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00:00This program is brought to you by DAREGA KAITON NEN, the book that changed the world in a day.
00:17Who will be our guest today?
00:19Today's guest is Mr. Man Eido from Shizuoka City, Shizuoka Prefecture.
00:24Wow, it's quite old-fashioned.
00:26What's that on the second floor?
00:28That could be a yaribeya.
00:32It could be a yaribeya for the Nyankees.
00:35The first floor is a regular bookstore, but the second floor is...
00:40It doesn't look like a yaribeya at all.
00:43It looks like fun.
00:44Huh?
00:45It's a live house.
00:46A live house?
00:48Will this be okay?
00:50Aside from music, you can also have a comedy live.
00:55But since it's a throw-in, there's a maximum of 30 people per week.
01:0130 people, so it's full.
01:04What about the money for the throw-in?
01:07You can get it.
01:08All of it?
01:09Should I go?
01:10What are you going to do?
01:12It's a throw-in, right?
01:13It's a throw-in, so...
01:14There's a way to make a little more money.
01:16You're going to get a lot of people.
01:18You're going to get a lot of trouble.
01:21This week's book is...
01:25The National Tax Service.
01:27It's our enemy.
01:30You're a bad guy if you say it's an enemy.
01:32I hate you.
01:34You're in my mouth.
01:36The National Tax Service.
01:37I've heard of it.
01:38You've heard of it?
01:39I've heard of it.
01:40You've heard of it?
01:41It's a clean book.
01:47I was nervous.
01:49It's a clean book.
01:53Hello.
01:55I'm a former member of the National Tax Service.
01:58You said it was an enemy.
02:01I'm Jiro Ueda.
02:02Mr. Ueda.
02:03Nice to meet you.
02:04Is there anything you want to hide?
02:07Me?
02:08Why are you dressed like this?
02:10There are people who have been arrested.
02:16If you talk on TV, you'll be hated.
02:20You'll find out what's going on.
02:23Have you been arrested?
02:25Yes, I have.
02:26How many years has it been?
02:27It's been 15 years.
02:28What's the role of the National Tax Service?
02:32The National Tax Service.
02:35It used to be a conspiracy.
02:37It's called the National Tax Service because it's guarded.
02:42Is that the general rule?
02:44Do you wear a circle on your head?
02:47Yes, I do.
02:48You wear a circle on your head.
02:50I think that's where it comes from.
02:51I see.
02:52Director Itami Juzo became famous.
02:55Maru-san couldn't use the word Maru-san anymore.
03:00Oh, I see.
03:01It became too famous.
03:02The word Maru-san is no longer an English word.
03:04It's no longer an English word.
03:06It's a nuisance.
03:08But the director made Maru-san famous.
03:13I'm grateful for that.
03:17Is there a part of the movie that made you think,
03:21if you do something bad, this will happen?
03:23Yes, there is.
03:24More than that, as a shadow,
03:28I did my best.
03:33Director Itami Juzo made our existence clear.
03:38I did my best for the sake of justice.
03:43But for the general public,
03:45all the salarymen pay taxes.
03:49So, it's not fair to the people who embezzle money.
03:54I wish I had a little more support from the salarymen.
03:58You want more support.
04:01I have a high desire to win.
04:03Even though I'm disguised like this.
04:05So, Maru-san is not a bad thing.
04:09Yes.
04:10We think we're doing bad things.
04:12We're doing it for the country.
04:15I don't think I've seen a lot of Maru-san's books.
04:18Is this a complicated thing?
04:21Can I write about the reality?
04:23I've received a lot of criticism.
04:26Why are you so reckless?
04:28In the first place, there are two main tasks for the national tax office.
04:31One is the national tax office's main task.
04:34The second one is the national tax law.
04:36And the secret of the national tax law should not be disclosed.
04:40You're talking a lot.
04:42That's why I don't write about other people.
04:46But you want people to know about Maru-san's activities.
04:50It's a waste.
04:52You're asking for recognition.
04:54No, it's for everyone.
04:56It's for the younger generation.
04:58You're breaking the rules.
05:00Maru-san's secret
05:02To become Maru-san, you have to go to the national tax office.
05:06That's right.
05:07You have to be a national tax officer or a tax officer.
05:10You have to become a public official.
05:13I was chosen from among them.
05:15When you join Maru-san, do you think you're good?
05:18I'm persistent and energetic.
05:20You're persistent and energetic.
05:22You're like a saint.
05:24I don't know.
05:28How long have you been with Maru-san?
05:31I've been with Maru-san for 17 years.
05:33When you join Maru-san, do you think you're good?
