What does it mean to be cool?
With Andre Choo Quan
With Andre Choo Quan
Category
📺
TVTranscript
00:00Manhood, brought to you in part by Reboot Sports Drink.
00:09So welcome to another episode of Manhood.
00:13And we always say it's really about a conversation,
00:15a real conversation, a genuine conversation,
00:18to meet you where you're at and to meet us where we are at and think we are.
00:24And I always learn after these episodes or these conversations
00:28more about the topic than the research that we put in prior.
00:31So this is Manhood, the topic today, a very interesting one.
00:36What does it mean to be cool?
00:38What is it manly to be cool?
00:42And to get into that conversation, always a pleasure,
00:46Johanse, IODK, Behavior Change Consultant,
00:50another good friend, Andre Chukwan, also known as Dre Trini Jungle Juice.
00:55Many of you have been cool posing for those pictures
00:58that he's taken across the years in this business
01:02and given you an image of being cool.
01:05We'll define what that is in our interpretations shortly.
01:10And another partner, the one and only Ken Simmons, media personality.
01:15So, gents, being cool.
01:19All right.
01:20When you told me about the topic, when I heard the word cool,
01:25the first thing that came to mind was somebody in sunglasses, right?
01:29And I analyzed why was that image the first thing.
01:33And then I remember as a child when the term cool started to be cool, right?
01:38It was somebody who in a shade had a certain kind of look.
01:43So, the first thing I thought about was the look at first.
01:46A look, or cool, it could be defined as a look.
01:50So, I'll start there.
01:51Andre, tell me your thoughts.
01:53Let me, uh...
01:55Oh, the man.
01:56The man, you know.
01:58For the writing.
01:59Yeah, boy.
02:01Listen, it's too bright in here.
02:03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:05I wasn't sure if I could wear...
02:07If I could bring my sunglasses inside the session or not, you know?
02:10They say it's not cool to wear sunglasses inside.
02:13Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:14But, no, cool for me is a swag.
02:18Having a personal swag or demeanor that sets you apart
02:22where people see your individuality.
02:25As they look at you, they're like,
02:26something different about that person.
02:28Something that stands out, something unique about that one person.
02:33That's that X factor.
02:35That's cool for me, having that X factor.
02:37Okay.
02:38So, someone who does not toe the line
02:41but has his own individuality and style
02:45that he's able to set a trend.
02:50So, basically, you're looking at someone and say,
02:52hey, you know, that's different.
02:55That's cool.
02:57Yeah.
02:57So, I guess from a visual point,
03:00we can start there.
03:02We can start there.
03:03Right.
03:03So, this first segment,
03:05we want to break down our own thoughts generally
03:08of what does it mean to be cool, right?
03:12And, again, if I feel that there are times
03:15that we feel we're going off topic
03:16or the real intent of the topic,
03:19I try to bring it back.
03:21And so, I want to rephrase,
03:24like, what does it mean to be cool?
03:25Now, from the going around the room,
03:29it seems that, so far,
03:30we're putting a positive connotation to it.
03:33You know, whether it's a sense of dress,
03:34I totally understand when you mend the sunglasses,
03:37even somebody lighting a cigarette.
03:40You know, all of these things were meant to be cool.
03:42It's cool to take a drink.
03:44Cool to, depends on the car you're driving.
03:46And, as you said, you know,
03:48in other words,
03:49sometimes being cool is that person that stands out,
03:51that bad boy.
03:53Right, yeah.
03:53You know, that person who goes against.
03:56So, what, so are we saying then that cool is positive
04:00or can cool, cool can lead to negative?
04:03Or is it, is it, what, what?
04:07I guess, I guess it can be a mixture of both.
04:10It all depends on how the individual looks
04:13and how they define cool.
04:16But I think to be branded as someone is cool,
04:21you have to push the envelope.
04:23You can't toe the line, as I mentioned.
04:25And there are times that you would do things,
04:29you exhibit negative traits, but, you know.
04:34Like what?
04:35Like, like, let's just say if, if we are,
04:38if we are direct or, or, or sometimes condescending,
04:42it might be offensive to some, but other,
04:45hey, I like his assertiveness,
04:47so his, his, his bold approach
04:49and no holds bars, you know, tell it as it is.
04:53But for somebody else,
04:54it may be crude, crass, offensive.
04:57So, he's like, yo, yo, yo, he real, he's the realist.
05:01He real cool.
05:02I like that.
05:03I could relate to them.
05:04Right.
05:05Right?
05:06And somebody could see it as negative.
05:08So, I, I think it's a combination of both.
05:11But, but mainly is, it's about owning it.
05:14It's about individuality.
05:16It's about standing out and being separate and apart.
05:19So, cool isn't necessarily being zen.
05:21Cool is not necessarily like you come into a room
05:23and make, I make everyone feel better about themselves.
05:27Because to me, someone who's cool,
05:29I would say, listen, in that environment,
05:32I, I liked how they presented themselves,
05:35how they made me feel,
05:37how they made others feel,
05:38and your general demeanor
05:40and to how you,
05:41and how your outlook was on the world
05:44in a particular situation.
05:46So, where someone might shout and cuss and carry on,
05:49that person might have just really handled
05:51the situation differently.
05:53And therefore, everyone,
05:55apart from their own spirit
05:56and their, their, their comfort levels,
05:58is all at a level of almost humility
06:01and being humble.
06:03And so, I would correlate cool
06:04with humility and being humble.
06:07Right, right.
06:08Whereas, if, if someone's being left
06:10feeling a particular way
06:11and another person feels,
06:13ah, boy, that person was assertive and strong,
06:16is that really cool
06:17when someone else is feeling bad?
06:19Well, let me combine the two
06:21because, because it's a word, right?
06:23A word is a difficult thing,
06:25a time to define
06:26because I would have high context.
06:28Yes.
06:28And because cool,
06:30the literal meaning of cool
06:32is more like,
06:33it's not cold and it's not hot.
06:34So, it's cool.
06:35Right?
06:36If you're going literal.
06:37Yeah.
06:37But when we add it as a slang,
06:39slang means there's a human dynamic,
06:40there's a high context meaning
06:42by culture,
06:43by person,
06:44by family,
06:45by country,
06:45et cetera, et cetera.
06:46So, that could be a little difficult
06:48when we define it,
06:49but we're still defining it.
06:51So, let me see if I could add the two.
06:53Cool is a feeling
06:55they could give somebody.
06:56That person real cool
06:57and calm boy.
06:58But adding what Ken say,
06:59Ken, you're saying somebody
07:01who show up themselves.
07:02You're saying a style.
07:03Yeah.
07:03So, it may not be assertive
07:05and let you be a little semantic.
07:07When you say assertive,
07:08assertive don't necessarily
07:09have a force
07:10versus assertive
07:12have a surety.
07:13Right.
07:13So, aggressive
07:14have a force.
07:15So, let me go in degrees.
07:17Aggressive,
07:18assertive,
07:19passive.
07:20Right?
07:20And then we put in cool
07:22somewhere,
07:22somewhere there.
07:23So, a cool person
07:25is somebody
07:25who show up themselves
07:26with a style.
07:27So, you don't have to come
07:28across aggressive,
07:29but they could just be cool
07:30and I know who I am.
07:32That's the assertion.
07:33I know what I stand for.
07:35So, self-assuredness.
07:36Yeah.
07:36Right.
07:36So, when you're talking
07:37to that person,
07:38that person,
07:39that person real cool boy.
07:40They don't have to,
07:42let's just say a challenge,
07:43well, what are you wearing
07:43that for?
07:44What are you wearing shades
07:44inside for?
07:45They're not getting defensive.
07:47They just say,
07:48well, I like shades.
07:49If you understand
07:50what I'm saying.
07:50So, it's a cool,
07:52calm feeling,
07:52but still,
07:53you're sure of yourself
07:54and you're assertive.
07:56So, so far we spoke
07:57about cool,
07:58the image,
07:59and it is cool,
08:00the demeanor.
08:01So, you have a,
08:02as you say,
08:03somebody come in the room
08:04and he calms the room down
08:05and everybody heated.
08:07So, you're calm, fellas.
08:09There's no big deal.
08:10He just making everything
08:11cool now, right?
08:12He simmer things down
08:12and then that cool image,
08:14yo, I see Marshall,
08:15he had a new shirt
08:16and a thing,
08:17man look real cool.
08:18Yeah.
08:18Yeah?
08:19So, so,
08:20if I want to be,
08:21but there's also cool
08:22that you,
08:25you're trying to be cool
08:26and you're doing the things
08:28to look and be cool.
08:30So, you may give off,
08:31you might decide,
08:32let's not put on the tattoo sleeve,
08:34you know,
08:34I might dye my hair blonde
08:35and I might,
08:36well, you know,
08:37whatever that version is of us,
08:40you know,
08:40you might grow out
08:41and mark your bed,
08:43all the different things
08:44that's perceived
08:44in the environment
08:45because those things
08:46in another environment
08:47might be cool.
