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00:00:00 On today's episode of the Mark Titus Show, PFT Commenter is joining the show for the
00:00:03 first time ever.
00:00:04 I've been on his shows a lot.
00:00:05 I think he was, was he technically on episode zero, TJ, but which we don't count as we do
00:00:10 the lore of this show, which a lot of people out there, there are a lot of Mark Titus Show
00:00:14 historians that, that want the official record.
00:00:18 Let the official record show that episode zero was not a real episode.
00:00:22 So PFT is making his first appearance on this show, but he made it solo because first time
00:00:26 he was on, he was with Big Cat and he and I have never really done a show together,
00:00:30 just the two of us.
00:00:31 So I was excited about the idea of just talking to him about whatever comes up.
00:00:35 And that's what we did.
00:00:36 We, we, it was kind of like the show with Brandon.
00:00:38 We just kind of sat down and, and, and let the, let the conversation go a million different
00:00:41 directions.
00:00:42 He is a guy, and we talk about this later in the interview, but I would not be at Barstool
00:00:47 if it was not for PFT.
00:00:48 He was, he was the first guy at Barstool that I knew personally.
00:00:51 He was the, the, he, he legitimized Barstool for me.
00:00:55 And I, I, my whole journey with this company, which wasn't much of a journey, most of it
00:01:01 was like me living obviously off on the side as Barstool was doing their thing.
00:01:05 But like I, you know, I've, I've lived in the Barstool universe for a while because
00:01:08 of my affiliation with Pardon My Take and all of it comes back to PFT and just kind
00:01:14 of like me knowing of him and sort of knowing him before he signed on here.
00:01:19 So I don't know, it dawned on me before we did the show that, that are coming into this
00:01:25 week that for a guy that I've known forever, I've known him longer than anyone else at
00:01:29 this company.
00:01:30 It's kind of wild that we've never done a show together.
00:01:33 So I thought PFT, come on the show.
00:01:35 And we did, and we talked forever and it was a fun conversation.
00:01:37 And his dog Blake is here, which I'm kind of bearing the lead.
00:01:41 Blake is, Blake is in the studio.
00:01:43 So that was, that was freaking awesome too.
00:01:45 So without further ado, enjoy my conversation with the one, the only PFT commenter.
00:01:51 All right.
00:01:52 Joining me now is PFT commenters dog, Blake.
00:01:57 We asked Blake to come on the podcast and then PFT was a, was a add on.
00:02:01 He brought me along.
00:02:02 Your dog is in the studio.
00:02:03 This is, I was, I was prepared to ask you about the new dog and you brought the dog
00:02:06 into the studio.
00:02:07 Yeah.
00:02:08 You're beaming.
00:02:09 You're just like glowing over there.
00:02:10 This has been a great week for you.
00:02:11 You get a new puppy.
00:02:12 Dan Snyder's gone.
00:02:13 Yeah.
00:02:14 What a week.
00:02:15 I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm
00:02:16 like a month ago to deserve all this, but I'm, I'm happy that it happened.
00:02:18 I'm trying to think what have I done in July?
00:02:20 I've been a real piece of shit during July.
00:02:22 So I guess I got to keep doing that.
00:02:24 But Blake, yeah, he's awesome.
00:02:26 But it does come with a lot of responsibility.
00:02:29 Was Leroy the first dog you had?
00:02:31 Was this like, that was this, cause I, I asked for, for selfish reasons that I have a dog,
00:02:36 Moses that is 12 and a half.
00:02:38 I am, I am not, you know, I'm not blind to the realities of the world here.
00:02:43 And uh, it, I don't know, like I, I, I'm just curious, like, what was Leroy your first dog?
00:02:49 Cause Moses was my first, is my first dog.
00:02:50 And I'm, I need you, I need help preparing for, I don't even want to say it.
00:02:56 Oh, it's yeah.
00:02:57 That's it's tough.
00:02:58 Um, yeah.
00:02:59 Great way to start a podcast.
00:03:00 Leroy was my first dog.
00:03:03 I got him when I was 22 or 23.
00:03:07 And yeah.
00:03:08 Uh, you go through a lot of life with a dog when you get a dog at that age, like a lot
00:03:11 of changes.
00:03:12 That's when I got Moses, like the same, I was like the same age.
00:03:15 Yeah.
00:03:16 Yeah.
00:03:17 On the other hand, it does, it, it teaches you a little bit of responsibility when most
00:03:19 people in their twenties, you know, they're, they're out absolutely no, no home responsibilities
00:03:25 that they have to do whatsoever.
00:03:26 Right.
00:03:27 You're lucky if you do the dishes once a month, but yeah.
00:03:29 Uh, Leroy was, he was my dog from 22, I guess, till 35.
00:03:36 And then yeah, it took me a little bit to get, I was going to, well, that's why I brought
00:03:39 up Leroy was like, what, what was the process like to decide you wanted to get Blake?
00:03:43 It was just ready.
00:03:44 Just felt right.
00:03:45 I felt excited about having a dog.
00:03:46 You don't want to get a dog to replace the old one.
00:03:49 That's what I'm worried about is like, I don't want it to feel, I don't want to feel like
00:03:52 I need to apologize.
00:03:53 Did it, it was, yeah.
00:03:54 Are you like sitting there like, like praying to Leroy, sorry buddy.
00:03:58 I felt bad.
00:03:59 I was like, Leroy, I still love you.
00:04:00 If you can hear me right now.
00:04:01 Uh, no, my advice to you actually.
00:04:04 Some people get a young dog when they have an old dog and they have the old dog.
00:04:09 Teach the young dog the ways of the house.
00:04:12 That's so deep.
00:04:13 It's like the ancient Kung Fu master.
00:04:16 Well, it's been hard for us because we just moved to Chicago a week ago.
00:04:20 The apartment we had in LA was, was tiny.
00:04:23 We had 900 square foot, like just one floor.
00:04:27 Obviously we, there's an elevator to get up to our floor.
00:04:30 Um, and now we got a house with a ton of stairs and it's been heartbreaking because Moses
00:04:36 like, can't, he can get up the stairs, but it's like, it, it reveals how old he is when
00:04:42 he's like got to walk up and down these stairs.
00:04:44 And this week has been like really brutal with like, I've spent an absurd amount of
00:04:48 money trying to figure out salute, like they're hardwood stairs.
00:04:51 So we're, we're, he slips all over the places he's going to and we're buying trips down.
00:04:55 We're buying the strips.
00:04:56 We're buying the, we got like sticky pads that we're putting on them or we're doing
00:04:59 all these things.
00:05:00 Um, but yeah, this week has been rough and uh, I don't know.
00:05:05 Dogs are, dogs are amazingly adaptable though.
00:05:07 Yeah, he'll be fine.
00:05:08 He's a trooper.
00:05:09 They just don't like, especially if they're old, they don't like new places.
00:05:11 Yeah, that's, that's very much what's going on with him.
00:05:14 We put the strips down for him too.
00:05:16 And he's uh, he's a little bit shy about stairs and yeah, in Chicago it's just stairs on stairs
00:05:23 on stairs.
00:05:24 He's turned into a little celebrity though.
00:05:25 This guy's, his head's getting big.
00:05:27 I took him to the park the other day and we walked out of the house and a neighbor just
00:05:32 yells at me, he goes, Hey Blake.
00:05:35 And then he's already starting to learn his name too, which is crazy.
00:05:38 He's going to be very smart, way smarter than me.
00:05:40 So Blake like looks at him.
00:05:42 My neighbor comes up to me, he goes, yo, you're never going to believe this.
00:05:45 I'm your next door neighbor.
00:05:46 My name's Blake.
00:05:47 I'm like, okay, all right.
00:05:48 What's mine say?
00:05:49 Yeah, exactly.
00:05:50 So we had, we had a meeting at the Blake's yesterday and uh, at least I'm, I'm terrible
00:05:55 with names.
00:05:56 So I'm like, I'm not going to forget that.
00:05:57 You'll forget that guy's name.
00:05:58 Blake the neighbor.
00:05:59 So we're at a dog park and uh, this lady drives by in a car and she slows down and comes to
00:06:03 a complete stop and she sees Blake playing with another puppy.
00:06:07 She rolls down her window and she goes, is that Blake?
00:06:10 Oh my God.
00:06:11 And then the, uh, the lady that owned the other dog that he was playing with just like
00:06:14 stopped and was like trying to figure out what's going on.
00:06:16 They're like, is Blake famous?
00:06:17 I was like, yeah, yeah.
00:06:18 So are we, I guess Blake's famous.
00:06:19 Yeah.
00:06:20 Are we considering monetizing this?
00:06:21 Well, you have to, you have to.
00:06:22 You know, like how do you start a, back in, in the, in the 1500s and the 1600s you had
00:06:26 as many children as possible.
00:06:28 They could help you till the land and milk the cows, churn the butter, feed the ducks.
00:06:33 You have to get dogs and you have to put them on Instagram as soon as possible.
00:06:36 So no, he doesn't have, he doesn't have social media yet.
00:06:39 He's too young for that.
00:06:40 I don't want that.
00:06:41 You don't want him to become addicted at a young age.
00:06:44 I want to figure out though what, because Leroy had his breaking news lane that he stayed
00:06:48 in, right.
00:06:49 Which was fun.
00:06:50 It's a great, it's a great bit and it continues, right?
00:06:51 Like you still, he's got a ghost.
00:06:53 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:54 But when, when Leroy, when, uh, when actual NFL insiders would have to credit my dog
00:06:59 for beating them to the scoop, hilarious.
00:07:01 It was funny.
00:07:02 So I don't know what, what line of work Blake wants to get into.
00:07:04 I was thinking maybe you could be a capologist.
00:07:07 There's no celebrity capologist yet, right?
00:07:09 So that just, but that would require me learning all the different things about the salary
00:07:13 cap.
00:07:14 Yeah, you don't want to do that.
00:07:15 Especially NBA shit.
00:07:16 How do you keep track of that?
00:07:17 I don't, I don't.
00:07:18 I just, I just inform my listeners that I am not an amateur GM and I don't know any
00:07:22 of this shit.
00:07:23 I mean, that is one of the more bizarre things to me in consuming sports because, uh, I,
00:07:28 I, there was just something that I literally never thought of once when I was growing up
00:07:32 and watching basketball, football, you name the sport.
