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00:0015 seconds to find out who the Legendary Comedian is!
00:0515 seconds!
00:06Tonight, we'll be introducing the Legendary Comedian to you in a quiz!
00:10Retirement is not something you can decide by yourself.
00:16It's up to you to decide.
00:20Well, yeah.
00:22Let's start with Beat Takeshi's retirement.
00:26I think I'll retire when things get bad.
00:29I see.
00:30It's obvious that he's going to retire.
00:34I want to keep eating with this.
00:38Furthermore,
00:40Shibata has been told by the Legend, Ken Shimura...
00:43I've always been told that.
00:47I've been told that a lot.
00:49Yahagi's surprising past is also obvious.
00:53I've always wanted to be a disciple of the Master.
00:57Really?
00:59There's a hint of life in the words left by the Legend.
01:04Today's guest is Ken Yahagi!
01:08Ken Yahagi!
01:10I'm Ken Yahagi.
01:12Do you have any words or sayings that you cherish?
01:16Well, I do cherish the words that my parents told me.
01:22What is it?
01:23What I cherish is...
01:25I won't become a thief.
01:28You've been told that since you were a kid.
01:30The whole world has told me that.
01:32That's what I cherish.
01:34It's not love.
01:36It's not love.
01:37It's not love.
01:38Let's get started.
01:41From the 1970s to the 1980s,
01:45the ratings of three Kammuri TV shows exceeded 100%.
01:50100% ratings?
01:52Ken Yahagi, who was called the 100% man of ratings,
01:56has a saying about how to get along with people.
02:01Get along with people of high status.
02:06They will be your allies in the future,
02:09and it will also lead to a job increase.
02:11He's a newcomer.
02:13That's what it means.
02:14But people of high status are...
02:16Low?
02:17Young?
02:18Isn't he from a production company?
02:21He's tall.
02:22He's a member of the board.
02:23There are people of high status in production companies.
02:26Right, he's a member of the board.
02:28He's a high-ranking person.
02:30People of high status.
02:33Get along with young people.
02:36They will be your allies in the future,
02:39and it will also lead to a job increase.
02:41It's not about getting along with people of high status.
02:44Of course not.
02:45Akashiya Sanma, the laughing monster,
02:48has a saying about life.
02:51Hop, step.
02:54It's a repetition of life.
02:57Are you kidding me?
02:59Back, step, back.
03:01Isn't it hop?
03:03Hop, step, hop?
03:05It's a repetition of life.
03:07Hop, step, hop.
03:09It's a repetition of life.
03:11Hop, step, hop.
03:14Hop, step, slip.
03:18It's a repetition of life.
03:21He's good at this.
03:23Hop, step, slip.
03:25I think the third one will be funny.
03:28Because it's Sanma.
03:30It's a slip.
03:32It's not a jump.
03:34It means it's okay.
03:37Ogi Yahagi, hop, step, slip.
03:40Isn't it too fast?
03:42It's slip.
03:44Isn't it slip, slip, hop?
03:47It's slip, slip, hop.
03:50You've been doing it for a long time.
03:53Speaking of Ogi Yahagi,
03:55he advanced to the final in the first M-1 Grand Prix in 2001.
04:00I'm Ogi.
04:01I'm Yahagi.
04:02I'm Ogi Yahagi, but is there a problem?
04:06What have you seen of me so far?
04:10It's the same as someone who has only seen my appearance.
04:16I've never seen anyone who has only seen your appearance.
04:22The manzai of slow tempo has become a hot topic.
04:28In the M-1 final,
04:30something unthinkable happened in the show race.
04:35It was the first year of the M-1 Grand Prix.
04:39Ogi Yahagi was there.
04:41Tokyo and Ogi Yahagi.
04:44Tokyo Manzai.
04:464th place?
04:483rd place.
04:50What was the winner?
04:52Nakagawa.
04:54If it's not a winner, it's a loss.
04:56Don't eat so much.
04:58If it's not a winner, it's a loss.
05:01It was a good fight.
05:04Osaka's score was very low.
05:07It can't be helped.
05:09100 points, right?
05:11In each region.
05:13What was Osaka's score?
05:15Out of 100 votes?
05:179 points?
05:19How did you get to the final?
05:22I was too careful with the judges of King of Contest.
05:26It's a 1-2 point difference.
05:29I got 50 points from Shinsuke.
05:34At that time, there were judges who got 50 points.
05:38That's why I jumped to King of Contest.
05:41It's okay to have a judge who gets 50 points.
05:45I was surprised.
05:47I cheered a lot.
05:49I was surprised because it was 9 votes.
05:51I was surprised because it was 9 votes.
05:53I watched it in front of the TV.
