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Is Celtic v Aberdeen the biggest game of the season? With both teams on identical points, anticipation for this match has reached a fever pitch. The stakes couldn’t be higher as Aberdeen look to continue their winning ways against one of the toughest opponents in Scottish football.  Support PLZ Soccer: https://bit.ly/PLZKickstarter Subscribe Now: ‪@PLZSoccer‬   Join us on The Football Show as we break down the biggest stories in Scottish football this week. We pay tribute to Johan Neeskens, explore Aberdeen's thrilling 3-2 win over Hearts, and debate whether Celtic's tactics in the Champions League need to change for away fixtures. We also discuss Rangers' 2-0 victory against St Johnstone, the impact of Ianis Hagi's red card, and whether Aberdeen can split the Old Firm this season. Plus, we cover the latest Scottish football news, Dundee's dramatic 3-2 defeat to Kilmarnock, and much more. Don't miss out!  Also on The Football Show:  The Football Show Highlights:  00:00:00 Intro - The Football Show 00:00:46 Johan Neeskens' death and tribute 00:02:16 Aberdeen FC away strip competition 00:03:33 Aberdeen 3-2 Hearts 00:11:35 Ross County 1-2 Celtic  00:20:16 Celtic away fixtures in the Champions League 00:25:11 Drumchapel United fundraiser dinner  00:26:13 Rangers 2-0 St Johnstone  00:30:33 Hagi sent off against St Johnstone 00:32:55 Will Aberdeen split the Old Firm? 00:34:56 Latest Scottish football news 00:37:29 Dundee 2-3 Kilmarnock 00:42:04 Hibs 1-2 Motherwell 00:46:47 St Mirren 0-1 Dundee United 00:48:50 Scotland Nations League fixtures 00:50:51 WIll Erik ten Hag be sacked as Man United manager? 00:53:24 Ange Postecoglou Brighton post-match interview 00:55:10 Aberdeen FC competition 00:56:10 Edinburgh United FC

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00:00:00Welcome to the football show on PLZ Soccer's YouTube channel. I'm Peter

00:00:06Martin, Alan Ruff and Tamek Manas are here with me. Don't forget to hit the

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00:00:22you'll get all the breaking news at your fingertips. So, so much to talk about on

00:00:27the show. The Dons, lucky 13 and they're ready for the battle in the West. Celtic

00:00:33leave it late up at Dingwall but managed to fight back to win against Ross County.

00:00:37There's a Chernie double for Rangers and big worries in the capital for Hearts

00:00:42and Hibs. Just a few of the topics we will be talking about but we'll start

00:00:47with a little bit of sad news. One of the legends of Ajax and Barcelona, Johan

00:00:52Neskens has sadly passed away at the age of 73 and you've encountered him on

00:00:59more than a few occasions, Ruffy. Yeah, I encountered him way back. Scotland under-18

00:01:05team versus Holland under-18 team in a UEFA tournament at Ibrox. The beaters

00:01:12won nothing in the semi-final and I think he scored. They had a wide range of

00:01:18young players coming up. Obviously him, Johnny Rape, the Van der Kerk boys and

00:01:23everything but no absolute legend in Holland. There's no doubt about that and then he went on to

00:01:28play in the national team as well. Yeah and of course you would have played

00:01:30against them in 78. Yeah, we'll have to talk about that. Yeah, well you won. Yeah, I know but I think he scored as well.

00:01:38He did score that game if I dare. No, it was a mainstay you know in the Dutch team. They're a really, really good Dutch team

00:01:47and they got the final that year. So no, no, I think in Holland he'll be very sadly missed.

00:01:52Johan Neskens who sadly passed away at the age of 73 and he really had a golden

00:02:00era in the colours of Ajax winning three European Cups and two Super Cups and of

00:02:07course with Barcelona he got the Cup Winners Cup and the Copa del Rey. He

00:02:10actually went on to play for the New York Cosmos as well. Lots to talk about

00:02:15before we get into that. Well, Aberdeen seem to be the club of the moment so we

00:02:20thought well why not give some Aberdeen fans the chance to indulge and win in

00:02:25our competition. Here at PLZ Soccer we're giving away this Aberdeen away

00:02:31strip. All you've got to do is leave the answer to this question in the comment

00:02:35section below. What was the last year Aberdeen won the Premier League title?

00:02:39Good luck.

00:02:42There you have it. Ruffey just talking about Aberdeen.

00:02:45I saw a Facebook photo and the dressing room with all the players in there and the

00:02:50underneath bit was that they had maybe they qualified for beating Ipswich over

00:02:54a two-leg thing and I thought it was a UEFA Cup but I didn't know how far they'd gone.

00:02:58They won the Cup Winners Cup in 1983. They had actually played against Liverpool in

00:03:05the European Cup and got thumped but they played against Ipswich and knocked them out.

00:03:11Bobby Robson's Ipswich side and a good side it was too. So that's a good

00:03:16competition chance to win a nice away strip. These away strips are becoming

00:03:20ever more popular Tom. That could be worth a fortune when Aberdeen win the league at the end of the season.

00:03:25Could be a collector's item. Well, absolutely. Don't knock it because there will be a few people on here

00:03:29absolutely to give you pelters on this. Ruffey, we're going to start, might as well start

00:03:33with Aberdeen. I think it's only fair. They get a goal after two minutes. They brought

00:03:37Neil Simpson on at the start with the Cup Winners Cup. Everybody paying tribute to Simi

00:03:43and then from there Keskinen gives them the perfect start. Yeah, everything's going well

00:03:48just now. They're getting wee breaks here and there. Obviously the first goal was a

00:03:52bit of a deflection but you'll take it after that. I thought they looked a wee bit vulnerable

00:03:57at the back, a wee bit suspect and hearts come back into the game but at the end of

00:04:01the day, when you're winning games like that and you're on a run like that, you get the

00:04:06breaks and you get the things that are going for you. Obviously the winning goal as well.

00:04:11You take everything that's going. That's where it boils down to. You take all these lucky

00:04:15breaks early on. Well, as far as the Aberdeen boss is concerned, Jimmy Tolleen, that's 13.

00:04:22The club record for Aberdeen is 15 wins in a row and even when they were behind, I think

00:04:28the Dons manager paid tribute to the attitude of the players and the fans. Yeah, because

00:04:33it was difficult today. Hearts did a lot of good things but still you see some mistakes

00:04:39that usually don't happen but still we stay together as a team and take the extra run

00:04:45in the end and some extra tackles, win some more duels when we have to, to get inside

00:04:51the game again and then we start creating chances again. We don't create so much in

00:04:55some parts but then we're arriving much, much better in the end of the game in some

00:04:59areas and also how we attack the box and it was nice to see. You can see the fire in the

00:05:06eyes of the players and how they push each other and really compete together with the

00:05:11fans on Petodri today because I think everybody can feel the atmosphere today. It was something

00:05:16extra and it was amazing actually.

