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00:00You see that every now and then we talk about black widows.
00:03Well, another apparently similar case happened here in the neighborhood of Palermo,
00:08on Paraguay Street, at 4600.
00:10There you are seeing the display that there was from the city police,
00:14also from the SAME, where three men would have been victims, precisely, of black widows.
00:20And we go quickly with our cell phone. There is Leo Godoy.
00:23Leo, good morning.
00:25Good morning.
00:26What are you doing?
00:27How are you, Javi? Good morning. Well, we are here in the neighborhood of Palermo.
00:31Yes, a modality that is repeated over and over again.
00:34At least that's what the investigators told us,
00:37that there is talk and a lot is published about black widows,
00:40but cases continue to appear.
00:42In principle, this would be one.
00:45It started at dawn yesterday when four friends,
00:49yes, of Peruvian nationality, decide to go dancing.
00:52They go to a place, start dancing,
00:55meet people and there they meet three women.
00:58Four, I told you, were the friends.
01:00Three decide to come to this apartment,
01:03from here in Paraguay to 4689,
01:07they reach the seventh floor,
01:09they start being with these women,
01:11but from one moment to another they begin to feel that they are sleeping.
01:15Finally, two of them end up sleeping inside the apartment
01:21and a third ends up in the staircase area.
01:25The fourth friend arrives,
01:28who had left at dawn to another place.
01:32When he arrives, he finds that this was happening in the apartment.
01:36Two of his friends were completely asleep in there
01:39and another was on the stairs.
01:41That's where he gives the police a warning,
01:44he quickly gets up.
01:47They arrive at around ten in the morning
01:50when they discover this whole situation
01:53and that's when this operation that you just showed happens.
01:57Let's see.
01:58On the seventh floor, Javi told you,
02:00three people who were in a state of unconsciousness,
02:04who had obviously put something on them,
02:06and a fact that caught the attention of the investigators,
02:09which is that they found an apartment
02:12where six people had gathered,
02:14where they had been drinking something,
02:16very tidy, clean.
02:18That is, these three women, before leaving,
02:21had tidied up the place,
02:23which indicated that they had stolen something.
02:26When they started looking,
02:28$20,000 from that apartment was missing.
02:31That is, it is precisely this modality of the black widow
02:35that we have told so many times, but that continues to happen.
02:39Now, Leo, there are security cameras in the building,
02:41in the block.
02:42How is the situation there?
02:44Look, here in the building, yes,
02:46this camera, for example,
02:48is going to be key to the entry record.
02:52In fact, of what is the investigation,
02:55here next door there is another one.
02:57They are going to be finding out, yes,
03:00well, obviously, who these women were.
03:03Inside, look, we couldn't really know
03:06because the glass, look,
03:08is very opaque.
03:09It is totally, yes,
03:11of course, opaque.
03:12I mean, inside, I couldn't really see
03:14if there were security cameras.
03:16In principle, no.
03:17In principle, I tell you no.
03:19Yes, outside, in the surroundings, there are.
03:22In fact, the police were checking.
03:23We are in Paraguay, 4,600.
03:26Paraguay and La Regueira.
03:28So, you go to, let's say,
03:31it is a neighborhood where there are many cameras
03:33because there is a lot of commerce,
03:34where there is a lot of movement.
03:36Look, let's see.
03:37I'm going to tell you, look,
03:38we're going to walk around a little bit
03:39to show you.
03:40Here you have one, two.
03:42Let's move forward a little bit.
03:43Here is the newspaper stand.
03:45This third.
03:47And here are two more pointing.
03:50One for the sidewalk
03:51where the apartment is
03:52and another for this other street.
03:56That on the left is a bar?
03:57Yes, where also.
03:59It's a bar, it's a bar.
04:01Yes, this is the Bar Orso,
04:03which is also, obviously, a lot of movement.
04:05But hey, they got up early,
04:07they also left early.
04:09I understand that this man,
04:11who was able to wake up,
04:14wake up.
04:15Will they talk to you?
