15 mins of Heat is back! The Heat beat the snot out of the Trail Blazers 119 to 98. They are trying to trade Jimmy Butler’s suspension services from conduct detrimental to the team to failure to render services which increases his lost wages by 50%... Tyler Herro makes some interesting comments following the Heat's 3rd straight Jimmy Butler-less victory. What are the Heat going to do when Jimmy returns? How can the Heat ever trust Jimmy Butler again?
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00:0015 minutes of heat for your ass right here on five 60 W Q a M mighty heat victorious
00:09on Saturday night, one 19 to 98 over the Portland trailblazers. Joe Cronin had the drink that
00:21in from his dumb ass seat as he saw, Oh my God, these guys have been trade for pretty
00:26good. Pretty good. All of them. All of them. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't know if you
00:36should be telling this story. Cause you were, you were a hook, line and sinker all tied.
00:40I don't know. Does anybody who should tell the story more than me? Why should I? Yeah.
00:47That's the point. That's the point. This idiot sat there and he had the Andre not playing
00:55Rob Williams, a third, not playing. I don't even know where I'm knocking Brock. So my
01:01question to you is this, if he's a fool, wouldn't you be a fool too, for one to get rid of him?
01:07No. He's just a fool for not wanting to take him. He's a fool for not even picking up the
01:12phone. Okay. He's a fool for not even picking up the phone. And by the way, Jimmy, you should
01:16be mad at him too. If Dan was here, maybe you would've gotten that money on. I don't
01:19know. No, the point is the point is yo bitch dude. Incredible. This kid is so good. Is
01:29he like a 0.5 or we go call him a 0.4 cause he's, he's, he's anything he wants to be.
01:36Yeah. Anything he wants to be. And he's, he's out there hitting threes, driving to the hoop
01:43on alley-oops to Kahlil where monster that's Tyler hero, onions, dude, big time three after
01:53big time three. And, and this Joe Cronin had to sit there drinking it in. And let's just,
02:00let's just take a little look at his beloved scoot Henderson. Nobody's better than scoot
02:07three points. Come on, dude. Come on. Three points. This is the guy, but is he averaging
02:14nobody's business? Good. Nobody can't be averaging 20. Right. They're terrible. He's averaging
02:22a 10.9 points per game. Yeah. Like really ran Dame out of town for him. That's what
02:30I'm saying. You could have just kept Dame ran him out of town because nobody's better
02:35than that. That's good. Great job. Joe Cronin, you idiot. He hold another opponent down to
02:42under a hundred points. I have one three straight three straight for the third time this year.
02:47We're in 19, 19 or 20 and 17 direct 2017, 2017. Okay. They got the Clippers tonight.
02:58There was a lot of questions. Was this going to be postponed? Who knows? Game will go on
03:02his schedule. 10 30 is your tip off tonight from that new dome of that, which is supposedly
03:07awesome. The new, the new Steve Ballmer dome, whatever the hell they call it. Yeah. I've
03:14heard great things, but who cares about the Clippers? Well, Kawhi, I think is, should
03:19be back today. Cause I think he's away from the team room personally because of a family
03:23and the fires and all that. I do believe he's he's backside. He's only played two games
03:27for him this year, but they should have Kawhi. We got fat bum Norman pals having a good season
03:36heat or six and a half point underdogs tonight to the Clippers.
03:42Jeez. Six and a half point underdogs. Are they that good? I mean, they have the same
03:49record as the heat. I mean, people look at the West is better than the East, but really?
03:54So I'm going to give you the top, what I would consider as of right now, I'm going
04:01to just throw what I think are the top four or five teams. You got Cleveland, the Celtics,
04:09um, how did the Knicks, how are the Knicks doing next to third Knicks and is it Pacers
04:19or Magic? I don't know who the hell's playing. Ben Carroll just came back for them. Yeah.
04:27So I'll give you that. I give those five teams right now. The Pacers are playing a basketball.
04:34The Bucks have kind of fallen off after they got things together. And then the heat of
04:38the team. I didn't include the Bucks. So think about that. I didn't include the Bucks. So
04:46I gave you five teams. Now let's go out West. We'll go. Okay. See. Okay. See who's thumping
04:55everybody. Right. Yeah. Except Cleveland. They beat Cleveland. No. Oh, they lost a Cleveland.
