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00:00As-salamu alaikum, dear viewers, Dr. Muhammad Tahir Mustafa is here with you from the Itahad-e-Ummah
00:27program.
00:29Dear viewers, the poet of the East, Hazrat Allama Iqbal, has expressed how saddened he is
00:37that the Haram-e-Paq, Allah, and Quran of this Ummah are one.
00:45What a great thing it would have been if the Muslims were one.
00:49Dear viewers, instead of being one, we have been divided.
00:57Which inhuman forces have divided us on the basis of religion,
01:05have divided us into sects, have divided us on the basis of language.
01:11He is Punjabi, he is Pashtun, he speaks Urdu.
01:16On this basis too, hatred has been created within us.
01:20We have been divided on the basis of colour and race.
01:24We have been divided on the basis of nationality.
01:28Dear viewers, what are the reasons for this division?
01:31We should have been united.
01:33As Allama has said, our Kaaba is one, our Allah is one, our Prophet is one, our book is one.
01:44So what were the reasons for which we were divided?
01:48Dear viewers, we are going to discuss this today.
01:51And to discuss this topic in the programme Ittihad-e-Ummat,
01:55our guest today is sitting on my right.
01:58Mr. Raja Yasir Humayun,
02:02you were a former minister of IT and higher education.
02:07Peace be upon you.
02:08Peace be upon you too.
02:09Is everything alright?
02:10Thank God.
02:11Thank you very much for coming.
02:12Dear viewers, he is sitting on my left.
02:14First of all, Dr. Pir Syed Habib Irfani,
02:19he was a former member of the Islamic Council.
02:22And he is the son-in-law of Sundar Sharif.
02:25Peace be upon you.
02:26Peace be upon you too.
02:28How are you?
02:29I am fine.
02:30Dear viewers, Dr. Allama Ziaullah Shah Bukhari is sitting next to him.
02:35He is the ambassador of the Quran, the Hadith and the Islam.
02:40He was also a former member of the Islamic Council.
02:44He is our guest today.
02:45Peace be upon you.
02:46Peace be upon you too.
02:48Is everything alright?
02:49Thank God.
02:50Thank you very much.
02:51You came from Sahiwal after offering Jumah.
02:53Thank God.
02:54Thank you very much.
02:55Mr. Raja, I would like to tell you,
02:59as I have said in my initial speeches,
03:02that our Allah is one, our Haram is one,
03:06our Prophet is one, our book is one,
03:09our beginning is one, our end is one.
03:13And we are proud to be called a nation.
03:17But still, why is the unity of the nation lost in us?
03:22What are the reasons in your view?
03:25You have been the minister of higher education.
03:28So, surely, you will have your own analysis.
03:30What do you think?
03:31But the first thing that needs to be clarified is what do we mean by unity?
03:37Yes.
03:38But unity does not mean that things should be identical.
03:44Right.
03:45If Arabs wear the same clothes, Punjabis wear the same, Sindhis wear the same.
03:49Right.
03:50Or we start speaking the same language.
03:51Right.
03:52Or our culture becomes the same.
03:53Basically, unity means that you walk in harmony with each other.
03:59And maintain your existence.
04:01Maintain your existence and have a harmonious relationship with each other.
04:05Right.
04:06Just like a unit, all its components are not the same.
04:11Some do one thing, some do another.
04:13Right.
04:14So, just like a unit, we are like its different components.
04:20And if we can walk together, then this will be unity.
04:24If we highlight our differences,
04:27if we emphasize them more and make them a part of our identity,
04:32then there will be a difference.
04:34Right.
04:35If we want to establish our supremacy.
04:39If we want to establish our supremacy and make it the first component of our identity.
04:43Right.
04:44Whereas, if our fundamental identity is Islam, being a Muslim, believing in Allah,
04:50this should be the first component of our identity.
04:52And we should play down the things that make us different.
04:56Because there will be differences.
04:58Absolutely.
04:59There will be differences in people from one place to another.
05:01There will be differences in thoughts.
05:03Even your theology will be different.
05:05Your belief system will be different.
05:07Despite that, you can remain of that unity,
05:10as long as you don't make it a fundamental part of your identity.
