This lecture examines the strategies for overcoming negative emotions through two main theories: the theory of stimulus and the theory of opposites. The speaker discusses how external factors can influence emotional well-being, emphasizing the need to identify and eliminate negative stimuli from one's environment. Personal anecdotes illustrate the impact of unsupportive relationships on issues like depression and social anxiety.
Transitioning to the theory of opposites, the speaker advocates for actions that counteract past negative experiences, promoting growth and independence. Practical strategies for applying these theories are offered, encouraging listeners to assess their influences and reclaim their emotional power. The lecture concludes with an empowering message about the journey of emotional healing, highlighting the importance of self-awareness and deliberate actions for personal growth.
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Transitioning to the theory of opposites, the speaker advocates for actions that counteract past negative experiences, promoting growth and independence. Practical strategies for applying these theories are offered, encouraging listeners to assess their influences and reclaim their emotional power. The lecture concludes with an empowering message about the journey of emotional healing, highlighting the importance of self-awareness and deliberate actions for personal growth.
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00:00So, somebody asked me the other day how to overcome negative emotions, right, so how
00:09to overcome negative emotions.
00:13So I work myself, obviously I don't know for you, this is just a general way that I work
00:19with it in my amateurish fashion.
00:22So the way that I work with it is the theory of stimulus and the theory of opposites.
00:27It's a theory of stimulus and the theory of opposites.
00:31So if somebody says I have a pain in my foot and you have a nail in your foot, how do I
00:39stop the pain of my foot?
00:42How do I stop the pain in my foot?
00:43Well, you have to remove the nail and then you get it patched up and whatever, right,
00:47and then it will ease over time.
00:49So that's the stimulus situation.
00:51Also, you know, these stupid jokes I remember from when I was a kid, one of them was, doctor,
00:57I have a pain in my eye every time I drink coffee.
01:00And he says, have you tried taking the spoon out?
01:03And I remember finding delight in that joke and trying to figure out when I had a cup
01:07of tea, how could the spoon end up in your eye?
01:10I remember doing that when I was like five or six.
01:12So that's, doctor, there's this mysterious thing that happens, you see, that I get a
01:17pain in my eye when I drink coffee and you think, oh, that's some heating of the optic,
01:23like whatever you come up with.
01:24And then it's like something is prosaic, don't take the spoon out first, right, and you won't
01:28get the spoon in your eye, right?
01:31So that's the theory of stimulus.
01:34So if, for instance, you suffer from depression or low self-esteem, as they call it, or being
01:41down on yourself or feeling negative about yourself, right, then the question of stimulus
01:47is, okay, are there people in your environment who put you down, right?
01:53I don't mean to get overly complicated about these things, but the theory of stimulus is
01:58the easiest one to approach.
02:01It's the easiest one to approach.
02:04So when I was a kid, I'd have a bruise and I wouldn't remember how I got it.
02:10And then it pushed my thumb into the bruise, and then lo and behold, it would stimulate
02:14the memory of how I got it.
02:15Oh, yeah, I remember I ran into the side of the table or something like that, right?
02:21So that's stimulus.
02:24So when I was in my early teens, my legs were very itchy and I couldn't find comfortable
02:30pants because I'd just be itchy all the time.
02:33And it turns out that I've always had sort of dry skin, I have to use a lot of moisturizer
02:37and so on.
02:38So it turns out that I just, the stimulus was my skin was dry, it made it itchy.
02:43And once I started applying moisture to the skin, then everything was fine, right?
02:50So that's the theory of stimulus.
02:52As I've talked about, APD, right, it's SAD, actually APD, it's Social Anxiety Disorder,
02:59you're actually Asshole Proximity Disorder, APD, like, if you feel nervous in social situations,
03:07do you have people around you who make fun of you, mock you, humiliate you, bully you,
03:13ignore you, put you down, and so on, denigrate you, well, then it's not some mysterious Social
03:19Anxiety Disorder, it's that you're surrounded by people who are putting you down.
03:25So the stimulus has not been removed, right?
03:28The stimulus has not been removed.
03:31So the first thing I do is look at, or the first thing I would do if I were in your shoes,
03:36is to look at the stimulus theory.