00:07:35 Um, you would think like we should trade for this guy.
00:07:38 If you were a fan of a team, like we, that would be cool to, if you're a Jets fan, you're
00:07:41 like, I would love Aaron Rogers.
00:07:42 Like that's cool that we traded for him, all that sort of thing.
00:07:45 But I don't remember a single conversation when I was in high school with my buddies
00:07:49 about if the pastors make this trade, that'll put them over the cap or if they sign this
00:07:53 guy, they, you know, like nobody ever talked about that.
00:07:57 And I don't know who the blame for this, but I absolutely hate it.
00:08:00 Bill Simmons.
00:08:01 Pretty much.
00:08:02 I blame Bill.
00:08:03 I blame Bill for like 13 year olds across America being like, yo, what if we got, I'm
00:08:08 trying to think of a player that like back in when we were growing up, I would probably
00:08:13 be like, what if we got Ray for Austin on a two way exemption?
00:08:16 Yeah, right.
00:08:17 Right.
00:08:18 What the fuck is a two way exemption?
00:08:19 Who would possibly know what that is?
00:08:20 And then Woj tweets it out.
00:08:21 Like everybody knows what we're talking about.
00:08:24 The 10 day contracts, the two way exemptions, the mid level exemptions.
00:08:27 It's like you have to, they've, they've sneakily trained kids to get into doing complex math.
00:08:33 Right, right.
00:08:34 And I don't like it.
00:08:35 That's the kids wouldn't do math unless it has to do with salaries and all that stuff.
00:08:37 I saw like this week, uh, uh, Colin Coward and J Mac were talking about trading Shohei
00:08:45 Otani for five first round picks and people were killing Colin.
00:08:47 Cause they were like, you can't, that's not how the MLB works.
00:08:50 I'm going to defend Colin and say, good on you, Colin for not knowing.
00:08:53 You know, like that's, that's awesome.
00:08:55 That tells me you're a real man that watches sports and you're not flipping through legal
00:08:58 pages and CBAs and shit.
00:09:01 When I saw that, I was like, well, fuck, I didn't know that either.
00:09:04 I didn't, but then I still wanted to be like, Colin Coward is such an idiot for not knowing
00:09:08 that it's your job to know that.
00:09:09 And then I thought, wait, does that mean that it's my job to know that?
00:09:12 Cause I certainly don't.
00:09:13 But yeah, I mean, if you're the angels or if you're a team trading with the angels,
00:09:16 if you're the giants, you can just say, we'll give you eight first round picks and then
00:09:21 put that in the contract and the angels are like, Hey, that's a lot.
00:09:23 That's a lot of, okay.
00:09:25 And then it turns out you don't actually have to give them any picks.
00:09:27 I think basketball, baseball is probably up there, but it feels like basketball is probably
00:09:31 the worst at it in sense of like the, the, the informed fan knows way too much.
00:09:37 And it's very frustrating to be a guy that talks basketball.
00:09:40 And you know, like a situation like the nuggets when the title Bruce Brown, we know is going
00:09:45 to become a free agent.
00:09:46 He eventually signs with the Pacers.
00:09:49 I feel like I'm supposed to know, like, I kind of got the read that the nuggets didn't
00:09:53 have enough money to, to re-sign him, even though they, they definitely wanted to.
00:09:58 But I had no idea.
00:09:59 I was like, I don't, I don't know.
00:10:02 I don't, I don't even know what guys are worth.
00:10:03 Like that's the other thing that I'm always blown away.
00:10:05 Like guys like Priscilla always seemed to like, no, like you see a guy signs a new contract
00:10:09 seven years, $194 million and people have takes like right away.
00:10:14 That's too much.
00:10:15 I'm like, I'm more than 190.
00:10:16 Yeah.
00:10:17 But they had to spend it more.
00:10:18 I'm like, who the fuck would know how much you're supposed to get this guy?
00:10:20 Like, I don't get it either.
00:10:22 Do all these people have algorithms and spreadsheets at their own homes that they like, you've
00:10:26 got the ESPN trade machine opened up nonstop simulations.
00:10:30 It's very weird when you talk about it, like it's your money too.
00:10:32 That's the other thing that I always found weird is like, I don't care what I mean.
00:10:37 I don't, I guess like if you only have a certain amount of money and you're allocated into
00:10:39 the one player, I guess I sort of get that argument, but it was always weird to me.
00:10:42 Like, why would we give this guy this much money?
00:10:44 I'm like, it's not your money.
00:10:46 You're not the one paying this guy out of pocket.
00:10:47 Like I'm confused by, he could have bought 500 firefighters and teachers.
00:10:51 That's it.
00:10:52 Right.
00:10:53 If you, if you look at their salaries, yeah.
00:10:54 With Bruce Brown, I believed him when he said, I'm not going anywhere.
00:10:58 Yeah.
00:10:59 I'm coming back.
00:11:00 It was like, we're running this motherfucker back.
00:11:01 He ain't going nowhere.
00:11:03 I think that's what I did too.
00:11:04 I thought he's, I thought he's definitely gone.
00:11:06 Then the parade happens and he's like, we're coming back.
00:11:08 And like, I got college basketball brain where like, you just kind of commit to your school.
00:11:12 He's like, all right, he just announced he's coming back.
00:11:15 That's cool.
00:11:16 All right.
00:11:17 We don't have to worry about this anymore.
00:11:18 It turns out, I think it was something like $4 million to return as opposed to like $30
00:11:22 million to go somewhere else.
00:11:24 The most they could pay him was like four mil.
00:11:26 Right.
00:11:27 So yeah, Bruce Brown is not loyal.
00:11:28 No loyalty in that.
00:11:30 No.
00:11:31 Yeah.
00:11:32 Yeah.
00:11:33 Did not.
00:11:34 His commitment means nothing.
00:11:35 Talk to me about Dan Snyder.
00:11:36 I asked you one time, this was, I got, I forget where I remember where I was sitting in the
00:11:40 lobby of the New York office.
00:11:41 Oh, just hit my microphone.
00:11:42 I'm sitting in the lobby of the New York office and I remember just make it small talk with
00:11:47 you.
00:11:48 And I think like they had first announced that like Dan Snyder was looking into selling
00:11:51 the team.
00:11:52 Yeah.
00:11:53 And I just kind of floated some to where I was just like, you'd be happy about this, right?
00:11:56 And you just crack your knuckles and you're like, boy, would I be happy?
00:11:58 And like, you just talked for like 20 minutes about how much you hate this man.
00:12:02 Yeah.
00:12:03 He's, he's been the worst.
00:12:04 Magic Johnson is owning your team now.
00:12:05 Yeah.
00:12:06 We went from being like lame as shit to I think we're cool now.
00:12:09 I don't know.
00:12:10 I saw magic Johnson dancing to go, go music on Friday at the pep rally that they had for
00:12:15 the team.
00:12:16 And I was like, hold, I don't know what this emotion feels like.
00:12:19 I can't remember the last time where I felt like I was excited about the ownership of
00:12:23 my team.
00:12:24 Yeah.
00:12:25 And I'm sure there's highs and lows.
00:12:26 It's a 76 is fans will tell you that they don't like Josh Harris that much, but he did
00:12:31 oversee the process.
00:12:32 That's what I'll say about Josh Harris.
00:12:33 It takes a special kind of owner, like a billionaire that, that this, that was his biggest project
00:12:38 was the 76 years.
00:12:39 Right.
00:12:40 Forget all the other business dealings he had, like he was focused on the Sixers.
00:12:44 And what he did was he just hired a general manager and said, you do whatever you want
00:12:48 to do.
00:12:49 I'll give you the longest leash ever.
00:12:50 I'll trust you.
00:12:51 He trusted the guy that said, trust the process.
00:12:54 So he, so most owners, you, you get two years of the process and you still lose.
00:13:00 And then most owners will be like, well, you got to change the process.
00:13:02 Cause I can't lose again.
00:13:03 Controversial take.
00:13:04 Uh, I think you could argue the process was a success in so far as it made the Sixers
00:13:09 very, very relevant in a way that they had not been since Allen Iverson.
00:13:13 And whether you were winning or losing or not, the fact that like free age, like the
00:13:17 Sixers were always in the mix for free agents, the Sixers, they just like were relevant.
00:13:22 And then that, you know, like Philly fans don't want to hear that.
00:13:25 Cause like in Philly, they're thinking we either win titles or we're failures.
00:13:28 Um, and, and there are certain fan bases, I think that way, but I don't know.
00:13:32 I think there is like a middle ground where it's like, you took a franchise that frankly,
00:13:35 like didn't have a lot going on.
00:13:37 And for a while, like you were the talk of the NBA, you have the MVP.
00:13:40 Yeah.
00:13:41 And now you have the MVP and like, yeah, you're never going to win a title.
00:13:43 We all know this.
00:13:44 Everybody knows that.
00:13:45 Joel Embiid knows this.
00:13:46 Yeah.
00:13:47 Everybody knows this, but you're in the mix.
00:13:49 That's fun.
00:13:50 The process of the process worked.
00:13:51 If you're a real process guy, you can admit the process of the process worked.
00:13:55 The results of the process.
00:13:57 Listen, Markel Foltz, Ben Simmons developed vertigo or whatever.
00:14:02 Uh, there's some questionable results from the process, but if they had hit on those
00:14:07 two picks or if they'd even only hit on one of those two picks.
00:14:10 Don't forget the draft pick, the Sixers.
00:14:12 I don't know if this counts as a process draft pick, but a Zaire Smith, when they, when they
00:14:16 drafted Mikael Bridges, his mother worked for the team and he's replayed at Villanova.
00:14:20 Then they immediately traded him to a guy who was allergic to sesame seeds and ate like
00:14:24 one hamburger and then like hasn't played basketball ever.
00:14:27 I had completely forgot about that.
00:14:29 Everybody forgets about that one.
00:14:30 I don't think, I think that was post process technically, but you know, the way.
00:14:34 The process worked.
00:14:35 The process is.
00:14:36 Don't forget the process of the process is good.
00:14:38 We judge a process based on the process and the process I follow.
