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DOUGLAS MURRAY’S JRE CLASH: How his debate exposed the Left’s censorship playbook. 💥🗣️
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00:00The crossing points.
00:01I really resent that form of argumentation.
00:03When were you last there at all?
00:05Sure.
00:06I really resent it.
00:07You should at least do the courtesy of visiting it.
00:09This is not an attractive invitation.
00:11I think it's a good idea to see stuff, particularly if you spend a career talking about something.
00:15I have the right to talk about whatever the hell I want.
00:17And no one's going to stop me or try to intimidate me.
00:20And I think that if I said to somebody else the other way around, it would be equally reprehensible.
00:25I have a journalistic rule of trying never to talk about a country, even in passing, unless I've at least been there.
00:30If I said, shut up, you have no right to criticize anything that Douglas Murray says because...
00:34Hang on, you're talking about crossing points.
00:36And not only have you never been to a crossing point in either Egypt or in Israel, but you've never even been to the region.
00:41Okay.
00:42It's not an exact comparison, but seriously, is that a reasonable form of argument?
00:47No.
00:48In that case, nobody can talk about anything.
00:51We might as well pack up, go home and isolate ourselves.
00:54If you're insisting that you're an expert of some kind, or not claiming you're an expert,
00:59but still talking about it, if you've never seen any of this going on.
01:04I mean, there are some people who've written about the...
01:06I mean, there are people who've written about the Holocaust who didn't experience the Holocaust,
01:09and have written about it better than people who did.
01:12But that is a different matter from spending an awfully long amount of time talking about an issue in a region you haven't even had the courtesy to visit,
01:26whilst developing all of these views about it.
01:30This idea that the lived experience has to triumph over everything else is not always correct.
01:36You should at least know what it is, what the territory is, what the situation is in the region.
01:40There's an irony to this, but let's skate over the irony.
01:43Unbelievable, man.
01:44And do you think he just kind of impulsively went to that argument because he knew he was getting his ass kicked, or what?
01:49I can't imagine that he wasn't preparing for this. Like, he clearly...
01:53You don't debate Dave Smith without preparing on anything.
01:56And this is apparently the best he could do.
01:58So first of all, how incredibly elitist of him to think that, like, how...
02:03You have to be able to afford to travel all around the world before you're allowed to have an opinion on the world?
02:06Right.
02:07Excuse me, Douglas.
02:08And secondly, Douglas, your trip to Gaza was an IDF propaganda tour sponsored by the IDF,
02:14where they've toured you in to sit in a cute chair and, like, that is not experiencing Gaza.
02:18And there's a very different type of traveling when you go somewhere and experience the local culture
02:22and you live with the locals and you actually meet people and engage with their way of life
02:26versus getting a sponsored tour by some tour guide or by some tourist, you know, or by the IDF themselves.
02:33So that's retarded.
02:35Yeah, like, I went to Hawaii for my honeymoon. I stayed in a very nice hotel.
02:38Yeah.
02:39It was the Four Seasons in Maui. It was just obnoxious how nice it was.
02:42And we went to a hukilao. All of it was on the property.
02:45I don't feel like I've ever really been to Hawaii, like, with the locals.
02:48Mahalo, bro.
02:49You know what I mean? I was there for a week and I was basically in, you know, stateside United States
02:54on one property the whole time and I had different food and I experienced the weather in the ocean
02:58and I did, like, a car ride around and had the banana bread.
03:01But I have no idea what it's like to actually be Hawaiian.
03:04But then there's a second layer of this expert thing that we all know by now.
03:08But it's important to articulate that when you're talking about information expertise, it's not like being an expert sculptor where the sculpting skill is developed over time and it is inherently developed correctly because the sculptures are coming out better and better and better.
03:25With information expertise, you don't necessarily have confirmation that you're on the right track in all of your presumptions and all of your base knowledge unless, like, because sometimes you realize that we had something wrong.
03:37Like, we did not know that there was this giant pedophile ring run by Jeffrey Epstein targeting all of our government officials until he was caught and exposed.
03:44Alex knew.
03:45Alex knew.
03:47So, there are certain suppositions that might have to be rearranged and often there's people that are just wrong about base suppositions about how the world works or about how the financial system works, how the CIA works, how our government works.
03:59And so, if you're an expert all the way to your PhD and you got all this education and all this experience, it does not matter if all of that is based on the supposition that the government is fundamentally not corrupt or based on the supposition that our bureaucrats are fundamentally trying to do what's best for us.
04:17So, there are experts that have a skewed understanding of all of reality despite all the hours they've studied, all the things they've done because they don't understand the basic movers and levers of power in today's world.
04:30And so, I would take the representation of someone that understands things like the CIA, human trafficking, politics, lobbying, all these sort of, like, corruption mechanisms that are kind of base layer to modern, you know, functioning, the modern world,
04:44over someone that has gotten mainstream education for, you know, 20 years and never questioned a thing in their life.
04:50Because we know that the mainstream education system is paid for by all these corrupt systems in order to create worker drones like Douglas Murray.
04:57And so, there's this base layer problem with his expert bias.
