The Miami Dolphins do not make any moves during the NFL Trade Deadline. The guys discuss how the coach and QB dynamic can alter the team's trajectory.
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00:00Mentioned the Dolphins no really moving and shaking at the deadline. That's fine. No big deal. No big deal
00:06like no big deal you
00:09There's not anything substantial you can get
00:12for any of your players
00:15Because you just paid them
00:17so nobody's gonna give up a
00:20substantial amount of money and
00:22then
00:24Or in a substantial amount of assets and then pay all that money
00:29You get off the hook twice
00:31Yeah, although they did lose a quarterback. Apparently what CJ Beathard?
00:37Poached got picked up. Yeah, the Jaguars picked them up. I would say
00:42Hear me out on this. All right
00:47In the offseason, you know who I would call
00:51Who?
00:54The old the old San Fran quarterback Garoppolo Garoppolo, yeah, that's not a bad backup
01:03Why is he doing anything right now, where is he at? Oh, he's a ramp. That's why I sent him because here's the deal. Yeah
01:11While we sitting here looking at the Wolves went to it gets hurt. Yeah, San Francisco went through the same thing
01:17Yep, for sure. Like they have a court. They had a quarterback who run this room and then anytime he got hurt
01:23Then they tried to do the Trey Lansing. Yeah, it didn't work out and then it got mr. Irrelevant, which is
01:30That worked out lucky
01:31Right. No, no, no, it's it was like
01:36You know, but but and it worked out
01:40But look at how many times
01:42You know, they had and they kind of had a very similar situation in that
01:47Garoppolo kept getting hurt
01:50Yeah
01:52Which I mean
01:54Wouldn't be the the worst option at backup. We see a lot of backup quarterbacks are currently thriving you see
02:00Sam Darnold having a hell of a season over there. Yeah, but I think for here
02:07for some guys
02:11Like I use Baker Mayfield
02:14Baker Mayfield was not bad in Cleveland. Yeah, it ended because he got hurt
02:19He played through his injury and they had to decide whether we gonna give him 30 40 50 million
02:26After coming off injury
02:28That's why he wasn't there and then he bounced around a little bit and just never found, you know a good system
02:34Now he's in a system that he can flourish in
02:38When you look at Sam Bradford see a lot of people don't give
02:43Donald same Donald a lot of people don't give
02:48Don't understand these circumstances when you a top-five draft pick
02:54You go into a bottom five team
02:58It very rarely does it happen like Chicago where Chicago had back-to-back picks over the years because they traded
03:07Because
03:08Carolina wanted Bryce young. Yeah, and then I didn't work out so they ended up with a high pick again
03:15Chicago though, they're on the brink of ruining yet another one. I saw a stat where
03:20They had a Mitchell Trubisky
03:23Top pick then they fired the coach
03:26Leave a mid to offensive systems to learn in two years, right?
03:30Let's say that's not gonna work Justin Fields same thing
03:33They brought him in fired the coach brought another one in to system two years same thing right now Caleb Williams
03:40coaches on the hot seat
03:41You know, that may be another quarterback. The Bears are ruined. So but but here's here's the thing
03:50Justin Fields had some success in Pittsburgh. Yeah, he did but it wasn't good enough
03:57He acknowledged that but it's easier to work and get better in an environment like Pittsburgh
04:05Correct. So when these young quarterbacks go to these bad teams, for example
04:11Okay, I'll use Joe Burrow for example
04:15Joe Burrow, they went to the Super Bowl his second year. Yep. They thought Joe Burrow is going to be the man forever
04:23Look at that team
04:26Like holy smokes
04:28Yeah, so no matter how good your quarterback is if he doesn't have
04:34The infrastructure for him to do his best work
04:38It's not gonna show on the football field and and Joe Burrow has a lot of success
04:43He throws the ball all over the place. He's an excellent pass or the football
04:47He can escape he can make plays all those things excellent quarterback
04:52But it's not resulting in wins
04:56and
04:57What about a quarterback that needs to develop a little bit you thrust him in and you don't have any support system?