05:39The best thing about joining the tax office is that you can learn a lot of things.
05:45I'm a tax officer now.
05:47It's very useful at that time.
05:50You can learn a lot of things.
05:55On the other hand, Maru-san is energetic and persistent.
06:00You're energetic and persistent.
06:03How do you become energetic?
06:05I've never been a tax officer.
06:08I see.
06:09How do you know where to go?
06:15I look at the tax information and newspapers and magazines in the national tax office.
06:20I also look at the stores that are about to go bankrupt.
06:26You do that, too.
06:28That's the basic of the tax office.
06:30Do you always look at the newspaper to see if it's going to go bankrupt?
06:38That's right.
06:39When we talk about sales on TV, we say that it's going to go bankrupt.
06:46When you see that, do you feel suspicious?
06:49I'm suspicious.
06:51I always check the newspaper to see if it's going to go bankrupt.
06:56I always check the newspaper to see if it's going to go bankrupt.
07:02You can tell if it's true by comparing it to the newspaper.
07:06It's about whether it's true or not.
07:10Do you say that because it's on TV?
07:13Of course.
07:14You've already confirmed it.
07:16I've confirmed it.
07:17You know it.
07:19There's nothing to say about sales.
07:22When I walk around the city and see that there's a queue, I take a note of it.
07:28Is it a ramen shop?
07:30Is it Ichiran?
07:32I check it to a certain extent.
07:34If I think it's going to go bankrupt, I start with what kind of newspaper it is.
07:38I can calculate it in my head.
07:41I've been trained.
07:43If there's a line like this, I know how much a ramen costs.
07:46I know the annual income of the day.
07:48I can calculate it in my head.
07:51If there's a line like this, I know how much a ramen costs.
07:55I've been trained.
07:58That training is scary.
07:59It's dangerous if a celebrity wears an obi.
08:02Kawashima-san or Rabbit.
08:06I know how much a ramen costs.
08:10I've been trained.
08:12I don't think celebrities know.
08:13It's normal for celebrities to come in.
08:18That's why it's not a big target.
08:20It's not a big target in the game industry.
08:22It's more of a cost issue.
08:25It's not a matter of sales.
08:30It's not a matter of sales.
08:33It's a matter of tax investigation.
08:34Sales is a matter of selling.
08:37It's a matter of paying for the cost of furniture.
08:41It's a matter of paying for the cost of furniture.
08:46If you say,
08:47If you say,
08:50How much do you think you're doing?
08:52It's almost out.
08:54Is that so?
08:55It's almost out.
08:56It's almost out.
08:57It's almost out.
08:59It's almost out.
09:02It's almost out.
09:03If you say it's out, it's good for the country.
09:07It's almost out.
09:08It's not a good enough bad news to go wild.
09:14It's not a bad enough bad news to go wild.
09:15So, what do you do in that case?
09:16So, what do you do in that case?
09:17I'd call the agency.
09:19I contactively told them that we were playing in the agency.
09:21I told them that we were playing in the agency.
09:24I told them we'd try calling them back.
09:28It's a waste of time walking around the ring.
09:36What about shows in the past?
09:37What about shows in the past?
09:37Was there a case where you were surprised to find out how much money was hidden?
09:41There was a case where I found 100 million yen in cash.
09:43100 million yen?
09:44You found it in cash?
09:45Yes, I did.
09:46Where did you hide it?
09:48I hid it in a warehouse where I kept my artworks.
09:52How did you find out about it?
09:55It's not my case, but my senpai's case.
10:00It's a company in Tokyo, but I found a lot of weird money in Hakata.
10:03I knew that there was money hidden in Hakata.
10:07So I did a forced search in Tokyo.
10:09I found the place and the key.
10:12I took the cash and entered the warehouse.
10:15It was an artworks warehouse.
10:17There was a security guard there.
10:21I couldn't enter the warehouse normally.
10:22I even heard the alarm.
10:25There was cash in a rubber band.
10:28I used a rubber band to stop the cash.
10:31That's not good money.
10:33What is it?
10:35The money in a rubber band is from the bank.
10:39The money in a rubber band is from the sales.
10:43That's what we think.
10:45If you take off the rubber band, it will be found out.
10:47That's right.
10:48But the rubber band won't be found out.
10:50Because you don't know the source.
10:52But there's no one like that.
10:53No one.
10:54There's no one like that.
10:55That's why it's like this.
10:58The person who did a bad thing has to leave it in the bank.
11:00Yes.
11:01That's where the money will be found out.
11:02There are many things that can't be left in the bank.
11:04Can you see the money in the rubber band?
