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初耳怪談 2024年10月28日 女が居着く部屋
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00:00Good evening. Welcome to Hatsumimi Kaidan.
00:03First, let's welcome the regulars.
00:05Thank you for having us.
00:09Today, we have a special guest.
00:12He is the Kaidan Culturalist,
00:14Mr. Itako No. 28.
00:17Thank you for having me.
00:19Could you explain to us what a Kaidan Culturalist is?
00:23A Kaidan is, to put it bluntly, a witness.
00:26A Kaidan is a memory.
00:29We listen to the memory and talk about it.
00:33A Kaidan Culturalist is not looking for a memory, but a record.
00:37For example, let's say you hear a Kaidan in this place.
00:41The same phenomenon can be found in old books.
00:45The Kaidan Culturalist is looking for a record of something like that.
00:49It is the Kaidan Culturalist who announces that
00:52a ghost appeared because there was a story like this.
00:55I said something good, didn't I?
00:57But the problem is that
00:59even if you look into it, there is nothing.
01:02There are only three stories in a year.
01:05I'm sorry to say that it's a story,
01:07but it's hard to find a story that can be announced.
01:10But if you look into it,
01:12there is a story that something strange is lurking there.
01:17Yes, that's right.
01:21Let's move on to this corner.
01:23This is the Hatsumimi Idobata Conference.
01:25In this corner, we will talk about the themes that have been decided each time.
01:30The 30th of October is the day of first love.
01:35Why?
01:37Because it's a love story,
01:39the title has been given.
01:41Even if you look at it from the other side,
01:43it's a summer memory, a warmth I felt.
01:45There are a lot of title-like songs this time.
01:48Is there anything you're curious about, Itako-san?
01:51Well...
01:53The woman in the ruins?
01:55The woman in the ruins behind Tenka-san?
01:57Yes.
01:58This is me.
02:00A man in his 40s.
02:02He said he experienced it about 20 years ago.
02:06He was walking around the ruins with his friends
02:09like a ghost spot.
02:12A few meters ahead of him,
02:15he saw the shadow of a woman's silhouette.
02:18He said,
02:20there's no one there.
02:22But his friends said,
02:24no, there's no one there.
02:26And they went home.
02:28But when they got home,
02:30I was curious about the face of the woman.
02:33What kind of clothes was she wearing?
02:35I was really curious.
02:37He rode his bike alone and went to the ruins again.
02:40At that time, he wasn't scared at all.
02:43He went to the ruins excitedly,
02:45thinking,
02:47there's no one there.
02:49But a few meters ahead of him,
02:51he saw the silhouette of a woman.
02:53He ran to the ruins, thinking,
02:55there's no one there.
02:57Only on that day,
02:59he saw the silhouette of a woman.
03:01After a few days,
03:03he couldn't find the woman.
03:05But when he went to the ruins,
03:07he thought it was a handbag,
03:09so he brought a bouquet of flowers every time.
03:11About a month later,
03:13he came back to his one-room house
03:16and found that his room was a little dim.
03:21He thought he had to change the light bulb,
03:24but there was someone standing behind him.
03:27He thought it was that woman.
03:29When he turned around,
03:31there was no one there.
03:33But at the entrance,
03:35there was a bouquet of flowers.
03:37That was the bouquet of flowers he brought.
03:40He took it in his hand.
03:42The moment he took it in his hand,
03:44he became strangely calm.
03:46He thought,
03:48why did I go to the ruins every time?
03:51Suddenly, he came back to himself.
03:54Until then,
03:56maybe he was attached to that woman.
03:58Maybe he was in love with her.
04:00That's a good story.
04:02He understood the ghost,
04:04and he broke up with her.
04:06He said, let's break up.
04:08I see.
04:10It's a sad story
04:12that they broke up
04:14because of love.
04:16What do you think, Itako-san?
04:18Do you have a title you're interested in?
04:20The Word of Vow.
04:22This is me.
04:24The Word of Vow
04:26is a marriage
04:28where a man and a woman
04:30vow their love
04:32to each other
04:34at the wedding.
04:36They vow their love
04:38to each other
04:40at the wedding.