00:05:19Yeah, the buzz around Petodri is unbelievable but let's be honest about it Tam, great credit

00:05:26to Aberdeen for the way they went about their business but Hearts had a number of chances

00:05:31to actually finish them off. Yeah they did, I don't think it was probably Aberdeen's best

00:05:36performance of the season but a encouraging sign if you're not playing particularly well

00:05:40and you're still winning games. I thought Hearts would go up and give them a good game

00:05:44but obviously the win during the weeks really gave Hearts a boost. They're still looking

00:05:48for a manager and they went to and up with a fantastic goal from Blair Spittle and you

00:05:53thought Aberdeen's bubble was going to burst but you've got to give Aberdeen credit. Got

00:05:56the equaliser straight away, the red card helped. I think once Hearts got the man sent

00:06:00off it was trying to hang on for a draw and Aberdeen get the late goal but 13 wins in

00:06:06a draw is some start of the season for Aberdeen. I said it a couple of weeks ago that Aberdeen

00:06:11had third place tied up, I think they have now, I think they're so far ahead of Hearts

00:06:15and Hibs that third place is tied up and they'll be looking to target second place. They've

00:06:20got a big October coming up, obviously they've got Celtic away I think the next game which

00:06:24is going to tell you everything about this Aberdeen team. If they can go down to Parkhead

00:06:28and get even a point, the Aberdeen fans will start to get really excited but the next few

00:06:34games are going to tell you what this Aberdeen side is all about. You think they could split

00:06:39the Old Firm? I'm not so sure if they could split the Old Firm Peter but I think if they

00:06:43come out in October still with that gap over Rangers and Rangers have got European games

00:06:47then you never know but if they go down to Celtic and they get a heavy defeat off of

00:06:52Celtic then you'd think maybe not, maybe they have had quite a favourable run but if they

00:06:58go down to Celtic and pick something up Peter I think they'll have the confidence to go

00:07:01and try and split the Old Firm. That's what everybody is talking about here at the moment

00:07:07is can they go to the West which Fergie and his team managed to do on more than a few

00:07:13occasions Ruffey, can this Aberdeen side. You look at it, Nicky Devlin has been called

00:07:19up for the Scotland squad, he chips in with a vital goal as well. I mean Palaversa was

00:07:24a £7m player at one point, they've got him, he's chipped in with a goal as well. They've

00:07:29got players that can produce something but is it enough against the Celtic side? Well

00:07:34in days gone by everybody thought it was enough and then all of a sudden they come down to

00:07:38Parkhead or they come down to Ibrox and they get turned over. So they'll have to do something

00:07:44they haven't done before, I think it was the three or four seasons when they were up there

00:07:47with Celtic and everybody was beginning to talk about it again and then they collapsed

00:07:52over Christmas and New Year and that challenge went out the window but as it stands just

00:07:57now these are the important games. I said a couple of weeks ago the Aberdeen Rangers

00:08:02game up at Pittodrie would be a sort of an eye-opener of where they actually are. Obviously

00:08:09the Celtic game will be where they are as well but I think if Rangers were to go up

00:08:13to Pittodrie and they were to beat Rangers then people would start saying well maybe

00:08:18we can split the whole thing. There's quite a few people on thinking we're indulging in

00:08:23some kind of patronising. There's no patronising, it's quite simply they've won 13 games on

00:08:29the draw. It's up to Aberdeen to write the narrative. We can only look at the games and

00:08:35the way they're playing. Ian Noble says lots of talent at Don's, quite a few people are

00:08:41complimenting him on the way they played and of course Michael Taylor says the boys keep

00:08:46working tirelessly right to the final whistle. Credit to Jimmy and the coaching staff and

00:08:51most importantly the players on the park and Aurora says what a fantastic start to the

00:08:59season. Third place is the target, all the talk about second is media talk. Well at the

00:09:04end of the day the only time that will gather pace, Ruffey, on this show is if indeed suddenly

00:09:12they start going to the west, getting a point against Celtic or beating Rangers up at Pittodrie

00:09:18that's when you actually get to the point where you say well wait a minute there's a gap here.

00:09:22Yeah I mean fans being fans, they have to believe it as well. If you were to go down to Park

00:09:28Eden and get a draw and then beat Rangers up at Pittodrie, fans being fans will say well this is

00:09:33going to be our glory year but they have to maintain it for the whole season. As I said

00:09:38I thought at the weekend things went for them and obviously the deflection over

00:09:43Craig Brown and even the third goal, the boy has a swipe at it and misses it.

00:09:48It falls right to the boy, the wee things you take them while they're there because sometimes

00:09:53there are clubs at this precise moment in time, we'll be talking later on, are they getting their

00:09:57breaks? Yeah before everybody canes you, Craig Brown wasn't playing in goal, it was Craig Gordon.

00:10:01Sorry Craig Gordon. Yeah I knew that, I could see him all over, he was absolutely just waiting to

00:10:06batter you over the head Ruffey with it but Craig Gordon you're absolutely right. Listen

00:10:10just on a wee flip side to that, Hearts, still seems to be, I mean lots of jambos that I was

00:10:16talking to yesterday are saying who's the manager? I think they've been waiting for the break Peter,

00:10:22I think they've left it to Liam Fox and the staff to get them to the international break.

00:10:27We've obviously got a great result in Europe, we're sitting bottom of the league, I don't think

00:10:31anybody would be panicking just yet but they're in a terrible position, I think they've picked up

00:10:35two points going into October so it's a dreadful start for Hearts. I think the performance obviously

00:10:42at the weekend was a lot more encouraging, I think they've got a lot of good players at Hearts, I

00:10:45don't think they'll be anywhere near the bottom two but you're right there's not been much coming

00:10:49out of Tyne Castle at all from Andrew McKinley or the board or anyone in terms of a manager,

00:10:55so obviously things are getting done behind the scenes and I think they will be a manager

00:11:00during the break, I think they will appoint someone. I think he established that if it is,

00:11:03it won't be a Scottish person, I think Andrew McKinley is already on record as saying that.

00:11:07Yeah, I think that they'll be scouring Europe, they'll be scouring Scandinavia, they'll look at

00:11:10Jimmy Tallinn who's come in and been fantastic, they'll be looking at that market, they'll be

00:11:14looking at maybe other leagues in Europe and looking for someone who fits the criteria in

00:11:19terms of the way the team plays, results, playing young players, selling players on,

00:11:24there'll be a lot of criteria going into the black box thing that Bloom's got so

00:11:31I think they will appoint someone in the next week or two Peter before the next game.

00:11:34Okay, Ross County won Celtic 2, yet again Celtic show their fighting qualities, this time coming

00:11:42back against Ross County, Hale scoring from the penalty after missing the first one, got a second

00:11:48chance to retake it after it was deemed that Schmeichel had actually come off his line on this

00:11:54one. This is what Brendan Rodgers had to say on the game and the 2-1 victory, if you look over

00:12:00the course of this week we've had thousands of fans turn up in Dortmund, they've seen what they've

00:12:04seen which wasn't great but they still give us a great support at the end of the game, now they've

00:12:08come up here for a 12pm kick-off so the very least you can do is run your heart out right till the

00:12:14end and that's what this club is about, it's the fabric of the club, you keep going until the end,

00:12:19well they certainly did that, Johnston, don't think he knew too much about it, stuck his hip out,

00:12:24got the goal and then Kuhn's finish was a touch of class, Ruffey. Yes, it certainly was,

00:12:30Johnston did no end about that and I think it gave Celtic a wee lifeline to kick on for the

00:12:35rest of it, I think Ross County were trying to see the game out but Kuhn reminds me of,

00:12:41and I hope I get this player right, the French player always cutting in his left-hand side.

00:12:45Craig Brown? No, no Craig Brown.

00:12:48I'll do him, Ribery, Ribery you always used to say don't let him cut inside,

00:12:55because it's the only place he's going to go, he's going to cut inside and he's going to curl

00:12:57it with his left foot and that's what Kuhn's like as well, you know, don't let him cut inside,

00:13:02you know, push him down the side but no, the boy never got near him and you have to say it was a

00:13:07wonderful finish but you have to, I really, Brendan Rodgers thanking the fans, quite rightly so but

00:13:15they got away with one at the weekend, I thought Ross County were superb in the discipline that

00:13:20they set out to frustrate Celtic, now I know it's not the same as the Dortmund game but it was a

00:13:24lesson that if you… How is it not the same? Well, it's a different team that they're playing,

00:13:30the Dortmund team but what I'm saying Ross County… Well the disparity between Dortmund

00:13:33and Celtic is not as great as the disparity between Celtic and Ross County. No? Absolutely

00:13:40not, Ross County's wage bill in comparison to Celtic is huge. That's the point I'm making.

