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00:00Oh, hi boys!
00:02Hey, Willard in black, I love it!
00:04It's not black, but a lot of men are colorblind. It's okay, Goo.
00:09It's a deep olive!
00:10Yeah, it's a deep... I'm wearing the Olive Garden.
00:13There you go!
00:14I'm taking the tour of Italy today.
00:15No breadsticks, though, unfortunately.
00:17Not yet.
00:18It'd be a lot cooler if you had some.
00:19They're on the way.
00:20Yeah, no doubt.
00:21Willard and Dibs joining us from the Madden studio.
00:23Yeah.
00:24We miss them dearly.
00:25I do.
00:26Explain to me exactly where you guys are.
00:28Okay, so one way to answer that would be Pleasanton, California, right?
00:32Correct.
00:33That's one way to answer it.
00:34The other way to answer it, and there are many, is we are...
00:37First of all, we're out here for an event, and you're going to hear in less than a half hour
00:42from our guy Stan Bunger, who has authored a new book called Mornings with Madden.
00:46Dibs told you guys about that yesterday.
00:48This is a book launch party, among other things.
00:51But here's what I think our listeners would find really cool.
00:55We are what looks like from the outside at your just run-of-the-mill business park
01:00in Pleasanton, California.
01:02When you come inside, you realize that this has been a tailor-made John Madden compound
01:09where he and his family used to have weekly Sunday parties, and still do, by the way.
01:16Obviously, John no longer with us, to watch football, and that's it.
01:21And it is a huge compound, and it has all kinds of memorabilia,
01:26and the stage that they've set up, and the pictures that they have
01:30for the crowd that will be gathering for the presentation with Stan and Steve Mariucci
01:35and John's son, Joe.
01:38Not John, Sally.
01:40John's son.
01:41No, John's son.
01:42John's son.
01:43Right.
01:44Anyway, this setup is really, really cool, and not to be self-serving,
01:50but when you describe something like that, I'd like to invite our listeners
01:54to see what it looks like.
01:56It is on.
01:57I did a little walk with me on my Instagram story,
02:01so you can go to MT Willard and look at what it looks like inside
02:06and what John created for his family to sit and watch football together.
02:10Wow, that's pretty cool.
02:11And if you talk about a man cave, and Steini, you and I know Dana's Man Cave,
02:16and it's one of the great man caves in the East Bay.
02:19Take that man cave and times it by about 350,
02:24and you get John Madden's quote-unquote man cave
02:27with giant theater screens and every game on it, seating for 200,
02:32and studios to where you can produce content.
02:36And we actually are upstairs in the boardroom,
02:38which is a legitimate 16-seat boardroom.
02:41Boardroom, yeah.
02:42Multiple whiteboards and TV screens,
02:44so you could do whatever you wanted to do here in Pleasanton
02:48in the John Madden official, non-official compound.
02:52So that will be on Willard's IG.
02:54I'll be able to see that on your walkthrough there.
02:57It's already there.
02:58It's already there.
02:59I can't wait, man, because the other day my good friend 49er Frankie
03:02got mad at us on the crossover.
03:04Me, I guess Steini asked you, Willard,
03:07what did you watch last night, baseball or the football game?
03:10And this guy has four screens in his living room next to the big one
03:15with the theater chair, so he gets mad like,
03:18everybody should watch it all.
03:20I'm like, dude, nobody has 80,000 TVs like you.
03:23It sounds like Madden has it.
03:25Oh, my gosh, yeah.
03:26You could watch every sport and have some left over.
03:30No, actually, I agree with 49er Frankie to a degree.
03:34Normally I wouldn't do an either-or, Sunday night football
03:38and a major baseball game,
03:40but the spot where I do the Fox show on Sunday during that hour,
03:45that spot only has one TV plus we're so locked in on football.
03:49But I'm with him.
03:50I'm with him.
03:51I'm not above moving TVs around the house
03:53so that we can create a living room sports bar.
03:57Not at all.
