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00:00On Sunday, Tuesday night, at 9 o'clock.
00:0228 years ago,
00:04a new type of snack was born,
00:06which was easy to carry around
00:08and easy to eat.
00:10Jagariko.
00:12Kappa Ebisen,
00:14Potato Chips,
00:16etc.
00:18Kalbi, which has been around for a long time,
00:20released a new type of snack.
00:22The target was
00:24a high school girl
00:26who was the source of the popular snack at that time.
00:28The student was a teenager at my school,
00:30which was easy to carry around
00:32and easy to eat for a walk.
00:35Her snack was called jagariko.
00:37Jagariko! Jagariko! Jagariko!
00:39Jagariko Jagariko Jagariko
00:43Once she saw it,
00:45her popularity rose to another level
00:47by influencing communities
00:49that could not forget Jagariko.
00:51She became a partner
00:53in producing the classic very soon.
00:55We will now wait
00:57What was it that gave birth to them?
00:59There lies an unknown failure,
01:01suffering,
01:02and a yearning to surpass it all.
01:05Tonight's event is the Jyagariko welcome party.
01:09Now, the door to space and time has opened.
01:18The backstage of the movement that the Jyagariko welcome party will unveil.
01:22Jyagariko Welcome Party
01:25The first guest is Hiroyuki Yamasaki, the founder of Jyagariko.
01:33Thank you for having me.
01:38The third guest is Hidemasa Yanai, in charge of Jyagariko.
01:42We also have Mai Nagayoshi, in charge of Jyagariko.
01:48Today, we will talk about the development of Jyagariko and the backstage of the movement.
01:52Thank you for having me.
01:55How much is Jyagariko selling right now?
01:58In Japan, it's about 4.5 billion yen.
02:024.5 billion yen?
02:03Yes.
02:04That means it's selling, right?
02:06Yes, it is.
02:074.5 billion yen.
02:09I can't even imagine it.
02:11It's a big number.
02:13There are about 100 million people in Japan, so it's about 4 per person.
02:17Are you eating that much?
02:18Maybe more.
02:20It's selling that much?
02:22Jyagariko has become popular among the people.
02:25It was released in 1995.
02:28What kind of company was Kalbi before that?
02:32In 1955, Kappa Arare, the predecessor of Kappa Ebisu, was released.
02:38Was the name Kappa Arare?
02:40Yes, it was.
02:41After that, it evolved into Kappa Ebisen.
02:43After that, Sapporo Potato and Potato Chips were released.
02:48Fukurogashi was the main company.
02:51Has Kappa Ebisen changed since Kappa Arare?
02:54Kappa Ebisen was born by kneading shrimp.
02:57That's how it became Ebisen?
02:58Yes.
02:59Then, what is Kappa?
03:01At that time, Kappa Tengoku was popular.
03:07The creator asked the author to draw the character of Kappa Tengoku.
03:12Kappa Tengoku was in Fukurogashi as a character.
03:15It was in Fukurogashi at first.
03:17Since then, Kappa Tengoku is no longer there.
03:19It has become Ebisen's shrimp.
03:21That's right.
03:22I see.
03:23Kalbi was good at Fukuro-type snacks such as Kappa Ebisen, Sapporo Potato, and Potato Chips.
03:31In that field, he was the absolute king.
03:36However, he had his own worries.
03:40Fukuro-type snacks were sold at a high price.
03:49Even if a new product was released, it would be sold at the same place.
03:54It was a competition between us.
03:57Even if a new product was released, it would be sold at the same place.
04:04That's right.
04:05Does that mean you can't think of a new product in Fukuro-type snacks?
04:10Of course, Fukuro-type snacks are sold at the same price.
04:13However, convenience stores were expanding at that time.
04:18So, I decided to develop a snack that is not in Fukuro-type snacks.
04:23Kalbi was in the Fukurogashi market.
04:27However, even if a new product was released, it would be sold at the same price.
04:36So, I decided to develop a product that is not in Fukuro-type snacks.
04:47Now, people eat potato chips while watching TV at home.
04:55However, high school girls eat potato chips in their bags.
05:00They eat potato chips in places other than their homes.
05:03I see.