08:48Right.
08:48But in the particular environment
08:49you want to belong to
08:51or you want to be perceived
08:53as cool,
08:53you may do things
08:54to fit in.
08:56So, again,
08:57and I use that word
08:57fit in
08:58because we talked about
09:00self-assuredness
09:00and confidence,
09:02but if you're trying
09:04to do,
09:04doing things
09:05that are to fit in,
09:07then really and truly
09:08you're not confident
09:08because you're not trying to,
09:10you're not standing out
09:11subconsciously
09:13or you're not,
09:13or you're not standing out
09:15innately.
09:16You are trying
09:18to be something
09:18and by putting that on,
09:20how long can you really
09:21keep that up
09:22and what really is
09:23your true demeanor?
09:24No,
09:24but that's a good,
09:25that's a good point though
09:26because I find,
09:27like,
09:27personally,
09:28you're either cool or not.
09:30You can't try
09:31to be cool.
09:31Talk to them, Andrew.
09:32Talk to them.
09:32You know what I mean?
09:33There are people fighting
09:34to be cool or trying.
09:35Because try means
09:35you're not accomplishing.
09:36Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:37But people who set out
09:39to,
09:39hey,
09:40are you going to be cool?
09:41Like,
09:41you're either cool or not
09:42as far as I'm concerned.
09:44But you could try,
09:45but you probably will fail.
09:47Is that you have it
09:48or you don't have it.
09:49And you could do
09:50everything that you can
09:51to be a better person
09:53for certain things
09:55and that in itself
09:56might make you cool
09:56by trying to be
09:58calmer in a situation
09:59trying to look
10:01at another person's
10:02perspective,
10:03trying to speak
10:03to people differently,
10:05trying to be more open
10:07about the scenario.
10:07And by doing those things,
10:08you could start
10:09to become cooler.
10:11But inherently,
10:13if you have certain things
10:14that in your societal influences
10:15or even upbringing
10:16that's made you
10:17a particular way hard,
10:19and that comes
10:20to the other point,
10:21you know,
10:21when we talk about cool,
10:22is cool also being,
10:23you know,
10:24a bad man?
10:26Well,
10:26I think from what you've
10:27seen so far,
10:29cool seems like
10:30a vibration.
10:32Let me see why
10:33I say that,
10:33right?
10:33Is that,
10:35you see,
10:35either you're cool
10:36or you're not.
10:37And we can't try
10:39to be cool.
10:39And when somebody
10:40trying too hard,
10:42we just know.
10:43Right?
10:43It don't matter
10:44what style.
10:46Even if you win,
10:46I just give an example,
10:48all the colors
10:48that don't match.
10:49If you know
10:50you like that,
10:52something about a vibe,
10:54you'll realize
10:54they're cool.
10:56It's like when you see
10:57somebody wearing something
10:58and you say,
10:59then wearing that,
11:00but somehow
11:01they're rocking it good.
11:02But somebody else
11:03may make the same thing.
11:05And fail.
11:06So I'm looking at it now
11:07as a vibration of
11:08going back with the assurity,
11:10show of yourself,
11:12no matter what your style is,
11:14your demeanor,
11:15your socioeconomic status,
11:18whoever you are.
11:20If you have a certain
11:21surety about it,
11:23then people would feel
11:24your coolness.
11:26Yeah.
11:27The coolness
11:28that we are referring to,
11:31sometimes people may
11:32look upon somebody
11:34who is cool
11:35as somebody
11:36who is a pushover.
11:38So they don't have,
11:41or they may have an opinion.
11:43Yes, not to say
11:44that they don't have an opinion.
11:44They have an opinion,
11:45but they will not voice
11:48their opinion
11:49for the sake
11:50of pleasing others.
11:52And yeah,
11:52they're real cool.
11:53They will do that for you.
11:54Yeah, no problem.
11:55He will do that.
11:56He will do that.
11:57But yet,
11:58at the same time,
11:58you're not fully expressing
12:00yourself,
12:01who you are.
12:02And to me,
12:03you're weak.
12:04And in an attempt
12:06to try to please people,
12:08you know,
12:08you're more of a people pleaser.
12:10and it is not serving
12:14the purpose
12:14for which you set out
12:16to be,
12:16which is cool.
12:17So for me,
12:19coolness has a lot to do,
12:20as you mentioned before,
12:22individuality.
12:24And you'll be able
12:24to express yourself
12:26in a non-judgmental way,
12:29but at the same time,
12:30you're expressing
12:31your individuality
12:33and your confidence
12:33in all aspects
12:35and all facets.
12:35So you also mentioned
12:37a point earlier
12:38that we definitely
12:39want to touch on,
12:40but we need to take
12:40a short break.
12:42And when we come back,
12:43you mentioned,
12:44you know,
12:45we all have our understandings
12:47of what cool is,
12:49because that's it
12:50from a sort of initial meaning.
12:53And I'm sure
12:53when we start to share deeper,
12:55we may leave here
12:56feeling differently about it.
12:58And one of the things
12:59you mentioned, Ken,
13:00is being cool
13:03being a man?
13:03I honestly think that...
13:07By the way to answer that,
13:08no, I want us to take a break,
13:09but I want to...
13:10It was quite profound
13:13and really want to discuss that.
13:15So we take a short break.
13:16When we come back,
13:17we continue to talk about
13:18what does it mean to be cool?
13:19What does it mean to be you?
13:20And remember,
13:21we're not speaking
13:22on behalf of all men
13:23or cool people.
13:25We're just a few men,
13:27some...
13:27Some cool and some not.
13:29Some not.
13:30Some not.
13:31Well, I mean,
13:32you know,
13:33we might not have
13:33the whole Crips.
13:34Yeah, like some people.
13:36The Crips outfit,
13:37as they say, you know,
13:38and the manicured
13:40or the whatever...
13:41What do you call it?
13:43The groom...
13:43The groom...
13:44The groom bed.
13:45So, you know,
13:47we'll come back
13:47with this cool guy.
13:49Yeah, he's manicured too.
13:50Yeah, he's...
13:51Welcome back to Manhood.
14:03So, Robert,
14:03you asked a question
14:04before the break
14:05and
14:06in my personal opinion,
14:08we're talking about
14:09cool,
14:10what it means to be cool
14:11and
14:12I honestly believe
14:14that
14:14a true man
14:16will not be regarded
14:18as someone
14:19as being cool.
14:21Tell them.
14:22Tell them.
14:23Because I...
14:23One.
14:23I think we all hear like,
14:25One.
14:25Because the facets
14:27and the characteristics
14:29of a man
14:29will call for him
14:31in intervals
14:33to make
14:34tough and unpopular
14:36decisions.
14:37And in those
14:38scenarios,
14:40he may be regarded
14:42as an...
14:42You know,
14:44as a...
14:44But he will do it
14:47for the benefit,
14:48hopefully,
14:49of not just himself
14:50but those
14:51he has jurisdiction
14:52and care over.
14:54And that's just
14:55the reality of it.
14:57But...
14:57So it's a perception
14:58thing then?
14:58It's a perception.
14:59That's what I'm saying.
15:00That's what I'm saying.
15:01So cool is not
15:02someone who's just
15:03passive.
15:04Okay, go ahead
15:04and you push over.
15:06But it's
15:08individuality,
15:09owning it,
15:10being confident,
15:11not being disrespectful,
15:13being assured
15:14and assertive
15:15but at the same time
15:16you're giving
15:17and you express
15:19empathy
15:19and you're able
15:22to now put yourself
15:23in other people's
15:24shoes.
15:25A leader,
15:26a man,
15:27can be cool
15:28but at the same time
15:29have a caring
15:30and loving heart.
15:31So a man can be cool then?
15:33Yes,
15:33but he will not
15:34in a society,
15:36wait,
15:37in a society
15:38that looks
15:39on someone
15:41in a particular way
15:42as being cool,
15:43there are times
15:45that he will not
15:45be regarded
15:46as cool.
15:46They say
15:47when he could be
15:48regarded to
15:49other persons
15:50but in terms
15:51of to the family
15:51he could still
15:52be regarded
15:53as being cool
15:53because those
15:54who he loves
15:55and is protecting
15:56But they will say
15:56you don't know him
15:57or no.
15:58They will say
15:58you don't know him
15:59because if he is
16:00pushed to the
16:01cool way
16:02because we believe
16:03that cool
16:04is one particular
16:06state
16:07not knowing
16:09that that's not
16:09how life works.
16:10Life is not just
16:11full of...
