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00:00I'm allergic to peppers and carrots, so I don't like kids.
00:06I'm like, no, don't say things like that to a kid.
00:09But when I eat it, I get allergic to it.
00:12I don't want people to understand that.
00:14The theme of tonight's Deep Talk is...
00:17I'm allergic to dust, so when I change my clothes, I risk my life.
00:22When I put gluten in my body, I feel like my face is getting bigger.
00:28Your face?
00:29Due to the immune system that protects the body,
00:31some parts of the body and the whole body are allergic.
00:35According to some research data,
00:3760% of Japanese people have some kind of allergic reaction.
00:41It is also known as national disease.
00:44So, the theme of tonight's Deep Talk is...
00:47Allergy.
00:49It's a lot more severe than a normal person's allergy.
00:53If you go to a dermatologist and get a blood test,
00:57they say it's 100 times worse than a normal person's allergy.
01:00Soba, peanuts.
01:02I can't eat anything but white fish.
01:04I can't eat eggs, I can't eat natto.
01:06I can't eat all dairy products.
01:08I can't eat school lunches.
01:11I have to make it with my family and take it with me.
01:13My friend told me that I can't eat all the blue food coloring.
01:18For example, if there is a lot of blue food coloring in melon soda or blue Hawaii,
01:23you can get a kidney disease.
01:25I think it's pretty bad.
01:28However, people around her don't understand allergies.
01:32I have a fruit allergy.
01:34When I go to a cafe,
01:36they say,
01:38there's only a little bit of fruit in the tart,
01:40so you can eat it.
01:42It's not a problem like that.
01:44This woman has a peanut allergy.
01:47It happened to be in one of the sweets my friend brought.
01:52It was handmade, so I didn't notice it.
01:54It's called anaphylactic shock.
01:56It can be difficult to breathe.
01:58I've had a symptom that involves life.
02:02So tonight, we're going to talk deeply about allergies.
02:07A night where Uyakozuna roars deeply.
02:14This program is a talk show for adults talking about deep topics.
02:17The theme of this time is allergies.
02:19Do you have any allergies?
02:21Yes, I have a hay fever.
02:24I also have an allergic rhinitis.
02:27The reason why I have an allergic rhinitis is that
02:30I can't get it even if I get a checkup.
02:32You can't get it even if you get a checkup?
02:34I was told that there was nothing wrong with my nose.
02:38So I've been taking medicine for about 10 years.
02:41What kind of hay fever is it?
02:43It's a hay fever.
02:45I cry when I'm not supposed to cry.
02:47You can't stop your runny nose?
02:49I don't have a runny nose.
02:51I don't have a runny nose.
02:53But you can't help it.
02:55It's a symptom.
02:57It seems that only one of you has an allergy.
03:01I've listed what kind of allergies you have.
03:05You all have hay fever.
03:07You have food.
03:09What's your hay fever like?
03:12It's already past New Year's.
03:14It's already here.
03:16I have a hay fever.
03:18I have a runny nose, and my eyes get itchy.
03:21And then I get hay fever.
03:23I also have a hay fever and a cold.
03:27It's hard every season.
03:29It's hard all year round.
03:31I have hay fever, hay fever, hay fever, and hay fever.
03:34It's really hard all year round.
03:37It's really hard.
03:39It's hard to do your job in front of people all year round.
03:43It's tough.
03:45I used to have a runny nose, but now I have a runny nose.
03:49People think I used to have a runny nose.
03:52I see.
03:53Are there many people in the world who have hay fever?
03:58About 40% of Japanese people have hay fever.
04:02And in the past 25 years, hay fever has increased.
04:07Especially hay fever.
04:09This is unique to Japan.
04:11In order to compensate for the lack of wood, we planted cedar trees.
04:16As a result, hay fever has increased.
04:19How about you, Ririko?
04:21I was born in Sweden.
04:23When I was born, I didn't have hay fever at all.
04:27When I was 7 years old, I moved to IKEA.
04:30There was a white birch tree in the garden around it.
04:34That's how I got hay fever.
04:37When I was 18 years old, I moved to Japan.
04:39There was no white birch tree in the garden.
04:41I thought I was lucky.
04:43Welcome to IKEA.
04:45Welcome.
04:47It was worse than a white birch tree.
