Stefan Molyneux
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How can we verify if humans are inherently self-interested? Are all actions "selfish"? What are the implications of this if it's true?

How do I deal with a neurotic personality where i always do the opposite of what's good for me?

Yes, what the hell is wrong with you?

Thoughts about doing a meetup in Thailand?

Your thoughts on long-term permanent space colonies will it ever be possible?

Do we REALLY need more "relationship experts"? In the context of people not REALLY changing, we are just hanging on, more often than not. And all these experts created a trend were a lot of people are more interested in the theory of being "healed" and "ready" instead of just fricking going out like normal people. In the end don't we just make it as we go? all this expertise people are developing (lol) from 2min clips are just a new and different kind of apathy and esoteric judgements.

Two words: thank you

I’ve never heard you analyse the affects of outsourcing. Globalisation is the number one conspiracy, IMO. You focus a lot on fiat currency and the welfare state but I think outsourcing is more causative to the human condition. Such a simple trick! We’re given the final product but denied the growing and the making of the product. So simple yet devastating.

After a long break from family due to dysfunction, abuse, addiction and infidelity, how do I self prepare to visit a parent who is gravely ill or attend the funeral. I haven’t had contact with my parents or siblings in over a year due to there inappropriate lifestyles choices that I refuse to allow my daughters to bare witness to.

Do you still support fluoridation despite the NTP fluoride neurotoxicity report showing that fluoride lowers IQ?

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00:00Good morning, everybody. Hope you're doing well. Questions from Facebook, a couple other places.
00:05How can we verify if humans are inherently self-interested? Are all actions selfish? What are the implications of this if it is true?
00:16I mean, yeah, this is a basic question. I don't mean by basic, I don't mean simple. It's a great question.
00:22It comes to the Kantian question of is an act virtuous if we benefit from it?
00:27In other words, selflessness or acting against your own benefits for the benefits of others is considered by Kant to be a higher virtue.
00:36So if a man helps a woman move, right, she wants to move, he helps her move, but in the hopes that they kiss over pizza and beer afterwards,
00:47then he's not helping her move. He's trying to get a kiss or whatever, right?
00:52So he's not doing the move for helping the woman. He's doing the move to help himself and therefore his action is ignoble.
01:00Now, it is a logical impossibility for everyone to act to the benefit of others and not themselves or against their own interests
01:09because somebody has to be the recipient of that generosity, right?
01:15And so if the man should help the woman move just to help her move because he's a nice guy and not with the expectation of a kiss or anything like that,
01:27or even if he helps her move with the expectation of pizza and beer afterwards, right, that's not doing it for the thing itself.
01:32So if he is helping her move in order to get something and he shouldn't do that,
01:39he should simply help her move without expecting anything in return, then that's a universal, right?
01:48And if it's a universal, then she should not want him to help her move because she would want him to get whatever benefit is best for him,
02:00and it's not best for him to help her move with no benefit to him.
02:04So he has to want to help her move because that's what's beneficial to her,
02:09but she has to not want him to help her move because that's what's beneficial to him, right?
02:16Because he doesn't want to do it for the thing itself.
02:18So it becomes completely entangled and impossible.
02:21And basically the whole do things for the benefit of others at your own expense is just a giant, it's a long con.
02:27It's just a giant con because somebody has to be in the collecting side, right?
02:32Somebody has to be in the collecting side, right?
02:36I mean, the sort of foodie call that I talked about in the show recently about women who say that they want to,
02:44that they go on a date with a guy just because they're hungry and want to go out and not because they want any romantic interest from him.
02:51So they're taking resources from the man under false pretenses, right?
02:54If they said, listen, I'm never going to date you, but take me out for dinner,
02:57he would probably be like, well, no, right.
02:59Unless he thought he could change her mind or something like that.
03:03So if the woman accepts a man's date, but no intention of dating him, then that's selfish, right?
03:10So she should want to go out with him because she enjoys his company.
03:14She is potentially attracted to him or is attracted to him and so on, right?
03:19So are all actions selfish?
03:22Well, for this answer, I mean, there is, of course, UPB, which I'll, you know, you can go and read about that at freedom.com slash books.
03:31The book is free and you should definitely read that.
03:33Or if you want a shorter version, you can go to essentialphilosophy.com,
03:36which is a short book that I wrote on fundamental philosophical questions such as free will, virtue, are we in a simulation and so on.