05:03Oh, they killed the Knicks. The next year they killed the Knicks. Yeah. So you got,
05:09okay. See, um, Houston, Houston, Houston, another young rung on team. So the West has
05:17been flipped upside down a little bit. Cause you don't have the normal, you know, Denver
05:23golden state, you know, those teams leading the charge. Mostly golden state. Yeah. Denver's
05:29not as good as they probably were their championship year, but they're fourth right now. Yeah.
05:35injuries to their fifth. The Lakers are six right now. They're 20 and 16. The heat got
05:41them coming up. So like the West isn't better. Okay. No, I don't, I don't think the West
05:47is not better than the East. If I, if we had a tournament with the top five, I think if
05:52you look at the team, well, I guess what probably people go for that is like, if you look at
05:56the teams that are probably like playing in below, like right now the heat, which is the
06:00same record as the six seat, but everybody below them is Detroit. Who's a lot better
06:04than people thought Atlanta. We've seen they're pretty athletic. They're fine. Nobody really
06:08believes in Chicago. They're under 500. If you look under the playoff rankings of there
06:12be Clippers, Timberwolves. I mean, they got ant, you know, Kings have been playing a lot
06:16better. And then everybody's favorite team, the sons who, I mean, they're 500, right?
06:22No, I got you. No, I get, I get what the argument that people would have about the West is the
06:28players. And the argument I have about the East is the teams, right? Like the teams are
06:36just better.
06:37I think they're pretty close. I think that, I think it's pretty close. If, if right now,
06:45if I had to say is, is the NBA champion coming out of the East or the West said East, right?
06:53I mean, I still would say Boston's probably the perennial favorite. Then I would say,
06:58okay. See, okay. See, now that would be a, that would be a hell of a series because geez,
07:07SGA looks like a tarantula and he doesn't, he shoots unorthodox, but he gets the ball in.
07:13Yeah. But either way, the heat is six and a half point dogs. And also you got to remember that
07:17that's a Clippers team that really has been pretty decent. They haven't had Kawhi and they're
07:20getting Kawhi back tonight. So that's probably why they're such a heavy, but comments afterwards
07:29from your Miami heat, as we are now three and two in the Jimmy Butler suspension, two more games to
07:37go, which means we are staring the barrel down of a, of a Friday night return. I guess we got
07:44Clippers and Lakers Clippers and Lakers. Ooh, you know, the, the Lakers got their own version of,
07:52of Duncan Reeves. Oh yeah. I think Reeves is more like a redneck hero.
08:01Yeah. A little bit taller. He's a little bit taller too. Right. Probably Reeves. I don't
08:06think he's much taller. He's a, he's six, five. So no, he's about the same. Okay. Same height.
08:13Um, but what, what you have a problem with? Okay. Yeah. Oklahoma. Yeah. I thought it was from
08:18Arkansas. Uh, it says he was Oklahoma, but that's a college he went to. Well, isn't he from Arkansas?
08:25I don't know. I'll take your word for it. So far, those two lead me to believe that. Yeah. He may
08:29have a little redneck in him. He's from Newark, Arkansas. Wow. Hey, can I just say
08:41Hmm. Arkansas is right above Louisiana. I have never stepped foot in Arkansas.
08:48Do you want to know the population of, uh, Newark, Arkansas?
08:5113. They're all related. Uh, 1,178. Damn. He won two state titles in Arkansas. Wow.
09:05Our own lovable, intangible Tyler hero. He's been lighting the world on fire. He had 32.
09:09He's been all year, all year. You know what? That that's your score. That's your guy. If you
09:14leave him alone, he'll get you 25 a night, right? That's what this team needs, right? This team
09:19needs a 25 point guy that I know I can count on. I know I can count on these 25. He's been
09:26incredible. He's been incredible. And he poured in a, he poured in 32 more this past one, seven
09:31from downtown, uh, Portland made a little run ski. They got to seven in the fourth quarter and Tyler,
09:37you know, hit a big three that put the heat back up 10. And that was kind of all she wrote
09:41after that. I got to tell you that he, that he could go five intangibles
09:50and hold their own. They would need a center. They don't have a big, yeah.