05:14Right.
05:15We should keep the fundamental part of our identity,
05:18on which everyone agrees.
05:20Like you said, if there are different sects,
05:22then there are common things in them.
05:24Your Allah is common, Rasool is common,
05:27Kaaba is common, Namaz is common, Qibla is common.
05:30So, you emphasize the common things.
05:32And play down the places where differences are created.
05:36For example, when Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him,
05:40created the state of Medina,
05:42its fundamental component was that even non-Muslims
05:45agree on the fact that they believe in Allah.
05:48We can agree with them.
05:50So, our basic difference is only with non-believers,
05:53who deny, or reject, or with polytheists.
05:57Those who believe in Allah, we can also agree with them on something.
06:01All communities exist.
06:05Similarly, in our Ummah, where many things are common,
06:08we can emphasize on the common things and stay united.
06:12And the second problem, which you said,
06:14what is the reason for the difference,
06:16is that we mix religion and political Islam.
06:20Right.
06:21We should keep political Islam and religion different from each other.
06:26I think when religion is complete,
06:28when our beloved Rasool delivered the final message,
06:33when religion is complete,
06:35the history after that is a political history.
06:40We can't mix that with religion.
06:42If we do, there will be a difference,
06:44because there are political differences.
06:46If we try to keep these two things independent,
06:51and stay united on our fundamental beliefs,
06:55I don't think there will be an issue.
06:57Right.
06:58Mr. Rai, what you said,
07:01is this theory correct?
07:03Political Islam, spiritual Islam?
07:07Look, political Islam means,
07:11when a state is established,
07:13then of course there will be politics to run it.
07:17The system is a political system.
07:20Khilafat-e-Rashidah...
07:22Islam can have a component.
07:24But that component, you can't mix it with religion.
07:28It's written in the Quran,
07:31that this is the way to get elected,
07:34there should be democracy.
07:36Allah has left it to man.
07:39He has given a general definition.
07:42But it hasn't been defined.
07:44Exactly.
07:45That this is how it should be done.
07:47Because that is not part of the religion.
07:49Although religion can be a guide for everything,
07:53but why is it necessary to go into minute details?
07:57The creator knows better than us.
07:59He has left it to you.
08:01That's why we will have to keep political Islam separate.
08:04Especially after Khilafat-e-Rashidah,
08:07if you mix it up with religion,
08:10then there will be more differences.
08:13And in my opinion,
08:14it's better not to mix it up with religion after the Prophethood.
08:19With your permission,
08:21you may proceed.
08:23Alhamdulillah.
08:25Mr. Irfani,
08:26our conversation started beautifully.
08:29Mr. Rai emphasized that
08:32unity does not mean that
08:35everyone should end their existence and become immortal.
08:39Certainly.
08:40No.
08:41Everyone should maintain their status
08:44and there should be harmony with it.
08:46There should be mutual understanding.
08:48There are different colors of Kaws-e-Kaza.
08:51I cannot deny the existence of any color.
08:54But when we combine those colors,
08:57it becomes a beautiful flower.
08:59What would you say about this?
09:02As Mr. Rai has said,
09:05there is a difference,
09:08a distinction.
09:10There is a lot of difference between the two.
09:12There is a difference in a human being.
09:15There is a difference in everything.
09:17There is a difference in language.
09:19There is a difference in lifestyle.
09:21There is a difference in a lot of things.
09:24Similarly,
09:25if we look at the religion of Islam,
09:28there are different ways of prayer.
09:30The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him,
09:33offered his prayers in different ways.
09:36The Quran also says,
09:40O Messenger of Allah,
09:44when you stand, Allah looks at you.
09:49Now,
09:50let me put it this way.
09:52For example,
09:53there is a difference between me and Mr. Shah.
09:55Mr. Shah offers his prayers with his hands on his chest.
09:58I offer my prayers with my hands under my navel.
10:00Mr. Shah says, Ameen Bijahar.
10:02I don't say Bijahar.
10:04Mr. Shah does Rafa Yadain.
10:06I don't do it.
10:07Now,
10:08if this difference is brought into a dispute,
10:12it is against the teachings of the religion of Islam.
