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Will Philippe Clement still be Rangers boss in 2025?  SUBSCRIBE NOW:    / @plzsoccer    Will Philippe Clement still be the Rangers manager in 2025? After a disappointing 1-0 defeat to Kilmarnock, the pressure is mounting, and Rangers fans are voicing their concerns about the management and direction of the club.  We also analyze key moments from the latest Scottish Premiership matches, including a thrilling 2-2 draw between Celtic and Aberdeen, and we preview Atalanta vs. Celtic ahead of their European clash in the Champions League.  The Football Show Highlights:  00:00:00 Intro - The Football Show LIVE 00:02:06 Kilmarnock 1-0 Rangers reaction - "Rangers offered nothing" 00:03:26 Rangers fans banner - "Mismanagement of Rangers must stop!" 00:06:15 Will Philippe Clement be sacked? - "One of the worst Rangers teams in a long time" 00:10:58 Aberdeen vs Rangers -"Battle for 2nd in the Scottish Premiership" 00:16:14 Angry Rangers FC fans - "The Rangers fans were subdued"  00:19:17 Rangers away goal record - "Rangers 1 goal is damning at best" 00:20:38 Derek McInnes replace Philippe Clement at Rangers? - "He turned Rangers down" 00:26:02 Celtic 2-2 Aberdeen reaction - "A game eagerly anticipated" 00:32:56 Duk handball v Celtic - "I think it should have stood" 00:36:10 Final reaction to Celtic 2 Aberdeen 2 - "It was really entertaining to watch" 00:38:23 Atalanta vs Celtic preview - "If Celtic go toe to toe they'll get battered!" 00:44:10 Break Scottish Football News 00:47:01 Dundee United 3-2 Hibs reaction - "It's a dark time to be a Hibs supporter" 00:52:23 Hearts 4-0 St Mirren reaction - "A dream start for Neil Critchley" 00:55:26 Motherwell 0-1 Dundee - "It was a tight game"   Subscribe now: ‪@PLZSoccer‬  for more exclusive content, updates, and analysis on all things Scottish football!

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00:00:00Welcome to the Football Show on PLZ Soccer's YouTube channel, I'm Peter Martin, Alan Ruff,

00:00:07Alison McConnell and Tam McManus are here with me on the show. Thank you for joining

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00:00:58day yesterday in Union Street, Ruffy as you can see from the pictures, the open top bus

00:01:04was there, the Aberdeen fans had turned out in their thousands as Aberdeen celebrated

00:01:10the draw against Celtic. They're all there, they're just coming down the street, it's

00:01:17absolutely magnificent isn't it? You've got to celebrate a draw haven't you? What a day

00:01:22for them, the large support that comes into the game, you can see how much they enjoyed

00:01:27the whole day and I think that's what we've all been waiting for, a team to challenge

00:01:32Rangers and Celtic. It remains to be seen whether they can do it long term but as it

00:01:36is just now, they are a breath of fresh air to our league. I think we've really got to

00:01:42We'll get into the meat and bones of Aberdeen's performance shortly. I was being just facetious

00:01:48and obviously trying to noise a few people up who've been absolutely giving Kobe pelters

00:01:54up in Granite City for our open top bus jive but it's all a bit of fun in football, that's

00:01:59what we love about it. We'll talk about Aberdeen's heroics in a moment but off the back of Celtic

00:02:04and Aberdeen drawing, of course yesterday all eyes were on Rugby Park. Ali you were

00:02:09there, Kelly won Rangers nil. In the end there was a, I don't know when I was watching

00:02:14the game unfold, I got that sense of impending doom coming Rangers way. Did you get that?

00:02:21Yeah I just thought it was incredibly flat. I didn't think Rangers offered much in the

00:02:26game at all. There was a brief moment at the start of the second period where you thought

00:02:31they were maybe going to just up the ante a bit. It didn't really materialise and the

00:02:35longer the game went on, Kilmarnock always carried a bit of menace. I didn't think the

00:02:43win flattered them at all but I thought Rangers just offered so little. There was no real

00:02:50urgency about the performance, no real threat, no real sense of fluency, cohesion, no established

00:02:59pattern or identity to how the team wants to play and I think that's Filip Kvont in

00:03:05the job now a year and I think probably more questions than answers. Well of the players

00:03:11on the pitch, once the game was over some of them liked to go towards their fans to

00:03:17thank them for their support. I'm not too sure all of them were heading over that way

00:03:21because the Rangers fans who had stayed until the end gave them what for. But there was

00:03:27a banner prior to the match as well which perhaps is an indication Ruffey of where the

00:03:32club lies at the moment. Rangers fans not happy, no chairman, no chief executive, no

00:03:38director of football operations, no clue, one scapegoat. Mismanagement of Rangers must

00:03:45stop and stop now. The fans are clearly unhappy with what's happening at boardroom level although

00:03:51I must admit John Gilligan's come in there with George Letham just to try and sort things

00:03:59out but the previous incumbents have been getting it in the neck. Yeah they certainly

00:04:04have and for me it's not helping the team but it just shows you wouldn't mind that kind

00:04:10of protest if it was after the game, if it was before the game and for the players to

00:04:15walk out and see that kind of thing, it wouldn't inspire you at all. It doesn't give you maximum

00:04:20impact if you do it after the game. Well I know but you're putting your players in the

00:04:24park under pressure because you're obviously letting your feelings out and you're quite

00:04:27right to let your feelings be heard but strongly right at the beginning of the game if you're

00:04:32running out the dugout and you're running towards your supporters and you see the banners

00:04:36it just puts a wee bit more added pressure on you. I think off the park though Tam, there

00:04:42are lots of problems which have angered the Rangers fans and they just want to try and

00:04:47get it all sorted out. I think John Gilligan's got a huge job trying to sort it out and it's

00:04:55not helped by the fact that whatever you're doing in the background, if you are losing

00:05:00games the pressure intensifies. Yeah does it just look riddleless Peter from top to

00:05:05bottom Rangers at the minute? I think when you look at Philip Clement, who's he answering

00:05:10to? Who does he go into the day and speak to? John Gilligan or somebody above? Who's

00:05:14his boss? It's just an absolute mess at the minute off the park, at the top of the club

00:05:20and on the pitch. I think yesterday they were terrible. I thought that Kermarnock, the first

00:05:26half was possibly one of the worst games of football I've ever seen. It was dreadful.

00:05:31It was a really, really poor game of football but Rangers just had to go down there and

00:05:34just see it out and nick a 1-0 and get up the road. They didn't really create much at

00:05:37all and Kermarnock were always threatening on the break. I think the subs that Rangers

00:05:44brought on made no impact at all. I thought Decez was poor as well, middle of the park

00:05:47they look lightweight. I don't think they've got a leader in there, I don't think they've

00:05:50got any dig whatsoever. I thought Kermarnock in the middle of the park kind of bullied

00:05:54them and if you're a Rangers fan watching that, obviously Celtic, draw on you think

00:05:58and you're back in it. I think they've got a real race for second place now, I really

00:06:02do. I just look at that Rangers team and it's possibly one of the worst Rangers teams I've

00:06:06seen in a long time. Yeah I know the Rangers fans were not happy at the tail end of it.

00:06:12As far as the Rangers manager Philippe Clermont is concerned, it was an opportunity squandered

00:06:17but he says they have to remain focused. Disappointing to get the goal against like that. So with

00:06:24one blind ball behind the defence in no man's land and where our defensive line was not

00:06:31good at that moment but those are things to work on with new players coming in. No there's

00:06:36no concern because we need to be focused on ourselves. If you look at the gap all the

00:06:40time, you forget to do what you have to do. It's about us, we need to win games.

00:06:46Well I take on board what he's saying but I have to say, Ruffey, if you don't win games,

00:06:55you don't survive in this job. I'm looking at Rangers right now, the way they play and

00:07:00I take on board what Ali was saying because sometimes you can work out the DNA of a side

00:07:07and the style and the way they play and who's the leader and how they go about their business.

00:07:14I can't see anything like that in that Rangers side. I don't see, I certainly don't see leadership,

00:07:20I don't see creativity. There's certainly no threat up front and they can be got at

00:07:25the back and I'm looking at Philippe Clermont and the job he's done after a year, yes they

00:07:31got the League Cup but I'm looking at myself, he's on a tightrope all the way to January

00:07:39the 2nd and I think, I just wonder if he's going to survive.