16:11So cool in that case
16:12is that the person
16:13always feels,
16:13the recipient
16:14around that person
16:16is always feeling good
16:17about the moment
16:19that they feel
16:20in any way
16:22targeted
16:24or something
16:25doesn't go their way
16:26that person
16:26is not cool.
16:26Or they feel
16:27uncomfortable
16:27and rightly so.
16:29If I am true
16:30to myself
16:31and I'm true
16:33to the people
16:33around me
16:33there are things
16:34that I would say
16:34and do
16:35that sometimes
16:36it may feel
16:36uncomfortable
16:37but it's for
16:38the greater good
16:38of you.
16:39Just now.
16:40Ken,
16:41what Ken was saying
16:41you're saying
16:42he was contradicting
16:43himself, right?
16:44I don't think so,
16:45you know.
16:45I don't think
16:45he was contradicting
16:46himself.
16:47Going back
16:48to what I was
16:48saying before
16:49and I think
16:49there's a problem
16:50when you're trying
16:51to consider
16:51somebody cool
16:52or not.
16:53The word cool
16:54veered away
16:55from the dictionary
16:57meaning.
16:58So therefore
16:58we attach
16:59different meanings
17:00to it.
17:00So in one light
17:01a cool person
17:03is somebody
17:04who knows
17:05themselves
17:05etc.
17:06If a man
17:07is a cool person
17:07that could be
17:08so subjective
17:09because I've
17:10heard people
17:11say he
17:12real cool
17:13under tough
17:14circumstances
17:15which of course
17:15is a positive
17:16thing.
17:16Correct.
17:17Right?
17:17And then
17:18because it's a slang
17:19and people use
17:20slang however
17:21they want to
17:22a man who is
17:23passive
17:23anytime anybody
17:24says anything
17:25well cool
17:25I'm cool with
17:26this
17:26I'm cool with
17:27that.
17:27It's like a woman
17:28saying it's fine.
17:30He becomes
17:30a cool guy
17:32right?
17:33But his coolness
17:34is he just
17:35taking anything.
17:37He's weak.
17:37But on one end
17:38cool could be
17:39he have everything
17:40together
17:41because under
17:42pressure
17:42he real cool.
17:43So it's the
17:45same mode
17:46we're using
17:47but because
17:48we could
17:48attach
17:49different
17:49meaning
17:50states
17:50that's where
17:51sometimes we run
17:52into a little
17:52difficulty.
17:54So you're
17:54entitled to your
17:55opinion.
17:56I still feel
17:56it's
17:57contradicting
17:58contradicting
17:59too.
17:59And here
17:59this
17:59I'm cool
18:00with that.
18:00And we're
18:01all cool.
18:02We're all
18:02sitting down
18:03here very
18:03cool.
18:04And the
18:06whole thing
18:07is the
18:08topic in
18:09terms of
18:10what is it
18:13to be cool
18:14is different
18:14to what does
18:15it mean
18:16to be cool.
18:17And when
18:18it means
18:19it's four
18:19guys sitting
18:20down here
18:20with our
18:21own opinions
18:22that I
18:23respect.
18:24We're all
18:25cool.
18:26Even you
18:26I want
18:32to get
18:32into the
18:33fact that
18:33cool as
18:34we said
18:35could be
18:36a perception
18:36it's subjective
18:37it's the way
18:38you dress.
18:40I take
18:41Andrea's
18:41point where
18:42the one
18:43thing is
18:43you can't
18:45try to be
18:45cool.
18:46Well you
18:46could try
18:47to be
18:47cool but
18:48then you're
18:48not cool.
18:48If you're
18:49trying and
18:50it's not
18:50coming out
18:51organically
18:52failure.
18:53I see
18:54people in
18:55my days
18:55of living
18:55in New
18:56York
18:56that would
18:56just shave
18:57their head
18:57here
18:58and twist
19:00here and
19:01then they
19:02go out
19:02and they
19:02think that
19:02but that's
19:03a form of
19:03expression
19:04because even
19:05doing that
19:06is a form
19:06of expression
19:07but it's
19:07not necessarily
19:08cool.
19:10It could be
19:11that they're
19:12expressing
19:13themselves out
19:14of
19:14or trying
19:14to follow
19:15someone which
19:16means what I
19:18want to come
19:18down to is
19:19that being
19:20cool or
19:21being the
19:21perception of
19:22cool can
19:22also come
19:23from
19:23insecurity.
19:24true and
19:26as a man
19:26I don't
19:26want to be
19:27regarded as
19:27being cool.
19:30No I don't
19:31want to be
19:31regarded as
19:32being cool
19:32because again
19:33generally the
19:35perception
19:35because that's
19:36not how you
19:37should define
19:38me personally.
19:40Yes there
19:41are cool
19:42aspects of
19:43me but
19:44that is a
19:45minuscule
19:45understanding of
19:46manhood and
19:47who I am
19:48supposed to
19:48represent.
19:49me Ken
19:50Simmons.
19:51So yes there
19:52are times
19:52that I would
19:54not say
19:54anything I
19:55would listen
19:56there are
19:56some times I
19:56would give
19:57way sometimes
19:58not all
19:59battle is to
20:01be fought
20:02and as
20:04Johann says
20:04when you're
20:06in the midst
20:06of a storm
20:07a raging
20:08storm and
20:09you're able
20:09to be calm
20:10and collective
20:10and make
20:11decisions under
20:12pressure that
20:13speaks of
20:15strength.
20:15so when
20:17they say
20:17hey Ken
20:17cool
20:18no no
20:19Ken is a
20:20man
20:20I ain't
20:21cool
20:22because I
20:23can be rough
20:24around the
20:25edges but
20:26trust and
20:28believe that
20:29you may not
20:30see the
20:30greater good
20:31now and
20:32in dealing
20:34with people
20:34I try to
20:35deal with
20:36people with
20:36respect.
20:38I try to
20:39say things
20:40that don't
20:41offend you
20:42but I will
20:43speak the
20:43truth and
20:44there's a
20:44philosophy that
20:45I live by
20:46from Shakespeare
20:47to thine
20:47own self
20:48be true
20:48and you
20:50will not be
20:50false to
20:51any man.
20:52Authenticity
20:52is the
20:53highest frequency.
20:54Be yourself.
20:55This man
20:55giving closing
20:56statements
20:57already.
20:58He's a
20:59nuggets.
21:01You've
21:03seen a
21:04lot.
21:04I have
21:04just two
21:05points based
21:07on what I've
21:07heard.
21:08One,
21:09being cool
21:10doesn't just
21:10belong to
21:11men.
21:13Man,
21:13woman,
21:14child,
21:14dog,
21:15cat,
21:15I've seen
21:16cool dogs
21:16on TikTok.
21:18Cool is
21:18across the
21:19board.
21:20It's not
21:20just
21:20some man.
21:21Two,
21:22you could
21:23be cool
21:23but that
21:24don't mean
21:24you always
21:25have to
21:25keep you
21:25cool.
21:27I could
21:27look cool,
21:29I could be
21:29cool to
21:29everybody but
21:30there are
21:30times when
21:31I could
21:31blow off.
21:32I don't
21:33mean I'm
21:33not cool.
21:34It doesn't
21:34mean there are
21:34times I have to
21:35deal with
21:35something in
21:35a way that
21:36mightn't be
21:37cool.
21:38you've
21:42been to
21:43several
21:44hundreds of
21:45I could
21:46even say
21:46probably
21:46thousands of
21:47events all
21:48across from
21:49all these
21:49different
21:50Caribbean
21:50events and
21:51seeing many
21:51people in
21:52all these
21:53environments,
21:53everybody trying
21:54to be cool.
21:55Everybody.
21:56I saw a
21:56Jamaican
21:57in, I
21:58won't call
21:59the name
21:59any fat,
22:00I think
22:00he had
22:00a robe and
22:02I walk up
22:02to him and
22:02I say,
22:03yo,
22:04brethren,
22:05I can't
22:05keep up,
22:06like your
22:07style on a
22:07whole different
22:08level.
22:09And what
22:09I'm going
22:09to do,
22:10like I'm
22:10making,
22:11you know,
22:11being trendy
22:11now,
22:12and he
22:12say,
22:12yo,
22:13don't try
22:14to be
22:14me,
22:14be you,
22:15you know,
22:16he's like,
22:16don't try
22:16to be me,
22:17don't keep
22:17up,
22:18invent your
22:19own self.
22:19And I
22:20say,
22:20yeah,
22:20you're
22:20right,
22:20I'm not
22:21trying to,
22:21but he
22:23made a
22:23good point
22:23because
22:24that's what
22:24people see,
22:24they see
22:25people who
22:25they deem
22:26as cool
22:27and they
22:28want to
22:28then be
22:29that person
22:29but don't
22:30be that
22:30person,
22:31be you,
22:31right?
22:32Always be
22:32you.
