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00:00Mr. Kawabayashi, today's guests are a bit different from usual.
00:03Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
00:06It's the first time for these people to come to our show.
00:09Yeah, it's the first time for us to have this many guests.
00:13Thank you for having us.
00:14Please, please.
00:15We're waiting for you.
00:19Thank you for having us.
00:21Thank you for having us.
00:22Yes, today's guests are former top athletes who served as commentators and casters.
00:30Thank you for having us.
00:31Thank you for having us.
00:33Tonight's guests are...
00:36The first Asian to win three Olympic gold medals.
00:43The judo legend, Mr. Tadahiro Nomura.
00:48One more point to go! Match point!
00:51Table tennis, singles in the All Japan Championships.
00:54He has won ten times in the history of table tennis.
00:59Tokyo Olympic gold medalist, Mr. Jun Mizutani.
01:04And...
01:07He won the J-League Best Eleven three times.
01:12His play style is full of fighting spirit.
01:15He played a key role in his defense.
01:19Former Japanese soccer player, Mr. Tomouchi Maki.
01:24He led Kinomaru during his career.
01:29Now, he serves as a commentator and a caster.
01:33These are the three former top athletes.
01:36What a cheeky guy he is in the interview.
01:40He's trying to appeal to the referee.
01:44What do you think of that?
01:46Do you think so?
01:48Top athletes' passion for table tennis is exploding.
01:52And...
01:54I'm not just talking about the J-League.
01:56I'm not just talking about the J-League.
01:59The interviewer, Mr. Kuro, has just found out about the J-League after his retirement.
02:03I want him to be naked.
02:06Who would do that?
02:08Mr. Mizutani wouldn't do that.
02:13Naked talk variety, Achikoji Odori.
02:17Let's get started.
02:20I can't believe it.
02:24First of all, Mr. Nomura.
02:27He won three gold medals in a row in the Olympics.
02:33He didn't participate in the Olympics in a row.
02:36Of course, but he's been doing his best all the time.
02:40He's been doing his best all the time, but sometimes he loses.
02:45He's definitely winning.
02:48He's definitely winning.
02:51Is it a different way of winning?
02:53Is it a different way of winning?
02:57In order to win at this important time,
02:59you have to be mentally and physically strong.
03:02Some athletes are so strong that they can't even do the peak.
03:06Some athletes are so strong that they can't even do the peak.
03:10If you do this, you can match the date of the tournament.
03:14Honestly, I don't know how to do it.
03:17If you do this, you can't win.
03:20I'm so scared that I can't sleep the day before the game.
03:24Even the third tournament, Atene, is scary.
03:28The first, second, and third tournaments.
03:31Even the domestic tournaments, I can't sleep because I'm scared the day before the game.
03:35I can only sleep for three hours.
03:38I'm sorry, but I'm afraid the venue will collapse tomorrow.
03:41I'm sorry, but I'm afraid the venue will collapse tomorrow.
03:44I'm so scared of the game.
03:48There are important tournaments throughout the season, right?
03:54Is it the same for all the tournaments?
03:57I'm the exact opposite of what you said.
04:00I can't help it if I don't want to do it.
04:03I can't help it if I don't want to do it.
04:07I can't help it if I don't want to do it.
04:10I can't help it if I don't want to do it.
04:13Mr. Mizutani, what kind of person are you?
04:16I'm the same as Mr. Nomura.
04:19I don't want to play.
04:22Is that so?
04:25I've been playing for 10 years.
04:28I've been playing for 10 years.
04:31Mr. Akino is a positive person.
04:34I don't want it to be a bad day...
04:37Mr. Nomura is not positive.
04:40Of course he is not.
04:43I want to be battlesprout.
04:46I see this in the players who were at the Olympics.
04:49I see this in the players who were at the Olympics.
04:52I'm surprised that all Olympians are very strong.
04:55I want to retire without a game.
04:58I wanted to retire without a game.
05:01On the contrary, he's strong because he thinks he's winning.
05:05He's strong.
05:06He's going to push himself to the limit, and even if he loses, he's going to win.
05:11That's amazing.
05:11He's got a great rebound mentality.
05:13But you two are getting closer and closer to the match, right?
05:18Do you ever feel like you're going to lose?
05:27Judo is a day-to-day sport now.
05:30But back then, it was a day-to-day sport.
05:32If you went to a weight-loss event, there were a lot of rivals.
