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00:00But, Joe, I know you watch the early line.
00:02You participate on the early line.
00:04Sometimes I get passionate about a few things that seem to happen.
00:07And the takes sometimes get kind of wild.
00:09But I've told people over the past couple years, in any sport that you have,
00:12in any realm of your life, I would tell my young daughter who's 13 years old right now,
00:18just cheat your whole life.
00:19It never catches up to you.
00:21Cheaters always win.
00:23You know, I'd grow up like, cheaters never win, like the tagline, like G.I. Joe,
00:26whatever it might be.
00:27No, no, no, no.
00:28We're going to rewrite that.
00:28Cheaters always win here.
00:30He said, what's Donnie talking about?
00:31Let's go back to Michigan, who I've talked about ad nauseum on this show for the past couple years
00:35under Jim Harbaugh, where it's like, you know what?
00:37We are going to cheat at every turn.
00:40I need to win at all costs.
00:41And they did.
00:42You know what happened to Jim Harbaugh?
00:43He went pro for an even more lucrative contract, a Michigan man that's beloved by Michigan
00:48because he did whatever it took to win.
00:51Under him was Sharon Moore, who also participated in the cheating scandal with Conor Stallions.
00:56So you know what happens to him?
00:57He doesn't lose his job.
00:59He doesn't get a 10-year show cause.
01:00He gets to keep his job and they go, we're just going to suspend you for two games next season
01:04as part of you cheating here.
01:06And let's continue to move on.
01:08Joe, help me out on this.
01:10Am I right?
01:11Or am I crazy?
01:12Do cheaters always win?
01:14It seems like they do.
01:15Well, they, again, it's kind of a double-edged sword, Donnie, right?
01:21The cheaters in this case won a national championship because of their cheating.
01:26Had they not, had they not, we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation right now.
01:32So the problem is that on this level, this level of cheating, it worked for them.
01:42Even though they never admitted, denied, denied, denied, eventually, what is this now?
01:46Three years later?
01:47Two years later?
01:48Now, all of a sudden, they're coming out with everything that we knew to be pretty much true
01:54when it was happening.
01:55Yeah, they were cheating.
01:56It was like Belichick and the videotapes, right?
01:59Yeah, Belichick was cheating too.
02:01Deflategate.
02:02I mean, you just go through it, Donnie, but you got to win in order for it to make it sense.