03:44Essentialphilosophy.com is also free.
03:46So we have philosophical answers, which is all.
03:53I mean, it's all that is not compelled is voluntary, right?
03:56All that is not compelled or fraudulent is voluntary.
04:01And all that is not compelled is not evil.
04:08Right.
04:09So, but we just look at evolution, right?
04:12So if we look at evolution and we say, OK, so if there is a truly selfish gene, could it evolve to the high level of conceptual ability that human beings possess?
04:26Well, no, it's completely impossible for genetics to be purely selfish in the human realm.
04:32Right.
04:34So the fundamental argument goes like this.
04:37For human beings to develop the extraordinary brains that we have, unmatched, unparalleled anywhere in the universe that we know of.
04:46For human beings to develop the complexity of our brains takes between 20 and 25 years of development.
04:54Right.
04:55In other words, and certainly for the first five, 10 years, children require massive amounts of resources and devotion and dedication and so on.
05:05Right.
05:07So if human beings were just innately selfish, in other words, they just went for, say, sexual pleasure and food and rest or whatever, then they would not invest like we would not invest in our children.
05:22And if we don't invest in our children, they would never evolve to develop the complexity of brains that they do.
05:29So there has to be something in human beings where devotion to children is part of our makeup.
05:38We would never ever, ever have developed.
05:41I mean, if you look at the creatures that don't care for their young, they always tend to be more primitive.
05:46And the more primitive the creature, the less it cares for its young, because the young develop quickly and therefore end up less complex, of course.
05:53And our brains are the most complex things in nature, outside of the tax code.
05:59And the only way we're able to develop these highly complex brains is because our parents are devoted to our interests to a large degree in general.
06:09So the concept of selfish only arises out of the complexity of our brains.
06:17And the complexity of our brains only arises out of the fact that human parents are willing to devote 15 to 25 years of their life to raise their children.
06:30So there's absolutely no way that human beings are just purely selfish, only for their own.
06:38Their selfishness is not a penumbra that includes anyone else.
06:42So no, the fact that our brains exist is because we devote, as parents, huge amounts of time, effort, interest and resources into the raising of our children.
06:55I mean, just look at language, right?
06:56Language takes a long time to teach children.
06:58It takes a long time to learn.
06:59And the only reason we have the language, the only reason we have the word selfish, is because people are not purely selfish.
07:05Language develops over thousands and thousands and thousands of years, and it's transmitted from parent to child.
07:13And it's not like it's super fun teaching your kids language.
07:18We exist, we communicate, we have language, we have concepts, and therefore we have devoted parents, and therefore actions that are purely selfish do not fundamentally...
07:33I mean, obviously there's exceptions, right? Rare exceptions.
07:35But no, there's no such thing as all actions being selfish.
07:38If they were, then we wouldn't have brains, the brains that we have.
07:42How do I deal with a neurotic personality where I always do the opposite of what's good for me?
07:46Well, you have to figure out why you would have something in your mind that makes you want to do things that are the opposite of what you claim is good for you.
07:55Right?
07:57So, if you grew up with, say, tyrannical parents, where you could not disagree with them without fear of violence or escalation,
08:06then suppressing honesty, suppressing your true self, suppressing resistance is a survival mechanism, right?
08:16And so, if as an adult you say, oh gee, but me suppressing my true self and my opposition is bad for me,
08:25well, but it wasn't bad for you in the past, right?
08:28It was essential for you in the past to suppress rebelliousness against people.
08:33Like, I wrote this in one of my novels, The God of Atheists, that it's pretty horrifying for children when you realize how little truth can be spoken in a young life,
08:43whether at school or at home or at church, just how little truth can be spoken in a young life.
08:48So, most of dysfunctional parenting is forcing children to lie.
08:54And so, lying becomes a survival mechanism and it's good for you, right?
08:59Now, when you're an adult, lying all the time is bad for you because it means that honest people don't want to be around you
09:05and dishonest people will be drawn to you, so your life is just bad, right?
09:09As a child, if you have tyrannical parents, not standing up for yourself is a survival mechanism, is therefore good for you,
09:15but when you become an adult, not standing up for yourself becomes dysfunctional.
09:19So, you're not doing the opposite of what's good for you because that's just self-lacerating, it's just attacking yourself.
