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00:00Is it true you did a stage version of Reservoir Dogs, Tarantino's movie?
00:06That is true.
00:07Wow.
00:07Which I did when I was 18.
00:09I directed and played Mr. Pink and we did it in a nightclub in Killarney or a discotheque
00:17as they were known back then.
00:20So yeah, that was like my first sort of real experience of doing something.
00:26I had no clue what I was doing, but just very passionate.
00:30But you produced and directed it and started?
00:31Yeah, yeah.
00:32Did you contact Quentin Tarantino at that point?
00:35No.
00:36You didn't tell him?
00:36No, we gave the money to charity, so I think you don't need permission once you do that.
00:41And I did tell him that when I auditioned for Inglourious Bastards.
00:47And I was like, don't worry, we gave the money to charity.
00:49He was like, good man, I don't want people making money out of my shit.
00:52I was like, okay.
01:00I know how to find Felix.
01:05Two Ukrainian SF kids and one senior Delta.
01:09So he's calling the shots.
01:11He won't want to move far, moving risks engagement.
01:13Draw a 20 kilometer radius, discount buildings, open ground.
01:17Section every wood larger than three acres.
01:20Search dead centers of these sections.
01:22That's our haystack.
01:23Get time code from surveillance satellites and planes that Owen's already on.
01:27I've got the raw data ready to search.
01:28Look for single car-sized heat patterns that are stationary, then vanish within five minutes.
01:34Russians have drones up with IR cameras.
01:37Deltas are trained to pour water on an engine block to cut the heat signature.
01:42That's our needle.
01:46Welcome to the actor's side.
01:49Today you've seen him in so many different things and different kinds of roles.
01:53And now in a television series, sort of going back to his roots, the earlier days you did
01:59television series and things.
02:01This one's the agency on Paramount Plus and it is amazing.
02:05Amazing cast, production values, edge of your seat stuff.
02:10I'm going to talk about the season one finale too.
02:13I don't want to give it away.
02:14But anyway, welcome to the actor's side, Michael Fassbender.
02:18Thank you so much.
02:19This is a great show.
02:20I have to tell you.
02:21I'm pretty, yeah, I'm very pleased to be part of it.
02:26You know, I think it's got an intelligence to it, a confidence to it in terms of, you know,
02:35its pacing.
02:36It requires an audience to lean into it a little bit, you know, and do a bit of work.
02:42But very rewarding because of it, I think.
02:45And, you know, the cast, I think, is stellar.
02:47You know, fantastic guy.
02:48Richard Deere, Jeffrey Wright, Jodie Turner-Smith.
02:52And for water.
02:53John Magaro.
02:54Yeah.
02:55You know who I love too in it?
02:57The psychologist, Harriet Sampson Harris.
03:00Absolutely.
03:00Who was so good in Licorice Pizza.
03:02I kept saying, who is this?
03:04She played an agent in that and things.
03:05She's one of those great actors that, you know, doesn't get enough credit.
03:09Yeah, and I think, you know, for people in the industry, you know, everyone was very excited
03:14that she was on the project.
03:15Yeah.
03:16Because she's, you know, so experienced, a real, you know, class act.
03:24And again, you know, one of those sort of people that comes up, comes into work and just
03:29delivers every day.
03:30You know, like Alex Jennings as well.
03:32Oh, yeah.
03:32He's only, you know, in it for the first couple of episodes.
03:35But again, you know, absolute pro.
03:39Yeah, super, super lucky.
03:40We got a great cast.
03:42So you're a big movie star.
03:44What is it?
03:44Well, you are.
03:47You are.
03:49But what is it about jumping into a television series that you're going to have to do this
03:53character, you know, maybe for a few seasons?
03:56I don't know how many, but I know it's already got a second season coming up too.
03:59What was it that intrigued you to go in this direction right now with this show?
04:05I think the sort of the climate that we're in at the moment in terms of film is, you know,
04:11we were talking about Black Bag before it started this, that that sort of film is a rarity.
04:15You know, the $40 million, $50 million film, which is kind of, you know, the sort of films
04:21that I would have always gone to see in the cinema.
04:24There's just not many of them getting made anymore because people aren't going to the
04:30cinema as much anymore.
04:31So really for the adult material and stuff that is challenging and the sort of stuff that, you
04:37know, I like to watch, but also like to be part of, a lot of it's television now.
04:44Yeah.
04:45And that's just kind of the nature of the beast at the moment.