22:33In being
22:35you,
22:35I mean,
22:35I like,
22:36I take
22:37from what
22:37you're
22:37saying,
22:38you should
22:38always be
22:39sincere
22:40and
22:41genuine
22:42to yourself
22:43and to
22:43others
22:44and in
22:44that sense,
22:45that to
22:45me is
22:46what being
22:47the epitome
22:48of cool
22:49would be,
22:49right?
22:50But
22:51we also
22:52follow style,
22:54we also
22:55see things
22:55and we
22:56take bits
22:57of different
22:58things that
22:58we see,
22:59especially
22:59with the
22:59advent of
23:00social media
23:00and we
23:01take bits
23:02of those
23:02things that
23:03we see
23:03and it
23:04brings about
23:04our
23:05personality
23:06and our
23:06self-expression
23:08and in that
23:09way we are
23:09then regarded
23:10by someone
23:10else looking
23:11on as
23:12cool,
23:13you know?
23:14So,
23:15the fact
23:16that he's
23:16wearing a
23:17robe,
23:17right,
23:18I'm sure
23:19it's not
23:20something that
23:20he's just
23:20decided,
23:21hey,
23:21I'm going
23:22to put
23:22on this
23:22Yves
23:23Celera
23:24or Gucci
23:26robe or
23:27maybe from,
23:28I don't know,
23:28I don't want to
23:28call any of
23:29these other
23:29places because
23:30you might
23:30get into
23:30trouble,
23:31but something
23:32of less
23:34cost to
23:35the regular
23:38party goer.
23:40Right.
23:41So,
23:41he himself,
23:42has he come
23:43up with his
23:43own style
23:44or has he
23:44decided,
23:45I want to
23:45make an
23:45impact and
23:46go out there
23:46and be,
23:47sometimes we
23:47go so
23:48far from
23:49trying to
23:49be different
23:51that,
23:54of course.
23:55So,
23:55let me
23:56draw an
23:56analogy
23:57there and
23:57an example.
23:59Anybody here
24:01regards Kanye West
24:02as being cool?
24:05Yes.
24:07Yes?
24:07Yes.
24:08Absolutely
24:09not.
24:10No.
24:11No.
24:11Borderline
24:14crazy.
24:15Yes.
24:16Borderline
24:16crazy,
24:17but in
24:17his own
24:17way.
24:18He went
24:18there.
24:22That's
24:22in the
24:22same
24:23caliber as
24:24the robe,
24:25right?
24:25Because,
24:26and when
24:27he was
24:27talking about
24:28you,
24:28we know
24:28what I was
24:28thinking about
24:29because Robert
24:30was saying
24:30sometimes people
24:31could try to
24:32be too hard
24:32and he was
24:33saying be
24:34yourself.
24:35So,
24:35cool now
24:36have a
24:36qualifier
24:37because let's
24:38just say he
24:38wore that robe
24:39once,
24:40right?
24:40The first
24:41fact.
24:42People could
24:42say,
24:43I'm telling
24:43this man
24:43but he's
24:44trying too
24:44hard,
24:45he's
24:45trying to
24:45be cool.
24:46But let's
24:46just say
24:46he wear
24:47a robe
24:47for the
24:48next year
24:49at every
24:50party.
24:50You know
24:50what he'll
24:51be?
24:51He'll be
24:51a trendsetter,
24:52he'll be
24:52the man
24:53in the
24:53robe and
24:53he'll
24:53become
24:54cool.
24:54That's
24:54his
24:54identity.
24:55Not
24:55necessarily
24:57because let
24:57me tell
24:57you something,
24:58somebody
24:58who is
24:59individuality,
25:00we talked
25:00about that,
25:01having your
25:02own sense
25:02of style,
25:04you're
25:04confident.
25:06If you are
25:07truly cool,
25:07then at
25:08some point
25:09in time,
25:09I want
25:10to be
25:10like you,
25:11I want
25:11to adopt
25:12your style.
25:13But if
25:14I am
25:14doing
25:14something and
25:15nobody
25:16wants to
25:16wear what
25:18I want
25:18to wear.
25:19plenty
25:20people
25:20want
25:21to be
25:21like
25:21Kanye.
25:24Let me
25:27tell you,
25:27I don't
25:28really like
25:28his style,
25:29but I
25:30could
25:30acknowledge
25:31that he
25:31cool.
25:34You know
25:35what?
25:35They take
25:35away my
25:36shoe label,
25:37I walk
25:38in in
25:38socks.
25:39I just
25:39gave
25:39an example
25:40now.
25:40He has
25:41a sense
25:43of how
25:44he thinks.
25:45We talked
25:46about
25:46coolness
25:47based on
25:47our look.
25:48So we
25:48may want
25:49to exhibit
25:50his behavior
25:52and how
25:52he operates
25:53and how
25:54he thinks
25:54in that
25:54regard.
25:55But in
25:55relation to
25:56some of
25:56the outrageous
25:57outfits and
25:58so many
25:58things that
25:58he do,
25:59we don't
25:59want the
25:59majority of
26:01sane people
26:02don't want
26:03to do
26:03that.
26:03I think
26:03sometimes
26:04they wear
26:06stuff that
26:07they're so
26:08trying to
26:08stand out
26:09or not
26:10fit in
26:11or be seen
26:12or make
26:12a statement
26:12that sometimes
26:13they decide
26:14listen,
26:15I'm going
26:15to pull
26:15along this
26:16or you
26:16have
26:17something
26:17canvas in
26:18here,
26:18I'm just
26:18going to
26:18take that
26:19and wrap
26:19it around
26:20my head
26:20and I'm
26:21going to
26:22tear this
26:22pair of
26:23jeans off
26:24here and
26:24pull up
26:25our stockings
26:26here and
26:26I'm going
26:27to go
26:27out with
26:27that because
26:28I am
26:28ye or
26:29I am
26:29whoever else
26:30the person
26:30might be
26:31and people
26:31looking at
26:32me like
26:33a Johansi
26:34are going
26:35to come
26:35now and
26:36say hey
26:36I could do
26:37that, I
26:38could wear
26:38that, I
26:38want to be
26:39like ye.
26:40to be like
26:43him, may
26:44not be like
26:44him in
26:45terms of
26:45what he
26:47wears versus
26:48the courage
26:49to be
26:51aside.
26:54Kanye's
26:55originality
26:56is what
26:56sets him
26:57as cool.
26:58His madness
26:58is a different
26:59thing, his
26:59bipolar business
27:00is a different
27:00but his
27:01originality is
27:02his cool
27:02factor.
27:02He don't
27:03give a
27:03f*** about
27:04what people
27:04think about
27:05what he
27:05do.
27:05Even the
27:06beats,
27:06right?
27:07Some of
27:07his beats
27:08are even
27:08off-key
27:09but off-key
27:11in time
27:11if you
27:11understand
27:12what I
27:12say.
27:12So he
27:13does things
27:14differently
27:15just like
27:15anybody,
27:16anybody,
27:17we could
27:17say,
27:18I like
27:19Cristiano
27:21Ronaldo,
27:22right?
27:22Because as
27:24a footballer,
27:24as a
27:26footballer,
27:27he goes
27:27beyond
27:28football.
27:29He
27:29has an
27:29individual
27:30style.
27:30When he
27:30comes,
27:31when he
27:31feels he
27:31always wants
27:32to look
27:32pretty,
27:33he put
27:34together,
27:34even now
27:35as a,
27:35I don't
27:35know,
27:36he's
27:36almost
27:3640 now,
27:38right?
27:3838,
27:39right?
27:39He's
27:39almost
27:4040.
27:40But he
27:41wants to
27:43keep a
27:43certain
27:43look,
27:44right?
27:44Versus
27:45compared to
27:46some other
27:46footballers.
27:47So he
27:47stands out
27:48and he's
27:49different,
27:49but at
27:49first,
27:50people used
27:50to say,
27:51he's too
27:51hard,
27:52he's too
27:52rigid,
27:52he's too
27:53thin,
27:53he's too
27:53whatever,
27:53but now
27:54it becomes
27:55something
27:56cool.
27:56So I
27:57just gave
27:57an example
27:58that,
27:59and I'm
27:59going back
27:59to the
27:59point,
28:00as men,
28:01right,
28:01and I
28:01think as
28:02men,
28:02we should
28:02be sure
28:04of ourselves,
28:05right?
28:05I mean,
28:06we may not be
28:07perfect because
28:07there are some
28:08situations where
28:08we may be
28:09insecure,
28:10et cetera,
28:10but for the
28:10most part,
28:11to be sure
28:11of ourselves,
28:12and part of
28:13being sure
28:13of ourselves
28:13is managing
28:14the emotion,
28:15so we talk
28:15about keeping
28:16your cool
28:17in certain
28:18situations,
28:18but also,
28:19as a man,
28:20if you have
28:20your own
28:21personal style,
28:22right?