00:07:44Yeah well he's put himself under pressure right away by saying wait until January, judge

00:07:48me then but as we all know there's lots and lots of games before that and that one yesterday

00:07:53was one of them that he would have expected to win and win all the way to January but

00:07:58on that forum it's just not going to happen. I just think the players, we talk about it

00:08:03all, I'm not saying it works all the time, that you need players at a club who know what

00:08:08the club's all about and you know the tradition and all that and that works sometimes. I just

00:08:13think just now the players that he's brought in, as you said there, there's no continuity,

00:08:17they all seem to be playing for themselves, the individuals are not a collective, they're

00:08:21not playing as they're all in it together, they're in it individually and looking for

00:08:28individual sparks here and there and it's just not happening.

00:08:31John on our feed says, Clement has not improved one player and his team have no style of play,

00:08:38if Rangers could afford to sack him he would surely be considering, well they would surely

00:08:43be considering letting him go, they can't afford to bring in anyone else. Well I don't

00:08:48believe that, I've spoken to a number of agents who basically have said, I think people

00:08:54were slightly caught by surprise by his extension to his deal, but what agents are telling me

00:09:01now is with a lot of managers there's a clause in the contract which says look, we're giving

00:09:08you an extension, you may well get an increase in money but that's to protect us if somebody

00:09:12comes and steals you as the manager, so we get compensation. The flip side of that is

00:09:17if we sack you, you're only going to get six months money, you're not getting four

00:09:21years and there's a lot more of that going on because clubs quite simply can't afford

00:09:27to sack people and pay four years of their manager's fees, that could cripple them.

00:09:32Yeah I don't think it'll be a four year compensation Peter, I think most managers are maybe six

00:09:36months or a year in terms of getting paid off, so I don't think that's an issue if Rangers

00:09:42continue to lose games and it becomes a decision that they can't afford not to make. They've

00:09:48got a huge game coming up a week on Wednesday, Aberdeen away, there's six points between

00:09:52them just now, if Aberdeen go nine points ahead of Rangers coming up to November, forget

00:10:00Celtic, I mean Aberdeen, I don't think they can afford not to sack them. I think he's

00:10:05under real pressure Peter, I agree, I don't think he's improved anyone, I look at the

00:10:10players coming in, I look at the Aberdeen manager coming in, I look at him coming in,

00:10:14the players he's bought, excellent, I look at the players that are already there, the

00:10:18Andrew Graham Shinnies guys like that, he looks as if he's improved them, so he's got

00:10:22a boost, he's coached them and they've got a way of playing. Rangers, I still don't know

00:10:28what they play, do they play a counting attack or high press, it's just higgledy-piggledy,

00:10:34you don't know what they're going to be doing next, so he's got a big couple of weeks coming

00:10:38up, not only that game but he's got the semi-final against Motherwell as well, so I think he's

00:10:42got an enormous two or three weeks coming up Philip Clement. Yeah, I mean as far as

00:10:46the side is concerned and who's coming on to make a difference, the bench doesn't look

00:10:53great to change things and this is the key element of what we're talking about with for

00:10:59example Celtic up at Ross County, make four changes and end up winning the game, that's

00:11:04what they're capable of doing and I throw Celtic into the mix Alison quite simply because

00:11:09that should be their rivals, but I'm looking at them right now and I'm saying if Aberdeen

00:11:14can't take Rangers in a battle for second because they're poor, they don't have that

00:11:21ultimate leader and they don't even have somebody you think is an enforcer in the middle of

00:11:25the park, I don't see anything that's unbelievably creative that you'd think to yourself, here's

00:11:33a player that's scary, we've got to watch him. Yeah, I think also too you start to lose

00:11:39a bit of your superiority going into games, I think yesterday you could sense that Kilmarnock

00:11:46just had a sniff of vulnerability about Rangers that they could manipulate and exploit and

00:11:53I wonder just whether or not that will be the same next week up at Pittorchie, now in

00:11:58between times of course Rangers have the European game against Stourbrook and Eston Thursday

00:12:02night, then they have St Mirren at home on Sunday, arguably these are games that they

00:12:07should win, it might just calm things down a little bit, but I think that team is under

00:12:12tremendous pressure going up to Pittorchie against an Aberdeen team who really aren't,

00:12:18you know they're in a no-lose situation, I think they've started the campaign extraordinarily

00:12:23well, they'll take huge belief from the draw that they got on Saturday against Celtic,

00:12:29the manner in which they got that draw and as you know through previous encounters it's

00:12:34always a very difficult environment for Rangers to go to and I think up until this weekend

00:12:39people have looked at it and thought that Aberdeen coming in second and going in ahead

00:12:47of Rangers, you've thought well they've not really played anyone, they've not really been

00:12:51tested, this is the month where we see what they've actually got, all of a sudden this

00:12:55weekend you're looking at it and thinking they may just be plausible contenders for

00:12:59that second spot.

00:13:02If he loses at Pittorchie, I can't see him survive Ruffey.

00:13:09I would think the semi-final would be a bigger game to lose than the Aberdeen one, I think

00:13:15if Rangers don't get to the final, that would be the one that the fans would come in.

00:13:19Ruffey, there's a £60 million roll of the dice, they've got to finish second and remember

00:13:33if I'm not mistaken because of our coefficient and we're dropping down the ladder, suddenly

00:13:38there's more qualifiers, they've got to be in second to be at least involved in qualifiers

00:13:44for the Champions League.

00:13:46See if I was that bored Ruffey, I'd be looking and thinking, our manager has lost at Pittorchie,

00:13:51we're nine points behind Aberdeen and we can outspend them 2-3-1 at the moment.

00:13:57The point I'm making is if you lose to Aberdeen and you go nine points ahead, you've still

00:14:01got the whole season to recoup that, you've still got the whole season to claw that back,

00:14:06we don't know what's going to happen to Aberdeen in the long run.

00:14:09If Mother will beat them in the semi-final and they don't get to a final, which they'll

00:14:13always be expecting to at this moment in time, I think that'll be a bigger outcry than Aberdeen.

00:14:19I think the league is far...

00:14:21I just think the rivalry is far, I know it's far important but going nine points behind

00:14:26can be clawed back in the break.

00:14:29I think Rangers fans, I think it might be the straw that would break the camel's back.

00:14:33Particularly Aberdeen.

00:14:34Yeah, because there's no love at all between them is there?

00:14:38I think that's just as big for Rangers and it's playing itself to Aberdeen.

00:14:43Aberdeen will obviously always raise their game, there's always a real bitterness between

00:14:47the two clubs so I think if...

00:14:49So let's go down the scenario then, they beat Aberdeen, right?

00:14:52Yeah.

00:14:53And they lose to Motherville, you don't think there'll be an outcry then?

00:14:57They just want to be in the title race.

00:14:59They want to be in finals, they want to win cups, that's a cup they cannae win if Mother

00:15:03will beat them.

00:15:04Yeah.

00:15:04There's an argument to say that Premier Sports Cup is important if it's in a collective with

00:15:08other trophies at the end of the season.

00:15:10As a stand-alone trophy, as it was last season for Rangers, I don't think it counts in terms

00:15:16of great kudos or great achievement.

00:15:19It doesn't offset not winning the league.

00:15:21Well, roughly put it this way, would Rangers rather win the League Cup and finish third

00:15:25or not win the League Cup and finish second?

00:15:27Yeah, but as I'm saying, the season lasts...

00:15:31I've only played what many games we've played.

00:15:35I'm saying Rangers could catch Aberdeen throughout the whole season.

00:15:38I wouldn't be worried about that.

00:15:39So that's your logic.

00:15:40But can I tell you something?

00:15:41I would be worried if I'm in the semi-final of a cup against a team that they should beat

00:15:46and they don't get there, I think I'd be extremely disappointed in not getting the

00:15:50chance to get a cup.

00:15:51Ruffey, name me a Rangers fan with as long-term a view as you on it though.

00:15:56Short-term thinking.

00:15:57I know fans are the way fans are.

00:15:59They want to win, win, win all the time.

00:16:03But there'll be a large...

00:16:05I'm not saying there won't be a large amount of supporters who wouldn't be disappointed

00:16:09if Aberdeen beat Rangers.

00:16:11Of course there will, but would there be enough fallout for them to be sacked?

00:16:16I thought it was interesting.