09:55Love's not getting any run now, but they can do that one for two minutes. They can do all
10:01intangibles for two minutes. The intangibles have been strong. The intangibles have been strong.
10:06Um, but this is, uh, this was Tyler hero after the game.
10:12Oh, here we go. I'm just rallying around each other. Um, making it about the guys that are
10:19here. Now the guys that are in this locker room, um, and we got enough. So that's all that matters.
10:26Ooh. Hey,
10:27Hey,
10:31topes. Normally they do that to warm. Normally I would say you're always looking into something.
10:44It was making it about the guys that are here. Now, the guys that are in this locker room,
10:51um, and we got enough. So that's all that matters. Now I will say this,
10:58that is sports talk. We have enough, you know, we got to go with the guys we had,
11:04but here's the deal. The situation makes you look at those same comments because he would
11:12have gave the same comments if somebody was injured. Right. And if somebody was injured
11:18and out for a couple of weeks, you would have been like, however, that's not the situation we
11:24in right now. So my question to you is you see the team coming together. You hear what some of them
11:38are saying. And I'm going to tell you like this, a lot of what you hear comes from the meeting
11:49that you have with your coach. Right. So the coach will kind of belly check was awesome at this.
11:57Right. He would during the week, put the narrative out there and we would just kind of
12:02regurgitate that and it kind of give you a free pass without having to answer, you know, questions
12:08like you, you know, to get yourself in trouble. Right. So, but if he's saying that
12:16an organization is saying that, which that's what you would say, right. You want to just keep it
12:22moving. You want to grow whatever. What happens on Friday? I don't know because that you're three
12:31and two, you're, you're in a groove, right? Here's the, the, the thing that nobody knows
12:40what's Jimmy going to be when he gets back. You said you got to start him.
12:46Here was a Haywood Highsmith afterwards. He said, quote, this was to Eric and John,
12:51everybody's buying in the vibes are great. And everybody's locked in the team chemistry
12:56off the court is amazing as well. And he had come off a game where he had poured in
13:03four, three pointers and five steals. He was awesome.
13:07Wonder why everyone's mentioning. And then this was from Eric Spolstra afterwards.
13:14So, so here's the, here's the, here's the lead message and all the other people are a and B,
13:21but this is the message. And I promise you, it was going to be something along the same lines.
13:25He was asked about Tyler hero first, something pretty great about Tyler hero, but then listen
13:31to the end of it as well with old SPO. Yeah. Tonight. Well, actually in a lot of instances,
13:38this year is reminding me of another player. I'm not going to say you have to figure that out.
13:44But you know, this movement off the ball and the skill level the passing the handling,
13:51the scoring at all three levels, the ignite ability, the, the flair for the moment,
13:57you know, in an opposing arenas, all of those things, that was a nice play, but I also liked
14:02the one where they went to Nico and Nico did the exact same thing to Tyler going the other way and
14:07through a right-hand hook pass, you know, for the three there there's everybody's starting to
14:13develop a nice chemistry, you know, particularly just on this road trip. Hopefully we can just
14:20build on that. Wow. Hmm. That was talking about Stephanie. Yeah. Hmm. What do you think,
14:27Toby? Do you think he was talking about stuff? No. The player that shall not be named. I thought
14:32it was talking about Wade. Yeah. No. Every time he does that move and play off the ball like that.
14:40Yeah. But he wasn't like a spot up shooter. Like you can take, you can play off the ball
14:45that cut and then things like that. I got you. Um, so I guess I got thrown up by the six, five
14:54and six, three pointers. Yeah, that wasn't me. That's true. That wasn't always tremendous. Again,
15:00the breather line towel is okay. Get into the free throw line. Right. That's how we can threes.
15:05I think he means just the flair for the dramatic. Okay. But we're all, we're all like Bill Nye,
15:11the science guy here. We're just talking chemistry. We're just talking chemistry.