00:14:42 So like if this is what the, the commanders are, we're still going with commanders.
00:14:46 We're going to change a friend of the program.
00:14:49 Stanford, Steve texted me earlier today.
00:14:51 He got odds.
00:14:52 He got odds on a, um, on a name change and apparently it's minus four 50 that they're
00:14:59 going to change the team name.
00:15:00 Wow.
00:15:01 So that's, that's a lot better than I thought.
00:15:03 I hate the commanders.
00:15:04 The commanders is terrible.
00:15:05 Such a bad name.
00:15:06 Dan Snyder changed the name and regardless of what anybody else told him to name the
00:15:11 team, he was going to name them the commanders because he wants to court like the military
00:15:16 contractors and ex military guys.
00:15:18 And I mean the NFL has deputized itself as another branch of the military at this point.
00:15:23 So he wants to lean into that and say, okay, yeah, we're the most militaristic team in
00:15:26 the NFL.
00:15:28 He thought that would translate into an upswelling of local support around the team.
00:15:31 And we're like, no, this is stupid.
00:15:33 This is stolen value.
00:15:34 I mean it's an entire franchise of stolen dollar is what he did.
00:15:37 So I'm glad that it seems like they're going to be changing the team name.
00:15:41 And so I'm going to pull up the odds real quick here.
00:15:43 If I can find the text, here we go.
00:15:45 A minus 400 that they will change the team name.
00:15:49 So that's one to four odds plus two 50 that they won't change it.
00:15:53 And the betting favorite right now is the Spartans.
00:15:55 No, don't know.
00:15:56 That would be the dumbest because of magic, right?
00:16:00 Magic's involvement.
00:16:01 Is that why I hadn't thought about that?
00:16:03 There's that.
00:16:04 At least there's a connection there.
00:16:05 I thought that it was.
00:16:06 I mean, that's not there's no, that would be the most uncool thing.
00:16:10 Magic Johnson could possibly do is like become the owner of this football team and then say,
00:16:15 I'm going to name them after.
00:16:16 I'm going to use my influence to name them after.
00:16:18 Yeah, that's stupid.
00:16:19 That would be.
00:16:20 I hate that.
00:16:21 I agree with that.
00:16:22 And the Spartans, you remember when the Raptors gave themselves the name, the Raptors, and
00:16:26 it was because Jurassic Park.
00:16:28 This is what you would do if you named a football team in like 2002 when 300.
00:16:33 Right, right, right.
00:16:34 We're just like 20 years late.
00:16:35 They do the Washington Barben Heimers.
00:16:38 I just the Washington Barbies, the Boston Barbies, neon clothes and shit.
00:16:45 I've always said that there needs to be a team named the orcas or the killer whales.
00:16:49 That's great.
00:16:50 Just because the the uniform scheme that you could get if you dressed them up like orcas.
00:16:54 That's awesome.
00:16:55 Awesome.
00:16:56 That's awesome.
00:16:57 Probably not for Washington, though.
00:16:58 I feel like that's more of a Seattle thing.
00:16:59 Yeah.
00:17:00 The football team is seven to one.
00:17:02 So they're the second favorite football team.
00:17:04 I love football.
00:17:05 Yeah, I love football team from the start.
00:17:07 I still think that if they had been called the football team for the last hundred years,
00:17:12 we would think that's like one of the coolest if they if they were called the football team
00:17:15 and also had success.
00:17:16 I should say that because that's the that's the difference between like things that are
00:17:19 cool, not cool.
00:17:20 Just like simply are you good?
00:17:21 And if if Washington, if the Washington football team had won like six Super Bowls over the
00:17:26 last 80 years, everyone would think that's the coolest thing ever is that we don't need
00:17:30 gimmicks.
00:17:31 We don't need mascots.
00:17:32 We don't need you know, and they have like they have like jerseys that are like Alabama
00:17:35 or Penn State.
00:17:36 Just boring ass.
00:17:37 But we're here to play football.
00:17:39 Goddammit.
00:17:40 We're not here to like put on this dog and pony show.
00:17:42 I don't need a cartoon bird.
00:17:43 Yeah.
00:17:44 I mean, you know, like we're a football team.
00:17:46 Our mascot, their mascot should be a foot.
00:17:48 Just a little bit.
00:17:49 Yeah.
00:17:50 Yeah.
00:17:51 We had we had Triggs design a football when they when they announced the rebrand of the
00:17:55 football team.
00:17:56 We told him just make a make a muscular football.
00:17:59 So he drew a football with these big swole biceps that was pissed off and had eye black
00:18:03 on.
00:18:04 Yeah, it's a great mascot.
00:18:05 It's very, very cool.
00:18:06 What one of the things that I learned from the the commanders and other expansion teams
00:18:11 whenever they not the the commander's expansion team, but whenever expansion teams in any
00:18:14 sport come out, you realize quickly that every every professional sports team name in this
00:18:21 country is kind of stupid.
00:18:22 Yeah, it's kind of stupid.
00:18:24 The Green Bay Packers is a stupid name.
00:18:26 If you really stop and think about it, the Green Bay Packers came out now.
00:18:28 You'd be like Packers were meatpacking.
00:18:30 Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, Steelers.
00:18:33 Come on.
00:18:34 What are we doing here?
00:18:35 You know, but because like I said, like if you win and you have jets probably wouldn't
00:18:38 work out.
00:18:39 So New York Jets would be a horrendous, terrible name for Sully because the Sully thing.
00:18:43 Right.
00:18:44 Exactly.
00:18:45 New York Giants would be awful.
00:18:46 Absolutely.
00:18:47 If if a team came out in 2023 and said, OK, we are the New York Giants.
00:18:52 Yeah.
00:18:53 Give me a break.
00:18:54 So I think you have to like kind of think through that as like there kind of are no
00:18:57 good options.
00:18:58 That's why I think I love football teams.
00:18:59 I was like, no matter what you land on, you're going to like sit there and chew on it for
00:19:02 a little bit and be like, I don't know, Spartans like what is it?
00:19:05 But what's your favorite?
00:19:06 What's the football team?
00:19:07 I like football team a lot.
00:19:08 I also like hogs or the Red Hawks is good because there's a tie in.
00:19:11 Yeah.
00:19:12 When the team was good, you could do a lot of fun stuff with a pissed off like barnyard
00:19:17 like what it was like a wild boar almost.
00:19:19 Yeah.
00:19:20 Or like you remember those toys used to play with his kids or at least I did.
00:19:23 Barnyard Warriors.
00:19:24 Oh, yeah.
00:19:25 I remember the ones that had the bazookas and shit.
00:19:27 Right.
00:19:28 That would be cool.
00:19:29 How cartoony do we want the logo, though?
00:19:31 Like is it or is it like a almost.
00:19:33 Yeah, I think that's the question.
00:19:35 You got it.
00:19:36 Like that's where I'm at.
00:19:37 Well, hog sounds cool, but I need to see because like Arkansas Razorbacks, their nickname is
00:19:41 kind of the hogs.
00:19:42 They I think they have some cool logo like the Razorback looks cool on the side of the
00:19:45 football.
00:19:46 Yeah.
00:19:47 The actual Razorback animal.
00:19:48 So with D.C., I think it would probably be a little bit more cartoony.
00:19:50 Like if it's Porky Pig.
00:19:51 I don't know if I.
00:19:52 Back in like the 80s and 90s, when we had that awesome offensive line, there were guys
00:19:57 that used to get dressed up on Sundays for the games.
00:20:00 The Hoggetts.
00:20:01 Yeah.
00:20:02 Premise behind this was they were the wives of the football players, which is totally
00:20:06 don't question it's manly as fuck to get dressed up as your favorite player's wife and then
00:20:10 go to a game and cheer for him.
00:20:12 And they would wear dresses.
00:20:13 I remember seeing the beer.
00:20:14 Ben Shapiro rant on those guys.
00:20:16 I remember.
00:20:17 Yeah, I remember back in the day when he did that.
00:20:19 Those guys.
00:20:20 Those guys, those fat guys with mustaches that would put on these hog noses and these
00:20:24 big flowy dresses and they go cheer for the team.
00:20:27 And somehow it worked.
00:20:28 Somehow it all worked.
00:20:29 So I think when you think about the hogs, you think about those guys, too.
00:20:33 Right.
00:20:34 With the pig noses that they put on their faces.
00:20:36 So it would have to be a little bit cartoony.
00:20:37 But I don't know.
00:20:39 I like the idea that just because it's it's tied in.
00:20:41 Then as an aviation fan, I'm a fan of the Red Tails, which is it's I think a World War
00:20:47 II squadron of fighter pilots.
00:20:48 I think they were the African-American fighter.
00:20:51 That's cool.
00:20:52 Squadron.
00:20:53 That would be cool.
00:20:54 But the problem with that is I think everyone's just going to call them Redskins.
00:20:56 It's going to be like too close to where it's going to take a while because you're going
00:21:01 to say red and then there's going to be a lot of commentators that are talking about
00:21:05 the team.
00:21:06 Yeah.
00:21:07 They're like, and of course, let's welcome the Washington Redskins.
00:21:08 Shoot.
00:21:09 Did I just say that?
00:21:10 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:21:11 I can't believe I said that.
00:21:12 Sorry, America.
00:21:13 I meant Red Tails.
00:21:14 I feel like there would be like a season or two of that.
00:21:15 That still happens with the Chargers.
00:21:16 Yeah, you know, they call them the San Diego Chargers.
00:21:19 But yeah, I wouldn't mind Red Tails.
00:21:21 There's a bunch of really shitty names on this list.
00:21:24 The Owls, the Washington Owls.
00:21:25 I guess the Owls are kind of cool, but they're like, what's the what's the connection?
00:21:29 What's the Washington magic is nine to one.
00:21:33 And as bad as that would be the second choice.
00:21:36 So it's magic slash magicians.
00:21:40 I almost want him to be the Washington magician just because that is the worst.
00:21:43 I think that's worse than the commanders.
00:21:46 I mean, there's nothing less cool than a magician.
00:21:49 Right.
00:21:50 You got it right.
00:21:52 You can't do anything good with that.
00:21:53 You got it right.
00:21:54 But Red Hogs is also also on their Washington monuments would be trash.