00:16:17He's been stout with Bucharest before that.

00:16:19What happens if we don't beat them?

00:16:21Does it mean every game on game he's...

00:16:23I think Europe's a kind of bonus.

00:16:27I don't think anybody expects him to qualify out of that group anyway.

00:16:31What I thought was really interesting yesterday, apart from the end when the Rangers players

00:16:37went over, very, very tentatively approached the supporting on what was coming, that you

00:16:43saw an anger and an inevitable frustration.

00:16:46But during the game, I actually felt as though it was quite apathetic.

00:16:50It wasn't the same vitriolic, the anger that you see and the frustration that you hear.

00:16:56Acceptance there.

00:16:58I thought it was quite subdued in terms of, given the fear that was on offer, how lethargic

00:17:04the performance was.

00:17:05I thought that was very interesting.

00:17:06And I know you saw an element of it at full time when the Rangers players went over towards

00:17:13the fans.

00:17:13But by and large, I thought there was a real subdued element amongst the support.

00:17:19Almost an acceptance is probably the wrong word.

00:17:22Do you know what I think, Ali?

00:17:23I think the Rangers fans are exhausted.

00:17:26That's exactly.

00:17:27It's almost like, here we go again.

00:17:29Here you go.

00:17:30You're in the same cycle again.

00:17:32The only one that's bailing them out consistently is the Rangers fans.

00:17:37The Rangers fans have continually put their money in their pocket.

00:17:40They've bought the season tickets.

00:17:42They've bought into a plan and another plan and another plan.

00:17:46And just when, and I've spoken to a number of Rangers fans, including, of course, over

00:17:52the course of the last few days, when you have a situation where, as was suggested with

00:17:57Steven Gerrard, you wanted to build from a position of strength when they stopped the

00:18:0210 in a row, it didn't materialise.

00:18:05And then what happens is, the ultimate for me is, you're duped by the biggest con salesman

00:18:11of all time, when you end up hiring a guy who should never have been anywhere near the

00:18:18Rangers manager's job in Michael Beale.

00:18:20I mean, it just beggared belief to me that they would offer him that job, all on a sales

00:18:26pitch of he was the power behind the button.

00:18:29Because quite simply, it's just been one constant mistake after another.

00:18:34Recruitment, then the board walks away, then another board member steps down.

00:18:39Obviously, we are aware of the fact that he needs to restore his health.

00:18:43Your health is more important than anything.

00:18:45But you now have a salvage job in the background, where the Rangers fans have highlighted, no

00:18:51CEO.

00:18:52They're looking and they're saying, the team needs to change, the board needs to get its

00:18:56act together.

00:18:57We need a direction.

00:18:58We need a leader in the boardroom.

00:19:00We need a leader on the park.

00:19:02And we need a manager to consistently grind out results.

00:19:07Even no matter how you do it, just win and get that papers over the cracks.

00:19:12Just keep them in the race.

00:19:13They're not in the race.

00:19:14And that stat yesterday is damning of all the goals away from home this season.

00:19:21Celtic have scored 13, Aberdeen 7, Dundee United 6, Motherwell, St Johnson and Kilmarnock

00:19:28with 6, Dundee and Hearts with 5, St Mirren with 4, Hibbs with 3, Ross County with 1 and

00:19:36Rangers with 1.

00:19:37That's as damning as it gets.

00:19:42Yeah, that's a lack of creativity that Rangers have got.

00:19:46I think you've seen it over the course of the whole season really.

00:19:49They struggle to create chances.

00:19:51You've seen yesterday, the first half was really, really poor.

00:19:55Everything was bouncing off them.

00:19:56We tried to make the wrong decisions, playing the ball.

00:19:59He's unlucky with the one that comes off the bar.

00:20:00But Rangers didn't have a sustained period of pressure where you think the goal's coming.

00:20:05Rangers are on top.

00:20:08There was a nothingness in the game.

00:20:09It looked as if it was going to peter out to a 0-0, to be honest.

00:20:12And then obviously Marley Watkins gets a wee break and gets through.

00:20:14But I've never seen a start like that, Peter.

00:20:17Rangers away from home scoring one goal.

00:20:20I don't know how many games they've played away from home, three or four games.

00:20:24That's madness for a club the size of Rangers to have that kind of goal scoring record.

00:20:28Now, on the flip side of this, and this is where I think there really is something telling.

00:20:32Derek McInnes, after the game, Marley Watkins has scored the goal to win the game.

00:20:37Derek McInnes, they had a shaky start to the season.

00:20:40Europe really kind of put them under pressure as well.

00:20:43But he looked at that game and I think he's actually starting to see the real Kilmarnock.

00:20:49You know, I think in terms of where we are, it was a far more performance than I can expect

00:20:56for ourselves in terms of being robust enough.

00:20:58Hardly give up opportunities, been really strong defensively, lads all doing their jobs

00:21:04well and that responsibility and trust and carrying a threat.

00:21:09Yeah, Derek McInnes, on a fraction of the budget, well organised and they won the game,

00:21:17Alisson.

00:21:18This is a man who I think Rangers, from the story, from the inside track the last time,

00:21:26Derek McInnes was all set to become the Rangers manager.

00:21:28He picked a side for the weekend and then there was a massive U-turn.

00:21:32I think Derek McInnes will be the one type of manager they will be looking to if this

00:21:38all goes pear-shaped because he's already proved that he can take on Rangers without

00:21:44fear, soak up the pressure, pick their moment, win the game.

00:21:48I would agree with you in terms of he should be a contender or should be a threat to the

00:21:54calendar or should be definitely in the equation for the reasons that you've listed.

00:21:58I'm not sure if he would be, one, because he has turned it down before, you can go back

00:22:03a couple of years when he was Aberdeen manager, I think that's when you're referring to,

00:22:07the time that you're referring to, and he opted to stay at Patagos.

00:22:10He's already turned it down.

00:22:11I don't know if there would be a second offer and also I don't know if Rangers fans would

00:22:16want to cast the net a bit wider.

00:22:19However, from my perspective, I think he should have been in the running this time last year.

00:22:25I think his credentials speak for themselves.

00:22:28I think he's repeatedly punched above his weight, both at Aberdeen and at Kilmarnock

00:22:35in terms of just organisation and being able to create a team that are greater than the

00:22:41sum of their parts, which I think for me is where you see coaching, is where you see players

00:22:47improving under the tutelage of good coaches.

00:22:49That's what you've not seen at Rangers.

00:22:51The difference between Rangers and Kilmarnock, as we were saying there, there doesn't seem

00:22:57to be any structure to the Rangers team.

00:22:59You look at the Kilmarnock team, we've got three at the back.

00:23:01They all know what they're doing.

00:23:02We've got three in the middle, we've got two wide boys and we've got two up front.

00:23:07They all know what they're doing.

00:23:08That is an organised set-up of, this is what we're doing and this is how we're going to

00:23:13win games.

00:23:14Are we being slightly unkind to Philippe Clameau and the fact that he's still in the

00:23:17job or is there a realisation that he looks as if he's one more result away from people

00:23:27saying enough is enough or should I flip that and say, listen, I've got to cut this guy

00:23:32some slack and say he needs that time that I think we've been talking about with every

00:23:38other manager.

00:23:39Philippe Clameau just needs the time to crash on for the next six months and see where they're

00:23:45going.

00:23:47I think at any other club he probably would get that time but I don't think he will at

00:23:49Rangers, Peter.

00:23:50I think that he's obviously had to cut the budget massively.

00:23:54I think that goes in his favour.

00:23:55I think he's probably been told that when they come in we need to cut wages.

00:23:58He's got five, six, seven big earners.

00:24:02The club's now on a better financial footing in terms of wages and outgoings.

00:24:08But it doesn't look as if the team's any better than it was last season, Peter.

00:24:13And he's got to go in and improve the players that are there and the guys that have got

00:24:16to come in have got to do well.

00:24:17And there's not one signing that he's made that you...

00:24:20I could say, by the way, he's been a great signing for Rangers.

00:24:23There's not one signing he's made that you think he's been a great signing for Rangers.

00:24:26I think you could make an argument for regression.

00:24:29I think you could make an argument to say that the team looks as though it's gone back

00:24:32the way, which might be no great surprise given the financial circumstances and the

00:24:37fact that they have cut their budget and they did lose players.