00:13:46But the point here is, Ruffey, which I'm asking you, is Don Cowie decided we can't go toe-to-toe

00:13:51with them, we're going to decide how can we try and nick a result. Yeah, that's the point I was

00:13:56trying to make but you've obviously made it a lot clearer than what I was making.

00:14:01They did, they went out and they showed that you can, if disciplined and you get players

00:14:07throwing themselves in front of shots and everything, get a wee break here and there,

00:14:11that you can get results against teams who have got much, much more money than you.

00:14:17So, the point is I'm not saying the defeat's what Brendan Rodgers said about the Dortmund game but

00:14:26I think everybody to a man thinks that he has to change but he's not going to change.

00:14:31Well, the point I think that we are discussing here ad nauseum with regards to Brendan Rodgers,

00:14:38nobody's debating the fact that he's a good coach but as a good coach, I think you have to,

00:14:44as he makes players better players, which you have to give him credit for and as he analyses

00:14:51the team and orchestrates the way they're playing football, which is good football to watch,

00:14:56he's also a coach that has to satisfy the demands of Celtic fans. He's already mentioned it there,

00:15:03Celtic fans have paid a lot of money to go to Dortmund and Celtic fans have played with a lot

00:15:07of money and they head off really, really early to get up to Dingwall. He's created this small

00:15:13pocket of people and I argue with more than a few of them, that when we get them on the message

00:15:19board, Tam, he's created this illusion and narrative that he's going to play this way

00:15:28and if you get 7-1 and you get humped and you spend a lot of money going to Germany,

00:15:35then it's because they're able to outspend us and I'm not going to change the way I play.

00:15:42I stick by what I say on this, if you are a coach who wants to become a great coach,

00:15:49you have to work out ways to beat an opponent that is favourite, that is better than you and

00:15:55sometimes you have to go against the way you would normally want to play football. That's what great

00:16:01coaches do. Yes, that's been the question since the game finished, Peter. There's been a lot of

00:16:08talk about it, that Brendan should have sat in a little bit, but a little more pragmatic in terms

00:16:14of defensive shape and maybe played in the counter-attack. I get all that and I agree with

00:16:19it. I think if he's going to go to Atalanta and get a positive result, he has to sit in and play

00:16:24in the counter-attack. He cannot play 4-3-3 and go in high and press them like they've done with

00:16:28Dortmund because they'll get picked off, they're playing against a better team. Whilst I do agree

00:16:34that's what he should do, Ruffey mentioned it, he's not going to change. I think he's seen

00:16:38Ange Postekoglou yesterday, 2-0 up. You think to yourself, 2-0 up, maybe go a wee bit more than

00:16:44that. Went for the third goal and got beat and that's probably why Ange maybe won't get to the

00:16:49very, very highest level because he doesn't adapt. But Brendan, for me, has to go and adapt in the

00:16:55Champions League when he's playing against better opposition. At home, fine, go and have a go,

00:16:58you're at home. Away from home against Atalanta, Dortmund, PSG, teams like that, you cannot be

00:17:05open and expansive like you are here in Scottish football. Ross County nearly got a result,

00:17:09they were 15 minutes away from it. The one that the boy chipped at 1-0, I think that was a good

00:17:14chance for Hale. If that goes in at 2-0, I don't think Celtic would have come back and won the

00:17:19game. I think at 2-0, I think they'd maybe come back and get a draw. Whilst it was 1-0, you just

00:17:25thought if Celtic get a goal here with 10-15 to go, they'll go and win the game at 1-0. I agree

00:17:29with Ruffey, I thought Celtic were really, really poor in the first half. Second half, they dominated

00:17:33the game, but they got the goal at the right time to go and push on and get the winner.

00:17:37And the other aspect of it, which again, managers have to do, is he has to basically bring on four

00:17:44big-name players to try and get them that result. Yeah, and that's the strength and depth that Celtic

00:17:49have got. He's probably looking at the team for the first half, even start of the second half,

00:17:54they didn't really come firing out and then he makes three, four changes. You can see the

00:17:58strength and depth of the players coming on. They're just as good as the ones going off.

00:18:02There's serious competition for places. I thought Engles had a poor game and I thought Luke

00:18:07McCown came on and gave Celtic a little spark. So, you've got serious competition in midfield,

00:18:12you've got Adam Ida coming off and Kyogo coming on and Celtic going to win the game, but

00:18:17that's probably the worst performance I've had this season, apart from the Dortmund game.

00:18:20Domestically, that's the worst I've played Celtic, but Celtic still won.

00:18:25One of the wee worst things that's happened to all the other teams

00:18:29is changing the three substitutes to five. Yeah, it suits the bigger teams, bigger squads,

00:18:34big teams. It suits the big squads with the big players who can throw the five on and it's

00:18:40obviously helping them, but it's not helping the others. Yeah, what did you make of the penalty?

00:18:45Oh, he's off the line, he comes off the line. Yeah. It has to be a retake. Yeah. I think,

00:18:49the matter of time, we were playing on before anybody was. You were waiting on somebody

00:18:55shouting somebody's ear, but they were still playing away and it happened, but it was the

00:18:59right decision. Again, scales his hands out there. It's not something I like, but to get a free hit

00:19:06at a goal for that is a soft one for me. Yeah, okay. Don Cowie, no surprise, well proud of his

00:19:14team. Yeah, disappointed for them in terms of the effort that they put in. Again, keeping a

00:19:22top-quality side, relatively quiet in terms of real goal-scoring opportunities. I said beforehand

00:19:30it was about being compact, concentration levels and I've seen an abundance from the group.

00:19:38And then for me, they score a goal which is never a foul in the middle of pitch.

00:19:43Yeah, quite a lot of people have their comments on this one. Of course, Ross County played well.

00:19:51I think quite a few people pointing out nearly got the result is not getting the result. Absolutely,

00:19:57we take that on the chin. That's exactly the obvious thing to say. 15 minutes he stuck to his

00:20:04guns. The argument here is, did he want to go toe-to-toe with Celtic? If you go toe-to-toe

00:20:11with them, they just pick you off and give you an absolute hammering the way Celtic were hammered.

00:20:15Brian, who is Mr Angry, he says, Peter, why don't you apply for the hearts job? You seem to know a

00:20:20lot about tactics, formations, please stick to the day job. Well, the day job, Brian, is giving your

00:20:25opinion. Some you like, some you don't. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out quite simply

00:20:31that a lot of Celtic fans spend a lot of money, don't want to go right across Europe and get

00:20:36absolutely battered 7-1. And I know a lot of Celtic fans that are like that. There's ways of losing,

00:20:42Peter. I think there's ways of losing games. I think when you look at over the last four or five

00:20:47campaigns in Europe that Brendan's been involved in, there's been one doing every time away from

00:20:52home. If you go away and you stay in the game for an hour and you maybe lose a goal, a late goal,

00:20:58maybe lose 2-0, then fine, you're always in the game. But if you go and you open up like Dortmund,

00:21:02the game's done after 25 minutes. And all these supporters that have spent all their money,

00:21:0725 minutes, the game's finished. So I think he's got to be more pragmatic. Or maybe the new format

00:21:13he's thinking he'll sell doesn't matter. We'll win more games at home and we'll maybe pick up a

00:21:18point away from Zagreb. And I think that's what we'll probably do. I think you're right because

00:21:21Dermot Desmond was interviewed yesterday, I think at the Dunhill Links Championship. And he said

00:21:28he's happy with what Celtic are doing, delighted with what Brendan is doing. And over and above

00:21:35that he reckons get a couple of more wins at home and then nick maybe one or two points away

00:21:40from home and the job's done. And I think, Ruffey, so people don't lose sight of it and we're in

00:21:48social media land now, people lose context of any argument, is quite simply that if they get

00:21:55through this by winning their home games, as Tam mentioned, that's job done for Brendan.

