چیف میڈیکل آفیسر سرینگر ڈاکٹر طاہر سجاد نے کہا کہ بغیر رجسٹریشن کے کوئی بھی سیمپل کو کلکشن سنٹر پر حاصل نہیں کیا جاسکتا۔
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00:00Recently, the state health agency has suspended the Ayushman Bharat scheme for the five hospitals
00:12in Jammu and Kashmir.
00:14And the malnutrition hospitals have also been given a penalty.
00:19The state health agency is working on its own, but on the other hand, the Directorate
00:26of Health Services is also doing its job better.
00:32With us right now is the CM of Srinagar, Dr. Tahir Sajjad.
00:37I welcome you to ETV Bharat.
00:39What did you find and what was the main reason that the Ayushman Bharat scheme was suspended?
00:44See, we have a cell, which is related to the Golden Card.
00:49Their job is that they are going to the field, different hospitals and institutions.
00:54Their job is that they check that this scheme of the Golden Card is implemented on the ground
01:02and it is fully operational.
01:04People do not have any problem in this or there is no issue of payment.
01:08There is no extortion.
01:10They do not forcefully take money from them.
01:12Then they report it to us and the SHA officers.
01:16Then we also recommend action and the SHA comes and takes action against the violators.
01:23It is related to the patients.
01:25It is related to whether the patients have been denied the Golden Card services or not.
01:30Or they have been admitted somewhere, but some money has been taken from them,
01:35which is very illegal.
01:37You cannot take money if you have admitted a patient for a surgery.
01:42After that, you cannot take money from them for one reason or another.
01:47You cannot take money from them for one reason or another.
01:50That is why we impose a penalty on them.
01:54The second time, the second penalty.
01:56The third time, the third penalty.
01:58Later, the SHA, the monitoring cell of the state,
02:01they do monitor and those who like the rules, they impose the penalty on them.
02:07Because these two hospitals have come first.
02:11Is there any other hospital that is being looked at,
02:14which does such work that they take money instead of the Ayushman Bharat scheme?
02:20Yes, there are many private institutions that are under the radar of the SHA.
02:26And our field agencies related to the Golden Card,
02:31which monitor them constantly.
02:34So we are going and working through it.
02:36Let's see if there is any mistake somewhere.
02:38The common people or people do not have any problem.
02:41Do not take money from them.
02:43Or do not deny them.
02:45Just make an excuse or make another excuse.
02:47We are seeing that in many hospitals that have been brought under the Ayushman Bharat scheme,
02:52many patients deny it in terms of treatment.
02:57But the common patients who go there, they do not know.
03:00They are saying that it will cost Rs. 20,000 in a particular operation,
03:04but we will take Rs. 3,000 or Rs. 4,000 or Rs. 7,000 from you.
03:07So what should a common person see when they use the Golden Card in these famous hospitals?
03:12Basically, the patient who is under the Golden Card,
03:17should get the entitlement.
03:19If he gets a denial,
03:21there is a banner in every hospital,
03:24which has the number of the helpline.
03:26Just he has to dial that.
03:27He has to call.
03:28So the concerned officials will call him back in five minutes.
03:32If he has any problem.
03:34So you should call on time and inform the concerned hospital.
03:37Absolutely.
03:38Even after that, God forbid, if a patient has been admitted,
03:42they have taken money from him.
03:43A few days later, our teams go and check the register.
03:47They cross-check and dial the patient's phone.
03:50They find his address.
03:51They ask him,
03:52did you take any money from you or did you deny it?
03:55Then naturally, we write against that hospital,
03:59that you took this, you took the reasoning,
04:01why did you take money from him?
04:02Why did you deny him?
04:03There are many labs where we do tests.
04:06But they give the price in the test.
04:09And it is being seen there that the trained staff are not there.
04:12So what department is working in that regard?
04:15Basically, the rate fixation committee recently,
04:19the government has signed a contract.
04:23In which different higher officials have been kept by the government.
04:26They are working on it.
04:27And within a period of one month,
04:29within a month, they will do a rate fixation.
04:32Whatever private tests they have.
04:34Because you have also visited many labs recently.
04:37So what did you find there?
04:39Yes.
04:40Often it is seen that the labs are operating.
04:44But somewhere there is a mistake that the concerned registered staff,
04:49he or she is absent.
04:51And somewhere there is an unauthorized personnel.
04:55So we give them a warning.
04:57This should not happen.
04:58Because we are dealing with the health of the general public.
05:01So we ask the lab owner,
05:04that your authorized personnel,
05:06medical staff,
05:07he should be present and well-uniformed.
05:10And they should have a display.
05:12Your registration, it should be well conspicuous.
05:15You have to put up a board.
05:16Why is our registration like this?
05:18This is the list of our staff members.
05:20This should be there.
05:21Mr. Tahir, we are also seeing that
05:23there are more trainees in most of the labs.
05:25Those who come, we test them.
05:28How much is this offense?
05:29This is a grievous offense.
05:31Because the trainee,
05:32they cannot put him for collection of samples anywhere.
05:35They can't do it.
05:36Whenever there is any such complaint,
05:39our team goes immediately.
05:41DHO madam, concerned, ZMO, CHO.
05:43We send them on spot.
05:44And we take a dangerous spot.
05:46Another problem has arisen here,
05:48of collection centers.
05:50A particular lab runs in Lal Chowk.
05:53Samples are collected for Eid or Dharam.
05:56So this issue has also arisen.
05:58So, is there a framework?
06:01Is it necessary to register them
06:03as lab registrations are necessary?
06:05Absolutely.
06:06The collection centers have a separate registration.
06:10No lab can authorize a person
06:13unless they get registered
06:15with the District Registering Authority,
06:17i.e. DRA,
06:18which is the Chief Medical Officer.
06:20A collection center may belong to any lab,
06:22but it has to have a separate registration.
06:24It has to be done in your office?
06:26Absolutely.
06:27Will there be a message for people?
06:29The message for people will be
06:31that wherever they go,
06:33to any diagnostic center,
06:35there is a citizen charter.
06:38What is the rate of this thing?
06:40Which doctor practices it?
06:43Which doctor is doing your ultrasound?
06:46What is the personnel of the lab?
06:48What is its registration number?
06:50They have to see these things.
06:52It is their duty.
06:53Dr. Tahir Sajjad,
06:55you talked to us from outside
06:57and gave us your valuable time.
06:59Thank you very much.