00:21:58 And then they actually have the Washington Redskins at 50 to one to bring it back.
00:22:02 Bring it back.
00:22:03 We're saying that would be something.
00:22:06 It would be that would be it would be a move that Dan Snyder would Dan Snyder would do
00:22:09 that.
00:22:10 Yeah.
00:22:11 But you can't you can't go back.
00:22:12 I don't think you can.
00:22:13 I mean, when you saw originally he was saying, I'll never change the name and you can print
00:22:17 that in all caps.
00:22:18 Yeah, it will never be changed.
00:22:20 And then his his co-investors in the team, some of the minority owners, they said, well,
00:22:26 we want out.
00:22:27 We want to sell our share of the team because we don't want to do business with you anymore
00:22:29 unless you change the team name.
00:22:31 I think FedEx had something to do with that.
00:22:33 Maybe Pepsi.
00:22:34 He was going to lose a lot of money.
00:22:35 So his response to that was, OK, in that case, I will commission a study to determine whether
00:22:42 or not whether the name Redskins is offensive or not.
00:22:45 And it would have been hilarious if he had come back and been like, results of the study
00:22:48 are in Redskins is a good name.
00:22:51 Turns out it's not like if you commission a study to study that you can't you can't
00:22:56 say that we didn't find.
00:22:58 Right, right, right.
00:22:59 I mean, yeah, I went to the bar around the corner and asked all the white people there,
00:23:04 are you offended by the name?
00:23:05 Well, Mark, but a lot of those white people had had Cherokee blood.
00:23:09 So from their great great grandmother, which is something I think everybody that would
00:23:13 well, yeah.
00:23:14 How do you handle that if that's that would be a real but it would be on brand.
00:23:19 It would be on.
00:23:21 I'm trying to think of like a scenario where somehow that term is deemed inoffensive.
00:23:26 Like where you say potato people have been potato potato years and years.
00:23:32 But yeah, it's it's tough because it's a name that a lot of people grew up rooting for.
00:23:38 Not understand it was the name of the football team.
00:23:40 Right.
00:23:41 And there's a lot of memories that are tied into that name.
00:23:43 You don't stop and think every time you say it.
00:23:45 OK, well, maybe there's some people out here that don't like it.
00:23:47 It's just it's nostalgia.
00:23:48 It's like the team was good when that's when they were called for the most part.
00:23:52 And there's a lot that's tied in with that.
00:23:53 And then there's also it's tough, man, because there's studies that come out like the Washington
00:23:57 Post did a study that said 90 percent of Native Americans don't find the term offensive.
00:24:02 Oh, really?
00:24:03 And you don't know.
00:24:05 Each study varies.
00:24:06 It's very like 40 and 90 percent.
00:24:09 And it's one thing to say, oh, well, 90 percent of them don't find it offensive.
00:24:13 But if like I've talked to Native Americans that have told me like straight up, this is
00:24:17 a slur.
00:24:18 Yeah.
00:24:19 What am I supposed to tell them?
00:24:20 Well, actually, actually, it's not.
00:24:21 If you look at this, I'm not going to have a 10 would disagree with you.
00:24:23 Have you seen the study, though?
00:24:24 Yeah.
00:24:25 Let me show you.
00:24:26 Let me show you.
00:24:27 You don't get the Washington Post.
00:24:28 That's where you're wrong.
00:24:29 But there is hope for the first time since when?
00:24:33 When was the last time you were excited as a as a fan?
00:24:36 Are you three?
00:24:37 Yeah.
00:24:38 Where does Washington.
00:24:39 So I had the Chicago guys on the show.
00:24:40 That was my first show I did last.
00:24:42 It was a week ago.
00:24:45 Chief and Eddie and Dave came on the show and I asked him to like sum up where Chicago
00:24:49 sports are at right now and like what the vibe like.
00:24:52 Are you hopeful at all?
00:24:53 Is like any part of you that's like Justin Fields?
00:24:55 We think there might be some excitement.
00:24:56 And who's the hockey kid?
00:24:58 Bedard is Bedard.
00:25:00 Like is there is there like hope or is it just.
00:25:02 And Dave was just like, it's dog shit.
00:25:04 We're dog shit.
00:25:05 Everything's dog shit and everything sucks and everything's bad.
00:25:09 Where is what?
00:25:10 Because like for me and for it for I'm assuming all the Washington fans, it has been a sad
00:25:15 state of affairs.
00:25:16 Washington sport, D.C. sports are horrendous.
00:25:19 But the caps won the Nats won.
00:25:21 Yeah.
00:25:22 Now there's some optimism with the commander slash hogs slash Spartans, whatever we're
00:25:27 going to call them.
00:25:29 Where are you at like as a as a D.C. sports fan in general?
00:25:32 OK, so overall, I have to do a team by team nationals.
00:25:35 I'm at like a D if we're doing it like eight F grades right now.
00:25:38 Yeah.
00:25:39 So dog shit.
00:25:40 I'll give dog shit for dog shit.
00:25:41 We've got we've got a good farm system apparently.
00:25:44 But again, this goes back to like the NBA talk that we had earlier.
00:25:47 People know way too much about it.
00:25:49 The baseball freaks out there that understand the farm system, those stay far away from
00:25:54 baseball.
00:25:55 I think I think the baseball I think the reason I don't mind in baseball so much is that it
00:25:57 just feels on brand for that sport.
00:25:59 So like when I think the baseball dorks come out, I'm like, this is this is I don't I don't
00:26:03 love it, but it like at least it fits.
00:26:05 It makes sense in my head.
00:26:07 The basketball dorks doing it.
00:26:09 It's just like so counter to the culture of basketball in my mind, which is just like
00:26:14 just old dudes arguing in barbershops about how good guys are.
00:26:17 And also baseball has a lot more stuff that you can just quantify because right.
00:26:22 Each pitch is an individual play.
00:26:24 Each at bat, you can judge like power, all that.
00:26:27 Before like advanced metrics came along, even in the 80s and 90s, there were still a thousand
00:26:32 baseball stats.
00:26:33 Yeah, we're still, you know, like they're in basketball.
00:26:35 There weren't there was like five.
00:26:36 We had five stats.
00:26:37 And so I think that's why it's a little weird now where baseball makes more sense because
00:26:41 you were always pointing to guys RBI or, you know, average or home runs and all that other
00:26:46 stuff.
00:26:47 I learned I learned some important stat.
00:26:49 It was really important last year when we made the trade for Soto.
00:26:53 We sent him out to San Diego.
00:26:54 We got a bunch of their prospects back.
00:26:56 There's one guy that we got that had like the lowest chase rate in the history of Major
00:27:01 League Baseball farm systems.
00:27:02 So it's like this guy doesn't swing at balls.
00:27:04 And so I'm like, OK, we got the guy with the best chase rate.
00:27:06 I'm just I'm just a straight king.
00:27:08 I'm just picturing growing up in Hendricks County, Indiana, and I'm out on the playground
00:27:12 just like shooting baskets with my friends.
00:27:14 And like one guy is like, dude, you see the Cub side.
00:27:16 And I'm like, no, who they get in the farm system.
00:27:19 We got a guy who's got the lowest chase rate.
00:27:22 All of us would have beat the shit out of that kid.
00:27:23 It's going to be like, never come back to this.
00:27:25 You've got such a good eye.
00:27:26 You're such a goober, dude.
00:27:28 Waits for his pitch.
00:27:29 So good at that.
00:27:30 Yeah.
00:27:31 Maybe he's got great eyes.
00:27:32 Maybe he actually has great eyes like umpires wouldn't call Ted Williams out on strikes
00:27:36 if he didn't swing.
00:27:37 That's because they knew that his eyesight was so much better than theirs.
00:27:41 Maybe he's that good.
00:27:42 Oh, I saw a tweet the other day of some baseball nerd that was talking about Ellie Dela Cruz
00:27:46 from Cincinnati.
00:27:47 Yeah.
00:27:48 Just maybe the funnest player to watch.
00:27:49 He's awesome.
00:27:50 He's so good.
00:27:51 And he had this one stat that was like, yes, he's having a great season by most statistical
00:27:56 measurements, but he does have like a team low.
00:27:59 And I swear to God, it was like seven letters in a row.
00:28:02 And bacon was in the middle.
00:28:03 It was like XWR bacon X.
00:28:07 And this is very concerning and troubling to me.
00:28:09 Maybe this is the brand for Blake.
00:28:11 The dog is a baseball buzzkill Blake who like you just like you point out all the why show
00:28:18 hey Otani bad to retweet a show Otani home run and say bad launch angle.
00:28:24 Yeah, this is not sustainable at all.
00:28:28 He's losing some some velocity on his exit velocity is showing some some cause for concern.
00:28:35 It does seem actually Mark, you bring up a great point because part of what we've really
00:28:40 loved doing on part of my take is we like to be the first to zig when everybody else
00:28:45 lags, so whenever somebody loves a player too much, you got to be a hater that.
00:28:49 Yeah, exactly.
00:28:50 There's no show hey Otani haters.
00:28:51 There are none.
00:28:52 I think I think we might have to be the first.
00:28:55 That's a great like to join the bandwagon.
00:28:56 I'll do it.
00:28:57 I did it with Victor Wim and Yama.
00:28:58 I stick my claim and it hurt me to do it.
00:29:02 I'm strategically playing both sides where I'm like, I don't want this to be the case.
00:29:07 I'm sorry.
00:29:08 Like I'm rooting for the kid, but he's going to be a bust.
00:29:11 I just say it that way.
00:29:12 We're like, it hurts me more than I hope.
00:29:15 I'm wrong.
00:29:16 I would love to be wrong.
00:29:17 I so badly want to be wrong.
00:29:18 However, he's going to be a bus.
00:29:20 However, I'm so smart that I know that I'm right about.
00:29:23 Unfortunately for everybody, what could you nitpick about showing his strike zones?
00:29:28 Big.
00:29:29 Yeah.
00:29:30 As a batter.
00:29:31 Yeah.
00:29:32 He's a big guy.
00:29:33 His shoulders.
00:29:34 There might be something he's got those big, broad shoulders, inefficient generation of
00:29:38 velocity and he plays for the angels.
00:29:39 I mean, start there like bad picking of teams like you couldn't Google MLB teams before
00:29:44 you chose your team.