10:16The way Mr. Shah offers his prayers
10:19is not different from the Sunnah.
10:23The way I offer my prayers
10:26is also not different from the Sunnah.
10:28Now,
10:29the real thing is prayer.
10:30Is there a denial of prayer anywhere?
10:32If there is a denial of prayer,
10:34then it is a matter of dispute.
10:36Therefore, we should be divided.
10:38Absolutely right.
10:39If someone talks about prayer,
10:41it is in the style of prayer.
10:43And this is also the case
10:45that the Messenger of Allah,
10:47peace and blessings of Allah be upon him,
10:49offered his prayers according to these three styles.
10:51Absolutely right.
10:52And this is the beauty and glory of this Ummah
10:54that Allah has kept every style of our Prophet alive.
10:57He has kept it alive.
10:58Now,
10:59if I start saying that
11:01the way I am,
11:03only that is Islam.
11:05The way I am,
11:06is different from Islam.
11:07Then,
11:08it will be unjust for me.
11:10Or,
11:11if Mr. Shah starts saying this,
11:13then it will be unjust for me.
11:15We should take this matter in such a way
11:17that it is a matter of dispute.
11:19And this dispute,
11:20just like the Prophet,
11:21peace and blessings of Allah be upon him,
11:23said that
11:24dispute is the cause of good in my Ummah.
11:26Now,
11:27this dispute,
11:28which the different Imams,
11:30Imam Abu Hanifa,
11:32Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal,
11:34or Imam Jafar-e-Sadiq,
11:36they did research,
11:38they did their own practice,
11:40and the thing that they found to be better,
11:42they did it on their Muqallidin.
11:45They did it in such a way.
11:47Now,
11:48this is not Iman,
11:49that you should offer your prayers like this.
11:51This is Iman.
11:52Offering prayers is Iman.
11:54Offering prayers,
11:56is the Sunnah of the Prophet,
11:58peace and blessings of Allah be upon him.
12:00He can do it like this,
12:01or like this,
12:02or like this.
12:03One way,
12:04one thing,
12:05that having the spirit of Qibla,
12:07having the time for prayer,
12:09the body,
12:10the conditions of prayer,
12:12for me and for Shah Sahib,
12:14there is no difference in the conditions.
12:16If there is a difference in the conditions,
12:18then there will be a difference in the religion of Iman.
12:20Yes, right.
12:21You guided us very beautifully.
12:24Shah Sahib,
12:25with your permission,
12:26can I take a break?
12:27Yes, of course.
12:28Then we will listen to you with complete satisfaction and attention.
12:30Ladies and gentlemen,
12:31today's program is a special one.
12:33It is a Waqfah.
12:34And in Waqfah,
12:35we go to Darbar-e-Risalat once
12:37and at the personal abode of our Prophet,
12:39peace and blessings of Allah be upon him,
12:41in a Wali style,
12:43we present the Durood-e-Kareem and return.
12:45After Waqfah,
12:46ladies and gentlemen,
12:47we are again at your service.
12:48This is RYQ TV,
12:49Lahore Studios
12:50and our program is
12:51Ittihad-e-Ummat.
12:52And today,
12:53our guests are
12:54Raja Yasir Humayun,
12:56Dr. Muhammad Habib Irfani,
12:59and Allama Zia-Ullah Shah Bukhari.
13:02Mr. Shah,
13:03may I present myself to you?
13:04Yes.
13:10This is the slogan of our program
13:12and also the jhumar of
13:14Ittihad-e-Ummat.
13:18This is the decision of the Holy Qur'an.
13:22I would like to
13:23continue
13:24what Dr. Habib Irfani said.
13:27As he said,
13:29there are similarities
13:31within us,
13:33but there are also differences.
13:36What is the status of those differences
13:38and what are the components of
13:40Ittihad-e-Ummat in that?
13:42In the name of Allah,
13:43the Most Gracious, the Ever Merciful.
13:44Undoubtedly,
13:45Ittihad-e-Ummat
13:46is the will of Allah.
13:48And this is the blessed teaching
13:50of the Holy Prophet,
13:51the Most Forgiving,
13:52the Most Merciful,
13:53the Most Forgiving,
13:54the Most Forgiving,
13:55the Most Forgiving,
13:56the Most Merciful.