04:42It's a ritual
04:44to vow their love.
04:46It's not a word,
04:48but I think that ritual
04:50is very important
04:52and will influence
04:54the future.
04:56At the wedding,
04:58they played
05:00a pipe organ.
05:02When I talked to the performer,
05:04I realized
05:06that the common point
05:08of the couple
05:10is that
05:12when the performer
05:14vows her love,
05:16it's not a word,
05:18but it's a sound.
05:20I see.
05:22The couple
05:24often breaks up
05:26later,
05:28so the couple
05:30said,
05:32I heard the sound.
05:34The couple
05:36listened carefully
05:38to the sound of the pipe organ.
05:40Did they say it unconsciously?
05:42I don't know.
05:44Maybe unconsciously,
05:46they said,
05:48I vow my love to you,
05:50but it's not a word.
05:52I don't know
05:54whether it's true or not.
05:56It's interesting.
05:58I didn't know
06:00such a thing existed.
06:02I'd like to ask you
06:04about it.
06:06Well,
06:08what should I do?
06:10Chika-chan or Chinatsu-chan?
06:12Which one?
06:14Chinatsu-chan.
06:16I got a call
06:18from a viewer
06:20who watched
06:22Thriller Night Channel.
06:24She said she knew
06:26Senka Ushida for the first time.
06:28She was curious
06:30about my real name, Chinatsu.
06:32When I thought
06:34she was Chinatsu-san,
06:36I suddenly remembered
06:38the old days.
06:40She was a middle school student.
06:42She thought she could
06:44make friends with Tenkin-zoku
06:46and move out soon.
06:48There was a girl
06:50who had the same situation.
06:52She was Chinatsu-chan.
06:54She said she couldn't
06:56make friends with Tenkin-zoku.
06:58So, she started to go to Chinatsu-chan's house.
07:00Her house was on the second floor.
07:02Next to her house,
07:04there was an old candy store.
07:06She said,
07:08she'd clean the store
07:10and buy some candy and juice.
07:12She always bought
07:14a pack of juice,
07:16candy and juice
07:18and went to Chinatsu-chan's house
07:20on the second floor.
07:22While she was cleaning the store,
07:24she decided to move out
07:26again.
07:28Even though they got along well,
07:30she decided to move out again.
07:32During the summer vacation,
07:34she went to Chinatsu-chan's house
07:36to get her luggage.
07:38When Chinatsu-chan's teacher
07:40said,
07:42she didn't know
07:44who she was talking to.
07:46Chinatsu-chan,
07:48my classmate,
07:50was not there.
07:52I couldn't understand
07:54so I went to her house.
07:56I came to her house
07:58many times.
08:00I was in the open space
08:02next to the candy store.
08:04The grass was thick.
08:06There was a stone wall
08:08and a broken warehouse.
08:10I went to the candy store
08:12and asked the lady
08:14if she remembered
08:16the middle school student
08:18who came to buy
08:20a pack of juice and candy.
08:22She said,
08:24isn't that you?
08:26She bought a pack of juice and candy
08:28and went to the open space.
08:30She climbed up
08:32the broken warehouse
08:34and drank the juice and candy.
08:36She looked so happy.
08:38She left the open space
08:40and went home.
08:42She said,
08:44isn't that you?
08:46She suddenly remembered
08:48the middle school student
08:50who came to buy
08:52a pack of juice and candy.
08:54I see.
08:56This story reminds me
08:58of the time
09:00when her name
09:02was at the end
09:04of the thread.
09:06She was a friend
09:08who disappeared.
09:10It's rare to see
09:12a witness
09:14in the middle of a story.
09:16In this corner, the staff actually went out to the city and collected the stairs from the general public.
09:20And we have a short video of the short stairs introduced by the person who made the program.
09:27Let's take a look.
09:28Hatsumimi Short Stairs
09:34My mother likes to grow flowers,
09:37and there were a lot of plants in the living room,
09:41but one day, the flowers withered.
09:44My mother was strangled, but I had a hunch.
09:50When I was drying my hair in the bathroom,
09:53a woman in red came out of the mirror and turned around.