00:29:45 Like you could have 30 seconds of Googling could have told you don't sign with the angels.
00:29:50 You couldn't do that.
00:29:51 So obviously he's a coma ring chaser, just wherever he decides to sign.
00:29:56 But why did he want to team up with, he obviously went to the angels cause he wanted to team
00:29:59 up with trout.
00:30:00 So he is sort of, it's very Kevin Durant of him to like, you know, that's probably what
00:30:05 happened was he probably turned to his management team.
00:30:07 It was just like, who's the best player in baseball.
00:30:08 And they were like, Mike Trout.
00:30:09 He's like, I want to play with him.
00:30:10 Yeah.
00:30:11 He's probably scared of each row shadow.
00:30:13 Yeah.
00:30:14 He probably didn't want to go to Seattle.
00:30:15 I mean, they want him in Seattle.
00:30:16 He doesn't want to be compared to each row.
00:30:18 He doesn't think he'll be great.
00:30:19 He's so fun.
00:30:20 I, I, he is, I saw the highlight.
00:30:24 I forget how long ago it was, but there's like a highlight of him just like hitting
00:30:28 a foul ball where he just like hits the piss out of the ball.
00:30:32 I watched like 30 times or just like the sound it makes is just like, it sounds different
00:30:36 off his bat.
00:30:37 Yeah.
00:30:38 It's been a while since we've had a guy like that.
00:30:40 It really does.
00:30:41 Uh, do we miss steroids in baseball?
00:30:42 Yeah, absolutely.
00:30:43 I think we do.
00:30:44 Right.
00:30:45 We definitely miss steroids in baseball and the game, the way that it's played right now
00:30:48 is just, it should be played in the steroid era where it's just dingers.
00:30:51 I was, I went to the Cubs game yesterday, uh, uh, Sunday, Sunday afternoon Cardinals
00:30:56 game.
00:30:57 And I sat in the bleachers.
00:30:58 It's the first time I've sat in the bleachers in like 10 years.
00:31:00 And um, I, I was walking on Waveland, which is the left field.
00:31:05 Uh, if you hit it over left field, you're hitting it on the Waveland Avenue.
00:31:08 And it was just like all the memories of Sammy Sosa bombing home runs out of it.
00:31:13 Like there was just like a core memory in 1998 to see on TV, a million people on Waveland
00:31:17 Avenue with their gloves waiting to catch like historic Sammy Sosa homers.
00:31:21 And I just got the wave of nostalgia of like, well, first of all, they got to get rid of
00:31:25 the scoreboard and left field and like make it to where you can knock, knock him out of
00:31:28 the park and Wrigley.
00:31:29 But it was just like, man, we need steroids back so badly.
00:31:32 We need like, that was so fucking cool.
00:31:33 That was such like a, an awesome time.
00:31:36 But um, that's, this isn't a unique point of view, but it's just like, it is very bizarre
00:31:41 that that yeah, I don't know.
00:31:45 This is what made baseball so popular, but then they turn around and they're like, shame
00:31:48 on all of you.
00:31:49 Yeah.
00:31:50 As Bud Selig was quietly encouraging it.
00:31:51 He's like, I need these ratings so bad after the strike and you had, you had jacked up
00:31:56 home run hitters and then you had just roided out closers.
00:32:00 And I don't think, I don't feel like the roided out closers get as much love as they should.
00:32:04 Yeah.
00:32:05 I mean, when you were 12, probably like a 10 year span in baseball, you knew that your,
00:32:08 your closure was going to sprint out of the bullpen.
00:32:11 He was going to have that mustache, the mustache that connects to the goatee.
00:32:14 Right.
00:32:15 And then he was going to be pissed off, step on the mound and just throw gas.
00:32:18 Yeah.
00:32:19 And that's all you're going to get.
00:32:20 And it was the era of, uh, of your Eric Gagne, Eric Gagne, Brian Wilson, John Rocker, say
00:32:24 what you want about John Rocker, but I disavow his comments in sports illustrated.
00:32:29 Separate the art from the artist.
00:32:31 Yes.
00:32:32 That dude threw gas.
00:32:33 And he, he had these, uh, what are these muscles called?
00:32:35 The ones that are at the top of the shoulders, the delts, the delts, his delts connected
00:32:39 to his ear.
00:32:40 He had take you a spikes volcano neck.
00:32:42 It was awesome, dude.
00:32:43 It was, it was so good.
00:32:44 I think, I think they should do, there should be one team that uses steroids and now granted
00:32:51 MLB would never go for it, but we could put them in the league with a Savannah bananas.
00:32:57 So the Savannah bananas have to play, uh, I don't know, like 10 games a season against
00:33:02 the Rochester Royd heads.
00:33:05 How awesome would that be?
00:33:07 And then you get, so they're going to hit dingers, right?
00:33:10 But if your fans catch the home run ball, then that counts as an out.
00:33:14 I, my, my, my galaxy brain, minor league baseball exhibition, whatever, you know, Savannah banana
00:33:20 type line of thinking.
00:33:21 Uh, I, I think there should be one night in, in we'll say single a, cause I think you start
00:33:26 to get the double AAA.
00:33:27 Maybe it's a little too serious.
00:33:29 One night a year in single a where, um, the ball, when, when the opposed, this is the
00:33:34 dumbest idea I've ever had, but we're, we're here now.
00:33:36 So I'm going to say it.
00:33:37 The, when the opposing team is up to bat or no, yeah.
00:33:41 It, when, when any team's up to bat, every ball is fair.
00:33:44 Basically every year there's no such thing as a foul ball.
00:33:46 So when, when the opposing team is up to bat and they hit a foul ball into the stands or
00:33:50 they hit a home run, the ball is live and the fans now have to throw it back in and
00:33:53 try to tag the guy out a second or third or whatever.
00:33:56 But when the home team hits the ball, like they can play keep away and just like, like
00:34:00 they hit a foul ball into the stands.
00:34:02 The fans can just take it and chuck it out of the ballpark.
00:34:04 And then the guy runs around the bases and it's a home run.
00:34:06 You kind of described cricket a little bit.
00:34:08 I think there's no cricket is no.
00:34:10 Yeah.
00:34:11 And the pitcher should be able to bounce the ball and it counts as a straight vented cricket.
00:34:14 Cricket does sound like a sport I would like to get into at some point.
00:34:17 Um, I would like to see, you know what I'd like to see steroids in the little league
00:34:20 world series.
00:34:21 That would be awesome.
00:34:22 Let the kids just let the kids, I think that's just puberty.
00:34:25 I think it's just like, it's just that's some of these guys are either.
00:34:28 Yeah.
00:34:29 They're juicing off that.
00:34:30 God dope.
00:34:31 God, God invented steroids and it's puberty.
00:34:32 Um, or, or there's like a, how, what is franchise tagging?
00:34:36 That's another CBA thing that I don't, I don't quite understand.
00:34:38 Yeah.
00:34:39 You get a tag one player and be like, this is our steroids guy.
00:34:41 And the Yankees have to decide, is it Aaron judge?
00:34:44 Is it John Carlos Stanton?
00:34:45 Is it Anthony Rizza?
00:34:46 Who do you want to be?
00:34:47 The steroids guy.
00:34:48 And there's one guy on every team that's allowed to take steroids.
00:34:52 I like that idea too.
00:34:53 So a little bit of steroids would go a long way in helping instead.
00:34:56 Rob Manfred's like, let's make the basis a little bit bigger.
00:34:59 That's let's put the steroids into the basis.
00:35:02 Let's put a runner on second and the 10th inning.
00:35:04 I do think that, um, when it comes to, I had something else I was going to dovetail off
00:35:10 that last thing you just said.
00:35:11 We're talking about, Oh yeah.
00:35:13 Franchise tag and how that's applied in like the NFL.
00:35:17 That's a conversation that we don't really have that much is why does the franchise tag
00:35:20 even exist?
00:35:21 It's become so ingrained into like when we talk about basketball, we talk about all these
00:35:26 different types of trades and contracts guys can have.
00:35:28 And it's become like that in football where really it's just a way for running backs to
00:35:32 get fucked.
00:35:33 And there's really the French, if we're going to be a capitalist society, their market value
00:35:38 is whatever a team will pay for them.
00:35:41 And the salary cap is another way of keeping salaries.
00:35:44 It's to keep the league competitive.
00:35:47 That's what they say it's for.
00:35:48 And I think it kind of does that where in the NFL you get teams that pop up every now
00:35:52 and again, small markets, they do good.
00:35:54 That's fun for everybody.
00:35:55 I think it is good for the league, but with the franchise tag, it's just so that owners
00:36:00 don't have to give out longterm contracts to a guy that they think, okay, here's a running
00:36:04 back.
00:36:05 He might not be good in two years, so let's just, let's tag him.
00:36:07 Yeah.
00:36:08 I, well, one of the first ever like, Whoa, that's deep.
00:36:12 When I was 14 years old moments for me was when I, I, someone pointed out that, um, that
00:36:18 America is very capitalistic society yet are pro sports team are socialist and communist
00:36:24 and their salary caps.
00:36:25 And there's only so much you can pay guys and all that sort of thing.
00:36:27 And then Europe's the opposite.
00:36:28 And I was like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, that's deep.
00:36:33 That's Saudi Arabia can buy.
00:36:34 Whoa, that's crazy.
00:36:36 It is crazy.
00:36:38 How much do you, how much do you mourn the, the, I mean, that's where that seems to be
00:36:42 the NFL discourse right now is like the, the, the running back stuff.
00:36:45 Um, how much does, you know, I know you're a fullback guy, that's part of your brand.
00:36:49 Fullbacks have been gone for a while, but they've been gone for a while.
00:36:51 They made a comeback.
00:36:52 How much, how much, like in all seriousness, do you think that this is like, do you think
00:36:55 this is like a sad moment for football?
00:36:58 Do you think this is like a, whatever, you know, like it's just like part of life.
00:37:03 Like what, like what are your feelings towards where we're at?
00:37:05 We're like running backs are getting paid nothing and don't matter anymore.
00:37:08 So, so by the letter of the law and the way that the contracts are drawn up, it makes
00:37:12 sense.