13:57The Holy Prophet,
13:58the Most Forgiving,
13:59the Most Merciful.
14:00He practically made his Ummah
14:01into one Ummah
14:02and his intellectual,
14:04practical,
14:05and different tribes,
14:07different areas,
14:09different languages,
14:11different cultures,
14:12but despite this,
14:13you see,
14:14Hazrat Salman was from
14:15Persia,
14:16he came from
14:17Abu Hurairah, Yemen,
14:19Hazrat Bilal was from
14:20Abyssinia,
14:21Hazrat Suhaib was from
14:22Rumi,
14:23Muhajir Ansar,
14:24Hazrat Salman himself
14:25has mentioned these
14:26different tribes in
14:27the Quran.
14:28These were different tribes.
14:29The tribes were also
14:30different.
14:31The Holy Prophet himself
14:32said about himself
14:33that I am from Hashim.
14:34So,
14:35Allah has gathered
14:36all of them together
14:37and then
14:38Allah himself
14:39as the Lord of the Worlds
14:40has given us the command
14:41that
14:42I will divide them
14:43in the way of Allah
14:44and not separate them.
14:45What is my intention?
14:46That you see me as
14:47one.
14:48The method of
14:49Ittihad,
14:50Allah has taught us
14:51its foundation,
14:52its foundation,
14:53its foundation
14:54is the love of Allah
14:55and his beloved people.
14:56Allah's love,
14:57Allah's unity,
14:58and the Book of Allah
14:59as Hazrat Raia
15:00and Haji Salman
15:01and Haji Arfani
15:02were saying.
15:04So,
15:05our communities
15:06are truly
15:07our beliefs
15:08and our beliefs
15:09are the foundation.
15:10Even today,
15:11Alhamdulillah,
15:12in the last 1400 years
15:13there has never been
15:14a difference.
15:15Exactly.
15:16On Allah's unity,
15:17you see,
15:18all are united.
15:19On the end of the
15:20Prophethood,
15:21there is unity
15:22Istiqbal-e-Qibla, what is our Qibla, we all agree on that.
15:27There is no difference between the five prayers and the fasts of Ramadhan.
15:34There is no group of Muslims who say that they will not fast in Ramadhan.
15:36We have to fast in some other month.
15:39Everyone has the same point of view on this.
15:44We all agree on the days of Hajj-e-Baitullah.
15:47The principles of our religion, our principles,
15:51the Ummah has never disagreed on them in the last 1400 years.
15:55And the details, as Mr. Arfani was explaining,
16:01the details of the prayers, the fasts, the rituals of Hajj-e-Baitullah,
16:06the difference in the interpretation and interpretation,
16:10there is a difference in the verses of the Quran in the Sahaba-e-Ikram.
16:14There is a Hadith in the Sahaba-e-Ikram in the understanding of Naipa-Sallam.
16:19It is such a famous incident.
16:20Naipa-Sallam sent a group of Sahaba-e-Ikram,
16:23that you have to go so fast that you have to reach a certain tribe and offer the Asr prayer.
16:29Now what happened, the time for Asr prayer came on the way.
16:32One group of Sahaba-e-Ikram said,
16:35that Naipa-Sallam's intention was that you have to reach there quickly,
16:38but it was not the intention that if the time for Asr prayer came, you have to offer it.
16:42So we should offer the Asr prayer and then reach there.
16:45The other group of Sahaba-e-Ikram said that your intention was that you have to offer the Asr prayer there.
16:51Half of the Sahaba-e-Ikram offered the Asr prayer on the way,
16:53the other group of Sahaba-e-Ikram kept walking and they offered the Asr prayer there.
16:56When Naipa-Sallam heard both of them, he did not say anything wrong.
17:00Naipa-Sallam also said that when the interpretation of the Holy Quran
17:06or the interpretation of any of my sayings,
17:09the Ummah will have a disagreement.
17:11Arabic
17:18If someone makes an Ijtihad in the meaning of Taayyun,
17:21and his Taayyun will be correct in the eyes of Allah.