00:22:01You know, you can only analyse the other aspects of it is, do you want a doing in certain games?

00:22:07And I don't think Celtic fans want to see, after going to Germany, have a few scoops with your

00:22:12mates, get into the ground, get your photographs taken with a few Dortmund fans. But you don't want

00:22:17to see your team getting scalped. The other thing is if you're putting all your eggs in the one

00:22:21basket to win your home games, it puts pressure on you to win the home games. It means you've got

00:22:27to win them. And I agree, if Celtic had went away to Dortmund and put in a reasonable result and

00:22:34come away with a 3-1 defeat, we wouldn't be sitting here breaking it in and dismissing it,

00:22:43because 3-1 would have been a reasonable result if they'd put up a show. But if you go away to

00:22:48Atlanta, and I don't think for a minute Celtic will lose seven goals to Atlanta, but if it was

00:22:54a four or a five, then what you're doing is you're putting an element of fans, as you're saying,

00:23:00not happy. And you don't want to have your fans going away from home and spending money and being

00:23:04not happy, because that filters on to the other games that are coming up. And all of a sudden you

00:23:08get a home game and everybody's sitting there going, God, we need to win this. We need to win it.

00:23:13And the players know they've got to win it. So it just puts added pressure on you.

00:23:18Just before we move on to Rangers, Tam, nevertheless, great credit to both of them. Celtic

00:23:23and Aberdeen have suddenly given us a bit of real excitement in this first quarter.

00:23:29Yeah, both have won all their games. It's brilliant. I think it's, I spoke about it last week in the

00:23:33show, Peter. We want to see a more competitive league. We want to see Celtic and Rangers going

00:23:37to the hibs and hearts in Aberdeen. And you think they could drop points here. That hasn't been the

00:23:42case, particularly over the last couple of seasons with Celtic going away and just winning

00:23:47every week. I think there was a season that they went unbeaten. They scored over 100 goals.

00:23:52They absolutely romped the league. It wasn't competitive at all. So I think it's great to

00:23:57see Aberdeen. I hope Aberdeen are up there as long as possible. I don't know the last time

00:24:02someone out with the old firm split them. Is that a question? Who was the last time they finished in

00:24:06between Celtic and Rangers in the league? And if they do that, then they'll have a Champions League

00:24:12qualifier? I think it might have been Aberdeen. Yeah, I think it might have been Aberdeen.

00:24:20The 90s? No, I think when Rangers come back up, they wouldn't have come back up at full strength

00:24:27with the defending ability. I think it would have been... Derek McKinnison maybe second? Yeah,

00:24:31I think so. I'll check that, but I'm almost certain that's the situation.

00:24:35But the other thing I was going to say to you is,

00:24:38we need that. We need that competition. Obviously, we can't get the competition from Arsene Heves

00:24:42because they're trying to fight off relegation, Ruffey. So Tam's going to have a difficult...

00:24:46Oh, the columns. I can't wait. Is it Thursday? It's a difficult period. Which way it's going to go?

00:24:52Is it? The column. I'm tearing. Absolutely. I mean, to be fair to you, you give an opinion on

00:24:59here, but the erratic nature of you in that column is absolutely blisteringly funny.

00:25:04It's another pal in a sugarly. It's another manager pal in a sugarly. It depends which way...

00:25:10Well, I have to say, the Jonah... I was with him in Drumchapel the other night there, Ruffey.

00:25:18The junior side of Drumchapel, they took to him. They really enjoyed him. He was fantastic. At one

00:25:24point, he went down that well. I was waiting on him, holding his hands out as if he was the

00:25:29business. There's not many people we know do that, is there? No, absolutely not. Your man went

00:25:36down an absolute storm. There was more than a few people at Drumchapel United's dinner

00:25:43to raise funds for the club. They were great fun, weren't they, Tam? That was a great gig.

00:25:48We've seen a few ex-players. Nacho Novo, David Templeton. I think there's one more. I can't

00:25:54remember. Greg Wilde. Greg Wilde plays for them, but he wasn't there. Good set-up, Drumchapel United.

00:26:01Brilliant set-up. They were all really good lads and it was a lot of money raised for them,

00:26:07which was absolutely magnificent. Good luck to them. As far as the next game, Ruffey,

00:26:15Rangers 2 St John's 0. It's amazing how you can have one of those weeks when you feel

00:26:21the world and everybody's against you after you've missed an absolute sitter.

00:26:27Cherney will know all about that for Rangers. A week, they say, is a long time in politics.

00:26:32It can change in football because he's scored two lovely goals. His first one was a peach.

00:26:36Yes, it certainly was. He took it well. Nutmegged the boy and then curled it into the far corner.

00:26:42Yes, the boy's got ability. As a footballer, sometimes you've got to deal with those kinds of

00:26:47things. I think it was a week ago, he had a wee go at the supporters as well during one of the

00:26:52games. He's coming into a new environment and he's having to adapt. The demands of playing

00:26:58with Rangers and what the fans want. Obviously, it was a bad miss. There's no doubt about that.

00:27:03But to come back, it just shows you the character that he's got to go into the game and score two

00:27:08good goals. Yes, absolutely. I think the Rangers manager, Philippe Clement, emphasised the fact

00:27:15that he's had a tough week, but he's bounced back. From the first moment he came into this club,

00:27:20he's been working really hard for the team. He was really down after Thursday

00:27:27by missing that chance. He felt really responsible in that way because he knew it was a really

00:27:33important moment in the beginning of the game. If you can score, you have a totally different

00:27:39momentum of the game and it can be a different game then. He's experienced and he talked about

00:27:44that with me. It was a really open and good talk, but he didn't lose any of my confidence in that way.

00:27:54Yes, full marks to the boy. Sometimes, though, I don't get it. We understand the nature of social

00:28:01media and some people who come on who are just poisonous and negative and think it's okay to go

00:28:07on and batter a boy. Who goes on to social media to absolutely slaughter a boy for missing a set-up?

00:28:13Yes, I think he's had a tough week. I read that he deactivated his Instagram as well, so he's

00:28:18obviously been getting abuse from supporters, probably some of his own supporters as well,

00:28:23which is poor. But that's the culture and that's the world we live in today. I think that

00:28:29any athletes are fair game. You can get to them, you can tag them in things and people

00:28:38read stuff. It's hard to get away from it unless you just come off it altogether. A lot of

00:28:43football players want to be on Instagram and places like that for themselves. I think the two

00:28:49goals were excellent, Peter, I thought at the start of the season. I thought he looked a real player

00:28:53for Rangers. I think he's been poor the last few weeks, culminating in missing two great

00:28:58opportunities, one against Malmo away from home and the other night. For him to come in and score

00:29:04two goals will give him a lot of confidence. I think he looks like a confidence player. I think

00:29:09that's going to give him a massive lift. I don't think Rangers were great, I think they were better

00:29:14than St Johnson, but it took two real moments of quality to win the game. Rangers, as we've said

00:29:21so many times, they just need to keep winning. It doesn't matter how they play, they need to

00:29:25keep winning until that game in January against Celtic. I was right, Tam, I thought I was right.