05:02And beyond that, the expert bias is sort of inherent to humanity in that when your job is to report on something every day,
05:09the more time you engage in that job, the more incentivized you are to not backtrack your thoughts if you got something wrong or to not rearrange.
05:19So, suppose that Israel is the greatest thing ever and you're on Team Israel all the way.
05:23And then we find out and suppose that we get, like, suppose you needed more evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was at least in some way connected to Israeli intelligence,
05:31more than we already have, when that evidence comes out, you know, when we find out that Israel is running at least in part involved in this massive child trafficking blackmail operation targeting America,
05:43if you're so ensconced in your stance and your expert bias about how geopolitical Middle East works,
05:48that you're not willing to realize that you're about to justify child trafficking and blackmail and exploitation of children,
05:55just to make it so you don't have to change your opinion, that is an inherent expert bias that is in all of us in every small way.
06:02So, everyone on the internet, everyone on X, everyone on air, everyone on TV and radio,
06:06we all have to face that every day and have the humility to realize that you might be wrong about base layer suppositions.
06:12And it doesn't matter how much of an expert you've become because you're going to be wrong if you can't change your mind someday
06:18because we always get new information.
06:20Absolutely. Well, we were talking about this a little bit last night and I mentioned that the real shame of it is that Douglas Murray was trying to make at least one or two really good points.
06:31Yep. And he was such a jerk about the way that he was doing it.
06:34And he did it in such an inconsistent, almost incoherent way that undermined him.
06:40And one of the ones was, his main point, as I interpreted it, I could be mistaken about this, I can't speak for Douglas Murray,
06:46but his main point was, look, the left over the years has downplayed and reduced the crimes of major figures like Lenin or Stalin or Che Guevara, right?
06:59I mean, we see the posters with Che's face. We see the, we see the t-shirts with his face.
07:03And he was like definitely a terrorist, like terrible communist, right?
07:07And he's like, I'm worried. What he's trying to say is, I'm worried that on the right we'll make the same mistake that the left did by turning these people into heroes and being apologists for them.
07:18I'm worried that on the right, there's a movement that is downplaying the things that Hitler or Mussolini did wrong.
07:24And it's going to cause the right to embrace fascism in a way that the left now has totally embraced Marxism.
07:30That's what I interpreted he was trying to say, which is a fairly good point.
07:33Problem was, he was accusing people that aren't doing that of doing that.
07:37And then using this expert, he was using this expert, you know, appeal to authority argument.
07:41So it's like, dude, that's a solid point. But if you make it that way, then no one's going to believe it.
07:45And he actually kind of did himself a disservice by making the point that way.
07:50Absolutely. I mean, there's a fundamental issue when the propaganda tactics of a side, in this case, the pro-Israel side,
07:58is all too often to call just basic, you know, discussion of Israel's government policies like Nazism.
08:04And so if I am suddenly a Hitler supporter just because I have a criticism of Jeffrey Epstein, A, what?
08:12And B, you actually are, you're incentivizing, especially young people, because young people are rebellious,
08:18and they're like, well, fuck, F you, right?
08:20And so you're incentivizing more people to actually just go to that side just to spite you.
08:25And so there's all this kind of conflicting, like, theory in how you actually should be debating that.
08:30But, like, you're right that we shouldn't be becoming the other evil just because this evil, like, you know, there's a middle ground.
08:37It's always impossible to stay in.
08:39But what you're also getting at is the fundamental flaw in Murray's approach to this is if you're an expert.
08:46So journalism is about communication, right?
08:48Just like teaching is, just like conversation is, when you're trying to convince someone of a truth,
08:54I mean, theoretically, journalism is reporting just on facts, but let's be real.
08:57These days, journalism is largely opinion programming.
08:59It's narrative spinning of whatever you believe is the right narrative or whatever you were paid to say is the right narrative.
09:04And so when communication is your job and you're a professional communicator,
09:08which Douglas Murray is theoretically a professional communicator of his ideas,
09:12that job means that you are supposed to understand your audience because communication is not what you're sending out.
09:17Communication is what they are receiving.
09:19You need to be thinking about how your audience is receiving you.
09:22And so if Douglas Murray is not capable of understanding Joe Rogan's audience and understanding that Joe Rogan's entire platform,
09:28the reason why he has the biggest platform in the world is because he doesn't do that shit.
09:32He does not gatekeep.
09:33He doesn't play these stupid, like, games with ideas and censorship and, you know, it's woke in a lot of ways.
09:41And the reason why that platform is the number one is because they don't do it.
09:45And so when Douglas Murray goes on that platform and acts like this stuck up gatekeeper of information,
09:50which contradicts himself in a lot of ways, it just falls completely flat.
09:55And it in itself proves that he's not an expert at what he apparently does.
10:00And he's arguing that Joe Rogan doesn't have enough pro-Israel people on his podcast.
10:04Which, first of all, isn't true.
10:07But it's while Douglas Murray is on his podcast.
10:10Like, you're sitting right there, dude.
10:12Did you know?
10:13Just make the argument.
10:14And I was pleased to see that there was going to be a debate.