05:04I wrote that in my concept sheet.
05:06In fact, high school boys are the ones who eat the most Kalbi snacks.
05:13At that time, high school girls made a boom with loose socks.
05:18There was a high school girl boom, wasn't there?
05:20Yes, there was.
05:22It was around the time of Kogyaru.
05:25That's right.
05:26I aimed at high school girls.
05:28Then, the number of high school girls in their 20s increased.
05:34At that time, high school girls bought everything.
05:39Is that true?
05:41Yes, it is true.
05:43That's amazing.
05:44It was a volume zone at that time.
05:46In the 1990s, there was a sudden high school girl boom.
05:51Those statements and fashion were leading the world.
05:55I focused on those and came up with two concepts.
05:59First, I aimed at high school girls.
06:03Second, I aimed at non-Kalbi products.
06:10And this time, I used the original concept sheet.
06:15Potato sticks.
06:17Yes.
06:18Did you already have a concept for potato sticks?
06:20At that time, I wanted to strengthen marketing.
06:23So, I did a survey on what high school girls wanted for snacks.
06:30The keywords that came out of the survey were
06:32easy-to-use,
06:34easy-to-eat,
06:36and so on.
06:38Based on those keywords, I came up with a concept sheet for potato sticks.
06:41It's a box-type that's easy to pick up.
06:44It's a box-type, isn't it?
06:46Yes, it is.
06:47It's a cup-type now,
06:49but box-type snacks were also popular at that time.
06:54What kind of snack is a box-type?
06:57A long one.
06:59Oh, I see.
07:01It's still popular.
07:03Oh, I see.
07:05I see.
07:07I've heard of that.
07:09If you make a snack like that,
07:11you can put it in a place where it's not black and white,
07:14and you want to put it next to a selling snack.
07:17That was the first concept.
07:19You wanted to open up a new market.
07:21Yes.
07:22At that time, people were saying that
07:24there would be fewer consumers and children in the future.
07:28So, I wanted to put the product in a different place.
07:32The picture in your hand is black and white,
07:35so if you paint the package red, it will look like that.
07:38The concept is similar, isn't it?
07:40Yes, it is.
07:41By the way, it was a yellowish color.
07:43Oh, it's yellow.
07:45Oh, it's not green.
07:47Oh, I see.
07:48It was yellow.
07:50And the biggest feature of Jagariko is the texture.
07:54It seems that it was quite difficult to achieve this exquisite hardness.
07:59I was particular about making it from raw potatoes.
08:04There are dried potatoes like potato flakes, right?
08:08Instead of making it from those,
08:11I wanted to reduce the hardness from raw materials.
08:15Oh, you wanted to make it more potato-like.
08:17Yes.
08:18You wanted to sell the good quality of the material.
08:20That's right.
08:21Doesn't raw potatoes get harder?
08:24Yes, they do.
08:25Oh, did they get harder?
08:26In fact, it was harder.
08:28Oh, I see.
08:29You made it soft and made it hard.
08:31What kind of process did you go through to get to this hardness?
08:35I made a prototype every day with the project team.
08:39I added various materials to make it soft.
08:42In that sense, I tried things like biscuits and crackers.
08:47I tried various materials in the world.
08:50Gradually, I made it soft and got closer to the texture I have now.
08:53How hard was it?
08:54Did you get a lot of people to eat it?
08:56Did you get a lot of people to eat it?
08:58Did you get a lot of people to eat it?
09:00Well, in the end, we decided it ourselves.
09:03To be honest, I was told that it was still hard because it was based on kappa shrimp.
09:09Kappa shrimp is so soft that you don't need teeth.
09:12It's crispy.
09:13That's a good thing, isn't it?
09:14That's right.
09:15From the point of view of Calbee, the company that sold it,
09:18what do you mean by hardness?
09:20That's right.
09:21At that time, there were quite a lot of opposition.
09:23I feel like I'm going to be told,
09:25Who eats this hardness?
09:26Calbee is a company with a strong love for potatoes that has contracted farmers all over the country.
09:33The management at the time also had a strong obsession with raw potatoes as a raw material.
