👉 Boicot, piedrazos y hasta un arma de fuego en un enfrentamiento entre supuestas facciones de la UOCRA. Habló Fabiola García.
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00:00with Fabiola García, who knows a lot about this because she has lived it in her own flesh. Fabiola, how are you?
00:08Hello, well, it is not the first time that the UOCRA, an internal one, ends in this way.
00:13Your relationship with Pata Medina, your children, your people.
00:19We called you early asking if you had anything to do with all this and you told me no.
00:25Of course.
00:27Very good.
00:34Hello.
00:36Come closer to the phone so we can hear you better, please, thank you.
00:39Well, I'm going to use the air to say a few things.
00:44The cause of my husband and all my family
00:49is in the Supreme Court.
00:52They annulled him, they gave him the annulment on Thursday,
00:57when he was brought to trial for lack of evidence.
01:03What are you talking about, Fabiola? I'm sorry, I didn't hear you at the beginning.
01:07I can't hear you, I'm sorry, I can't hear anything.
01:13Let's try to get back in touch with Fabiola so we can talk, because if not...
01:17There is a son of a bitch.
01:21I can't hear you, that's why I don't know what you're saying.
01:25Hello, can you hear me?
01:27Now I can hear you.
01:29Tell me what you want to say.
01:31I'm sorry, because they never give me the opportunity.
01:36In 2017, when we were arrested, the court, the famous Gestapo,
01:43or Gestapro, as they want to call it,
01:45with members of the AFI, with the former minister of labor of the province of Villegas,
01:51with Vidal, with the former mayor of the city of La Plata,
01:55businessmen from the city of La Plata, developers,
01:59who my husband didn't even know, and neither did they personally,
02:03they took us all to jail.
02:05It was false police, because, well, they made a Turkish novel, let's say,
02:09in all the media of this.
02:11But nothing could be proven.
02:13This was appealed to Cassation, by the prosecutor,
02:17when he gave the annulment.
02:19Cassation gave us the annulment again.
02:23They appealed again to the prosecutor of Cassation, to the Supreme Court,
02:27no, to Cassation, sorry.
02:29Fabiola, don't take it the wrong way.
02:31Fabiola, I interrupt you with a little thing.
02:33I know this is important to you,
02:35but we want to talk, with all due respect,
02:37I tell you, about what is happening today.
02:39About what is happening today.
02:41Do you have anything to do with it, or do you have nothing to do with it?
02:43This is what you are talking about, about the persecution,
02:45that there may be children in schools,
02:47well, the developers of La Plata
02:49were following me with the Electrosur company,
02:51from the app,
02:53surrounded by politicians from the city of Ensenada,
02:55the mayor Mario Seco.
02:57Do you know what's going on, Fabiola?
02:59Excuse me.
03:01I understand that you come from a long-term situation,
03:03and this is a fact.
03:05But they are talking about us,
03:07about the presence of the Pata Medina in each case.
03:09No, that's why I...
03:11That's why I'm asking you, please,
03:13if you have anything to do with this.
03:15At the national level, it is Gerardo Martínez, not the Pata Medina.
03:17That's why, that's why.
03:19The Pata Medina came,
03:21I declare it to you, innocent of all instances.
03:23And in the Supreme Court,
03:25they are with an extraordinary complaint,
03:27that instead of entering 10 sheets,
03:29they gave 8 sheets.
03:31Perfect.
03:33So they have nothing to do with it.
03:36Fabiola, what are you looking at?
03:38They keep talking about the Pata Medina having the Ferrari,
03:40and the owner of the Ferrari is Horacio Holmes,
03:42the father of Camila Holmes.
03:44No, but I don't know what you're talking about,
03:46because we're not dealing with that topic.
03:48I ask you again, for the umpteenth time.
03:50Because all the channels are talking again.
03:52The Barrabas are following us.
03:54We are giving you the opportunity.
03:56About today, do you have anything to do with it,
03:58or do you have nothing to do with it?
04:00Nothing to do with it.
04:02Perfect, perfect.
04:04Nobody is talking about the Pata Medina.
04:06Excuse me, Fabiola, wait.
04:08We are not talking about you at any time.
