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00:00There are a lot of male comedians, so if you invite only good-looking comedians,
00:07people will think that you're sexually harassing them.
00:10They'll think that?
00:12The theme of tonight's Deep is...
00:15A lot of female customers come to my office,
00:19and they ask me how I've been doing.
00:21They ask me how I've been doing.
00:23They get close to me and touch me,
00:25and I can't say no to that.
00:27Sexual harassment.
00:30Sexual harassment.
00:36Sexual harassment is often thought to be done by men to women,
00:41but there are also cases where the victim becomes a woman.
00:44So, the theme of tonight's Deep is...
00:47Sexual harassment by women.
00:50I want to touch her muscles.
00:52I want to see her abs.
00:53Without permission, I'm like,
00:54Wow, that's amazing!
00:55It's hard for men to say that.
00:57It's hard for men to say that.
00:59If I were a man, I'd say,
01:01If I were a man, I'd say,
01:04It's not good to say it when you don't know if the other person likes it or not.
01:09People often ask me if I have a girlfriend.
01:12I think it's sexual harassment.
01:15This man was sexually harassed at work.
01:19When I was working on my computer, I was pointing at the screen,
01:23and I felt a tingling sensation.
01:26If I were a girl, I'd say,
01:28If I were a man, I'd say,
01:30I have a bad feeling about this.
01:32I learned a lot from that experience.
01:34On the other hand, some women think it's sexual harassment.
01:38I think they think it's physical affection.
01:41I think they think it's physical affection.
01:44If they're both male,
01:46what is sexual harassment like?
01:50What is sexual harassment like?
01:52If the both are the same age,
01:54they might get married and they might have a kid.
01:57I don't like that kind of discussion.
02:00If they're the same age, they might understand.
02:03If they're the same age, they might get married and they might have a kid.
02:04But you feel it so much,
02:06that you might feel more uncomfortable when a woman tells you about it.
02:08That's why we'll be talking about sexual harassment when you get married.
02:13The night when men and women are deeply in love!
02:20This program is a talk show for adults with deep themes.
02:24Today's theme is sexual harassment by women.
02:27Ichinose-kun, did you have a lot of sexual harassment from women?
02:30The distance was close and I was touched a lot.
02:36I didn't think that men were sexually harassed.
02:41I think it's because of the current situation.
02:46When I said, I'm Ichinose-san,
02:49she always said,
02:50I want to kiss your cute lips.
02:54Without expectation?
02:56Of course.
02:58Especially the last one,
02:59I want to kiss anyone.
03:01Anytime.
03:03Was there any sexual harassment?
03:08I don't think so.
03:13But when I talked to my female friends,
03:17they said,
03:18When did you kiss?
03:19Because they wanted to talk about love,
03:21I said,
03:22If you can't talk about love,
03:23let me talk about myself.
03:24I talked about my kiss.
03:25When did you kiss?
03:27I thought like that.
03:30I thought,
03:31Is this enough sexual harassment?
03:35I don't remember sexual harassment from men.
03:38It happens.
03:42It happens.
03:43How about you, Kusano-san?
03:44Is there anything you are careful about?
03:46When I have a meeting to write a song for an idol, artist, or voice actor,
03:52when I have a line group,
03:54I always get in touch with the manager and the president of the agency.
03:57I only get in touch with them.
04:01I don't get in touch with them individually.
04:03For example,
04:04when I don't have a way to get in touch with them,
04:09I send a DM to my agency.
04:14I ask them,
04:15Can I post a picture like this?
04:18I'm really careful about that.
04:22That's hard.
04:24It's easier to write a song when I get along with them.
04:27But I do get in touch with them a little bit.
04:31How about you, Atobu-san?
04:32Is there anything you are careful about?
04:36When I write a song,
04:37I try to keep a distance.
04:39Or I hold hands.
04:41Even if I don't write a song,
04:44I think it's better to keep a distance.
04:46Sometimes I make a suggestion.
04:49I think it's natural to hold hands.
04:53Even if I'm going to have a discussion,
04:55I'm afraid I can't refuse.
04:58It's hard to act, isn't it?
05:01It's difficult.
05:02Do you make a suggestion to your agency?