05:55I was surprised because it was 9 votes.
05:58We always say it's funny.
06:01It's not a manzai.
06:03There were a lot of funny things.
06:05I was surprised when I saw the manzai he was doing.
06:11I had a story to do 10 minutes before the show began.
06:16I was embarrassed to do it.
06:19I was doing that story.
06:21I was doing such a good story in such a big stage.
06:25It's okay to do it.
06:26It's a contest to do it.
06:28That's right.
06:30because we didn't have any time to do all of the news.
06:32But there was a good story-telling!
06:35A story-telling, huh?
06:36Using that to make the cartoon perfect,
06:39that's crazy, right?
06:40It is scary, right?
06:41So we had a meeting and did it.
06:43And then...
06:44Four minutes?
06:45Four minutes.
06:46Where was that?
06:47We only had three minutes.
06:49I changed the story in the middle.
06:51I changed the story-telling to perfection,
06:52I have no idea how I did it,
06:53and it ended really quickly.
06:56What're you even thinking?
07:00Next, we have a discussion about the essence of human beings by Hana Hajime, the leader of Crazy Cats and Hana Hajime, who brought the fusion of music and comedy to the entertainment world of the Showa era.
07:14When you look at it with your long eyes, there is a human being that shines.
07:19What?
07:21When you look at it with your long eyes?
07:22Isn't it a term?
07:23A desire.
07:24When you look at it with your long eyes.
07:25It's not a flower.
07:27It's not a flower.
07:28It's a habit.
07:29It's a habit.
07:31It's a love.
07:32A love?
07:33A love.
07:35When you look at it with your long eyes, there is a human being that shines.
07:40There are two characters.
07:41There are two characters.
07:43The National Controversy Group.
07:44The members of The Drifters, Shimura Ken.
07:47They have a lot to say.
07:48They have a lot to say.
07:49They have a lot to say.
07:50They have a lot to say.
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10:52So, let's watch it!
10:53So, let's watch it!
10:54It was a video trailer.
10:57Ryutan Oka's comment to Hideyuki Nakayama.
11:03Listen carefully.
11:06Be careful when riding a bicycle.
11:10Be careful when you feel astonished or are too fast.
11:18I see.
11:19The hint is the opposite word.
11:23When I'm having a hard time, I'm having fun.
11:25When I'm growing up.
11:28When I'm falling down.
11:32When I'm falling down.
11:35Hide, listen.
11:37When you're having a hard time, it's when you're climbing.
11:42When you think you're amazing and you're fast, it's when you're falling, so be careful.
11:51I see.
11:53That's great.
11:55How about you, Mr. Yahagi?
11:57Is there a moment when you thought you were having a hard time?
12:00Having a hard time?
12:02No, I don't think so.
12:04You don't?
12:05I've never had a hard time.
12:06You haven't?
12:07I haven't climbed at all.
12:08I've never climbed.
12:11That's why I haven't climbed.
12:13I've never had a hard time.
12:16That's rare.
12:17That's amazing.
12:18You don't have a hard time at work, do you?
12:21I had a hard time when I was young.
12:23You had a hard time, didn't you?
12:24It's something everyone has experienced.
12:27I had five or six hard times a day.
12:31I had three hard times a day.
12:34I had two hard times a day.
12:37I had three hard times a day.
12:40I can't think of anything funny.
12:44You can't think of anything funny?
12:46I don't have the energy.
12:49People who watch TV don't know who I am.
12:53I see.
12:54They don't think I'm boring because I'm the third one.
12:58I want to teach you.
12:59I want to teach you.
13:00That's the theme.
13:02I'm the third one.
13:04People think I'm boring.
13:06That's right.
13:07That's right.
13:08That's why I don't want to be the third one.
13:11I don't want to be boring.
13:13I don't want to be boring.
13:14You can't think of anything funny.
13:16I don't have the energy.
13:17That's right.
13:18I can't help it.
13:20You have a good way of living.
13:22Next, we will talk about Rakugo, which is also the first host of the Rakugo world.
13:33Rakugo is a process of 火 to 火.
13:39It's difficult.
13:40It's not fun to be gay if you don't smell like a villain.
13:44I don't know.
13:45The hint is the same word.
13:48善.
13:50日常.
13:51常識?
13:52常識?
13:53非常識?
13:54常識に対する非常識の工程。
13:57常識っぽい。
13:58常識か。
13:59へえ。
14:00ラクゴというのは常識に対する非常識の工程。
14:07悪徳の匂いのしないものは、ゲイとして楽しくない。
14:11なるほどな。
14:12深い。
14:13深いな。
14:1677歳の現在でも笑い芸人、映画監督、俳優など、
14:22他方面で活躍を続けるBとタケシの芸人の引退に関する禁言。
14:28引退?