00:24:41But I think, if you think that the last time Rangers were down at Rugby Park, prior to

00:24:46yesterday, was at the end of last season when they lost a goal, 2-1, they'll come back in

00:24:511-2-1 and looked at that point to be viable title contenders, to where that fell off a

00:24:59cliff in the latter weeks of the campaign.

00:25:02And it's never really got going now.

00:25:04I would take the point that yesterday could be seen as an aberration, other than the Celtic

00:25:09game.

00:25:09However, I think it's just been so disjointed at points.

00:25:14I think even when they have been winning, it's not been particularly convincing.

00:25:19I don't see any particular style or identity within the team.

00:25:25Okay, so give us your thoughts.

00:25:29Will big Phil Clement see out the season?

00:25:32Do you think he's the man, if you're a Rangers fan, do you think he's the man to take Rangers

00:25:36forward?

00:25:36Does it just need that little bit of luck, that focusing on what they have to do, as

00:25:42what Philippe Clameau has mentioned?

00:25:44Is it time just to get behind the manager and see how the new year brings that game

00:25:50at Ibrox against Celtic?

00:25:52Will he get that far?

00:25:54Give us your thoughts on it.

00:25:56Is it bigger, getting knocked out of the cup by Mullal, as Ruffey mentioned?

00:26:00We'd love to hear from you Rangers fans on that.

00:26:02We move on to Celtic 2, Aberdeen 2, because that result ultimately threw up a possibility

00:26:10of Rangers closing the gap.

00:26:11In the end, that point for both sides extended the difference between them.

00:26:16Celtic and Aberdeen, it was a game eagerly anticipated.

00:26:20And I must just start by saying, we are going to be very, very positive, I think rightly

00:26:24so about Aberdeen.

00:26:25But Alan Macdonald says, I've got a question for Peter.

00:26:29Embarrassing comment last week, Ree, the open top boss for getting a point at Park

00:26:34Head.

00:26:35Do you think it's time to lay off that patronising comment?

00:26:38Big games coming up, but confident in the team.

00:26:42Alan, you need to get a life.

00:26:45We need to have a bit of humour in football, Ruffey.

00:26:49But again, I didn't think they were going to get a point.

00:26:52But fair play to them, because they didn't go toe-to-toe, Ruffey.

00:26:58They had very little percentage of possession.

00:27:01They were well organised.

00:27:03They play a 4-2-3-1, which drops back into a 4-5-1, and they know their job.

00:27:11They know exactly what they've got to do in that team, and they played it well.

00:27:17Yeah, there's not many teams come back for 2-0 down at Park Head.

00:27:21I said last week I fancied Celtic to run over the top of Aberdeen.

00:27:25I thought 3-0 was my prediction, and at 2-0, I was sitting very, very smugly, thinking

00:27:30I'm bang on.

00:27:31And then second half, I think Celtic had a mad 10-15 minute spell, where Aberdeen came

00:27:37flying out the traps.

00:27:38He made two subs.

00:27:39You've got to give him credit.

00:27:39He made two subs at half-time.

00:27:41He took Clarkson and Nisbet off, and he brought Sockler on, and he gets a goal.

00:27:45Great goal.

00:27:46Great ball through for McGrath, and a wonderful finish.

00:27:50And they're back in the game.

00:27:51A wee bit of luck with the second goal, but they rocked Celtic in that little spell.

00:27:56And then you thought they went 3-2 ahead, and you're thinking, wow, Aberdeen are going

00:28:01to win the league.

00:28:02And then obviously, the fans were getting really excited.

00:28:06But I think you've got to give them enormous credit for coming from 2-0 down.

00:28:11Proved a lot of people wrong.

00:28:12Proved a lot of people wrong in here, myself included.

00:28:15And that's going to give them enormous confidence to come back from 2-0 down against Celtic

00:28:20at Parkhead, stay unbeaten, and then Rangers losing yesterday.

00:28:24A wonderful weekend for an Aberdeen fan.

00:28:25Yeah, absolutely.

00:28:26And in the stand was Sir Alex Ferguson, Ruffey, watching on.

00:28:31And I'll tell you, it was just like a leaf out of his Aberdeen side.

00:28:36Because if they were behind at half-time, he used to let them know.

00:28:40Yeah, as Stan said, the manager deserves a lot of credit.

00:28:43He's identified where it wasn't happening for Aberdeen, and the changes he made changed

00:28:48the game for him.

00:28:49And I've said before, if you're prepared to have a go at this Celtic defence without

00:28:55Cameron Vickers, they are so fragile, it's unreal.

00:28:58I don't think the back four understand what they're all doing.

00:29:01And if you are prepared to play that way, you'll get goals.

00:29:05Because we've seen it before, without Cameron Vickers, there's just no leader at the back

00:29:11there.

00:29:12But in saying that, I think the last 10 minutes in the extra time was absolutely brilliant.

00:29:17The chances that were coming, it was just like the Alamo, everybody in the box.

00:29:23And the first half Celtic, yeah.

00:29:26Second half, you have to give Aberdeen, I think Aberdeen were the only team to come

00:29:30out of it at the end with credit.

00:29:31Because nobody expected, as Stan said, to come back with two nothings.

00:29:34So to get out of there, two each, and the way the players defended was brilliant at

00:29:39the end.

00:29:39Well, this is what Brendan Rodgers had to say about the overall performance.

00:29:44We had a good control in the first half.

00:29:46Should have been more in front.

00:29:47And then probably around about that 50th minute to the 60th minute, a little bit passive

00:29:52without the ball, lacked aggression.

00:29:54They obviously make the changes.

00:29:55And obviously the guy coming on runs in behind.

00:29:59And that's his strength to get the goal.

00:30:00And you have to give them big credit for that.

00:30:03And Jamie and his team, they're well coached, well organised.

00:30:06And the changes work for them well.

00:30:10I don't know if you can remember me saying this, Roffy, but I did mention that the boy,

00:30:14Nielsen, I mean, he's just camera personified.

00:30:18Everything goes through him.

00:30:20And he organises the back and gets them back and then moving forward.

00:30:25And this is the difference when you talk about midfielders who are good midfielders.

00:30:30Before McGrath makes that brilliant pass, the ball before that, Nielsen takes the pass.

00:30:38Before it comes to him, Roffy, he's already looked up and he can see McGrath.

00:30:43And what he does with one touch of the ball is he plays it forward, takes out two Celtic

00:30:49players.

00:30:50And that allows McGrath, suddenly, if he's got the ability, which the boy has, he was

00:30:55outstanding.

00:30:56He plays the ball right through the heart of Celtic's weakest area, which is the centre

00:31:01of their defence.

00:31:03And they get the goal to give them a sniff back into the game.

00:31:07I just thought it was that killer pass.

00:31:09It was that bravery on the ball that we look at week in, week out.

00:31:14Players who are brave, who want to play it forward, who want to make that killer pass,

00:31:19you get your just rewards.

00:31:21Well, it's obviously they've worked on it throughout the week.

00:31:23They've saw the Celtic back four push up very high.

00:31:28And if you've got somebody like McGrath who can feed that ball through, it's there if

00:31:33he's got the ability to do it, which he did.

00:31:36I just thought that they've done their homework.

00:31:39I don't remember anybody saying anything about Maida or Koon in the game.

00:31:44I don't remember any of the two doing anything of any significance.

00:31:48So they've worked on that as well.

00:31:49They've stopped the ball coming into Kyoga, apart from the goals.

00:31:53But for the whole 90 minutes, they nullified Celtic's best players.

00:31:57And at the end of the day, they were fortunate on some occasions, but at the end of the day,

00:32:01you've got to give them credit.

00:32:02Yeah, Jimmy Tolleen after the game.

00:32:03I think every manager loves a wee bit of luck.

00:32:05This is what he had to say on their overall performance.

00:32:11The Aberdeen manager, have I got it?

00:32:14I'll come back to that in just a minute, what he had to say.

00:32:16But on the basis of every manager needs a little bit of luck.

00:32:22They got that.

00:32:24I'm going to be, I'll read out what he had to say, first of all.

00:32:27I like the team spirit the players have, how they help each other.

00:32:32It's not easy to come here and have 2-0 against you and go out in the second half

00:32:37when Celtic have such quality.

00:32:39Then of course, sometimes you need to have some luck.

00:32:41In the last three, four, five minutes, there were some crazy moments on the pitch,

00:32:45but the players sacrificed themselves.