00:29:29The last time a team split Celtic and Rangers was 2016-17. When Rangers returned to back up

00:29:37and Aberdeen finished second in 76 points, Celtic won it with 106 and Rangers were third with 67

00:29:45points. They have done it, but there was obviously the change in the finance available to them,

00:29:53Ruffey. Yes, but it's still that fans remember their years, that's not that too long.

00:30:00They managed to do it in 2017-18 as well, Ruffey. Not too long ago, no. That's why we keep hearing

00:30:06the Aberdeen fans, thinking of the tradition that the club's got, obviously we know they won

00:30:11the European Cup. Leagues have always been top three for a long, long, long time. Now I think

00:30:19it was 19,000 at that game at the weekend. It just shows you if you get a successful team like

00:30:23that at home, the whole Aberdeen will turn up and also other clubs are benefiting from their away

00:30:29fans when they go away because they go away in numbers as well. When we monitor players and we

00:30:34offer our opinion on them, I tell you, you couldn't console the boy Haji who's just come back

00:30:40and picks up a red card. It was a bad challenge, you have to say, Tam, but I felt sorry for him,

00:30:48not for the challenge on Kimpioka because it was a bad one, but what a time he's had.

00:30:54Yeah, obviously he's been playing with the B team, he's not been cited in the first team.

00:30:57They've come to an agreement, I think, with the club. They've maybe split the difference in terms

00:31:01of the money it was due to get, with one more appearance. He gets that appearance last night

00:31:06and I think it's just lack of game time, lack of sharpness. I think he's just went in to try and

00:31:09tackle. I've done that as a striker myself, you're not used to tackling and he just went in,

00:31:15it is a bad tackle, it's 100% a red card, but I don't think there's any intent to go and do him.

00:31:20He's got a red card, I think he's got a three-game ban now and I don't think he's eligible for

00:31:25Europe, so I think he's out for the next three games. So just getting himself back in and then

00:31:29he's going to miss the next three games is a disaster for him because the Rangers fans were

00:31:33excited about him coming back. They think that he can come in and make a real impact on the Rangers

00:31:38team and he's not going to be cited in the next two or three games. Are you one of those players

00:31:44who's gone through a kind of a, have you ever in your career had that kind of a week that

00:31:49Haji's had, you know, you just think everything's going against you? Yeah, I think you do. I think

00:31:54as a player, you know, sometimes you're flying high, you're scoring goals and everything's

00:31:58going well, but on other occasions, you know, you could get sent off, you could come back in,

00:32:03you could be missing chances, your confidence is low. I was in a similar situation, I remember

00:32:08when I was at Dundee when Alec Ray came in and he wanted rid of me and Lee Wilkie because

00:32:13it was financial reasons and then the team wasn't doing too well and I came back into the team,

00:32:18I think, in a Scottish Cup game and we managed to win it and I got myself back on the team, but

00:32:23listen, I think that he'll be fine. I think that he's in the shot window, you know, from now to the

00:32:28end of the season, Haji. I don't think long-term about Rangers, but it's disappointing for the

00:32:33Rangers supporters who I believe think he can come in and make a real impact on the team.

00:32:37Yeah, okay, Rangers get the win and there's no ground lost between themselves and of course

00:32:46Aberdeen and Celtic, they're still there within touching distance, it's a huge time, there's an

00:32:51international break to get things organised. Just out of curiosity, do you see this Aberdeen side

00:32:57coming to Glasgow and winning? No. No? Splitting Rangers and Celtic? If you ask me that question

00:33:04after Aberdeen versus Rangers at Pataudry, I would have a better idea, but they have to get

00:33:09through a couple of obstacles before that. If they were to beat Rangers at Pataudry,

00:33:15would you give us a definitive statement, one of those absolutely blistering lines? I'll give you

00:33:19it now, if they beat Rangers up at Pataudry quite comfortably, I would say, yeah, they've got a

00:33:23chance of splitting the Old 12. Yeah, okay, interesting stuff, Tam? Yeah, I think that,

00:33:28obviously, Pete, I think they'll get some tough games coming up, I think they'll get

00:33:31Redundant United as well, who are doing particularly well at the minute. I look at

00:33:38this Rangers team and I think it's a team that's in transition, I think it's a club that's in

00:33:42transition. I don't think Aberdeen will maybe get a better opportunity in the future to finish

00:33:49above Rangers than this season. They've got points on the board, the confidence is high,

00:33:54but that game at Pataudry is huge. Ruffey's right, if Aberdeen win that and they can go

00:33:58five or eight points ahead of Rangers, that's a big, big gap and they can go and split the

00:34:03Old Firm, but I think the 1st of November, 2nd of November is the time to say, well,

00:34:08Aberdeen split the Old Firm because they've got a tough month coming up. Yeah, absolutely, okay,

00:34:12that's the one that everybody's going to cane you for that line, the Dons fans absolutely hate it,

00:34:17although I'm a bit worried because our reporter, Kobe's up there and his report at the end of the

00:34:27Hearts game at the weekend, Ruffey, I thought he might have spontaneously combusted, he was just

00:34:32absolutely high as a kite trying to get the excitement over. Well, if you're an Aberdeen

00:34:40supporter of the season you had last year, you have every right to be as high as a kite just now

00:34:46because of the season you had last year, so you enjoy every minute of it. As I said, 19,000 at

00:34:51that game at the weekend shows you that the majority of Aberdeen are enjoying what they're

00:34:55seeing. Yeah, okay, let's go right now to the news. Hi there, I'm Kerry and here is your daily news

00:35:02update on Monday the 7th of October, brought to you by Arnold Clark. Dundee boss Tony Docherty

00:35:07says he takes full responsibility for his side's downfall on Saturday afternoon, but admits the

00:35:11game was decided on a moment he couldn't control. I will, I've got to say, I will accept responsibility

00:35:17absolutely for my team's capitulation at the end of it, I will accept that and I'll work on it and

00:35:22I'll try and make things better, but when there's things that you're not in control of and that

00:35:25pivotal moment in the game, then that's where the huge frustration comes in. Rangers manager

00:35:31Philippe Clement says he has no arguments with Yanis Hadji's red card against Johnston on Sunday

00:35:35evening and says the challenge was clumsy. There's no intensity in the tackle but it's more clumsy,

00:35:43clumsy challenge from a player who was tired at that moment. And Ange Bostacoglou says his side

00:35:50three to defeat on Sunday afternoon was one of the worst defeats he's faced as manager of the

00:35:54London side. I'd say that's probably the most disappointing loss I've had since I've been here

00:35:59in terms of the way we went about it and some non-exercises. For all the latest breaking

00:36:07headlines be sure to hit the like button and subscribe to PLZ Soccer's YouTube channel and

00:36:11don't forget to download our app which is available on Google Play and the App Store.

00:36:16Yeah, the one thing that's predominantly talked about throughout any programme, whether it's

00:36:22you know on radio or TV or indeed in the written press, is when a manager is going to get sacked

00:36:29and now it seems to be getting quicker and quicker when managers could get their jotters. Paul Brady

00:36:35says if Rangers don't finish second, Big Phil will get his jotters. So an interesting topic there

00:36:43and Bob says let's see where Rangers and Aberdeen are after 18 games played, both home and away,

00:36:49not a bad point. I have to agree with you on that. Bob also says Aberdeen deserve huge credit.