09:27You are applying a survival mechanism that is no longer necessary, right?
09:33Because you don't have to have dysfunctional people in your life as an adult.
09:36As an adult, all of your relationships are chosen.
09:39As a child, very few of your relationships are chosen, some friends and so on,
09:43but even your friends are somewhat limited by your parents because if you have highly dysfunctional parents,
09:48then your friends probably don't want to spend too much time at your house or people don't want to spend too much time at your house
09:52and you may have bad habits for dealing with functional people if you're raised by dysfunctional people in the same way
09:57that if you're raised speaking a certain language, you can't speak languages different.
10:01So, it's not that you're just doing the opposite of what's good for you,
10:04you have to have sympathy for what was necessary as a child and give yourself permission to change the environment as an adult.
10:11This is why I've always said, you don't have to have dysfunctional people in your life.
10:14I don't care if they're parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, whoever.
10:18You don't have to have dysfunctional people in your life.
10:20If you choose to have dysfunctional people in your life, it will have a ripple effect on your personality
10:24because your childhood will never end.
10:27Now, dysfunctional people, maybe you can talk to them, maybe you can reason with them,
10:30maybe you can go to family therapy, maybe you can fix things or whatever.
10:33But if you can't, if they're just relentlessly dysfunctional and abrasive and abusive and nasty and undermining and gaslighting and all of that,
10:40then if you keep dysfunctional people in your life and you grew up with dysfunctional people,
10:45you're signaling to your mind that childhood will never end.
10:49It doesn't matter if you have a choice or not, dysfunctional people are going to be in your life.
10:52So, childhood is never going to end.
10:55So, you did not choose to be abused as a child, but if you're an adult and you continue to have dysfunctional or abusive people in your life,
11:03then you are choosing to be abused.
11:05Now, if you are choosing to be abused, then your childhood is never going to end.
11:08So, you have to look around and say, if I'm doing that which is bad for me, then it must be good for someone else.
11:14And that someone else is probably dysfunctional.
11:16And if they're in your life, you're conforming with prior survival mechanisms when it's no longer necessary.
11:22So, it's not the opposite of what's good for you.
11:24It's just outdated survival stuff.
11:27I asked people what questions you have.
11:30Somebody said, yes, what the hell is wrong with you?
11:33I mean, I included this one kind of as a joke in that people are, I mean, obviously, you know,
11:39people are quite frustrated and angry with me.
11:41Some people are quite frustrated and angry with me, which I sympathize with and I truly understand.
11:44I mean, it is difficult.
11:46Moral advancing is difficult, right?
11:49There's no way.
11:50I've sort of been thinking about this, that I'm just sort of a fleshly transitory tool used by eternal concepts to get out into the world,
11:57to escape through the amplification of my mouth and tongue,
12:03to escape from Plato's realm of eternal forms through my fleshly body out into the world for all time.
12:09I know it's kind of an analogy, but my life doesn't in particular matter.
12:12What matters is that the universal eternal concepts of virtue and truth and beauty are transmitted through me,
12:19at which point I can be discarded on death.
12:22But the ideas, the arguments, the concepts, the eternities will be here forever
12:27and will do their beautiful work in the world over time.
12:30And so I do understand that what I argue for, what I have proven,
12:35what I have established, the experts I've interviewed, the articles and the data that I've gathered,
12:39is very, very upsetting and disturbing to a lot of people. Absolutely.
12:42So when I say you don't have to have dysfunctional people in your life,
12:45and there's a price to be paid for having dysfunctional people in your life,
12:48all the dysfunctional people in your mind get mad at me.
12:51And if you're a dysfunctional person, you don't want me saying this to your victim.
12:54So I understand that. I get that.
12:56Thoughts about doing a meetup in Thailand.
12:59I love Asia as a whole, and it would be fun.
13:05I don't have any particularly short-term plans for anything like that.
13:09Your thoughts on long-term permanent space colonies. Will it ever be possible?
13:12Sure. I mean, we would have had them long ago.
13:16Everything that we want is barred by coercion.
13:22I would love to go into space. I would love to see the curve of the Earth.
13:26I would love to walk on the moon. I would love to do all of these things.
13:29All of this would have been possible except for coercion.
13:33There's a story that Elon Musk tells about when they wanted to do their launches,
13:38and someone in the government was like,
13:39well, you have to study on whether parts of your rocket might fall and kill a shark,
13:44or what if it goes underwater and explodes and causes hearing damage to fish and whales,
13:49or whatever, right?