17:24Now only Allah and Naipa-Sallam know the correct meaning of Taayyun.
17:29So he said that if his Taayyun is correct in the meaning of Taayyun,
17:33then he will get double reward.
17:34One is to make an Ijtihad and the other is to make it correct.
17:38And if he makes a mistake,
17:40and his Taayyun was not correct in the meaning of Taayyun,
17:43but he made an Ijtihad, then he will not be a sinner.
17:46He will still get double reward.
17:51So the disagreement in our interpretations is not a sin,
17:58it is also a reward.
18:00I would like to say that if there is a mistake in the interpretation of the Holy Quran
18:03that we consider to be a secret for us,
18:08from the time of the companions to the present,
18:12then it is still a reward.
18:18Absolutely right.
18:20Mr. Shah, it is very beautiful.
18:21Mr. Rai, I would like to come back to you.
18:24You are the Minister of Higher Education.
18:28You travel the world.
18:31We are the Ummah of the Holy Prophet,
18:34and we are proud of it.
18:37But unfortunately, we are not united.
18:43We are divided on the basis of religion.
18:47Have you noticed that the Ummah of the Holy Prophet,
18:55if they do not have this thing,
19:00then why do we have it?
19:02Where is the error?
19:04How is it possible that the situation is resolved
19:07by the one who has created a lot of confusion?
19:11Where is this confusion?
19:12I think this is the evolution of history,
19:17and this is the force of history.
19:20All the religions you have,
19:23all of them have differences and differences.
19:27The real question is how do you practice it?
19:29Because either you or I are responsible for it.
19:33We have to account for ourselves.
19:35Do we fall into the division or do we go towards unity?
19:38Mr. Shah said a very beautiful thing.
19:40Do you want to appreciate diversity,
19:44or do you want to put a division on its basis?
19:47So if you say that all people should be united,
19:51it is not possible.
19:53Allah said that the community that He mentioned,
19:56that will be successful in the hereafter,
19:58the one who firmly holds on to the rope of God,
20:01it can be related to any religion.
20:06It is not just one community.
20:07They are the people who have established unity.
20:10They have established it on a basis.
20:12Exactly.
20:13I really appreciate the beautiful thing you said.
20:18So to remain firm on that is the fundamental thing.
20:22Dr. Habib Irfani, I am here again to you.
20:26You are the founder of the Khankah,
20:29and your doctorate is on the Khankahi system.
20:33How does a Khankah unite people?
20:37How does it end hatred?
20:41Dr. Sahib, Imam Bishr-e-Hafi, may Allah have mercy on him,
20:45in Baghdad Sharif, your shrine is blessed,
20:49there is a writing written there,
20:51that do not ask the one who comes here about his religion.
20:55Ask him if he needs food, if he needs it.
21:00Before that, ask him about food.
21:02Now this Khankah,
21:06there are two or three things in it,
21:09if we look at it,
21:10the Muslims ruled in Spain for 800 years.
21:14This India also ruled for 800 years.
21:17Today, in Spain, there is no call for Allah-u-Akbar in the mosques.
21:22There is no corner of this small country,
21:25where there is no call for Allah-u-Akbar for five days.
21:30And in my opinion, the reason for that is,
21:32that in Spain, there is no shrine of any Dada Ali Hajweri,
21:36or Khwaja Muinuddin Chishti, or any other saint,
21:41who has brought up people,
21:43who has brought people on this path,
21:46who has taught and encouraged people on this path.
21:50The reason for their existence in this field is,
21:54that they, in this way, there is another incident,
21:58that there was a student of his, a disciple of his,
22:02when he was free from training and education,
22:06he asked permission to go to a certain area
22:10and preach the religion.
22:12His teacher instructed him,
22:16to try not to move his tongue.
22:19Allah-u-Akbar.
22:20Your attitude, your style, your way,
22:23should be such that people are impressed,
22:25that, okay, he is a Muslim.
22:27Wow.
22:28Now, if we look at today's time,
22:31many people, in my personal knowledge,
22:35a non-Muslim person said,
22:37that Islam is a very good religion.
22:40I have studied it.
22:42But, Islam is good, but Muslims are not good.