00:32:48They gave everything they had and they did do that.

00:32:52The only thing I was going to say to you, I thought the goal,

00:32:57the Aberdeen goal should have stood, the third one.

00:33:00I don't think Duke consciously moved his hand towards that ball.

00:33:04I think it's battered off him and it's gone into the net.

00:33:09I would stand to be corrected by a match official who turns around and says,

00:33:12well, it gains them the ultimate advantage because it plays his hand.

00:33:17I didn't see any angle.

00:33:18It suggested to me he knew anything about it or consciously had his arms out.

00:33:23So that was the first thing.

00:33:24The second thing is I thought Celtic should have had a penalty in the last two seconds

00:33:28because I thought Duke did handle it.

00:33:30But I disagree with both of them.

00:33:33That's the great thing about it.

00:33:34I thought he did use his hand for the goal.

00:33:36I thought the third goal should have been off.

00:33:38The incident on the line with Duke, I am completely unconvinced either way.

00:33:43I've not seen one angle that gives you any clarity on what happened.

00:33:48I think you're just looking at how he's body moves.

00:33:50I thought it came off his thigh when maybe on his hand.

00:33:52I thought it was really difficult to see it.

00:33:54That means it's not a penalty.

00:33:56If it comes off his thigh first and then hits his hand, it's not a penalty.

00:33:59God, I looked at it from one angle and I thought, it's a penalty.

00:34:02I thought, as I said, I think unfortunately the cameras seem to be behind.

00:34:08I've seen one clear.

00:34:09There's nothing camera coming this way.

00:34:13It was just the speed of the ball coming back out.

00:34:18It hit him in the chest.

00:34:19I couldn't have seen it coming out.

00:34:20It looked as if it was like that.

00:34:22But again, I've watched it hundreds of times as well.

00:34:25Me too.

00:34:27I'd love to have seen VAR's angles on it.

00:34:30Yes.

00:34:31I don't think we've seen them.

00:34:33What we were told is that there was a very quick check in the game and then he blew his whistle.

00:34:39I thought maybe it hit his hand, but it wasn't a deliberate hand.

00:34:42There was nothing he could do about it.

00:34:44What, for the penalty?

00:34:45It's impossible.

00:34:45Apparently, it came at him so quick.

00:34:47His hand wasn't in a natural position.

00:34:49It was down there and there was nothing he could have done about it.

00:34:52That's right.

00:34:52I think it hit his hand and it just said.

00:34:54Well, here's one here.

00:34:56It says, Duke's goal was a goal.

00:34:58That's from a James Tilleen.

00:35:02I mean, everybody's got their say on it.

00:35:05I think, as a footnote to this, Aberdeen, nothing but credit from it because

00:35:13if that doesn't give you the confidence, Ali,

00:35:15the manager, and my footnote to this is this,

00:35:20the manager realised that he was up against a side that could outspend them and outplay them.

00:35:27And he went 4-5-1 when they didn't have the ball and he banked them close to each other.

00:35:33And then he waited to pick his moment.

00:35:35A bit of intelligence in the movement too.

00:35:38Some of the passing was clever, the passing for that first goal.

00:35:41A bit of fortune with the second goal.

00:35:43On another day, you look at that performance and you think,

00:35:45on another day, see that last 10-15 minutes, Celtic would score a few goals.

00:35:50I think it was at 16% possession or something like that, Aberdeen had.

00:35:54But I think they will take massive belief,

00:35:57not just from the point that they got against Celtic and at Celtic Park,

00:36:01but from the manner in which they did it to be 2-0 down at 2-0.

00:36:05And you know there's a weight of history with Celtic and Aberdeen at Celtic Park.

00:36:09They've been on the end of some real hidings at points.

00:36:13And you maybe think at half-time, is there a collapse coming?

00:36:17Is Celtic going to get the next goal?

00:36:18Is this going to be another kind of cricket scoring?

00:36:21And I told you so, you know Aberdeen's title race lasted until October, blah, blah, blah.

00:36:25I think they deserve huge credit.

00:36:27I think they'll draw immense psychological belief from that result coming back.

00:36:32But I have to say, I thought it was good fun to watch.

00:36:37I thought it was really entertaining

00:36:39in terms of it being end-to-end and a fantastic spectacle

00:36:43and a great advert for Scottish football.

00:36:45I thought it was a thoroughly entertaining game.

00:36:47I think it's refreshing as well, Peter, that you see a team going there and...

00:36:50Have a go.

00:36:50...having a go and you want competition.

00:36:55He sensibly had a go.

00:36:56He didn't just go and gung-ho.

00:36:57He didn't gung-ho.

00:36:58He was on the counter-attack.

00:36:59They were well organised.

00:37:00But you want to see that, Peter.

00:37:01You want to, even a Celtic fan, you want to go and turn up and watch

00:37:04win 4-5-0 every week.

00:37:05You want to go and see a team tested.

00:37:07That's what I would want anyway.

00:37:08I saw a video of a Celtic fan going absolutely tonto yesterday, right?

00:37:12At the overall Aberdeen 2-2.

00:37:15And I go back to what Ruffey and I used to say.

00:37:17I mean, honestly, the reason why I...

00:37:21We love football.

00:37:21We love Scottish football.

00:37:23And we make our living out of it.

00:37:25But I was brought up in a time when you weren't sure who was going to win the league.

00:37:31It was bloody great.

00:37:32You could get on a supporter's bus and think to yourself,

00:37:36Dundee United could hammer us today.

00:37:38Aberdeen could beat us.

00:37:40Do you know what I mean?

00:37:41It was that way that you wanted to go and support your team but not know the outcome.

00:37:48That's what I think a league should be.

00:37:50I don't know what's going to happen here.

00:37:52Not, I am an entitled fan and we must win by five or six goals.

00:37:58And I'm talking about it from a Rangers position when there were nine in a row

00:38:03to a Celtic position.

00:38:04You know, when they were dominating and they are dominating again.

00:38:10I like it when teams like Aberdeen did it.

00:38:12Falkirk did it great to watch.

00:38:17Do it in a measured fashion.

00:38:18I thought it was...

00:38:19That's exactly it.

00:38:20You know, and that's the big question.

00:38:22Now, because Ruffey, next up for Celtic, Atalanta.

00:38:26I can't wait to see.

00:38:28And she's smiling because she knows it's coming.

00:38:31I can't wait to see how he's going to line up and play against Atalanta.

00:38:36Because if he goes toe-to-toe with Gasparini's side, he's going to get battered.

00:38:41And he'll not only get battered with his team on the park,

00:38:45but I think a lot of people will shift their thought process

00:38:48on Brendan Rodgers unless he implements plan B.

00:38:52Yeah, well, if it did go pear-shaped.

00:38:54I mean, horrible pear-shaped.

00:38:55He's going to have to come out with a better reasoning than what he did the last time.

00:38:59There's only so many times you can come out and give that kind of excuse.

00:39:03So, I know he looks a wee bit stubborn is the right word,

00:39:08but he doesn't like other people to tell him what to do.

00:39:10If he comes out and plays that back four that played at the weekend there,

00:39:15then they're going to lose goals.

00:39:16You know, because I don't think they have the ability

00:39:19for the midfield to help the back four in that kind of game.

00:39:23And, you know, I can't even imagine Celtic coming out of there with nothing each.

00:39:29You know, so I think this team are on for him.

00:39:32They've got quality players in the team.

00:39:34So, I don't know how you can change it, Peter.

00:39:37I don't know what he can do.

00:39:38He doesn't have, for me, he doesn't have a sitting two in front of the back four,

00:39:44you know, that can dig in and make tackles and kill the game

00:39:48and break it up like the players that he used to have.

00:39:51You know, off the top of my head,

00:39:52he used to play in there in the European games and he's away now.

00:39:57Kaveri Tawanyama type player.

00:39:58Players like that, you know, who would sit in and don't let them get to the back four,

00:40:05you know, don't let them get in there.

00:40:06But he doesn't have that kind of player.

00:40:08He's got players who want to entertain and go forward and score goals and that's great.

00:40:12But when you come up against better teams,

00:40:15you've got to have other players to come in.

00:40:17I wonder if he might be tempted to start with Adam Ida up front,

00:40:22just to give you an out, someone to hold the ball up a bit.