00:37:13 It makes complete sense where you can get a guy and keep them for three years in his
00:37:18 prime, which for running backs is like 25, 26, 27 years old.
00:37:22 And you hear about a running back being 28 and you're like, Ooh, yeah, guys, ancient,
00:37:26 you know, get them out of here.
00:37:28 Uh, and it w it would make sense because their productivity does decline big time after that
00:37:32 age.
00:37:33 So it kind of sucks, but maybe it's just like, we remember sports in a different way because
00:37:38 everyone remembers sports the way that it was when they were growing up.
00:37:41 And so, yeah, there were great, the bell cow running back, every team had to have a great
00:37:45 running back if you want it to compete.
00:37:47 And now you just don't, you know, the way that the game's played right now, you don't
00:37:49 need a great running back at all.
00:37:51 So unfortunately the way that everything's working, they don't really have a lot of leverage
00:37:55 unless you take away the franchise tag in that case.
00:37:58 Yeah.
00:37:59 You can get a running back and can produce for a couple of years, get paid at least one
00:38:03 season where they're making great money.
00:38:06 And then they get a chance to hit the, uh, well now it's like you get paid one year where
00:38:10 you're making good money on the franchise tag.
00:38:12 And that one year the drop off is so sharp between like 26, 27, 28 that they don't really,
00:38:18 you will never give a big multi-year deal to a 28 year old running back.
00:38:22 Yeah.
00:38:23 But you would give a big deal to a 27 year old running back maybe, or a 26 year old.
00:38:28 You could give them like three or four years.
00:38:30 So just get them to free agency faster is, is the way that I think that it should be.
00:38:34 But um, it's been, I'd say the last like 15 years, it's pretty much been, unless you're
00:38:40 one of the top two, three running backs in the league, um, you gotta be able to catch
00:38:44 the ball.
00:38:45 So you just become useful in the passing game too.
00:38:48 And those have been some of the best running backs that we've had.
00:38:50 It's just a, an evolution of the game where I don't, it's not going to go back because
00:38:54 it's based around the ultimate goal, which is to get more ratings and more money for
00:38:59 the right.
00:39:00 And the league knows passing brings money.
00:39:03 Right.
00:39:04 So high scoring games, nobody wants to watch a 17 to 10 game, but they'll watch a 50 to
00:39:09 40 game and they'll love it.
00:39:11 And if every game gets to be like that, then that's good for the bottom line.
00:39:14 So we're gonna make all our rule changes to favor quarterbacks, wide receivers, and kind
00:39:19 of leave the running backs.
00:39:20 And this is what the NBA did 10 years ago.
00:39:23 And then they turned it up to 11 where it's like, if there's a game that's 160 to 150,
00:39:28 they tell everybody that was the greatest basketball game ever.
00:39:31 Yeah.
00:39:32 I mean, look how good these guys are.
00:39:34 Is there a world though, because the comparison between running backs and big men and the
00:39:38 NBA seems pretty astute.
00:39:40 I would say, you know, like that seems to be a good comparison here.
00:39:43 And there's like a, I don't know how I like a counter thought or like a, maybe it's just
00:39:49 people holding out hope that there could be a world in basketball where as everybody becomes
00:39:54 so perimeter oriented and everybody becomes so jump shot oriented and all this sort of
00:39:58 thing that if there is a modern day Shaquille O'Neal that comes along and guys, other teams
00:40:05 don't have like, nobody's used to seeing this.
00:40:07 It's been 20, 30, 40 years since we've seen a force like this in basketball because every
00:40:12 big man coming up now wants to shoot threes and wants to put the ball on the floor and
00:40:16 holy shit, there's a guy that's just ripping the rim off and, you know, bullying everybody.
00:40:21 Maybe there's a world where the NBA could pivot back because you got to find like the
00:40:26 thing that other people aren't doing.
00:40:28 Do you think there could be, could there be like a, an Adrian Peterson type guy or like
00:40:32 a Derrick Henry would probably be the candidate now where like Derrick Henry bucks the trend
00:40:36 where it's like Derrick Henry is 34 years old and he's pushing 2000 yards somehow.
00:40:41 And like, I don't know, I'm just, I'm just like hypothetically trying to think of a situation
00:40:45 where like every defense is because passing is so predominant in football that every defense
00:40:50 is built to stop passing that like there's one coach out there that's like, fuck it,
00:40:53 we're going back to the eighties and nineties and we're running it down teams throats cause
00:40:56 they're not going to have, you know, a middle linebacker that can meet us in the gap and
00:41:01 stop this running back.
00:41:02 I think we just have to wait for the Steelers to do it.
00:41:04 Yeah, it would be the Steelers Steelers.
00:41:06 Yeah.
00:41:07 They just got to spend all their draft picks on interior linemen.
00:41:09 Yeah.
00:41:10 Get an awesome running back fullback traps and shit back traps.
00:41:13 Yeah.
00:41:14 Break out the old school playbook, dust it off.
00:41:16 Zig.
00:41:17 Well, everybody else that, yeah, I think the Steelers would either have to do it or, I
00:41:20 mean in basketball, the reason why the game changed is because like 10 years ago they
00:41:25 remembered that three points.
00:41:26 Yeah.
00:41:27 It was Steph Curry taught us all that.
00:41:28 Yeah.
00:41:29 Nobody had any idea.
00:41:30 We forgot it.
00:41:31 And that's a, that's a big difference.
00:41:32 So you got to make, I don't know, like a running back touchdowns.
00:41:35 If you run the football running back touchdowns are worth eight.
00:41:37 Yeah.
00:41:38 Oh yeah.
00:41:39 Are there worth, were there worth seven and then the extra point brings it to eight.
00:41:42 So it's like a touchdown with a two put with an easier two point conversion.
00:41:46 Remember it happened with football.
00:41:47 I remember football was dying.
00:41:50 I remember, yeah.
00:41:51 Do you remember that?
00:41:52 Yeah.
00:41:53 Football was dead.
00:41:54 I remember like everyone, uh, all the nerds in the world were like, I don't want my kid
00:42:00 playing football.
00:42:01 And if my kid's not playing football, what's going to happen in 20 years when they need
00:42:04 people to play football and then guess what?
00:42:06 My kid's not playing.
00:42:07 So there goes football.
00:42:08 Obama's hypothetical son would not be allowed.
00:42:11 Yeah.
00:42:12 They asked him like, remember when that was?
00:42:14 Yeah.
00:42:15 Of course you remember.
00:42:16 And now nobody talks about that anymore.
00:42:18 How did the NFL do this?
00:42:19 Roger Goodell.
00:42:20 He's just, he's, he's done more to solve concussions than anybody else on the face of the planet
00:42:25 except for probably Tom Brady who just said, drink, drink enough water and that's why I
00:42:29 get concussed.
00:42:30 Maybe we should cut this part cause I'm really like, I'm very pro football.
00:42:33 I am not a, as John Gruden, I am not that.
00:42:39 So I don't want to come across as that.
00:42:41 I just find it felt like that.
00:42:42 I just remember that was like what you talked about with football was like these concussions
00:42:47 are going to do, there's going to be a, uh, there's going to be a future where Congress
00:42:50 is going to step in.
00:42:51 They're going to say that if you are under 18 years old, you cannot legally play football.
00:42:55 It's too barbaric.
00:42:56 It's too gruesome.
00:42:57 This was what people talked about.
00:42:58 So more 2012, 2013 that was somewhere along the line.
00:43:01 It was like a snap of a finger.
00:43:03 Everyone's like, eh, fuck all that.
00:43:04 We were, we were joking.
00:43:05 We don't care.
00:43:06 But if you still watch football, there's still guys getting concussed like crazy.
00:43:08 Yeah.
00:43:09 Yeah.
00:43:10 They're down, I don't know, like 10% but they've, they've just,
00:43:12 Are you still like if you're a high school kid playing football, I don't know if those
00:43:16 concussions are down.
00:43:17 Yeah.
00:43:18 I think so.
00:43:19 I go back to when I was a kid playing youth sports with football.
00:43:22 It was very different from every other sport.
00:43:24 I grew up in the nineties.
00:43:26 We talk about the nineties right now.
00:43:28 Like it was forever ago when it comes to medical advancements, you hear people say all the
00:43:32 time like, well, knowing what we know now about concussions and traumatic brain injuries,
00:43:37 we can say we're doing things wrong in the nineties.
00:43:39 I played basketball.
00:43:40 I played baseball.
00:43:41 I played soccer.
00:43:42 I played football growing up.
00:43:44 Football was the only sport where the coaches were like, fuck that.
00:43:47 Get back in the game.
00:43:48 Yeah.
00:43:49 It was like, here's a culture thing around football.
00:43:50 Yes.
00:43:51 In soccer.
00:43:52 I remember I was a goalie.
00:43:53 I hit my head on the post one time I got a concussion and the coach came out and he was
00:43:56 like, you're concussed.
00:43:57 You're out of the game.
00:43:58 Right.
00:43:59 I couldn't practice for like a week and a half, two weeks until I felt better.
00:44:02 In other sports basketball, I had teammates that got concussions.
00:44:04 They were out of the game.
00:44:05 They didn't get put back in.
00:44:06 Football was the only sport where they were like, rub some dirt on it.
00:44:09 Right.
00:44:10 So it wasn't really a medical science issue.
00:44:12 We knew that everybody knew.
00:44:14 Questions were bad at the time.
00:44:15 Yeah.
00:44:16 And so the NFL, uh, they got themselves into a lot of hot water because they basically
00:44:20 tried to bury the evidence of it.
00:44:22 Yeah.
00:44:23 So that's, that's bad.
00:44:24 That's like 2012, 2013.
00:44:25 That's when the settlement came out when they were like, okay, everyone that's ever played
00:44:28 football get here's 50 bucks.
00:44:30 Yeah.
00:44:31 Here's a $50 gift card to the NFL store.
00:44:35 Yeah, exactly.
00:44:36 We'll get you, we'll have a doctor stop by your house.
00:44:40 But it was that at that point people were very mad at the NFL and they were like, well,
00:44:45 what are you going to do to fix the concussion problem?
00:44:47 And you're never going to fix the concussion problem in football.
00:44:49 It's right.
00:44:50 You can, you can do things to make it better.