03:39I mean, if you hear a loud noise in your ears, a loud high-pitched noise in your ears, and
03:46it turns out that there's a cloud of mosquitoes around you, that's good, because there's external,
03:51right, stimuli, or there are these people who play music that only teenagers can hear
03:57because of their sensitive hearing, and so on.
04:00Whereas if you hear this high-pitched whining, and there's nothing, no external stimuli,
04:04you might have tinnitus or something like that, which is pretty unsolvable, at least
04:09for the most part.
04:11So it's important.
04:13Look for the stimulus.
04:15If the stimulus is continuing, right, if the stimulus is continuing, then the pain will
04:22not subside, right?
04:25If you have a urinary tract infection, it's uncomfortable, and as long as you don't get
04:30it dealt with, then it's probably going to get more uncomfortable, right?
04:34So stimulus, the response.
04:35If your teeth hurts, go see the dentist, and they'll fix it, hopefully, or they'll do something
04:40about it, right?
04:41So the stimulus theory is the reason, like the first place to look at negative emotions
04:46is, are there people who are provoking negative emotions in you, in the present, right?
04:54Are they continually gouging the wound?
04:56Are they continually punching the bruise, and so on, right?
05:00So that's the first thing to do, is say, oh, you know, I'm kind of depressed.
05:04Okay, well, are there people around you who belittle your identity, your dreams, your
05:08preferences, your wishes, your hopes, your goals, whatever, right?
05:12Do they care about you?
05:13Do they really, are they invested in helping you bring a happy blah, blah, blah life, right?
05:19So these are really important questions.
05:20It's really, really important questions.
05:24First thing, look for the stimulus, and you have to accept the feelings or remove the
05:31stimulus, right?
05:33So a lot of people around you, if they're jerks, will say, not, you have low self-esteem
05:42because we don't respect you.
05:44They'll say, we don't respect you because you have low self-esteem, right?
05:50So I remember there were people in my life when I was in my early teens, there were people
05:58in my life who made fun of me when I liked a girl, right?
06:05And they would even sabotage me.
06:07I've sort of talked about this before, so we don't really have to get into specifics,
06:11but they would sabotage me when I was trying to ask out a girl.
06:15They would mock my preferences and blah, blah, blah, right?
06:18So I was nervous to ask girls around because there were people around me who would mock
06:23me and sabotage me, right?
06:25I mean, that's, you understand, right?
06:27So in order to gain confidence with girls, what did I have to do?
06:32Well, I had to stop asking girls out with those, quote, friends and family members around
06:38me.
06:40When it came to doing this show, when it came to doing this show, I finally felt like I
06:47was, my potential was unleashed and I could do wonderful things in the realm of philosophy
06:51because I no longer had gatekeepers between me and the audience.
06:55I didn't need to please anybody other than truth, reason, virtue, and my own conscience,
06:59which is a pretty good combo.
07:01So I was very excited and enthusiastic about doing this show.
07:07And my friends and my family didn't really care.
07:10They didn't think, they thought it was just some odd hobby, it wouldn't go anywhere, blah,
07:13blah, blah.
07:14Okay, well, that's, that's fine.
07:15So then I just had to, in order to do this show, I had to break away from those relationships.
07:22I mean, when I was dating a woman and I started to become really successful as an entrepreneur,
07:29she did not show any particular faith and in fact was just kind of negative about it.
07:36And so then you have a choice, right?
07:37You can please the losers or you can succeed, right?
07:40You can please the skeptical and diminish your ambitions and be cynical about yourself
07:45and have a critical observing ego that puts yourself down in order to appease the losers
07:51and the bullies and the whiners and the negative and the depressed and the cynical, like surrounded
07:57by these, these people that just put everything down and everything's negative and everybody's,
08:03you know, like a friend of mine, when we were in Vegas, you know, there was this guy who
08:08was like, Hollywood pens for Hollywood people.
08:11He was selling, you know, some poor guy, you know, probably coming back from drug addiction,
08:14selling pens, Hollywood pens for Hollywood people.
08:16And he was like, plastic pens for plastic people, plastic pens for plastic people.
08:21Like just negative and cynical and you know, that REM stuff, shiny, happy people holding
08:26hands, right?
08:27Just negative and cynical.
08:28And right.
