Gonzalo López, el único detenido en el caso del asesinato de Paloma y Josué, dos adolescentes de Florencio Varela, se ha negado a declarar. López fue extraditado desde Río Negro para la investigación. Se le vincula al caso debido a que posee un teléfono cuyo código IMEI coincide con el del móvil de Josué, uno de los jóvenes asesinados. A pesar de las especulaciones sobre una posible clonación o robo del teléfono, López no ha proporcionado ninguna explicación ante la fiscalía.
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00:00To update the case of Paloma and Josue, the case of the 14 and 16-year-old boys murdered in Florencio Varela.
00:08You are seeing the only detainee who has the case.
00:12Gonzalo López, 37 years old, was extradited from Rio Negro to Florencio Varela, where the investigation is being carried out.
00:22He was investigated today and refused to testify.
00:25Why was he detained? Because he had a phone whose base code, his email, his registration, coincides with that of Josue,
00:35the little boy murdered on January 30 in Florencio Varela.
00:39There is a whole chain of speculations around why this man has a cell phone whose number,
00:47so that it is understood, the registration number, not the phone number, coincides with that of Josue.
00:52There was talk of a possible cloning of the number.
00:55There was talk of a cell phone robbery that implied using the base code of Josue's phone to disguise another phone.
01:05And it was expected that this man, detained, I insist, in Rio Negro, because the phone was activated and the detectives of the Federal Police detected it,
01:14gave an explanation to the prosecutor, Darío Provisionato, who is now in charge of the case for the murder of Palome and Josue.
01:22But what happened today? He did not testify.
01:25Gonzalo López, you are seeing him in the audience, in this image, which was recorded earlier today, refused to testify.
01:36The logic was, well, I have a phone, I bought it in such and such place, they gave it to me, I know it was stolen,
01:42or they told me that it had a cloned code from another phone, to get rid of the center of the investigation,
01:50which is if that phone that this man was using, and the investigators themselves believe that it was not Josue's,
01:56but whose number coincides with that of the murdered boy,
02:00but it came into their hands on some way that may allow us to dilucidate what happened to these two teenagers,
02:07because for the murder itself, there is no one detained.
02:10How strange everything, right?
02:11It's just this man.
02:12How strange everything, I say, because, let's see, a phone or a phone number, let's talk on this side,
02:17a phone number, cloned or allegedly cloned, that appears in Rio Negro,
02:22an event that occurred in Florencio Varela.
02:25Remember the Logan case, the Logan case too,
02:28a lot of things appeared linked in the south of the country.
02:32In different places.
02:33In different places.
02:35Someone who refuses to testify in this case.
02:38Here I give you a piece of information that has to do with this activation of the cell phone,
02:42and with what this Mr. López said before, when he was arrested by the Federal Police,
02:47he said that he had this phone and that he had it repaired in August last year in a cell phone cave.
02:54This cell phone cave was called yesterday,
02:57and they brought, they brought some items to search.
03:01There are three computers, ten phones and three computer tools.
03:06The investigators want to know if this version he gave is true at the time.
03:11Well, yes, yes, he told the police when he was arrested, but he didn't tell the prosecutor.
03:14It's very strange.
03:15It's what has validity.
03:16Let's see, it doesn't close, because one can think, how does José's phone get to Rio Negro in such a short time?
03:21Exactly.
03:22Anyway, the crime was on December 30.
03:24If there was a robbery and it was sold, let's imagine.
03:27But what is strange to me is that he refuses to testify.
03:30Because there is a strategy.
03:32When at first it was just a mistake, look, I bought a cell phone.
03:35That was, I mean, something that can be explained quickly.
03:38One last thing, Ceci.
03:40And I'm linking everything we have to tell the information of this crime that is still unpunished.
03:45If you have the way to justify that the phone that the investigators detect
03:50coincides in the number of the carcass with that of José,
03:54well, you give the explanation quickly, they go to the cave where you bought it,
03:58and you are disconnected from the cause.
04:00Now, in front of the prosecutor, he doesn't repeat it.
04:02No, let's see, what ...
04:03Let's see, it can happen, but it's very strange anyway.
04:06It is that he can face a cause, right?
04:08For a matter that has to do with ...
04:10Or buy a stolen cell phone.
04:11Or answers, or ...
04:13Well, but this is a much more serious accusation.
04:15Of course.
04:16It's a double homicide.
04:17It doesn't close either for the lawyers, it doesn't close for the investigators.
04:20Why did he refuse to testify today?
04:22But what happens is that ...
04:24Let's see, now we would have to do the opposite.
04:27Let's suppose that this phone has not been cloned,
04:29but that it is the phone stolen from one of the victims.
04:33What do you do now?
04:35Beyond the finding that Cecilia told us in the place.
04:37Well, make the way.
04:38How does that phone get to the south of the country?
04:41From the south of Gran Buenos Aires.