05:04You keep changing coaches changing, you know the people in the organization and we then put it all on the quarterback
05:12So there's been quarterbacks that have bounced around and then all of a sudden
05:16They go. Oh, he found it. He thought he always had it. He just found the right situation
05:24Yeah, and and so like I don't know how many of those guys because here
05:30I'll make this point right here if I switch
05:35CJ Stroud and Bryce Young is Bryce Young having the same success as CJ Stroud
05:42No, no, you don't think so, I mean, I think he's having more success than he had in Carolina
05:48But I think she's a child's a better quarterback than Bryce. Yeah, okay, but but it's based on him being in a better infrastructure
05:54Yeah
05:56So you understand what I'm saying like what role does that play in the success or failures of a quarterback
06:04Yeah
06:05The two of that was with Brian Flores who he couldn't stand
06:09It's the same tool the same skill set
06:13He didn't all of a sudden develop this skill set
06:17Yeah, it's just that now he's in a system where that
06:21skill set can flourish
06:24And it's the only it's the only position
06:27that if not put in the right situation
06:31You can ruin one of your investments more than you can help it
06:38I know the Dolphins didn't necessarily
06:41Make any moves
06:43Right a few moves that were made
06:46Outside of them will affect them. We mentioned the big move of the Cleveland Browns defensive ends Darius Smith
06:55being
06:56Traded yesterday to the Detroit Lions
07:00The Dolphins face the Browns in week 17
07:03So, you know, you always are gonna have to deal with Myles Garrett
07:06But at least you don't have to deal with Garrett and Smith. So that helps. Yeah. Hey and and
07:12if I could I explain yesterday's is that the Darius Smith would be the equivalent to
07:18Chubb opposite Jalen Phillips. Yeah, so Chubb I have
07:23Maybe five to ten sacks, but it's because they're doubling Jalen Phillips
07:27Yeah, you need that guy on the other side. That's gonna make plays even if he's not your primary guy and
07:33Yes, was it there's time?
07:36Who as a what our guys say he has a big motor
07:42all over the field
07:44Right, so they getting a good player. They're getting a how about this? They're getting a very similar player
07:51To Aiden Hutchinson
07:55Yeah, you know very similar
07:57Not maybe not as good
08:00No for sure, but still as far as the energy the speed coming off the edge and and here's the thing
08:07Most people saying they're the best team in the NFL and they made a move to kind of you know, solidify that
08:14That's that's what I was gonna say
08:16Usually the teams that are primed for a run they make a move in the middle of the season that changes
08:23Necessarily have to be a big move. No, never they just know they just probably sat in the office and said
08:29Hey
08:30We're good, but we probably need to fortify that pass rush
08:36You've you've seen it across various sports
08:39You saw the Pistons pick up Rashid Wallace in the middle of season you saw the Panthers
08:44They signed I forgot what the guy's name was it's one of those very weird Russian names, but
08:50The the Panthers made a signing on the way
08:53Tereschenko can't I can't they was that is that a UFC fighter?
08:56I can't even keep checking their last names
08:59But you see it across the board usually teams that are primed for a run
09:02they make a pickup and I make just a just a pick that is
09:07They understand what the value that would be when a lot of people can't
09:13Um when it when it was a Darius
09:17Everybody saw the benefits of that which is weird, right?
