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Why was Raouf Hassan suddenly removed from his party position? | Rauf Hassan Reveals
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00:00News is coming from the jail that Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaab wants the next 20 days to be the last 10 overs.
00:05So the heat of the road should be increased as much as possible.
00:08Yesterday, on 2nd October, in some cities, they have decided that there should be protest rallies.
00:14On 4th October, on D-Chowk. On 5th October, on Minar-e-Pakistan.
00:17But the news is that Ali bin Ghandapur has met today.
00:20Some people say that he has gone with a message that this 4th October D-Chowk issue should not be done.
00:26Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaab, what is your intention in the coming days?
00:29Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaab and the establishment issue, what is it really?
00:32Our guest today is also related to that.
00:34And his quick background is that Mr. Rauf Hassan was the Secretary-General of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaab.
00:39He participated in our program the other day.
00:41And when we asked him what is the issue of the conversation between Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaab and the army?
00:46Remember, Mr. Imran Khan has stated on 9th and 10th September that we do not want to talk to the establishment.
00:50This is a different thing that the establishment has said before that we do not want to talk to them.
00:53But Mr. Khan said that we will not talk to the establishment about our policy.
00:57But Mr. Rauf Hassan said in our program that he was satisfied yesterday and he is satisfied today.
01:00We should talk.
01:01What exactly did he say?
01:02First of all, look at this.
01:26I beg to disagree with the latter part.
01:46I will not say that this is not their policy at all.
01:49They have engaged with the PTI.
01:51So why should I expect them to engage again?
01:55When did they engage?
02:09He is saying that you should not hold the 22nd Jalsa in Islamabad because the religious communities are coming.
02:13Are you asking them to engage?
02:24After this statement, there was a storm.
02:26After this statement, Mr. Rauf Hassan himself on social media, his party,
02:29there is no guide, but some people criticized that what is he saying?
02:34Mr. Khan is saying that there is nothing like this and you are saying that we should talk.
02:38And a strange thing happened.
02:40There was a surprise on this that two notifications came.
02:44One notification came that Mr. Rauf is no longer the Secretary-General.
02:47Sheikh Waqas Akram is now the Secretary-General.
02:49And the second thing is that Mr. Rauf has been made the head of the party's think tank policy.
02:54Mr. Khwaja Asif himself said that this is their way and they play good cop, bad cop.
02:59He also gave the same impression that this statement is the reason for the deprivation.
03:03And in many places, the impression has been made that the statement is the reason for the deprivation.
03:06Mr. Khwaja Asif said this.
03:19He was removed from the post of Secretary-General.
03:39Now this is the situation.
03:41We have given some trouble to Mr. Rauf Hassan.
03:43He is with us in our program.
03:45So let's ask him what the party intends to do in the coming days.
03:49Ask him about his own case that whether this statement was the reason for his deprivation.
03:54Or what happened? How did it happen? Why did it happen?
03:56What is the party policy today?
03:58What is his opinion?
04:00Should we talk or not?
04:01Let's do all this.
04:03Of course, he is the head of the policy think tank of Pakistan Telecom.
04:07Mr. Rauf Hassan.
04:09Huzoor, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
04:10Walaikum Assalam.
04:12Thank you for inviting me.
04:14Thank you very much for giving me time.
04:16First of all, sir, please tell us about this.
04:18You have always been very kind.
04:19You give us time.
04:20Last time when you gave us time, you were the Secretary-General of the party.
04:24And you gave a statement that you agreed to talk to the establishment.
04:27You agreed yesterday, you agreed today.
04:29You were ready yesterday, you are ready today.
04:31We should talk.
04:32And that entire statement.
04:33And two days later, a series of events took place.
04:35Two days later, your position was changed.
04:37The impression was made.
04:38In fact, it was said by Mr. Khwaja Asif.
04:40And many people said that this statement that you gave,
04:43in which you expressed your consent to talk to the establishment,
04:46that became the reason for your dismissal from your post.
04:49What do you have to say in this regard, sir?
04:53Wasim, I will very categorically deny this.
04:56This has been happening to me for the past two or three weeks.
05:00And its decision, it had no connection with my statement in any way.
05:09You will see that yesterday I was sitting here with Kashif Abbasi of ARY.
05:14Even then I said the same thing, which I have always said.
05:18Dialogue is an essential component of reconciliation.
05:23And you cannot completely take the dialogue out.
05:26Yes, absolutely.
05:27The reasons for Mr. Khan's stance are very credible.
05:31Because the way the word deceit is being used,
05:36perhaps in those circumstances,
05:38the continuation of dialogue or the continuation of connectivity
05:42may not be possible so easily.
05:45But in any case, I have my own faith, my own think tank.
05:48Because this is what I do.
05:49We get dialogues done, infrastate.
05:51So that's why I have a very deep-rooted conviction
05:54that ultimately you have to sit at the table.
05:57You see, here the camel sits crookedly.
06:00It will move forward by keeping it in front.
06:03So it was just a coincidence that after a few days of this statement,
06:07your position has changed.
06:09Even though, in your opinion, its decision had already been made?
06:12No, I am not talking about the decision.
06:15I am saying that since this was being discussed,
06:17the party has to move forward.
06:19You see, in such a big political party, changes keep happening.
06:23You have seen, the general has also changed.
06:26So to move forward, different permutations and combinations are put forward.
06:32And since the policy matter of the party,
06:35for a long time it was being discussed
06:37that we should have a think tank
06:39that should devise policy matters,
06:42formulate them, do comparative evaluation.
06:45And since this is my field,
06:47the leadership thought it appropriate that I should head it,
06:50then it will be better.
06:51So this is a transition, and I am very comfortable in this new position.
06:55And in any case,
06:58this has nothing to do with my statement.

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