08:29So you can absorb and amplify the beauty of life, the virtues of life, the love, the glory,
08:37the, you know, or you can just be a cynical and negative and you know, the cynic, what
08:43is he?
08:44The person who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
08:47And cynicism was an absolute cancer in the minds.
08:50I mean, I wrote a whole novel based on this, right?
08:53Entertainment, right?
08:55And cynicism was a cancer in the minds of my friends as a teenager.
09:00It was just, it was absolutely toxic, a toxic sludge, toxic sludge.
09:05The bitterly disappointed people who just aimed low for everything, just aimed low for
09:10everything.
09:11I mean, you know, the amount of derision they would pour on people who were like, oh, dancing
09:17in the streets.
09:18Yeah, that's Mick Jagger's song, you know?
09:21And it's like, no, no, no, that was originally, I don't know who it was, the Shirelles or
09:24something like that.
09:25But if you thought that the new song was, if you thought that the cover song was from
09:31a band, like was from the band that did it rather than knowing the original, then, you
09:36know, God help you, God, ever loving God help you.
09:40The devil would fear to tread in those scolding lakes of cynicism.
09:44So yeah, if you have people who don't have any particular ambitions, who are cynical
09:48about everything, who are negative, who are losers, who are addicts, you can please them
09:53or you can get out, right?
09:57You can't do both.
09:58And this is where people get screwed up, right, as they hang on to boat anchors dragging them
10:05down rather than release and make a strike for the surface and the skies and the stars,
10:09in fact.
10:10So when I first started writing novels and poems, right, I mean, one of my friends was
10:17good.
10:18I still remember he said, I'm awed, cowed, bowed, they're fantastic, right?
10:22And I had other friends and family members.
10:25My mother read my work and was helpful with it, which was good, but her father was a writer
10:29and there was lots of good stuff going on there.
10:31So but yeah, other than one friend who commented and my mother, honestly, nobody cared.
10:39Now, obviously, I think I'm a great writer and or at least the stories that I put out
10:43are very good and meaningful.
10:44So I'm pleased to have done what I did.
10:46I obviously think my show is very important and powerful and good.
10:50And I'm very happy and pleased and satisfied at having avoided the depression of having
10:56pleased the losers and given up on my dreams.
10:59Having pleased the losers and the cynics, right?
11:00Because if you have losers and cynics in your life, then the moment you try and aim for
11:06and reach for something better and higher and more noble, I mean, they'll just attack
11:10you like a bunch of jackals.
11:11Like really, it's just, it's like blood in the water, shock, doll-eyed, feeding frenzy,
11:17like everything turns red and you bleed out.
11:20They will just savage your ambitions.
11:23Like if I said to my cynical friends as a teenager that I want to create something wonderful
11:27and beautiful and moral and powerful in the world, they would have been like, yeah, it's
11:31a nice way of talking about how you just want to be famous so people can stroke your ego,
11:36right?
11:37They would just diminish it like in that everything's psychological, everyone's lying, all higher
11:41motives are not only suspect, but false.
11:45And they're just being honest and authentic by not having any higher values because all
11:49higher values are a pretense and ego stroking and vanity and you name it, right?
11:56It's just terrible.
11:58So yeah, if you feel unattractive, does everyone around you think that you're unattractive?
12:07If you feel like your ambitions are foolish, do you have people around you who don't view
12:11either their own or your ambitions as foolish?
12:13Or does everybody just mock and put you down?
12:16Most people fail at life.
12:17I mean, let's just be frank, right?
12:19Statistically, right?
12:20It can get kind of messed up because when you start to succeed, you tend to be surrounded
12:25by people who are succeeding, right?
12:29When I started to succeed, then the losers and the failures and the cynics were replaced
12:36by people who worked and achieved and succeeded, right?
12:40That's good, right?
12:41That's what you want.
12:42And now, of course, I don't have any losers or cynics or failures or whatever.
12:46And this doesn't mean, of course, this doesn't mean that I don't have people in my life who
12:51failed.
12:52Sure.
12:53I mean, I failed and so on.
12:54And still, I mean, I view every show as somewhat of a failure because I want to do it even
12:58better next time.
12:59Like I want to improve and do it even better.
13:03But I have people who keep trying and people who don't view failure as damning.
13:09But failure is just, well, you know, you try it and try it again, right?
13:11Try it again.