00:40:25It's just not Keogh's game at all.

00:40:27I think, obviously, you know what Keogh offers.

00:40:29I just wonder if he might change it in that sense.

00:40:35I wouldn't even begin to tell a good manager like Brendan Rodgers who to play.

00:40:43I would just say great managers can change, can come up with a plan B.

00:40:50You're going in against a side that have won the Europa League,

00:40:54they beat a Bayer Leverkusen side on one of the longest unbeaten runs in German football

00:41:01and they went toe-to-toe in the Europa League final and defeated them.

00:41:05I think Brendan Rodgers, is he a good manager in this league

00:41:10with now anybody able to compete with him with lots of money?

00:41:13Well, is he a good manager against European opposition that can outspend him?

00:41:18As Martin O'Neill used to say on countless occasions,

00:41:22Gordon Strachan and Neil Lennon, when you're coming up against an opponent

00:41:26who's better than you, you've got to work out a way to punch above your weight.

00:41:31Yeah, I think he's got to try something different.

00:41:34I don't necessarily think he will.

00:41:37I think that Brendan's Brendan.

00:41:38I think he'll back himself, he'll back his team.

00:41:41He'll have confidence in his team to do the bits that they didn't do well against Dortmund better.

00:41:47I think he'll play a similar system.

00:41:49I think the big one for me is Carter Vickers.

00:41:52I think they've got to have him back.

00:41:53The big boy trustee has been unconvincing so far

00:41:56when you look at the money that Celtic have spent.

00:41:58I think he's...

00:41:59He's a Sheffield United player.

00:42:00Yeah, he's been unconvincing.

00:42:01He's still paid £6 million from Peter,

00:42:02so you'd be expecting more domestically in a couple of games that I've seen him.

00:42:07I don't think he's looked great.

00:42:08I think they need Cameron Carter Vickers back badly

00:42:10because when you go into that environment away in the Champions League,

00:42:13you're going to be under the cosh for large periods of the game

00:42:16and you've got to defend strongly.

00:42:17You've got to defend your box strongly.

00:42:19And I think if they go in with scales and trustee,

00:42:22I think a lot of Celtic fans would be maybe watching it from behind the couch.

00:42:25So I think that Brendan will not change too much,

00:42:28but he'll try and be a little bit more solid off the ball.

00:42:31I still think they'll play the same system.

00:42:33How can he change?

00:42:33What formation can he change into with the players that he's got?

00:42:38What can he do?

00:42:39What do you mean?

00:42:40He's got two full-backs and he's got two centre-halves.

00:42:42He's got three in the midfield and two wide guys and one up front.

00:42:46What is he going to change to make himself...

00:42:48The way they play, he has to change the script,

00:42:56which is basically, you can't keep saying,

00:43:00keep passing, keep passing out from the back,

00:43:02then keep tippy-tappy, tick-a-tack-a through the middle against better players.

00:43:09What you do is, every now and then you say to yourself,

00:43:12we've got to bank it 4-5-1,

00:43:15make sure that when we get out, we hit them on the counter-attack

00:43:18because his side has lots of pace.

00:43:22So let's play counter-attacking football,

00:43:25but when they've got the ball,

00:43:27everybody drop behind and make them difficult to try and get in behind.

00:43:31That's the script.

00:43:32The playing out from the back in Dortmund was responsible for

00:43:35directly, off the top of my head, three goals.

00:43:38Yeah.

00:43:39When you think of the mess that Celtic were getting themselves into

00:43:42because of the press of Dortmund,

00:43:43really good players coming at you

00:43:45and Celtic not able to cope with it,

00:43:47and conceding possession, conceding really quick goals.

00:43:50I think sometimes you have to adapt,

00:43:52you have to accept you're up against it,

00:43:55you're playing against better players,

00:43:57and just work out a way.

00:43:58What's the best way to go and try and engineer a result?

00:44:01I just, I don't think Celtic can afford a 4-5-6-0.

00:44:06They can't afford to be on you and make a real hiding again.

00:44:10Let's have a look at the news.

00:44:13Hello, I'm Cara, and here are your daily news headlines

00:44:15on Monday 21st of October, sponsored by Arnold Clark.

00:44:19Leon Balligan says that he understands fan criticism

00:44:22after Rangers were beaten 1-0 by Comarnac.

00:44:26Not giving you a lot of time, so you have to adapt fast

00:44:28and know what's coming.

00:44:30It's not always easy to handle, I know that and I understand,

00:44:33but that's just what this place is like

00:44:34and you have to live up to their expectation

00:44:36and then, like I said,

00:44:38think the supporters are entitled to their frustration.

00:44:41After his first win as Hearts manager,

00:44:43Neil Critchley says he's not scared to make changes

00:44:46ahead of Hearts' busy European schedule.

00:44:49It won't be that players who are left out of the team

00:44:51are just cast aside.

00:44:53We'll make sure that they get the right training tomorrow,

00:44:55the right care individually

00:45:00for when they get an opportunity to play,

00:45:01which could happen.

00:45:03I'm not afraid to change just because we've won the game.

00:45:07I think it's right to change on Thursday night.

00:45:09Mikel Arteta hopes his Arsenal side can bounce back to form

00:45:12after a defeat to Bournemouth on Saturday night,

00:45:14where he saw his team go down to 10 men

00:45:17for the third time this season.

00:45:18They play Shakhtar Donetsk in the Champions League

00:45:20tomorrow night.

00:45:22We have to start tomorrow, obviously.

00:45:24The desire is there.

00:45:25We want to play these kind of matches

00:45:28and we know the atmosphere is going to be terrific

00:45:30tomorrow night,

00:45:31so let's produce that and then try to win the game.

00:45:34And finally, it's been reported that Atalanta

00:45:37could be without six key first team players

00:45:39as they face Celtic in the Champions League

00:45:41on Wednesday night.

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00:45:52Yeah, quite a few Celtic fans

00:45:54hoping those six players actually don't take to the field

00:45:56in midfield and up front.

00:45:59I'm allowed to replace them.

00:46:01Yeah.

00:46:05Sean, who's a Rangers fan,

00:46:06says Rangers are a new team.

00:46:08I think everyone needs to cut them some slack.

00:46:11And Tony says, Celtic,

00:46:14they have to drop back farther

00:46:16than the game against Dortmund.

00:46:17The gap between defence and midfield is huge.

00:46:22And James says, Peter,

00:46:24our defence is simply not good enough for Europe.

00:46:28So many people, thank you for your views on this

00:46:32because obviously there are semi-finals coming up as well.

00:46:35And Atalanta, says Kaiser,

00:46:38would be a top four side in the English League.

00:46:41Well, we're about to find out.

00:46:44And I think this one from one of our other viewers says,

00:46:48Atalanta missing a few starters.

00:46:51That means it may just be 4-0 then.

00:46:54So everybody's got their own point of view on the Europe.

00:46:57And domestically,

00:46:58domestically,

00:46:59Dundee United 3,

00:47:00Hibs 2,

00:47:02your boys,

00:47:03your boys are unbelievable.

00:47:05Joan Yule,

00:47:06two mad tackles out of the derby

00:47:09and it just goes from bad to worse.

00:47:12Yeah, you're talking about Rangers in the circle.

00:47:15I think that Hibs is the same.

00:47:16It's like Groundhog Day.

00:47:17I feel as if I've just been saying the same stuff for two years.

00:47:20Since they sacked Jack Ross,

00:47:21they get a new manager in.

00:47:23They start poorly,

00:47:24the manager's under pressure.

00:47:25They sack the manager,

00:47:26they get a new manager in.

00:47:27They start poorly,

00:47:29they get a new manager in.

00:47:30It's just,

00:47:31honestly,

00:47:31it's just a real,

00:47:32real dark time to be a Hibs supporter.

00:47:34I think that there's never been such a bigger disconnect between the fans and the team

00:47:39and the board and the club.

00:47:41You know, you look at it,

00:47:42if you just break it down,

00:47:43all the managers can't be bad managers.

00:47:45So you start to look,

00:47:46well, what's the problem at Hibs?

00:47:47And for me,

00:47:48it's the people that are running the club

00:47:50and they've got to take a real hard look at themselves.

00:47:52I think a lot of Hibs supporters are starting to point the finger

00:47:55at Ian Gordon and Ben Kenso and the board at Hibs.