04:16Let's see if they know how to try it.
04:18But the newspapers start early, you know?
04:20How are you? Good morning.
04:21How are you doing?
04:23Well, can I know something about
04:25what happened with the operation this morning?
04:27No, no, no.
04:28I didn't find out much, but hey.
04:30What time did the SAME operation arrive?
04:33SAME, more or less,
04:358 or 9 in the morning.
04:378 or 9 in the morning.
04:38Yes.
04:39And there they found these three people
04:40inside the building?
04:41There they found the three people
04:43who were unconscious.
04:44They were unconscious?
04:45Yes.
04:46Good.
04:47The women were not seen leaving?
04:48Nothing was seen.
04:49Nothing?
04:50No, nothing was seen.
04:51Good, well, thank you.
04:52Yes.
04:53Please.
04:54Good, well, that.
04:55So, you see,
04:56they corroborate that it was early.
04:58But this, the detail is,
05:00one could get up, Javi, they told me,
05:02and he could get to the stairs.
05:04A semi-unconscious person could get to the stairs,
05:07but there he was also again unconscious,
05:09he could not stand up.
05:11And that's where this friend finds them,
05:16makes the complaint,
05:17and also, obviously, talks about this missing person
05:19and this feature.
05:20Yes, one of the investigators, a bit off,
05:22told me that they found the apartment
05:26that they had cleaned,
05:28as if they had taken the time to clean it
05:30and then leave this place.
05:32Surely, they must already be prepared, let's say,
05:37in this modality of cleaning, perhaps, the glasses,
05:40of cleaning some elements,
05:42so as not to leave any traces,
05:44but obviously, from what we did,
05:46the recent survey, Javi,
05:48of the cameras, they will not be able to escape,
05:51apart from three women, obviously,
05:53walking at a certain time,
05:55which is going to be established,
05:56they will probably locate them at any time.
05:59Now, I tell you, there are cameras everywhere,
06:01and that has to be established in some way,
06:04as a tip, at least,
06:06documentary of who these women were,
06:09that although these men will surely be able to recognize them,
06:12well, you see how the process is, right?
06:14If they found them through social networks
06:16or through some application,
06:18then they have to look to see if those profiles
06:21are false or not.
06:24Dr. Cunho sits with his head like this, right?
06:26Yes, through social networks.
06:28Always through social networks, right?
06:30Well, through social networks.
06:31Have you had any cases of this, doctor?
06:33I've had, yes.
06:34Ah, and how?
06:35Through social networks, they start chatting,
06:37either through different social networks,
06:39they start chatting,
06:41they establish a relationship,
06:43of trust,
06:45they invite them to their home,
06:47and at home they offer them a glass of water,
06:49they put something on them and they sleep.
06:51In the case of a client of yours, did it happen to you?
06:53Yes, yes, two.
06:54Two clients.
06:55Two clients, and generally, exactly.
06:58In fact, article 174,
07:00section 2,
07:02talks about the crime of circumvention of the incapable,
07:04which is very similar,
07:05because there the author
07:07takes advantage of the victim's needs.
07:09The needs are generally...
07:11Sexual?
07:12No, either sexual or also affective.
07:16They need to be with someone,
07:17they need to talk,
07:18spend some time,
07:19not just sexual.
07:21And well, the company and...
07:23At the time of litigation, that...
07:25Yes, of course.
07:26They don't realize it.
07:27The thing is that the article of the circumvention of the incapable
07:29talks about being declared or not incapable,
07:31so they have a different modality.
07:34Here it is the crime of robbery,
07:36clearly it is the crime of robbery.
07:37No doubt.
07:38But through social networks they can locate them,
07:41and of course through the cameras,
07:42because not only the department needs cameras,
07:44but the streets.
07:45Today we are permanently filmed.
07:47But sorry, when we say through social networks,
07:49how would it be?
07:50Locate them, you are talking about the investigators.
07:52The victim herself is the one who,
07:55when she is reported, says,
07:56look, I was chatting with this woman.