09:40Yamasaki's team was also trying to make raw potatoes as a raw material,
09:45but there was a problem with using raw potatoes in addition to making it hard.
09:50At first, it was the first technology in the world.
09:55Depending on the day, you can make good potatoes,
09:58but depending on the day, you can make bad potatoes all day long.
10:04What's the difference?
10:06There are oily potatoes and harder potatoes than expected.
10:12Does that mean that potatoes are different in the first place?
10:16That's right.
10:17At that time, I didn't know that.
10:20It was a repetition of what to do depending on the day.
10:24What made you realize that potatoes were a wave of raw materials?
10:29We are technicians, so we observe them every day.
10:34When I look at the data I've analyzed,
10:38I can see that it went well on this day, but it didn't go well on this day.
10:42I can see that it doesn't go well with potatoes with little solid ingredients.
10:46I can see that it doesn't go well with potatoes with a lot of water.
10:49I can see that it doesn't go well with salad flavors, but it goes well with cheese flavors.
10:53That's the difference.
10:54That's right.
10:55I got a hint from that and improved it little by little.
10:58Do you know that there is a lot of water in the potato when you put it in?
11:05I've been measuring it since I made potato chips.
11:10I see.
11:11He couldn't cope with the individual differences by using raw potatoes.
11:16At first, he couldn't make a stable production.
11:20In the first place, Calbee's signature product, potato chips, was also made with raw potatoes.
11:26Why did the difficulty change so much?
11:30I asked Mr. Kenichi Ohno, who was in charge of potato chips at the time.
11:36When potato chips are processed in a fryer, the final product is ready in less than 2 minutes.
11:45In the case of potato chips, it takes about 2 hours to start raw potatoes.
11:50In the meantime, there are 3 or 4 processes that affect the quality.
11:56The final quality is determined by the balance around it.
12:00I remember that it didn't go well with the application of my experience so far.
12:07The potato chips were gradually shaped by fine-tuning.
12:12The recipe was a top secret.
12:16There are many secrets in the recipe.
12:18Is it more difficult than before?
12:21Only a limited number of people can enter the factory.
12:26Only a few people know the manufacturing process.
12:30Is there a secret that is so important?
12:36That may be the case.
12:38If it's a factory, you can guess how it's made.
12:43But if you can't imitate it, is there a secret?
12:47There may be.
12:50If there is no secret, other manufacturers will do their best.
12:54Three years after the development started, the prototype of potato chips, Jaga Stick, was finally completed.
13:00It was tested and sold.
13:03What is the reaction of the market?
13:06It's Jaga Stick.
13:08It's Jaga Stick from Potato Stick.
13:10It's a little different.
13:12It's a potato chip.
13:14There is a carrot in front of Jaga Stick.
13:18Is it because it contains carrots?
13:20Yes, it contains carrots and parsley.
13:22It's all the same.
13:24How did it sell?
13:26It was stable without promotion.
13:30At that time, I got the data from Minen.
13:34It was stable and sold.
13:36Did everyone buy it without any promotion?
13:40It's a great product.
13:42I think there was a new one, but it was stable.
13:47I found that there were many people who repeated it.
13:51This concept has a chance to sell.
13:55I think it's a win-win situation.
14:00I'm getting more and more confident.
14:02At first, I was told that it was hard and tasteless even if I investigated it in the company.
14:09When I was told that it was hard, I thought I had seen it before.
14:13That's why I was told to make it as soft as Ebi-sen.
14:17But as the result grew, the person who said that said,
14:20I like the hardness of Ebi-sen.
14:23Was there such a person?
14:25I think there was such a person at that time.
14:27I think so, too.
14:29I think so, too.
14:31I think such a person will be great.
14:34If the sales were stable,
14:36I think it would be good to distribute it all over the country.
14:40But one thing has changed.
14:42Why did that change?
14:44When I asked the customer's opinion,
14:47I think a cup would be good.
14:50I took the bag out of the bag and opened the lid.
14:55Then I could eat it right away.
14:57At first, when I opened the box, it was in a double-layered state wrapped in a bag to prevent moisture.
15:04In order to solve this problem, I started to improve the container.
15:08However, the manager made an extra order.
15:13At that time, I was also a sponsor of F1.