22:46Because we are not following the teachings of Islam.
22:50Now, in Islam, if we look at one thing,
22:54if we look at the example of the Prophet, peace be upon him,
22:58then, which part of life is such,
23:02in which you do not get the teachings?
23:05Which method, which style is such,
23:08that if we look at the relationship between parents and children,
23:11the relationship between husband and wife,
23:13the relationship with neighbours,
23:15the relationship with other relatives,
23:17it is categorised with everyone.
23:20Even, if you have to give Zakat,
23:23or if you have to spend it in the way of Allah,
23:25then its categories are given,
23:27first of all, who should you look at?
23:29After that, who should you be?
23:31So, this thing in it,
23:33that when it comes to morality,
23:35and if we look at it,
23:37that which the saints took with them,
23:39then the instruction of the Prophet, peace be upon him,
23:43that, I have been sent into this universe
23:47to improve the morals of the people.
23:51If we look at the teachings of the Prophet, peace be upon him,
23:56if we look at his commandments,
23:58in the Quran, and even in the Quran,
24:00that his morals are the best in this universe.
24:05So, the thing is that,
24:08we are forbidden to be arrogant in Islam.
24:12But, we go into arrogance,
24:14we know others as lowly, we know others as lowly.
24:17So, this attitude,
24:19This affection and love,
24:21this creates harmony and unity.
24:23Yes, yes, absolutely right.
24:25Shah sahib, with your permission,
24:27I will take a break and listen to you carefully.
24:30But, I would like to say that,
24:32the guidance I would like to take from you,
24:34for my viewers, is this,
24:36that, there is a holy hadith,
24:39Al-Khalq-u-Ayaal-Allah.
24:42Is this from me or from Shah sahib?
24:43From Shah sahib.
24:44I would like to say,
24:45that, this whole creation is the cradle of Allah.
24:49And then,
24:50Yadullahil-Al-Jamaat.
24:52Allah's hand is on that Jamaat.
24:54What is the superiority and importance of this?
24:56We will talk about this after the break.
24:58Ladies and gentlemen, it is a very beautiful conversation.
25:00The programme is called, Itahad-e-Ummat.
25:02And, ARYQ TV, Lahore Studios,
25:04is a Waqfah in the programme.
25:06And, once again, we go to the Waqfah,
25:08to the Darbar-e-Risalat.
25:09And, our Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him,
25:13from where the thunders of unity break,
25:15in a grand manner,
25:17we present the Durood-e-Kareem and come back.
25:20After the Waqfah, ladies and gentlemen,
25:21we are again at your service.
25:22ARYQ TV, Lahore Studios,
25:24and our programme is,
25:25Itahad-e-Ummat.
25:27Yes, Shah sahib, I had said before the Waqfah,
25:29Yadullahil-Al-Jamaat.
25:31And, Al-Khalq-ul-Ayaal-Allah.
25:33How can we establish a connection between these two?
25:36Look, as far as Yadullahil-Al-Jamaat is concerned,
25:38the Hadith of the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, is pure.
25:42That, Yadullahil-Alaikum Bil-Jamaa'ah.
25:45It is necessary to hold on to the life of the congregation.
25:48The congregation of the Muslims is the aim of Islam.
25:52You see, Namaz, Panigana, Bajamaat,
25:55its importance has been mentioned.
25:57Then, the congregation on the day of Jummah is greater than that.
26:00Then, Hajj-e-Baitullah, Eid-e-Ahl, is greater than that.
26:03Then, Hajj-e-Baitullah.
26:05Allama Iqbal, may Allah have mercy on him, says here,
26:07there is a foreign instrument in the Arabic flute.
26:09The secret of the Haram is the unity of the Ummah.
26:12The western culture is without Haram.
26:16So, surely, Islam gives great importance to our congregational life.
26:20Right.
26:21If you look at the philosophy of all worships,
26:23you see congregation in it.
26:25The fasting of Ramadan, the fasting of Sehri and Iftari,
26:28you see the life of the congregation in all these things.
26:31Now, Dr. Sahab has said,
26:32Al-khalqu aya'a lullah,
26:34this is a pure hadith.