04:51I don't think Ririko has hay fever.
04:53But she looks stronger than an allergy.
04:56I thought I would be better than an allergy.
05:00But I was defeated.
05:03Our immune system works to protect our body.
05:08But it reacts excessively.
05:10We have to defeat the enemy.
05:12That's why we have an allergy.
05:14Many people think it's an allergy because our immune system is weak.
05:19In fact, it happens because our immune system is too strong.
05:23Does that mean you have hay fever because your immune system reacts excessively?
05:27That's right.
05:28You know it.
05:31I totally agree with you.
05:33How about you, Ito?
05:35I have hay fever, too.
05:37I had hay fever for a long time.
05:40I went to a village with a lot of white birch trees.
05:46It was getting worse.
05:49My face was swollen at the end.
05:52I looked like a different person.
05:54I went there.
05:55I was allergic to white birch trees.
05:57I didn't have it until now.
05:59I thought there were too many white birch trees in the village.
06:03I see.
06:05Do you take medicine for hay fever?
06:07Yes, I take medicine every day.
06:10If I don't take medicine, I can't work.
06:13So I carry around an amulet.
06:15If I forget to take medicine and go to a local hospital,
06:17I can't go there.
06:19I have to carry around an amulet.
06:21It's mentally difficult.
06:23That's right.
06:24I took an anti-hay fever treatment.
06:26I put a lot of hay pollen in my tongue.
06:30I took it every day.
06:32I took it for four days and stopped taking it.
06:36Why did you stop taking it?
06:38If I put a lot of hay pollen in my body,
06:40I thought it would get worse.
06:42You were afraid of it psychologically.
06:44Is it a very effective treatment?
06:48Yes, it is.
06:49As a fundamental solution,
06:51I took an anti-hay fever treatment.
06:53I took it for three years.
06:55Three years?
06:57You stopped taking it on the fourth day of the third year?
07:00Will it be cured?
07:02If you can't take it,
07:04I recommend you to take Zorea.
07:06Zorea?
07:07Yes.
07:08What is it?
07:09Zorea is an antibiotic that neutralizes
07:12protein that causes allergies.
07:15Basically, if you take it once a month,
07:18it's a treatment for drinking medicine.
07:21It has a dramatic effect on people with hay fever.
07:24I take it because it's bad for me.
07:26Really?
07:27How is it?
07:28It's really good.
07:29I take it twice every spring.
07:32It's really good.
07:33I see.
07:35What kind of treatment do you take?
07:38My hay fever has improved a lot.
07:41I can't eat anything.
07:45What kind of food?
07:47I can't eat apples, peaches,
07:49or anything I get as a gift.
07:54I can't eat anything.
07:56I can't eat nuts.
07:58What happens when you eat nuts?
08:00It makes my mouth itch.
08:02It's the same with fruits.
08:04It makes my teeth itch.
08:08It makes me itch.
08:10People think I don't like sweets.
08:16That's not true.
08:18When I ask people if they have nuts,
08:20they look at the cake and say,
08:22I don't think they have nuts.
08:24That's not true.
08:26It's powder.
08:27It's powder, so it might be in the cream.
08:30I see.
08:31So I don't go on food shows.
08:36I'm sorry.
08:37I see.
08:39In fact, nuts allergies such as walnuts and cashew nuts
08:42are increasing in Japan.
08:45In the past, the three major allergens in Japan
08:48were eggs, milk, and wheat.
08:51But since Japanese life has become Westernized,
08:54in 2023, it will be eggs, nuts, and milk.
08:59Ms. Kojima, do you have an allergy to food?
09:02I just heard what Ms. Ririko said,
09:05and I thought I finally met one.
09:07But I can't eat cherry tomatoes.
09:09I used to eat them all of a sudden.
09:11I love cherry tomatoes.
09:13It's great to be an adult.
09:15I can eat as much as I want.
09:17When I was eating American cherries,
09:20my mouth suddenly got swollen.
09:23It was itchy.
09:25Then my allergy doctor told me
09:27that I have an allergy to a plant called pannokika.
09:31It's called cross-reaction.
09:34I have an allergy to food made from roses.
09:39Maybe that's it.
09:41Even now, when I eat apples or roses,
09:45I get nervous thinking,
09:47what if I get an allergy?