09:59She was right here, staring at me.
10:05Then she disappeared into the living room.
10:10This happened every night.
10:13And then the flowers withered.
10:17Strangely, when all the flowers withered,
10:21the woman would not come out.
10:23When I replenished the flowers, she would come out again.
10:26So I asked my mother to stop.
10:30But my mother, who likes flowers, wouldn't stop.
10:34So this woman is still at home.
10:40That was a strong story. How about you, Mr. Senka?
10:43I think it's because of the nutrients.
10:47I'm glad I'm not a human being.
10:49Because I'm a plant.
10:52Plants are said to be good to put in front of the door or in the office,
10:58but sometimes they wither.
11:01But it's because they've taken over.
11:04Even if you feel sorry for them, if you keep changing them, they won't wither.
11:09I also heard from a friend of mine that
11:12even though they don't wither,
11:15there's a flower that withers when you decorate it at home.
11:23When you don't decorate it, the flowers wither.
11:28So the air in the room is completely different.
11:31It's not like there's a ghost or anything, but it's a little strange.
11:37Even in feng shui, decorating a living plant or flower is very feng shui-like,
11:44but it's a big no-no to leave a withered flower or plant as it is.
11:50I think they're trying to absorb the moisture.
11:55I have a friend who lives in this room, and she has a lot of poltergeist symptoms.
12:00I told my friend to put sake in the living room to wash it,
12:04and she said,
12:06she put sake in the living room,
12:10and the next day, it was all dry.
12:13In one day?
12:14In one day.
12:15If you put sake in the living room, it tastes bitter.
12:19It tastes like iron.
12:21It can turn black.
12:23On the contrary, if you put salt in the living room, it becomes slimy.
12:27That's right.
12:28It's the opposite. If it's withered, it becomes slimy.
12:31It's not like they're trying to absorb the moisture,
12:34but if you put it in the living room, it's like a barometer.
12:39Maybe they're trying to measure the state of the room.
12:44It's like a dog.
12:46Come on, come on, come on.
12:48Come to her side.
12:50Near her ear.
12:54Let's move on to the next corner.
12:56It's the first take.
12:58We're going to show you the first take.
13:04Today, we're going to talk about Itako No. 28.
13:11I can't make a mistake, can I?
13:13No, you can't.
13:14Okay.
13:15Here we go.
13:21Today, we're going to show you the first take.
13:26Let's start with Itako No. 28.
13:31This is a story from 1999, 25 years ago.
13:39At that time, a woman in her early 20s, Keiko, experienced this.
13:45She decided to move to Tokyo.
13:50It took less than eight minutes from the station.
13:54Despite all the details, she only had 70,000 yen to pay.
14:03I thought it was impossible, but I talked to a real estate agent.
14:08He said,
14:10He said,
14:19I was a little surprised when I first saw it.
14:22It was a seven-story apartment.
14:25It was in a shrine.
14:29I thought, Is this okay?
14:33I opened the iron door.
14:36I thought, What?
14:39I heard no one was living there.
14:42It felt like someone was living in the room.
14:46There was a washing machine at the entrance.
14:49There were clothes and shoes on the washing machine.
14:55The room looked normal.
14:57It felt like someone was living there.
14:59If you were living there, you would have cleaned up the room.
15:04You would have taken out all the luggage.
15:07If you were living there, you would have put what you wanted here.
15:12I thought it was good.
15:15I said, It's 70,000 yen.
15:18He said, No.
15:20I said, No.
15:22He said, It's 130,000 yen.
15:24I said, Wait a minute.
15:26I said, It's impossible to pay 130,000 yen for 70,000 yen.
15:30I said, I know.
15:33If you decide today, I'll give you 70,000 yen.
15:36But there's one thing I want you to do.
15:39What is it?
15:40There was a post office on the first floor.
15:44There was a post office on the first floor.
15:47There was a post office on the first floor.
15:50If you clean up the post office, I'll give you 60,000 yen.
15:54I thought it was strange.
15:56I said, It's 70,000 yen.
15:58I said, I know.
16:00I said, It's 70,000 yen.