13:50So it's just this sort of endless political neurotic holding back, right?
13:56So there's an impulse in humanity to push forward,
13:59and then there's an impulse to anxiously hold back, right?
14:02So progressivism versus conservatism, but not in the political sense, right?
14:05There's a desire for things to be familiar,
14:08and then there's a desire to push forward,
14:10and this should be left to the free market, right?
14:14And the people who get neurotic and weird when things push forward are because
14:18it's because they have rooted their identity in that which is familiar
14:21rather than that which is rational.
14:23And again, I have nostalgia for the old ways.
14:26I understand all of that.
14:27I'm doing some research for my new novel,
14:32and I had to look up a beach in Canada from 30 years ago,
14:39and I feel a real nostalgia for the old world, the old times.
14:42I wrote an entire book about this called Just Poor,
14:46which is people seek the familiar, but the familiar is kind of stagnant.
14:50And then when things progress, some people are eager for change,
14:54and some people are nostalgic for…
14:57My daughter's a little bit like this.
14:58Every time they change anything in the environment,
15:01she misses the old thing, and I completely understand that.
15:04It makes sense, right?
15:06But all of this progress versus a yearning for the familiar,
15:11all of this should be left to the free market,
15:15because when people get control of the state,
15:18then those who want to drive things forward in their view,
15:21you can think, of course, of the great leap forward
15:23of Stalin's industrialization of Russia,
15:26that he has ripped people off the farmlands
15:28and threw them in factories.
15:30And the same thing happened under Mao,
15:33that they moved things forward using the power of the state
15:36too fast, too violently.
15:38Of course, the death count is absolutely appalling
15:42in these two slaughter fests of Soviet Russia and communist China.
15:49And so that's propelling people forward through the power of the state.
15:53Terrible.
15:55Holding people back through the power of the state,
15:57anything you want to do requires 15,000 different levels of approval
16:01from various bureaucrats and so on,
16:03and laws that you can't figure out, and so on.
16:06It's a money grab, of course.
16:07I get all these consultants who will help you.
16:09But yeah, we would have all of this stuff.
16:12We would have all of this stuff,
16:14and we'd have cures for cancer,
16:17we'd have all of this stuff,
16:19but there is so much anxiety about the new,
16:26which is natural, but it shouldn't be combined
16:28with the power of the state, of course, right?
16:31All right.
16:32Somebody said,
16:33Do we really need more, quote, relationship experts?
16:36In the context of people not really changing,
16:38we are just hanging on more often than not.
16:40And all these experts created a trend
16:42where a lot of people are more interested in the theory
16:44of being healed and ready,
16:46instead of just freaking going out like normal people.
16:48In the end, don't we just make it as we go?
16:50Make it up as we go, I assume.
16:51All this expertise people are developing
16:53from two-minute clips,
16:54it's just a new and different kind of apathy
16:56and esoteric judgment.
16:58Well, okay, so how many times have you seen
17:01relationship experts saying your relationship,
17:04I mean, it's true in the Christian world
17:05and other religions as well,
17:06but in this sort of general psychology world,
17:09how many times have you said
17:11that dysfunction in relationships
17:15results from immorality?
17:17It results from immorality.
17:18It results from people not being honest
17:20and virtuous and courageous and direct
17:22and instead they are false, lying, manipulative,
17:25gaslighting, which is lying, right?
17:27Falsehood.
17:28And so how many people have you heard
17:31who talk about, like, you know,
17:32men are from Mars.
17:34No, men are from Mars, women are from Venus.
17:36It's different kinds of love language.
17:37Women are looking not just for solutions,
17:39but just to be listened to
17:40and blah-de-blah-de-blah.
17:41It's all just manipulation, right?
17:43So what I bring to the table and always have,
17:46and you can get my free book,
17:47Real-Time Relationships, The Logic of Love,
17:49freedomain.com slash books.
17:50You really should check it out.
17:51It could save your life, like literally.
17:54So what is missing most from relationships
17:58is virtue, right?
17:59So you've heard me say this in call-in shows.
18:01I've been together with this woman
18:02for X amount of time and say,
18:03oh, what was it that drew you to her?
18:07She was cute.
18:08She was funny.
18:09She was whatever, right?