00:36:58So it's one of those situations where a lot of people are offering the credit that Aberdeen

00:37:04deserve, questioning Rangers and whether they'll be able to inflict pain on them at Petaudry as

00:37:11well. Big month that we all accept here coming up for them. Thanks for your comments as well. Don't

00:37:16forget, hit that subscribe button on PLZ Soccer's YouTube channel. Thank you to so many of you for

00:37:21the figures we're getting right across all our social media on Facebook and Twitter. You can

00:37:27like, share and follow and you can download the app as well. Dundee took him on at three

00:37:33and Tony Docherty was far from happy. You just heard from him there, he reckons the ref played

00:37:38a major part in their defeat. Absolutely devastated, devastated because it's another game and I genuinely

00:37:44feel our last three home games and it's alright me bleating on about this, we should take maximum

00:37:47points because in terms of levels of performance and when it's 11 v 11, I think we're showing a

00:37:52level of performance that should be picking up points but you know what, the reality is we're not.

00:37:57I'm hugely frustrated but I must focus on it. I don't think the game would have went that way

00:38:01at all. I thought it was a good game actually. I was really enjoying watching my team when it was

00:38:0611 v 11 and the referee made a decision that massively affected the game. Interesting point

00:38:11there from him. Do you agree with him, Tam? Yeah, I don't think it was a red card. I think it was a

00:38:16pivotal time in the game. Obviously the team capitulates in the last three or four minutes,

00:38:21no 2-1 up to lose 3-2 but it's a huge decision in the game and he's right, I think Dundee have

00:38:27been hard done by. I think Wille Collum phoned him a couple of weeks ago about a decision and

00:38:32apologised. It could have been another phone call today for that decision, for the second yellow

00:38:37card. It wasn't for me and it cost them points again but you've got to give Kamalek credit.

00:38:43Not easy to play against 10 men but they kept going to the end and a huge result for them.

00:38:47You know, they were looking at bottom of the league and going into the national break

00:38:52and a real downer. The young boy Bobby Wales, it's a brilliant bit of skill from him for the

00:38:57winner. The ball comes out the sky, traps it, takes the player on and puts it on a plate

00:39:02for the wee boy Anderson. So I think Derek will be delighted with that three points. It gets the

00:39:06monkey off their back, gets their first win of the season in the league. In Dundee, things are

00:39:10not going particularly well for them. They're not getting the rub of the green at the minute and

00:39:13they're on probably the worst run that Tony's been on. It's been great from the start for Tony but

00:39:19they're on a little bit of a sticky run at the minute but I'm sure they'll come out of it if

00:39:22they keep putting in good performances. To be fair, even Gary McKay-Steven chipped in with a

00:39:26wee bit of skill that created a goal. Yeah he did, you know when you get a goal and it's 2-1 and

00:39:32you've got the man advantage, the momentum's with you for the last 5-10 minutes of the game. You've

00:39:37got to throw on players in the forward areas and the ones that you threw on inflict in the game.

00:39:44But for me, the wee boy Cameron, he's got to hit that ball into row Z for the third goal. There's

00:39:52seconds to go and he tries to keep the ball in play and it gives us the command of possession

00:39:57of the ball. Just put it into the stand and deal with the throwing that's coming. You take the

00:40:02man management in the last bit of the game for a young player. But these are the pointers that

00:40:09people have to take into consideration. We're going to come to Motherwell in a second but

00:40:13quite simply when you go through that bad run, if you've got a sensible board that understands

00:40:20the longevity of the season, the nature of the team, that wee rub of the green, that little

00:40:26bit of luck to have. They're on a run now where they haven't won a game in six, four defeats

00:40:31consecutively. This is a testing time for Tony, he'll understand that. He's made a rod for his

00:40:37own back because of where they finished last season. Getting in the top six last season was

00:40:41phenomenal. Just coming up from the Championship to get in the top six the first season back in

00:40:46the Premier League was outstanding. You're right, Dundee fans have been expecting we should be a top

00:40:51six club now. I think he got a lot of good loans last season that worked out well. I still think

00:40:57they're a good side. I think they signed Simon Murray who's a great signing for them. You get

00:41:02four defeats in a row. I'm sure if he sat down and analysed those games they could have took four

00:41:08maybe six points out of those games but they've not had the wee rub of the green. I don't think

00:41:12he's under any pressure at all. I think they'll be fine. As you said, they're just not getting

00:41:17a wee rub of the green at the minute. Once they get that win again they'll go back to winning games again.

00:41:21That's exactly what Derek McInnes is hoping for after that victory at Den Spark.

00:41:27We all know draws don't get the job done. It doesn't get you out of the bit. We were a wee bit slow out

00:41:32the blocks last season even though we beat Rangers in the first game. It's a wee bit

00:41:37something similar. We've been threatening to put in winning performances. We've been almost there

00:41:41over 90 minutes but no quite. Whether sending offs or a bit unlucky here and there. I was getting fed up

00:41:47talking about us being a wee bit unlucky and we just needed to win a game of football.

00:41:51Today we won and it was a great, hopefully it's a good reference for us going forward that one.

00:41:57Fair play to Derek McInnes. They've been on a poor run but suddenly that win could give them

00:42:02the confidence they need. Talking of confidence right now we're looking at Hibs 1 Motherwell 2.

00:42:09You two guys must be on a downer at the moment.

00:42:14I said on Friday it had to be a home win. It had to be reasonable performances here and there.

00:42:19But when you come at home in front of your own supporters, large numbers at the game, they're looking

00:42:25for a win. They're looking for something to hang on to the end of. I just couldn't see

00:42:31anything at the weekend that was going to do that. They looked slow in all their build-up.

00:42:37Nobody with any spark at all. Obviously Boyle's not there. There's nobody creating anything.

00:42:43I thought Motherwell deserved the win at the end of the day.

00:42:46What's your take on it, Tam?

00:42:47I thought first half Hibs were probably the better team because I scored, because I went ahead.

00:42:53The first goal's always vital in these games at Easter Road. Motherwell will get it.

00:42:57Then Junior Hoylett gets equalised and you think the momentum's with Hibs to go and win the game.

00:43:01Then a stupid red card for me. Triantis, first ones for diving in the box.

00:43:07When you're on the yellow card, you cannot dive in like that into a tackle. He absolutely kills.

00:43:12He's teammates, he kills, he's manager. He's been excellent for us. He's been a good signing.

00:43:16But it's just a stupid tackle, stupid lunge. Then just almost straight after that, Andy

00:43:21Halliday scores to go 2-1 up and the game's dead. They're not getting the rub of the green.

00:43:28I was a wee bit more complimentary last week against the Rangers. I thought they played well

00:43:32this week, not so good. I don't think David's under pressure, but I think the saving grace

00:43:38for him is Hearts are bottom of the league at the minute. I think Hibs supporters are going,

00:43:43we're still above Hearts. But we've got to start...

00:43:46It's not exactly...

00:43:47Second bottom.

00:43:48I know, it's not exactly. They're in the quicksand, but they're deeper than us.

00:43:53I know, that's what Hibs fans will look at. They'll look at the table and go,

00:43:57we're still above Hearts. But yeah, it's a really, really disappointing result and David

00:44:02needs to start winning games. It's OK, I was saying they're playing OK and playing well and

00:44:06they've got a decent squad. They switched off for Halliday's goal, big boy Kwon, ball comes across,

00:44:11he's sleeping Andy Halliday, ex-Hearts player as well, comes on and scores. It was a disaster for

00:44:17Hibs, a disaster of a result and they've got to go and lick their wounds going into an international

00:44:22break now.

00:44:22Yeah, David Gray, the Hibs boss, didn't mince his words.

00:44:25Actually, in reflection, I think nearly every shot they had in the second half,

00:44:30I think it was five, four or five in the second half, all came as a result of a set-piece,

00:44:34which in some situations is unprofessional if it's just not doing your job, whether it be

00:44:40not tracking your man or not showing that desire to make sure your opponent doesn't get in front

00:44:43of you or a simple... By switching off in these moments, these are big moments in the game.

