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Nakami ki Bari Wajah Waqt ki Farawani Janiye Haroon Rafiq Say
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00:00Welcome back, viewers. Yes, Irza?
00:05Yes, Mr. Haroon. What are we going to talk about today?
00:07Today, a very important topic.
00:09You know, Mr. Usman, my good friend,
00:12Yes.
00:13has come with me today.
00:14So, on the way, we were discussing
00:16why we were so behind.
00:18We were talking about economics in Pakistan.
00:21So, we kept arguing with each other
00:23and gave advice to each other
00:25that we should think this way, we should think that way.
00:28But it boiled down to one thing.
00:30Like, usually, if you start taking things out of their tanks,
00:34if you start boiling them,
00:36then what is left at the end,
00:38that is actually a complete waste.
00:41Exactly.
00:42That is its waste.
00:43Like, for example, if a car is running,
00:46then who is driving that car?
00:48Some engine is running.
00:49What is the engine running on?
00:50It is running on heat.
00:51Where is the heat coming from?
00:52It is coming from fire.
00:53How is the fire burning?
00:54It is coming from petrol.
00:55Where is the petrol coming from?
00:56It is coming from the ground.
00:57Why is the petrol coming from the ground?
00:58Why is the petrol being made?
00:59Because it is buried in the ground.
01:01What was it before?
01:02It was a tree.
01:03How did that tree grow?
01:05It grew from the sun.
01:06So, ultimately, the car is running on the sun.
01:08If there was no sun, the car would not run.
01:10Actually, their question was that
01:12like there are a lot of applications,
01:14like Instagram, YouTube, Facebook,
01:16what is all this?
01:18It is just an application.
01:19It is just a coding
01:20which has been written in a special way.
01:22And when it has been compiled,
01:25when it has been executed,
01:26it has become an application.
01:27And from that application,
01:29they are earning billions of dollars.
01:31Can't we make an application like this?
01:33Even if it is not worth hundreds of dollars,
01:36even if it is worth 10 billion,
01:3910 billion dollars,
01:40even if it is not worth 100 billion dollars,
01:42even if it is worth 10 billion dollars,
01:44why are we not able to make it?
01:45There is a reason for that,
01:46which I understood.
01:47One of the reasons.
01:48I am not saying that this is the reason.
01:50One of the reasons.
01:51I saw that we have a lot of time.
01:54We have a lot of time.
01:55We have a lot of time.
01:57You call someone right now
01:59and tell him that
02:01there is a conversation going on at one place
02:04on a certain philosophy.
02:05Come, let's go and listen.
02:07He will tell you that
02:08those kids are at home,
02:09so I am also at home.
02:10Guests are about to come.
02:11You tell him right now
02:12that let's go to eat Harissa.
02:13He will say,
02:14let's go brother, let's go brother.
02:15This is what happens.
02:16This is what happens.
02:17You can ask anyone.
02:18You can ask anyone.
02:20Life,
02:21I swear by God,
02:22people are living like this
02:23and thinking that
02:24we are doing a lot of work.
02:25If we are going to the office,
02:26go to the office,
02:27work and come home.
02:28That's it, now I am tired.
02:29Now I have done a lot of work.
02:31And if you have this time
02:34that you can watch TV in vain,
02:37can go out with friends,
02:39can eat food.
02:40And brother,
02:41this country is not tolerant of this thing.
02:44I do not believe
02:45that our IT professionals
02:47can not make anything new.
02:49But our thinking is tied
02:52because as soon as we leave the office,
02:54we feel that we are free.
02:56Now it's time for me to enjoy.
02:58It's time for them to enjoy
03:00who have done all this hard work.
03:02Now it's time for us to work hard.
03:05Your job starts after the job.
03:08The real thing is
03:09why ideas are not coming in our mind.
03:11Why didn't the idea of Instagram
03:13come in the mind of any Pakistani?
03:15Or didn't Facebook come?
03:16Or didn't Google come, let's say?
03:18Any application in AI?
03:20This is the reason for that.
03:21I am talking in general.
03:22The reason for that is
03:24what we do is
03:25that we understand
03:27that now the time has come
03:29that now we have to rest.
03:30Or go out with friends.
03:32You call someone
03:33and go to donate blood.
03:34He will say,
03:35Oh no, actually
03:36I gave my blood yesterday.
03:37Or blood.
03:38Tell someone,
03:39I made a plan in the morning
03:40that all my friends
03:41come, come, come.
03:42This is how it happens.
03:43Set the location,
03:44I will reach.
03:45I will reach.
03:46Ask the blood donor,
03:47everyone says
03:48that I am taking the medicine
03:49of hepatitis.
03:50You tell him
03:51that may God give you health.
03:53And if you are lying,
03:54then let's go.
03:55No, I often lie.
03:56Okay, I think
03:57whoever donates blood,
03:58he does it without checking.
04:01Okay, in fact,
04:02once he said to a friend,
04:03take my blood.
04:04You said,
04:05let it be,
04:06you take the medicine of hepatitis.
04:11Look,
04:12where our country is standing,
04:14we don't have time.
04:1610-15 years ago,
04:18when I used to go out of the country,
04:19you will be surprised.
04:20In fact, everyone knows
04:21who lives abroad,
04:22they go.
04:23They know
04:24that those who did not go
04:25at that time,
04:26I will tell them
04:27that believe me,
04:28when we used to sit in the bus,
04:29every man was reading a book.
04:31We used to sit in the train,
04:32be it a child,
04:33be it an adult,
04:34be it an old man,
04:35be it a woman,
04:36be it a man,
04:37or then Mr. Agha,
04:38whoever it is,
04:39he was reading a book.