05:35They were all on a diet, so their weight was the same as their underwear.
05:39But they were all foreigners, and their bodies were so strong.
05:42It looked like they were strong.
05:43So I was like, you guys should all fail at weight-loss.
05:47Of course.
05:48I think so too.
05:50I was feeling like I was going to lose.
05:53I was so scared.
05:55But at the end, the moment I got on the tatami,
05:56right before I got on the tatami, I got a kick.
06:00You got a kick.
06:01After the first match,
06:03you know you can win the match.
06:06You know you can win the match.
06:08That's what you learn in the first round.
06:11If you think you're good,
06:13you can sleep in between the first and second rounds.
06:16At first, you can sleep for about two hours.
06:18You can sleep in between the first and second rounds.
06:21You don't sleep there?
06:22You can sleep there?
06:24At the venue?
06:25That's amazing.
06:26That's amazing.
06:27When I first joined the agency,
06:30there were three stages.
06:32In between the first and second stages,
06:33Hanawa and Akimoto were sleeping.
06:36I woke up right before my turn,
06:38and I won a gold medal.
06:39That was so cool.
06:42That's on a different level.
06:43It was the Olympics.
06:44It was Hanawa and Akimoto.
06:45It's embarrassing to compare the agency and the club.
06:47I woke up right before my turn,
06:49and I won a gold medal.
06:51I shook my head and I won a gold medal.
06:52You can't do that at a weight-loss show.
06:54It was the Olympics.
06:57I was shining and I could see it.
06:59It's the same.
07:00Mizutani, where did you switch?
07:02You were so nervous.
07:03It was the same until I couldn't sleep.
07:06I thought I was a different person.
07:09I couldn't sleep during the London Olympics.
07:11I had to drink to sleep.
07:14I drank and slept,
07:16and the results were bad.
07:18I thought I should quit.
07:19Were you stuck on your turn?
07:22Because you couldn't sleep?
07:22I was in a training camp.
07:23I was in a training camp for about a month.
07:26I couldn't sleep.
07:27I was so nervous.
07:30When you're in a good mood and you're not feeling well,
07:33do you realize how light your body is?
07:37I think it's the mental part.
07:40Sports is all about the mental part.
07:43I feel like I'm broken when I'm in a big match.
07:48Do you train to be in a good mood?
07:52It's experience.
07:53If you have a lot of experience, you'll get stronger mentally.
07:57Recently, I've seen mental trainers.
08:01I've seen them, but I don't think they're fighting for the Olympic final stage.
08:07I think they're just a group of people who don't know anything about the Olympics.
08:11I think they're just a group of people who don't know anything about the Olympics.
08:15You don't know anything, do you?
08:16You have a little bit of a junk in your heart.
08:20That's true.
08:22It's like a school desk.
08:23For example, you're a positive, right?
08:26In soccer, you're 3-0, and you have about 10 minutes or 5 minutes left in the second half.
08:35Do you think you can win until the very end at that time?
08:39I think so.
08:41I've had that kind of experience.
08:44I've actually played that kind of game, and I've scored two points there.
08:48There's also a reversal game.
08:50The most important thing about soccer is that when you open up, it's the most loose.
08:55So I really don't know until the last 5 or 10 minutes.
08:58You won't give up until the whistle blows.
09:01I'll never give up.
09:03Do you want to go to the P.K. yourself?
09:04I want to go.
09:06So there's a roulette in judo this time, right?
09:10If I was standing there with that, I'd definitely think, come to me.
09:15I asked Nobunaga, what was it like to be a judo player at that time?
09:17I don't think he'd like it.
09:19I don't think he'd like it at all.
09:22After all, he's that kind of player.
09:24There are times when you see four P.K.s, right?
09:28Yes, there are.
09:28Do you think it's okay for me to be the last one?
09:30No, rather, the fifth one is the one that decides the most.
09:34There are people who apply for it, and there are directors who apply for it.
09:37I basically apply for it myself, and I'm usually told to calm down once.
09:44It's different. The atmosphere is different, isn't it?
09:46Even if it's an important free kick or P.K., I'm told to take advantage of it.
09:51I calm down once, and then I calm down again.
09:54I take a deep breath once.
09:57How do you fix it when you fail?
10:00It also depends on the position.
10:01I have to hold down the opponent's ace in front of the goal.
10:04If I block it with one play, I'll get two or three points.