15:14We're talking a lot of chemistry. So again, it's Monday now. They have two more games. Yep.
15:23What if they come off this road trip? Five and two come back home.
15:29It'll be five and one six game trip. Oh, there'll be five. Oh no. It's two and two
15:36they lost that stupid Utah game at home. Three, three and two since Jimmy's been out.
15:41That's three and one on the trip. Okay. Three and one trip. So say if they come back five,
15:47right. And then Jimmy comes back. Oh dude. Come on. You, you, you're, you're, you're in the
15:57trenches, baby. Give us, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I have no idea. The whole word is
16:03they're telling everybody, Hey, be prepared. He's going to come back. But I don't know because
16:08there's no trade for him. Like the, the guy only wants his boat. If the guy wanted to go somewhere
16:14else, would they like, he left here saying, I got to get my joy back. Can you do it here? No.
16:21The first word reports were trade me anywhere, which turned out to be boldly because he only
16:26wants to go to one team. And it's a team that gives him an extension. That team has a player
16:29who can decide whether or not he wants to be traded. That guy doesn't seem like he wants to
16:32be traded. Plus if he did want to be traded, the team that he would be traded to doesn't want him
16:35back. So then you got to find a third team that he would be agreeable to be traded to. And that's
16:38really hard to find. So I don't know. I don't know what they do. Jimmy seems to be stuck and
16:43the team is playing real high. May has been playing incredible on this road trip, Nico.
16:49I mean, my God, so good. Now I don't think that's going to disrupt too much. Cause Nico's going to
16:55come off the bench, but certainly for Jaime, you know, Jaime, it's not, I think a coincidence that
17:00his best games have been with Jimmy out trying to make me work now. Could it damage your big
17:05thing is how could the big thing with Jimmy is like, even if he did double super secret promise,
17:12how can you trust him? Right. How can you trust him? How can you trust him? I don't know.
17:19I don't know. This is one of those things that has to be like a team plane vote on the way home.
17:23I mean, he usually fly dry rides on his own plane.
17:27No, I'm talking about like just everybody, like they decide on the trip home from Los Angeles.
17:30Yay or nay. What if you, uh, look, it could be a conversation that
17:38the players in the organization have to have, like, what do you want to do here?
17:44This is not about what you feel about Jimmy. This is about us winning games.
17:53And, and what do you, what do you do? Because if Jimmy comes back and is fine, then no problems.
18:00Great. But if Jimmy comes back and does what he did before he left, now you're impacting two or
18:08three other players, of course, guys who were in a flow that now have to sit back and watch you play.
18:15So it's, uh, it's a tough situation in that you could always take Jimmy for his word.
18:24And because of the beginning of this year and what happened before, uh, he was suspended.
18:31Now we are just unsure of, of how to feel about what he says or what the heat said.
18:38He could be saying that just so, you know, keep everything status quo.
18:44Yeah. That's been the heat's move the entire time. It was like, what do we say? That just is
18:47like, Hey, don't think you're going to rattle us. So you tell the people who want to try it,
18:51like we're prepared to bring them back. Right. But is he prepared to play? We don't know. I mean,
18:56he's been working out. Uh, he's been working out with, uh, with, with coach Octavio De La
19:02Grana back at the facility. Spoke, wouldn't say anything about this. Like he was asked by
19:06Ira this weekend about those. And he goes, those are between me and coach. I'm not going to give
19:10you guys anything basically. Right. So it's just a, it's a terrible, it's a terrible spot to be in
19:20because basically you build franchises and you build teams based on as much information that
19:30you could possibly know and see through a player's actions, through his play, through
19:35his development and what have you. Right. And so that's how you build a team and you have an
19:42idea of what everybody on the floor can do. Now you're in a situation where you've seen a lot of
19:50your young players start to grow and start to get comfortable in a role. And you got a guy who said,
19:56you don't want to be here, but then he did say it. And then he said, you're going to ball. And then
20:01as an organization, how do you handle the uncertainty when you really don't, you've never
20:12had this in your organization? It's look, it's, it's definitely a weird scenario.