04:10Because they talk a lot about the Pata Medina
04:12in all the channels,
04:14and it's because they have the opportunity
04:16to have a microphone.
04:18Fabiola, we've been on the show for 53 minutes,
04:20the first time that the Pata Medina is mentioned
04:22is in your mouth, just now.
04:24I'm looking at the news,
04:26from America 24, that I read in the morning,
04:28and chronicles.
04:30Well, that's why we called you to ask you.
04:32Fabiola Fito Baque,
04:34to be a little clearer.
04:36Here, we called you
04:38precisely
04:40to inform you
04:42that the Pata Medina has nothing to do
04:44with this.
04:46We call you for that,
04:48the rest of the channels...
04:50Let me finish on this, Fabiola.
04:52I want to say
04:54why you are also talking
04:56about what you are talking about,
04:58so that it is understood,
05:00we call you
05:02to clarify
05:04your position,
05:06that the Pata Medina has nothing to do with this.
05:08The Pata Medina is from La Plata,
05:10this is from another channel,
05:12from Berazategui...
05:14Can I say something?
05:16Let me finish on this.
05:18I want to finish this.
05:20On the other hand,
05:22the Pata Medina was involved
05:24and Fabiola,
05:26in an armed cause,
05:28there were chambers
05:30where the businessmen
05:32were saying that they were going to start
05:34a case against the Pata Medina and the woman...
05:36That's why she talks about the Gestapo.
05:38Or the Gestapo,
05:40because it was in Vidal's government.
05:42And she, what she says,
05:44and she is right,
05:46that it was the Pata Medina and her,
05:48in the first instance,
05:50they appealed to the chamber,
05:52they were prosecuted,
05:54and now the prosecutor continues
05:56to the prosecutor's office,
05:58who is from the same government
06:00that had made the hidden chamber,
06:02Mr. Conte Gran,
06:04who appealed
06:06now to the court of the nation
06:08and that's what she wanted to clarify.
06:10Excellent.
06:12With extraordinary resources.
06:14Yes, yes.
06:16Fabiola,
06:18is it clear to you, Fabiola,
06:20that we are not accusing you?
06:22No, I just understand that they always make a parallelism.
06:24We don't.
06:26We don't.
06:28We don't here, Fabiola.
06:30I can explain briefly.
06:32Yes, whatever you want.
06:34My husband,
06:36when he was working
06:38democratically for the workers
06:40and not under the figure of coercion,
06:44he had a dialogue table
06:46where he spoke with multinationals
06:48and businessmen,
06:50agreements were signed that are approved
06:52by the Ministry of Labor of the province.
06:54There were no murders,
06:56they were not stabbing each other,
06:58they were not confronting
07:00workers against workers
07:02and spilling blood.
07:06And if the street was cut,
07:08it was because there was no physical space
07:10to answer a thousand people
07:12who were waiting for a job.
07:14It was not because the PATA wanted to cut it.
07:16No, very good.
07:18It depended on the nation
07:20I want to clarify that.
07:22Perfectly clarified.
07:24Fabiola García,
07:26nothing has to do with the historical dispute.
07:28And I am very sorry that for a job
07:30they end up that way.
07:32Please.
07:34I say that nothing has to do
07:36because there was a historical dispute
07:38between the Medina and the Tobar in La Plata.
07:40No, no, nothing to do.
07:42Tobar is a...
07:44No, but Fabiola,
07:46I thank you, Fabiola.
07:48No, Clará,
07:50I am not the Secretary General of anything.
07:52No, no, it's okay,
07:54but the shots in La Plata ended up against the Tobar.
07:56And you say that to my husband?
07:58Excuse me.
08:00With a gun in his hand?
08:02We saw how they ran them.
08:04To my husband?
08:06Juan Pablo Pata Medina?
08:08Sure, at the time he had to declare
08:10there was a group of people who went to attack him.
08:12Show me a video,
08:14because I'm going to take you to justice.
08:16You're threatening me?
08:18With drugs and a gun.
08:20Fabiola...
08:22But you're not listening well, I think.
08:24You have made a phone call
08:26to your husband
08:28with an electronic bracelet
08:30because he had gone to declare
08:32and was attacked.
08:34That didn't happen?
08:36When he left the clinic.