00:44:49We knew that going into the game. I think, I don't know exactly the number, but at least 40%

00:44:53of Motherwell's goals have come from set-pieces, as it is every week in this league.

00:44:57Being in the league long enough to know that set-pieces are huge at every level,

00:45:01but very much so in Scottish football.

00:45:03There are many ways to win a game, Ruffey. I mean, we were talking about, in the last 20 years,

00:45:09if you were talking about somebody, you said, give me the name of a player who is famous for

00:45:14a long throw and you would automatically think of Rory de Laarp, who used to launch them in.

00:45:20I don't know about you, but over the last week or two, I've been watching some of the

00:45:25games in the Scottish Premiership where the long throw is there, quite a few players...

00:45:30Motherwell, there was a boy from Motherwell on Saturday.

00:45:33Yeah, he was able to...

00:45:34And Lewis Miller, but Lewis Miller was doing it for hubs.

00:45:36Yeah, I mean, listen, it's like a set-piece, isn't it?

00:45:40It's a set-piece because you've got to deal with it, you've got to practice it,

00:45:43you know it's going to come on the Saturday, so during the week when you're doing set-pieces,

00:45:48you have to designate somebody who's going to attack the ball. There's no point in

00:45:51everybody going to attack the ball because you all end up banging into each other.

00:45:55The goalkeeper's got to decide if he's comfortable enough to come out there and take it,

00:46:00which is a breath of fresh air for everybody if he can do that, but it does cause problems,

00:46:04you know, if it's thrown far enough. In fact, I'm going way back a long way,

00:46:09and some of the older people will remember Jackie Husband from Partick Thistle,

00:46:13all the way back in the 60s, because he'd actually throw the ball by the faraway goalpost.

00:46:18Yeah, wow. Kofi Barmer, I think, has got much more to him, though,

00:46:22for Motherwell, than just being a long-thrower. I think Stuart Kettlewell wanted to emphasise that,

00:46:27although it's a brilliant weapon.

00:46:28Yeah, he did, but Ruffey's right, it is a great weapon, and Robin Nielsen,

00:46:31I remember playing against Hearts, needed a long-thrower, and they landed a giant.

00:46:35It's Mark De Vries, Stephen Presley, guys like that are difficult to defend against,

00:46:38so it is a bonus if you sign someone, you scout them, and he's a good footballer,

00:46:42but if he's got a long-thrower as well, it's an added bonus,

00:46:45particularly in Scottish football.

00:46:47Yeah, and of course, I think Jim Goodwin, the Dundee United boss,

00:46:52summed up his 1-0 win with his team at his old club, St Mirren. It was one of those games where

00:46:58I don't think it'll be going out to DVD, according to Jim.

00:47:03I've got no... I don't need to guess what game will be last on the highlight show tonight,

00:47:10it'll definitely be that one. It was a very, very scrappy game. The players deserve all the credit.

00:47:16As a manager, you can change the shape and change the tactics from time to time,

00:47:20but you can't put that character and that desire and that heart into the group,

00:47:25that just has to come naturally, and we've got that in abundance,

00:47:28and we've shown that numerous times this season.

00:47:31Well, fair play to them, because there's times when you've got to win ugly.

00:47:34Yeah, they defended for their lives. They were throwing themselves in front of everything.

00:47:38Kevin Holt came on, and again, that's a big part of his game, getting in the road,

00:47:43but I think when we see the St Mirren manager, he'll be gutted that he never took something

00:47:48out of that game. All the best chances fell to St Mirren, they just couldn't get the ball

00:47:53in the back of the net. Obviously, Dundee United goalkeeper a couple of saves, but in reflection,

00:47:59I'm sure you would think you would at least get a draw out of that game.

00:48:03Yeah, one of your old gaffers used to say that, you know, winning ugly. Who was it?

00:48:07Bobby Wilmston, maybe. Alex McLeish.

00:48:10Yeah, I mean, obviously everybody wants to go and play free-flowing football and win 3-0,

00:48:15but sometimes you've got to gut a game out and grit it out, and that's what happened at the weekend.

00:48:19Both teams, physical outfits, maybe cancelled each other out, and one wee moment of class

00:48:25wins the game, but yeah, I think St Mirren would count themselves unfortunate to lose that game

00:48:30on chances created.

00:48:32Yeah, okay. What were you going to say there, Roffy?

00:48:36No, I'm just saying it was a great strike from Ross Docherty for the goal. Obviously,

00:48:40goalkeeper saw it a bit late, but the boy reacted very, very quickly.

00:48:43Yep, a fair play to Dundee United. You can give us your thoughts on all things domestically,

00:48:49because we're going to the international break. It's Tam's favourite.

00:48:52Another one?

00:48:53It's Tam's.

00:48:53This is every week now.

00:48:54He just hates it, doesn't he? Tam's favourite period is international break. We've got Croatia

00:49:00coming up, and Portugal at home. It's strange, actually. You know what it's like, Roffy. As a

00:49:08kid, I loved international football and loved watching and going to watch Scotland. He's not

00:49:14a big fan of all that. He likes the domestic stuff non-stop.

00:49:17I think it's the way it's structured now, the games, the Scotland games. They seem to be

00:49:23just thrown in there. I don't think anybody knows exactly where we are playing in this Group A.

00:49:29Well, it's better in Nations League, though, Roffy, because one, as Steve Clarke says,

00:49:33you're playing better teams. Two, it takes away the international friendlies,

00:49:39which I think are a waste of time anyway. I think club friendlies are a waste of time as well.

00:49:43I mean, a complete and utter borefest.

00:49:46Yeah, it's okay if you're winning the games against the big teams, but we're not. We're

00:49:49on a bad run now. Every time we get beat, our rankings go down. I think Steve Clarke will know

00:49:56how important it is to have a high ranking when the World Cup groups come out. We don't want to

00:50:01be in a third in a group. We want to be second. You only get that if you're winning games. I can

00:50:07see that playing against these teams make the players better players because they come up

00:50:13against a better opposition, but if that's the case, when you go and play the smaller teams,

00:50:17you've got to win them.

00:50:18Yeah, okay. You can give us your views on international football. Lots of

00:50:23content that we'll be firing out to you this week. The women's football show is on tomorrow.

00:50:28We'll have the journals on Wednesday and, of course, football show Wednesday and Friday too.

00:50:34There's lots of chances for you to win that Aberdeen shirt. We'll maybe play it one more

00:50:39time to give you an opportunity on this feed, but there's a great opportunity for you to win

00:50:44yourself quite a few prizes over the next few months. Just quickly having a quick look down

00:50:49at the English Premier League and, as ever, strangely enough, there's one manager that I

00:50:56think is absolutely red hot favourite for the sack is Eric Ten Hag. I just don't know where,

00:51:02I don't know what is happening in the background at Manchester United.

00:51:05Yeah, I thought it was a decent performance yesterday about Peter. I thought they deserved

00:51:09at least a point. I thought they were the better side. Obviously, a point is not good enough for

00:51:13Man United. They want to be, I think they're languishing in the bottom half of the table.

00:51:17Are we being unkind to them then? Is there a case of maybe there's a long-term strategy that they

00:51:22just need to show the same resolve they did when Alex Ferguson was under pressure?

00:51:27No, I don't think he's cut out for it. I think the job's too big for him. I think the club's too

00:51:31big for him. They're battling away. They obviously can come back at the last minute during the week

00:51:36in Europe and get a point and then a good result away at Aston Villa. Man United should be in the

00:51:41top four. They should be challenging for the titles and cups and they're miles away from that

00:51:45at the minute. I think you'll find in maybe the next defeat or two that it'll be him out the door.