10:17I mean, I was very excited for this episode.
10:18Like, it's going to be awesome.
10:19Because the thing I love about Dave Smith is that he's somebody who's critical of Israel without being anti-Semitic,
10:24which is the thing that I appreciate about you, Ian.
10:26You're critical of Israel without being like, the Jews!
10:28You know, you don't talk about the Jewish question using terms of the Jewish question.
10:32You don't talk about international Jewry like some of the more anti-Semitic people in this space do.
10:37You talk about Israel and its widespread globalist corruption in a way that does not just implicitly give everyone the sense
10:44that any time you encounter a Jew in the real world, they're part of this cabal, you know?
10:48And so it's so important that we're capable of having these difficult conversations around sensitive issues
10:56without the gatekeeping and without the censorship.
10:59Like, obviously it's hard for anyone to talk about Hitler without raising an issue, right?
11:09And one of the reasons why they stopped doing studies on IQ, for example,
11:13is because they discovered that the results of the studies had very, very negative implications.
11:20And no psychologist or psychiatrist is willing to do more studies in that field
11:26because they don't want to get pinned as racist when the results of those studies come out.
11:30That's the fact of the matter.
11:31It all happened with the bell curve in the 90s.
11:34I can't remember the author of the book. Very famous.
11:36And so we don't get IQ studies anymore.
11:38Same thing.
11:39There are people, other than independent journalists or podcasters, reinvestigating the nature of World War II
11:45because nobody wants to be pinned as somebody who's a Nazi supporter
11:48because they believe that maybe it was only 2 million instead of 6 million Jews that were killed in the Holocaust,
11:52which is not Holocaust denial and it's not condoning Adolf Hitler.
11:55Like, 2 million is still really bad. 200,000 is still really bad.
11:58Like, it's still a ton of people.
12:00One is still really bad.
12:01One is bad.
12:02Any atrocity is still an atrocity.
12:03And you're perfectly walking this line of how there are two evils here.
12:07And it's kind of like the classic Jedi story.
12:09You cannot use evil to defeat evil because then you become evil.
12:14So in the Jewish issue, you cannot condemn all Jewish people for the actions of some Jewish people
12:21in the exact same way that you wouldn't do that for the Italians and the Italian Mafia.
12:24Yeah.
12:25Or the fact that 7% of the world is white and white people are responsible for every major world war.
12:29It's like, is it because I'm white?
12:31Obviously.
12:32But then Douglas Murray comes on and Douglas Murray becomes the woke left from the right
12:36in order to try to stop what he sees as like this evil woke right thing.
12:40And so all the time in this world, there's always a temptation to take the shortcut of sort of the wrong way,
12:47the low road, right?
12:48Whether that's in discussions of Israel or discussions of communism or just, you know, discussions about discussions.
12:53And you, the unfortunate truth is that you always have to try your best to take the high road,
12:57which means listening to the other side.
12:59It means actually having a discussion.
13:00It means actually engaging with the nuance of a situation, even when it's uncomfortable,
13:05like how many Jews died in the Holocaust, even when it's uncomfortable,
13:08like the Holodomor was a big issue and we never talk about it.
13:12And why don't we?
13:13Right?
13:14So there's, there's all this nuance.
13:15And when you jump to rhetorical divisive tactics,
13:19like calling people Nazis or like trying to shut people down because they're not experts,
13:24like these devices that are not actual engagement, you inherently undermine nuance and try to,
13:30and you're basically an agent of chaos, an agent of evil.
13:33You're pushing conversation towards black and white, towards just the versus mode, right?
13:39Towards this identity politics and woke bullshit.
13:42And so I think it's really telling that the Douglas Murray, like still days later,
13:47everyone on the internet is still talking about it.
13:48And we're still talking about it.
13:49And I hate talking about stuff that happened a few days ago,
13:51because this is a news organization, but it's, it's so relevant and still so happening.
13:54And I couldn't even really stomach to watch the whole episode.
13:56I watched the first hour or so of it.
13:58Did they ever actually get to the point where they directly had a debate on any specific issue?
14:02I haven't watched the whole episode either.
14:03I don't have time for that, honestly.
14:06And I will, I will at some point eventually watch it.
14:09But like, it's, I mean, I have not yet seen a single clip where they actually like,
14:14there are a few where they were debating issues.
14:15But it's just, it's interesting that everyone is giving it so much attention.
14:21And you say like tomorrow's news today.
14:22So it's like annoying to talk about yesterday.
14:24But I would argue that this is tomorrow's news today,
14:27because we are currently passing anti-Semitism speech laws in America.
14:31Yeah.
14:32And the, what they formally termed as non-legally binding guidelines about anti-Semitism
14:38on our government website, State Department's website.
14:42I'm pretty sure it's the State Department.
14:44Those guidelines are explicitly anti-American and explicitly anti-First Amendment.
14:49And they started as just, oh, this is just a definition.
14:53It's not legally binding for anyone.
14:54That's how they do it.
14:55They groomed it.
14:56They literally groom censorship.