08:38No, my husband had a stroke
08:40and went to the appointment with the neurologist
08:42with the permission of the judge.
08:44So what are we talking about?
08:46I'm talking about that, ma'am.
08:48Calm down.
08:50Clarify things,
08:52because it looks like you're taking care of the two madwomen.
08:54You have to listen to what we're saying.
08:56We're saying that historically...
08:58Is the lawyer there?
09:00Historically, Fabiola,
09:02you have historically embarrassed
09:04the shots in the street
09:06in La Plata.
09:08Cut the communication, please.
09:10My husband is going to go to justice
09:12for taking a picture with a gun.
09:14Who said your husband was with a gun, ma'am?
09:16You're not listening well.
09:18Cut the communication, please.
09:20I'm answering for Juan Pablo Pata Medina,
09:22not for the rest.
09:24She's talking about something else
09:26that we're not saying, unfortunately.
09:28The lawyer is there.
09:30Decide the trial of Leal Tobar
09:32in La Casa Positiva
09:34that threatened the judge with long guns
09:36and police vests.
09:38Fabiola, I'm going to make you
09:41hear what you're not listening to.
09:43There's a judge like Crepla
09:45who sleeps the case.
09:47Fabiola, the lawyer.
09:49Fabiola, the lawyer.
09:51I'll make it public.
09:53You talk alone
09:55and you don't listen.
09:57It always happens.
09:59Call the lawyer and he'll tell you about the hearing.
10:01I'll send you the entire hearing.
10:03We can close the case now.
10:05Thank you for the minutes.
10:07Thank you, good evening.
10:09Let's see, what I was trying to say is that historically in the UOCRA, things are happening that,
10:17look at the context, how it is harmed, in addition to the workers.
10:21Historically in La Plata, for several years, there is a very strong internal,
10:26of which Medina participates, and the other sector, which is that of the Tobar, the Tobar brothers.
10:33We are talking about that, no one said that Pata Medina carried a gun,
10:36the lady did not hear well, but the lady has a lot of information,
10:40that every time she speaks, she wants to give it all together, and it is not understood,
10:45and what we try to do is that it is understood.
10:47No one spoke of Pata Medina with a gun, she was arrested.
10:51This is a new chapter, and that is why she called for clarification.
10:53To clarify that it was not related.
10:55That Pata Medina had nothing to do with it.
10:56Exactly.
10:57This is a new instance, plus a new chapter of confrontation of factions within the UOCRA,
11:03of a different nature than that of La Plata.
11:05Totally.
11:06This is another delegation, another area.
11:08But also with similarities.
11:09Yes.
11:10With violent similarities.
11:11With the same method, where there is a sector ...
11:13And with the workers as a bootleg, because this is for jobs, because people want to work,
11:18and then here, in a very mannered way, some exhibit,
11:21look at the jobs, I handle them, then the ones from the other sector come,
11:25in the other they put you on the flag to say, because anyone who goes to a large work,
11:29now we go out here around, any well building,
11:32will find that the first thing they do is put the flag of the union,
11:35which is very good, guys, it's very good.
11:37They are the representation of what has to do with something organized, an organized job.
11:42Now, perfect, that, to protect the rights of the workers,
11:45that they fulfill the working day, that they have their work elements,
11:48the footwear that corresponds, that they pay them in rule, that they pay them in white,
11:52that they have their social work, for that it is perfect.
11:54Now, these situations are of another order, right?
11:56Of course.
11:57Because one is recognized, but not legitimized by the people,
11:59another that is self-perceived, delegated without being and without any legality.
12:03Meanwhile, I have a presentation in the Ministry of Justice,
12:07which still does not give them the approval of anything,
12:09and in the middle, those on one side and those on the other,
12:11those of a bar of a club and those of the other,
12:13and in the middle, they use as a battlefield,
12:15because that was a neighborhood of people,
12:17that if it had happened in November, instead of the date we are in,
12:20there are, I don't know, hundreds of little ones,
12:23with white uniforms, going to school.
12:25A disaster.
12:26The UOCRA, the General Secretariat, has also said goodbye,
12:29which rejected all this type of violence,
12:32but unfortunately it affects them,
12:34because they are people whose representation is adduced.