14:31芸事に関わる人間の引退は自分で決めるもんじゃないんだよ。
14:37決めるのはあくまで何だ。
14:41他人?
14:42お客じゃない?
14:43お客。
14:44お客。
14:45まあニーズがなければ。
14:46世間。
14:47まあ世間。
14:48世間ね。
14:49国民。
14:50タケシじゃない?
14:51タケシ。
14:52あくまで。
14:53近いな。
14:54それはそれでなんか近いかもしれない。
14:55俺なんだ。
14:56ダンカン。
14:57ダンカンじゃない。
14:58あくまでダンカンじゃない。
15:00芸事に関わる人間の引退は自分で決めるもんじゃないんだよ。
15:05決めるのはあくまで客なんだ。
15:09お客。
15:10お客。
15:11でも漫才を辞めた理由っていうのはまたあるはずですよね、タケシさん。
15:15ああ、確かに。
15:16確か。
15:17それも何か残してるの?
15:18ありますね。浮かぶんだけど出てこないっていう言葉が。
15:22ああ、で、そのスピードっていうか、衰えを。
15:26衰えて漫才を辞めなくちゃいけない。
15:28だとしたら俺とっくに辞めてるけど。
15:30俺もそうなんですよ。
15:32もうね、結構出てこないよね。
15:34ヤギさんなんて浮かばないし出てこないもんね。
15:37何にもできないじゃん。
15:40まず浮かばなきゃ出ないでしょ。
15:42確かにね。
15:435年くらい前から惰性で生きてるから。
15:46歓声だけでやってんの。
15:48すごい人だよ、逆に。
15:49なんとなく。
15:50すごいよ。
15:51いや、客が決めることだからね。
15:53それで人数が合っちゃうからしょうがない。
15:55俺は客が決めることだと思ってるから。
15:57ただ客前に立ってないだけですよね。
15:58自分で決めていいんだったらもうとっくに引退するんだけど。
16:01そうだよね。
16:02でもニーズが合っちゃうからね。
16:03ニーズがあるからやっぱり。
16:05それは武さんもおっしゃってるから。
16:072ビートのテンポはたぶんそういうことだよね。
16:09そうだよね。
16:10あのスピードね。
16:11ちょっとでもそれ感じてるよ最近ね、俺たちもね。
16:13感じてんの?
16:14感じてます。
16:15なんか顔は出てるけど名前出ないとかよくあります。
16:18あとテンポがちょっと狂うとか。
16:20漫才で?
16:21漫才もあります。
16:22漫才を引退するみたいなのは考えたことはないでしょ?
16:25だから今50歳ですけども50歳なりの漫才。
16:29スローテンポにしたりとか。
16:31テンポ遅くなってんだよ今。
16:33僕らのM1グランプリくらいと比べると相当遅いですよね。
16:37ああそう。
16:38わかんないもんだね。
16:39ずっと変わらないですねテンポね。
16:41そうねやっぱ最初から速いのできなかったからね。
16:44そうだよね。
16:45憧れますよ。
16:46憧れるよね。
16:47そうそう。
16:48漫才を辞めるときは引退みたいなのあるの?
16:50それは特に考えてないですけど、
16:53体的にやっぱりダメになってきたら引退かなと思います。
16:56ああもうね。
16:58ボケる体力がなくなってくると思う。
17:01悲しい引退だけどね。
17:03ボケるのがめんどくさくなったらね。
17:05アンタッチャブルさんどうですか?
17:06引退ってちょっと考えます?
17:08引退もう全然考えない。
17:11ずっとこれでご飯食べたい。
17:15なるほど。
17:16ショウさん?
17:17いやいや同じだけど、
17:18ある程度まで行ったら、
17:19俺もニーズがなくなるときって必ず来るのかなって思うから、
17:23その時はもう引退かなって思うけどね。
17:25まあまあね。
17:26マネじゃねえ!
17:27どうした?
17:29一緒にやってるんだよ。
17:32え、びっくりしたんだけど。
17:33なんで共感したら怒られなきゃいけないの?
17:36切り離したマネじゃねえ。
17:38一緒で考えてるから。
17:40ニコイチですかね。
17:41ニコイチってアンタッチャブル。
17:42びっくりしたよ。
17:43ついてくからね。
17:44パリ系の。
17:46いや考えないよそんなの。
17:48オギアリさんはあんまそういう話しないですか?
17:50全然ないね。
17:51オギアリはすぐに南の島へ行きたがるから、
17:54そこがね、もしかすると。
17:57もう海外?