09:49I didn't know that pollen allergy
09:51was related to an allergy to food.
09:53I didn't know either.
09:55This is a plant called pannokika,
09:57which is an allergy to pollen and food.
09:59It also contains shirakamba.
10:01If you have this allergy,
10:03you can't eat fruits made from roses,
10:05soy milk, or beans.
10:08Pollen has a structure similar to that of fruits and vegetables.
10:13If you think you have a pollen allergy,
10:15you can attack it and get an allergy.
10:19In this group,
10:21if you heat it up,
10:23you can eat it.
10:26So you can eat carrots in curry.
10:30I see.
10:32If you heat it up.
10:34I've heard that, like Mr. Kojima,
10:37if you eat a lot of shirakamba,
10:39you get an allergy.
10:41It's been said for a long time.
10:43If you eat a lot of shirakamba,
10:45you get an allergy.
10:48The theory of pollen allergy
10:50was very famous.
10:52But it's not the case anymore.
10:54Is it different?
10:56In the past, people thought
10:58it was because they ate more than this.
11:00Basically, it's about how our immune system
11:02detects it.
11:05I see.
11:07I want the immune system to do something about it.
11:09Is there a way to prevent the immune system
11:11from reacting to it?
11:13For example,
11:15what we've been eating since we were little
11:17is our intestinal immune system.
11:19It's called the immune system.
11:21It goes in a direction that doesn't cause allergies.
11:23But it's the same way of thinking.
11:25In fact, cedar pollen rice
11:27has already been developed.
11:29It's rice with cedar allergens.
11:32Cedar pollen rice?
11:34Yes.
11:36If you keep eating it,
11:38your immune system will react
11:40and suppress the cedar pollen allergy.
11:42The Agricultural Fisheries Agency
11:44is also working on it.
11:46It's been developed
11:48because there are a lot of people
11:50with cedar pollen allergy.
11:52That's right.
11:54The Agricultural Fisheries Agency
11:56is working on cedar pollen allergy.
11:58But rice, for example,
12:00cedar pollen rice,
12:02is also being developed.
12:04Cedar pollen rice?
12:06Do you eat cedar pollen rice?
12:08I don't eat it.
12:10I'm not good at playing soccer.
12:12Do you have an allergy?
12:14I don't like it.
12:16I don't have an allergy.
12:18Do you eat anything
12:20other than cypress?
12:22Do you eat apples?
12:24I don't eat anything.
12:26I only eat house dust
12:28Do you know what cedar pollen is?
12:30When you take medicine,
12:32your skin swells up
12:34and you can't breathe.
12:36There was a time when
12:38I was taken to the hospital.
12:40The doctor examined me
12:42and there was no cedar pollen.
12:44I thought,
12:46is it really cedar pollen?
12:48But the medicine I was taking
12:50was only cedar pollen.
12:52It was a normal headache medicine.
12:54It's a suspicious thing.
12:56I thought,
12:58maybe it's a medicine allergy,
13:00so I should take medicine
13:02that can find out the cause.
13:04So I took medicine twice.
13:06Vegetable allergies
13:08that occur in adults
13:10are often caused by
13:12eating the cause of the allergy.
13:14When you eat the cause of the allergy,
13:16you exercise,
13:18take antipyretics,
13:20drink alcohol,
13:22and get sick.
13:24When you take antipyretics,
13:26you get allergic reactions.
13:28This is called food-dependent
13:30exercise-inducing anaphylaxis.
13:32When you take antipyretics,
13:34you get allergic reactions
13:36only when you eat
13:38the cause of the allergy.
13:40So the cause of the allergy
13:42may have been food.
13:44I don't remember what I ate
13:46that night.
13:48Kojima-san,
13:50do you have any other allergies?
13:52I had the same thing
13:54as Ito-san in the past.
13:56Every time I caught a cold,
13:58my face turned red,
14:00and it was itchy.
14:02One day,
14:04I told the doctor about it.
14:06The doctor said,
14:08maybe it's a medicine allergy,
14:10so let's go to the hospital
14:12and check it out.
14:14So I went to the university hospital
14:16and talked to the doctor.
14:18He said,
14:20it's a medicine allergy.
14:22I was hospitalized twice,
14:24and I couldn't drink it
14:26until I found out
14:28the cause of the allergy.