28:23Just now I
28:24see you put
28:24your glasses
28:25in the
28:25glasses
28:25case,
28:26and his
28:26glasses
28:27case light
28:27up,
28:27right?
28:29I never
28:29even see
28:30that before.
28:30Show them,
28:30let's see,
28:32let's see,
28:32because we
28:32can't be
28:33too old.
28:33I don't
28:33know why
28:34it lights
28:35up,
28:35but I
28:36just thought
28:37that's
28:37cool,
28:38so somebody
28:40might say
28:40wait,
28:41now it's
28:41a glasses
28:41case,
28:41he's trying
28:42too hard,
28:43but again,
28:44it's perception,
28:45but I like
28:45it,
28:46and it's
28:46different.
28:47But I
28:48want to
28:48come back
28:49just for
28:4930 seconds
28:51about
28:51you,
28:52right?
28:52I like
28:53some of
28:55his music,
28:55some of
28:56it,
28:56but what
28:57I say
28:57that,
28:59according to
28:59Andre,
29:00he doesn't
29:00give a
29:01peep,
29:01right?
29:02And that's
29:02fine,
29:03but I
29:04think that
29:04that not
29:05giving a
29:05crap is
29:06also adjusted
29:08to the
29:09stardom.
29:10So he
29:10knows in
29:11the not
29:12giving a
29:12crap,
29:13a lot of
29:14people are
29:14going to
29:15agree with
29:15him and
29:15find that
29:16aspect of
29:17him cool,
29:18but if you
29:18take away
29:19who he
29:20is,
29:21back in
29:21the day
29:21when he
29:22was still
29:22in Dave
29:24Chappelle
29:24or Jamie
29:25Foxx or
29:26any of
29:26these
29:26people
29:27room still
29:27trying to
29:28give a
29:28beat,
29:30is he
29:30still going
29:31to be
29:31pushing
29:32that whole
29:32I don't
29:33give a
29:33crap
29:33thing?
29:36Without
29:36knowing
29:37Kanye West
29:37personally,
29:38I would
29:38say yes,
29:39because to
29:39even reach
29:41in a room
29:41with certain
29:42people,
29:42I don't
29:43care about
29:43where I
29:44come from.
29:44You still
29:44care.
29:45I don't
29:47care about
29:47where I
29:47come from.
29:48I don't
29:48care my
29:48status.
29:50I want
29:50to be
29:50the greatest.
29:51I don't
29:51care about
29:52what I'm
29:54trying to
29:55say,
29:55the not
29:55caring is
29:56still caring
29:57about
29:57something.
29:58Might
29:58mean that,
29:59but you
30:00still care
30:00about
30:00something.
30:01Right.
30:02We
30:02are a
30:03bit
30:03semantic,
30:03which is
30:04fine.
30:05Kanye West,
30:09if you're
30:10watching this,
30:11Robert
30:12Dumas has
30:13something
30:13against
30:13him.
30:13He's not
30:14cool with
30:15it.
30:16I don't
30:16have
30:16anything
30:17against him.
30:17But you
30:17wear a
30:19black
30:19cloth over
30:20your face
30:20and you
30:20behave a
30:21particular way.
30:22I have no
30:23judgment on
30:24him.
30:24just to
30:25get
30:25attention,
30:26to have
30:27the paparazzi
30:28follow him,
30:30for him to
30:30fill up the
30:31tabloids with
30:33all sorts of
30:34information.
30:35As I said,
30:37his approach
30:38is his
30:39approach,
30:40but for me,
30:41I will never
30:41want to
30:42dress and
30:43to have his
30:44sense of
30:44style.
30:45I want
30:45sneakers,
30:46though.
30:46I want
30:47Yeezys or
30:48whatever you
30:48call it.
30:49Who in
30:50here has
30:51never had
30:51a Yee
30:53moment?
30:55The man
30:55of his own
30:55thing.
30:56I've had a
30:57Yee moment
30:57several times.
30:59Nobody
31:00fighting at
31:00the door.
31:03When you
31:03step out
31:05of yourself
31:06and you
31:07had no
31:07idea what
31:07you did,
31:08but after
31:09you check
31:09yourself,
31:09you realize,
31:10I should
31:11have not
31:11done that.
31:14I think
31:15we all
31:15had that
31:15moment.
31:16You did
31:17something you
31:17shouldn't
31:17have do,
31:18but in the
31:18heat of the
31:18moment,
31:19you just
31:19did it
31:19anyway
31:20because
31:20there's
31:20acting
31:20and
31:20emotions
31:21and
31:21then
31:21later
31:21on
31:22they
31:22say,
31:22I beeped
31:23out.
31:24There's
31:25a thing
31:25before we
31:25go to
31:26the
31:26break
31:26in
31:26marketing,
31:27right?
31:27The
31:28haters
31:28watch
31:28too.
31:30And
31:30celebrities
31:31also
31:32understand
31:33that,
31:33hey,
31:34I might
31:35have
31:3550 million
31:36followers,
31:3720 million
31:38might be
31:39following me
31:40just to
31:41hate on
31:42me.
31:43But the
31:43marketers
31:44and when
31:44they put
31:45out a
31:45product,
31:46all 50
31:47watch in.
31:48So they
31:49welcome
31:49haters.
31:50So in
31:50the not
31:51giving a
31:52crap and
31:52all the
31:52behavior,
31:53you get
31:54that
31:54attention.
31:55You still
31:55get people
31:56watching,
31:56whether they're
31:57for you or
31:58against you,
31:58they're watching.
31:59And ultimately,
32:00that's what's
32:01important in
32:02terms of in
32:03that marketing.
32:03And just to
32:05bring it back
32:05before we go
32:06to the
32:06break,
32:06I just
32:06think being
32:07cool,
32:08you cannot
32:11say that
32:12you are
32:12truly cool
32:13if someone
32:14does not
32:15look at
32:16you and
32:17want to
32:18exhibit and
32:19be like
32:20you in
32:20some form
32:21or fashion.
32:22It's like,
32:23yeah,
32:23boy,
32:25yeah,
32:25that will
32:26pick your
32:26interest in
32:27some form
32:27or fashion,
32:28whether it's
32:28your sense
32:29of style,
32:30whether it's
32:31how you
32:31handle yourself
32:33under pressure,
32:33how you
32:34deal with
32:34people,
32:35right?
32:36You have
32:38to be
32:38attractive to
32:40other people
32:41based on your
32:42lifestyle.
32:43You can't
32:43title yourself
32:44as cool.
32:44Other people
32:45have to
32:45determine that
32:46you are
32:47cool and
32:47by that,
32:47they have
32:48to want to
32:48be like
32:50you.
32:52Or,
32:53let me
32:53finish my
32:54point,
32:54or,
32:55because that
32:55is not
32:55cool,
32:56right?
32:56But you
32:57can take a
32:57drink of
32:57that if
32:58you want,
32:58because that
32:58is cool
32:59if you
32:59take a
32:59drink of
33:00the
33:00it is
33:02not
33:02cool,
33:03you're
33:03not
33:03cool,
33:04or it
33:04is not
33:05cool if
33:05somebody's
33:06offended,
33:07or if
33:08they don't
33:08want to
33:08be like
33:08you.
33:09Because you
33:09can't say,
33:10hey,
33:10I am
33:10cool.
33:11Yeah.
33:12But in
33:14speaking your
33:15truth and
33:16being honest,
33:17sometimes somebody
33:18may take
33:18offense,
33:20and at that
33:20moment they
33:21may not
33:21view you
33:22as cool.
33:23But in
33:24retrospect and
33:26looking in
33:27the future,
33:28Holistically
33:29they'll find
33:29so.
33:29they'll find
33:30so at the
33:30long run.
33:30I agree
33:31with you.
33:32So you
33:32still want to
33:33be cool?
33:34Because you
33:34said you
33:35don't want to
33:35be cool.
33:35Men,
33:36men,
33:36men,
33:36a true
33:37man should
33:38not be
33:39defined as
33:39cool.
33:40You heard it
33:40from Ken,
33:41he don't want
33:42to be cool.
33:42And your
33:43heart is
33:43trying to
33:43be cool.
33:44All right,
33:44we're taking
33:45our break.
33:45welcome back
33:58to manhood.
33:59So we're
33:59discussing what
34:00it means to
34:01be cool.
34:02And we first
34:02started off
34:03defining if
34:04cool is our
34:05look, if
34:05cool is our
34:06feeling.
34:07And then we
34:07went into
34:08whether it's
34:09cool to be
34:10a man,
34:10what the
34:11coolness means
34:12to be a
34:12man.
34:12And we
34:12have Ken
34:13saying as
34:13a man,
34:14he don't
34:14even want
34:15to be
34:15considered
34:15cool.
