Tempers flared in the Dewan Rakyat on Wednesday (Nov 6) as Kota Bharu MP Datuk Seri Takiyuddin Hassan questioned whether the alleged addendum on house arrest linked to Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s partial pardon actually existed.
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00:00I would also like to thank you, Mr. President, for the first time, for your speech, Mr. Prime Minister,
00:07and also for your question about SOSMA.
00:13I would like to apologize to you, Mr. Speaker, and also to you, Mr. President,
00:17because both of them can only be answered by the Minister of Home Affairs.
00:20I am not responsible for the issue of moving to a prison,
00:26or the existence of a new prison for detention at home,
00:29and I am also not responsible for the issue of SOSMA.
00:32And I think, and I believe, that tomorrow,
00:36you, the Minister of Home Affairs, will answer the question,
00:38and I hope you can ask him the same question.
00:41Mr. President, wait a minute.
00:43You just said that you are the minister who will be responsible to the AGC,
00:49Attorney General Chambers.
00:51The Attorney General is one of the experts in the Immigration Agency.
00:56Could it be that you did not get the information from the AG about the issue of addendum?
01:02I am a bit confused.
01:05You used to be the Minister of Law.
01:08Did you say that the Attorney General reported to you?
01:12Is that what you are making assumption?
01:14We can get the information from the Attorney General.
01:16I am sorry, Mr. Speaker.
01:17In this case, I am the minister who is responsible for the law.
01:20I am not involved in the case of the Attorney General.
01:24I am not involved in the case of the State Attorney General.
01:27And I am also not involved in the case of the Agency.
01:30Because the minister who is responsible,
01:31the secretary to the case of the Attorney General,
01:33is the Minister of Regional Affairs.
01:36You, as a former Minister of Law in the government,
01:39you are definitely more reasonable than me.
01:41You do not need to refuse.
01:42No.
01:43We, the Attorney General and also Siti,
01:46are under the Ministry of Law.
01:49That means, with your permission,
01:51you are admitting that you did give direction to the Attorney General
01:54when you were the minister.
01:55Is that true?
01:55You are making an accusation.
01:56I am not.
01:58How can you make an accusation?
01:59You are making an accusation.
02:00You are making an accusation.
02:01You are making an accusation.
02:02You are making an accusation.
02:03Who else?
02:04Who is making an accusation?
02:05You are making an accusation.
02:06You are making an accusation.
02:07You are making an accusation.
02:08You are making an accusation.
02:09You are making an accusation.
02:10You are making an accusation.
02:11You are making an accusation.
02:12You are making an accusation.
02:13You are making an accusation.
02:14You are making an accusation.
02:15You are making an accusation.
02:16You are making an accusation.
02:17You are making an accusation.
02:18Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask Mr. Besut to retract his statement.
02:21What did Mr. Besut say?
02:22Macai.
02:23I said Macai.
02:24He used to say Macai to us.
02:27When? Never?
02:28Never.
02:29He said Anak Buah.
02:30That is what he meant.
02:31So, I used Macai, Anak Buah.
02:33I would like to ask Mr. Besut to retract his statement.
02:34What is Macai?
02:35You said it.
02:36What is Macai?
02:37I don't know what Macai is.
02:38Why did you use it?
02:39If you don't know, why did you use it?
02:41I used the word Macai,
02:43which means
02:45Mr. Besut, retract your statement.
02:47Mr. Besut, don't you know what it means?
02:49What is a judge's standard?
02:51Mr. Besut, let me finish.
02:53Mr. Besut, let me repeat.
02:55Mr. Besut, when I am talking to you, you listen to me.
02:59When I am talking to you, you listen to me.
03:02Do you understand what is the meaning of Macai?
03:05I understand.
03:06What is Macai?
03:07A follower.
03:08A follower.
03:09A follower.
03:10Yes.
03:11Okay, that is what you understand.
03:12Yes, I understand.
03:14I am asking you one simple question.
03:17I need one simple answer.
03:19Do you understand what is it all about?
03:21I understand.
03:22Macai.
03:23But it was once said by Jelutu,
03:26that Macai...
03:27Mr. Besut, do you understand what Macai is?
03:31Macai is a follower.
03:32A follower.
03:33A follower.
03:34Sit down.
03:35Sit down.
03:36Mr. Besut, sit down.
03:37Sit down.
03:38I understand.
03:39Sit down.
03:40Sit down.
03:41Sit down.
03:43Minister, continue.