15:17I thought it would be good to put it in the drink holder of the car.
15:21I see.
15:22That was also a point.
15:24Can you eat it in one go in the car?
15:26Yes.
15:27Did you think it was a car because you were a sponsor of F1?
15:31Or do you need to eat it in the car?
15:34At that time, I thought it would be good to wrap the top in F1 and put it in the drink holder.
15:39The inside of the drink holder also matches the exterior product.
15:42I see.
15:43The length of the drink holder was also shortened.
15:46It was a little shorter than Pocky.
15:52It was a little shorter than Pocky or Toppo.
15:56Why did you shorten it?
15:58I cut the product itself in half and made it possible to eat it in one bite.
16:02I see.
16:03What do you mean by one bite?
16:06In the past, it was a square shape.
16:09I felt uncomfortable with the corners of the drink holder.
16:12So I cut the product in half and made it round.
16:15I felt uncomfortable with the corners of the drink holder.
16:17Does that change the texture of the drink holder?
16:21Yes.
16:22I call it a comfortable texture.
16:25I feel like I can bite the square shape.
16:28Is the round shape better?
16:29The round shape is uniform and the corners are not hard.
16:33I see.
16:34Yes.
16:35In order to realize the desire to make it easier to eat,
16:39he improved the drink holder from a box type to a cup type.
16:44However, there was a reason why he had to improve the drink holder from a jug stick.
16:51The length of the jug stick was 120mm.
16:54It was a little long, so it broke a lot.
16:57There were also many problems with bending.
17:00At first, I tried to sell it in a shape of putting it in a bag and putting it in a box.
17:05However, if it bends too much, it won't fit in a bag.
17:11Even if it fits in a bag, it will break inside.
17:14There were various problems.
17:15So I decided that the bag was a little tough.
17:18After that, I thought it would be better to put it in a cup and sell it easily because it was a stick.
17:24So I cut the length to make it shorter.
17:28When it became shorter, it was no longer a stick.
17:32So I changed the name to Jagariko.
17:36I shortened it to Jagariko, cleared the problem, mass-produced it, and sold it.
17:47He overcame all the manufacturing challenges of the number of users.
17:51The name was also changed to Jagariko.
17:55The character of the giraffe is a symbol of Jagariko.
17:59It is a catchphrase that there is no giraffe if you eat it.
18:03In addition to this, there is also a joke in the package.
18:08Why is there a joke?
18:11It's been selling well.
18:13There are mountains and valleys, so it's been selling well.
18:15Is there a valley?
18:16Is there a valley of Jagariko?
18:18At that time, there was a valley.
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20:28Jagarico, which has overcome all user needs and manufacturing challenges and evolved from Jagastic.
20:36The catchphrase is that it is a giraffe character and that there is no giraffe when you eat it.
20:44Why is the giraffe a joke?
20:46At that time, I wanted to make it a brand.
20:50I thought there would be a character to make it a brand.
20:53There was a character called Sir Endos in Calbee.
20:58We imitated him and decided to make a character.
21:03We thought a lot about it, but we didn't have a good one.
21:06There was a giraffe in R.A. Conte.
21:09It's a famous phrase that you can't stop Kappa Ebisen.
21:13It's a great phrase.
21:15Jagarico, which has overcome all user needs and manufacturing challenges and evolved from Jagastic.
21:18The catchphrase is that it is a giraffe character and that there is no giraffe when you eat it.
21:21If it was a different character, would it be different?
21:26Maybe.
21:28I don't know what kind of character it is.
21:30Frog?
21:32It's like a delicious bear.
21:34That's a good idea.
21:37There is a possibility of becoming a bear.
21:39There is.
21:41There are a lot of miscellaneous goods.
21:44There is a phrase that says there is no giraffe when you eat it.
21:47That's all I thought about.
21:49The rest is up to you.
21:51Actually, all the new products contain miscellaneous goods.
21:55This is the product I made.
21:58Let me see.
22:00Oh, it's Chinese.
22:02Jagarico is Chinese.
22:04Is it miscellaneous goods?
22:06Jagarico is Chinese.
22:08I designed the package based on that.
22:11Chinese?