13:13So this sort of acid undermining of the foundations of human happiness and achievement, I just
13:19don't have.
13:20But, of course, people view it as true because if you are surrounded by losers and cynics
13:26and failures, then it's very easy for you to not be around anyone else.
13:30Obviously, you generally won't be around anyone else.
13:34And so, you don't even see the opposite viewpoint and argument.
13:38And then you just snipe.
13:40You just snipe at people, right?
13:41They all just snipe at people.
13:44You know, people who've, I mean, I had a friend who went through a phase where when a band
13:50he liked became very successful, like when The Cure had Lovecats, right?
13:56So it would be like, oh, they've just sold out, man.
13:58They just sold out, right?
13:59And then he got even more cynical and he'd say like, yeah, all the people who are complaining
14:03about bands selling out never got off at a good price for anything in their life, right?
14:07So it's just, yeah, it's hollow-eyed and empty.
14:09So the proximity theory is you have negative feelings because you are reacting naturally,
14:15normally, and healthfully to negative stimuli around you, right?
14:19I mean, if you step on a nail, you want your foot to hurt because if you step on a nail
14:24and your foot doesn't hurt, you've got serious nerve damage, right?
14:27Like you've got a serious problem and you just keep squishing the nail into your flesh
14:31and bones and that's just wretched and terrible, right?
14:33So you want that negative stimuli, but that negative stimuli is in order to get you to
14:41change your environment so that you're not receiving that negative stimuli anymore, right?
14:45Does that make sense?
14:46So that's a, right?
14:47So that's one thing.
14:48Look at your environment and remove the negative stimuli and see how you're doing.
14:52That's one thing.
14:53Now, the second thing is the opposite theory.
14:55So the opposite theory is in order to minimize or reverse the negative feelings, then what
15:05you have to do is the opposite.
15:07So I'll give you an example.
15:09So if you're in jail, you are not allowed to go out, right?
15:15If you're in jail, you're not allowed to go out.
15:17That's kind of the definition, right?
15:19You're not in jail, then you're not allowed to go out.
15:23So once you get out of jail, how do you really know that you're out of jail?
15:27Well, you go out.
15:29You go out.
15:30You enjoy the wind on your face.
15:31You enjoy reading a book in the park.
15:32You enjoy strolling around, right?
15:34So you go out.
15:35Now, you could theoretically, of course, after you get out of jail, build a replica of the
15:39jail in your bedroom and never go out, right?
15:42And that would be like, okay, you're not out of jail.
15:44So you have to do the opposite, right?
15:46You have to do the opposite so that your body knows and your mind knows and your unconscious
15:51knows that you're out and you're free.
15:55So for instance, when I was a kid, I was not allowed to tell the truth and I was not allowed
16:01to upset people.
16:03So how do I know, how do I tell myself or how do I really program my unconscious to
16:06know that my childhood is over?
16:08Well, I tell the truth and I reveal facts.
16:14And if it upsets people, that's their business.
16:16Now, when I told the truth and my mom would get mad or other family members would get
16:20mad, I was under their power, right?
16:22I was under their power.
16:24And so I suffered the blowback, right?
16:27And so I couldn't tell the truth, right?
16:29Telling the truth to my mother, which I tried a number of times over the course of my childhood
16:32and teens and twenties and so on, until I just realized that there was no telling the
16:37truth to someone like that.
16:39So as a child, I couldn't tell the truth.
16:43And so as long as I continue to be afraid to tell the truth, my childhood is still winning.
16:48My childhood is still winning.
16:50And so I have to tell the truth.
16:52And if people get upset, that's on them.
16:54And I'm fine.
16:55Because that's because my mother and other people, teachers or whatever, they don't have
16:59power over me anymore.
17:01And the power of teachers is terrifying.
17:02I mean, I'm not just talking about like, they could give you lines or they could cane you
17:06as happened to me in boarding school.
17:08But the power of teachers is terrifying when I was a kid because they could hold you back
17:11a year, like they could literally take a year of your life away from you so that you graduate
17:16at 19 instead of 18.
17:18And you're the oldest kid, and you're kind of known as the dunce.
17:21And like, it's just terrible.
17:22Like, the power that they had was absolutely terrifying.
17:26So you had to please them.