07:59Maybe it's a fake profile.
08:02Exactly, that's why I asked you.
08:04But through the IP,
08:06the use of the computer,
08:07you can get to the location,
08:09you can make a search.
08:11There are ways to individualize it.
08:13Of course.
08:14That is possible.
08:15But I say, let's see,
08:16you get there,
08:17and once you get there,
08:18what is the penalty?
08:19Because I say,
08:20beyond the robbery,
08:21and the article I mentioned, doctor,
08:23there is the issue linked to health.
08:26Because they put something
08:28that you don't know if it can leave sequels,
08:31if you can't kill him,
08:32because it has happened,
08:33in case it happened to him again.
08:35You can conjugate two crimes.
08:37The crime of robbery,
08:38which has two to six years in prison,
08:40and you can conjugate the crime of injuries.
08:42They can be injuries from Article 92,
08:4493 to 94,
08:45depending on their severity.
08:46Yes.
08:48And in most of these cases,
08:50these black widows,
08:52have had other previous victims.
08:54Yes.
08:55So you can make a pile of penalties
08:58that makes it impossible
09:00to grant a prison release,
09:03and therefore,
09:04a procedure with a preventive prison.
09:06Because sometimes they act,
09:07let's suppose it's one or two women.
09:09There are men too,
09:10let's talk about these cases.
09:11One or two women,
09:12but they have in connivence
09:15a man who comes later
09:17to help them in the robbery,
09:19to take things,
09:20or to take them to them.
09:21Today, the analysis of the phones
09:23is everything in an investigation.
09:25When 20 years ago it was not
09:27admitted as proof in WhatsApp,
09:30today it is absolutely,
09:31everything is here.
09:32Of course.
09:33So surely the victim,
09:35if he hands over his phone
09:36and accepts to say
09:41everything that has happened,
09:43can be found.
09:44Exactly.
09:45Recently, we know the case
09:47of a woman,
09:48how old was she?
09:49More than 70 years.
09:50Gloria.
09:51Gloria Aurora.
09:53Exactly.
09:54In the forest area.
09:56She acted in the same way,
09:58but actually what she did,
10:00not only with men,
10:02but also with women
10:04of more or less the same age,
10:06where she made friends,
10:08she placed something,
10:09this is the moment in a bar,
10:11where she arrives with her victim,
10:15a woman,
10:19who did not seduce her
10:20for the sexual matter,
10:21for the matter of friendship.
10:23Obviously.
10:24So, what did she do in this case?
10:26They were sitting outside,
10:27she was inside,
10:29she asked for two coffees
10:30to take them to the table,
10:32and while they brought her the coffee,
10:35she prepared the dose.
10:37Let's see if we get the graph,
10:38I'll tell you in a second.
10:39Exactly.
10:40And let's see the sequence.
10:41There it is, look.
10:42There she brings the coffee,
10:44and there she places,
10:45with her right hand,
10:46in the other coffee,
10:47the substance,
10:49to put the other person to sleep.
10:52There she puts a little more
10:53of the crushed pill she had,
10:56and then she will stir it.
10:58And she takes the two coffees,
11:00see?
11:01She stays there for a while,
11:02and simulates.
11:04Nobody sees her,
11:05because those who tend
11:06were behind her back.
11:09We remember this case
11:10that shocked the city of Buenos Aires
11:12a few weeks ago,
11:13because of this fact,
11:14and also because of this woman,
11:15who was arrested,
11:16and goes to trial.
11:17She was arrested several times
11:18for the fact of simulating.
11:20Yes.
11:21And there she is with two coffees.
11:22The crime of incapacity circumvention,
11:24which is very similar,
11:25but...
11:26Here it was used to steal.
11:28They attack the elderly.
11:29Sure.
11:30And the rule 174.16.2
11:32says that one should abuse
11:34of inexperience,
11:35passions,
11:36or needs.
11:38So,
11:39there are very lonely people.
11:41And this woman,
11:42more than 70 years old,
11:43what is the biggest penalty
11:44that can be applied to her?
11:45Domestic violence.
11:46Domestic violence.
11:47Domestic violence.
11:48No more than that.
11:49Domestic violence,
11:50and you will know
11:51how many victims she has,
11:52because a 70-year-old woman
11:53who commits a crime,
11:54because she did not look
11:55for a new source of work.
11:56Exactly.
11:57She comes...
11:58We have counted,
11:59at least in the report,
12:00three, at least.
12:01Three facts.
12:02She came with some others before,
12:04too,
12:05and then they started to appear
12:06more than us.
12:07Yes, yes.
12:08Here with Facundo Pastor,
12:09we have reflected it
12:10in some opportunities.
12:11Which one?
12:12Yes.
12:13I ask,
12:14which is the most frequent
12:15super-ending mode?
12:16Achieving that the man,
12:17in this case,
12:18takes her to his own house
12:19and he is...
12:20First,
12:21to achieve trust.
12:22Yes.
12:23That is,
12:24deception or deception,
12:25what Article 172 says
12:26about fraud.
12:27First,
12:28to achieve trust.
12:29Through trust,
12:30to maintain a permanent
12:31link with social networks,
12:32and to make a date.
12:33Generally,
12:34the appointment
12:35is in the victim's house
12:36so that,
12:37once asleep...
12:38There they are taken away.
12:39Exactly,
12:40there they are taken away
12:41because they wake up
12:42three or four days later.
12:43Of course.
12:44Four days?
12:45Three or four days later.
12:46They are given burundanga,
12:47they sleep three
12:48or four days later,
12:49when they wake up,
12:50it is absolutely...
12:51Well,
12:52in one of the cases
12:53that we did
12:54and we counted,
12:55with the daughter
12:56of one of the ladies
12:57who lived in Flores,
12:58she told us,
12:59she was almost
13:00one day asleep,
13:01asleep,
13:02and then another day
13:03she was in the hospital.
13:04They found her
13:05in the hospital.
13:06They didn't know
13:07where she was
13:08and they ended up
13:09finding her
13:10in the hospital in Piñero.
13:11A neighbor had rescued her.
13:12They live in Mexico.
13:13Now they took
13:14the lady to Mexico
13:15to live with them.
13:16And I agree with you
13:17that it is an operation
13:18that requires
13:19the collaboration
13:20of at least
13:21two or three people
13:22plus the move
13:23because they don't
13:24take the beds.
13:25Of course.
13:26A truck goes
13:27directly.
13:28Well,
13:29here we have
13:30another image.
13:31A young woman,
13:32she was recognized
13:33by the tattoo.
13:34There she is,
13:35the victim, right?
13:36Yes.
13:37Of course.
13:38Then she has
13:39control of the whole situation
13:40because once she is asleep,
13:41the victim is neutralized.
13:42She is defenseless.
13:43No,
13:44there is no way.
13:45There is no way to react.
13:46I imagine
13:47that she doesn't
13:48have to give you
13:49her body to get up.
13:50She can take out
13:51a kidney.
13:52There are the two
13:53women who withdraw
13:54with the boot
13:55in their hand.
13:56Yes.
13:57And the man
13:58stayed inside
13:59his apartment.
14:00It is the great
14:01danger of bringing
14:02strange people
14:03to the house.
14:04It is the usual.
14:05Isn't it?
14:06Yes.
14:07Today.
14:08But there is
14:09a limit between
14:10what is strange
14:11and what is not strange.
14:12That is the problem.
14:13Because if you are
14:14in a virtual relationship
14:15with a person,
14:16especially we are
14:17talking in this case
14:18of older people,
14:19yes?
14:20But you can
14:21go to the hotel,
14:22you don't go to your house.
14:23But you think,
14:24Javi,
14:25that it is a situation
14:26of a lot of trust.
14:27Yes, yes.
14:28Maybe they have been
14:29chatting for months.
14:30It is a situation
14:31of a lot of trust.