20:18It's definitely a weird scenario. And I really don't know. I just feel bad. I think that the
20:23coaching staff can handle it. I think spoke and handle it, but I do feel bad for the players
20:27like, I don't think the players, they just start getting their run. Some of these guys just started
20:31getting some consistent minutes. I know that like Nikola Jovich is one of those guys. He loves Jimmy
20:36Butler. Like we know that that's a guy that he has a lot of love for, but this is also his time.
20:41This is like, this is his moment. I feel like this is like one of his, his time to Tyler plays a
20:47little different, right? Yeah. But I think if Tyler, I think if Ty, I think if Tyler was,
20:54I think if, again, if he, if he felt like he was going to get a whole Jimmy Butler back,
20:57I think if the entire team felt like they were going to get a Jimmy Butler, who was,
21:00I think they'd be okay with it, but you just don't know because the Jimmy Butler has got to
21:04be looking at this. Like I come back on Friday, I got three weeks to get out of here. Right.
21:09You know, but like, at that point, if you feel like he's pulling it again, then you just bench
21:15I guess. I don't know what to read on that. I'm saying here, if, if I'm Pat Riley,
21:24do I have to make a decision based on if, or what I think, because say, if you even think it,
21:32do you bench him to start? So just sit him there on the bench, getting paid. I don't like, I have
21:38no idea what, but, but keep in mind, these are two strong willed guys. Right.
21:44James says the heat dealt with us with Dion waiters. Yeah. Dion waiters. They dealt with
21:50it with Dion waiters when Jimmy came here. And by the way, they did have games where like they
21:55started running out of bodies and they were still not playing James Johnson and Dion waiters. It got
22:00to a point where I think legitimately they had to play them because they ran out of guys.
22:04Um, and then that was almost at a point where like, yes, SPO will do that. But those guys
22:10weren't the best players anymore. Cause Jimmy was on the team. It was, it was, you know, Jimmy BAM
22:15Goran, you know, like this one is one of those where it's like, you have these guys and yeah,
22:22they're all Tyler and bam, their credential and whatnot, but you have these young guys
22:27that you want to kind of lean into and, and, and the heater probably got to be in there.
22:31Their mindset of like, what are we deciding this season is going to be? Do we feel like
22:34even without Jimmy that, you know, we want to get this to the folks. Cause it's like,
22:39they're not far out of this thing. No, by any means. No. And how close to the East is.
22:45And if these guys keep developing and playing like this to have, okay, now you're gonna have a
22:52guy go to from 25 minutes to 10 minutes for three weeks. Like, are you damaging the long-term
23:02to satisfy or even not even satisfy in hopes of satisfying short-term
23:10tree that says vets on the team, decide if Jimmy starts simple. So is that, that's a,
23:14is that like a, that's a, that's a bam, Tyler Duncan, Kevin love. Hey, cool. Yeah. But
23:28majority rules or has to be unanimous.
23:33Oh, I would, I would, I would say this. I wouldn't put the players in that position.
23:39Hmm. Don't like if, if, if I'm the organization, I go chit chat with them. If I'm Pat Riley,
23:47I go chit chat with them anonymous, anonymously. Right. But I don't do it that way. So that what
23:56ends up happening is, Oh, you voted no. Right. Right. And so I would kind of do it that way.
24:04And I would kind of say, I would kind of, and if you're Pat Riley, you got enough cachet to say
24:11the decision has been made to do this. I think Pat Riley just rolls up to big face coffee this week.
24:19That would be funny. I get a scone.
24:24Here's a, this was a spo this week on, uh, what he's heard about the Jimmy workouts.
24:28Have you heard anything back from Octavio as far as how things are going with him,
24:31staying behind and doing that work? What are you saying? I'm not going to give you anything.
24:36Of course I've talked to him. I'm very close to coach. Oh, you guys. I mean,
24:40you always talk about when players stay behind, you check in and you talk to them.
24:43So I'm just going to talk to him, but, uh, that's between me and coach O with all due respect.
24:50No, it's not. All you had to say was mind your business, stay in your lane,
24:56right? That's the same thing. Hey, when you hit it with all due respect, strap in.
25:06We're coming for a bumpy landing because here it comes.