18:10Engaging.
18:11We shared similar interests.
18:12It's like, okay,
18:13but love is our involuntary response to virtue
18:15if we're virtuous.
18:16So if you claim to love someone,
18:18the only thing that you can love about them
18:19as an adult is their virtue.
18:21There's nothing else that you can love about someone
18:23other than their virtue.
18:26That's it.
18:27So if you want to love and be loved,
18:28you must be virtuous.
18:32So, I mean, again,
18:34some religious people will talk about this
18:36with their credit,
18:37although some of the ethics
18:38might be slightly divergent from UPB,
18:41but how many times do you see this, right?
18:44That what's lacking is virtue,
18:46that we can only love virtue.
18:48Because if we want a pair bond
18:51over the course of a life,
18:52well, if you love a woman
18:54just because she's sexy,
18:55well, is she still sexy when she's 80?
18:57No, she's not, right?
18:58If you love a man
18:59because he's hardworking and wealthy,
19:02well, he's going to end up working less
19:04as he ages,
19:05and money can come and go,
19:07as we all know.
19:10So what is it,
19:12what is the one thing
19:13that is going to hopefully grow
19:14over the course of your life
19:15is virtue, right?
19:16I mean, I started off
19:17as a pretty amoral guy.
19:19I think I'm a pretty good guy now
19:20for the most part.
19:21Not perfect, obviously,
19:22but pretty good.
19:23And that is something
19:24that I sort of aim to improve
19:26and increase over time.
19:28So I hear what you're saying
19:29about all these people
19:30talking about these relationship stuff,
19:33and I'm like, okay,
19:34but when people are saying,
19:36well, I'm having trouble in my marriage,
19:37and I say, well,
19:38what is it that you admire?
19:39What are the morals
19:40you admire in your wife?
19:41It's a long pause, right?
19:43Two words, thank you.
19:44You are absolutely welcome.
19:45I appreciate that.
19:46If it's any consolation
19:47or if it's any, you know,
19:49hands across the water stuff,
19:51I thank my brain
19:52for coming up with this stuff.
19:53So I will pass the thanks
19:54along to my brain
19:55that generates this stuff.
19:58I've never heard you analyze
19:59the effects of outsourcing.
20:02Globalization is
20:03the number one conspiracy
20:04in my opinion.
20:05You focus a lot on fiat currency
20:06and the welfare state,
20:07but I think outsourcing
20:08is more causative
20:09to the human condition.
20:10Such a simple trick.
20:11We're given the final product,
20:13but denied the growing
20:14and the making of the product.
20:15So simple yet devastating.
20:16That's very true.
20:17That's very true.
20:20If you look at globalization,
20:24of course,
20:25there is some economic advantages
20:27to allow free trade
20:29across different economic systems.
20:31You get that.
20:34However, when you ship in goods,
20:35you also ship in bacteria
20:36and viruses, right?
20:37So how advantageous was it
20:39for Europe to open up trade
20:41with the Far East
20:42given that it brought
20:43the Black Plague to Europe
20:45and killed a third
20:46of the population
20:48and came in waves
20:50decade after decade, right?
20:52Destroyed most of Europe.
20:54Was that worth it
20:55to get some goods
20:57from the Far East?
20:58Nope.
20:59If you look at
21:01the economic benefits
21:02of, say, trade with China,
21:05and then you look
21:06at the economic costs
21:07of, say, SARS
21:11and, of course, COVID,
21:12the relatively recent COVID thing.
21:14If you look at the illnesses
21:16and diseases that are brought in,
21:18is it worth it?
21:19If you look at
21:22the settling of the New World
21:24and you say,
21:26OK, well,
21:28the natives received smallpox
21:30and Europeans received
21:32syphilis and smoking, right?
21:34If you just look
21:36at the death count,
21:37was it beneficial?
21:39Now, again, I'm not saying
21:40that force should be used
21:41to ban these things,
21:42but there's no point
21:44looking at something
21:45without looking at
21:47the costs, right?
21:49So it is true
21:51that you get
21:53some cheaper goods,
21:54but you also get
21:57viruses and bacteria
21:59as a back and forth
22:00with the goods, right?
22:01So in a free society,
22:03there would be liability
22:04for the introduction of pathogens
22:05to a domestic population.
22:06I don't know how that would affect
22:07overseas trade,
22:08but that would be quite a liability
22:09to put it mildly, right?
