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00:22Let's welcome in Mark Willard, Dan Dibley.
00:25They're down in Santa Clara getting ready for the big Niners-Rams clash.
00:29What's up, gents?
00:31Boys, how we doing?
00:33This is the final game tonight. You guys are there.
00:36Aren't they all?
00:37They all are now.
00:39They all are now.
00:40I mean, the Niner players were sort of saying that after the game against the Bears.
00:45But that one felt a little bit more like, I don't know, it felt like a pre-party.
00:50I'm with you guys, especially with the primetime nature Thursday night.
00:54This is the one that feels like the Niners will help us decide
00:58if we've still potentially got action the rest of this year or not.
01:01It's tough to envision a loss tonight and them getting to the playoffs.
01:06Let's just put it that way.
01:08What did you think of the Warrior game last night?
01:11The refs dibs the refs!
01:13Right. The refs dibs the refs.
01:16Let's start there, but let's make sure that we highlight the actual issues.
01:22Let's start with the refs dibs the refs.
01:25First of all, loose ball, and Gary dives for it, and FVV kind of half-falls on him.
01:33Didn't think it was a foul.
01:34Why Gary decided to shovel the ball to no one, that has nothing to do with the refs.
01:39And then the ball gets shoveled, and you have multiple players asking for timeout,
01:45and timeout's not granted, which a timeout, as you know, Stiney, it's a request.
01:50It's a timeout request.
01:53And you have two officials looking at the player, and for some reason neither one of them wanted to grant it,
01:58and then the official from the baseline runs in and calls a foul.
02:02My big issue was the lack of collaboration.
02:05It should have been a collaboration sensation, where the three refs huddle up,
02:10and the one ref says, I got a foul, and the other two refs go, geez, gee whiz,
02:15they might have wanted to call timeout, like the three guys making the signal right in our face.
02:20They could have easily huddled and rectified it and given Houston a timeout at that point,
02:25but if you want to take all of that away, and you look at just the action of Kaminga on,
02:32I guess it was Jalen Green on the floor, there was no tie-up.
02:36Kaminga fouled him.
02:37So whether or not you ever call that or not is a separate issue to me,
02:41and yes, you want to let the players resolve it and all the rest of it.
02:45For me, the biggest issue that I have is that the referees didn't come together
02:50and try to make that in the best possible way and find the best possible resolution,
02:56which would have been timeout Houston.
02:58Now go ahead and score Houston with four seconds left.
03:01Yeah, the only reason I'm thinking that they didn't grant a timeout is because
03:05maybe they didn't think anybody had possession when certain guys were signaling for it.
03:11That's the only thing I could think of.
03:13Well, I was listening to you guys earlier when you were sort of like, it almost, and I get it,
03:18it's like a baked-in, almost gotcha hypocrisy thing on Steve Kerr when you're like,
03:23you're complaining that it wasn't a foul, and then when you're asked why didn't you review it,
03:28you say because I wouldn't have won the review.
03:31But I liken that call, and just to spotlight that thing because Steve made such a big deal out of it,
03:37it'd be no different to me than going back 10 years ago in baseball
03:41and in the old double play where you were just in the neighborhood of second base.
03:46If you want to spotlight that and say you weren't on second base, you're allowed to do that.
03:52And the slow-mo replay would suggest that you're right, but we all damn well know you don't do that.
03:58And as an umpire back then, you didn't do that, and you don't do this.
04:02But like I'm with dibs that there are 10 things that we could point to that have nothing to do with the refs.
04:09I was personally stuck on why Steph Curry shot that shot when he shot it.
04:14I don't like, I get the night-night moment, you could see in his response after the game,
04:20you could see that in his eyes, to him that's a layup.
04:24And that's the way crazy talented people think.
04:28He's like, I've got that shot, I make that shot in my sleep,
04:31and I'm doing the night-night and we're on our way to Vegas.
04:34I get it, but the bottom line is, as a team, you've got to take advantage of the mistakes the other team makes.