10:08I have to finish it there.
10:11You have to finish it.
10:12You've been training for a long time, haven't you?
10:14That's right. I've been training for a long time.
10:18What kind of training do you do as a mental trainer?
10:22That's what Shota Ohtani recently said.
10:26He said he had a lot of goals.
10:28He said he had a lot of goals, and he said what he had to do for those goals.
10:30So the way you approach it as a mental trainer is different.
10:35I'm more of a self-deceiver.
10:39You're going to talk to yourself.
10:41That's right. I'm going to trick myself into doing things I can't do.
10:46I was told to take a deep breath.
10:49When I saw that, I was sure the athlete was taking a deep breath.
10:53Before a big game.
10:55I'm sure you'll do it in front of the P.E.K.K.A.
10:56I'll do it.
10:58We should do it when we slip.
11:01At the Sanmao store.
11:03It's too late to do it after you slip.
11:06Before it happens.
11:08Before the episode.
11:10The tempo is getting worse.
11:11Wait a minute, Mr. Sanmao.
11:13That's why I said I'd do it.
11:16He looks like he's going to slip.
11:18I think it's important to know that you're feeling stronger than your opponent.
11:23During the game.
11:24Self-determination is very important.
11:26Table tennis players are very self-determined.
11:29Table tennis is very tense, isn't it?
11:33In a quiet place.
11:35Even if I go to a hot spring, I get nervous at the match point.
11:40I get nervous when I want to score a goal, but I get stiff.
11:44I'm very nervous.
11:45And it's a game that changes by 0.0 millimeters.
11:50When you hit the net, you apologize.
11:54What do you apologize for?
11:56It's a manner.
11:57It's a manner.
11:59I'm an athlete.
12:01It's a game.
12:02Do you really think you're sorry?
12:05No, I don't think so.
12:07I think it's good.
12:08For example, when your opponent misses a service, you say you're sorry.
12:14I can't believe you two say you're sorry.
12:17I'm sorry for someone who says that after scoring a goal.
12:23I'm sure it's different.
12:24It's a culture, isn't it?
12:27I can't believe you're a soccer player.
12:29You're trying to appeal to the referee that you're foul.
12:33What's wrong with that?
12:36It's not fair.
12:40During the game, it's a sport where you can't get out of it for 0.01 seconds.
12:47You can't stop concentrating from the beginning to the end of the game, can you?
12:53When Shinba says, wait, I'll shake it once when I get back to the starting line.
13:00It's a series of aerobic exercises, so I'm concentrating all the time.
13:06I don't look at the opponent's body.
13:08For example, I don't look at his eyes, arms, or legs.
13:13It's a close distance, but I look at the whole thing.
13:18That's amazing.
13:20You said you were Tsumoda this time, right?
13:22Tsumoda is good at throwing Tomoe.
13:25But you can throw Tomoe, right?
13:27If you're good at throwing Tomoe, you should be careful about it.
13:30Why is that?
13:31That's what I'm trying to explain.
13:34He's originally a 52-kilogram athlete.
13:37His rival is Japanese, and he dropped him to 48kg.
13:41He's never dropped his weight.
13:43After he dropped his weight, he won the world championship three times in a row.
13:46Most of the time, he throws Tomoe.
13:49This time, he threw Tomoe at the Paris Olympics.
13:51The stronger you get, the more you throw, the more variations you get.
13:56Tsumoda has been throwing Tomoe all the time.
13:58Why?
14:00Please explain.
14:02I don't know.
14:04I don't know.
14:06We're in the same position.
14:08But that's how good he is.
14:13Even if you're thrown, you'll watch the video and think about how to deal with it.
14:19Of course, even if you throw Tomoe, you'll have a lot of ideas.
14:26Even if you fail to throw Tomoe, you'll be able to connect it to your next joint technique.
14:32This is the Tomoe-thrown arm cross.
14:36It's just this pattern, but it's got a lot of variations.
14:41Like now, Nomura-san is really tired.
14:46Why do you decide to throw Tomoe?
14:49I can't say why.
14:52Only Tsumoda-san can say why.
14:56If Nomura-san says so, I can understand why.
15:03Mizutani-san, when you commentate, is there anything you can't answer?
15:11Now, as commentators and casters, these three have been dragged to various places.
15:18What about Kuno, who didn't understand during his time as a commentator?
15:23There are times when the question itself is a little off-topic.