34:16But as
34:17we're going
34:18into this
34:18segment now,
34:19we're getting
34:20a better
34:20understanding.
34:21And for
34:21you all to
34:21leave with
34:22a definition
34:23or even
34:24closer
34:24definition
34:25from each
34:25person,
34:26what exactly
34:27is cool?
34:28Because as
34:28I was saying
34:29before,
34:29cool is a
34:30word that's
34:31a slang.
34:32And when
34:32it's a slang,
34:33it's subject
34:34to culture,
34:35it's subject
34:35to meaning,
34:36it's subject
34:36to interpretation.
34:38So we're
34:38still trying
34:40to understand
34:41and putting
34:41effort into
34:42understanding.
34:42what exactly
34:43cool is.
34:44And just
34:46to touch
34:46there,
34:46Johanse,
34:47it's not
34:47just a
34:48matter of
34:48any
34:49understanding
34:50of what
34:50it means
34:51to be
34:51cool,
34:51it's also
34:52for persons
34:53to also
34:54address
34:55some of
34:57the
34:57ramifications
34:59of being
35:00cool or
35:01trying to
35:02be cool
35:02or being
35:03seen as
35:03cool or
35:04people who
35:04are behaving
35:05cool,
35:05how you
35:06can go
35:06from zero
35:06to a hundred.
35:07Because
35:08ultimately,
35:09when we bring
35:09up topics
35:10like this
35:10on manhood,
35:11it's to
35:12address our
35:13behaviors and
35:14for us to
35:15see ourselves
35:16or to see
35:16other people
35:17have a better
35:18understanding so
35:19that we
35:19ourselves can
35:20be better.
35:21Notice I'm not
35:21saying cool,
35:22we can be
35:23better.
35:23Because that's
35:24what we want
35:24to do,
35:24we always want
35:25to strive
35:25to be
35:26better.
35:26Better as
35:27men.
35:27Better as
35:27men,
35:28better as
35:28brothers.
35:29And a lot
35:30of times you
35:31see people
35:31going out to
35:32be cool,
35:33and you
35:33mentioned it
35:34Andre,
35:34where there's
35:36cool and
35:36there's trying
35:37to be cool.
35:38And if you
35:38are not
35:38through and
35:40through at
35:41that point
35:41of whatever
35:42that stage
35:43of coolness
35:44is,
35:44if that
35:44level of
35:45coolness
35:46is,
35:46you know,
35:47I am not
35:47going to
35:48raise my
35:49voice,
35:50or I'm not
35:50going to
35:51shout,
35:51or I'm not
35:51going to
35:52get aggressive
35:52in a party
35:53or an event
35:54or in a
35:55dinner setting
35:55or in a
35:56family gathering,
35:57then you
35:59have to
35:59maintain that.
36:00But if you're
36:01not at peace
36:01with that,
36:02and you go
36:03out in a
36:04party,
36:04and you're
36:05there doing
36:06all the
36:07proverbial
36:08cool things,
36:11and someone
36:12comes up,
36:13pigeon come
36:14and crap on
36:14your head,
36:15or somebody
36:15throw water
36:16or open a
36:17bottle or
36:17somebody run
36:17into you,
36:19how are you
36:19then behaving?
36:20You could go
36:20from zero
36:21at that point
36:21to irate,
36:24to rage,
36:25to want to
36:25fight.
36:25So from
36:26cool to
36:27uncool.
36:28Perceived
36:28uncool,
36:29you know,
36:30because it's
36:31not really in
36:32you to just
36:33turn the
36:33other cheek
36:34at that
36:34point.
36:35You've
36:35come in
36:36there trying
36:36to be
36:37something,
36:38and if
36:38you haven't
36:38settled with
36:40that thought,
36:41because you
36:41could try,
36:42but you've
36:43settled with
36:43wanting to
36:44be better,
36:45or you
36:45could be
36:45trying for
36:46other reasons
36:47that aren't
36:47genuine.
36:48Right,
36:49so you
36:50said wanting
36:51to be
36:51better,
36:51and nothing
36:52is wrong
36:52with that.
36:53We want
36:53to belong
36:55to somewhere,
36:57to a group
36:58of people,
36:59to a tribe,
37:00so in
37:01our pursuit
37:02of wanting
37:03to belong,
37:03for one
37:04reason or
37:05the other.
37:05We didn't
37:06feel that way
37:07growing up.
37:08We felt
37:08outside,
37:10and we
37:11want our
37:11life to
37:11mean something
37:12in an
37:13attempt to
37:14try to
37:15fit in.
37:15We wouldn't
37:16say cool,
37:16but we want
37:17to fit in.
37:18We want
37:18to be
37:18accepted,
37:19so we
37:20tend to
37:20want to
37:21do things
37:22that we
37:22think that
37:23people will
37:23accept us
37:24if we
37:25do it.
37:26So nothing
37:27is wrong
37:27with trying
37:28to better
37:30yourself or
37:31wanting to
37:31be a tribe,
37:32but when
37:32you deny
37:35yourself how
37:37you feel
37:38deep down
37:38inside for
37:40the sake of
37:41trying to
37:42connect with
37:42a tribe,
37:43you lose
37:44yourself trying
37:44to find
37:45yourself,
37:46if that is
37:47even possible.
37:49And guys,
37:49I also want
37:50to talk
37:50about,
37:51as you
37:53said,
37:53about fitting
37:54in and
37:54being part
37:54of a
37:55tribe.
37:55All of
37:56these things,
37:57Ken,
37:57I really
37:57appreciate,
37:58and it
37:58comes down
37:59to also
38:00in having
38:02the discussion
38:03about the
38:03topic initially
38:04for this
38:04particular
38:05conversation
38:05here on
38:06manhood,
38:07it was
38:07also,
38:07is being
38:08a bad
38:09man or
38:10a bad
38:10boy
38:10considered
38:12cool?
38:14It's
38:15trying to
38:16be that
38:16when you
38:16out and
38:17you know.
38:18What do
38:18you define
38:19as bad
38:21boy?
38:22Is it
38:22that,
38:23if you
38:24are causing
38:25harm and
38:26distress for
38:27your personal
38:27gain,
38:28that could
38:28never be
38:29cool.
38:30So that
38:31could never
38:31be cool.
38:31You could
38:32be determined
38:33as a
38:36bad boy,
38:36a little
38:36rough around
38:37the edges,
38:38and then
38:39it all
38:40depends on
38:40the perception
38:42and who
38:42looks at
38:42you.
38:43There are
38:43some ladies
38:43who just
38:44love that,
38:45to say,
38:45hey,
38:46you know,
38:48it's
38:49gone man
38:49or nothing.
38:51And they
38:51think that's
38:52cool.
38:53But generally,
38:55if you
38:56are for
38:57fairness
38:59and justice
39:00and not
39:01harming
39:03other people
39:04at their
39:06expense,
39:07that could
39:08never be
39:08defined as
39:08cool.
39:09And bad
39:09man,
39:10bad man
39:10by,
39:11by,
39:13what I
39:13was
39:13correlating
39:17to cool
39:17is,
39:19was more
39:20of a,
39:21someone who
39:21plays,
39:22like a
39:22player.
39:24Oh,
39:25okay,
39:25okay.
39:26That's
39:27different,
39:27enough.
39:28A player
39:29and a rude
39:31boy,
39:31bad boy,
39:32it's two
39:32different things,
39:33right?
39:33So,
39:34again,
39:35no,
39:36I wouldn't
39:37say that
39:38a man
39:39who is
39:41known as
39:41waving his
39:42one all
39:42over the
39:42place,
39:43have
39:44multiple
39:44sexual
39:45partners,
39:46and
39:47children,
39:49could not,
39:50in my
39:50mind,
39:52could be
39:53regarded as
39:53cool.
39:53You can't
39:54be cool,
39:55because again,
39:55you're selfish,
39:56and you can't
39:57be cool if
39:58you're selfish.
39:59And I
39:59want to,
40:00let me,
40:01let me kind
40:03of define a
40:04little bit when
40:04I say I
40:05don't want to
40:05be regarded as
40:06cool,
40:06because people
40:07could misinterpret
40:08that,
40:08and I don't,
40:08I don't need
40:09to explain
40:10myself,
40:11but for those
40:11in the back
40:12who probably
40:13don't understand
40:13what I say,
40:14when you are
40:16cool,
40:17you are
40:18lukewarm,
40:18I think it
40:18was said,
40:19you need a
40:19hot,
40:20no cold,
40:21and as
40:22a man,
40:24for you
40:25to be on
40:26the fence,
40:27is not
40:29a good
40:29look,
40:30right?