26:35The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, has said,
26:38that the creation of Allah is the nest of Allah.
26:41Yes.
26:42And Allah wants to see
26:44what you do with the people of Allah's nest,
26:47what you treat them.
26:48Yes, of course.
26:49In the Quran, Allah says,
26:51Amma ma yanfa'un naas fa yamqusu fil arz.
26:55Allah gives the benefit to the people.
26:57Allah gives them a reward.
27:00As a result, Allah gives them more respect.
27:03The word, Yanfa'un naas,
27:06is for all the people of mankind.
27:08Khairun naas mayanfa'un naas.
27:10The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, says,
27:12the best among you is he who is best for all mankind.
27:16Right.
27:17Similarly, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, has said,
27:20man la yarham la yurham.
27:22The one who does not show mercy to Allah's creation,
27:24does not show compassion, does not show kindness,
27:26he is deprived of Allah's kindness.
27:28So, there,
27:30kuntum khairun ummatin uqriya lil naas.
27:32He was sent to the world for all mankind.
27:34We have to give everyone love,
27:35we have to give everyone goodness,
27:37we have to give everyone blessings.
27:38It is a very famous hadith.
27:40Most people remember it, Al-Muslimun.
27:41Man salim al-Muslimun.
27:42Man salim al-Muslimun amilli sani wa yadih.
27:44That a Muslim is the one
27:45from whom blessings and goodness reach every Muslim.
27:48But when a person becomes a believer by progressing from a Muslim,
27:52he says, al-muminu man aminahun naas,
27:56ala dama'i wa mawalihim.
27:58When his blessings cross from a Muslim
28:01and reach all people
28:03without any distinction,
28:05without any distinction,
28:06then a person progresses and becomes a believer from a Muslim.
28:10That is, the light of faith,
28:12its coolness, its blessings, its goodness,
28:15it reaches all people,
28:16it reaches all creatures of Allah.
28:18What did Allah say about the Prophet?
28:20wa maa arsalnaaka illa kaafatan lil naas.
28:23We have sent you for all people.
28:25Then Allah said,
28:26wa maa arsalnaaka illa rahmatan lil aalameen.
28:29We have sent you to make you a mercy for the whole world,
28:31for all creatures.
28:33So the example of the Prophet is good.
28:35Allah said in the Quran,
28:37laqad kaan lakum fee rasool Allahi uswatun hasana.
28:40That your lifestyle is a good example.
28:43You spoke with non-Muslims in your conversation.
28:46The agreement that you made with the Jews,
28:52the Jews were not Muslims.
28:54So you gave your blessings of love, mercy, peace,
28:58and security to non-Muslims in your country.
29:04A Christian came from Najran,
29:06it was a very big state,
29:07he made an agreement with Madina Munawwara.
29:10So what was that agreement that you gave,
29:11I saw it in the churches after Europe,
29:14he made an agreement in English.
29:17So you wrote in it,
29:19that the Christians of Najran had such a big church,
29:23Imam Ibn Kayyam writes in Zadul Ma'ad,
29:25that at one time 500,000 people could enter it.
29:32You gave them such freedoms,
29:34you treated them with so much love,
29:36that you have complete freedom there to live your life according to your religion.
29:40So you gave them the blessings of love,
29:43and Shemar Zubaidi, who was their priest,
29:46he heard it and started running.
29:49He traveled for a few days,
29:51he traveled 1400 kilometers to Madina Munawwara.
29:54He stayed in the court of the Prophet for a week.
29:56He did not accept Islam,
29:59even though he was influenced by your morals.
30:02He stayed on his religion,
30:03but he was so influenced by the morals of the Prophet,
30:06that on his way, he presented a donkey and his village, Darveshana,
30:11to the Prophet.
30:13The Prophet accepted it and gave him gifts.
30:16The village,
30:17the Prophet served it every Friday of his life.
30:21Every time he met the Caliph of Rashidun,
30:26he served it.
30:27So it means that the Prophet considered the whole creation of Allah as Allah's family.
30:33And the People of the Book,
30:36I would like to include a Hadith of the Prophet in this regard.
30:39He says,
30:40Sunnu bihim sunnatahil kitab.