05:04For example,
05:05Can I hold hands?
05:07I'm a little afraid of that.
05:11If I don't have a way to get in touch with them,
05:13I don't get in touch with them.
05:15But if I do that,
05:16I get in touch with them more and more.
05:19I don't get in touch with them at all.
05:21That's hard.
05:23How about you, Hayu-san?
05:24Is there anything you are careful about?
05:27Overwhelmingly, there are many male entertainers.
05:30When I try to hang out with my entertainers,
05:34I naturally invite more male entertainers.
05:38If I invite only handsome entertainers,
05:42they think I'm a sexual harasser.
05:45Do they think so?
05:46Yes, they think so.
05:49I see.
05:50Do entertainers think so, too?
05:52I've been laughed at in the past.
05:55About 10 years ago, we had a live show as a duo.
05:58At that time, 80-90% of the audience was female.
06:02I invited two groups of male entertainers every time.
06:05We had a live show where we asked them to do the love situation we had in mind in front of the audience.
06:11Like a kiss?
06:12That's right.
06:13I asked them,
06:14How can I make her feel better?
06:16Now that I think about it,
06:19I don't think it's a good idea to make her feel better just because she's a comedian.
06:25I don't think it's a good idea to make her feel better just because she's a comedian.
06:29I think it's a little different when you invite someone you like because he's good-looking.
06:37I think so, too.
06:38Oh, did that happen?
06:40I guess it did.
06:46How do you take care of yourself?
06:48I'm 34 years old now.
06:50I don't think it's a good idea to get excited over trivial things.
06:53If you're a little older than me,
06:56I think it's better for you to say it yourself.
07:00But when you get older,
07:02and you have a meal with a 20-year-old girl,
07:06I don't think it's a good idea to listen to her.
07:11I don't think it's a good idea to listen to her.
07:13I don't think it's a good idea to listen to her.
07:14I don't think it's a good idea to listen to her.
07:17I don't think it's a good idea to support their feelings and talk about them in a one-sided way.
07:21I tell you, my boobs!
07:26I don't think it's a good idea to talk about things you think is trivial.
07:34I especially don't think members of the followers will think so in these days.
07:37Like Roka just said,
07:39You don't know if the other person thinks it's sexual harassment or not.
07:44For example, when you're talking about your relationship, if the listener says it's sexual harassment, it's sexual harassment.
07:49I don't know how much of the world's men think it's sexual harassment.
07:54I don't know at all, so I'd like to know the borderline.
07:58It seems that the program has also looked into it.
08:01What do you think is sexual harassment from a woman?
08:05Well, it's a sexual joke.
08:0946% body touch.
08:13There are 34% of people who accept it as sexual harassment.
08:19Can't I change my hairstyle?
08:21Why?
08:22I don't know if it's sexual harassment, but I changed my hairstyle.
08:25I'm sure you can't cut your hair.
08:27I'm sure you can't cut your hair.
08:37I'm glad you noticed that I cut my hair.
08:40There are only 5% of people who accept it as sexual harassment.
08:45It's sexual harassment.
08:47When I searched for sexual harassment, I found that Mr. Ueda was great.
08:53When I search for sexual harassment, I find that Mr. Ueda is good at sexual harassment.
08:59It's a self-evaluation.
09:00Really?
09:01That's how I found out that there are people who support sexual harassment.
09:05I told my daughter,
09:07The only person in the world who says sexual harassment is my father.
09:10That's right.
09:11He's the only one in the world.
09:12It's a special nickname.
09:14I think it's an old nickname.
09:16Body touch and loose clothes are a technique for women.
09:23It may be a weird nickname, but men are happy when they touch their bodies casually.
09:29It's a good way to show your body.
09:32I used to ride a hot dog press.
09:34I'm wearing a hot dog press today.
09:36It's not a trick, but it's a good way to show your body.
09:39I used to touch my boyfriend's body a lot.
09:45It's a good way to show your body.
09:48If you don't look at it, you'll fall into sexual harassment.
09:52It's very difficult.
09:53Until about ten years ago,
09:55I didn't think I was a lover, but I thought I was more than a friend.
09:59I thought we had feelings for each other.
10:02When I invited him to dinner,
10:04While we were eating together, we realized that we could get along because we liked each other.