40:31And
40:32realistically,
40:35there are
40:35times that
40:36you have
40:36to make
40:37decisions,
40:38as I said
40:38previously,
40:39that will
40:40cause for
40:40you to
40:41lift your
40:41voice and
40:42say,
40:42hey,
40:42and be
40:42stern,
40:43no,
40:44don't do
40:44that,
40:45I have
40:45to tell
40:45you as
40:45it is,
40:46so and
40:46so and
40:46so,
40:47right?
40:48And again,
40:49we don't
40:50equate that
40:51type of
40:52behavior as
40:52being cool,
40:54you know,
40:54and Andrea
40:54rightly said
40:55it,
40:55I mean,
40:55he said
40:56there are
40:56times that,
40:56yo,
40:56nothing
40:57wrong,
40:58there's a
40:58time under
40:58the sun
40:59for everything,
40:59a time to
41:00laugh,
41:00a time to
41:00cry,
41:01a time to
41:01be angry,
41:02a time to
41:03be sad,
41:05so that's
41:05why I don't
41:06want to be
41:06regarded as
41:07being cool,
41:08I'm a man,
41:09and if you
41:10check out
41:11statistically,
41:12every highly
41:13successful man,
41:15right,
41:16would not be
41:17regarded as
41:18cool,
41:19but you
41:21don't have
41:22to be cool,
41:23but you
41:23could be
41:24humble,
41:24you don't
41:26have to
41:27be cool,
41:28but you
41:28could be
41:28humble with
41:29it,
41:29and humility
41:30is a
41:30state of
41:31mind.
41:32Andrea,
41:33see you
41:33there,
41:33good,
41:34good.
41:35It's so
41:35many layers,
41:36it's so
41:36many layers,
41:37how does
41:37the saying
41:39go,
41:40good guys
41:40finish last?
41:42No,
41:42nice guys.
41:43Nice guys
41:43finish last,
41:44right,
41:44so I
41:45want to
41:45use that
41:46analogy
41:46because when
41:47we were
41:48younger in
41:49school,
41:50the bad
41:50boys,
41:52the sweet
41:54man,
41:55the image,
41:57they was
41:57getting all
41:58the girls,
41:58they were
41:59cool at
42:00the time,
42:00and the
42:01nerds,
42:02or the
42:02whoever he
42:03was calling
42:03himself,
42:04was getting
42:04nothing,
42:05and then I
42:06watched that
42:07flip in
42:08the 20s
42:08and 30s
42:09where you're
42:09watching the
42:10bad boys
42:10from school
42:11now,
42:12sprangers,
42:13don't have no
42:13good job,
42:14wayward,
42:15have nothing
42:16going for
42:16them,
42:16and they're
42:16watching the
42:17nerds,
42:18you know,
42:19become the
42:20cool men,
42:21were the
42:22hottest girls,
42:23wife now,
42:24good jobs,
42:26they became
42:26cool,
42:27and I was
42:27saying,
42:27yo,
42:28look at these
42:28men that I
42:28watched from
42:29school saying,
42:30them was me,
42:31and we were
42:32the nerds,
42:32and now we
42:32went in,
42:33we went in,
42:33the cool,
42:34the now cool,
42:35so it flipped,
42:36and so that's
42:37what you're
42:37saying,
42:37I like the
42:38fact that you
42:38don't need to
42:39be humble and
42:40all that,
42:40like everything
42:41that was cool
42:42at one age,
42:43then become
42:43cool at the
42:44next sector
42:45of your life,
42:45right?
42:45So if you're
42:46making deals,
42:48as a man,
42:49if you're going
42:50into a room
42:52with businessmen
42:54and women,
42:55and you have
42:55to make deals
42:57and negotiate,
42:58you know,
42:58sometimes you have
42:59to speak up,
43:00you have to do
43:00certain things,
43:01so coolness
43:01is not a matter
43:03of being passive
43:05and laid back,
43:06because there are
43:06times that we
43:07will interchange
43:08and we will
43:08move,
43:09so that's why
43:09I say I don't
43:10want,
43:10for me,
43:11don't say
43:11Ken is cool,
43:12Ken is a man
43:13and Ken is
43:14true to what
43:14he believes.
43:15I want people
43:16to say,
43:16Dre,
43:16you're cool.
43:18I like when
43:19people say,
43:19that man's cool,
43:20he's cool.
43:21So,
43:21I love how
43:24we can
43:24intellectualize
43:25the word cool
43:26and that's
43:27important because
43:29as men,
43:30we all are
43:31different men
43:32and we speak
43:32into different
43:33men and each
43:34person may have
43:35a different
43:35definition and
43:36we're not
43:37trying to tell
43:37you exactly how
43:38to be cool
43:39or what
43:39exactly cool
43:40we have
43:40in our
43:41conversation
43:41so that
43:42you could
43:42interpret,
43:44take pieces
43:44from us
43:45and even
43:45create your
43:46own cool.
43:48And I love
43:48it because
43:49I agree
43:50with a lot
43:51of what Ken
43:52is saying
43:52and disagree.
43:54I agree
43:54with a lot
43:55of his
43:55and disagree
43:56and so forth
43:56and so on
43:56and that's
43:57what we're
43:57here for
43:57and I
43:58think the
43:58ability
43:59to be
44:02yourself
44:03amongst
44:04a world
44:05of social
44:06media
44:07that's coming
44:07at you
44:08people who
44:08come in
44:08at you
44:09to be
44:09different
44:09to be
44:10the same
44:11sorry
44:11or to be
44:12something
44:12that you
44:13are not
44:13the ability
44:14to remain
44:16yourself
44:16for me
44:17I think
44:18that's what
44:18the coolness
44:19is because
44:20I was looking
44:21at everybody's
44:21style
44:22everybody have
44:22their own
44:22sense of
44:23style
44:23but it
44:25fits
44:25so I
44:26say
44:26Ken
44:27looking
44:27cool
44:27you looking
44:28cool
44:28especially
44:29with our
44:29glasses
44:30right
44:30and Robert
44:32have his
44:32unique style
44:32and that's
44:33cool
44:34and I
44:34like that
44:35because
44:35for me
44:36my style
44:36right now
44:37is whatever
44:37fits
44:38and whatever
44:38I have
44:38at the
44:38time
44:39so
44:40it might
44:42mean
44:42what
44:42next
44:42I might
44:44want to
44:44flex
44:44a Gucci
44:45it's still
44:47because
44:47the way
44:48you carry
44:49it
44:49is cool
44:51the way
44:51you carry
44:52it
44:52is you
44:53right
44:54and
44:54I
44:55enjoy
44:56this
44:57and men
44:58don't try
44:59to be
45:00cool
45:00meaning
45:00you're
45:00trying
45:00to be
45:01somebody
45:01else
45:02but
45:02find
45:03what is
45:03your
45:03cool
45:04yeah
45:04so
45:05what
45:05about
45:05I
45:06wanted
45:07to
45:07I
45:07just
45:08want
45:08because
45:08I'm
45:08conscious
45:09of
45:09time
45:09and
45:09I
45:09don't
45:10want
45:10us
45:10to
45:10go off
45:11taking
45:12things that
45:13could be in
45:13our nuggets
45:14and in
45:14our wrap
45:15up
45:15so
45:16this
45:16is that
45:17area where
45:17we take
45:18everything
45:18Andre
45:19and we
45:19wrap
45:20it into
45:21a nice
45:21bow
45:22and present
45:23it
45:24in the
45:24present
45:25and present
45:26it in
45:27the way
45:27that we
45:27want to
45:28communicate
45:28what our
45:29intention is
45:30today
45:30and we've
45:32come to
45:32the
45:32understanding
45:33to
45:33what it
45:34means to
45:34be cool
45:35to us
45:35and again
45:36what I
45:37started off
45:38believing
45:39or thinking
45:40I applaud
45:42you and I
45:42thank you
45:42gents
45:43for giving
45:44me once
45:45again
45:45another
45:47perception
45:50another
45:50outlook
45:51as to
45:51what it
45:52is
45:52so
45:52I'm
45:53going to
45:54start off
45:54with regards
45:55to the
45:55nuggets
45:55because
45:56Ken I
45:58didn't
45:58think
45:58when you
45:58mentioned
45:59it
45:59I
45:59would
45:59agree
46:00with
46:00it
46:00initially
46:01about
46:01I
46:01don't
46:01want
46:01to
46:01be
46:02cool
46:02and I
46:04want to
46:05contextualize
46:05that to
46:06say first
46:06that being
46:08cool
46:09in my
46:10opinion
46:11or cool
46:11by the
46:12definition
46:12is also
46:13comforting
46:14when something
46:15is at a
