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00:00Hello, I'm Kaminari!
00:02Delcui-san, you started off strong!
00:05If there's a Delcui-san you'd like to have on the show, please tell us.
00:10I see.
00:11There's a senpai called Nekonisuzu in Titan.
00:15He looks like he'd sell a lot.
00:17Tateno Tokeno-san changed his character in the 19th year of his acting career.
00:21He's now a baby.
00:25He's a baby.
00:26That's what he's become.
00:28He's really into it.
00:29It's really interesting.
00:30I'd like to have him on the show.
00:33Delcui is said to be hated by those who act too much,
00:39and those who show too much of themselves.
00:43We all get together and register on a gourmet site
00:48and tell them to cut down on the number of seats.
00:52Delcui-san's life is full of ups and downs,
00:55but he'll learn how to get through them.
00:58He's been loved by his father since he was a kid,
01:02and he's been loved by his father since he was a kid.
01:06My father used to say,
01:08don't be a fool if you don't have the will.
01:11That's amazing!
01:13Delcui-san is a man of steel,
01:16and he's made franchises all over the country.
01:21Delcui-san is here!
01:27How to make shigedashi tantanmen in Kunimatsu.
01:30Are you a genius?
01:36Delcui-san is a man of steel.
01:41This is Delcui-san.
01:47This is him.
01:48Delcui-san is a man of steel,
01:51and he's been loved by his father since he was a kid.
01:55Delcui-san is a man of steel.
01:58He's never been hated.
02:01I didn't know Hiroshima was famous for shigedashi tantanmen.
02:04Let's call him out.
02:06Come out, Delcui-san!
02:10Nice to meet you.
02:12I'm Matsuzaki from Chukasoba Kunimatsu.
02:14Nice to meet you, Matsuzaki-san.
02:17Chukasoba Kunimatsu?
02:19That's right. We used to sell ramen.
02:22Now, we sell tantanmen.
02:26Matsuzaki Tsukasa is a founder of Chukasoba Kunimatsu
02:29and a representative of Nanamo Foods, a noodle company.
02:34He's famous for shigedashi tantanmen in Hiroshima.
02:40Delcui-san has 13 branches all over the country.
02:44Is shigedashi tantanmen popular in Hiroshima?
02:47Yes, shigedashi tantanmen is more popular than tantanmen.
02:51It's famous.
02:53Kunimatsu!
02:54That's right.
02:55It's Kunimatsu!
02:57Did you get it?
02:59It's K-U-N-I-M-A-T-S-U, right?
03:03Why am I the only one who got it right?
03:05This is brain training.
03:08I'm curious about shigedashi tantanmen.
03:11Can I try it?
03:12Of course. It's near our restaurant.
03:14I'm happy. Thank you.
03:17I'm looking forward to it.
03:19Here you go.
03:21Three tantanmen, please.
03:23Okay.
03:27Please enjoy.
03:29The smell of meat and pepper is so good.
03:34Thank you for it.
03:37Shigedashi tantanmen
03:43It's good.
03:45It's good.
03:46It's good.
03:47It's good.
03:48I can't stop eating it.
03:49The way the noodles absorb water is also good.
03:51That's right.
03:52That's the best way to calculate.
03:53If you mix it, it's good.
03:55The noodles are well-balanced.
03:57There's no coke now, so it's calculated.
04:00That's right.
04:01It's good.
04:02It's the best.
04:04How did Shigedashi tantanmen come to be?
04:09Let's learn some life-changing tips from Mr. Del Cui.
04:14Let's follow the miracle of Mr. Del Cui.
04:20Mr. Del Cui was born in his early childhood.
04:25He's 22 years old now.
04:28Let's move on.
04:30He was born in Tokyo.
04:32He was born in Tokyo.
04:34He wasn't good at studying.
04:37He had a sense of inferiority.
04:39He wasn't good at studying.
04:40No, he wasn't stupid.
04:42His father was in the Tokyo University Law School.
04:45Oh, I see.
04:47When he took a test in his 90s, he was beaten up.
04:51In his 90s?
04:53Did he have a hand?