10:09We gradually realized our relationship.
10:12But now we don't have any feelings for each other.
10:14I see.
10:15I think I can only invite him when I'm sure he likes me.
10:21I feel like I don't feel like I'm in touch with him as much as I used to.
10:27I see.
10:28For example, if you were invited to dinner by a woman, would you feel uncomfortable?
10:35I'd be happy if she recognized me and cared about me.
10:43If you were invited to dinner, would you go?
10:46Yes, thank you.
10:49Stop it.
10:51Did you hear his trembling voice?
10:56Did you hear his trembling voice?
10:59No, I didn't.
11:01By the way, this is what he said when he asked her if she was interested in him.
11:07You don't care about him, do you?
11:10He looks at me with his eyes wide open.
11:12I like his hairstyle.
11:15Stop it.
11:17Stop it.
11:20This is what he said when he asked her if she was interested in him.
11:26You don't care about him, do you?
11:28Well, almost.
11:32Do you care about his appearance?
11:36Sometimes I want to see him, but I don't want to see him.
11:39Sometimes I want to see him, but I don't want to see him.
11:46I think he has a good sense of timing.
11:51I think he has a good sense of timing.
11:56I think he has a good sense of timing.
12:02I think he has a good sense of timing.
12:07What else does he care about?
12:10He cares about birthday presents for male entertainers.
12:14He used to like good shampoo and socks.
12:22But he might not like the smell of Matsura when he uses shampoo.
12:29He might not like the smell of Matsura when he uses shampoo.
12:38He doesn't know what to give him.
12:41He doesn't know what to give him.
12:46But I know Matsura is here.
12:49He doesn't know what to give him.
12:54That's an exaggeration of Matsura.
12:57He doesn't remember Matsura even if he sees socks.
13:00He doesn't remember Matsura even if he sees socks.
13:03He used to give him boxers and trunks.
13:08He used to give him boxers and trunks.
13:10But he doesn't remember Matsura when he gets a new underwear.
13:15He doesn't remember Matsura when he gets a new underwear.
13:18He doesn't remember Matsura when he gets a new underwear.
13:22Matsura is thinking too much.
13:26I'm embarrassed.
13:30I wonder if anyone thinks like that.
13:33How about you, Katsusama?
13:35Do you try not to go out with only two men?
13:40I think it's safer to have more than one.
13:46For example, when a young man comes,
13:51I don't care if he has a girlfriend.
13:57But I think it's better to know the future.
14:02But I think it's better to know the future.
14:05I don't think it's okay to ask like that.
14:08I don't think it's okay to ask like that.
14:13How about you, Okubo?
14:15Do you try not to go out with only one man?
14:17I don't think I go out with only one man.
14:20I don't think it's exciting to go out with only two men.
14:23I think it's better to go out with only one man.
14:27I think it's better to go out with only one man.
14:31It's easy to understand.
14:33Can I go out with only one man?
14:35Can I go out with only one man?
14:38Look at her.
14:40I can't say anything.
14:42I can't say anything.
14:46This is sexual harassment.
14:49I saw it in the video.
14:52Have you ever thought that it was sexual harassment?
14:57There was a woman who greeted me with a hug.
15:01I'm not used to that.
15:03I'm attracted to Akano-sama.
15:06I'm attracted to Akano-sama.
15:09He was always there for me.
15:14I don't think there's a hug that doesn't symbolize peace.
15:19I don't like body touch.
15:22I was a girl.
15:24I was a girl.
15:29I'm most curious about this.
15:31I'm most curious about this.
15:36I'm most curious about this.
15:40I touched Asako's breast first.
15:42It was bigger than I thought.
15:44I'm not sure about myself.
15:47I'm not sure about myself.
15:50What did she mean?
15:52I'm a pretty girl.
15:57I'm not sure about myself.
16:00I think it's better to refuse.
16:04I think it's better to refuse.
16:07I went to the dressing room to see her solo live.
16:11She was sweating a lot.
16:15She was sweating a lot.
16:18I was sweating.
16:22I was sweating.
16:25I've been in the Royal Guard for 20 years.
16:29I've been in the Royal Guard for 20 years.
16:33I
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