03:58Did you guys catch any of the Kyle Shanahan press conference?
04:03Yes.
04:04Yeah?
04:05Yes, we did.
04:07What stuck out, if anything, because I was hard-pressed to find something?
04:11Well, for me it was four letters, and it was PTSD,
04:14and it was the idea of him still going through that PTSD
04:19and also what he talked about on fourth and one and stuff
04:23and how fourth and one is the hardest thing to defend
04:26and that play where Mahomes runs the lead option and Bosa crashes,
04:31and then next thing you know Mahomes is able to move the chains
04:35and all the rest of it.
04:36So the idea of the PTSD of that game for me was striking
04:41because Kyle Shanahan will never be over that.
04:43Even when they win this game, if they win this game,
04:46they don't get over that loss.
04:48And we're going to get into the Josh Dubow AP stat
04:53that he tweeted out about Kyle Shanahan's record in one-score games
04:56and where it ranks all-time among coaches who've had 40 or more games
05:01with one score or more.
05:04But this game for me is not about the monkey off the back.
05:08This one is maybe getting the sea monkey off the back,
05:11which is a tiny microscopic sea animal.
05:14This one for me is about getting right for the Niners,
05:17showing that you have turned the year around
05:19and doing things to Spagnolo's defense that you were unable to do
05:25the last couple of times.
05:27Dibs.
05:29Did you have sea monkeys?
05:31No, never did.
05:34Yes, I grew up in Marin, but, you know, I grew up very, very poor.
05:38The only pets we had were outside the house.
05:42They were either feral cats or rattlesnakes.
05:44We were not allowed pets.
05:47Actually, my siblings thought that I was the pet,
05:50and they treated me like a redheaded stepchild.
05:53So I never actually had pets.
05:55I don't get pets.
05:56Gotcha, gotcha.
05:59We were talking about this game earlier and, you know,
06:02must win, not must win, all those kind of things.
06:05The reason that, I mean, to me, why you really want to win this game
06:10if you're the 49ers is because if you don't,
06:13you're kind of back in the same spot you were against the Seahawks,
06:18where, well, now you've got to beat the Cowboys
06:22because you don't want to go into the break 3-5.
06:26I'm not worried about the Cowboys at all.
06:29They're going to, yeah, they'll beat the Dallas Cowboys.
06:31They will outclass them at every single position.
06:33Even off a bye week, Mark?
06:34The Cowboys are not a playoff team this year,
06:36so I'm not worried about them in the slightest.
06:40But, like, so I might see this weekend a little bit differently.
06:45I don't think it craters your season if you lose,
06:47but it's an incredible springboard if you win.
06:50Like, first of all, there's two sides to this.
06:52There's the mental side.
06:53There's the football side.
06:55The guys have basically stated it.
06:57Edward Warner said it.
06:58George Kittle said it.
06:59This game's different.
07:00They feel like they need to get over this hump.
07:03That speaks to a mental disadvantage they have,
07:06and it would be really good to shake that.
07:08But on the football side of it, you think about, like, okay, if you lose,
07:13then you've got to go beat the Cowboys, and you go into the bye,
07:16and you're still middling at .500.
07:19You win this football game, then you beat Dallas.
07:22Now you're sitting on the bye 5-3 with a three-game win streak
07:26and Christian's about to come back, and you're peacocking, man.
07:30You're as confident as anyone in the NFL.
07:33So, like, I think it's huge from that perspective.
07:36It's not a season ender if you lose, but it's an incredible springboard if you win.
07:41Yeah, I love that.
07:42And how much is that worth when you talk about the mental game, right?
07:46Who knows?
07:47But I told Matt Barrels and Stani and I had him on a couple days ago,
07:51there's no way a team that's 3-3 is playing with house money,
07:55but is house money in regard to opportunity, Willard?
07:58Because if you do exercise these demons over the Chiefs,
08:02and that propels you to 4-3, and you've got a team in Dallas
08:05that's kind of limping and not handling their business, you're right.