22:12Did you make it Chinese because you like Chinese food?
22:14The taste was like this.
22:17It's a taste like chili oil.
22:19Jagarico is Chinese.
22:22I thought it was Chinese, so I made it a Chinese-like package.
22:25It's like a development meeting.
22:28Mentaiko cheese monja taste.
22:30What kind of taste is this?
22:34I see.
22:35I understand.
22:37I understand, but I don't know what to say.
22:39Is it a potato?
22:42Yes, it's a potato.
22:45I understand.
22:47I understand very well.
22:49It's garlic, so it's Nakano olive salt.
22:52It's like this.
22:54It's like this.
22:56It's miscellaneous goods.
22:58Did you say Chinese after that?
23:01It's not fun to be impressed.
23:03I see.
23:05I don't think I can do it like you.
23:08I don't think I can make you think like that.
23:11Did you decide on the concept of the taste?
23:19Did you make a lot of mistakes after that?
23:22Sometimes I make a lot of mistakes.
23:25I make a lot of mistakes when I make a package.
23:32If you don't make a mistake, you can't sell it?
23:34I can't sell it.
23:35You can't sell it.
23:37You can't sell it.
23:39Sometimes people ask me if it's okay to make a mistake.
23:42It's not a matter of taste.
23:45It doesn't matter if you make a mistake.
23:50It's a matter of identity.
23:52I see.
23:54Do you make a lot of mistakes?
24:00I have a team meeting once every two weeks.
24:04I have to make a mistake at first.
24:07I have to make a mistake even when the company is dark.
24:10It's hard.
24:12It's hard to make a mistake when you're asked to make a mistake.
24:18So I make time to think about the mistake the night before.
24:24It's like Dave Spector at home.
24:27He's been thinking about it all the time.
24:30Four years after the development.
24:32Improvements and improvements.
24:34Finally, the release of Jagarico has begun.
24:38Did the market react well to this?
24:41Yes, thanks to you.
24:43The test version was good and improved.
24:45If it doesn't get better, it's a problem.
24:47First of all, I sold it at a convenience store.
24:49It was stable and sold well.
24:51Next time, I'll make a commercial.
24:53I'll promote it.
24:55I decided to sell it in Niigata.
25:01Niigata?
25:03Why Niigata?
25:05I heard that it is often sold in Kanazawa.
25:09I heard that it is often sold in Shizuoka.
25:13Shizuoka is the population of Japan.
25:16The ratio is easy to understand.
25:18Why Niigata?
25:20I couldn't make a lot yet.
25:22When I was asked if I could make a commercial in Niigata,
25:26I chose Shizuoka, Niigata, and Nagano.
25:30I chose Niigata for various reasons.
25:33Jagarico didn't have a production system at the time of release.
25:38Jagarico was chosen as a place where you could make a commercial.
25:41Jagarico was chosen as a place where you could make a commercial.
25:44Jagarico was chosen as a place where you could make a commercial.
25:47Here is the commercial at the time.
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26:20This is a masterpiece.
26:22It's very impactful.
26:24It's very easy to understand.
26:26Even though you didn't explain anything,
26:28I could understand what kind of food Jagarico is.
26:30At the end, you said it was the right potato.
26:32What do you mean by that?
26:34That's right.
26:36At that time, I was often told that.
26:38I'm particular about potatoes,
26:40and my image is that it's a
26:42legitimate potato snack.
26:44That's what I thought.
26:46It's a legitimate potato snack.
26:48That's what I thought.
26:50It's a very sharp commercial for a legitimate potato snack.
26:52You didn't explain anything.
26:54I was lucky.
26:56I was very lucky.
26:58The director of the commercial
27:00liked it very much.
27:02He said,
27:04This is a texture.
27:06This is a name.
27:08He liked it very much.
27:10When I left it to him,
27:12I was able to make a commercial like this.
27:14Did you know how to sell it in an instant?
27:16Yes, I did.
27:18Did you know how to sell it in an instant?
27:20Yes, I did.
27:22Did you know how to sell it in an instant?
27:24Yes, I did.
27:26He is a genius planner.
27:28He is a genius planner.
27:30How was the response?
27:32Thanks to him,
27:3470 to 80 percent of people in Niigata
27:36saw the commercial
27:38and bought it.
27:40I want to eat it.
27:42That's why you remember it.
27:44That's why you remember it.
27:46Did you sell it well?
27:48Did you sell it well?
27:50Yes, I did.
27:52Did you sell it well?
27:54Did you sell it well?
27:56Did you sell it well?
27:58At that time,
28:00I sold it well.
28:02She sold it well.
28:04She sold it well.
28:06However,
28:08she was still worried about that problem.
28:10She was still worried about that problem.
28:12She was still worried about that problem.
28:14Kagome!
28:16Magikado Quiz
28:18What is the most important organ
28:20that controls our health?
28:22What is the most important organ
28:24that controls our health?
28:26Liver
28:28Liver is
28:30an important organ
28:32that controls our life activities.
28:34What is the important keyword
28:36for the liver?
28:38What is ALT?
28:40I don't know the details.
28:42I don't know the details.
28:44ALT is a indicator
28:46that measures the health
28:48of the liver,
28:50and it is important
28:52to take care of it
28:54as soon as possible
28:56if it is judged to be
28:58high in a healthy diagnosis.
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29:28It is processed at the GMP
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29:32and quality management.
29:34I was told that ALT
29:36was high in a healthy diagnosis.
29:38I thought this was it.
29:40Kagome's Sulforaphane
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33:18How long did it take to get a uniform quality?
33:22It took a few years to get a stable product.
33:26I think it took 4 or 5 years.
33:28After that, the development team did a lot of research.
33:31We call it the golden standard.
33:35We did a lot of research on the perfect standard.
33:38We're still working on it.
33:40So it's not complete yet?
33:43We're still working on it.
33:45Don't come back until it's complete.
33:48We're a company that can change the standard now.
33:52Times have changed.
33:55We're a great company.
33:57Jagarico was able to produce a stable product.
34:01From now on, they will develop a variety of flavor substitutes.
34:06How many flavors have they released so far?
34:10We have more than 200 kinds of Jagarico.
34:16When did you start producing these kinds of Jagarico?
34:19We launched the Jagarico Kitchen series in 2002.
34:25We've been trying to change the flavor.
34:28We've been spreading souvenirs all over the country since then.
34:32Did you know where the souvenirs came from?
34:37The first souvenir I got was Maizuru.
34:41It's a meat-flavored Jagarico.
34:43I see.
34:45It's a meat-flavored Jagarico from the Navy.
34:47I heard that His Majesty bought it for me.
34:50A lot of people buy meat-flavored Jagarico from Maizuru.
34:55Did you write a letter to His Majesty?
34:57No, I didn't.
34:59That's amazing.
35:01His Majesty eats Jagarico.
35:04I don't know if he ate Jagarico or not, but I wrote a letter to His Majesty.
35:07That's amazing.
35:08We asked the studio to show us the current line-up of products.
35:15Is it a beef tongue flavor?
35:17It's a beef tongue flavor.
35:19Is it a beef tongue flavor?
35:21It's not crispy at all.
35:24It's a beef tongue flavor.
35:27It's a beef tendon flavor.
35:30It's a beef tendon flavor.
35:33He doesn't use a tongue.
35:35It's a beef tendon flavor.
35:40It smells like beef tongue.
35:48I see.
35:50It's a beef tongue flavor.
35:52I see.
35:54It's a beef tongue flavor.
35:56It's a beef tongue flavor.
35:58He eats Jagarico.
36:02I'm eating grilled meat now.
36:04It's amazing.
36:06I was eating Jagarico.
36:09Where is a beef tongue flavor?
36:11Where is a beef tongue flavor?
36:15I can't find a beef tongue flavor.
36:18It's a beef tendon flavor.
36:20There was a beef tongue flavor.
36:22Why do you have a beef tongue flavor?
36:25Why do you have a beef tongue flavor?
36:27I'm curious about various flavors.
36:32Many people like soy sauce the most.
36:40I see.
36:43This is good.
36:45This is good.
36:47It's easy to understand.
36:49It's easy to understand.
36:52You can put it in the standard menu.
36:55It's not sold in Kyushu.