16:01I said, It's 70,000 yen.
16:03The next day was Sunday.
16:06I said, I know.
16:08I said, I know.
16:09I said, I know.
16:10I said, I know.
16:11I closed.
16:12I left the post office.
16:13I left the post office.
16:15At that time, I forgot to ask for the number.
16:19The post office was closed.
16:21I thought I'd like to open it.
16:24I thought I'd like to open it.
16:25I thought I'd like to open it.
16:26Suddenly, I realized three numbers in my wife's head.
16:29It was open.
16:31I thought it was creepy, but in her case,
16:35I had been thinking about it since I entered the room.
16:39I thought there was someone in the room.
16:41I couldn't fall asleep because I didn't want to.
16:44It was about 2 p.m. and I could finally sleep.
16:48Suddenly, I heard a thud.
16:51I heard a thud from the front door.
16:53I thought, what? But my body didn't move.
16:56But I was scared, so I closed my eyes, and I saw a video.
17:00A long-haired woman was standing like a dog.
17:05She was coming this way.
17:07I was scared, but when I closed my eyes, I could see her.
17:11I was scared to open my eyes, so I closed my eyes and opened them.
17:14Then I realized she was in the room.
17:18She came to my side and said,
17:23Be careful.
17:28I thought, what? But there was no woman.
17:32I was so scared that I moved to the next room.
17:39I heard this story about 2 years ago.
17:44I was very interested in it.
17:47I contacted her after a long time.
17:49I'm sorry to say this, but I'm very interested in this story.
17:53I have a lot of videos, so I want to see the apartment.
17:56So I went with her.
17:58She explained it to me from the station.
18:00I got an e-mail from her.
18:01She told me that there was a place like this near the station.
18:04That's exactly what happened.
18:07There was a shrine.
18:08But there was no apartment.
18:11There was a shrine building there.
18:15I asked the people at the shrine.
18:17I asked them if there was an apartment there.
18:21They said no.
18:23I asked her, what happened to me?
18:26Why?
18:28That's the end of the story.
18:30There's a lot of pieces here.
18:32But there's something strange about it.
18:35I know she's lying.
18:38I'm still covering this.
18:40If I find out anything else, I'll tell you.
18:42Thank you very much.
18:47When something clicks,
18:49All the other memories come back to me.
18:52I thought it might come back to me.
18:54What happened to the apartment?
18:57She's a cultural person.
18:59She explained the situation to me.
19:05There was no apartment where people lived.
19:08There was no apartment where the rent was cheap.
19:11The rent was 130,000 yen.
19:14It's less than 60,000 yen just by cleaning the post on the first floor.
19:18If you decide today,
19:20It's not normal.
19:22If you're in trouble with money, do you live?
19:24I live right away.
19:27I don't know if this is a simple case.
19:31It's like an unsolved case.
19:34I heard a lot of things.
19:38I heard a lot of things.
19:43I thought it was just one story.
19:45I thought it was just one story.
19:48I thought it was just one story.
19:51Itako often says,
19:53Itako often says,
19:56It's just like that.
19:58It's just like that.
20:01All the other memories come back to me.
20:04All the other memories come back to me.
20:07The apartment she remembers.
20:10The apartment she remembers.
20:14I've been to a few apartments in Tokyo.
20:20I thought it was the apartment over there.
20:23I thought it was the apartment over there.
20:28You know, there are memories.
20:31The moment you realize it,
20:33The moment you realize it,
20:35I'm scared of both.
20:38There's no one under the apartment.
20:41It's just her memory.
20:43It's just her memory.
20:44There's an apartment in another place.
20:47So, for example, if the rent was 130,000 yen and the rent was 70,000 yen,
20:54the scenery you saw at that time and the road you walked at that time were all repainted.
20:59It's even more creepy to think that the twist of that memory was intentionally made by someone spiritual.
21:10How was it, everyone?
21:12We are looking forward to your mysterious experiences in this program.
21:15We have a variety of unique stories, so please look forward to it.
21:19So, today's guest was Itako No. 28, a cultural person on the stairs.
21:24Thank you very much.

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