04:40And Houston wouldn't foul you, and as long as they weren't fouling you, just stand there.
04:46And then when the shot clock is about to go, huck the ball at the rim.
04:50That's what I would have done.
04:52I'm right with you, and that one is why that's number one on my list.
04:55And when I sent you that text, I know you weren't happy they lost,
04:58but you're happy they're not going to Vegas, then I butt-dodged you.
05:01But did you hear Curry's comments after?
05:04Curry's comments were like, basically, I'm paraphrasing,
05:07and this is what concerns me moving forward, and I know he's getting older,
05:11but when he talks about the Rockets' defense being that just hellacious defense,
05:17you don't know if you're going to get a better look.
05:20To me, that's almost giving an award to the Rockets' defense for two things.
05:25One, being menacing, and the fact that the great Steph Curry is thinking about,
05:30I might not get a better look, so I got to take a shot when I shouldn't shoot it.
05:36And if you play that right like a great violin, while that scrums on the ground,
05:41the buzzer goes off, nothing to see here.
05:44That's why it hurts.
05:45The problem with that is that no look with three seconds left on the clock
05:50would have been better than missing the look that you got.
05:54So it's one of those where it's like you can take it, but you better make it,
05:57and he didn't.
05:59So the more concerning comments for me from Steph after where he basically said,
06:04look, if we keep having these kinds of problems in the final two and three minutes
06:08of basketball games, we're going to be a very mediocre team.
06:11It is still early in the season, but to me this is clearly in their heads.
06:15You can see when the clock hits two minutes, hell, Bob and Kalenna,
06:20they're talking about it where they're like, okay, up by six with two minutes,
06:24and immediately it's like, let's see if they blow it, Bob, and poof.
06:28There they do.
06:29So it's already in their heads, and then it got confirmed again last night,
06:34and that's obviously not good.
06:37Yeah, I mean, they lack offensive players who can score in the last two minutes
06:47of a game other than Steph, and this is where his size doesn't help him.
06:56You can't stick him down in the low post like you could a bigger player.
07:00He's got to do his work against other guards and try to manufacture a shot,
07:06and the reality is after Steph they don't know where they're going to go.
07:10They want it to be Kaminga, and they tried for it to be Kaminga
07:13on the last possession, and then Draymond turns it over.
07:16That was quietly an awful pass to Kaminga.
07:22Awful.
07:23Awful.
07:24And my thing about it is we all rip Shanahan for red zone inefficiency,
07:30but what are the Warriors running?
07:32What the hell are they running over the last three minutes
07:35when you have back-to-back shot clock violations,
07:37and basically your offense is high screen for Steph, and Steph, go ahead and be a hero.
07:43If not, we've got nothing.
07:45So for me, if you're going to rip Shanahan, you need to rip Kerr similarly
07:50because the last three minutes of a game is akin to the red zone,
07:54and what they did in the last three minutes of the game is unconscionable,
07:58and yes, I'm using Steve's word because he wants to talk about how unconscionable it was
08:03that the referees called what they called.
08:05Well, what about what they did on offense because beyond the, what,
08:09there was the pods three, the Kaminga three.
08:12Two shot clock violations.
08:14Yes, they did nothing.
08:16Like what are you running?
08:17What is your get-a-bucket play at the end of a game?
08:20It can't just be Draymond screened for Steph and hope that Steph is the hero.
08:25Come on.
08:26We went five rounds.
08:27You guys tell me.
08:28I know you're going to side with Stani, but it's okay.
08:30I still love you.
08:31If you're going to come out last week and say we're going to marry Kaminga basically,
08:37we want him to be more involved.
08:39Draymond said it.
08:40Kaminga said it, and hey, I'm not saying this guy is Michael Jordan,
08:44but last night was an opportunity, and I told Stani,
08:47I didn't like the way that you had to involve Draymond
08:50to go Vinny test averted to get him the ball.