00:44:51 I guess they're trying to take the big hits out of the game.
00:44:53 I think personally, and also I didn't start playing rugby until I was in college.
00:44:59 That was mid two thousands and rugby.
00:45:02 Same thing.
00:45:03 They knew you have a concussion, you're out of the game.
00:45:05 Yeah.
00:45:06 We got to take you out.
00:45:07 Obviously some guys would lie about that and try to get back in or whatever.
00:45:10 But rugby has a smart rule where if you make a tackle, if you're trying to tackle somebody,
00:45:16 you have to make an attempt to wrap your arms around them.
00:45:18 You have to try to wrap up.
00:45:19 Yeah.
00:45:20 You can't go flying in with a shoulder or a forearm unless it's rugby league, which
00:45:23 is a different kind of sport.
00:45:25 But when you see 15 on 15 rugby, you have to try to wrap your arms around them.
00:45:30 And that is a good natural way of trying to take some of the big head to head collisions
00:45:35 out of that.
00:45:36 It makes sense actually.
00:45:39 That does seem like it would be a...
00:45:40 I mean, I know next to nothing about it, but yeah.
00:45:43 I think back on my football career in high school, I got a thousand concussions.
00:45:46 I mean, it was crazy.
00:45:48 And that was the first time in my life...
00:45:49 Yeah, the first time I ever heard the phrase, "Are you hurt or are you injured?" was a football
00:45:52 coach.
00:45:53 It was not...
00:45:54 I love that.
00:45:55 My basketball coach never...
00:45:56 It was just like, "Can you play?"
00:45:57 And I was like, "I don't...
00:45:58 Yeah."
00:45:59 And they're like, "All right."
00:46:00 So you'd sprain your ankle even, and they'd be like, "Can you go?"
00:46:03 And I'd be like, "I don't think I can put weight on it."
00:46:05 And they're like, "All right, cool.
00:46:06 Moving on."
00:46:07 Football coach is the one sitting you down like, "Son, this is less about this football
00:46:11 game, and it's more about your life."
00:46:12 Yeah.
00:46:13 Like, "Is this who you want to be?"
00:46:14 Yeah, you have a decision to make right now of what kind of person you want to be.
00:46:17 And I'm like, "I'm the fucking punter."
00:46:21 This high school football coach was concerned about his own job.
00:46:24 Yeah, right, right.
00:46:25 He's like, "Are they going to hire me again next year?
00:46:27 I got to get this 15-year-old back in the game ASAP."
00:46:31 I had some hilarious high school football coaches.
00:46:33 Every now and again, like once every couple years, I'll just ask people to send me their
00:46:37 funniest stories of things that their high school football coaches tried to teach them
00:46:41 in practice and different shit they'd pull off.
00:46:45 One of my high school football coaches, he was a wide receivers coach, this was like
00:46:49 maybe second, third week of practice.
00:46:51 It was still training camp in the summer.
00:46:53 And our coach has given us a big speech at the end of practice.
00:46:56 Everyone's on a knee, "Take a knee, boys."
00:46:57 We all took a knee, probably said a prayer for some reason.
00:47:00 And then he started talking to us about what we need to do better.
00:47:04 And our wide receivers coach just stood up behind him and just took his nutsack out and
00:47:09 just started going, "Ahh, ahh," wiggling his nuts at all of us.
00:47:13 And so we all started cracking up.
00:47:15 And then after like 30 seconds, our coach turns around and the guy puts his nuts away.
00:47:21 Our coach didn't see it.
00:47:22 And then he turns around and keeps talking to us, breaks the balls out again, "Ahh."
00:47:26 And then after that practice, we're like, "Dude, he's hilarious.
00:47:29 That guy is so funny."
00:47:30 And then you get a little bit older, you're like, "That was a 27-year-old just taking
00:47:35 their nuts out and showing it to a bunch of 15-year-olds."
00:47:38 That's kind of weird.
00:47:39 It's best to not revisit the cool adults at your high school now, now that you're an adult.
00:47:46 It's best to just keep that memory locked as like, "That guy was cool."
00:47:50 Because if you revisit it, it is alarming.
00:47:53 That guy was also a substitute teacher and I think he got fired for dating a student.
00:47:59 One of the cool guys at my high school, one of the cool teachers at my high school, he
00:48:03 was cool.
00:48:04 He wasn't like those other teachers.
00:48:05 He was one of the cool ones.
00:48:06 Banged multiple students.
00:48:07 It's so weird.
00:48:08 It's so weird thinking about it.
00:48:09 And honestly, I mean, I hate this about myself, but when you hear it, like when I was a senior
00:48:15 in high school and I was the guy that was like, "Nice."
00:48:18 I was like, "Damn, that's pretty fucking sick."
00:48:21 That dude's got mad games.
00:48:22 I've been trying to bang those girls for years, dude.
00:48:25 You just...
00:48:26 Chicks love older dudes.
00:48:27 That's respect.
00:48:28 There's another high school football coach story, a famous one.
00:48:32 It goes viral from time to time.
00:48:34 This guy, he tried different motivational stunts to get his team up for their biggest
00:48:37 games of the season every year.
00:48:39 And they got progressively stranger and stranger.
00:48:43 And one year, he had students get into a fake fight in the hallway in front of his team
00:48:48 while his team was in a meeting.
00:48:50 And he goes out in the hallway and breaks them up.
00:48:53 And then he has one of the students take out a gun and shoot him.
00:48:57 And it was a cap gun, but this is a motivational stunt.
00:49:00 And then he puts fake blood on them.
00:49:03 And then his students call 911 because they're like, "Oh shit, our coach just got shot."
00:49:09 And then he stood up and wiped himself off.
00:49:11 He's like, "You got to be willing to do whatever it takes."
00:49:14 And he got fired after that one.
00:49:15 He was like, "Yeah, I might have gone a little bit too far."
00:49:19 And maybe the worst part was he...
00:49:20 So it was a majority white school.
00:49:22 He got one of the only black students in the entire school to be the kid that pretended
00:49:27 to shoot him in the hallway.
00:49:29 And he was trying to teach his kids a lesson about life, Mark.
00:49:31 We're trying to learn about being a good person or a bad person and what that means on the
00:49:36 football field as well as the football field of life.
00:49:39 Isn't that an arrested development, Gene?
00:49:43 Is it Parmesan?
00:49:44 Is that his...
00:49:45 Wasn't there like a...
00:49:46 Like where they taught the kids?
00:49:47 Yeah, I don't know.
00:49:48 I haven't seen arrested development in ages where you just fake deaths and then you're
00:49:53 like, "Aha, just kidding.
00:49:54 Not dead."
00:49:55 Yeah.
00:49:56 This guy also faked a heart attack in front of his kids a couple years before.
00:50:02 This is great.
00:50:03 You should do...
00:50:04 Have you ever done a podcast?
00:50:05 You should just do like a...
00:50:06 That's off-season content, dude.
00:50:07 It's just like have everybody write in, share the stories, and then just read them all on
00:50:11 the show and you guys should just riff on them.
00:50:13 Yes, best coach stories.
00:50:14 That's great PFT content.
00:50:15 It is good and I love all of them.
00:50:17 I love all of them so much.
00:50:18 I think I'd asked you about Washington Sports and then we went on like a crazy tan.
00:50:22 Oh yeah.
00:50:23 So D, dog shit for the Nationals.
00:50:25 Right.
00:50:26 The Capitals get a C for kind of crappy, but we got Ovechkin to watch, which is nice.
00:50:35 I would like to have Ovechkin win another Stanley Cup at the end of his career.
00:50:39 Probably not going to happen, but worst case scenario, I get two, three more years of watching
00:50:44 him chase Gretzky's goal record.
00:50:46 Are you a believer in the grace period after a title?
00:50:50 Yes.
00:50:51 If you won a title, you're not allowed to bitch about your team for X number of years.
00:50:54 For sure.
00:50:55 I'm in that camp with the Capitals right now.
00:50:57 I wanted it for so long.
00:50:58 I got it.
00:50:59 I can't complain about it anymore.
00:51:00 I just didn't want Ove to retire having been like the Dan Marino where it's like, yeah,
00:51:05 you never did anything.
00:51:06 You got the one.
00:51:07 Eventually, you're going to want another one.
00:51:09 You're like, all right, it's been long enough.
00:51:10 I'm the same way with the Cubs.
00:51:11 They won in 2016.
00:51:12 At this point, it's been seven years.
00:51:14 You're popping your head back up and you're like, am I allowed to say we should be better?
00:51:19 It sucks for the Cubs the way they dismantled that roster.
00:51:23 What really sucks about it beyond them giving up all the guys is that they were right about
00:51:27 basically every guy.
00:51:30 Because I think as fans, you want to be like, why did we do this?
00:51:32 You'd be mad at the front office.
00:51:34 But when they're right and they set the precedent, I don't know.
00:51:37 I hate that they were right about all these guys because I had the feeling I would rather
00:51:42 lose with guys I love almost than not fully.
00:51:48 If we're not going to win the World Series, I would rather not make the playoffs with
00:51:51 all the dudes that won the World Series for us.
00:51:52 You know what I mean?
00:51:53 I'd rather go down with the ship with my guys.
00:51:56 You can't stay mad at those guys.
00:51:57 Yeah.
00:51:58 Then finish second in the division every year with a bunch of dudes that their ex-bacon
00:52:02 is better than.
00:52:06 They were wrong about every person.
00:52:09 Maybe not Anthony Rendon because he's been injured for the most part, but when you look
00:52:12 around the league, it's very sad.
00:52:14 You can see Juan Soto is still a fucking monster.
00:52:17 This season he's been down a little bit, but he's still Juan Soto.
00:52:19 He's young.
00:52:20 He's going to be incredible.
00:52:21 He's going to be a great turner.
00:52:22 Still awesome player.
00:52:23 There's just a bunch of guys that we got rid of where I would very much still like to have
00:52:27 them on the Washington Nationals, but I'm going to give C for kind of crappy to the
00:52:32 Capitals.
00:52:33 Yeah, we're going to watch Ovi try to chase down Gretzky.
00:52:37 That's going to be fun.
00:52:38 I also learned today that Ovi's dog is also named Blake.
