Why is PMLN govt hiding 'constitutional amendment draft' from everyone? Fawad Chaudhry Told

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00:00First of all, let's talk about the I.N.I.C.O.U.R.T.

00:02Mr. Fawad, all stakeholders are on board on the I.N.I.C.O.U.R.T.

00:05except for Mr. Tariq-e-Insaaf.

00:07How will they stop them?

00:09Because the government has somehow convinced Mr. Maulana.

00:12Mr. Emil Wali is also with them.

00:14People's Party, PMLN are openly with them.

00:16So, what will the PTI do to stop the I.N.I.C.O.U.R.T.?

00:19Look, Maria, first of all,

00:21this I.N.I.C.O.U.R.T. or the rest of the reforms,

00:24neither you have seen it, nor have I seen it,

00:26nor has Mustafa seen it.

00:28We only know that there were 3-4 drafts.

00:31And Azam Nazeer Tariq-e-Insaaf said on one draft,

00:35that I have got this.

00:37Although, obviously, the law minister drafts,

00:40but luckily, even the law minister does not know.

00:42Even Mr. Darg has not seen this draft.

00:44Mr. Darg has not seen the draft.

00:46So, this draft, whoever has made it,

00:48when they show it,

00:50obviously, there can be a lot of detail on it.

00:52But look, the concept of the Constitutional Court,

00:56first of all, in these common law countries,

00:58apart from South Africa,

01:00in any other country,

01:02where there is an adversarial system,

01:04or where the British system,

01:06to make it easier to understand,

01:08there is no Constitutional Court.

01:10The reason for that is, for example,

01:12look, your salary has been taxed.

01:14Now, I am challenging that tax,

01:16by going to the Supreme Court.

01:18Now, that statute is also an issue,

01:20but your fundamental rights are also an issue.

01:22So, where will I go?

01:24The most horrifying thing in this,

01:26is the power of Article 199.

01:28All the lawyers,

01:30we go and tell them,

01:32to file a writ.

01:34The writ is practically finished.

01:36Because you have added two or three things.

01:38First, you said, if there is a national security issue,

01:40then the writ is already over.

01:42Then you said that the lawyers,

01:44the judges,

01:46we will review them every year,

01:48that too on the source report.

01:50And on the source report,

01:52you can sell the house,

01:54or outside the province.

01:56You can't even sell the SHO in Punjab or Sindh,

01:58outside the province.

02:00So, the practice of the lawyers,

02:02is practically finished.

02:04The third thing is,

02:06even if you bring an amendment,

02:08you are saying,

02:10the biggest argument of the government,

02:12is that these cases,

02:14are stuck in the hands of common people.

02:16Right.

02:18Right now, there are 57,000 cases,

02:20pending in the Supreme Court.

02:22And there are 46,40,000 cases,

02:24pending in the lower courts.

02:26So, for the 46,40,000 cases,

02:28which are pending,

02:30you are not doing anything.

02:32For the 57,000 cases,

02:34and secondly,

02:36in the Constitutional Court,

02:38the decision of the Supreme Court is final.

02:40Now, every case,

02:42which the Supreme Court will decide,

02:44will also go to the Constitutional Court.

02:46So, it's a total mess-up.

02:48There are two courts,

02:50and they keep giving stays against each other.

02:52They keep giving decisions against each other.

02:54I am talking to a law expert.

02:56So, there is a constitutional crisis there as well.

02:58Will this happen in North Korea?

03:00Most probably.

03:02Our model is North Korea.

03:04North Korea has a constitution.

03:06Kim Il Sung.

03:08Kim Constitution.

03:10But the situation is,

03:12as Bilawal said yesterday,

03:14all these constitutional cases,

03:16they take a lot of time from the courts.

03:18And the cases of the common people,

03:20they give very little time.

03:22And this is true to some extent.

03:24For the past two and a half years,

03:26the crises that the politicians

03:28themselves have to solve,

03:30they don't do it.

03:32The case goes to the courts.

03:34Take the Punjab elections for example.

03:36There is still an election.

03:38There is no election.

03:40There are special sessions.

03:42Where is this constitutional crisis

03:44coming to them?

03:46This is true to some extent.

03:48For the past three or four years,

03:50I will go back even further.

03:52From the time of Saqib Nisar,

03:54from the time of Iftikhar Chaudhary,

03:56the tradition that we have,

03:58has made politics so complicated.

04:00People's grievances have increased so much.

04:02Instead of the Supreme Court

04:04being the institution

04:06where people go for the resolution

04:08of their problems,

04:10or political parties go for the resolution

04:12of their problems,

04:14biased decisions have been made there.

04:16So our country has a complete history

04:18in this regard.

04:20And now politics has reached the stage

04:22where political parties

04:24refuse to accept each other's existence.

04:26If you look at Tehreek-e-Insaf,

04:28they do not consider the Muslim League Noon

04:30and the People's Party

04:32as legitimate stakeholders in this system.

04:34They say we don't want to talk to them.

04:36The work of the governments

04:38in the Jamaat-e-Hakumat is

04:40to create an atmosphere

04:42and reduce political tensions.

04:44The Jamaat-e-Hakumat

04:46is persecuting us to such an extent.

04:48What has happened

04:50to political workers

04:52in the last 2.5-3 years,

04:54I think we used to think

04:56that this time has passed from Pakistan

04:58and it will not happen again.

05:00But we have started

05:02to deteriorate so much

05:04that now

05:06Fawad is sitting with us

05:08and there are other people

05:10with him.

05:12So we have made politics

05:14meaningless.

05:16The effect of this

05:18is not

05:20good for

05:22national unity.

05:24Politics

05:26has become meaningless.

05:28People do not understand

05:30that the Parliament is the solution to our problems.

05:32People do not understand

05:34that political parties can solve our problems.

05:36People are disappointed.

05:38We are not ready

05:40to solve our problems.

05:44The failures of politicians

05:46are there in their place.

05:48But you cannot deny

05:50that the establishment

05:52has an oversized role in politics.

05:54It is a country of 25 crore people.

05:56The aspirations of the personalities

05:58and their self-interests

06:00have reached

06:02their peak

06:04on both the constitution

06:06and the national system.

06:08Fawad has explained

06:10the constitutional amendment

06:12very well.

06:14But the bottom line

06:16is that Qazi Faiz Issa

06:18is being tried to retain.

06:20This is the reality.

06:22The whole world is aware of this.

06:24To increase the age

06:26and to bring him

06:28to the constitutional court

06:30is a very...

06:32I think Maulana

06:34has strong grievances

06:36that this should not happen.

06:38When he negotiates,

06:40this should not happen.

06:42I think Bilawal and Maulana

06:44should ditch Faiz Issa.

06:46This is Bilawal's wish.

06:48Bilawal's speech

06:50and Maulana's speech

06:52have reached a consensus.

06:54I think Faiz Issa

06:56is being casual.

Why is PMLN govt hiding 'constitutional amendment draft' from everyone? Fawad Chaudhry Told

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