04:54He had a hand and a foot.
04:55A hand and a foot?
04:56Wait.
04:57Was he in the Law School?
04:58That's right.
04:59That's amazing.
05:00He was really good.
05:01What about your siblings?
05:02I have a younger brother and a younger sister.
05:04How was their study?
05:06They were worse than me.
05:07But they were all damaged by your brother?
05:11I told them,
05:12I told them,
05:14I told them,
05:16I told them,
05:18I told them,
05:19I told them,
05:20I told them,
05:23His father was strict.
05:26He was strict until he graduated from university.
05:30He is 22 years old.
05:31He got a job at a construction company.
05:36He is 22 years old.
05:37That's right.
05:38He is positive.
05:39He is positive.
05:40He is positive.
05:41Did you enjoy your job?
05:42I was able to leave my house.
05:44You were able to leave your house?
05:45I was able to leave my house.
05:46I see.
05:47The world was wide.
05:51Mr. Delcui worked hard at the construction site.
05:56After that, he changed jobs to a publishing company.
05:59The draft was processed again.
06:04The ramen doesn't smell yet.
06:06It doesn't smell like soup.
06:09Do you want to go there?
06:10Let's go.
06:11It's not just ramen.
06:13It's an interior construction site.
06:17He opened his own company in Nagano.
06:24I started my business in Tokyo and moved to Nagano.
06:27So you became the president of the company.
06:29Yes, I was the first person to hire people.
06:34It was the best financial situation.
06:36Even now?
06:37Yes, even now.
06:38Even now?
06:39Yes, even now.
06:40Oh, really?
06:41I used to live in Setagaya.
06:43Oh, Setagaya.
06:45Why did you move to this company?
06:48I used to work in a construction company.
06:52So it was easy for me to focus on my work.
06:54I worked as a colleague for a while.
06:57Then I got a job that I usually couldn't get.
07:00What was your job?
07:03The result of being too excited.
07:06It was a big construction site.
07:08It took three to four months to build one.
07:10I had nothing to do.
07:12So I just drank and walked around.
07:15He became the president of the company and didn't go to the construction site.
07:19He was about to lose sight of himself.
07:22He spent his days drinking and walking around.
07:25I used to go to the bar and drink every day at 5 o'clock.
07:29I was told that I was too busy to work.
07:32My brother was the president of a noodle company.
07:36He helped me.
07:38That's how I first saw a food factory.
07:41Here is the noodle factory.
07:44This is the noodle factory.
07:46I started to work at a noodle factory in Nagano.
07:51Delcui decided to work at a noodle factory.
07:55Delcui decided to work at a noodle factory.
07:59After that, Delcui became a sales manager.
08:01After that, Delcui became a sales manager.
08:04How many times did Delcui sell noodles?
08:075 times.
08:095 times?
08:11When Delcui was at the construction site,
08:13Delcui still had a business card with a food delivery company.
08:19Delcui went to Tokyo in the evening and came back.
08:24Delcui used his connections and earned 20 million yen a year.
08:30Delcui made Delcui earn 100 million yen a year.
08:33Delcui made Delcui earn 100 million yen a year.
08:38Delcui made noodles with his connections.
08:40When our CEO, who ran the noodle company came to Kama hands cream company,
08:44Delcui told Delcui he didn't want to make noodles anymore.
08:49I was surpassed by Delcui.
08:52Delcui was delighted at Delcui's past.
08:53Delcui was delighted at Delcui's past.
08:55The delicate feelings entangle him.
08:59The actor, who cut his thread,
09:02When he came to Hiroshima to meet his friend,
09:04He came to Hiroshima to meet his friends, and there...
09:08In Hiroshima Prefecture, there's a place where you can change your life.
09:12Ah, ah, ah, ah.
09:13The Shinranshi Tantanmen that we serve isn't from my shop.
09:17It's from a very famous and delicious shop.
09:20I was very shocked when I ate it.
09:24And now, there's a shop in Hiroshima that makes Tantanmen.
09:28So this is where you meet Tantanmen.
09:29That's right.