14:57And then they're walking it forwards to actually, no,
14:59if you break these rules on college campuses or in any government funded institutions,
15:04suddenly there's criminal liability for the institution.
15:07There's funding that's on the line.
15:08And then it's like, ah, where does that line fricking stop?
15:11Because now we're deporting people that aren't adhering to these guidelines.
15:14This is America.
15:15Right?
15:16Yeah.
15:17It's unbelievable.
15:18And just to put it into perspective,
15:19I would never advocate for it to be illegal to say that all white people are the devil,
15:22even though I totally disagree with that.
15:24Anyway, folks, we'll be right back with more on the other side.
15:26I'm going to ask Ian how he feels about this Methylian Blue so far.
15:28Hey.
15:29I think it's lighting them up like a Christmas tree.
15:31Stay tuned.
15:32Visit thealexjohnestore.com.
15:33Ian, is it better to be the owner of a lonely heart or the owner of a broken heart?
15:37Ooh, good question.
15:40Um, man, maybe a lonely heart.
15:45I agree.
15:46Much better than an owner of a broken heart.
15:49The song right here, owner of a lonely heart, man.
15:51They don't write them like they used to in the 80s.
15:53No, no, no.
15:54Speaking of love, let's watch quote 25.
15:58This is a Taylor Lorenz clip that came across my feed of her talking about Luigi Mangione.
16:02Let's watch this and unpack it.
16:03It's hilarious to see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching their pearls about
16:09someone standing a murderer when this is, this is the United States of America.
16:13As if we don't lionize criminals.
16:15As if we don't have, you know, we don't stand murderers of all sorts.
16:20We give them Netflix shows.
16:21There's a huge disconnect between the narratives and angles that sort of mainstream media pushes
16:27and what the American public feels.
16:29And you see that in moments like this.
16:31And I can tell you, I saw the biggest audience growth that I've ever seen.
16:35Because people were like, oh, somebody, some journalist is actually speaking to the anger
16:40that we feel.
16:41The women who, that are outside courts in New York.
16:44So you're going to see women especially that feel like, oh my God, right?
16:48Like here's this man who, who's a revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome, who's young,
16:54who's smart.
16:55He's a person that seems like this morally good man, which is hard to find.
17:01Yeah.
17:02I just realized.
17:03She makes a good point about movies though.
17:06Yeah.
17:07And about gangster movies and shit.
17:09But like to describe a murderer as morally good is an interesting take.
17:13And to not consider that he was fed to us intentionally.
17:16So have you looked into the details of Luigi Mangione?
17:18Have you done a deep dive?
17:19Yeah.
17:20I didn't do the deepest of dives, but when it was happening, I was digging around and
17:23kind of keeping tabs.
17:24And it's, it's suspicious in all directions.
17:26Did you come to the conclusion that he was engaged in psilocybin research for lower back
17:30pain?
17:31And that the person running the studies was former, had received former DOD contracts?
17:34Whoa.
17:35Uh, chaos.
17:36Can you say chaos?
17:37I don't know.
17:38I don't know if that's...
17:39Someone tell Candace Owens about Luigi Mangione's psilocybin trial.
17:41I don't know if it's true, but there is substantial reason to believe that he was in psilocybin
17:45trials for chronic lower back pain.
17:46So I did, I did get to the chronic lower back pain.
17:48And then you look at who's running the studies and whether they've ever had DOD contracts,
17:52you're like, wait, the government messed up.
17:54Is Harley Pasternak involved in these DOD studies?
17:56Is Harley Pasternak treating Luigi Mangione's back?
17:59Holy moly.
18:00That story just got crazy.
18:01I can't remember the name of the scientist.
18:02I can't even, I'm not even confirmed that he was in these studies or not, but I think
18:05he was based on everybody that he followed on X and all the psilocybin study content
18:09and the memes that he'd post about what it's like to be in the waiting room before psilocybin
18:12study.
18:13And so it looked like a classic MKUltra situation.
18:15I mean, so yeah, it's like, let's say we can't necessarily confirm that.
18:18Correct.
18:19Well, you know, we'll look into it.
18:20That's, you know, you look into it too out there.
18:21But, uh, Taylor made an interesting point about how we do lionize criminals in movies.
18:26Like we've got all these mobster movies and stuff when they're like, those are horrible
18:29people.
18:30Um, it's like a tough ball because like, yeah, they're like, those movies are fun.
18:33They're cool, whatever.
18:34Uh, but at the same time, they're fucking evil and blindizing, uh, a murderer, a cold blooded
18:40murderer.
18:41That's just shooting the dad of someone in the, in the back of the head, just because of his
18:45gripes about the medical system.
18:46Eh, not great.
18:48No, not about it.
18:49But yeah, maybe there's a better way to deal with that little problem.
18:52Exactly.
18:53And, but the thing that I felt like she was missing there, um, which this is what we were
18:57saying about if your expertise is missing a key component of understanding about how the
19:02world works, like if you don't understand MKUltra, you wouldn't even consider the fact
19:06that maybe Luigi Mangione was not enough, like just an organic thing that just came out
19:12of nowhere.