15:28And there are times when I'm asked for sympathy for something completely different.
15:32In those cases, I'm the type to match it.
15:35I can't deny it. I can't say, no, that's wrong.
15:38It's good to play now so as not to get hurt.
15:42That's right. When a commentator asks a question that's completely off-topic,
15:46I say, no, that's wrong.
15:48There are a lot of difficult techniques, right?
15:51There's a famous technique called Chiquita.
15:53Yes, yes, something like this.
15:55There's a part where you just have to say Chiquita.
15:57I can understand a little bit.
15:59It was a Chiquita for a while.
16:02I think there are a lot of Chiquitas around me.
16:05I remember that.
16:08I say Chiquita for something completely different.
16:10I have no choice but to say it was a Chiquita.
16:13If you look at it from our point of view, it's Chiquita.
16:15You can tell if it's Chiquita or Chiquita.
16:17But I'm sure the viewers will think it's Chiquita if I say Chiquita.
16:21That's why I say it's Chiquita.
16:23That's my style of commentary.
16:25For example, if you're told on social media that you don't understand Chiquita,
16:29Don't you think you know that?
16:31I think so.
16:33There are a lot of people like that.
16:35I don't know anything about table tennis.
16:37That's what I'm saying.
16:39But then my fans will help me a lot.
16:41Because they understand me.
16:43The commentator said he was going to match it.
16:45What I value in commentary is
16:47I'm saying that we're going to hit each other's opinions in the commentary.
16:50On the contrary.
16:52Soccer doesn't have an answer.
16:54There are opinions on the offensive side and the defensive side.
16:56There are times when we bump into each other.
16:58The player behind me thinks this way.
17:00But the player in front of me thinks this way.
17:02I'll give you a lot of plans.
17:05So when Honda Keisuke and I do commentary,
17:07I can't help but argue.
17:11I think this is how it is.
17:13I think this is how it is.
17:15But the fans may not like it.
17:17I don't like it.
17:19But this position looks like this.
17:21It's fun to talk about sports.
17:23When it comes to commentators,
17:25There are a lot of commentators for soccer.
17:27There's a lot.
17:29There's a gap.
17:31Let's go with this kind of character.
17:34I get excited when Matsumoto is talking like Matsuki.
17:36Hey, don't introduce people without a tension.
17:38I don't have a commentator.
17:41There are people who comment on episodes.
17:43What I'm thinking about right now.
17:45We drink alcohol together in the living room.
17:47The feeling of eating food.
17:49I could see it all in the comment.
17:51I see.
17:53He's not talking about difficult things.
17:55And I include the content in the commentary.
17:57I get excited when it comes to soccer.
17:59I don't know how to say this, but if it was a professional soccer channel, it would be more like that.
18:06You're working on a proper plan, aren't you?
18:10Yes, that's right.
18:11Do you have a plan for a show like Day Day?
18:14Yes, I do.
18:16You're dribbling with all your might.
18:19I'm doing it properly.
18:21What kind of stance are you thinking of?
18:30I'm thinking about how the MC is doing it.
18:36Really?
18:37I'm looking at the system.
18:40Like soccer.
18:42MC is like this.
18:45Then Makino's movement is like this.
18:48But I thought I was dribbling alone.
18:52I thought I was doing a bright dribble.
18:55I dribble a lot.
18:57I dribble a lot.
18:59I'm not talking much, so I think I'll shake a little.
19:04Soccer is useful, isn't it?
19:07That's right.
19:09There are a lot of people behind the commentator.
19:12That's right.
19:13There are a lot of people behind the commentator.
19:17There are a lot of people behind the commentator.
19:20Matsuki is behind the commentator.
19:24Matsuki looks like a forward.
19:27I can't take my eyes off Judo.
19:31There are a lot of things I want to say about other sports.
19:37Judo is difficult.
19:39The rules change.
19:41There are 100 techniques in Judo.
19:44There are 100 techniques in Judo.
19:47Even if you have a technique you've never seen before,
19:50You have to use it in the position you throw.
19:56You have to use it in the position you throw.
20:03The name of the technique changes depending on the position.
20:10I don't know much about it.
20:12I don't know much about it.
20:16You've been talking about Judo for a long time.
20:25Judo is a very difficult game.
20:28Judo is a very difficult game.
20:32Judo is a very difficult game.
20:36You have to use the technique you've never seen before.