30:42The People of the Book are not non-Muslims,
30:44like Hindus, Sikhs, Parsi, Buddhists.
30:47He says, follow the same morals as the People of the Book.
30:52Subhanallah.
30:54This is the approach, this is the expansion of the religion of Islam.
30:57Rai Sahab, the program has come to an end.
31:00And since there is a lot of study on your spiritualism,
31:04if I say this,
31:06I have started asking a philosophical question, with your permission,
31:10that unity means that the soul
31:15is in harmony with the soul of the whole.
31:19Would this be correct?
31:21Of course, this is a very big aspect.
31:23Unity means,
31:26the concept of all the Aryan religions is this,
31:29that oneness and unity are one and the same.
31:32What you are saying.
31:34Obviously, the Semitic religions,
31:37the roots of Islam are Semitic,
31:39so in those, the creator and creation are two different things.
31:43And the creator, oneness in its true sense is one,
31:47and the creator is something else.
31:48But what is the real concept, which the Sufis gave as a message,
31:51of love for humanity, which Shah Sahab was talking about,
31:54that instead of highlighting the differences,
31:58all the religions,
32:00like even,
32:02other than the biblical religions,
32:04like Sikhism or Hinduism,
32:06they also have the message of love and humanity.
32:08Absolutely.
32:09They can agree on that.
32:11I think,
32:13the spiritual aspect you talked about,
32:15can be the biggest source of unity.
32:18The Islam that is still alive in India and Pakistan,
32:23that is a very big thing.
32:24Yes, Irfani Sahab.
32:25The message of the saints.
32:27Exactly.
32:28The message they had,
32:31when someone comes to their shrine, they don't ask about their religion.
32:34The Muslims who came here,
32:37they didn't come out of fear.
32:39Out of love.
32:40Out of love.
32:42Irfani Sahab, what message would you like to give?
32:44For us, it is necessary that we,
32:48at least, to the extent of our thinking,
32:51and to the extent of what is in front of us,
32:53we should realize that,
32:55what is your blessed instruction?
32:58What is your blessed command?
33:00And if we follow that,
33:02we might be able to form a very good society.
33:06A society free of hatred.
33:09I am a follower of the Prophet, peace be upon him.
33:13And I think it is our responsibility to adopt his high morals.
33:20And about him,
33:22the poets have even written,
33:25that peace be upon him, who came as a mercy to the world.
33:28Subhanallah.
33:29As a messenger of friendship, as a truthful and trustworthy one.
33:32Your message was a universal message.
33:35It was a message for the entire human community.
33:38And justice for everyone, justice for everyone, love for everyone,
33:42protection of everyone's honor, protection of their lives,
33:46this was the message.
33:47And you, as a practical example, in the state of Madinah,
33:51in the state of Taiba, you showed us,
33:53that today we need to adopt this.
33:56And I think today, the entire world, I swear to God,
34:00like you, I have seen many worlds, and Rai Sahib will support me on this.
34:05Mr. Arfani also goes around the world.
34:07Humanity is waiting for the pure teachings of Islam.
34:11We are lacking, we do not have that sweetness in our tongues,
34:14about which Allama Iqbal had said,
34:16This is the journey of Mir Karwan.
34:23Thank you very much, Mr. Shah.
34:24Rai Sahib, thank you for coming.
34:27May you be safe. Inshallah, we will continue to seek guidance from you.
34:30Dr. Habib Irfani, thank you very much.
34:32Dr. Syed Ziaullah Shah Bukhari, thank you for coming.
34:35Ladies and gentlemen, we had a very beautiful conversation
34:38on the unity of the Ummah.
34:39And the crux of this conversation is that
34:43our religion of Islam is a religion of love.
34:45There is no hatred in it.
34:47Even our religion of Islam does not hate the sinners,
34:54it hates the sinners.
34:56It does not hate the bad, it hates the bad.
35:00And it does not hate the poor, it hates the poor.
35:04Ladies and gentlemen, this is the message of the religion of Islam.
35:08With this, I would like to ask our guest, Dr. Muhammad Tahir Mustafa
35:11to leave today's program from the unity of the Ummah.