19:13Like hot twa girl, maybe she didn't blow up and get a podcast and get all the biggest
19:19guests in the world on our podcast out of nowhere because of just organic sentiment
19:24online.
19:25Maybe there's a little bit of narrative massaging and narrative control.
19:28And, um, and I can't help, but feel like Luigi Mangione had all of those, uh, the, the
19:34indicators that mean that tell you not that, you know, for sure, but that tell you that
19:37you should be looking into it because what do they need right now?
19:40They need an angle to take against Donald Trump.
19:42The, the sort of leftist globalist factions that, you know, that wanted Kamala to win,
19:49whoever's aligned with them.
19:50They need an angle on Donald Trump.
19:51And he very deliberately take him out, like literally kill him.
19:54Oh, well, I mean, I don't mean that way.
19:55Literally.
19:56I mean, they need an angle politically speaking to, to spin a narrative around him now to
20:01mobilize their base to do things like black lives matter riots and to do things like
20:05whatever the next false flag, whatever the next code, it's going to be like, it's going
20:08to be like Cinco de Mayo or something like that where a bunch of migrants are going to
20:11get bombed.
20:12They're going to blame it on white supremacy.
20:13Bingo.
20:14But I also think they're going to try to kill Trump and blame it on Iran.
20:16I completely believe it.
20:17And they need their base to cheer that on.
20:19They need their base to be with it because you could see as Trump got elected, you could see
20:24the reporting start to shift towards these oligarchs and people like, you know, oh man,
20:31I'm totally blanking on our Ocasio-Cortez.
20:33She's out here just like suddenly spewing about the oligarchs even harder, using these
20:37like kind of talking points, which to be fair, she's always been kind of about like, let's
20:41go after the rich, despite now suddenly she's one of them.
20:44But it, you start to see these little indicators that kind of give you a sense of what narrative
20:49are they spinning in front of my eyes.
20:51And then suddenly this killer just comes out of nowhere.
20:53This vigilante that is taking justice on one of these oligarchs for how they've wronged
20:58all the American people.
20:59And it just felt a little too convenient in the way it all came together.
21:04Certainly did.
21:05And speaking of AOC, let's run clip two and then I'll pitch to clip 10 as well.
21:09But here's clip two.
21:10This dude is probably one of the most unintelligent billionaires I have ever met.
21:16So she says Elon's one of the most unintelligent billionaires she's ever met, but then she goes
21:19in in clip 10 to say that America was set up to be destroyed.
21:22Can you run 10 for us too, please?
21:24Also, you know, the other way I think you can think about it is that we are, you know,
21:30perhaps we are in the downfall of the broken way.
21:34Yeah.
21:35This was not built to last.
21:37Inequity, injustice is not built to last.
21:41It lasts a long time.
21:43It could last hundreds of years, but ultimately it crumbles into this, you know, a small cohort
21:53of incompetent people that create damage.
21:56And from that, something new can spring.
22:00And so maybe something is declining right now, but maybe it deserves to decline.
22:04I mean, let's really quickly acknowledge the fact that AOC, you're right.
22:09Corruption and evil and broken capitalism was not meant to be the system that America is.
22:18And it's not meant to last.
22:19Ponzi schemes inevitably burn themselves out.
22:21The fiat dollar was never going to work.
22:24The globalist banking control, starting wars, funding wars from both sides, profiting off
22:30the start, the middle, the end, the rebuild, funding terrorist organizations, and then funding
22:34the wars against those terrorist organizations.
22:36Obviously, that is not going to last.
22:39Like that's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
22:40The yen carry trade was never going to last.
22:43The yen carry trade was going to blow up.
22:45Sorry, like the housing bubble was going to, but they do this in front of an American flag
22:49and they always do this as though America was the thing, the evil, right?
22:54As though Elon Musk was representing America and his evil billionaire-ness was America,
22:59which is like so misguided and so subversive and evil.
23:04This country that has given them everything.
23:06This country that has allowed AOC to go from bartender to whatever the hell she is now,
23:11right?
23:12And so it really grinds my gears when they try to paint it as though America is that evil
23:16and as though capitalism is inherently that evil.
23:18Right.
23:19And it's not really capitalism that they criticize when they criticize capitalism.
23:22Not at all.
23:23It's fascism that they criticize.
23:24Yeah.
23:25But they don't realize it.
23:26So they come after capitalism and they say, this billionaire, this billionaire, these billionaires
23:29and this amount of wealth.
23:30And it's like every single monopoly that's ever existed in the United States of America
23:33has been government sponsored all the way from Rockefeller through Google.
23:36Right.
23:37And all these billionaires that you're criticizing for being billionaires, they all have federal
23:40government contracts.
23:41So if you kill the federal spending, then there's not really much left of capitalism to criticize.
23:45You're criticizing fascism, criticizing the fact that the government funds these entities
23:49in order to control them.
23:50But speaking of propaganda from the left, I want to show you clip 70.
23:54Do you remember this take from 2020?
23:55Go ahead and run it, please.
23:57I take responsibility.
23:59Do you remember this, Ian?