04:42Okay, this practice,
04:43Mr. Haroon,
04:44I have still seen it
04:45in foreign countries.
04:46Yes, it is still there.
04:47Where does it not happen?
04:48It will not be seen
04:49anywhere in Pakistan.
04:50The book here
04:51is considered a burden.
04:52If you become a reader,
04:53this is an open book in front of you.
04:55Okay, this is a broken book.
04:57This is the book
04:58whose skin has also been torn.
04:59Once upon a time,
05:00with my friend,
05:01we used to go
05:02after the university,
05:03sometime to the fees center
05:04or if you want to buy anything,
05:05then he used to hide the book.
05:07I used to tell him
05:08that keep it with the handle.
05:10When we come back,
05:11it will be here
05:12and will not go anywhere.
05:13No one will steal the book.
05:14No one will steal the book
05:15from you.
05:16Yes, you are absolutely right.
05:17When you go out,
05:18you see the libraries there.
05:19Someone has said
05:20a very beautiful thing
05:21that if there is no sound
05:22of children playing
05:23in the mosque,
05:24then the future
05:25is not good.
05:26Similarly,
05:27if you go to the libraries
05:28outside today,
05:29you will be amazed
05:30to see the libraries
05:31there.
05:32I went to a library
05:33in Europe the other day.
05:34That library
05:35was surrounded
05:36by many floors.
05:37The section
05:38of children
05:39in that library
05:40was so big
05:41that you could
05:42see the whole library
05:43from inside.
05:44You could see
05:45the library
05:46from inside.
05:47It was so big
05:48that you could
05:49not even
05:50go around it.
05:51There were children
05:52in that library.
05:53Parents were there
05:54with the children.
05:55Children were making
05:56something there,
05:57learning something
05:58and reading something.
05:59They were getting
06:00an environment.
06:01When they grow up,
06:02where will they
06:03feel good?
06:04In the library.
06:05Absolutely.
06:06Here,
06:07it is the opposite.
06:08We say,
06:09go to the food street.
06:10It will be fun
06:11at night.
06:12We will eat Khad.
06:13Every town
06:14has its own library.
06:15Every town
06:16has its own library.
06:17Every town
06:18has its own library.
06:19Every town
06:20has its own library.
06:21I feel that
06:22every university
06:23that has a library
06:24should have
06:25one door
06:26on the street
06:27so that
06:28anyone can
06:29come and
06:30read a book.
06:31Here,
06:32the environment
06:33of libraries
06:34is such
06:35that
06:36when you
06:37enter,
06:38a common man
06:39gets scared
06:40that he needs
06:41a membership
06:42and he should
06:43not be thrown
06:44out of the library.
06:45When did the
06:46destruction
06:47of Muslims
06:48start?
06:49Look at the date.
06:50Before that,
06:51when did the
06:52destruction of
06:53other nations
06:54start?
06:55When did the
06:56destruction
06:57of knowledge
06:58start?
06:59True.
07:00The real thing
07:01is knowledge.
07:02Didn't the
07:03pagers
07:04explode
07:05in one place
07:06in the last few
07:07days?
07:08Absolutely.
07:09The pagers
07:10exploded,
07:11right?
07:12They had
07:13so many books
07:14that sometimes
07:15it is surprising
07:16that these books
07:17are still there.
07:18Books,
07:19newspapers,
07:20magazines
07:21which are rare
07:22are still
07:23there.
07:24And the
07:25other thing is
07:26that the
07:27poverty of
07:28books is such
07:29that when
07:30in 2007-10
07:31I had a session
07:32of Punjab
07:33University,
07:34the library
07:35there is also
07:36great.
07:37I used to
07:38issue a lot
07:39of books
07:40from there
07:41only because
07:42of the
07:43library.
07:44But I used
07:45to issue
07:46a lot of
07:47books only
07:48because
07:49of the
07:50library.
07:51The
07:52interesting
07:53thing is
07:54that there
07:55were book
07:56clubs.
07:57Not
07:58everyone
07:59can go
08:00to the
08:01Punjab
08:02Public
08:03Library
08:04and read
08:05books.
08:06It
08:07takes time
08:08to reach
08:09there.
08:10So,
08:11we used
08:12to go
08:13to the
08:14book club
08:15in
08:16Gulberg.
08:17So,
08:18if your
08:19child doesn't
08:20want to buy
08:21a book,
08:22he is asking
08:23for a toy,
08:24take him to
08:25the book
08:26shop.
08:27Tell him
08:28to go
08:29around
08:30for a
08:31while.
08:32He will
08:33surely
08:34pick up
08:35a book.
08:36Because
08:37reading
08:38books is
08:39in the
08:40mind.
08:41So,
08:42we used
08:43to go
08:44to the
08:45book club
08:46in
08:47Gulberg.
08:48So,
08:49we used
08:50to go
08:51to the
08:52book
08:53club
08:54in
08:55Gulberg.
08:56So,
08:57we used
08:58to go
08:59to the
09:00book
09:01club
09:02in
09:03Gulberg.
09:04So,
09:05we used
09:06to go
09:07to the
09:08book
09:09club
09:10in
09:11Gulberg.
09:12So,
09:13the
09:14only
09:15reason
09:16he
09:17went
09:18to the
09:19book
09:20club
09:21was
09:22because
09:23he
09:24still
09:25wants
09:26to
09:27read
09:28books.
09:29So,
09:30we
09:31used
09:32to
09:33go
09:34to the
09:35book
09:36club
09:37in
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