46:15cool
46:15temperature
46:16it is
46:16related to
46:17because
46:18someone else
46:19is cool
46:19might be
46:20someone else
46:21is hot
46:21or someone
46:22else is
46:23cold
46:23so when
46:24normally
46:24somebody
46:25says
46:26something
46:26is cool
46:27it is
46:27at a
46:27temperature
46:28that they
46:28are comfortable
46:29at
46:29and it is
46:30pleasant
46:31and I
46:33would like
46:34to say
46:34that to
46:35be cool
46:35is to
46:36be genuine
46:37to be
46:38true to
46:39yourself
46:39and
46:40by once
46:42you are
46:42genuine
46:42and that is
46:43coming from
46:43a good
46:44place
46:44because I
46:45don't think
46:45inherently
46:46anybody
46:46wants to
46:47be bad
46:48right
46:49and once
46:50it is
46:50coming from
46:51a good
46:51place
46:51then that
46:52would
46:52exude
46:52to others
46:53and others
46:53would then
46:54feel
46:54feed off
46:56of that
46:56energy
46:56feed off
46:57of that
46:57spirit
46:58and those
46:58that are
46:59not
46:59once you are
46:59coming from
47:00a good
47:00place
47:00you don't
47:01want them
47:01there
47:01around you
47:03in the
47:03first place
47:04you want to
47:04cut those
47:05ties
47:05move on
47:06to another
47:06chapter
47:07in your
47:07life
47:07and so
47:09I would
47:10say that
47:10do I
47:11want to
47:12be cool
47:12do I
47:13want to
47:13be liked
47:14ultimately
47:15I would
47:15be lying
47:16if I
47:16told you
47:16no
47:17what I
47:18want to
47:18do is
47:19be the
47:19best
47:20person
47:20that I
47:21can be
47:21and to
47:22make sure
47:22that I
47:22leave a
47:23room
47:23better than
47:24I found
47:25it
47:25and to
47:26know that
47:26I've left
47:27people with
47:28a positive
47:28impact
47:29and therefore
47:30doing that
47:30in itself
47:31is positive
47:32for myself
47:32and I'll
47:33feel good
47:33about myself
47:34and I would
47:34feel cool
47:35from what
47:39you're saying
47:40I don't
47:40think
47:40for me
47:41personally
47:41I don't
47:43want to
47:43be regarded
47:44as cool
47:44I don't
47:45want anybody
47:45to think
47:46I'm cool
47:46but I
47:47want to
47:48be cool
47:48and let me
47:48explain what
47:49I mean
47:49especially
47:50pulling from
47:51everybody
47:51because it
47:51gave me a
47:52different
47:52perspective
47:53as a
47:54man
47:55I want
47:55to be
47:56able
47:56to
47:56adapt
47:58and adopt
47:59to any
47:59situation
48:00and be
48:01myself
48:01and remain
48:02authentic
48:03and to
48:04me
48:04not necessarily
48:05if somebody
48:06define me
48:06as that
48:07but for me
48:08is I want
48:08to be cool
48:09so if
48:10if I have
48:11let's say
48:11let's go
48:12all scenarios
48:13as a man
48:13I have to
48:14take care of
48:15let's say
48:15I have a
48:16sick relative
48:16and I have to
48:17do that
48:17right
48:18I want to
48:18be cool
48:19enough
48:19to make
48:21sure
48:21and do
48:22that
48:22if
48:22with
48:23children
48:24I want
48:24to be
48:24cool
48:24enough
48:25to deal
48:25with that
48:25if I
48:26get
48:27two
48:27million
48:28dollars
48:28I want
48:29to be
48:29cool
48:29enough
48:30to be
48:30able to
48:30manage
48:30it
48:30well
48:31if I
48:31have
48:31two
48:31dollars
48:32I want
48:32to be
48:32cool
48:33enough
48:33to be
48:33able
48:34to manage
48:34it
48:34well
48:34so cool
48:35for me
48:35is my
48:36definition
48:36of being
48:37able
48:37to adapt
48:38and keep
48:39that cool
48:39no matter
48:40what the
48:40scenarios
48:41but I
48:42don't really
48:42matter to me
48:43if people
48:44think that
48:44I am
48:45cool
48:45yeah
48:46I'm going
48:48to piggyback
48:48on that
48:48your answer
48:49because
48:49being cool
48:51again
48:52just be
48:53original
48:53be a hundred
48:54percent
48:55authentic
48:56be yourself
48:57and
48:58I could
48:59say that
49:00from me
49:00right
49:01because
49:01when it
49:04comes to
49:04women
49:04people say
49:05where's
49:06your
49:06game
49:06I say
49:06my game
49:07is having
49:07no game
49:08I have
49:08no game
49:09but that's
49:09my game
49:10but that's
49:11me being
49:12myself
49:12hey you're
49:13cool
49:13what is
49:14about you
49:14I'm a
49:15nerd
49:15so I'm
49:16a cool
49:17nerd
49:17or am I
49:18just
49:18a cool
49:19person
49:19you take
49:20it
49:20how you
49:20want
49:21it
49:21if I
49:21nerd
49:21it
49:21to
49:21you
49:22I'm
49:23that
49:23if I'm
49:23the coolest
49:24cat
49:25in the
49:25room
49:25I'm
49:26that
49:26so
49:27be
49:27best
49:27be
49:28you
49:28be
49:28100%
49:29original
49:29don't
49:29try to
49:30copy
49:31or be
49:31someone
49:32else
49:32there'll
49:32be a
49:33carbon
49:33copy
49:33and
49:34one last
49:35message
49:35my name
49:36is
49:36Andre
49:36Chukwan
49:37and
49:37I am
49:38not
49:38cool
49:38but yet
49:39I'm
49:39cool
49:40what a
49:43healthy
49:44discussion
49:44you know
49:45wanting
49:48to be
49:49cool
49:49could be
49:49regarded
49:50as
49:50wanting
49:51to be
49:51loved
49:51or liked
49:52or accepted
49:53and I
49:54think
49:55everybody
49:55deep down
49:56if they're
49:56honest with
49:57themselves
49:57they want
49:58to be
49:58accepted
49:58but the
49:59reality is
50:00not everybody
50:01is going
50:01to like
50:01us
50:01not everybody
50:02is going
50:02to accept
50:03us
50:03that is
50:04why I
50:04said
50:04only
50:04regarded
50:05to be
50:05as cool
50:05because
50:06not everybody
50:08will regard
50:09me as
50:10cool
50:10right
50:11some
50:12people
50:12may
50:13say
50:14boy
50:14some
50:15people
50:15say
50:15boy
50:15Ken
50:15real
50:16cool
50:16and
50:17say
50:18Ken
50:18is
50:18people's
50:20opinion
50:21but I
50:22think
50:23what we
50:25came out
50:26of the
50:26discussion
50:27is that
50:27once
50:28you are
50:29true to
50:30yourself
50:30and
50:31stick
50:32to
50:32your
50:33principles
50:33and
50:33your
50:33values
50:34is
50:36what
50:37will
50:38cause
50:38you
50:38to
50:38be
50:39as
50:39supposed
50:40to
50:40do
50:40and
50:42out
50:42of
50:42being
50:42will
50:43come
50:44everything
50:44else
50:44once
50:45you regard
50:47humanity
50:48the people
50:48around
50:48you
50:49more
50:49than
50:50yourself
50:50once
50:50you are
50:51not
50:51selfish
50:52in
50:52nature
50:53automatically
50:55you are
50:56going to
50:57find what
50:57you are
50:57looking
50:57for
50:58things
50:59that
50:59we seek
51:00to
51:01pursue
51:01sometimes
51:02it evades
51:03us
51:03but in
51:04being
51:05we gain
51:07what we
51:09desire
51:09so I
51:10say that
51:11let's
51:11be
51:12as
51:13supposed
51:13to
51:13pursue
51:14and
51:14let's
51:14consider
51:15others
51:15more
51:15than
51:15ourselves
51:16be
51:17true
51:17to
51:17ourselves
51:18and
51:18in
51:19results
51:19we're
51:20going
51:20to
51:20find
51:20what
51:21we're
51:21looking
51:21for
51:21and
51:22not
51:22be
51:22cool
51:22as
51:23a
51:23man
51:23but
51:25be
51:25authentically
51:26yourself
51:27be
51:28you
51:28thank
51:29you
51:29Ken
51:30well
51:30said
51:31well
51:31received
51:33Johanse
51:35Andre
51:35Ken
51:37always
51:37a
51:37pleasure
51:37we
51:38look
51:38forward
51:38to
51:38so
51:39many
51:39more
51:39of
51:39these
51:39conversations
51:40and
51:41the
51:41wrap
51:41up
51:41to
51:41that
51:42is
51:42be
51:42you
51:42be
51:43true
51:43and
51:44if
51:44that's
51:44being
51:44cool
51:45then
51:45cool
51:46this show
51:48is so
51:48cool
51:49manhood
51:56brought
51:57to you
51:57in part
51:57by
51:58reboot
51:58sports
51:58drink