08:08You're 5-3, but damn, if I had to pick a foe for the Niners,
08:13it would be the Chiefs.
08:15So we could jar and get those juices going of, yeah, it's not a playoff win,
08:20but we took a situation in the regular season that presented itself.
08:24We can scratch some revenge.
08:26And, you know, like you said, we're 1-1 away from handling Dallas,
08:305-3 at the break, beat the Chiefs, let's go.
08:34And I think that it really, for me, lends itself more to the idea
08:38about maybe being the number one seed still overall, because Minnesota 5-0,
08:43I get it, and you are now, what, you're 3-3,
08:46so you are a full two and a half games behind them, plus the tiebreaker.
08:52So, yeah, Minnesota needs to fall back for you to catch them.
08:55But if you get to 5-3 at the break, then all of a sudden you're in a position
08:59where you can think about rattling off wins,
09:02and you still have a lot of tiebreaker wins for a playoff position.
09:05You've got Tampa, you have Green Bay, you have Detroit.
09:09So if you beat Kansas City, you feel like you still have a good chance
09:14for the number one overall.
09:15But if you lose to Kansas City and you're 3-4, even if you beat Dallas
09:19and you're 4-4 going into the bye, can you honestly think
09:22that you could be the number one overall?
09:24I don't think so.
09:25Maybe you could be the 2 or the 3, but I do think that it sets up
09:29your second half a little bit more in a difficult fashion.
09:33So, yeah, all those things, but it's, for me, more about the emotion
09:38of Kansas City, because you've lost to them four times in a row.
09:41And, guys, I had this trivia for Mark before.
09:44There's only one team that you've lost more games in a row to
09:48in the regular and the postseason than Kansas City.
09:51Do you know who that team is?
09:53Over the course of their franchise or over the course of...?
09:56Currently. The current losing streak.
09:58They've lost four in a row to Kansas City.
10:00I think I know.
10:01There's one team they've lost five in a row against.
10:03I like this. All right, you go first.
10:05Minnesota.
10:06Ska-da-da-da.
10:08I got it. Is that it?
10:09Ska-da-da-da.
10:10Give the bell, Grandy.
10:11Minnesota, buzzer.
10:13All right.
10:15How about Baltimore and the...
10:18It's an AFC team.
10:20It's an AFC team.
10:21Oh, it is.
10:22It's an AFC team, Goo.
10:23I got it.
10:24Yeah.
10:25Is it Baltimore?
10:26No, buzzer.
10:27Still buzzer.
10:28Goddammit.
10:29Okay, it is the...
10:33Say it.
10:35You won't get it, so we can do this.
10:37Yes, we will.
10:38Hold on.
10:39Bills.
10:42Broncos, Colts.
10:44Yes, exactly.
10:45Oh, I got it, and they just came and laid one on you last year.
10:49Mark, you said it.
10:50Oh.
10:51I just said it.
10:52It's the Colts.
10:53Minneapolis Colts.
10:54They've lost five in a row against the Colts.
10:55I was going to say Bengals.
10:56Yeah.
10:57Was it Colts and Wentz that came to Levi's on a rainy night like three years ago?
11:01Correct.
11:02That's right.
11:03And the Niners were awful in that game.
11:04Yeah.
11:05Wow, it's been a minute.
11:06The Niners have lost five in a row against the Colts.
11:08Yeah.
11:09The Colts.
11:10Wow.
11:11Explain that one to me.
11:13I mean, this is going back, I would imagine, to Peyton Manning's days.
11:16Right, and they haven't played them in the playoffs.
11:18Right.
11:19Unlike Kansas City, where you've played them, you know, four, twice in the playoffs.
11:21The Colts.
11:22You've played them, you know, twice.
11:23Otherwise, the Colts, you've only played them five times every four years, and, you know,
11:28one of those games, a couple of them were Peyton Manning, and you didn't beat Peyton Manning.