04:49And so that's where the material is.
04:52Yeah.
04:52And when I came across this series, which was originally The Bureau.
04:59It was a French series.
05:00Exactly.
05:00At one time.
05:01Exactly.
05:01And I watched that with Alicia, my wife.
05:04We were watching it during lockdown.
05:07And I was like, wow, this is really smart.
05:09You know, and there's something interesting about having 10 hours to study, you know, a
05:17character, different relationships.
05:19It's a different arc.
05:20Certainly working over a 10-hour arc as well over one season is interesting.
05:27You know, how do you sort of deliver a character, present a character over 10 hours as opposed
05:34to two hours?
05:35So there was just a lot of stuff that I found challenging and interesting.
05:38Yeah.
05:39That you don't find as much of in the film world now.
05:44See, it's harder now with movies.
05:46Definitely.
05:47Especially big studios.
05:48They seem to be interested in video games and things like that.
05:50Well, I think it's either going to be $150 million to $200 million budget or up to $12
05:57million.
05:57Yeah.
05:58Do you know what I mean?
05:59That sort of period, I mean, that sort of place in between just doesn't exist anymore.
06:03Yeah.
06:04It's a rarity to get something made like Black Bag, you know, or The Killer, you know, these
06:10kind of films with these great filmmakers at a certain budget.
06:14And that's just sort of the reality of the business.
06:17Yeah.
06:17We were talking before we started this about Black Bag, which is Steven Soderbergh, who
06:22you worked with on...
06:24Another spy, I think.
06:25Another spy.
06:26Yeah.
06:27Yeah.
06:2710 years ago.
06:28Yeah.
06:28Yeah.
06:28Haywire.
06:29Haywire.
06:2915 years ago.
06:32And now the agency, too.
06:33A lot of spy work in your life.
06:36I know.
06:36It's weird because both of the jobs sort of came about at the same time.
06:42So I got an email off Soderbergh, just young.
06:47He was like, hey, what's up, home slice?
06:49Take a look at this and sent me the script and sort of read the script and emailed him
06:54back the next day and I was like, I'm in.
06:56And then the agency came about literally, you know, a couple of days later.
07:01And just the material on both of them, you know, just too hard to turn down.
07:07So I jumped on board with both of them.
07:11And yeah, they just happened to be in the spy world, I guess.
07:13At the moment, you know, it seems to be a genre that's quite hot at the moment, which
07:18was interesting as well with the agency because, you know, I think there's a kind of a lot
07:22of sort of spy stuff out there at the moment.
07:24But what's cool about the agency is, you know, it's a slow burn to begin with.
07:29You know, it's about the sort of the granular detail.
07:33It's also, you know, there are action set pieces there for sure.
07:36But you've got to kind of earn them in a way.
07:39You know, a lot of the times now everything would be packed into the first episode, let's
07:44say.
07:45Well, it's not James Bond.
07:46No.
07:46You know, it's more akin to when James Bond started, more akin to like the spy who came
07:52in from the cold.
07:53Yeah.
07:53Burton, Ibrahim Spile, Michael Caine, you know, those very smart spy kind of dramas that were
08:00a counter to that.
08:02And that's what this seems.
08:04By the way, didn't you audition to play James Bond at one time?
08:08I mean, I don't think it was ever an audition.
08:10I went in to meet them and that would have been, I'm going to say, well, before Daniel
08:19was cast.
08:20So I guess that would have been like 2004.
08:23Yeah.
08:24Maybe.
08:24So, yeah, I mean, I went into the room.
08:28I don't think I thought I was like, you'd be the greatest James Bond.
08:31I think you're right.
08:34Didn't you tell them that?
08:36I should have done.
08:37I should have said I would be excellent.
08:39Yeah.
08:40No, I think I think Daniel did a phenomenal job.
08:43Oh, he's.
08:43Yeah.
08:44He's great.
08:45Yeah.
08:45Well, they're reviving James Bond now.
08:47There's still time.
08:49Well, I think I'm a little old now, I would say.
08:51I think Aaron Taylor Johnson.
08:54Oh, you would be my pick.
08:55Oh, wow.
08:55OK.
08:56Yeah.
08:56Yeah.
08:56I know his name was floating around there recently.
08:58And I thought, well, that's a great, great pick.
09:01I think.
09:02What you're doing now is getting great material, you know, with the Butterworths who are from
09:07theater and Broadway and everything else are the creators and writers.
09:11Yeah.
09:11Joe Wright.