20:40You have to use the technique you've never seen before.
20:44I've never heard of it.
20:49What is the name of Judo?
20:51I don't explain it.
20:57I'm easy to explain it.
20:59I have a commentator and a commentator.
21:01I'm easy to explain it.
21:03I have a commentator and a commentator.
21:06I'm easy to explain it.
21:08That's hard to explain.
21:10You're right. I should lower the hurdle.
21:12But if you can just pinpoint the right moment, that's your role.
21:17But what I understand is that in the first round of the World Table Tennis Championship,
21:20there's a level difference that sometimes you can't lose by 100 million percent.
21:25100 million percent?
21:26100 million percent.
21:27There's a level difference that I can't lose even if I do it with my right hand.
21:30Isn't that why commentary is so hard?
21:33I see.
21:34Even if you can't lose by 100 percent, you have to compliment the other player.
21:37You have to say that the other player is really good.
21:39You can't say that you can win by 100 million percent.
21:43Right.
21:44You have to say that the other player is really good.
21:47At that moment, I feel like I'm lying.
21:50You're talking all the time.
21:52You shouldn't have said that.
21:54I see.
21:56That's the problem with this match.
21:58There's too much difference in skill.
22:00There's too much difference in skill.
22:01What would you do, Makino?
22:02If it's a match with too much difference in skill?
22:04I'm definitely going to play in the final round of the Asian Championships.
22:06I'm definitely going to play in the final round of the Asian Championships.
22:08From the point of view of the viewers, the game is already decided.
22:11But I don't want you to change the channel.
22:13I'm going to write down all the players' gossips in my head.
22:17What?
22:18Gossip?
22:19You don't say gossips in the commentary, do you?
22:21I've been saying, buy a dog.
22:23You're putting it in your head.
22:25I'm going to write down the dog's name and the number of the dog.
22:29I'm going to look into everything.
22:31It's like Masuda Ken-san from Marathon.
22:33That's right.
22:34It's a pattern.
22:35That's interesting.
22:37That's right.
22:38That's interesting.
22:39Makino-kun is the only commentator.
22:42That's right.
22:43That's right.
22:44Us two.
22:46Please listen to me again.
22:49Mizutani-san and Nomura-san, please step back.
22:52This is important.
22:55It's hard to hear, but there's retirement.
22:59How do you decide that?
23:04Three top athletes have retired from their active careers.
23:13How did you decide to retire?
23:16Do you think about it as you get older?
23:20I've been thinking about it since I was in college because I've had a very weak time.
23:25But I feel like I've jumped after I got into college.
23:28Did you have a weak time?
23:31I've been doing judo since I was 10 years old.
23:33I lost to a girl in a civil competition when I was in the first year of junior high school.
23:36I won the prefectural competition for the first time in my third year of high school.
23:40But I lost to a girl in the preliminary league in the summer of the national competition.
23:45I couldn't win a single match in the national competition.
23:47I've never heard of that kind of way of walking.
23:50You didn't feel that way in 15 or 16 years?
23:56You didn't feel like you could do judo?
23:57No.
23:58But I thought I would be able to do it someday.
24:03That's amazing.
24:06You were so weak for 15 years that you couldn't sleep at night.
24:12It's rude to say that you were weak.
24:14But it's a story that comes to mind.
24:17What changed when you were a college student?
24:20I've been getting better.
24:22I weighed only 30 kg when I was in the first year of junior high school.
24:25I weighed only 45 kg when I was in the first year of junior high school.
24:28I didn't give up and improved my body.
24:32I was able to use my body to improve my skills.
24:35And I met a coach.
24:37I changed my mind.
24:38Suddenly, I won the championship.
24:41There's a coach.
24:43I was told that I was a genius because I won the Olympics three times in a row.
24:48I was told that I didn't know how to lose.
24:51But I only knew how to lose.
24:53I've been doing this for a long time since I won the gold medal.
24:56I lost three times in 2004.
24:58I was injured for about 10 years since then.
25:02I experienced a lot of things.
25:05Did you start thinking about losing weight because you were injured?
25:11That's right.
25:12If I hadn't been injured, I would have lost four times in a row.
25:18Where does your motivation come from?
25:20Don't you usually feel satisfied with the first gold medal?
25:23I was in the first year of junior high school.
25:25I was too old to think about retirement.
25:28I was in the second year of junior high school.
25:31I was studied by everyone for four years.