11:32So, yeah, it's a little bit of a weird thing, but, you know, Kansas City comes here with a four-game win streak,
11:39and so it feels a little bit like an emotional thing to get this one, to get the sea monkey off your back.
11:46Stiney, you were so excitedly optimistic to say Minnesota.
11:51That was funny.
11:52I thought I had it, Mark.
11:53Remember, they came and got their butts kicked in the playoffs at Levi's just five years ago.
11:58You know what?
11:59Yeah.
12:00I had regular season.
12:01Come on, Richard Sherman's interception.
12:02Oh, no.
12:03I had regular season.
12:04You're listening to 95.7 The Game, KGMZ FM.
12:06I'll take it.
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12:12I do have a serious question for you guys because there's about three questions on the Comcast business text line.
12:20Can we assume that where you guys are at is not open to the public?
12:25Well, it was.
12:27It's not anymore.
12:28It is sold out.
12:29Okay.
12:30Oh, so it's an event, though.
12:31It's an event.
12:32Wow.
12:33You can purchase tickets.
12:34It only fits about 150 to 160 people, but those tickets have been sold.
12:39Those people are on their way.
12:41Please do not come if you do not have tickets.
12:44Yeah.
12:45It is full.
12:46But do they have an event there every Sunday?
12:48No.
12:49No, no, no.
12:50So when I say they still do, this is literally where John and his family and I guess whoever else they wanted to invite on a weekly basis.
12:58Okay.
12:59But it was their family tradition.
13:01Yeah.
13:02And in his passing, the family has continued that tradition.
13:05Stein, if you want to come on down here after your show, I'm sure we could get you in.
13:10And if you want to rub elbows and see if you could get invited to a Sunday, that's on the table.
13:15But that's up to you.
13:16I don't know what kind of time you have today.
13:18Well, I know John Madden – we do have a – John Madden's son, I believe, went to Brown University.
13:25And I know I have a buddy who knows him really well.
13:29So I can – hey, I got strings and I can pull them.
13:32That was a little bit of a meandering connection.
13:35You know Dan Dibbley.
13:37Dan – it's Dan Day now – actually coached Joe Madden's son.
13:44And so like I walked in today, and Dibs I think has been here since 9 in the morning.
13:49Yeah, I got here early.
13:50Like schmoozing people already.
13:53You'll have a much quicker chance, Stein, if you just start being nice to Dibs.
13:57Yeah.
13:58Oh boy.
13:59I know.
14:00I don't like doing it either.
14:02Yeah, it's awkward.
14:03I just want to say this, guys, because I was thinking about it on the drive over.
14:06Like John Madden is in the all-time top 10 in three different arenas.
14:14If you look at the NFL coaching register, John Madden is number two all-time in win percentage.
14:21If you look at winning percentage for coaches who have more than 100 games, he's number one.
14:26So I don't think you can get to a top 10 in NFL coaches without including John Madden.
14:31And if you go to television broadcasters as analysts, you can't get past number one.
14:38You can't get past number one.
14:39I mean Dick Vitale, John Madden, whatever you want to do.
14:42Madden.
14:43And then if you go to video game eponymous, Stein, if I said it right, video game aficionados
14:51and video game people who are synonymous with their name, he's in the top one of that as well.
14:57What other human being is in the top 10 of three different arenas?
15:03Okay, I'm going to be honest with you, Dibs.
15:05I got a guy who I think could be that guy in four categories.
15:11Oh boy.
15:12Talk to me.
15:13Brad Gilbert.
15:16Okay.
15:17Talk to us.
15:18Player, broadcaster, instructor, and author.
15:26Top 10, Steini?
15:28Winning ugly.
15:29One of the most read tennis books in history that he wrote with Agassi.
15:34He has a free component though with the video game or the shoe, the Madden.
15:39I don't want to get into tennis talk.
15:42I love Brad Gilbert.
15:43Brad Gilbert is not a top 10 male tennis player of all time.
15:46Not even close.
15:47No, but what I'm saying is he has mastered four separate careers or professions almost.
15:57I don't know if that was the question.
15:59I've mastered four things.
16:00I'm really good at brushing my teeth.
16:05The scrambles I make in the morning are absolutely winning ugly.
16:10He's responsible for Andre Agassi's career.
16:16I know how to reboot my computer.
16:18In 82, he got as high as seventh in the world rankings.
16:24Actually, I'm making that up.
16:25I'm not sure.
16:26But Steini, and I love what you're doing, and I love Brad Gilbert.
16:32He sold me my last tennis racket, but he's not a top 10 all-time player.
16:38If you want to say he's a top 10 broadcaster, he's a top 10 tennis coach.
16:45I will give you that.
16:46It's kind of like the old thing, Steini, and you know the reference.
16:50If I talk about EGOT, the people who have the EGOT, Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony.
17:00It's called the EGOT.
17:01If you want to look at the people who have an actual EGOT,
17:05they have all four of those awards.
17:07That's what I'm talking about.
17:08And Madden is top 10 all-time as a coach.
17:11He's number one as a broadcaster.
17:13And in video games, I'm sorry, he's the GOAT.
17:17Why, if it's four letters, why if it's E-G-O-N-T, why would you not do GOAT?
17:25Why would you not do GOAT?
17:27Why would you not do GOAT?
17:28Why would you do EGOT?
17:30Because GOAT was already taken.
17:31It's an EGOT.
17:32Yeah.
17:33It's an EGOT.
17:34You don't have to like him.
17:36I'm out.
17:37I'm out on EGOT.
17:38Do your homework and see who's actually gotten the EGOT because among we actors and singers,
17:43that is the holy grail of acting and singing is the EGOT.
17:47I love it.
17:48Go ahead, Guru.
17:49No, Westbrook wanted to go again.
17:51Go ahead, Steini.
17:52Go ahead.
17:56I'm doing my Russell Westbrook.
17:57I apologize.
17:58I just tried to jump in, but I can't.
18:00I'm doing my Moses Moody right now.
18:02I'm trying to get mine.
18:04Did you hear us earlier?
18:05I'm throwing a curveball and I love you.
18:08Listen, I'm a nerd.
18:09I love commentators.
18:10I love watching the games back because of the back and forth that good commentators have.
18:16But the malarkey that came down with Tom Brady's 10% minority ownership and what he cannot do,
18:24he needs to resign and just say, Willard, I need to focus on my new gig, my new endeavor,
18:30which is the Raiders, but to not be able to have all that list of stuff that Burkhart and all the real ones have to do
18:38by being able to cover and sit down with the teams and this man can't even critique the refs or what have you.
18:44What are we really doing?
18:46Are we selling out to where popularity can be that big to where we want to hear Brady when we know he's really not even
18:55doing the core essence of the job?
18:57That makes my stomach turn.
18:59Well, I sort of felt like in the middle and I did hear that conversation on the lovely drive to Pleasanton.
19:06I heard that conversation and it was one of those where I'm like, Goo, you have a point,
19:12but then I don't know where it goes from there.
19:16You have a point.
19:17You're not wrong, but nobody is going to march with you in this protest.
19:23Wow.
19:24Do you know what I mean?
19:25Because it's sort of like donuts, man.
19:29They're not good for you.
19:31Willard, am I hating on Tom Brady?
19:33Am I hating?
19:34You should not put food in fried batter.
19:37You should not do that.
19:38That's bad for us.
19:39Let's go get 12 of them on Sunday morning.
19:42Nobody's going to not watch the game.
19:45Nobody's going to cry a foul about Tom Brady.
19:49And I don't even know.
19:51You know what I was thinking about listening to you guys?
19:53Do we really hear a lot of that?
19:55Do we hear analysts in NFL games?
19:58Sometimes they'll say we sat down with Stiney.
20:01Let's talk about criticizing the officials.
20:04Do you ever actually hear that?
20:06Do you hear Greg Olson?