17:28So now I have to please virtue, truth, reality, and my conscience, and those I love.
17:33I have to please them.
17:34But I don't have to please a violent, abusive, destructive, cynical, nasty, hurtful, trawlish,
17:41vindictive people.
17:42I don't have to please them because they don't have power over me.
17:45Because I'm not a child.
17:46When I was a child, they had power over me.
17:48So I had to shut up and nod along.
17:50When I'm an adult, they don't have power over me.
17:52So I can speak the truth.
17:53So you have to do the opposite.
17:55If you're forced to stay in your jail cell, you have to leave your apartment.
17:58That's how you program your mind and body to know that you are not in the former situation.
18:06So whatever it was for you as a kid, right, let's say that you were ignored, right?
18:11You were neglected as a kid.
18:12Like, no, your parents didn't take interest in you, and you were kind of ignored, and
18:15so on.
18:16Well, how do you overcome that?
18:19Well, you have to go out and find some way to gain attention from people.
18:24And if people don't provide you attention, if they don't pay attention to you, if they
18:27kind of ignore you, they kind of ghost you, they don't write back or text back or call
18:32back or whatever, right, then you don't stay friends with them.
18:36Because you don't allow people to recreate in your adult life that which hurt you the
18:42most as a child.
18:43You just don't let it do it, right?
18:45So I was low priority to my family when I was a kid.
18:47And then when I was in my early 20s, I had someone in the family, extended family, who
18:54I would say, you want to get together on the weekend?
18:57Let's get together on the weekend.
18:58Let's do something.
18:59And he's like, well, I'll let you know maybe Friday.
19:01I'll let you know Friday.
19:02And you know that he's just looking for a better offer.
19:04Can he get a better offer?
19:05Can he find someone cooler or more fun to hang out with or whatever, right?
19:10So I just thought, I don't like feeling like somebody's fallback position, right?
19:14I don't want that.
19:15So I just stopped hanging out with him.
19:17And he's like, hey, man, how come we never hang out anymore?
19:19And I'm like, well, because you would only tell me Friday.
19:21Well, you know, I was busy and all, but he wouldn't say, you know what, that was kind
19:25of crappy.
19:26Obviously, I was kind of looking for something better.
19:28And that was, you know, that was not very nice to you.
19:30And I apologize.
19:31Okay, well, then we can think about it, right?
19:33So all of that stuff is you got to do the opposite thing, got to do the opposite thing.
19:40So in my childhood, rationality was punished, right?
19:45To just be rational was punished.
19:48And so as an adult, I'm going to be rational.
19:51When I was a child debating, which is the essence of conversation, right?
19:56I was talking with someone the other day and he said, well, my parents would get mad at
19:59me for backtalk, for talking back.
20:02And I'm like, but all conversation is talking back.
20:04Like you and I are talking back, right?
20:06You say something, I talk back.
20:07I say something, you talk back.
20:08Like all conversation is talking back, is backtalk.
20:11I mean, try having a conversation without responding to what someone's saying.
20:17Like that's not a thing, right?
20:18You can't really do that.
20:19So when I was a kid, you weren't allowed to debate.
20:23So what do I love doing as an adult?
20:25I love debating because that's the opposite, right?
20:28That's the opposite.
20:30When I was a kid, optimism was punished as naivete and cynicism was rewarded as bitter
20:36wisdom.
20:37So I enjoy being optimistic.
20:40When I was a child, love was not allowed.
20:44Lust was allowed, attachment, codependency, but not love.
20:49Because love is when you demand morality from yourself and from others, right?
20:53Like all women say they want a good man, all men say they want a good woman, but you actually
20:57have to be good to get those people.
21:00So love was not allowed, right?
21:04So if I were to say to my mother, what is it about you that I'm supposed to love?
21:08Or other people, right?
21:10What is it about you that I'm supposed to love?
21:12You would get attacked and punished.
21:13Love wasn't like having standards of love was absolutely punished and attacked.
21:17If you were to say to your teacher, what is it about you that I should respect?
21:21You know, you're not particularly knowledgeable, you're kind of petty, you're kind of punitive.
21:25Like what is it about you that I'm supposed to respect?
21:28Well, so love and respect and all of that.
21:30Virtue was not allowed because everybody would say, well, be honest, right?