14:30But I knew
14:32it would be fine
14:34if I didn't take it.
14:36So the doctor said,
14:38it's an allergy.
14:40Hori-san,
14:42do you have any other allergies?
14:44I have skin care
14:46and facial packs.
14:48I wash my face with water
14:50in a hurry,
14:52but it doesn't go away.
14:54My face turns red
14:56all day long.
14:58So I can't use
15:00packs with strong ingredients.
15:02Do you use the same things
15:04all the time?
15:06Basically,
15:08I use patches
15:10and skin care products.
15:12If I use the same things
15:14sometimes,
15:16my face turns red.
15:18I see.
15:20It's a big wave.
15:22If you put up with it for a while,
15:24your face turns red.
15:26If you use a product
15:28with strong ingredients,
15:30you may lose.
15:32If you apply honey
15:34or yogurt directly
15:36to your skin,
15:38you can get skin care effects.
15:40It's a hot topic on social media,
15:42but it's very dangerous.
15:44When skin care products
15:46enter your skin,
15:48your body reacts
15:50to them and you may
15:52get allergic reactions.
15:54Do you have any other
15:56allergies?
15:58Well,
16:00many children
16:02don't know
16:04about their allergies.
16:06On Halloween,
16:08many foreigners live
16:10in areas with a lot of children.
16:12So,
16:14they don't know
16:16about their allergies.
16:18I think they know,
16:20but I have to tell them.
16:22I see.
16:24I have to be careful.
16:26I see.
16:28If something happens to you,
16:30you may get allergic reactions.
16:32In Sweden,
16:34many people have allergies.
16:36When I was a kid,
16:38I went to an elementary school
16:40and my teacher told me
16:42if I did something like this,
16:44I would get allergic reactions.
16:46So, I played a role in a play.
16:48I said,
16:50people with allergies,
16:52thank you for coming.
16:54Students said,
16:56stop!
16:58If you do this,
17:00the pollen will fly.
17:02So, people with allergies
17:04will have a hard time.
17:06They teach you in a fun way.
17:08But, actually,
17:10I see.
17:12I have to be careful.
17:14You shouldn't say
17:16such a childish thing.
17:18But, if you eat it,
17:20you will get allergic reactions.
17:22I see.
17:24We are also waiting for your
17:26favorite subscription.
17:28We are looking for your concerns.
17:30It's hard to say to your family
17:32and friends,
17:34but if you have any concerns
17:36please contact us.
17:38Inukai-kun,
17:40are you careful?
17:42I have a friend
17:44who is allergic to soba.
17:46I don't choose a soba restaurant
17:48when I go out for a meal.
17:50But, there is a restaurant
17:52that sells soba and udon.
17:54I have heard that
17:56they are actually
17:58boiled in the same water.
18:00So, I try to avoid
18:02such places as much as possible.
18:04I see.
18:06Do you have any concerns
18:08about allergies in Japan?
18:10Yes.
18:12I am allergic to
18:14bell peppers and carrots.
18:16I hate children.
18:18I can't eat bell peppers and carrots.
18:20You shouldn't say
18:22such a childish thing.
18:24But, if you eat it,
18:26you will get allergic reactions.
18:28I see.
18:30In Sweden,
18:32it is called
18:34an invisible handicap.
18:36If you have a physical disability,
18:38it is easy to understand
18:40such as wheelchair.
18:42But, it is scary
18:44because it is invisible.
18:46I don't say you should understand everything,
18:48but I want you to know
18:50that you shouldn't say
18:52what you don't like.
18:54In Japan,
18:56people are learning
18:58about allergies
19:00more and more.
19:02I see.
19:04So,
19:06you are allergic to bell peppers.
19:08How was it, Inukai?
19:10I think it is important
19:12to understand yourself.
19:14By understanding yourself,
19:16you can be considerate to others.
19:18Besides,
19:20I have to eat
19:22raw fish
19:24which I don't like.
19:26What are you talking about?
19:30In the next episode,
19:32she will learn feminism.
19:34When I was a child,
19:36no one told me
19:38that I should quit my job,
19:40go shopping,
19:42breastfeed,
19:44and wash my fingers.
19:46I can't get angry,
19:48but I feel guilty
19:50for not doing it.
19:52Stay tuned.