09:12Yeah.
09:13Directing this.
09:13You have George Clooney as one of the producers and Grant Heslov.
09:18So this is feature film level stuff.
09:21You don't even get this in most feature films now.
09:24Absolutely.
09:25And you've also, you know, got 101 David Glasser, you know, super experience.
09:30Right.
09:30And they're doing all the Taylor Sheridan shows.
09:33Exactly.
09:35So, yeah, you know, it was it was because of all those things that, you know, that I decided
09:39to go for it and commit to, you know, television series that could run, you know, however many
09:45seasons, you know, because, you know, all the people involved and that level of talent
09:52and commitment, you know, and, you know, it's a different challenge television as well.
10:00You know, I really enjoyed it as like a lot of respect for people working in that field
10:05because it's all about time restriction.
10:07You know, you have the luxury of time on a film.
10:10Whereas with TV, you know, you've got to, you know, arrive on set, you've got to block
10:13it fast, figure out what you're doing, and then move fast.
10:16You know all of your lines and everything.
10:18Well, yeah, hopefully.
10:19It's a different pace, for sure.
10:23It's a different pace.
10:24Yeah.
10:24You've just got to figure things out quicker.
10:27But what is it as an actor returning to the same character, in a sense, when you're doing
10:32a series and taking it into a different direction?
10:35I promised I wouldn't say how this ends in season one, but the last shot of you there
10:44and where you're going is so fascinating and telling you we're in unknown territory here
10:52where this is going.
10:53Yeah.
10:54I mean, you know, that was the thing as well.
10:56You know, the scripts are so well-crafted, you know, and, you know, I was talking about
11:01this yesterday.
11:02Each of the characters is there for a reason.
11:05Right.
11:05You know, there's no fat on the bone.
11:06It's like, you know, and each of the characters brings a different energy.
11:10Yeah.
11:11You know, so Bosco, Richard Gere is totally different to, you know, Jeffrey Wright, you
11:17know, character Henry, you know, to my character, the Martian, Catherine Waterstone, you know,
11:22Jodie.
11:24And it's sort of, you know, the setup in the first couple of episodes, you have all these
11:28different strands and story strands.
11:30Right.
11:31And then everything starts to weave together, you know, in the last episodes.
11:35It becomes a very sort of rewarding end to it.
11:37And I got to say, the next season, you know, which we're going to start shooting very soon,
11:42it just doesn't let up.
11:44So, you know, it sort of tightens as you get through the first season.
11:48You know, by the time you get into episode five and six, everything starts amping up.
11:52Wow.
11:52And the vice grip starts tightening.
11:54Well, you know, by the time you finish sort of episode 10 in the first season, it doesn't
11:58let up now into season two.
12:00Things just get tighter.
12:01The walls, you know, come in closer and closer.
12:03It's very exciting.
12:04That's amazing.
12:05That's exciting.
12:06And it's exciting to see where this character goes, because he's definitely a sociopath.
12:11You played them before.
12:12Yeah.
12:12But, you know, the killers, you mentioned the killer.
12:16Now, that killer was a film that David Fincher directed for Netflix, and it's an incredible
12:22movie.
12:23There are some similarities, but not...
12:25Definitely.
12:26You know, not completely, but there are.
12:29There are a lot of crossovers there, you know, between the two.
12:31And I did think a lot about that when I was doing it, you know, for sure, both characters
12:36are sociopaths.
12:37Yeah.
12:40Different sort of trajectories of their life.
12:42I think, you know, Martian is desperately trying to save his soul.
12:47Yeah.
12:48You know, through his relationship with Samia and his daughter.
12:51Right.
12:51And I think he's trying to salvage that part of him that he's lost for many years now.
13:00And the killer is definitely on a different sort of path.
13:05Also, you know, in a state of crisis, for sure.
13:08But I think for both of their professions, it stands to them well to be a sociopath, you
13:18know, because I think it means that you can get a good night's sleep and come back sort
13:23of ready to go to work again.
13:25Yeah.
13:25But both for very complicated characters and fun to play.
13:31Yeah.
13:31And I love the emotional aspects, the personal relationship, obviously, with the Jodie Turner
13:36Smith character, Sammy, you know, is there that you don't always see in these things.
13:41And oddly enough, in Black Bag, that's there.
13:44That's really a story of a marriage.
13:46That movie even set against the world of a spy agency.
13:50Definitely.
13:51You and Cate Blanchett.