25:34I was happy to beat them all.
25:36I felt like I was the champion.
25:40Mr. Nomura, you know so much.
25:42Why don't you understand the explanation?
25:44He is a man who has experienced everything.
25:47I understand how he feels and how he fights.
25:50But I don't know what I don't understand.
25:52He is honest.
25:53How did you decide to retire?
25:56I wanted to retire because of my injury and eye disease.
26:01But I didn't want to do it anymore.
26:04You want to retire.
26:06I want to retire.
26:07But when I know who I used to be, I can compare myself with younger players.
26:11I didn't know who I was when I was in junior high school.
26:15When I see myself getting weaker, I feel like I'm the Olympic representative.
26:20I'm frustrated.
26:22I'm getting older.
26:24I don't want to grow any more.
26:26I want to quit before I feel good.
26:31There are people who comment on TV.
26:35There are also people who go to the guidance car.
26:38How did you decide that?
26:40Everyone goes to the guidance car at the table tennis club.
26:44I don't have much work.
26:46I either teach or make my own table tennis court.
26:49I won a medal, so many people know me.
26:53I was able to create a new path called TV.
26:57I want to take advantage of the opportunities I have.
27:00I want to play in a world that everyone doesn't know as much as possible.
27:05I see.
27:06You've been teased since you were active.
27:11I've seen it a lot on TV.
27:13I think it's human nature.
27:15I used to be a very strict person.
27:19He was a very strict person.
27:24He told me to grow up early.
27:26He told me that I was weak.
27:28That's the worst.
27:30He told me that I was weak.
27:33He told me to grow up early.
27:35He told me that I was weak.
27:37He told me that I was a terrible person.
27:41That's the worst.
27:43He was very strict and serious.
27:46I regretted it.
27:48I regret that I hurt him.
27:50He was a sportsman, so he felt that way.
27:54I don't have to say it.
27:57I'm a strict person.
27:59Where did you change?
28:01HONDA KEISUKE and ICHIRO.
28:03They are legends.
28:05ICHIRO is a legend.
28:07I thought I couldn't be like them.
28:09I felt the limit of being different from them.
28:13I felt the limit of being different from them.
28:15I decided to go on a different path.
28:17I was ranked first in the athlete ranking in 2021.
28:21I was ranked first in the athlete ranking in 2021.
28:24I was ranked first in the athlete ranking in 2021.
28:27I didn't think Genki was worried about the ranking.
28:31I was ranked first in the athlete ranking in 2021.
28:33I was ranked first in the athlete ranking in 2021.
28:35I was ranked second in the athlete ranking in 2021.
28:37I was very close to him.
28:39He was a little sharp.
28:43He was very sharp.
28:45He was very sharp.
28:47He was 180 degrees.
28:49I didn't know that.
28:51I'm sure he will appear someday.
28:53I was conscious of not saying it in the commentary.
28:56I want to see it.
28:58I want to see it.
29:00It's attractive.
29:02How did you decide to go on a different path?
29:08I decided to quit after seeing bad seniors.
29:12I saw bad seniors for a long time.
29:18I knew what I wanted to do.
29:20What did you do?
29:22I was a director.
29:24I wanted to be a director.
29:26When did you decide to quit?
29:28There aren't many young directors.
29:31There were many directors in their 30s in Europe.
29:36There are no directors in Japan.
29:38I decided to retire and be a director.
29:42I decided to retire and be a director.
29:47You can't play the game you used to play.
29:53So instead of waiting for 2-3 years, I decided to do it right away and go to the next stage.
29:59So you said you wanted to be a coach.
30:01And now you're on Day Day, right?
30:03Yes.
30:04How did you decide that?
30:06Why are you talking about Day Day?
30:09Because I watch it a lot.
30:12It takes a lot of time and money to get a soccer license.
30:16I didn't quit because I wanted to be a coach.
30:20I've been preparing for it since I was in my early 20s.
30:23I've been getting a license to play soccer for a long time.
30:27It took me 10 years to retire and become a coach.
30:32When I thought I wanted to go back to my 30s,
30:36I had to retire at the age of 35.
30:39I had a calculation that I couldn't go back to my 30s.
30:42When I finish my TV work,
30:45I have a team of my own to get a license.
30:50It's not just Day Day.
30:53I'm not saying it's just Day Day.
30:56Are you having fun as a talent?
30:58I'm having a lot of fun.