08:53There was an easier way to get Jonathan Kaminga the ball Willard and dibs
08:57and see what he surveys and see what decisions he makes.
09:01And if he falls on his face, that's how he grows.
09:04But to dial up that play, Stani said, and I'm paraphrasing,
09:08they didn't trust him creating with his handles
09:12or getting to that plateau of surveying the court.
09:16And I'm just like, well, what are we doing here?
09:18If that's how you feel, but yet you're telling us
09:21that it's going to be Kaminga centric, let's live and die with the growing pains.
09:26It can't be any worse, Will.
09:28You are correct.
09:30Don't let anyone tell you that you can't make predictions
09:34because you predicted correctly that I would not agree with you.
09:37That is exactly right.
09:41To me, that's the streets talking.
09:43And I get it.
09:45That's the way we ball when we're at the local park.
09:50I don't think the Warriors have any interest
09:53in handing Jonathan Kaminga the ball and being like,
09:56brother, cook, go, get us a bucket.
09:58Just on a possession, not a game, a possession, Willard.
10:01The biggest possession of the game.
10:03It's a one-point game and there's 30 seconds to go, Goo.
10:06And I don't think they believe in him to do that and they shouldn't.
10:09He's not that, and I don't, like I also don't buy that they openly sit,
10:14like what those things that you sort of cited that they said last week,
10:17I don't think they mean that, where they're like,
10:19okay, it's your team now, Kaminga, go, like, let's see.
10:23And if we lose a game, oh, well, like, I don't think they look at it that way.
10:27I would much rather have the two-man game with Steph and Dre.
10:31And if it leads to a pass to Kaminga, that's fine.
10:34But it was a bad pass.
10:35That's the problem with it.
10:36But conceptually, no, that's not where, like, as a Warrior watcher, my head is.
10:42I don't want a Kaminga clear out in a one-point game.
10:46Or give it to him on the block.
10:47That's what I was telling Stiney.
10:48Easier than having Draymond be a part of it.
10:51Yeah, on the block sounds better.
10:54That sounds better.
10:55The way you pitched it earlier today was give it to him at the top of the arc
10:58and let him cook.
11:00And I just don't think that that is anywhere near the most effective thing
11:03the Warriors can do.
11:04Help me out, Dibbs.
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11:14I just think there's a difference between the guy who makes the decision
11:18late in the game and the guy who ends up getting the last shot.
11:21Sometimes it can be the same guy.
11:23But, like, I'm sitting here saying, what do you want?
11:25They ran a nice play.
11:26He had a guy on his back.
11:29The play was for Kaminga to take the biggest shot of the game,
11:34and Draymond didn't deliver.
11:38Dibbs?
11:39And that is, I think, like play five out of a series of four or five plays
11:44where they did not deliver.
11:46So my bigger question is maybe more global in terms of what are you doing
11:51at the end of games?
11:52Because clearly what they're doing is not working.
11:54Why can't you close out games?
11:56Why did you go three minutes without a point?
11:58You had two shot clock violations.
12:00It looked to me like offensively you didn't really have any flow
12:05or any plan other than set a screen for Steph,
12:08and if he doubles him, give it to Draymond,
12:11and then Draymond will kick it over here.
12:12It doesn't feel to me like there's a lot of offensive strategy down toward
12:17the end of games.
12:18And then the other one, guys, I think it was about 30 seconds left,
12:22and they made a sub, and they brought Looney in,
12:24and they put Looney on Shangoon.
12:26Even though Draymond had been really flummoxing him,
12:30he'd been stifling Shangoon other than the near flagrant,
12:33and it was probably a flagrant .85.
12:36I thought it was going to be a flagrant, but the fact that it wasn't,
12:39I just want to remind Warrior fans who are all like,
12:42oh, it was eight against five all night.
12:45Well, that would have been a flagrant in many, many other circumstances,
12:49and it wasn't.
12:50But then you put Kavon on Shangoon, and Kavon got absolutely toasted.
12:55Shout out, Avocado.