13:52It's quite fun because it's sort of like, how do you sort of preserve marriage?
13:56You know, what goes in the black bag and where?
13:58And the trust.
14:00Exactly.
14:01And honesty, you know.
14:02It was so fun about it.
14:04Yeah, definitely.
14:05You know, and that's, you know, very much like tongue in cheek, sort of wink to the audience,
14:10you know, Black Bag.
14:11It's a different kind of genre.
14:12We knew we were going to shoot it a certain way that Stephen was going to sort of, it's,
14:17you know, it's sexy, it's shot in a very stylized way.
14:20Yeah.
14:21And again, you know, it was harking back to, you know, films like The Hypocrist File and a
14:25certain, you know, decade of spy genre.
14:30But a lot of fun.
14:32And again, you know, David Koepp, fantastic writer.
14:36It's also harking back to something like Edward Albee, like Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
14:41Yeah.
14:41You're watching, like, inviting everyone to this dinner table for an evening of fun and
14:47games.
14:47Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:50Like George and Martha did.
14:52Yeah.
14:52You know.
14:53Yeah, yeah.
14:53So smart, so sophisticated and so rare to sit in a cinema these days and see that kind of
15:01level of a movie.
15:03Absolutely.
15:03You know, getting back to what we were saying at the beginning, you know, you don't get
15:06an opportunity to be part of those kind of films or to go and actually see films like
15:12that.
15:12Yeah.
15:13There's not many of them for sure.
15:15So it was a real treat to be part of it, you know.
15:19Were you always going to be an actor?
15:21Did you get the bug when you were young?
15:23No, I just got lucky, really.
15:26Unfortunately, I didn't know what I wanted to do and I was 17 and it was a past pupil
15:34of our school.
15:35I went to St. Brendan's College in Killarney and it was a man called Doni Courtney came
15:41back and set up acting workshops and comedy workshops and I just did a couple of classes
15:47and that was it.
15:48I got the bug and I was like, this is what I'm going to do, you know.
15:52Much to my parents, sort of.
15:55And they weren't into that?
15:57They were worried, you know, about me being able to sort of make a career out of it, for
16:02sure.
16:02But when they saw I was serious and committed, then they were behind me.
16:07And you did a lot of stage work.
16:10Right.
16:11At the beginning, I did, you know, but I haven't done it in a while.
16:15The last thing I did on stage was 2006.
16:18Oh, wow.
16:19Yeah.
16:19Is it true you did a stage version of Reservoir Dogs, Tarantino's movie?
16:25That is true.
16:25Wow.
16:26Which I did when I was 18.
16:28I directed and played Mr. Pink and we did it in a nightclub in Killarney or a discotheque
16:36as they were known back then.
16:38So, yeah, that was like my first sort of real experience of doing something.
16:44I had no clue what I was doing, but just very passionate.
16:47But you produced and directed it and started?
16:50Yeah, yeah.
16:50Did you contact Quentin Tarantino at that point?
16:53No.
16:54You didn't tell him?
16:55No, we gave the money to charity.
16:56So I think you don't need permission once you do that.
17:00And I did tell him that when I auditioned for Inglourious Bastards.
17:05And I was like, don't worry, we gave the money to charity.
17:07He was like, good, man, I don't want people making money off my shit.
17:10I was like, okay.
17:13I was curious because I knew you famously worked with Tarantino in Inglourious Bastards.
17:17One of my favorite movies, by the way, just an incredible film.
17:20Yeah, he's amazing.
17:21Yeah.
17:21That had to be a lot of fun to do that.
17:23Incredible.
17:24Yeah.
17:24Real sort of, you know, pinching myself sort of moments on that, you know, working with
17:28him.
17:28Yeah.
17:29Incredible.
17:29I mean, the directors you've gotten to work with in features, you know, from David Fincher
17:34to Tarantino to Ridley Scott.
17:37Ridley Scott.
17:38Yeah.
17:38Amazing.
17:39And all of those.
17:41Real masters, you know, really, you know, super lucky, learned a lot, got to work with
17:46the best, you know, Steve McQueen, Andrea Arnold.
17:49Oh, my God.
17:49You know, just, you know, great people.
17:51Well, Steve McQueen, of course, famously as well, you know, beginning with Hunger and then
17:56Shame, for which he won the Volpe Cup.
17:59That's right.
17:59David Lee at the Venom Film Festival.
18:01Yeah, yeah.
18:02And then first Oscar nomination with 12 Years a Slave.