31:00If you have an offer, do you want to keep doing it?
31:03I'll choose a job.
31:05Of course, my goal is to become a coach.
31:08It's not like a job that requires a master's degree.
31:13I see.
31:14It's not like you're going to be a general manager.
31:16That's right.
31:17It's not convincing.
31:18It's a little bit of a joke.
31:20I'm the breadwinner.
31:22The person who does it in front of the TV
31:24I told him to become a coach and run.
31:26It's not going to work.
31:28It's easy to get involved.
31:30It's easy to get involved.
31:32When I become a coach in the future.
31:35I don't want to see my embarrassing video from three years ago.
31:38I'm sure you'll get involved.
31:41After winning the championship.
31:44I want to see this.
31:46I like TV.
31:47I'll do my best to do what I'm asked to do.
31:51There's a variety of talk about sports.
31:57Is there a job like this that's a little troublesome?
32:00Do you use your body?
32:02Running.
32:04I have to shoot about twice a year.
32:07My whole body is tattered.
32:09Do you use your body?
32:13Do you escape from somewhere?
32:15Do you play tag?
32:18I agree.
32:20Isn't Mizutani playing a lot of games like that?
32:22That's right.
32:23I've played a lot of games.
32:25It's easy to get used to the image.
32:27It's a little bit of a script.
32:29There's a lot of content.
32:31I have to show it as a gold medalist.
32:35I have to adjust the balance.
32:39As a gold medalist?
32:41That's right.
32:43Is there anything you can say?
32:47I don't have all the energy.
32:50I want you to be naked.
32:53Who is it?
32:55Mizutani has a naked project.
32:58It's a naked project.
33:00For the general public, we train our bodies.
33:04That's right.
33:06I have a healthy body, so I don't like it.
33:11I have a lot of bath scenes.
33:13I take a bath scene from the moment I use it.
33:16That's right.
33:18You're an actress.
33:20If an ordinary interviewer says,
33:22I can't finish it like this.
33:24I don't know if it's an announcer or not.
33:27I don't have a lot of medalists.
33:29That's why...
33:31I'm coming out of a bad place.
33:33You're coming out of a good place.
33:43Isn't it hard to interview after you lose?
33:46That's why I can ask tough questions.
33:50I was a judo player at the Tokyo Olympics.
33:53It wasn't commentary.
33:55When I was interviewing, the players were wearing mixed clothes.
33:58The players were talking to me.
34:00I'm an interviewer and a senior in the judo world.
34:03I don't know how to talk.
34:05It's a business.
34:07I'm going to speak a little closer.
34:09The camera is shooting from here.
34:11I don't know that Nomura is interviewing.
34:13The general public will say,
34:15You're so cheeky.
34:19I can't fit it in the interview.
34:22I'll fit it in.
34:25I've seen a lot of players.
34:27It's not going to end like this.
34:29If a regular interviewer says,
34:31It's not going to end like this.
34:33I don't know if it's an announcer or not.
34:35It's not an announcer, but it's rude.
34:37But I've seen it.
34:39There are a lot of interviews with former players.
34:42I said,
34:44Who is it?
34:46I think it's him.
34:48I think it's close.
34:50I got a lot of bashing on the first day.
34:52It's difficult to pick up.
34:54I'll get in trouble.
34:56From the next day on,
34:58I asked a cameraman,
35:00If you could point me at once.
35:02That's right.
35:04I've asked him how to shoot.
35:06This is the distance because I am Nomura.
35:10You're going to give an explanation now.
35:13At the time of the original play,
35:15I saw it on TV.
35:17It's a completely different explanation.
35:19I've been thinking about that.
35:21I've never thought,
35:23what is he saying?
35:25I've never thought it's wrong.
35:27I've never thought it's wrong.
35:29I'm the first male medalist
35:31in the Olympics.
35:33There are many other people
35:35who are not so good.
35:37There are not many medalists.
35:39So,
35:41I'm not saying bad things.
35:43I'm not saying bad things.
35:45I'm not saying bad things.
35:47I'm not saying bad things.
35:49Table tennis is a psychological game.
35:51I want to say,
35:53I'm going to serve here.
35:55I want to think like this.
35:57It's completely different.
35:59It's completely different.
36:01It's the opposite.
36:03It's not right at all.
36:05Then I'll do it.
36:07If someone else does it,
36:09I'll be a little worried.