00:47:59And I think that's rightly so

00:48:00because,

00:48:01as I said to you,

00:48:02not all these managers are duds.

00:48:04Some of them are down in England and done well.

00:48:06Nick Montgomery's in at Tottenham.

00:48:07Sean Maloney's in there at Wigan.

00:48:10You know, so it's just,

00:48:12it's just one thing after another.

00:48:14Joe Newell, experienced player,

00:48:15crazy,

00:48:15let the team down,

00:48:16let the manager down.

00:48:18You know, I'm a big supporter of Joe.

00:48:19I think he's a very, very good player,

00:48:20but he's let a lot of people down with that second tackle.

00:48:23You're on a booking,

00:48:24he's an experienced guy.

00:48:25You can't do that.

00:48:26The week before,

00:48:26it was Treantis.

00:48:28You've got to have a little bit more slack.

00:48:29He's a younger player,

00:48:30but they're killing the manager.

00:48:32They're killing David Gray.

00:48:33Individual errors.

00:48:34The goalkeeper,

00:48:34hopeless at the third goal.

00:48:36No poor at the second goal.

00:48:38Individual errors are costing them every week.

00:48:40They're not playing particularly badly,

00:48:42but if they keep making individual errors,

00:48:45this manager's going to get the sack as well.

00:48:46And they've got a huge game coming up

00:48:48at the weekend against Hearts.

00:48:50They're sitting bottom of the league.

00:48:51Hearts are second bottom.

00:48:52Never thought I'd ever see that,

00:48:53to be honest.

00:48:54Two massive clubs sitting in the bottom too.

00:48:56And David's now,

00:48:58sadly, under a bit of pressure

00:48:59with the Hibs supporters.

00:49:01A lot of them didn't think he was qualified

00:49:03for the job,

00:49:03but he's inexperienced.

00:49:05He's obviously been there

00:49:06with different managers

00:49:06and it's not worked out.

00:49:08A lot of guys wanted him

00:49:10because he's a club legend,

00:49:11but Frank Sose was a club legend

00:49:13and he lasted 13 games.

00:49:14I know that because I was there

00:49:16and they sacked him.

00:49:17So it doesn't matter

00:49:18if you're a club legend

00:49:19or you scored the win

00:49:20in the Scottish Cup final.

00:49:21If you're not getting results,

00:49:22then you're going about the door.

00:49:24But they've got a huge game

00:49:26coming up at the weekend.

00:49:28I'm not going to put it

00:49:29that he has to win the game.

00:49:31It's the Easter road.

00:49:33They can't lose the game.

00:49:34I think if they lose the game,

00:49:35then David's going to be

00:49:36under real pressure.

00:49:38Even this early,

00:49:39Peter, nine games into the season.

00:49:40It's incredible you even think that,

00:49:41but the Hibs simply cannot be

00:49:44bottom of the league.

00:49:45They can't be.

00:49:46Oh, we don't need to buy

00:49:47the record on Thursday now.

00:49:49Yeah, that's the column.

00:49:54Although remember, by the way,

00:49:57Tam is the equivalent

00:50:00of the weather cockerel.

00:50:01He swings whenever the wind blows.

00:50:04It'll change at any moment.

00:50:07Peter, do you know what?

00:50:08It's the worst opposition

00:50:09you could play in the weekend

00:50:10and all because the Hibs fans

00:50:11would be dreading going to play

00:50:12that game against Hearts.

00:50:13The record Hibs have got against Hearts

00:50:16over the last period.

00:50:18Hearts coming into town is just...

00:50:20I've got to take issue with it.

00:50:22It's a sad time for you to be a Hibs fan.

00:50:23Let's be honest.

00:50:24It's just not a great time.

00:50:25Since Neil Lennon,

00:50:27Eddie May's come in, caretaker.

00:50:29Paul Heckingbottom, I just...

00:50:32Went down to England and done well.

00:50:34I thought he was uninspiring,

00:50:36to be honest with you.

00:50:37Eddie May comes back in.

00:50:39Jack Ross, sacked him

00:50:41before a semi-final.

00:50:43And then David Gray, caretaker.

00:50:47Sean Maloney, who said to me

00:50:48he felt as if he was going to get

00:50:50sacked after four weeks.

00:50:52David Gray comes back in.

00:50:54Then Lee Johnson, who for me

00:50:58was just comedy gold

00:51:00in an after-match press conference.

00:51:03Especially when he said

00:51:04he needed five transfer windows.

00:51:06And I thought, that'll be good.

00:51:08David Gray.

00:51:09Then Nick Montgomery.

00:51:11And then David Gray back in.

00:51:15I look at it and I'm saying to myself,

00:51:19is Malcolm McKay in the background

00:51:21offering him some advice on this?

00:51:24Should he be offering him some advice?

00:51:26Should he have someone

00:51:27of a more experienced voice

00:51:30as a partnership in this, Ruffey?

00:51:32Because he looks like a rabbit

00:51:34in the headlights at the moment.

00:51:35No, for me at this moment in time,

00:51:37it's Malcolm's job to be there.

00:51:39To just chat at the door and come in,

00:51:40have a chat.

00:51:42Malcolm's been in the game a long time,

00:51:43a lot of good clubs.

00:51:45So he must have some input

00:51:47in what's happening.

00:51:48I wouldn't like to see him just leaving

00:51:49him to deal with it himself.

00:51:51But Tam's right.

00:51:52This is a massive game at the weekend.

00:51:54If you're a Hibs player

00:51:56and a Hearts player in that game,

00:51:57it's a game you don't want to lose.

00:51:59And at this particular time,

00:52:00unfortunately for Hibs,

00:52:01Hearts are in that.

00:52:02Four games in the weekend,

00:52:04they'll be cock-a-hoop

00:52:05going into that game.

00:52:06And you're right,

00:52:08the Hibs supporters will be dreading it.

00:52:09And if you're a Hibs player,

00:52:10you don't want to be in the end of a derby.

00:52:13Yeah.

00:52:14If you're in the end of 15 of them.

00:52:16Yeah, absolutely.

00:52:17Well, there's Ruffey

00:52:18There's Ruffey actually just telling me.

00:52:23What the problem is here,

00:52:24of course, Hearts 4-0 winners

00:52:26over St Mirren.

00:52:27And the perfect start

00:52:30for the Hearts boss.

00:52:37And we'll come back to Neil Critchley

00:52:39in a minute.

00:52:40But 4-0 for them is a dream start.

00:52:43It's a dream start.

00:52:44And even the first goal,

00:52:45if he's going to take any credit for that,

00:52:47it's what he's been working on

00:52:49leading up to that game.

00:52:50It was a fantastic first goal they got.

00:52:52And after that,

00:52:53obviously, later on,

00:52:54we'll probably see the St Mirren manager.

00:52:55But some of the goals they lost after that

00:52:58were just diabolical.

00:52:59It was just diabolical decision-making

00:53:01for every player in that St Mirren team.

00:53:03And I'm sure we'll hear from their manager

00:53:06that he's a wee bit annoyed.

00:53:07Yeah, here's Neil Critchley.

00:53:09Yeah, when you go to bed last night,

00:53:12go to sleep,

00:53:13you dream of a start like this.

00:53:16Scoring a few goals

00:53:17and keeping a clean sheet.

00:53:18So I'm delighted for the players.

00:53:20They've been fantastic this week.

00:53:23So receptive to the work that we've done.

00:53:26I think there's signs of that on the pitch.

00:53:28And to keep a clean sheet,

00:53:29I think that's really important as well.

00:53:31It's incredible, that team transformation,

00:53:33isn't it?

00:53:344-0.

00:53:37Yeah, it's absolutely extraordinary.

00:53:39They didn't look like a team

00:53:40that could have four passes,

00:53:41never mind four goals in them.

00:53:43Yeah, you would expect them to go

00:53:45and kick on a bit.

00:53:46Although, you do wonder sometimes

00:53:49when you change a manager

00:53:50and you get a result like that

00:53:51and you think Stephen Lee-Smith

00:53:53must be watching and telling me to say that.

00:53:56Yeah, absolutely.

00:53:58Robinson himself has actually mentioned

00:54:02that he felt as if the St Mirren players

00:54:06played their major part in the Hearts win.

00:54:08The Hearts didn't need a manager bounce.

00:54:09They didn't need to play particularly well

00:54:11to beat us.

00:54:12We beat ourselves.