09:31The shop where Matsuzaki Shacho ate a cup that changed his life.
09:35It's the Shinranshi Tantanmen Kisaku.
09:39It's the origin of Hiroshima's Shinranshi Tantanmen.
09:43It's a very popular shop that has fans all over the country.
09:47I came here to meet my friends.
09:50I've always hated spicy food.
09:52Ah, you hated it?
09:55How did you feel after eating it?
09:57When I ate it, it didn't taste good.
09:59It was just spicy.
10:00I see.
10:00Is Hiroshima people a little strange?
10:04It was so spicy that I thought,
10:05Why do you like this?
10:08The encounter was the worst Shinranshi Tantanmen.
10:11However, after that...
10:13I came here by car.
10:15When I got back, I went to Biwako.
10:17It was so spicy that I wanted to eat it.
10:21Did you suddenly come to Biwako?
10:23Yes, I thought it was this.
10:24You still wanted to eat it?
10:26Yes, yes.
10:26What happened? What was your desire?
10:28I bought all the ingredients I could think of and made it at home.
10:36I made it while I remembered.
10:37While you remembered?
10:38Yes.
10:39Did you make it?
10:40I couldn't make it at all.
10:42I didn't have any cooking experience.
10:44You wanted to eat it so much that you wanted to make it yourself.
10:46That's right.
10:48Mr. Matsuzaki, obsessed with the charm of Shinranshi Tantanmen,
10:52left the noodle company.
10:54It's only been two years since the shocking encounter.
10:59At the age of 35, in Nagano Prefecture...
11:01You're going to open a Tantanmen restaurant, right?
11:03It's here!
11:03Oh!
11:04A ramen shop!
11:05It's here.
11:05It opened in Nagano Prefecture.
11:07What kind of ramen was this?
11:09It was a combination of regular Chinese noodles and miso ramen.
11:12I made a Tantanmen that I remember.
11:16How was that Tantanmen?
11:17Did you remember Hiroshima Tantanmen?
11:19I was able to imitate it a lot.
11:21I made it in a completely different way.
11:23It was my original way.
11:26An ideal taste that was completed on its own.
11:29But the reality is...
11:32It didn't sell well?
11:34It was the worst.
11:35There were nine customers a day.
11:37Oh, I see.
11:39We only had two meals a week.
11:41Oh, I see.
11:42You tried it yourself, right?
11:44Yes.
11:45It was definitely good for you?
11:46It was really good.
11:47Right?
11:48I thought, this is it.
11:49There was no such food in Nagano.
11:51Oh, I see.
11:53At that time, you were cutting down on the money you had accumulated.
11:58That's right.
11:59For a year, I started calculating that I could open a shop where even zero people could buy ingredients.
12:04Oh, I see.
12:06I have a surprisingly stubborn personality.
12:09You don't want to make a big mistake.
12:10That's right.
12:12The first ramen shop was completely empty.
12:16Furthermore...
12:18I was kicked out in a flash.
12:20I was kicked out because I couldn't pay my rent.
12:24You had a hard time, too.
12:25I was kicked out, too.
12:29After I was kicked out, I couldn't find a job at all.
12:32My plan was to challenge Hiroshima at the end when I was about 50 years old.
12:35I thought that would be the culmination of my ramen life.
12:39But I decided to challenge Hiroshima first.
12:42You decided to challenge Hiroshima first.
12:45President Matsuzaki decided to challenge Hiroshima with high expectations.
12:51In 2009, he opened a ramen shop in Shinagaki, Hiroshima.
12:56He started with enthusiasm.
13:00I came here when I was 38 years old.
13:02But it's still the same.
13:05I couldn't sell ramen when I came here.
13:07You couldn't sell ramen.
13:08The second day's sales were terrible.
13:10Oh, I see.
13:12I was confident that I could sell the ramen I made in Hiroshima.
13:18I didn't think it was delicious.
13:20But it was more spicy than Nagano.
13:23I thought I would be able to sell it in a good restaurant.
13:26I thought I would succeed.
13:28Didn't you feel bad?
13:30You couldn't sell it well in Hiroshima.