12:57So I don't know what they were doing defensively to make that switch.
13:00Wow.
13:01And that bucket came way too easy.
13:03Oh, man, lefty.
13:04And a little too quick, a little too quickly,
13:06because even though there was still only a three-second difference,
13:10it was still a three-second difference.
13:14And, yeah, I mean, on the penultimate possession with Steph Curry,
13:24you know, I just think if you treat the shot clock like it's the game clock
13:30and you're trying to shoot a buzzer beater,
13:33you might be able to win that game if the ball doesn't get rebounded cleanly,
13:38even if you miss.
13:39But, you know, this is one of those things where,
13:44and Festus said it after the game, he went too soon.
13:47He did all those things.
13:49But he's made that shot a lot in his career.
13:52He has.
13:53And then we get the night-night.
13:56Yeah, I mean, like, if you want to give him a nod for showmanship,
14:01which is, you know what I mean?
14:02Like, sure, that would have been a memorable moment, a big shot.
14:06Or going to Vegas shots can get played all over the Internet, you know,
14:10for the next 24 hours.
14:12Like, that's alluring.
14:14I don't hate that idea.
14:16But, again, I mean, I used to have youth coaches tell me this
14:21because I loved the outside shot too.
14:23And I took a lot of, if you take that, you better make it shots.
14:27And that's what that was.
14:28And he didn't make it.
14:29So, like, he did an okay job of facing the music afterwards.
14:33But you have to.
14:34You have to face the music and you have to take your share of the blame pie
14:39when you shoot a ball with 11 seconds left
14:42and then you leave the game open for all kinds of things to happen
14:47and some bad things did.
14:49I also think, you know, the other thing,
14:51one of the reasons he might have thought about going a little early,
14:55if he thought he had a pretty good look at that time, was,
14:58okay, I'm going to try to put the game away right here.
15:01If I miss it and they get the ball, guess what?
15:06They're not going to score because they can't score against us either.
15:11Right.
15:12But they did the worst possible thing or the worst possible thing happened to them,
15:16depending on the way you look at it, they fouled.
15:19And so now, I mean, I'll take my chances with the Warriors up one,
15:24six seconds to go, set up in their half court,
15:27Houston called a timeout,
15:29and now Houston's got to try to win the game against our set half court defense.
15:33Totally.
15:34I give that a 25% chance of working if you're the Rockets.
15:37At best, with the way things were going in that game.
15:40And so, like, to me, the big word here is and.
15:43You know, Dibbs and everything that everybody's saying here,
15:46this is one of those days where a bunch of things are all right.
15:51Like, I think what Steve said in the press conference is fair
15:54and the Warriors messed this up five different ways.
15:58You know, they just did.
16:00I don't think you can expect that that foul would be called because it never is.
16:06And, you know, bodies are rolling all over the places you're trying to get after a ball.
16:11So there's no way to think that that would happen.
16:14But listen to all the questions we've all just asked about Peyton squirting the ball,
16:19about Steph shooting it when he shot it,
16:21about what's happening at the other end of the court,
16:23about the previous shot clock violations.
16:26They're all valid.
16:27Man.
16:28They're all valid.
16:29There were six on the night, and this is the third time.
16:31And I know they're playing better defenses in the last four games.
16:33They failed to crack 100 points.
16:35You get to the free throw line eight times, six of them by one player, Jonathan Kaminga.
16:40Like, I know there was no Wiggins, and they missed him.
16:43And maybe the game turns out differently if he had played last night.
16:46But the bottom line is Willard Dibbs, that help wanted sign,
16:49is still in the Warriors' window for that bona fide number two score.
16:53And if they're going to keep this up because it's kind of the same,
16:56it ends the same way.
16:58The water gets turned off offensively.
17:00They got to do something.
17:02I don't know who that person is and how they get them.
17:05Man.
17:06The more we talk about this, and I know the LeBron thing is going to be the holiday topic
17:14until we learn otherwise, that seems a little far-fetched,
17:19not completely out of the realm if he were to want it.