14:32You are naked,
14:33without clothes.
14:34In this case...
14:35We are talking about
14:36a scam for the abuse
14:37of trust.
14:38Of course.
14:39Because,
14:40and let me be clear
14:41if this is not the case,
14:42in these cases,
14:43maybe they do
14:44this same operation
14:45with many people
14:46and they can
14:47carry it for a long time.
14:48So,
14:49there is a degree
14:50of trust established
14:51that maybe
14:52there is not even
14:53with people who
14:54know each other personally.
14:55Exactly.
14:56Exactly.
14:57Let's see,
14:58I go back to Leo,
14:59is there anyone else
15:00who is there?
15:01The manager of the building?
15:02No.
15:03No, no, no.
15:04The manager
15:05didn't go out.
15:06What they told me
15:07is that,
15:08in this case,
15:09the abduction,
15:10in the beginning,
15:11started in a boliche.
15:12We don't know
15:13if maybe
15:14there was
15:15a previous situation
15:16where they were
15:17cited to that boliche.
15:18There they met.
15:19Because here
15:20we are talking
15:21about three people.
15:22There was a fourth
15:23who went
15:24to another place.
15:25But the three women
15:26came with three men.
15:27They were the ones
15:28who found here.
15:29They were in a boliche,
15:30they came,
15:31they set up
15:32this meeting,
15:33they came here
15:34and here is where
15:35in the beginning
15:36of that party
15:37they give them
15:38something to drink
15:39and there these men
15:40end up sleeping
15:41and these women
15:42end up accommodating
15:43the apartment
15:44and taking
15:45the 20,000 dollars
15:46that, well,
15:47now we will have
15:48to see
15:49if they are located.
15:50The cameras
15:51are going to be
15:52fundamental.
15:53That's why
15:54I say,
15:55I was referring
15:56to the boliche
15:57as another place
15:58of meetings
15:59and also where
16:00obviously all
16:01that tour
16:02will be evaluated
16:03by the police
16:04to also know
16:05if there is
16:06any visual
16:07record that
16:08obviously allows
16:09them to locate
16:10some of these women.
16:11Well,
16:12you have to take
16:13into account
16:14and be careful
16:15because this usually
16:16happens,
16:17before it happened
16:18many years ago,
16:19it was not
16:20the virtuality
16:21that existed.
16:22Also in the
16:23meetings,
16:24in the boliches,
16:25which were not
16:26through networks,
16:27I say,
16:28because they did not
16:29exist.
16:30There was no telephone,
16:31there were no networks.
16:32This
16:33ardid
16:34is from
16:35Pijarata,
16:36how many years?
16:37Yes, but
16:38today it is
16:39culturally accepted
16:40because you even
16:41have
16:42dating applications.
16:43Yes, yes.
16:44There are dating
16:45applications.
16:46Yes, but I say,
16:47the black widow
16:48existed
16:49forever.
16:50All life.
16:51Right?
16:52It even comes from
16:53the lunfardo.
16:54Well, Leo,
16:55we are attentive
16:56to your calls,
16:57maybe if
16:58some of the victims ...
16:59Were they admitted
17:00to the three?
17:01Were they transferred?
17:02Do you have any data
17:03about that?
17:04They were admitted
17:05to the three,
17:06they were taken,
17:07I understand,
17:08to Fernández
17:09with signs of
17:10intoxication.
17:11Yes, that
17:12in principle
17:13is at least
17:14the first
17:15diagnosis,
17:16that is,
17:17signs of
17:18intoxication,
17:19probably
17:20with clones
17:21they are paid,
17:22generally,
17:23that is,
17:24that medication
17:25that takes you
17:26to sleep
17:27instantly,
17:28it happens that
17:29in high doses
17:30it is very dangerous.
17:31It is the same,
17:32it is the same,
17:33and one stayed
17:34on the ladder,
17:35it is seen that
17:36maybe he wanted
17:37to seek help
17:38and did not get
17:39to have enough
17:40strength
17:41to be able
17:42to look for it.