00:54:12We had the first goal.

00:54:14We are in control of the ball.

00:54:15We lose it.

00:54:16We don't react to that.

00:54:18The second goal is a great finish.

00:54:19You have to hold your hands up.

00:54:20The third goal, we run into each other

00:54:23and we give the ball away for the fourth goal.

00:54:24So Hearts didn't have to beat us.

00:54:25We beat ourselves.

00:54:26So it's very much back to basics.

00:54:29Ultimately, I'm to blame for it.

00:54:30I put the team out.

00:54:32Some of the decision-making today

00:54:33is simply not acceptable.

00:54:36We've made decisions

00:54:37and senior players making decisions

00:54:39that aren't good enough

00:54:40and we have to have a response to that.

00:54:42Otherwise, it'll be a long, long season.

00:54:44Three defeats in a row.

00:54:46Yeah, I think he made a good point too.

00:54:48He was saying that he felt

00:54:49a lot of the players were thinking

00:54:50that they were maybe a European team,

00:54:52just given recent seasons, I think.

00:54:56They had a difficult start too

00:54:57when you're balancing the demands

00:54:59of European football,

00:55:00a bit like Kilmarnock

00:55:01and then trying to cope with domestic games.

00:55:03But where Kilmarnock have started

00:55:05to piece together a sequence of results,

00:55:08St Martin just haven't quite managed to do it yet.

00:55:10I think he'll want to get them back to

00:55:12basics almost, just back to playing,

00:55:14making themselves really difficult to beat.

00:55:16And you didn't see St Martin

00:55:18on the wrong end of scorelines like that

00:55:20too often across recent seasons.

00:55:23It's a bit of an aberration.

00:55:24Yeah, Marouanel Dundee won,

00:55:27Lyle Cameron with a goal.

00:55:30Stuart Kettlewell, I think,

00:55:31actually could see this one coming.

00:55:33My greatest fear, coming off a good run

00:55:35and you get asked the question all week

00:55:37that we come out and we don't reach

00:55:38the levels that we have done.

00:55:40There's been a couple of games

00:55:41we've had to hang in there at times

00:55:42in stages of games.

00:55:43But, you know, the last period of the game,

00:55:46last 30 minutes or so of the game,

00:55:47you could argue, yeah, it was tight

00:55:49and all the rest of it.

00:55:50But I expect better from what the players

00:55:52have shown us to this point.

00:55:53We kind of throw caution to wind.

00:55:55We've got a lot of attacking players on.

00:55:57We put a little bit of pressure on

00:55:58and Dundee maybe drop off us a little bit.

00:56:01But I don't feel we created enough

00:56:03to merit me sitting here saying,

00:56:05stating a claim for winning the game

00:56:06or taking anything out of the game.

00:56:09Yeah, the other match, it was St. Johnson 3,

00:56:12Ross County 0.

00:56:12I never predicted that, did you?

00:56:14No, we didn't.

00:56:15I don't think anybody predicted

00:56:16Dundee winning either.

00:56:17I think that's great for Tony Daugherty

00:56:18to get that monkey off his back.

00:56:21I think there were 15, 16 games

00:56:22without a win.

00:56:23So, fantastic result for Dundee, St. Johnson.

00:56:26Nah, nobody's seen that.

00:56:27I think the new manager's in the stand.

00:56:29Obviously, he's having an effect already.

00:56:31Kim Pioka is a good striker.

00:56:33We've seen that so far.

00:56:34And young Mackenzie Kirk coming on.

00:56:36I played with his dad, Andy,

00:56:38who's in the dugout as well.

00:56:39So, that's great for the Kirks,

00:56:40that he came on and scored a goal.

00:56:41He was a promising young striker as well.

00:56:43So, yeah, I think from St. Johnson,

00:56:45looking as if they've not got many goals in them.

00:56:48That's a big result for them

00:56:49because Ross County, I think,

00:56:50will be round about them

00:56:51at the bottom of the table

00:56:52at the end of the season.

00:56:53Yeah, absolutely.

00:56:54The other thing I was going to say to you is,

00:56:57I don't know if you're aware of this,

00:56:59Ruffy,

00:57:00Kenny, the Aberdeen fan from LA,

00:57:03is coming into Scotland

00:57:06and with a bit of luck,

00:57:08he might be here on Friday in the studio

00:57:10as one of our guests.

00:57:10Oh, that'd be fantastic.

00:57:12And obviously, he'll be cock-a-hoop

00:57:14after what's happened at the weekend.

00:57:16So, it'll be great to see him.

00:57:18It's always nice to put a face to a call.

00:57:21Yeah, absolutely.

00:57:21We're giving fans a chance to come in

00:57:24and batter his alley.

00:57:25It doesn't get any better than that, does it?

00:57:28Kenny's a respectable...

00:57:29There's a queue of Aberdeen fans.

00:57:31Kenny's a respectable Aberdeen fan.

00:57:34So, you won't get the same treatment

00:57:36I usually get.

00:57:37Always good to get a fan in,

00:57:39to get a perspective on it.

00:57:41And none better than an Aberdeen fan

00:57:43in this week of all weeks.

00:57:44Yeah, brilliant.

00:57:45I think the Aberdeen fans are

00:57:46in high spirits at the minute.

00:57:48You know, they've had a tough couple of seasons

00:57:50through a few managers,

00:57:51but I just think they've landed on a good manager.

00:57:54I think Dave Cormack was due,

00:57:55weren't he, to be honest,

00:57:55with his record of appointing him.

00:57:57But I think that they have got

00:57:59a real steel about them,

00:58:01a real structure about them.

00:58:02And, you know, it was a fantastic weekend

00:58:04for Aberdeen,

00:58:05going down to Celtic to null down,

00:58:06getting a point, Rangers losing,

00:58:08you know, increasing the gap over Rangers.

00:58:10And, yeah, it'll be great to see the fans.

00:58:12I met a couple at the weekend as well,

00:58:13who are big fans of the show

00:58:15and love the show as well.

00:58:16So, it's good to bump into people

00:58:17that actually watch the show.

00:58:18Yeah, brilliant.

00:58:20And also, Kenny's just said to us there

00:58:21that when he's coming in on Friday off,

00:58:23he's got you a gift.

00:58:25So, just don't do any tennis or any exertion.

00:58:28Hopefully it's an opinion.

00:58:29Well, hopefully he's got enough air

00:58:34to get you out of it.

00:58:35But nevertheless, Kenny's got you a gift.

00:58:38Yeah, I better get him something myself.

00:58:40He'll find out what chocolate he likes.

00:58:44What do you get an Aberdeen fan

00:58:45who's got everything, Ali?

00:58:47At the moment, the whole thing is,

00:58:48you know, I mean,

00:58:49they're just absolutely flying.

00:58:51Go to Celtic Park,

00:58:52none of us predicted it,

00:58:53get themselves a draw

00:58:55and head back up the road thinking,

00:58:58although some Aberdeen fans

00:58:59have said this to me

00:59:00before we finished this show,

00:59:02second, a lot of games to play.

00:59:05Aberdeen fans on here have been saying

00:59:07we should be thinking

00:59:09we could finish first.

00:59:10It's the kind of thinking they should have,

00:59:12whether or not it's going to happen or not,

00:59:13it's a different matter.

00:59:14But certainly that's how

00:59:15they should be thinking.

00:59:17But you could maybe get a couple of bowls

00:59:20for Kenny, just for all the humble pie

00:59:22the Aberdeen fans are going to be

00:59:23giving you to eat over the next couple of days.

00:59:25Absolutely.

00:59:26I'm just hoping that Kenny doesn't come in

00:59:28with any livestock,

00:59:30which could threaten the programme.

00:59:32Anyway, apart from that...

00:59:36Don't try it.

00:59:36Oh no, I'll leave you with that thought.

00:59:39Looking forward to having Kenny in as well.

00:59:41There's lots to come,

00:59:42the women's football show.

00:59:44We'll have Wednesday as well

00:59:46with a football show.

00:59:47And let's not forget

00:59:48the journos this week as well.

00:59:50We've got European football

00:59:51to look forward to

00:59:53and we'll be talking about

00:59:54that throughout the week.

00:59:55So give us your thoughts

00:59:56on how you think

00:59:57the Scottish club's going to do

00:59:59Bucharest, Ammonia Nicosia

01:00:01and of course Celtic in Italy

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