17:21But I don't know, man.
17:23The big problem that a lot of us have been talking about is that Jonathan Kaminga makes $7 million.
17:28So if that's your big chip, how do you go get a different big chip when the money has to match?
17:35Who is this person?
17:37You know, Gu, you and I have had so many conversations about number two is currently not in the building.
17:42That's real.
17:43Okay.
17:44What building is he in?
17:45Who is he?
17:46Where is he right now?
17:48I'm at the point.
17:49Is he gettable?
17:50Yeah.
17:51Is he gettable?
17:52Jimmy Butler.
17:53I don't know how to.
17:54I mean, but if that could happen and he's got the Warriors on his list, the X's and O's.
17:58I don't, man, you know, I'm the last one.
18:00I'm just saying I'd rather run Curry's last years and Dre years with that.
18:05And I know it's going to hurt the future a bit, but I feel like we owe him that.
18:09I would love to see Jimmy Buckets, Steph and Dre, because let me tell you what's not going to happen.
18:14Six shot clock violations and two of them happening in the last three possessions.
18:19I couldn't believe that.
18:21Like, oh, my gosh.
18:23Yeah.
18:24Yeah.
18:25It's to me.
18:26It's beyond just the players on the court.
18:28For me, it goes to the coach.
18:30And what are we doing offensively?
18:32Where is the sets?
18:33Where's the scheme to have six in the game is bananas to begin with, but to have too
18:39late in the game and you get to a spot where, you know, your best play is basically your
18:46only play, which is Steph.
18:47Go save us.
18:48Steph, go out there and make a three over the last three minutes.
18:52That was basically about all they had other than, you know, coming to dive into the hoop
18:56and dream on.
18:57And that's a difficult pass.
18:58Tiny, as you know, it's a bad angle for dream on and it's a bad way for coming in to try
19:04to catch that dive into the hoop.
19:06But again, for me, where is the play?
19:09Where is the scheme in the set?
19:11Something that could be more reliable to get you a bucket because the last point you scored
19:16was coming to free throw with three minutes left.
19:18Can I ask you all a question?
19:20And so there's all the number two score stuff.
19:22There's the way the Warriors are performing down the stretch.
19:25How many press conferences do we already have?
19:28What are we 24 games in?
19:30How many postgame press conferences do we already have where the focus has been officiating?
19:37I want to say three or four.
19:39That's interesting.
19:40I'll tell you that coming in last night.
19:43There's the Memphis game with the one that got all out of hand down the stretch where
19:48he was lucky, you know, where he ran after the refs after the game.
19:52I also feel like...
19:55There was one recently, like five games ago.
19:58Was it the Denver game?
20:00Yes, he wanted a timeout.
20:02He wanted Braun to call for a timeout.
20:05I would argue that in less than a third of a season, that's a lot of conversation about
20:12officiating after games because there's always the games where you don't like the officiating.
20:17But as a coach, you know damn well not to say anything.
20:19Yeah.
20:20Steve has elected to talk about this at least three times in the first 24 games.
20:27What do you think's going on there?
20:28Frustration because Willard Durant on the table to me is he has valid points.
20:32But at the end of the day, the game is won and lost on the hardwood.
20:36And I think he is at wit's end.
20:39Do I have the guys that can do it?
20:41Or is it eroding around me?
20:43But that to me, Willard, in that sequence, and I saw it last night, is pure frustration.
20:48Not that he doesn't have any merit that's valid, but that's frustration, man.
20:53I believe.
20:54I think one of the problems the Warriors have, and this is their issue the last three to five minutes,
21:00they don't have a lot of shot creators.
21:04And we can go to Mel.
21:07What about Steph?
21:08What about Wiggins?
21:09What about Kuminga?
21:10And we can argue until we're blue in the face about how good they are at creating their own shot.
21:15But I don't think they've got enough of them and enough of them that can generate a quality shot.