24:01I take responsibility.
24:03I do.
24:04I take responsibility.
24:05What was this?
24:06I take responsibility for every unchecked moment, for every time it was easier to ignore
24:13than to call it out for what it was.
24:15Is this from the black square?
24:16I think so.
24:17Every unfair stereotype.
24:19Every blatant injustice, no matter how big or small.
24:24Every time I remained silent.
24:26Every time I explained away police brutality.
24:29How funny would it be if I cut to an Asian actor and it was like,
24:32every time I say the end was?
24:34Black people are being slaughtered in the streets, killed in their own homes.
24:38I'm trying to become a better person over here.
24:39These are brothers and sisters, our friends, our family.
24:43We are done watching them die.
24:46We are no longer bystanders.
24:48We will not be idle.
24:50Enough is enough.
24:51Is the piano music in the background?
24:52I will no longer allow an unchecked moment.
24:54I will no longer allow racist, hurtful words, jokes, stereotypes.
24:57When this came out, I was a leftist.
24:58So you believed it?
24:59You watched it and you were like, what the fuck is this?
25:04Is this the best we've got?
25:06No, I remember when that came out and I was still a leftist.
25:09I was not woken up to things.
25:10I didn't really understand anything yet.
25:11Because that came out during COVID, right?
25:13Yeah.
25:14Like everybody was on social media so much and just watching Netflix so much that uses
25:18an opportunity to just embed propaganda.
25:20I mean, that's really what ramped up in my opinion.
25:22Oh, yeah.
25:23A lot of the wokest, woke leftist ideology in media, because they were like coming out
25:27with this content like this is the perfect opportunity while we have this captive audience to just
25:30drill home leftist ideology, DEI, ESG in all the content.
25:35And that's just another example of it.
25:36Yeah.
25:37Yeah.
25:38It is tragic how when you have an uneducated populist that does not understand how communist
25:44revolutions have always begun and always worked and how they always do them through
25:48the educational institutions and through the like media and entertainment institutions,
25:53through the cultural institutions, right?
25:55If you don't, if you're not educated enough to know at least the smallest bit of that history.
25:59And I know Douglas Murray, I've never been to Russia, but like, if you don't know some
26:03of that history, then it's actually, it's really effective no matter where it happens.
26:08And so when they start feeding this, like we like racism in America.
26:12Yeah.
26:13There's isolated incidents of racism.
26:14Like sure.
26:15There's isolated incidents of racism in Israel too.
26:17There's isolated incidents.
26:18There's tons of racism all over the world.
26:20Yeah.
26:21Um, but in America we were on the right track, right?
26:25We had gay marriage, like, like black people and white people and brown people were more
26:30or less living all with the same rights and the same abilities.
26:33Like certainly with different cultures, different socioeconomic statuses in different places,
26:38but it's not because like, you know, we can get into that for years.
26:41But then suddenly when we start talking about it over and over and over, we are all the
26:44way back to, and just like, you know, a few years time, we're all the way back to open
26:48racism where there are like white own, like whites not allowed spaces, like blacks own,
26:53like just, yeah, absolutely like segregation, segregated spaces and conversations.
26:59Um, I remember learning about Brett Weinstein's, uh, experience at Evergreen College, which
27:04was back before this all kind of happened where he was the first notable case.
27:07Exactly.
27:08And he stood up because they asked for a day when whites weren't allowed to come to school.
27:12They basically said, this is a, this is a day of white silence and that whites weren't
27:15going to come.
27:16And he's like, uh, fucking no, like, sorry, I'm still, and like, he's Jewish.
27:20So he could probably have been like, ah, like, I don't know.
27:22I'm not even, but they wouldn't have had that.
27:24They wouldn't have bought that.
27:25He's white adjacent.
27:26Exactly.
27:27He's white adjacent.
27:28Right.
27:29And he wasn't going to like, you know, try to hide behind that.
27:30He's like, no, fuck you.
27:31I'm coming to teach my class.
27:32And if you don't want to come, whatever, don't come.
27:33But like, I'm coming to teach.
27:34And they like mobbed.
27:35They like were chasing after him on the campus, trying to hunt him down.
27:38And like, it's insane that people can not realize that reverse racism is also racism.
27:44Right.
27:45Yes, absolutely.
27:46And that if you stand up against it, then you're suddenly some kind of a bigger racist.
27:50I mean, look, I've seen so many clips this weekend.
27:52I don't know if you've been seeing it too, of just black kids beating the hell out of,
27:55like growing up and beating the hell out of one Asian kid or one white kid.
27:58And I know that these are anecdotes.
28:00But I mean, if we look at trends here, there's a problem.
28:03And it's obvious that low socioeconomic communities, in my opinion, because they're low socioeconomic,
28:09not because of the race, are more vulnerable to the narrative or propaganda pushes of major government entities or institutions.
28:17They're going to subconsciously feel the momentum of a cultural shift or push in a more vulnerable way than people who are raised to think for themselves in solid households with security and assurances.
28:31And high quality education.
28:32Yeah.
28:33And I don't even know.