13:33I ate this ramen for a year.
13:36Really?
13:39Mr. Del Cuiso answered with a loud voice.
13:42But after this, he discovered a terrible incident where he felt the darkness of the food industry.
13:48When I came to Hiroshima, I was written on the Internet.
13:51I was told to register on a gourmet site and lower the price.
13:58I was told to register on a gourmet site and lower the price.
14:01Mr. Tsukasa Matsudaki, the founder of Chuka Soba Kunimatsu, is the secretary of the Hiroshima Shirunashi Tantanmen Boob.
14:09When he opened a restaurant in Hiroshima, he experienced the darkness of the food industry.
14:18I was told to register on a gourmet site and lower the price.
14:20I was told to register on a gourmet site and lower the price.
14:23I was told to register on a gourmet site and lower the price.
14:26I was told to register on a gourmet site and lower the price.
14:30So we got together and registered on a gourmet site.
14:35We got together and registered on a gourmet site and lowered the price.
14:40So we got together and registered on a gourmet site and lowered the price.
14:43But what kind of trouble was there?
14:46You're doing things like ...
14:49I have to pretend not to notice.
14:52The 39-year-old who faced such a problem a year later, the graph suddenly rose. What is it?
15:02I got married to my favorite woman.
15:06Was this marriage when the store was not doing well?
15:11It was after I was able to eat ramen.
15:16Did you feel like you were going to work harder at the ramen shop?
15:19Yes.
15:20Did the store start to get popular?
15:22Yes.
15:23I was shown on TV.
15:25Oh, really?
15:27The popularity rose sharply as it was taken up by the media.
15:32The story of Kunimatsu, who gradually increased the number of fans,
15:36was also reported to a certain person.
15:41When my father saw the video on TV on YouTube,
15:46he praised me for the first time in my life.
15:49Were you happy?
15:51I was surprised.
15:53I was happy.
15:54Let's move on to the 46-year-old.
15:56The number of fans has increased even more.
15:58The number of fans has increased even more.
16:01Expansion.
16:03Wow!
16:04There are 20 stores all over the country.
16:06Yes.
16:07Is it a franchise?
16:09Yes.
16:10From Sendai to Okinawa.
16:12From Sendai to Okinawa.
16:13Wow.
16:14Can I talk about the franchise?
16:17This.
16:18How to make Kunimatsu Shirunashi Tantanmen.
16:22Is it popular?
16:23Yes.
16:25Can you make Kunimatsu with this?
16:27Yes.
16:29Anyone can do it.
16:31Are you a waste genius?
16:33What?
16:35The recipe for Shirunashi Tantanmen is on the Kunimatsu website.
16:42President Matsuzaki had a thought in this action.
16:47When it was announced, we were in a line.
16:50There were a lot of people who went to the ramen shop and disappeared.
16:54I thought it would be hard.
16:56If it helps you.
16:58You eat at other ramen shops as a customer.
17:01Yes.
17:02Did I make this?
17:05Did you go to the store by chance?
17:07I think so.
17:09Did you feel like my recipe was delivered?
17:12I'm glad.
17:14I'm a little annoyed if it's louder than mine.
17:18The release of the recipe had a big impact on the Shirunashi Tantanmen boom in Hiroshima.
17:24It made the name of Kunimatsu known to the world.
17:29However, the food industry suffered a devastating damage.
17:36It's going down again.
17:38It was expanded to 20 stores.
17:40Next year?
17:42It's going down as much as my father.
17:44It's going down as much as I was hit.
17:49Oh, I see.
17:51It's because of COVID-19.
17:53It was amazing.
17:55I'm curious about this.
17:57It's hard because of COVID-19.
17:59What were you thinking?
18:01I was thinking about how long I could pay my employees.
18:04How many months do I have left?
18:06How long do you think you have left?
18:09It was the most dangerous time I calculated.
18:13I had about a year and a month left.
18:15You managed to get over it.
18:17Before that, COVID-19 was over.
18:20Mr. Delcui, who has entered the food industry and has been driven into a dead end.