04:43That is a task, although it is not easy,
04:45obviously with, beyond the statement of this man who refused today,
04:49with the cloner, or the owner of the cave of the phone.
04:53Yes, the people of the cave.
04:54That's why.
04:55How do you receive.
04:56Now, what would be a possible explanation?
04:58You know that devices to clone phones are very expensive.
05:01Yes, that's why.
05:02It's not that you buy a computer, you put a software and ...
05:04That's what I'm going to explain.
05:05Very expensive.
05:06Each one of us has a phone, the device, the equipment,
05:09it has a number called e-mail.
05:10It's like the patent.
05:11And then we have the phone line.
05:13You can put different phone lines to the same phone.
05:16That's why researchers, when they track, in this case,
05:20the stolen phones to Josué and Paloma,
05:23they track the line, if the number is activated, and if the e-mail is activated.
05:27That is, looking for the device physically,
05:29because someone can put another line there.
05:32What happens in the last few hours?
05:34In Rio Negro, a phone is activated with the same serial number,
05:38with the same e-mail, with the same patent as Josué's.
05:41Can that be cloned? Yes.
05:43Technically it is possible with this machine that Javier says is very expensive,
05:47but it exists.
05:48Why?
05:49They use it, the cell phone thieves,
05:51as they have an e-mail that is registered as stolen,
05:54they put the e-mail of another device.
05:57As happens with stolen cars.
05:58They steal the car, they put the patent of a car that they understand
06:02was not reported as stolen.
06:04That's why this man told the police,
06:06no, I bought it in August and they gave it to me with this e-mail.
06:09Of course, in August, Josué was obviously alive,
06:12and his original phone was with him.
06:15Now, all this explanation,
06:17this man must have given it to the justice,
06:19that he is not giving it,
06:21calls a lot of attention.
06:22Also, why did he keep this cell phone for so long
06:25and only now he turns it on?
06:26He activated it.
06:27If he had it in August, right?
06:28He activated it.
06:29Of course, this activation was something that was expected,
06:31there was a very high expectation about the activation of one of the cell phones.
06:34We think that this suspect is arrested and will be quickly dismissed.
06:39At least the information that we handled periodically.
06:42It was very likely that it was an error, a stolen phone.
06:47But this, that he does not declare,
06:49well, it leaves us in a situation of expectation to see what happens.
06:53We will continue with more information,
06:55but Diego de Nicolás is in the prosecution for this case.
06:57Diego.
06:59Yes, Soler, Orlando, good afternoon.
07:01Some additional data.
07:03This man, this detainee, does not have a particular lawyer or defender,
07:07but he made use today of an official defender.
07:11One of the theories that are handled is that this man,
07:14upon arriving from a trip,
07:16because he was brought by the Federal Police,
07:18he arrived in Buenos Aires a little overwhelmed and others,
07:20he interviewed with the official defender,
07:21who could have recommended him for now not to declare
07:24and it is not ruled out that in the next few days
07:27he asks to appear before the prosecutor
07:29and be able to give his version there.
07:31Other data regarding the phone,
07:33and this is very important because it has just been incorporated into the case.
07:36That phone was not only activated in Rio Negro a few days ago,
07:42when it was detected by the Federal Police,
07:44but they were also able to verify
07:46that that phone was activated in Rio Negro
07:48the days 10, 11 and 12 of last November,
07:53that is, a long time before the crime of José and Paloma.
07:58Diego, what you are saying is key.
08:00From now on, yes.
08:01Because what you are saying,
08:03this exclusive information that you are transmitting to us,
08:06that you are revealing,
08:07means that what this man says,
08:10in principle what he told the police,
08:12has a technical acidity.
08:13That is, I had the phone with this email
08:16before the crime of Paloma and José.
08:20Yes, totally.
08:21That is why the prosecutor Dario Provisionato
08:23has just submitted the following elements to the Argentine Federal Police.
08:27That Samsung-branded phone that was kidnapped there in Rio Negro.
08:30Another phone that the detainee had,
08:33which could also be of importance,
08:35and a third phone.
08:37The rest of the evidence has been ruled out, at least for now.
08:40And it has also been submitted to the Federal Police.
08:42The CPU, remember that it was opportunely kidnapped
08:46in Paloma's house, which was owned by Omar's father.
08:49Well, the three phones kidnapped in Rio Negro,
08:52plus that CPU,
08:53have just been submitted to the Argentine Federal Police
08:55to be questioned.
08:56But let me, Rolando,
08:58advance also in two hypotheses
09:01that are related to the phones.
09:03If it was a single phone,
09:05that is, a single device,
09:07that phone was in Florencio Varela,
09:09traveled to Rio Negro,
09:10returned to Florencio Varela,
09:11returned to travel to Rio Negro.
09:13That is a hypothesis.
09:15Now, if they are two phones,
09:17phones that have been cloned,
09:19well, there it is explained more
09:21that that phone has been activated
09:23multiple times there in Rio Negro.