28:34I mean, it comes back to the same thing we're talking about with AOC in front of that American flag where they blame all of these things on America as though America was the problem.
28:41Right.
28:42Even with this entrenched racism.
28:43Right.
28:44If you don't have a background in understanding how the CIA works and how the crack cocaine epidemic actually started.
28:51If you don't know how the private prison for profit pipeline works and how many black people there literally still working as slaves to this day.
28:59And that corporations like McDonald's and Starbucks and Verizon are profiting off of slave labor in our prison system today paying prisoners cents per hour wages.
29:09Yes.
29:10That like if you don't understand those things, then you could think, oh, my gosh, America is full of entrenched racism.
29:15But what it actually is, is it's deep state and corporate programs that are profiting to the tunes of billions of dollars off of literally smuggling crack cocaine into the black neighborhoods in L.A. in order to impoverish those black neighborhoods.
29:30They are running sexual blackmail operations in the black music industry with people like P.
29:35100 percent.
29:36They are promoting degenerate music in order to promote degenerate culture in order to have gangster culture, thug culture, hoe culture, because that keeps this type of people in this lower vibrational thinking.
29:47It keeps them doing things that will lead the men to prison and lead the women to whatever the hell it's leading them to.
29:52And that is so profitable to them that there's corporations profiting off of it.
29:56There's organized crime profiting off of it.
29:58There's government profiting off of it.
29:59And then they don't have to worry about the vote so much because they can just kind of keep this whole scheme going that they've always had of like the blacks will always vote for the Democrats because like.
30:07And, you know, the welfare and handouts.
30:09Yeah.
30:10Fortunately, they're starting to wake up.
30:11But they create the problem in order to offer the solution.
30:13Yeah.
30:14And then they try to blame the problem on America as though America was the problem.
30:16And then when the problem was actually kind of like the deep state all along.
30:19It is.
30:20It is.
30:21It's true that it's the deep state, but it is kind of our fault if we let it continue to happen.
30:23100 percent.
30:24And like we have we have a problem, I think, in the conservative or in right wing America where we like keep falling for supporting the same old types of politicians against like like like the Dan Crenshaw's that get elected over and over again.
30:34The Lindsey Graham's who get elected over and over again.
30:36The Mitch McConnell's.
30:37In fact, I want to show clip.
30:39Twelve here of Candace Owens talking about the neocons.
30:42Let's run clip number twelve and then unpack that on the other side.
30:45Frauds.
30:46You are all frauds and you're going to get exposed.
30:49I'm telling you one by one you're going to get exposed because you're pissing me off now.
30:52OK, I spent all of 2024 having to fight you guys like disgusting little goblins.
30:58You operate all in the dark.
30:59You lie.
31:00It's all it's it's you lie like some people breathe genuinely.
31:03These people lie like I breathe.
31:05It's just natural.
31:06It's just like just like their lungs expand and a lie comes out.
31:09And there's a network of that and Megan McCain and Ben Dominick have been a part of that network forever.
31:14OK, everyone knows who these neocons are.
31:16Want to keep Americans drummed up.
31:18Vote a war.
31:19These people who can't fight the wars.
31:20They cry when someone points out accurately that they're clinically obese.
31:23You can't fight the wars.
31:24You can't fight the wars.
31:25But your sons and daughters better fight the wars, guys.
31:27God forbid you have a person on a platform telling you, you know, this is stupid.
31:31We don't need to be involved and beating Netanyahu's Middle East BS and expansion policies.
31:37OK, they don't have the people.
31:38They want you to be the people that go die for it and trying to marry you to those ideas in the classroom, on podcasts, via the media.
31:46And because their relationship and your trust in the media has been fractured, they now have to work on trying to fracture your trust in people like me and Tucker Carlson.
31:54This is the new vibe.
31:56Oh, he sounds like an Iranian propagandist when he says don't die in Iran.
32:02When he says that obviously no person should send their kids to die in the Middle East because this has been our policy, our flatline policy for the last decades.
32:12And nothing good has come of it.
32:13Literally nothing good has come of it.
32:15They can't even pretend anything good has come of it.
32:17Look around.
32:18Look at your streets.
32:19Look at your country.
32:20Is your country cleaner?
32:21Is your country better for having fought Israel's wars for decades?
32:25She's right, though.
32:26Oh, that's anti-Semitic.
32:27Like one of the things that frustrates me about being accused of anti-Semitism is, look, I'm not anti-Semitic.
32:32I'm just advocating for the rights of or for the well-being of American Jews over Israeli Jews.
32:37Yeah.
32:38For all Americans.
32:39Yes.
32:40Yes.
32:41America first.
32:42And in some ways for the whole world.
32:43It's like the whole world would be better off if we weren't all running off to go fight in other people's wars and continue these cycles of neocon wars that are just for profit, political and sometimes even religious gains.
32:51Right.
32:52But can we just quickly take a moment to just just recognize the absolute run that Candace Owens has been on this year?
32:58Oh, she's been good.
32:59She basically took down the entire French government.
33:01Like she basically she exposed and we're still waiting for the lawsuit or we're still waiting for the evidence that she's wrong.