00:51:52Yeah, Ruffey, do you share that view?

00:51:54Yeah, I'm surprised the boy Radcliffe's not got anything to say about that. He's sort of

00:51:58keeping his distance. Every time somebody asks him, he goes, oh, it's not my choice.

00:52:02I'll not be making that decision. But somebody's got to make a decision because obviously

00:52:06the supporters demand a better showing for a team like Man United. I just don't think the

00:52:12players that they've got are Man United players. I don't know if you know what I mean. They just

00:52:18seem to be good players but not really good players.

00:52:22Yeah, I don't see where the strategy is. I don't see what he's doing. There's no real DNA of what

00:52:29a United side is. For me, what a United side should be because if you go back to Sir Matt

00:52:37Busby and the way he set up his team, he wanted to make sure they were hard to beat but he also had

00:52:42that spine in the middle and he had that little bit of class out on the flanks and that blueprint

00:52:49is exactly the way Sir Alex Ferguson built United's side. Solid at the back, great goalkeeper,

00:52:56good spine that could mix it up with the best of them and then out on the wings flare and then,

00:53:01of course, when you've got some strikers, you think of the great strikers that they've had

00:53:06down through the years. When you're getting supply in from the side, you knew what Fergie's side

00:53:11were all about but not this one. I just don't see it. Too many individuals and then some of them,

00:53:17we've already discussed Bruno Fernandes, not really the kind of a Man United captain

00:53:22that you think of but, nevertheless, just a little footnote on Ange Postacoglu.

00:53:29They're great to watch at times, Ruffey, but it's just, it's hear them,

00:53:32scare them for Tottenham fans sometimes. It is and I think the Tottenham fans were hoping

00:53:39after Ange had said, well, my first season I don't win anything but the next season I always win

00:53:44something. So, they were all bought into that, that this could be the year we might win something

00:53:48but you've got to be, when you're 2-0 up and creating chances, you've got to take them

00:53:53and then if things go against you, just like we've been talking earlier on in the show,

00:53:57you've got to show another style and I don't think they've got another style.

00:54:01There's no plan B.

00:54:02No, they don't know how to, they just want to entertain and entertaining is magnificent if

00:54:09you're winning games. The fans will buy into it but fans won't buy into the second half

00:54:15performance like that and you can see he's absolutely gutted.

00:54:17Do you think he'll last to the end of the season?

00:54:19Yeah, yeah, I think so Peter. I think that if you see the game, I watched the game yesterday,

00:54:24first half they could have been 5-0 or 6-0 up but if it went to 3-0 they'd have went for the

00:54:30fourth and the fact is by Ange, plus the cog who plays, there's never going to be right okay,

00:54:34we're 3-0 up, we're 2-0 up, let's just take a striker off, let's put a defensive midfield

00:54:38player on, let's shut up, shut up and get out of here, which Jose Mourinho would do. That's

00:54:41just not his style and for a neutral, you know, I'm not a Tottenham fan but for a neutral to watch,

00:54:46they are the best team in the world to watch because you don't know what they're going to get,

00:54:51you could be 2-0 down, they could come back and win 4-2, they could be 2-0 up and get beat 3-2,

00:54:55it's just one of them where they're great to watch but if you're a Tottenham fan,

00:54:59I can understand it can be frustrating.

00:55:00Yeah and we were talking about Aberdeen at the top of the programme, we did show you

00:55:06a competition that we're running there, we might as well fire it out again just to give you a wee

00:55:10insight if you're a Dons fan, we cater for everybody, we've got lots of prizes coming up

00:55:14but here's the latest one that we're offering for Aberdeen fans.

00:55:20Here at PLZ Soccer, we're giving away this Aberdeen away strip, all you've got to do is

00:55:24leave the answer to this question in the comment section below. What was the last year Aberdeen

00:55:29won the Premier League title? Good luck. Okay, there you are, last year that Aberdeen won

00:55:38the Premier Division title. Don't be guessing, it's a bloody competition for Dons.

00:55:42I'm not saying it must be around, I would say around about the 80s, 90s.

00:55:46Yeah, okay, there you are.

00:55:47Thanks for being that bloody vague about it. Anyway, just on that point,

00:55:55Rafi, did you like the top? Do you like that they're changing these days?

00:55:58Yeah I did, I was actually really stunned the other day when I saw the Dundee goalkeeper strip,

00:56:03I don't know what he's into, it's a bit outrageous.

00:56:07Yeah, too much for you?

00:56:08Too much.

00:56:09Yeah, okay, I must give a mention to the boys at Edinburgh United, they've had a tough year,

00:56:14they were relegated, they're starting to build, get it back together. I was with a few of them

00:56:19yesterday, some of the gear they were wearing Rafi, in the Collington area was slightly...

00:56:24The skinny jeans and the white trainers and stuff?

00:56:27Well not only that, some of them were wearing lumberjack outfits, I mean it was a real mix.

00:56:33An affluent area in Collington?

00:56:35It is an affluent area.

00:56:37Did you walk in and go, yes?

00:56:39That's exactly what I did Rafi, I just thought, here's enough material to cane them,

00:56:45although I have to say, I was a wee bit more, I was a wee bit thinking,

00:56:49a bit more reserved when I was in the drum, with the drum chapel boys.

00:56:54Yeah, with the Strikers escapades?

00:56:55Yeah, exactly, I was a wee bit more, you know, calm.

00:57:01I can't comment on that because it's a police investigation, but it was quite funny.

00:57:04It was funny, it was good actually, so good luck to Edinburgh United for the next season,

00:57:10let's hope they get back up a division, it was good to see all the boys there.

00:57:14Thanks very much to some people who want to actually win the Aberdeen top,

00:57:18if you're not an Aberdeen fan, there's no hassle, you don't need to be negative about it all.

00:57:23One thing we would like you to be positive about, we want to thank everybody

00:57:26who has offered their support over the course of, it's hard to believe Rafi,

00:57:30since we kicked this all off from that phone call from you all those years ago,

00:57:36we're still going strong after what, 12 years?

00:57:3812 years, amazing, people come and go, but some people hang about just a wee bit longer.

00:57:45That's good Rafi, it's the longest I've ever been anywhere, I'm usually released.

00:57:53Yeah, perfect, it happens for seven or eight years,

00:57:56but I must have been here for about five or six now.

00:57:58Are you here five or six years?

00:58:00I've not been released.

00:58:02Well that's incredible, let's not forget, we're not releasing you because we really like you.

00:58:07The other thing about it Rafi is, let's not forget where we picked him up from,

00:58:11because obviously we know talent, we saw something in him that the BBC didn't see,

00:58:16and we managed to influence him to come and join us, remember that Rafi?

00:58:20I said let's get Tam, the BBC have obviously about to give him the opportunity.

00:58:23You always ask me when you're bringing somebody in,

00:58:25I like that guy before you actually.

00:58:28Exactly, and Rafi had the deciding say, he says let's get him in, he'll not threaten me.

00:58:36I don't know how they heard about it from the hot tub.

00:58:40Exactly, he cleared it with your wife.

00:58:45Anyway, the reason I'm on to that is quite simply this,

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00:59:49and we'll bring some new technology to the show

00:59:53and enhance what we're doing at the moment, Ruffie,

00:59:55which is we always like to push on and take it even further.

00:59:58Yeah, I think you have to get out there where we were 12 years ago

01:00:02with the two boards behind us and show you how much things have moved on.

01:00:08Yes, we had two boards, four GoPros,

01:00:11and if Ruffie cracked a joke the whole studio moved

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