11:07If you investigate it, you can see it right away.
11:10That's why you can't hide it.
11:11You can't hide it.
11:13You have to be careful.
11:14You're the only one who can't hide it.
11:19You only took the cash, right?
11:22The eyes in the sunglasses are shining.
11:25That's because it's small.
11:27Is there a rule for this?
11:31Yes, there is.
11:33It takes about a year and a half to catch the target.
11:41Even if you get the answer in a year, it won't come out.
11:46It doesn't take that long.
11:48How many do you run at the same time?
11:49Of course, I run a few at the same time.
11:52But there are a lot of misses.
11:54I'm going to miss it.
11:56Are you in a hurry?
11:58Of course.
12:00But it's a good thing for the country.
12:03That's right.
12:05If you run with five people, you can practice a lot.
12:13If you don't answer one question in a year, you'll be called a thief.
12:18People call me a salary thief.
12:20The person above you?
12:21Yes.
12:23Have you been told that?
12:25I've been told that when I haven't cleared it yet.
12:28I've been a salary thief for 14 years.
12:31I've been caught about 10 times.
12:33I've been caught about 2 times in 3 years.
12:35That's not true.
12:37Of course, there are times when I'm a salary thief.
12:40I'm mentally depressed.
12:43You mean, please get rid of me.
12:46If you're a salary thief for two years, you won't be evaluated.
12:51I can't say that.
12:53You've been a salary thief for two years, so you don't have to be a salary thief.
12:59I'm a salary thief.
13:01You're a salary thief.
13:03I'm a salary thief because you're not good at it.
13:05I'm a salary thief because you're not good at it.
13:09The answer is...
13:11I've been found a salary thief of 500 million yen.
13:14Do you know what a reality festival is?
13:16I don't know.
13:17It's a financial festival that lasts a year.
13:20Is it an international festival?
13:22It's the same as a financial festival.
13:24For example, if the interest rate is 300,000 yen, you can buy 10 million yen for 9.7 million yen.
13:30If you get 10,000 yen in a year, you can pay back 10 million yen.
13:35That's possible.
13:36It's not possible now.
13:38Is it a tax measure?
13:41It's like a tax evasion product recognized by the state.
13:44You can buy it anonymously.
13:47You can buy it anonymously.
13:49You can buy it without putting your name in the bank.
13:54If you spend 9.7 million yen, you can make 300,000 yen.
13:58There are people who do that a lot.
14:00But the biggest thing is...
14:02There's a certain amount of money in 10 million yen.
14:06It's hard to hide it.
14:08It's like a piece of paper worth a donation.
14:11If you try to hide it, it'll be in a book.
14:14If you put it in a bookshelf, you can't find it.
14:17It was used a lot.
14:19It was recognized at one point.
14:20It doesn't have a name, so you don't know who bought it in the bank.
14:24But it's used so randomly.
14:28Marusa asked me to give a nickname to the person who came to buy it.
14:34It's a system called nickname management.
14:37For example, if a fat bearded old man comes,
14:42I'll give him the name Magoro.
14:45And you'll write it down?
14:46I'll write it down.
14:47I'll put a stamp on it.
14:49Whether it's a man or a woman.
14:51Height and weight.
14:53This person bought 500 million yen.
14:56The banker will leave it to you.
14:58For example, if a bald old man comes,
15:01I'll give him an octopus.
15:02It's a real thing.
15:03It's a real thing.
15:05It's a real thing.
15:07It's a year-end sale.
15:09I'll pay you back in a year.
15:12I'll leave it to you.
15:16It's a year-end sale, so I don't know when it'll come.
15:19It may not come in half a year.
15:21I'll leave it to you for half a year.
15:25I'll leave it to you.
15:27Kumagoro is...
15:29It's like Kumagoro.
15:32Kumagoro's height, weight, man or woman.
15:35I'll leave it to you.
15:37It's a two-layer stamp.
15:40You'll leave it in front of the bank?
15:42I'll leave it in front of the bank.
15:44I'll leave it in front of the bank until the shutter closes.
15:48I'll leave it in front of the bank for six months.
15:50Six months.
15:51Did you get it?
15:52Kumagoro came.
15:55Did Kumagoro come?
15:56I followed him.
15:57He was the president of a construction company in Tokyo.
16:00But there's always someone like Kumagoro.
16:03I'll leave it in front of the bank.
16:05Did you call him?
16:07No, I didn't.
16:08I followed him all the way to his house.
16:10I looked up who he was.
16:12But I didn't think it was a bad idea.
16:15That's amazing.