21:34Be honest, you got to tell the truth, be honest.
21:37But if you would tell the truth about something that upset them, then it was bad that you
21:41told the truth because that was just being rude and insensitive and mean, right?
21:46So I mean, that's, you know, when you're in possession of information that people in power
21:51want, then virtue is a value.
21:54But then if you are saying things that they don't like or that upset them, then you're
21:59being rude and insensitive and mean and nasty and thoughtless and cruel.
22:04And like, it's just, I mean, it's so, so love was not allowed.
22:08Honesty was not allowed.
22:09Virtue was not allowed.
22:12And the only thing that was allowed was fear, subjugation, silence and conformity, right?
22:17That's all that was allowed.
22:19So as an adult, I don't want to have anything to do with that shitty stuff.
22:23Like I don't want to have any fucking thing to do with all of the things that were forced
22:27upon me as a child by petty vindictive bullshit authority.
22:30I just don't want to have anything to do with it.
22:32In fact, I have for many years, and now I have more principles, but for many years,
22:37I just guided myself by do the opposite of whatever was demanded as a child, and you're
22:44heading in the right direction.
22:45Whatever those assholes in charge made me do as a child, I'll simply do the opposite.
22:50Oh, so apparently philosophy is a bad thing.
22:52Okay.
22:53I'm going to pursue philosophy.
22:54Reasoning is a bad thing.
22:55Okay.
22:56Well, I'm just going to pursue reasoning.
22:58Debating is a bad thing.
22:59Okay.
23:00I'm going to learn how to debate, right?
23:01I mean, whatever a talkback is bad, okay, well, I'm going to be skeptical of and question
23:05authority because I needed to do the opposite so that I could be absolutely certain that
23:09my childhood was over.
23:11So yeah, when it comes to dealing with quote negative emotions, first of all, you need
23:16to, like if you're upset that your foot hurts, right, then you're in the wrong place.
23:22Your foot is supposed to hurt if you step on a nail so that you can get the nail out
23:25and you won't die from something, right?
23:28Infection or tetanus or whatever, right?
23:29So that's good.
23:31So how do you know even that they're negative emotions?
23:34If the negative emotions won't go away, first look at your environment.
23:38Are there things that are provoking those negative emotions?
23:40Number one, that's the theory of stimulus.
23:44And then the second is the theory of opposites.
23:46Are you still in the mental prison?
23:48Are you still continuing your childhood as if you weren't an adult?
23:53Because when you were a kid, the teachers had power over you.
23:56I mean, it still blows my mind that I can get into my car and drive places.
23:59Still blows my mind.
24:00I mean, it's incredible.
24:01What freedom, right?
24:03So are you still continuing the patterns of your childhood?
24:07And if you are continuing the patterns of your childhood, then the feelings of your
24:10childhood will not end.
24:13How could they?
24:14Because you are still acting as if the stimulus, right, the stimulus and opposite theories
24:19are complementary, right?
24:20They're two sides of the same coin.
24:22Because if you're still continuing your behavior, oh, my parents treated me as if I was unimportant,
24:27so I guess I'm not really that important, right?
24:29Oh, everyone thought I was unattractive, so I guess I'm just unattractive.
24:33Or people got mad at me when I spoke my mind, so I guess I just won't speak my mind, right?
24:38And so if you are acting as if the stimulus of your childhood was still present, then
24:44it is, all of those feelings are going to continue.
24:47And in fact, you might just promote other people to bully you so that you retain that
24:51sense of competence, at least at dealing with negative feelings.
24:55So yeah, think about this.
24:56Do an inventory.
24:57Do an inventory of the stimulus theory.
24:59Do an inventory of the opposite theory and see, right?
25:03Do you still have people in your life who are provoking negative feelings?
25:07And are you doing the opposite of that which you had to do as a child that provoked negative
25:10feelings?
25:11Personally, I can't guarantee anything, of course, but I'm pretty sure if you deal with
25:16those two things, then you are, in fact, doing well.
25:21And in my, again, admittedly amateur viewpoint, it is the best chance you have of overcoming
25:26those negative feelings.
25:27All right.
25:28I hope this was helpful.
25:29Thanks for the great questions.
25:30I guess I'll talk to everyone tomorrow night.
25:31Bye.