20:08You might hear him be like, well, that was a head scratcher or boy, I didn't understand that one.
20:11You take Dee Williams Thursday night.
20:13If Brady was on that call, I think he would have went in on New York.
20:17It would have been hard not to, right?
20:18But what did we get from Herbst Street?
20:20What did we get to that end from Herbst Street?
20:22I don't understand that one.
20:23Yeah.
20:24Yeah.
20:25Boy, that's tough.
20:26I can't believe.
20:27I didn't think that would happen.
20:28Willard, you make some good points.
20:30Give me this.
20:31What if you're Burkhardt?
20:32Do you look at Brady?
20:33Again, not hating, but damn, it must be nice.
20:36You can just show up here two minutes before the thing.
20:39When I've had to be here anchored all week, you know?
20:42I don't know, man.
20:43Am I a hater, Dee?
20:44Do I sound like I'm hating on Brady?
20:46It's a little bit like the way they look at Trent Williams, who gets a day off every week.
20:51Trent Williams gets the veteran day because he is the veteran.
20:55And Tom Brady, he doesn't need to come in and grind like he grinds.
20:59And you know what?
21:00Burkhardt is so good that he can overcome Tom Brady not being in the production meeting.
21:06And he'll go back to Tom Brady and actually show him his notes
21:10and tell him exactly what he learned in those meetings.
21:14And, you know, Tom Brady is ultimately going to live and die and rise and fall
21:18based on what he does during the game.
21:21And so far, he's not been great.
21:23He'll get better.
21:24He's getting better.
21:25Stiney's right.
21:26He's Tom Brady.
21:27So as much as people tune in for broadcasters, and I don't believe that people actually do,
21:33you tune in because it's football, man.
21:35Yeah.
21:36This is not like the NBA where, oh, you know, I need Van Gundy and I need Mark Jackson
21:41or I need Doris Burke.
21:42The NFL, you could have AI doing it, not Allen Iverson.
21:47Probably will.
21:48Or Andre Iguodala, but you could have robots calling the game
21:51and people would still be like, yeah, I love this.
21:54I think people notice.
21:55You know, you hear people really loved Romo when he started.
21:58Now people don't like Romo.
22:00You might have opinions about it, but Dibbs is right.
22:03I don't know anybody who's like, I'm not watching.
22:05I'm not turning the game on.
22:07Stiney, real quick, what about where you guys are at?
22:09Madden and Summerall were a staple.
22:11Like they added to the – are you saying those times are over?
22:14For sure.
22:15Different era.
22:16I'd also say that the broadcasters can add to it, but in a way almost can't subtract.
22:24Like you can be annoyed by them, but you're not watching the game.
22:29Right.
22:31And if Burkhart has any sort of like jealousy toward Tom Brady, he's in trouble.
22:39He's in trouble.
22:40He's Tom Brady.
22:41Well, we're going to be listening.
22:42I know that.
22:43Oh, yeah.
22:44And from the Madden studios in Pleasanton, it's going to be a fun –
22:49I see a live audience.
22:51Stan Bunker is sitting right next to us already right now.
22:53Stan is telling what's up.
22:55This is one of those –
22:56Legend.
22:57Stiney, we would like you to –
22:58That's a legend.
22:59Yeah, we would like you to leave now.
23:00Dude, Hall of Famer.
23:01They got him on right.
23:02You see that?
23:03Hall of Famer.
23:04You can go, Stiney.
23:05Hey, Stan.
23:06How you doing?
23:07I've admired your work for a long time.
23:08That's what we do, Stan.
23:09Yeah, no.
23:10I'm just an author now.
23:11I don't even know how many books I've sold.
23:13I'm hanging out with actual working radio talk people.
23:16That's right.
23:17The other man.
23:18The other man, Stan.
23:19All right.
23:20Well, listen.
23:21You guys have fun out there today.
23:22We'll be listening, and we'll catch up with you tomorrow on 95.7 The Game.