18:25What do you always remember about the situation at the end of the cliff?
18:30I think it's easier than when I was a kid.
18:34It was harder than it is now.
18:37It was really hard.
18:39My father used to say,
18:41Don't be a fool.
18:45That's too strong.
18:47It's true.
18:48A fool holding a stone is the scariest.
18:51I don't know what to do.
18:54I'm grateful to my father for that.
18:56I'm very grateful.
18:57If it wasn't for COVID-19, I would have been broken.
19:02However, his strict love for his father left a deep impression on Mr. Matsuzaki.
19:10You talk like you're talking to someone else.
19:15I'm not supposed to have a will, but I'm not supposed to have an opinion.
19:20I have a habit of not talking until I'm asked what I think.
19:28You're answering me because I'm asking you a question.
19:31You didn't say, by the way, did you?
19:33I can't say.
19:35His strict love for his father became a support.
19:39Mr. Matsuzaki, who has overcome all difficulties at the same time, has a feeling that he has been through so far.
19:48What kind of person do you think will succeed in business in the future?
19:57In my industry alone, it's a big deal how much I can put up with the money at the end of the year.
20:04It's a popular store, so you want to start something new.
20:08To put it simply, it's a ramen shop, but if you start a ramen shop, it won't go well.
20:16I'm trying to do only this.
20:18Customers are happy that the taste hasn't changed.
20:22That's right. I think Hiroshima has that tendency.
20:25I've been doing the same thing for a long time, and I think I'll continue to do it even if the number of customers decreases.
20:30I think it's a little bit of a comedian.
20:33Do you do yakiniku?
20:36Don't specify it.
20:38It's just the two of us.
20:42From here on, it's a healing meal that heals Mr. Terukui's mind and body.
20:47First of all...
20:50Cheers!
20:52Thank you for your hard work.
20:56It's delicious.
20:58This is a healing meal.
21:00What kind of store is it?
21:01It's a teppanyaki shop in Okonomiya Prefecture called Hiroki.
21:04I see.
21:05After work, when I'm with my friends, I often eat it.
21:10When you're having a hard time, when you're having fun, you're drinking at this shop, right?
21:14That's right.
21:16I'm looking forward to it.
21:18Here, too.
21:19It's based on Tantanmen.
21:22Kunimatsu-yaki!
21:24Kunimatsu's Tantanmen without soup is okonomiyaki?
21:27What does it taste like?
21:35There's Tantanmen in it.
21:37This pepper and this minced meat.
21:40It's delicious.
21:42The pepper goes well with the alcohol.
21:44That's right.
21:45It's delicious.
21:47It's really delicious.
21:48Do all the employees come to this shop?
21:51Yes, of course.
21:52Do they come to this shop when you drink?
21:53They come all the way to Hitenchu.
21:56Are they close to you?
21:58They're like my friends.
22:00Do you have any friends who are more friendly?
22:03Of course.
22:04In my position, I have a boss and a part-timer.
22:09But I'm on the other side of the line.
22:12The part-timer who comes to me when I'm in a good mood is the most important.
22:16Next is the employee.
22:18I always tell everyone that it's wrong for a part-time employee to take care of everyone.
22:27Is that a reaction from your father?
22:29That's right.
22:31The president doesn't have an opinion.
22:33He doesn't have a will.
22:35When did you say you have a will?
22:37You've been saying you don't have a will for a long time.
22:39I can't escape from this curse.
22:42I can't escape from this curse.
22:45We've heard a lot about your story.
22:49You must be full.
22:50I ate a lot.
22:51You drank a lot.
22:52It was the best.
22:53The important thing is what you learned.
22:55Please teach us.
22:58I lost the juice in my brain.
23:02I'm not stupid.
23:04The scene where I can't shake.
23:06The scene where I can't shrink.
23:08It was great.
23:10Like that noodle.
23:11Like that noodle.
23:13If you want to see this program again, please watch the second episode.
23:18My father said,
23:20Don't have a will, you idiot.
23:24That's great.
23:26The idiot who has a will is the scariest.
23:29That's right.
23:30I don't know what to do.