21:22And that's where I hate to do this, but yeah, they missed Wiggins last night.
21:27They did.
21:28They did.
21:29That's true.
21:31I mean, there's nothing wrong with that.
21:33It's a fact.
21:34If you don't have a secondary scorer, then it's better to have two possible secondary scorers when Kuminga and at least Wiggins play in the same game.
21:44And you have Steve Kerr today at four, right?
21:46Yeah, he's been bumped till tomorrow.
21:50Steve Kerr has requested tomorrow, five o'clock, and I don't know if it's to give himself an extra day to kind of decompress after that.
21:58I know they're flying back right now, so it's a little bit of a tight turnaround.
22:02And they're not going to Vegas, so they all had to pack for 11 days on this road trip.
22:07It turned out to be a one-day road trip, which is always awkward when you come home off a trip and you have to put 90 percent of your suitcase back in the drawer and you only put a little bit of it in the laundry.
22:18But I think, to answer Mark's question, the reason why he's been so frustrated with the officials in large part is because it's easier than being frustrated with your team.
22:28You have to live with your team, and so it's easier to be mad at the refs and look at the refs and what they did wrong as opposed to look at your team and say, look, you guys gacked it away over the last three minutes.
22:40If I'm mad at my wife, it's easier for me to be mad at my boss because I don't have to live with my boss.
22:45Yeah, but I would argue it's not just about if you're mad. It's how you choose to express that anger.
22:53And again, Steve came on with us last week, and this was after the pods banging of the table press conference, and clearly stated, I say nothing at a press conference that I haven't sat down and strategically decided to say.
23:07So I get what you're saying, Dibbs, but I don't know if it's that I'm projecting anger somewhere else.
23:13He may well be screaming at his team behind the scenes, too. He's already called pods out in a presser.
23:19I'm just wondering why he is electing to make such a big deal about some of these end of game calls.
23:28Well, for me last night, it was about deflection. He's deflecting the attention away from the real issue, which is one point you scored one point from the 309 mark on.
23:38You had two shot clock violations and you basically gave the game away.
23:43So, yeah, you can say that it's the officials and that was a bad call.
23:47I'm not going to sit here and defend it, although in many people talking about, oh, even an elementary school ref wouldn't have called that.
23:54And as an elementary school ref, I have a little bit of a different perspective on it.
23:59Would you have called it elementary school? I wouldn't have called anything.
24:02I would have let the clock run out and gone down and sat down and had a sandwich.
24:06That's what I would have done.
24:08Usually turkey travels well for the game tonight.
24:12Is it wet? Is it moist down there on the ground?
24:16Yeah, it's a little it's a little spritzy.
24:18OK, at the moment, but we've been watching the report very closely and it's not supposed to be raining yet.
24:24It is supposed to be raining starting right before kickoff and it's supposed to get worse throughout.
24:30My hope is that that's a classic California forecast, which is to say, oh, it's going to rain.
24:36It's going to rain. It's not going to rain, but we'll see.
24:39It is it is a little damp and dark for sure.
24:42And I was hearing you guys kind of talk earlier about Brock Purdy and the wet ball.
24:46I think that's interesting.
24:48I also think that, you know, Dre Greenlaw being being activated as usual.
24:53That is a massive emotional sort of a of a deal.
24:57And and by the way, not the kind of thing that I love to say while watching Stiney put a bag on his shoulder.
25:05The bag is on the shoulder. Dre Greenlaw is back.
25:09That's inspirational. And your your response to that, Stiney, is to is to get up and get ready to leave.
25:16Yeah, well, I thought it was a show meeting, guys.
25:19That makes sense. If you're on your way to Santa Clara, you're on your way to Santa Clara.
25:23After the show meeting, I'm on my way.
25:25OK, guru, we knew you were man of the people, Stiney.
25:30Let me tell you something. You guys do a great job.
25:33Bring it home tonight. And where you're going to be bringing it home is on 95.7.
25:38The game is actually helping. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah.