👉 Una mujer fue víctima de un robo en su hogar después aparentemente fuera drogada en la calle por dos mujeres que le vinieron a hablar pidiéndole ayuda. Inmediatamente la mujer dijo desorientarse y despertar horas después dentro de su casa. Los ladrones se llevaron ahorros y pertenencias personales.
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00:00I understand the police station is there at the moment.
00:02Yes, she is still assisting the police station, exactly.
00:07Good.
00:08Because we are sending, she was asked to go and send the videos that we are circulating on the networks
00:14to also be able to advance what would be the cause, more than anything.
00:19Clear. What did they steal from your mother? I don't know, do you live with her?
00:23I'm with Esby.
00:25So they also stole from you. What did they steal from you?
00:28Yes, we had a small savings that they just grabbed in the place where...
00:37It seems to me that what we believe, here in my family, is what my mother should have been asked
00:42when she was in that state, where she was.
00:46So only that small savings, everything that is material and that, was left in my house.
00:53Clear.
00:55Luckily, they didn't hurt her or anything, that's the important thing.
00:57Yes, well, in reality they end up hurting her with the use of this drug that could have done a lot, a lot of damage.
01:04Yes.
01:05Did it cause her anything more than this feeling of loneliness?
01:09Look, the only thing she remembers is that after having grabbed this paper,
01:15she began to feel tingling in the leg, headache.
01:20Those were the first symptoms and from there she didn't feel anything else, she doesn't remember anything, well, nothing at all, of course.
01:27Lourdes, do you have any idea, when they do the reconstruction, how far your mother walked with these people?
01:33Look, I'll tell you, from my house to the...
01:36My mother's idea was to take the bus, it would be four blocks from my house to the bus stop.
01:43Yes.
01:43And in the middle of that road there is a square called Las Heras.
01:49What we want to know, and that's why we also want to be able to move forward with this complaint,
01:55is when they must have found my mother.
01:59What we don't know yet is if it was at the bus stop or if it was in the middle of the road, in that square.
02:06Clear.
02:06So it was probably in those four blocks, it wasn't much.
02:11Now, look, right?
02:12My mother didn't even take the bus because, looking at the record, it was there.
02:17Did you meet your mother at home?
02:21How was that meeting after this situation?
02:24What does it tell you?
02:26Yes, I was just, as you are hearing me, I am working,
02:31and she calls me after two hours, she wakes up,
02:39she was sitting in the kitchen, and she wakes up like this,
02:44and there she realizes that, nothing, she threw all her clothes and immediately calls me.
02:49And I was in the capital, because I work outside my house, very far away.
02:55Yes.
02:55So nothing, yes, it was very desperate.
02:58Sure, and she spoke to you and was coherent when she told you what ...
03:03No, she was very asleep.
03:04Very asleep.
03:05She was very asleep, it was hard for her to speak,
03:07like when someone wakes up from an anesthesia, something like that.
03:12Similar to the boys we registered at the door when the Mexicans arrived.
03:18I don't know if you got to see that note at some point.
03:21I am hearing the news of the Mexicans right now, yes, yes, yes.
03:26Of course.
03:26It's impressive, because the truth is that the cases of the Gundanga,
03:31they all come from those places, more for the cases in Latin America.
03:36Yes, the Mexicans are the victims in this case,
03:38but yes, from Mexico they have warned us that this is quite common there.
03:44We at some point had this data, but they had changed their substance,
03:49they had started to use benzodiazepines.
03:52Now the Gundanga appears directly again in two cases in a week of high impact.
03:59And also, Lourdes, I ask you, did you find out if there are other victims in the neighborhood?
04:04There were cases, there were cases in which they were very afraid to report.
04:12Of course.
04:12Lourdes, in your house or in the building, do they have cameras?
04:18No, just us, after what happened, we want, we are going to start putting cameras,
04:24we also made changes to locks, out of fear, because ...
04:30Sorry, sorry, sorry, Lourdes, it's interesting, Hugo.
04:34But do you know what many neighbors in the province of Buenos Aires are realizing?
04:39That they have the cameras, they have the siren you heard there, they have the bars,
04:43and they come with a cricket, they open the bars just like that,
04:46they come in and steal you, I mean, with an alarm, with a video, with whatever,
04:51even with a garita, notice that this garita, which now, well,
04:54I think luckily it stopped ringing, but the garita is there.
04:59I don't take any responsibility, of course, to the person who is there,
05:04in the garita, but I say, we don't know what to do anymore.
05:07That's the reality, right?
05:09If you pay attention to the video, my mom comes out hugged like three friends.
05:16Of course, let's see it again.
05:18It's very confusing.
05:19Let's see it again, because of course, the person in the garita watches this and says,
05:23no, I don't see anything strange, they are three big friends,
05:27they went to have tea, they went to play cards, he came to visit them,
05:30there you have it, 3.40 p.m. and they go out with her, there they go.
05:36Sorry, these three go out alone.
05:38They go out alone, your mom stays inside.
05:42At first my mom goes out alone and then she comes back with the three women
05:47and they enter my house.
05:49And then, so as not to raise suspicions that they go out alone,
05:53they go out with my mom.
05:55Ah, they go out, that is, they take her out again.
05:58Exactly.
05:59It's impressive.
06:00Exactly.
06:01That is, first they take her, let me reconstruct, Lourdes,
06:04with what you are telling us.
06:06First they find her somewhere, on the way to take the bus.
06:10Exactly.
06:11They deceive her under the effects of the substance.
06:14They put her in the house.
06:15Exactly.
06:16They steal from her and to hide it, they go out with her.
06:20They go out together, exactly.
06:21And how does your mom come back alone to her home?
06:24Alone.
06:26To my house.
06:27She opens the door as if nothing.
06:29And that's when she sits down and falls asleep.
06:32That's when she reacts.
06:34Yes.
06:35Meanwhile, we are seeing a man on camera.
06:38A man and a woman.
06:39Yes.
06:40We are suspecting that if my mom had left the door open,
06:45they would have entered too.
06:48That is, they would be part of the gang.
06:50That man and that woman plus ...
06:53Plus so many women.
06:55Because we are already talking about two in the afternoon.
06:57There it is, again.
06:59A woman with a red bag, another with long hair,
07:04a t-shirt, another in jeans.
07:06There are the three.
07:08Which is your mom of these three that go?
07:10The one on the right, I understand.
07:11The one in the middle.
07:12The one in the middle.
07:13The one in the gray shirt.
07:14No, if in the image we are seeing, the one on the right.
07:18Because then there will be other images.
07:20A vehicle is also parked.
07:22Do you think he is also part of the organization?
07:24No, because he is a neighbor.
07:26He is a neighbor.
07:27Yes, yes, yes.
07:28Perfect.
07:29This is striking.
07:30It is striking because they manage to disconnect ...
07:32It is a horror movie.
07:34We say that because it is not to believe.
07:36Imagine ...
07:37Poor my mom.
07:39She didn't understand anything.
07:41When we got these videos, we could believe it.
07:44That is, when she saw all these videos,
07:47she didn't remember walking this way with these people.
07:52It's a little bit like going to school,
07:57because you have to walk fast.
07:59My mom ...
08:00The fact that after an hour,
08:02they returned so relaxed,
08:04so ...
08:05They grabbed these two women.
08:07Yes.
08:08There you realize that they must have done something to her on the street.
08:12Of course.
08:13It was not in the court.
08:15Let's see, Lourdes, I know you're working.
08:17Give me a minute.
08:18I want to go back with Diego de Nicolás to the cell phone.
08:22I also want to talk to your mother.
08:24We want to talk to her again.
08:26How are you?
08:27What could you tell the police?
08:29Diego, how are you?
08:30Well, let's go back to the place.
08:32We are seeing the images.
08:33It's impressive.
08:34A woman who walks and is accompanied,
08:36but she doesn't remember anything at all.
08:40Of course.
08:41Let's see.
08:42Pablo, yes.
08:43Now a little calmer.
08:44We did it.
08:45Did the man understand that he didn't understand?
08:47There it is.
08:48Very good.
08:49To be able to work a little calmer.
08:51Some neighbors came to see the siren.
08:53They went out to see what was going on.
08:55But it's all clear.
08:56We are working.
08:57Because they would think, Diego,
08:59that they are stealing again.
09:01It's logical.
09:02The siren sounds,
09:03the neighbors see it,
09:04and they see you with the microphone
09:06and think it's you.
09:07I don't know.
09:09Yes, but we have been trying to explain the situation
09:11since early morning.
09:12But now it's all clear.
09:14Nothing happens.
09:15And we are going to tell you now,
09:17from the place,
09:18what the area is like.
09:19Very good.
09:21San Martín area,
09:22where, look,
09:23at this time of the afternoon,
09:24you look at the street,
09:25you see the sidewalk,
09:26and practically nothing happens.
09:28A boy who goes there,
09:29a little further away,
09:30there is a square,
09:31approximately,
09:32where there are some boys playing.
09:34But imagine,
09:35if there is someone
09:36who wants to deceive someone
09:37and comes walking around here
09:39and tries to use this sardine
09:41in a good way
09:42to convince someone
09:44and so on.
09:45Well, neither
09:46the victim has too much escape.
09:48No.
09:49In his good faith,
09:50they trick him,
09:51they try to establish a communication
09:53and suddenly a rare substance appears
09:55that he does not know what it is.
09:57And well,
09:58and he gets this person
09:59absolutely
10:00out of his defense possibilities.
10:02Sure.
10:03So well,
10:04beyond the fact that
10:05this area of San Martín
10:06is an area
10:07that we know
10:08very urban,
10:09where there may be a lot of movement.
10:11No.
10:12There are these places
10:13that are quieter
10:14and quiet places,
10:15as we always say,
10:16are beautiful.
10:17But sometimes
10:19this unwanted issue
10:20that in the face of the impossibility
10:22of having defense,
10:23sometimes the victims
10:24are too vulnerable.
10:25Sure.
10:26Now, Diego,
10:27we saw the woman
10:28entering with two,
10:29with two others
10:31who pretended to be friends.
10:33But then when they leave,
10:34the striking thing
10:35is that after stealing,
10:36they also take her out of the house
10:38to pretend.
10:39And suddenly
10:40another woman appears
10:41and a man also appears.
10:44Do you know anything
10:45about these two people?
10:46Sure, because
10:47many times
10:48no,
10:49it is that the criminals
10:50many times
10:51work that way.
10:52There can be
10:53two, three,
10:54up to four people,
10:55sometimes more,
10:56who try to put together
10:57these groups
10:58with a logistic
10:59sometimes surprising,
11:00because
11:01people,
11:02imagine Pablo,
11:03can come to commit
11:04this act
11:05of entering the house
11:06of the woman,
11:07stealing everything.
11:08And then what do they do?
11:09If the person,
11:10the perpetrators,
11:11come to the house
11:12of the woman
11:13and the person
11:14denounces them
11:15if there is a neighbor.
11:16So there is always
11:17some logistics
11:18so that they can
11:19escape from the neighborhood
11:20and perhaps in this neighborhood
11:21they will never see them again.
11:22And all that group
11:23today is operating
11:24in another distant place.
11:25Now, you know, Diego,
11:26this looks like
11:27it was something
11:28on the fly.
11:29Because
11:30you see
11:31what the daughter tells us,
11:32that the mother
11:33had some
11:34small savings there,
11:35nothing
11:36of greater importance,
11:37nor had they
11:38done
11:39any operation
11:40or anything
11:41of real estate.
11:42And it is a quiet area.
11:43Maybe this
11:44was clearly
11:45on the fly.
11:46Of course.
11:47Let's see.
11:48But the fact
11:49that it is on the fly
11:50does not mean
11:51that they have used
11:52some minutes
11:53of intelligence.
11:54Sometimes to be
11:55intelligent
11:56it is not necessary
11:57to be an intelligence
11:58of a week.
11:59Maybe with half an hour
12:00to see
12:01if in that house,
12:02if in that block
12:03there was movement
12:04and see
12:05where the person
12:06came from,
12:07perhaps
12:08it would be
12:09enough
12:10for that to
12:11happen.
12:12Now, Diego,
12:13of course,
12:14La Garita,
12:15how far
12:16is it from
12:17Emilia's house?
12:18No,
12:19La Garita,
12:20La Garita is very
12:21close,
12:22it is half a block
12:23away,
12:24nothing more.
12:25Look,
12:26we are going to
12:27show you.
12:28La Garita does not
12:29save you
12:30from this.
12:31Of course,
12:32La Garita does not
12:33save you,
12:34Diego.
12:35What happens
12:36is that many times
12:37La Garita has
12:38a problem
12:39with this.
12:40Who can imagine
12:41that two adult
12:42women are
12:43stealing from
12:44each other?
12:45Look,
12:46we are trying
12:47to contact
12:48a toxicologist
12:49because we are
12:50seeing,
12:51look,
12:52this,
12:53effects of
12:54escopalamine
12:55or burundanga
12:56as it is
12:57known
12:58vulgarly,
12:59dizziness,
13:00dilation of
13:01pupils,
13:02spasms.
13:03Now,
13:04what happens
13:05if there is
13:06an overdose?
13:07The body
13:08enters
13:09more,
13:10even more,
13:11a number of
13:12substances
13:13more than
13:14tolerable.
13:15Delirium,
13:16disorientation,
13:17coma and
13:18death.
13:19That is to say,
13:20we are with
13:21a group of
13:22people
13:23who can
13:24lead you to
13:25death,
13:26clearly,
13:27to steal from
13:28your house,
13:29you go disoriented,
13:30you do not
13:31understand
13:32absolutely
13:33anything.
13:34This woman,
13:35for a long time,
13:36and even later,
13:37when she was
13:38the daughter,
13:39says,
13:40Lourdes,
13:41Lourdes told you
13:42that no, no,
13:43or you understood
13:44that no,
13:45she was not
13:46heard,
13:47she was not lucid.
13:48Tell me that moment
13:49when you
13:50immediately
13:51communicated with
13:52her,
13:53Lourdes.
13:54Yes,
13:55my mother,
13:56directly,
13:57when she
13:58called me,
13:59she told me,
14:00I just woke up
14:01and they took
14:02our clothes,
14:03they took
14:04the money
14:05to go to the
14:06hospital,
14:07because
14:08they were
14:09there,
14:10of course,
14:11very,
14:12very low-key,
14:13but as
14:14just
14:15awakened.
14:16Of course,
14:17of course,
14:18did
14:19they take
14:20your mother
14:21to the
14:22doctor,
14:23did you
14:24take her
14:25from
14:26Lourdes?
14:27Yes,
14:28yes,
14:29the doctor
14:30came to
14:31do the
14:32night
14:33thing
14:34When she opened the book, I don't know what book they were showing her.
14:40She was given a piece of paper.
14:42One of the women told her that she didn't know how to read,
14:46and that she had to indicate the name of an addiction or something like that.
14:50Because that's what my mom remembers.
14:52And when my mom grabbed that paper to see, I think it was on Dorrego Street,
14:57that's when she started to feel those symptoms of the leg,
15:01headache, and she doesn't remember anything else.
15:04Of course.
15:05That's striking.
15:07It's more than striking.
15:08Either by touching the paper, or a dust that was there,
15:11and that probably sucked it out, or practically invisible.
15:15I don't know how a dust there should have seen my mom.
15:21Now, the important thing...
15:23I also want to emphasize that I think this was not by chance.
15:28Oh, no?
15:29I think this was studied for me.
15:31Let's see.
15:32Explain it to us.
15:33For me, a couple of days ago, they must have seen my mom,
15:37who has several activities around the neighborhood.
15:41She has many activities for being retired.
15:44She does a lot of activities every day,
15:46and it's a time when I'm on a work schedule,
15:49and for me there must have been a moment when they took advantage of the fact that the plane came in and out.
15:54Of course, your mom goes to a retirement club,
15:56because those places can also be occupied by these people who pretend to be retirees.
16:01Yes, for sure.
16:02And that's where the intelligence comes in.
16:04And that's when cases of colleagues who in a certain period of time
16:09did not dare to file a complaint came out.
16:12Ah, wait, wait, wait.
16:14You're telling me that in the retirement club where your mom goes, there are other...
16:18Not in the club, but in general.
16:20In the area?
16:21In general, in the area.
16:22In the area, retirees begin to appear,
16:24who show that this is a gang that has been attacking for some time.
16:29So your mom's case is the first.
16:31Yes, I don't know if it's the same gang, but well,
16:33they fell asleep or came in directly and hurt her.
16:38Yes, many cases. They didn't dare to file a complaint.
16:41I was going to ask you that, Lourdes.
16:43Did you file a complaint?
16:45Yes, yes, yes, yes.
16:46Okay.
16:47Obviously.
16:48I just went to the police station to present the videos and everything and keep moving forward.
16:53I want to go back to the videos to see if we can detect the faces of these people
16:57who evidently have Emilia as their last victim,
17:01but who have been doing this, evidently, in the San Martín area for some time.
17:07There we heard, Lourdes said that when her mother's case appears,
17:12other people begin to emerge who claim that the same thing happened to them.
17:17So these retirees are evidently the predilected victims of these organizations,
17:24who, as Hugo said, grab them with the weakest.
17:26Always.
17:27But they knock you out.
17:28They knock you out without being able to react.
17:30And taking you, even taking you out of your house later,
17:34to be able to escape with peace of mind.
17:36There we go back to the images.
17:39There we have this woman, under suspicion.
17:41Also the red circle is suspicious.
17:43You will see here how she withdraws, calling by phone.
17:47You will also see a man.
17:49This is later or ...
17:51Now we are going to check exactly the time if it is later or during the attack.
17:5713 and 42.
17:5813 and 42.
17:59There the man also appears.
18:03Isn't that a neighbor?
18:04The man who appears there, Lourdes, is not a neighbor.
18:07No, he is not a neighbor.
18:08In fact, I thought it was the security of the fence,
18:11and the guys who know him, I mean, the neighbors who know him,
18:15they told me, no, he is not.
18:18Because it happened minutes when my mother came in with these two women.
18:23And besides, it is strange to see their aspect of curiosity,
18:27of being able to look at my house.
18:30I think that if my mother had her eyes open,
18:34I think these two people were going to come in too.
18:36Of course, of course.
18:37And there we see the women going, right?
18:39At first there were two women with your mother.
18:42Then the three of them also withdrew.
18:46They enter at 14.
18:47Notice that the image we had is the previous moment
18:50where a man and a woman are seen,
18:53possibly doing prior intelligence on the place.
18:56This is the frame.
18:58There we also see the lady.
19:00Notice, this is the victim.
19:03This is the victim.
19:06And there we see her return, finally, to her house.
19:1112.39.
19:12We would have to make a timeline with all this travel.
19:15I remember the timeline.
19:16My mother leaves at 12.39.
19:21At 12.39 she leaves and then she goes on with the case.
19:24And there you see her, how she walks fast,
19:27she walks to the bus stop.
19:29Of course.
19:30And she returns, after an hour with these two women,
19:33on her way home.
19:35At 13.40.
19:3713.40.