22:11So there is, of course,
22:13also the problem
22:14that outsourcing is a way
22:15to cover up an increase
22:16in bureaucracy.
22:18So when you start to get,
22:19and I know a lot about this
22:20because I worked for many years
22:22in the software field
22:23devoted entirely to environmental
22:24and health and safety regulations,
22:26which, in my view,
22:27are excessive.
22:29So when you start piling up
22:31things like
22:34excessive regulations
22:36and you start piling up
22:37things like unions
22:39where you have to bow
22:41to the union because
22:42you can't bring in
22:44alternate workers, right?
22:46So unions, of course,
22:47collective bargaining,
22:48you can have the power to quit,
22:49but then the owner of the business
22:51should have the power
22:52to hire new people, right?
22:53To get around that, right?
22:54Otherwise you're just held hostage
22:55and you have to give in to everything.
22:57So excessive unionization demands
22:59that are enforced
23:00at the point of a gun
23:01and regulations
23:02have driven up the price
23:03of producing things
23:04as well as a hypercomplicated tax code.
23:06So it's driven up the price
23:07of producing things
23:08and normally that would drive
23:10significant inflation
23:12and then people would get mad at that
23:13and they would reduce
23:15the bureaucracy
23:18and complications of doing business.
23:20But what happens instead
23:22is you open up trade
23:23with people
23:24without those regulations
23:25and people without
23:26those protections, right?
23:27So it's sort of famous
23:28that the carbon reduction
23:30in the West
23:31is very expensive
23:32but then you just
23:33outsource to China
23:34which is building
23:35like a coal-fired power plant
23:36every week
23:37or something like that, right?
23:38And building these cities
23:39to nowhere
23:40just to drive up economic numbers
23:41and I assume
23:42transfer a lot of money
23:43to people.
23:44So what happens
23:47is your economy
23:48gets clogged up
23:49with hyperregulation
23:50and complicated taxes
23:51and excessive
23:52worker demands
23:53and also the liability shields
23:54of corporations.
23:56So all of that
23:57gets really
23:58slows down
23:59and then you say
24:00well rather than making
24:01our own system more efficient
24:02we're going to go to
24:03less efficient systems
24:04and trade with them.
24:05And that brings down
24:06the price of goods
24:08but it also
24:09brings down the tax base, right?
24:10So if you clog up
24:11your own industry
24:12it becomes completely impossible.
24:14This happened in Canada
24:15under free trade
24:16that a lot of companies
24:17went to Mexico, right?
24:18They had fewer regulations
24:19and so on, right?
24:20And I mean it's okay
24:22to have a lot of regulations
24:23from a purely economic standpoint
24:25if you have a lot of regulations
24:26in a place like Mexico
24:27but you can bribe your way
24:28around them
24:29that's a lot cheaper
24:30than having complicated regulations
24:31where that's not really possible.
24:33I'm not obviously
24:34advocating for bribery
24:35I'm just saying that
24:36from a simple economic standpoint
24:37it is more efficient.
24:39So what happens
24:42is when you outsource
24:43because your own system
24:44is becoming more complicated
24:46and coercive
24:47you outsource
24:48to other jurisdictions
24:49you then take the jobs
24:50that would have been domestic
24:51and you move them overseas
24:53which hollows out
24:54your tax base
24:55and your birth rate
24:56of course, right?
24:57Because if men can't get jobs
24:58women don't tend to want
24:59to settle down with them, right?
25:01So yeah, I agree with you
25:02it's all terrible stuff.
25:04All right.
25:06Somebody writes
25:07after a long break from family
25:09due to dysfunction
25:10abuse, addiction and infidelity
25:12how do I self-prepare
25:13to visit a parent
25:14who is gravely ill
25:15or attend the funeral?
25:16I haven't had contact
25:17with my parents or siblings
25:18in over a year
25:19due to their inappropriate
25:20lifestyle choices
25:21and I refuse to allow
25:22my daughters
25:23that I refuse to allow
25:24my daughters to bear witness to.
25:26I'm really really sorry
25:27about your family
25:28it's very sad
25:29it's very sad
25:30you know
25:31it's actually pretty easy
25:32to have a wonderful
25:33and lovely
25:34and positive family life
25:35it's really not that complicated
25:37just be nice
25:38be nice, be curious
25:39help people
25:40and family life is wonderful.