36:11Do you have your best comment so far?
36:13Do you have your best comment so far?
36:15In the 2022 Women's World杯,
36:17In the 2022 Women's Worldể
36:19right after winning the Olympics,
36:21right after winning the Olympics,
36:23I was looking at the 1mm in the experience.
36:25I was the first person
36:27to say that I had not served.
36:29it was amazing.
36:31I was the first person
36:33to say that I had not served.
36:35I was talking this interview
36:37that was during
36:39pitch comment at that time.
36:41I'm watching his match now.
36:43I was like, what do you think, Maki?
36:45But he didn't say anything.
36:47So, I'm not saying he's a recognized athlete,
36:49I'm saying he's Maki's flesh and blood.
36:51Maki's flesh and blood?
36:53That's completely different!
36:55He's worth it!
36:57You can see it right away.
36:59He's a recognized athlete.
37:01You see a lot of friendly Olympic athletes
37:03in other sports, right?
37:05Do they talk a lot?
37:07Right now, the National Training Center
37:09is a place where a lot of athletes
37:11gather together,
37:13and there's social media,
37:15so you get to interact with a lot of people.
37:17That's why we get along so well.
37:19But 20 years ago,
37:21there was no such thing,
37:23so judo was the only thing that gathered.
37:25There are a lot of medalists in judo,
37:27but there were no other athletes
37:29talking to each other.
37:31It doesn't disappear.
37:33I couldn't win a medal in the Olympics
37:35for the first time,
37:37so it's like a medalist mount.
37:39That's right!
37:41Even in the same Olympics!
37:43It's like a medalist mount.
37:45That's very humiliating.
37:47I see.
37:49I get really depressed
37:51in front of Nomura-san.
37:53But after you won the medal,
37:55did that disappear?
37:57I don't like that mount,
37:59so I want to make it easy to get close to.
38:01I get depressed,
38:03so other athletes do it.
38:05It's like a medalist mount.
38:07But if there are a lot of kids
38:09who are younger than you
38:11in a different sport,
38:13you don't think
38:15it's a little too much, do you?
38:17I don't think so.
38:19For example, from the Tokyo Olympics
38:21to urban sports,
38:23such as skateboarding,
38:25those athletes are
38:27about 15 years old,
38:29so their values are different.
38:31When I was a caster at the Tokyo Olympics,
38:33I didn't have that kind of timing,
38:35so I thought,
38:37how can I deal with
38:39a kid who is about 15 years old?
38:41I see.
38:43It's true.
38:45It's not easy to get angry.
38:47I tend to be polite
38:49to a lot of people.
38:51But I think
38:53the best MCs
38:55tend to keep their distance
38:57when it comes to sports.
38:59I think they're more excited
39:01than I am.
39:03If I don't think
39:05it's my show,
39:07I don't know
39:09how far I can go.
39:11Makino-san,
39:13what kind of mentality
39:15should I have?
39:17But from an athlete's point of view,
39:19MCs should definitely
39:21come to me.
39:23I'm the easiest to get along with,
39:25so I'll be your test subject.
39:27As an experiment.
39:29It depends on the personality of the entertainer.
39:31Sanma-san,
39:33Hamada-san,
39:35I know a lot about sports,
39:37so I can laugh when I'm teased.
39:39Nobura-san,
39:41who should I laugh at?
39:43Nobura-san,
39:45it's not like Odori has nothing to say.
39:47It's still too early.
39:49It's still too early.
39:51That's the answer.
39:53I'm glad I made the right decision.
39:57Hello.
39:59Welcome.
40:01I'm just tired of doing it.
40:03I can't sleep.
40:05It's good to be tired.
40:07That's Harada-san.
40:09I'm not playing.
40:13It's been 3 years
40:15since Non-Style came to our show.
40:17My stomach was weak at once.
40:19Is it because I'm old?
40:21I'm really bad at manzai lately.
40:23Non-Style's stomach, Ishizaka confessed.
40:25I could see the ceiling.
40:27This is definitely bad.
40:29What's the ceiling above his stomach?
40:31We'll reveal the truth.
40:33Trio's brain is here.
40:35We're trying to fit in.
40:37We're trying to fit in.
40:39It's not good to be in the same room with two people.
40:41It's not good to be in the same room with two people.
40:43Trio's brain is here.
40:45Trio's brain is here.
40:47Trio's brain is here.
40:49Trio's brain is here.