18:07That's right.
18:09Yeah.
18:09What was that magic that could happen with Steve McQueen on screen for you?
18:15I don't know.
18:15You know, he just taught me how to, you know, trust my instincts and just, you know, a trust
18:24thing, you know, where you have trust in your director and then you can go to places that
18:27are, you know, pretty dark and ugly and really try to get to the truth of something, you know.
18:33Yeah.
18:34And he just has a talent in bringing that out in actors.
18:37Clearly, 12 years went to a very dark place for your character.
18:41That can't be that easy.
18:44No, you know, it's not nice, but we had a really, you know, tight group of actors and
18:49we all supported each other.
18:51And it was actually quite, you know, we had a lot of fun off camera to try and sort of burst
18:57the bubble of all that tension, you know.
19:00Is that right?
19:01Yeah.
19:01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:02Try to.
19:03Yeah, definitely.
19:03That's wild.
19:04Yeah.
19:05Yeah.
19:06Did you have any idea when you were doing that picture it was going to go on to win
19:09Best Picture, get you an Oscar nomination?
19:12You know, you never know.
19:13You don't really think of that.
19:15You're just trying to do justice to the story, you know, and Solomon Northup and try and do
19:19justice to his story.
19:21And then the rest sort of will take care of itself.
19:25Yeah.
19:25Of course, you've done a lot of very big scale movies, the X-Men films as Magneto.
19:33I think about four of those you did.
19:35And then again with Ridley Scott and the Alien Covenant and Prometheus.
19:41Was it fun playing androids?
19:43A lot of fun.
19:44David is a lot of fun to play.
19:45Yeah, for sure.
19:46Was he?
19:47Yeah.
19:47Yeah.
19:48And again, you know, just, you know, great sort of writing, a great inspiration that he's
19:54sort of, you know, got this thing about Lawrence of Arabia and Peter O'Toole and just a lot
19:59of, a lot of things to, to sort of mine into and play with there.
20:03Yeah.
20:03And then working with Ridley, you know, just a joy, you know, he's fantastic.
20:07You know, we did three films together, the two Alien films and The Counselor.
20:11And The Counselor too.
20:12Yeah.
20:12Another one, you know, he's amazing.
20:14I've interviewed him a couple of times.
20:16I've never seen anyone more excited about the next film he's going to make.
20:19I know.
20:20You know, I interviewed him on the Gucci, House of Gucci.
20:23And I said, what are you doing next?
20:24Oh, I'm doing Napoleon.
20:26I've got six battles.
20:28And he's 86 years old.
20:31He's incredible.
20:32And to watch him, you know, on set, you know, sitting in his tent, he's got five cameras
20:36going at once.
20:37And, you know, he just lives for it.
20:39You know, he's just so passionate about making film and a joy to work with and really actor
20:46friendly, you know, and a real gentleman.
20:49What was Fincher like?
20:50Because I hear he, like, takes a lot of takes, asks for a lot of takes.
20:54He does.
20:55But, you know, that's because he believes that, you know, the whole thing is like a process
20:59of distillation, you know, so you distill something until you get it right.
21:04Yeah.
21:04And once you're on board and everybody's on board and it's the same for everyone, whether
21:09it's, you know, down to a camera move or a performance or what's happening in the background
21:15of a shot, you know, it's, it was, I loved it.
21:19I found him super generous and learned a lot, you know.
21:24You took four years off, I think it was, to go auto racing, which is a passion of yours,
21:31I know.
21:32So you just sort of went cold turkey off of the movies and.
21:37Yeah.
21:37I mean, it's, it was, it's, it's kind of very hard to do both together because you can't
21:43get insured.
21:44Oh.
21:44You know, if you're racing, you won't be able to get insured for a film or TV or anything.
21:48And it was time for me also to take a break.
21:50I'd done a lot of work.
21:53Yeah.
21:53And back to back.
21:54And I felt like I needed to take some time, get some perspective.
21:59Um, and also I always wanted to, to, to try my hand at racing and give it a go.
22:04And I, and I wanted to fully commit to that and I'll go back to it again, um, for sure.
22:09Um, in a few years.
22:10Yeah.
22:11Le Mans, you did all of these.
22:13I'm really impressive.
22:14You like a professional.
22:16Well, no, I mean, definitely an amateur for sure.
22:19Um, but you know, Le Mans is, um, is, is an intense experience.
22:23And of course you're on track with some of the best drivers in the world.
22:27Um, and it is one of the crazy sports where as an amateur, you can be crushing shoulders
22:33with these great professionals.
22:35Yeah.
22:36Um, and I, you know, I will go back to Le Mans again for sure.
22:40It was one of the most special experiences I've ever had.
22:44Would you like to mix it up and maybe do a movie set in the world of auto racing?
22:48Like Brad Pitt's got one coming up.
22:51There's, there's a couple of racing stories that I've been trying to do for a while now.
22:56So fingers crossed.
22:58Um, we'll see that it comes, it comes to fruition.
23:01That'd be exciting.
23:02Yeah.
23:03Yeah.
23:03Yeah.
23:03Yeah.
23:04Well, if F1, if the Brad Pitt movie is a big hit, that's how Hollywood works now.
23:09That's right.
23:10No.
23:10So, you know, since drive to survive, people are like, Oh wow.
23:13Okay.
23:14Then now they're interested for a long time.
23:15People were like, well, what is this racing world?
23:17But then of course, when you see drive to survive, you realize that the characters are
23:21so exceptional, you know, there are like misfits in a way, you know, and, and sort of like
23:29mad geniuses, um, and very sort of, uh, interesting personalities that, that, that are in that world.
23:38Yeah.
23:39I think of the other Steve McQueen, the actor that we know was very much the same.
23:45Yes.
23:45Very invested in racing and everything.
23:48Yeah.
23:48And it was actually the movie when he made Le Mans.
23:51Le Mans.
23:52I think that was the end of his racing career.
23:55Yeah.
23:55I think that killed his joy of it, that experience.
23:59Yeah.
23:59Whereas Paul Newman continued racing, I think, into his eighties.
24:03Yeah.
24:04Oh yeah.
24:04And actually came second in Le Mans, Paul Newman.
24:07Which is amazing.
24:08Yeah.
24:08Le Mans, there's a documentary about the making of Le Mans.
24:12That's right.
24:12Oh, which is.
24:12The man in Le Mans.
24:13Yeah.
24:14Yeah.
24:14How it just, you know, sold, they sold their soul on that and it was just crazy.
24:19It's still, for me, the best film that has captured racing.
24:25Yeah.
24:25It's authentic.
24:27It feels authentic.
24:29And yeah, I remember seeing it when it actually came out.
24:33Yeah.
24:33I want to, before we go, I've got to pay you a compliment because, you know, you've done
24:37a lot of intense movies, a lot of dark movies and things, but I love Next Goal Wins.
24:42We were just talking about that on the way here.
24:44I mean, I love Taika.
24:45Taika Waititi.
24:46And to watch, and it's, of course, based on a true story.
24:49And you play the coach and it's so fun and it's so fun to watch.
24:54And, you know, I want to see more.
24:55Come on.
24:57Yeah.
24:58You know, I love doing that, you know, and I love, you know, working with Taika.
25:02He's a brilliant, you know, mind.
25:05Yeah.
25:05He's so like full of energy and ideas.
25:11A brilliant, brilliant mind.
25:13Very sharp, very fast.
25:14Yeah.
25:15I love working on it.
25:17And I love comedy.
25:18I try and bring comedic moments in kind of all of the performances I do.
25:25Right.
25:26Just because I think, you know, if you can manage to have that, it can be much more poignant
25:33when you have a poignant moment.
25:35If you can make people laugh, it disarms them.
25:37And then they're willing, you know, they're ready to go anywhere from that point, you know.
25:42Totally.
25:42Well, I saw it at its premiere at the Toronto Film Festival.
25:46And then I kept telling my wife about it.
25:48She wasn't in Toronto.
25:48I kept telling my wife.
25:49So we went and saw it in an actual theater with people that paid.
25:52And I noticed the second time I said, wow, he's really got comedic chops here.
25:59Oh, that's sweet.
25:59It's a subtle way, but you don't overplay it.
26:02But, you know, it really worked.
26:03It really worked for us.
26:04Oh, thank you so much.
26:05Yeah.
26:06I appreciate that.
26:06Want to see more Michael Fassfenner, a little lighter stuff.
26:09But in the meantime, the agency on Paramount Plus, you can see the whole first season.
26:15Can't wait for the second season.
26:17And check out Black Bag that's in theaters, but also will be at home eventually, too.
26:25Both of those current things, really good.
26:27Thank you for joining us on the actor's side, Michael Fassfenner.
26:30Peter, thank you so much.
26:31Appreciate it.