36:57This is good.
37:02I want it.
37:07It's a beef tendon flavor.
37:09It's really good.
37:11How do you come up with a new flavor?
37:13We have a meeting once a year to come up with a new flavor.
37:18We come up with a new flavor that is popular now.
37:21We come up with a new flavor that was popular in the past.
37:25We used to run a fan site in Jagarico.
37:29I made it with the fans of the fan site.
37:33Is this a fan site?
37:35This is a fan site called Jagarico.
37:38Is this a school?
37:40It's a school motif.
37:42How do you get in?
37:44Can anyone get in?
37:46When I first started, I wrote a request for Jagarico on the back of the cup.
37:54I was the first to be applied.
37:57I took an entrance exam.
38:01I wrote a request for a passionate feeling for Jagarico.
38:05I was the first to apply.
38:07We all read it and entered a passionate person.
38:11Is it a proper exam?
38:13It's a written exam.
38:15Does that mean you failed?
38:17Of course.
38:19There are people who write blank.
38:23I didn't want them to get in.
38:26Why did you make it a fan site?
38:29It's better to open the door to everyone.
38:32I wanted to make it a passionate group.
38:34I wanted to make it a gathering of passionate people.
38:37At that time, the number of homepages was increasing.
38:42It was called ROM.
38:44It was a group of people who just read.
38:47I didn't want people who just read to come.
38:52I wanted people who made Jagarico with me to come.
38:56I took the entrance exam.
38:58I wanted people who were passionate to come.
39:00I asked people on the site what kind of taste they wanted to eat.
39:08I also asked for a joke.
39:12I also asked for a handwritten character of Jagarico Kirin.
39:17I decided everything by voting.
39:20I also made a student council.
39:23You are very particular about it.
39:25If you are so particular about it, why don't you make it a fan site?
39:30I wanted to make it a fan site for people who really like Jagarico.
39:38I also held a real student council.
39:40I invited the president of the student council to my company.
39:44Did you hold a meeting like an office meeting?
39:46I held a meeting like an office meeting.
39:48It's a very particular event, but you can't join it easily.
39:53I couldn't join it, and I had to graduate for three years.
39:56Why?
39:58Will you leave the school?
40:00If you don't have a fever, you can leave it alone.
40:04I thought that new ideas and ideas would come out if I entered a new place.
40:12That's amazing.
40:13I'm convinced now.
40:15I think the weak point of the community is that if you only gather people who like Jagarico Kirin, the number of children will increase.
40:21There is a fever, but it will be a one-sided fever.
40:24But Jagarico Kirin is gone.
40:26Yes, that's right.
40:28Jagarico Kirin is gone.
40:31Jagarico Kirin has been abandoned.
40:33Did Jagarico Kirin disappear?
40:34It was abandoned.
40:35Jagarico Kirin disappeared because it was about to graduate.
40:37You should have left it.
40:40I have another fan site where you can join in a new app.
40:46There is no test?
40:48There is a test.
40:49There is a test.
40:50You're definitely going to squeeze it.
40:52That's right.
40:53That's right.
40:54But fever is important, isn't it?
40:56It's been 29 years since it was released.
40:59It is now considered invalid to win first place in the number of snacks sold.
41:06What is Jagarico's new attempt?
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43:08Morinaga.
43:10It's almost 29 years since it was released.
43:14It has won the first place in the number of snacks sold.
43:18It is considered to be a real thing.
43:21What is the new product of the absolute king Jagarico?
43:25In September 2023.
43:27We released a product called Jagarico Hosoiyatsu.
43:31Jagarico Hosoiyatsu.
43:33I don't use any puns here.
43:36Simple puns.
43:38That's true.
43:39Why?
43:40I don't use it at all.
43:43Why didn't you use it?
43:45I thought you would use it.
43:49I wanted to convey that it was thin.
43:53I wanted the target audience to buy it.
43:57So I named it Hosoiyatsu.
44:03Hosoiyatsu.
44:05Hosoiyatsu.
44:07Is it 55 pieces?
44:09It contains about 55 pieces.
44:11It took about four years to develop.
44:15Did it take that long?
44:16Why was it so difficult?