16:17I'll leave it in front of the bank for 100 people.
16:19That's amazing.
16:20Really?
16:21Yes.
16:22It's really amazing.
16:23Please admit it.
16:24It's really amazing.
16:26I'll leave it in front of the bank for 6 months.
16:29I'll leave it in front of the bank for 6 months.
16:31Did you tell your family about your job?
16:35Yes, I did.
16:36Did you tell Mr. Maru?
16:37Yes, I did.
16:38Is that okay?
16:40I had to tell them where I was working.
16:44I left at 7 a.m.
16:46It was past 10 a.m. when I got home.
16:48I had to leave on Monday.
16:49I had to leave on Sunday.
16:51My mom said,
16:52What is he doing?
16:54You have to tell them that you're Mr. Maru.
16:57I did.
16:58There are a lot of people who want to see you work.
17:00I often work when I'm not home.
17:02Did you ever get scolded by your wife?
17:05Did you ever get scolded by your wife?
17:07I'm Mr. Maru.
17:09Did you ever get scolded?
17:10No, I didn't.
17:11Did you ever get a tax evasion?
17:13No, I didn't.
17:14I don't have time or energy.
17:16You don't have time or energy.
17:17You're a busy man.
17:18I don't have time or energy.
17:20Did you tell your family that you're Mr. Maru?
17:22I had to tell them.
17:24My family would be surprised.
17:26When I was healthy, I rarely ate at home.
17:31How did your children react to that?
17:33When I was young, my children called me Mr. Maru.
17:40I don't know why, but you're kind to me, Mr. Maru.
17:45It's like a public opinion.
17:49It's hard.
17:52It's natural to be sensitive.
17:55But if you don't go back to the public office, people will doubt you.
17:59That's right.
18:00I don't get paid much.
18:03You don't get paid much, do you?
18:05No, I don't.
18:06I'm a public official.
18:08However, the tax is a little higher than the general public office.
18:12I don't think it's as high as Chiba.
18:14It's a little higher.
18:16It's dangerous, isn't it?
18:18It's dangerous.
18:20It's dangerous, isn't it?
18:22If you're a public official, people won't notice you.
18:25Do you get caught?
18:26I'm not good at getting caught.
18:28But if I'm persistent for half a year...
18:30I've seen him before.
18:33Have you ever been caught?
18:35Yes, I have.
18:36What kind of situation is that?
18:38I have no choice but to be stupid.
18:39I'm going this way, too.
18:41I have no choice but to run away.
18:43But if I do that, half of the people in the company will find out.
18:48That's the worst.
18:50Then you won't get paid again.
18:54But do you have a strong sense of camaraderie?
18:56I'm doing a hard job.
18:59I think I have a strong sense of camaraderie.
19:01But I don't know where the information will come from because it's a secret.
19:06I have a colleague in the next department.
19:11If you go behind me, I'll close the documents.
19:15Don't get close to me.
19:17That's what I'm going to do.
19:21We're a team of four or five people.
19:26If you stop the information there, you'll never be caught.
19:30What if there's a traitor?
19:33If you notice, close the documents.
19:35Be careful, everyone.
19:37Don't go behind me.
19:39You're the enemy.
19:41Where's your sense of camaraderie?
19:43If you know so much about tax, don't you think you can do it?
19:48Of course.
19:54Let's go to the 5th floor.
19:56If you ask me if I can do it or not, I have a sense of camaraderie.
20:00You have a sense of camaraderie.
20:02If I do it, it's over.
20:04If you do it, it's over.
20:06I don't have a sense of camaraderie.
20:08I'm glad I was in the third class.
20:10You were the strongest in the last few minutes.
20:16It's time to wrap up.
20:18What do you want to say in this book?
20:20I'm working for justice and fairness.
20:26I don't want to be hated.
20:28I want you to look at me with a little more warmth.
20:32I think it's okay if the light shines on me.
20:35I want to go to the point where I'm popular.
20:38I want to be popular.
20:40I don't want to be popular.
20:42I don't want to be popular.
20:46I'll give you an obi.
20:48I stopped hardcovering so as not to hide a single yen in this book.
20:52I published it in a book.
20:54Let's go to Morita.
20:56I've been talking for a few minutes.
20:58I don't think you've noticed our deviation.
21:00It's not a big deal.
21:02I'm going to change my mind.
21:04I'll tell you one thing.
21:06I think you'll be able to see it if I shoot it.
21:09Someone will definitely see it.
21:11I think it's checked.
21:13That's a lie.
21:15I'll tell you the truth.
21:17I'm going to cut it a little bit.
21:19I'm going to get serious.
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