25:42So you say
25:43dysfunction, abuse, addiction
25:44and infidelity
25:46maybe I'm missing something
25:49and I'm certainly happy
25:50to be schooled
25:51and corrected on this
25:52as in all things
25:53but
25:56why would you go back?
25:58Does this
25:59somebody who's been
26:00corrupt and abusive
26:01do they
26:02gain virtue
26:03on their deathbed?
26:07You know
26:08a lot of
26:09what passes for
26:11quote wisdom
26:12in society
26:13is
26:14exploitation
26:15from abusers
26:16right so
26:17ah you gotta make restitution
26:18with your parents
26:19blah blah blah
26:20okay
26:21you gotta
26:22you gotta
26:23connect with your parents
26:24if you don't go see your parents
26:25you'll regret it
26:26for the rest of your life
26:27well
26:28my father
26:29died years ago
26:30I have not seen my mother
26:31in like a quarter century
26:32and
26:33my life is
26:34significantly better
26:35thereby
26:36I mean
26:37I wasn't able to visit
26:38my father's funeral
26:39because of COVID
26:40but
26:41I wouldn't have gone anyway
26:42I mean
26:43somebody doesn't
26:44become moral
26:45because they're dying
26:46it should be
26:47the dying's person
26:48the person who knows
26:49they're gonna die
26:50it's their job
26:51to reach out
26:52to those they've harmed
26:53and make peace
26:54and amends
26:55right
26:56but
26:57if it is for the comfort
26:58of the dying
26:59at the expense
27:00of virtue and integrity
27:01then
27:02I don't see
27:03the plus
27:04I don't see the plus
27:07if your parent
27:08who is gravely ill
27:09if your parent
27:10if your parent
27:11contacts you
27:12apologizes
27:13and so on
27:14I mean
27:15it's not ideal
27:16because it should have happened
27:17before they were dying
27:18but
27:19that can have some value
27:20and so on
27:22but if that hasn't happened
27:24you know
27:25there's no
27:26there's no big change
27:27with people
27:28I mean
27:29I'm old enough now
27:30that I've seen
27:31a fair number of people
27:32pass over
27:33join the choir invisible
27:34pass over to the other side
27:35or whatever
27:36and
27:37they don't
27:38they don't get better
27:39they don't get wiser
27:40there's no depth
27:41you know
27:42this idea
27:43that the long dormant
27:44virtuous soul
27:45starts peeking out
27:46at the end of a corrupt
27:47and immoral life
27:48no
27:49it's like saying
27:50that a smokeless lungs
27:51magically heal
27:52on their deathbed
27:53it's like
27:54nope
27:55no the soul doesn't heal
27:56there's no magic
27:57on the deathbed
27:58that turns someone
27:59into a good person
28:00and
28:01so
28:02is it for your benefit
28:03or the benefit
28:04of the dying person
28:05if it's for the benefit
28:06of the dying person
28:07at your expense
28:08I don't see the case
28:09but again
28:10I'm happy to be
28:11schooled on this
28:12of course
28:13as in all things
28:14do you still support
28:15fluoridation
28:16despite the
28:17NTP fluoride
28:18neurotoxicity report
28:19showing that
28:20fluoride lowers IQ
28:21yeah
28:22I don't know
28:23that I've talked
28:24much about
28:25fluoridation
28:26over the course
28:27of
28:28my
28:29career
28:30as a
28:31public intellectual
28:32I
28:33I don't know
28:34that I've talked
28:35much about
28:36fluoridation
28:37I mean
28:38I follow the data
28:39if it seems to be
28:40good for you
28:41I can see reasons
28:42for it
28:43if it lowers IQ
28:44then
28:45it's obviously
28:46a negative
28:47so
28:48it's kind of a
28:49I don't know
28:50that I ever
28:51was like
28:52I don't ever remember
28:53being a big supporter
28:54of fluoridation
28:55but of course
28:56if it says
28:57that fluoride
28:58lowers IQ
28:59then that's
29:00obviously a bad thing
29:01so it seems
29:02kind of aggressive
29:03like I'm responsible
29:04for fluoridation
29:05or something like that
29:06alright
29:07yeah
29:08I'll stop here
29:09because I've got a show
29:10in about
29:119-8 minutes
29:12so I will see you
29:13on the Sunday show
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