17:58もう海外でゆっくり過ごしてるんだとか言われて。
18:01オギアリのやりたいことはなるべくやらせてあげてくれよ。
18:04始まっちゃうからってなっちゃうからさ。
18:06人生で一番大きいやつが出るからね。
18:08大きいやらせてあげたいから。
18:10最後のこれが出る可能性あるんだよね。
18:12最後のやらせてあげたいね。
18:15この後は志村けんの笑いについての禁言。
18:21ベタなほうがより高度なテクニックが必要なんですよ。
18:26客が…でも笑わせられる。
18:31それが本当の笑いのテクじゃないのかな。
18:35シャー!
18:53ベタなほうがより高度なテクニックが必要なんですよ。
18:58客が…でも笑わせられる。
19:03A.
19:04You know what the other person is doing, but you still make them laugh?
19:07Yes, I know what they are doing, but I still make them laugh.
19:10Even when you're depressed.
19:12Even when you have a bad debt.
19:16You're a foreigner.
19:19Even when you look away.
19:21When you're out, you need a more advanced technique.
19:26You can make people laugh even when they don't know what you're doing.
19:31I don't think that's the real technique of comedy.
19:34I can't help but think that this is the technique.
19:36Well, well, that's true.
19:38Tetsuro Regawa, who has become a popular figure among the people,
19:42has made a statement about reaction movies.
19:46Hanamizu, for a reaction actor...
19:49This is famous.
19:50This is famous.
19:51What was it?
19:52Diamond?
19:53Diamond?
19:54Diamond.
19:55The one that carries jewels.
19:56That's right.
19:57That's right.
19:58It was definitely a diamond.
20:01It's on TV.
20:02It's on TV.
20:04Hanamizu, for a reaction actor...
20:08Diamond.
20:10Well, that's fine.
20:13It's Ken Shimura's famous saying.
20:15Why don't you listen to it?
20:17This is amazing.
20:18You can do this.
20:19That's right.
20:20But Dachow's Oden is already a form of art.
20:24That's right.
20:25It's a traditional game.
20:26It's already predictable.
20:28That's right.
20:29After all, it's Shimura's master.
20:31That's right.
20:32Ryuhei's master.
20:34He was beaten into it.
20:35I think that's what it is.
20:36He said, let's do it forever.
20:38That's right.
20:39Let's do it forever.
20:40That's amazing.
20:41How about you, Yawaki-san?
20:42Are there any entertainers you think are amazing?
20:45Well, all the entertainers are amazing.
20:49I can't say anything.
20:51He can't say anything.
20:54How many times did you say that today?
20:56It was the first time last year.
20:59It's the first time, but I'm tired in 30 minutes.
21:02I see.
21:03It's hard because everyone is amazing.
21:06That's right.
21:07Actually, I was thinking of becoming a disciple.
21:12What?
21:13What?
21:14What?
21:15What?
21:16What?
21:17What?
21:18What?
21:19What?
21:20What?
21:21What?
21:22What?
21:23What?
21:24What?
21:25What?
21:26He's rejecting the entertainers he respects.
21:29Actually, I was thinking of becoming a disciple of Master Dan.
21:35What?
21:36In Tatekawa?
21:37That's right.
21:38I went to meet Shirakawa-san when I was going to join Tatekawa.
21:41I thought I might be a disciple of Shirakawa-san.
21:44In terms of age?
21:45I really like Master Dan.
21:47So you like Rakugo?
21:48I like it.
21:49I like Master Dan.
21:51That's what I was thinking.
21:53But isn't Rakugo difficult?
21:56I'm sorry.
21:57It's hard to become a disciple.
21:58That's right.
21:59I had an ambition.
22:02I had the image of an old man coming to me.
22:06But when I joined, it was a new Rakugo.
22:08Oh, it was a revolution.
22:10I see.
22:11I thought I would make it popular in the Rakugo world.
22:17Once?
22:18Yes.
22:19I didn't think I could make it popular.
22:21It was difficult.
22:22Yes.
22:23What did you think?
22:24I was tired in 30 minutes.
22:26I was arrogant.
22:27It was difficult.
22:28I thought I was arrogant.
22:30I just didn't join.
22:33But you had an ambition.
22:34I really had an ambition.
22:35I see.
22:36You noticed it yourself.
22:37So you invited me to a manzai concert.
22:40Actually, I respect Master Dan the most.
22:42I see.
22:43Wasn't there a judge named Master Dan?
22:45There was.
22:46Only Master Dan judged me.
22:49So I was very happy.
22:50I'm very happy.
22:51I see.
22:52You have someone you like.
22:53He said he would make me look like a legal center.
22:56Did you notice it?
22:57I don't know who he is.
23:01Why?
23:02I don't know who he is.
23:03What is a legal center?
23:04Look it up later.
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