33:08She exposed that the first lady of France is a man and she was not the original digger.
33:15But she's the one that kind of brought it to the world and brought Xavier who started reporting to the world.
33:18And like and that's just one of many digs like and she since leaving the Daily Wire, which is a monumental moment in the alternative media space.
33:27Brett Cooper then following her, she has just been on this monumental tear that is just singular and no one people have tried to touch her.
33:34People have tried to come at her and it's just like arrows bouncing off of Kevlar.
33:37It's insane.
33:38It's wild to watch.
33:39Well, and she's a really good example of somebody who was pushed out of a major institution one way or the other.
33:44And and blowing up as a result, like we cannot allow the these organizations to put us in chains, whether it's any news outlet.
33:53And there's something to be said for just going independent this day and age.
33:56If you're good at it, you'll make it.
33:57Yeah, 100 percent.
33:58And that's the beauty of the decentralized media.
34:00And that's, I think, part of why I have such an issue with Douglas Murray.
34:03And, yeah, I've got skin in the game because I'm like the paragon of independent media.
34:07Dude that came from nothing and became very popular and blew up very quickly and like sort of gained this great voice and following or whatever.
34:13Sometimes deserved and sometimes just luck.
34:15I don't know.
34:16But if you're the one advocating for these more centralized systems, for these expert systems, for these systems that are controlled by institutions and money and degrees, you're advocating for the system that gave us the Iraq War.
34:29You're advocating for the system that lied to us about MKUltra.
34:32You're advocating for the system that has been controlling our lives all along, because, like, what do we think the universities are at this point, right?
34:39The universities are that system.
34:41And they are designed to be the indoctrination centers for that system.
34:44And that's why, like, going back to the intelligence agencies, intelligence agencies specifically recruited all of the Ivy Leagues.
34:49Yes.
34:50Because the Ivy League is not necessarily the highest level of education, though they do have a lot of it.
34:55Look, if you learn calculus at a community college, you learn calculus the same way you learned at Harvard.
34:59Bingo.
35:00But the thing you didn't learn is how to toe the center line, how to say yes ma'am, how to run favors and be a sort of influence peddler.
35:08And be vetted by the network.
35:09Be vetted by the network.
35:10And be vetted by the network.
35:11That's how you wind up at these Ivy League schools.
35:13And so when you get a high-performing person at an Ivy League school, you know that that is a good little worker drone that probably doesn't even...
35:19I mean, like, you have to obviously test their morals to make sure they're down to do what you ask them to do.
35:23But there's a reason why the CIA and all of the, you know, secret intelligence agencies recruit at these Ivy League schools.
35:30And that's also why Jeffrey Epstein was one of the biggest funders of places like Harvard and MIT and had all these connections at all of these different institutions at those schools.
35:38Because that is where all of these deep state networks recruit from because it is a worker bee factory.
35:43It's not a free thinker factory.
35:45It's not a intelligence factory.
35:47You know, intelligence is emergent.
35:49And it emerges wherever you are just by you living, experiencing, and being your best, right?
35:54You can do it without a college degree.
35:55You can do it with community college.
35:56You can do it with university.
35:57You can do it with university.
35:58And trying to kick people out and slander them and shame them like they did with Candace Owens, that doesn't affect it.
36:04They'll just grow bigger, right?
36:05Trying to censor them like Douglas Murray did doesn't help.
36:08You just make a fool of yourself.
36:09In the last couple of minutes that we have together, what are some things you think that the Trump administration has done well?
36:14And what's something you think that they really need to work on?
36:16Oh, good question.
36:18I always, I'm trying to get better at remembering that these things take lots of time.
36:24Yeah.
36:25And that we see some things that seem like failures and, you know, we'll see.
36:29And we see some things that seem like successes and we'll see.
36:32Like, Doge seemed great.
36:34But ultimately, it sounds like the cuts that we got from Doge are just equal to, you know, the military industrial complex's extra budget that's coming in.
36:43So really the thing that I'm, the one thing that I am most excited about that the administration has done is more of what we all did together, which was endorse it.
36:52Right?
36:53Because we can argue about what they've done and what they've failed at, what they've succeeded at.
36:57But ultimately, like, we endorsed the desire for what they were promising as the American way right now.
37:04And that collectively, all of us agreeing that we are done with this woke bullshit, agreeing that we're done with open immigration, done with a border that is trafficking children on behalf of the cartels, done with the forever wars, even though we're apparently not.
37:16That endorsement is my favorite thing about the Trump administration.
37:20It's the American administration.
37:22It's the American people that are, to a large extent, actually trying to hold the administration accountable and actually speaking up when Pam Bondi totally botches the release of the Epstein files, for example.
37:35What could they do better?
37:37An awful lot of things.
37:38But I think that the number one thing that I'm concerned about is, I mean, there's a lot of them.
37:45One of the big ones is I'm concerned about all of the wealthy technologists that are in Trump's ear.
37:51The technocrats.
37:52The technocrats getting into their little places of power, and that includes Elon Musk, but that includes Peter Thiel standing right behind J.D. Vance.