09:20No, because usually you assign a guy say oh we can get some depth at this position or whatever
09:26They like everybody in the league was like, oh my goodness. Yeah easy. No-brainer. Of course, right? No-brainer
09:33Now I got it
09:34I got a question for you to see if teams are this petty or this if they if they look this hard
09:39Yes
09:41If does
09:44DeAndre Hopkins being picked up by the Chiefs way into Detroit's urgency and getting another pass rusher
09:51I
09:52Don't I don't necessarily think so. I think at this portion of the season
10:00You just trying to get through your conference
10:03Yeah, right like you can't be worried about the Super Bowl
10:06You got a long way to go and I don't know if Detroit ever been there
10:10So now you worry about Super Bowl pump your brakes
10:13Yeah, right you you you do what you got to do to get through the NFC
10:18Yeah, and don't worry about it. It's like
10:21in college football one of the things about the playoff that has is
10:27So amazing to me is when I was in college
10:31our coach used to always say
10:34You play the style of football that gets you through your conference
10:37And then deal with the the national championship ramifications after that, but if you bring a style of football
10:45That works in the SEC, but it don't work in a Big Ten
10:48You ain't gonna never get through the Big Ten and nobody's gonna care
10:51so
10:52what
10:54Detroit has to do is they have to look at their schedule. They have to look at their their division is really tough
11:01Yeah, it is. And so
11:03That's what they have to concentrate on right now
11:07Yeah, when they get to the playoffs
11:09they got to concentrate on the two games or three games that they're gonna have to play and
11:14Then once you get to the Super Bowl, you start worried about who you gonna play, but you can't start worrying about the
11:23Super Bowl without going through all these other teams because keep in mind they also have in the back of their mind last year
11:29They didn't get there. Yeah
11:31Yeah, you know what the I think you're right there they're in a very tough division
11:35They're probably just doing what they need to do to become the best team that they can
11:41Yeah
11:43You dealing with
11:45Green Bay Green Bay and their mobile
11:49Minnesota not so mobile, but they quick strike
11:53Then you got you know, then you got Caleb Williams and and so you think in the quarterbacks you got to play with
12:01Play-againts and the weapons they have on offense. Yeah
12:05Is either one of two ways you can go DB or rush?
12:09No scrubs in that, you know, you're not saying no
12:13No, no offense to Drake me. He's actually doing well, but you know, you're not like, oh, okay. We got this one
12:18We got we got Bryce young this week guys
12:20Young two times this year, right? Exactly. Exactly. So yeah that that's I think they did it
12:29From the standpoint of their team
12:33not worrying about who they're gonna play and
12:36They're trying to put the best team they can
12:39on the field
12:41yeah, because
12:43like you
12:45They end up in it. I don't know. I think they haven't been to a Super Bowl. I don't think so. I think so
12:52So like yeah, hey
12:55Nobody gives a rat's ass about Kansas City at this point zero. I know they haven't Cleveland hasn't
13:06Texans
13:07They're young Jaguars. They're young. No Jaguars went to sue. Oh, they went to championship game. Yeah
13:15Carolina went Carolina Jacksonville came into the league the same year
13:19Carolina been to two Super Bowls. I want to say yeah
13:23First one against New England second one against Denver, I think right. So so yeah, so
13:31Was that one of four teams that haven't been?
13:33Yes, four teams that have not been right. So
13:39Yeah, you got Detroit Cleveland
13:42Jacksonville in Texas Cleveland reached the AFC championship in 86 87 and 89 and lost all three to John Elwood. Yep
13:52That's gotta wait. You want to hear the crazy one? Yeah, they were going in the score
14:01And earns by the fumbled in the end zone and I went for a touch back touch back
14:07And then at the end of the game John Elwood went 99 yards, oh
14:12Is that the helicopter that's not the helicopter is it? No, that's the helicopter was in a Super Bowl down here. Oh, that's right
14:18Against Green Bay. I want to say was a green. Yeah, I think it was I think you're right
14:24Yep, and that's why remember when remember when Cleveland when the Cavs won us the
14:31When the championship was won. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's
14:37They invited her in his binder. Oh
14:40That's nice. Yeah
14:42Yeah, I wouldn't show my face it
14:45But he ended up like they traded him right after that. Duh to Washington. Yeah, he went won a Super Bowl
14:53There you go. Then he came back to Cleveland. Oh, that's nice of him to like write his laws or something like that
14:58No, they they wanted him back
15:01Well, he was on a team that went to Baltimore
15:04Ah