44:18Jagarico Hosoiyatsu was just thin.
44:21However, it broke, bent, and the texture was not good.
44:28It took four years to solve such problems.
44:32I will eat it.
44:33Thank you very much.
44:35You eat a lot.
44:42I see.
44:44It's delicious.
44:49It's delicious.
44:52Hosoiyatsu.
44:54There are two Hosoiyas in Japan.
44:57You are the type of person who explains a lot.
45:01There are many things.
45:03Is the cut of the package thin?
45:05It's thin.
45:07It's true.
45:08It's a little thin.
45:11It's a little thin.
45:12The silhouette is very thin.
45:15It's thin.
45:17Are all the silhouettes different?
45:20The giraffe is different depending on the product.
45:24I didn't know that.
45:26The name is also different.
45:28Is the name different?
45:29Yes.
45:30Does it have a name?
45:33What is it called?
45:34The salad is called JAGAO.
45:36The cheese is called RIKAKO.
45:38This is my father and mother.
45:40The butter is called JAGASAKU.
45:42JAGASAKU.
45:44JAGASAKU.
45:46The butter is called TARAKO.
45:48TARAKO.
45:50It's a version with JAGA and a version without JAGA.
45:54What is the name of Hosoiyatsu?
45:56Hosoiyatsu.
45:59I can't remember the name.
46:02Hosoiyatsu is not loved at all.
46:05Don't tell lies to Hosoiyatsu.
46:08Maybe it wasn't there.
46:10It's Hosoiyatsu.
46:12It's Hosoiyatsu.
46:13It's Hosoiyatsu.
46:14Then it's not connected at all.
46:17I'm sorry.
46:18Why did you make a thin type of JAGARIKO?
46:21At first, there was a research base in Utsunomiya.
46:28There was a candy contest for elementary school students.
46:32There was an idea that it would be fun if there was a thin type of JAGARIKO.
46:39So I started developing a thin type of JAGARIKO.
46:42I've been doing a lot of things other than thin.
46:46On the other hand, the woman in charge of the project at the time wanted a JAGARIKO that could be eaten without thinking about anything.
46:55I thought there was a chance to make it thinner.
46:59It takes four years to develop.
47:01That's right.
47:02It's about the same as what a child says.
47:05You can say anything to a child.
47:08When did you decide to release it?
47:10It took two years to release.
47:14Before the release, we had a second test release.
47:18The first time, we released it under the temporary name of Hosoiyatsu.
47:24I asked the audience what kind of name they wanted.
47:28They said Hosoiyatsu.
47:29I see.
47:30The simple one was good.
47:32At the second release, I asked if it was okay to really release it.
47:38I explained to them that it was a book release voting station.
47:41I don't think it's something Urugawa would listen to.
47:44I think it would be good to say it openly.
47:47I asked the audience if it was okay to really release it.
47:52The original goal was to get 10,000 votes.
47:54But we got 170,000 votes.
47:56That's how the book was released.
47:58I don't know if 170,000 votes is okay to really release it.
48:01I don't know what they want to hear.
48:03I wanted them to say it quickly.
48:06Finally, a message for the future.
48:10I did it when I was there.
48:13I wanted people from overseas to eat it.
48:18When I did it, it didn't go well.
48:21It wasn't easy to go overseas.
48:24It didn't go well.
48:26We didn't have a solid foreign organization.
48:31Now, the members have a solid organization.
48:34I'm doing my best to get people from overseas to eat it.
48:39I don't know if it will take 5 to 10 years.
48:42I want people from overseas to enjoy it, not just in Japan.
48:48I've been involved with Jagariko.
48:51I want people to grow with it.
48:57When I get older, I want people to remember what I used to do.
49:02I want people to grow even more.
49:05I want people from overseas to eat it.
49:09Jagariko is now a brand.
49:13It's an IP.
49:14We sell a lot of goods.
49:17I want people to enjoy Jagariko.
49:22I want more people to like Jagariko.
49:28It's time to say goodbye.
49:33Thank you for your time today.
49:35Thank you very much.
49:42You took a picture of the award.
49:44I got an award.
49:46Why Jagariko?
49:48This is the seed of the future.
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