00:52:41 No.
00:52:42 Yeah.
00:52:43 There we go.
00:52:44 Pretty cool, right?
00:52:45 That's cool.
00:52:46 I'm going to give C for the Capitals and then W for who cares to the Wizards.
00:52:51 I was this close, Mark.
00:52:52 I was this close to becoming a diehard Wizards fan again during the draft lottery when the
00:52:58 Wizards had like a 60% chance when it came down to it to get Wimby and then they lost
00:53:02 on the last lottery ball.
00:53:04 That was, I mean, the NBA, if we're being honest, probably should not have allowed Wimby
00:53:09 to go to DC.
00:53:11 But I don't think, here's a good question.
00:53:13 Can you name a more irrelevant franchise in any sport except hockey because there's a
00:53:19 bunch of irrelevant franchises in hockey, in baseball, basketball, football, a team
00:53:25 that's been more irrelevant to the conversation, the national conversation around the league
00:53:30 in the last five years than the Washington Wizards?
00:53:34 I'm trying to think of who the candidates would be.
00:53:37 The Oakland A's, but they're moving and now people are actually talking about them.
00:53:43 Yeah.
00:53:44 No, I think the Wizards are in a, you're absolutely, there's like nothing interesting about them
00:53:50 at all.
00:53:51 It's not even, they're not even so bad they're interesting.
00:53:53 It's not even one of those deals.
00:53:56 You could, until this year, you could have said maybe the Kings.
00:53:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:00 But Kings are very much, yeah, I don't know who the, like the Pistons are, but the Pistons.
00:54:08 They got some nice young pieces.
00:54:09 They got some nice young pieces now and they got the number one pick and like, yeah, the
00:54:11 Pistons are exciting.
00:54:12 Yeah.
00:54:13 Basketball, it's definitely the Wizards because who cares?
00:54:16 Who cares?
00:54:17 Yeah.
00:54:18 Who cares?
00:54:19 And it's sad because, well, it's not really like the Wizards, they were always definitely
00:54:22 like my fourth favorite team or third favorite team before we got the Nats growing up.
00:54:26 Yeah.
00:54:27 But I thought of a team, the Vancouver Whitecaps, I would say there, I would say the MLS.
00:54:30 Yeah.
00:54:31 MLS.
00:54:32 Yeah.
00:54:33 Good point.
00:54:34 Yeah.
00:54:35 Good point.
00:54:36 I had to do a second.
00:54:37 I was like, is that the cricket team?
00:54:38 Yeah.
00:54:39 Yeah.
00:54:40 Yeah.
00:54:41 The Wizards, that's like the worst, that purgatory is like the worst spot to be in
00:54:44 because it's almost like more, it's not, but like you want to romanticize it.
00:54:49 It's almost better to just be like so dog shit that that's your brand.
00:54:52 Like the Browns, for example, that are just like, they've been horrible forever, but like
00:54:57 that's the brand of the Browns.
00:54:58 And like, it's just like this constant cycle of like talking yourself into maybe we'll
00:55:02 get over the hump, whatever.
00:55:03 I think if you're really that bad, there's almost like a pride that develops within your
00:55:08 fan base.
00:55:09 Right.
00:55:10 Where you say to everybody, I'm, I'm a loyal fan.
00:55:11 I come out through thick and thin.
00:55:13 I'm going to be here when you're just like the Wizards have been where they're bad, but
00:55:17 they're not grossly bad.
00:55:19 Then they're boring bad.
00:55:20 And so you don't even have that.
00:55:22 If the Wizards miraculously made the Eastern conference finals next year, I still don't
00:55:25 think anybody in DC would care.
00:55:27 Anybody like nationally would care.
00:55:28 They would just be like, all right, cool.
00:55:30 Whatever.
00:55:31 Like, like it would take, it almost like take like the number one pick winning a tie.
00:55:34 Like it's gotta be something seismic like that.
00:55:36 Like you got to win a title now somehow, which isn't going to happen anytime soon.
00:55:40 Get the number one.
00:55:41 Yeah.
00:55:42 If they would've got Wimby, that would have, that would have done it to like make some
00:55:44 sort of excitement, but yeah.
00:55:46 Change the name back to the bullets.
00:55:47 Change the name back to the bullets.
00:55:49 Dan Snyder buys the Wizards.
00:55:50 Yeah.
00:55:51 Good.
00:55:52 Go for it.
00:55:53 Dan.
00:55:54 This is a Washington Redskins.
00:55:55 Yeah.
00:55:56 Yeah.
00:55:57 You get changed.
00:55:58 There we go.
00:55:59 Fulfill all your wildest dreams.
00:56:00 I do think that what they're doing this year is it's kind of smart.
00:56:02 I don't know.
00:56:03 You probably don't follow along that closely with Wizards.
00:56:05 I'll forgive you if you don't.
00:56:06 I'm sorry.
00:56:07 I have not.
00:56:08 They got a GM.
00:56:09 Their new GM is from Oklahoma city by way of the Clippers.
00:56:12 So he knows he makes moves and he knows how to symbol a competent basketball team, I think.
00:56:18 And what they did this off season, Chris Paul, wizard for life.
00:56:21 He had a great stay in DC.
00:56:24 But then they got Jordan pool, which I like because if you're going to be Jordan pool
00:56:28 is a perfect guy to have as your number one option on a team that you want to absolutely
00:56:32 destroy.
00:56:33 Right.
00:56:34 They're going to win 25 points a game at times and they're going to win like 25 percent
00:56:38 of their game.
00:56:39 Great tanking number one option.
00:56:40 Yeah.
00:56:41 He's going to be entertaining.
00:56:42 He's going to have one or two games where he scores 40 plus in a loss.
00:56:48 Yeah.
00:56:49 And a loss.
00:56:50 Yeah.
00:56:51 Just like this is this guy's awesome.
00:56:52 He's going to have wildly inefficient 40 point game.
00:56:53 Yeah.
00:56:54 At times.
00:56:55 But yeah, it's if you're going to be bad, be really bad.
00:56:57 And I think that we're trying to be really.
00:56:58 Yeah.
00:56:59 So who does that leave?
00:57:00 Then we talked about the commanders, the commanders.
00:57:02 I put I put hope in the commanders at an A plus.
00:57:06 I'm giving it a plus hope.
00:57:08 That's exciting.
00:57:09 It is exciting.
00:57:10 And talk to me in a year.
00:57:11 I'll probably be like, OK, well, B plus.
00:57:12 So downgraded it by that.
00:57:13 But at this point where it's like we're fun, we've got we've got a quarterback in Sam Howell
00:57:19 that probably won't be good.
00:57:21 But if he's good, how awesome would that be?
00:57:22 Yeah.
00:57:23 He was.
00:57:24 People forget Stephen Che.
00:57:25 I'm going to I'm putting this entire season on Stephen Che.
00:57:28 Yeah.
00:57:29 I like Sam Howell as his number one overall draft pick right after the previous draft
00:57:34 and ended.
00:57:35 So his way too soon.
00:57:36 We had draft.
00:57:37 Yeah.
00:57:38 He had Sam Howell number one.
00:57:39 So we go by Stephen Che's metrics on the Washington commanders.
00:57:42 If Sam Howell is a bust, I'm blaming all my misfortune on him.
00:57:45 Now that you're a Chicago resident, I guess this could have applied to New York.
00:57:48 But I feel like New York and D.C. have more.
00:57:51 I might be talking about it, talking on my ass, but I feel like on the East Coast, it's
00:57:54 a little more sacrilege to do what I'm going to ask.
00:57:59 But now that you're a Chicago resident, does any part of you want to root for the local
00:58:03 teams?
00:58:04 Not to say not to say get rid of your teams.
00:58:07 I'm not saying it's going to supersede.
00:58:08 I'm just saying, are you going to have a soft spot for the Bears and the Bulls and the Blackhawks
00:58:13 and the Cubs and White Sox?
00:58:15 And I think that's all the Blackhawks.
00:58:17 Definitely, because they play in the other conference.
00:58:19 So they're out there in the West.
00:58:21 So I can root for them.
00:58:22 OK, I can root for the Blackhawks.
00:58:23 I feel good about that.
00:58:24 Which is pretty good.
00:58:25 That's a cool old school NHL deal where the Blackhawks are still West Western Conference.
00:58:30 They like to go with that.
00:58:31 And it makes zero sense when you look at a map.
00:58:33 But if I squint real hard, I'm like, is this the Redskins?
00:58:37 Yeah, maybe.
00:58:39 Maybe unless they go woke.
00:58:40 Yeah, that's actually so you can make the argument.
00:58:43 Teddy Roosevelt turned football into the woke football that we see today because too many
00:58:48 guys were dying of concussions.
00:58:49 Yeah, I forget how many college kids died of concussions.
00:58:52 A couple guys because they were just playing like ram your head into the other guy's neck
00:58:55 football.
00:58:56 And so everyone there were a bunch of deaths.
00:58:58 And then Teddy Roosevelt was like, OK, we need to change some of the rules that happen
00:59:01 nowadays.
00:59:02 But Teddy went woke boycotting.
00:59:03 We're going to we're going to budge.
00:59:05 You never.
00:59:06 Yeah, yeah.
00:59:07 The concussion deal.
00:59:08 Not to I mean, we can't we don't need the to belabor it.
00:59:12 But I will say one of the more bizarre experiences as a sportsman where I like disassociate and
00:59:19 I'm like, man, if aliens were observing us, I can't imagine how confused they would be
00:59:23 is like an opening kickoff.
00:59:26 A guy gets lit up, returning the kick, and he's just laying on the ground.
00:59:30 He's can cut like whatever.
00:59:31 It's like a serious injury.
00:59:33 Everyone's like on one knee, you know, like the helmets are off, we're on a knee or wait.
00:59:38 They put the guy on a stretcher and they they wheel him off the field.
00:59:42 And every single time the fans will start clapping when you have no we don't have any
00:59:48 sign whether this guy is good or not.
00:59:50 Maybe the thumbs up.
00:59:51 You might get the thumbs up.
00:59:52 Maybe you give a thumbs up, which like I get you clap at that.
00:59:54 But this happens every single football season, two or three times that I see where like a
00:59:58 guy like we don't have any.
01:00:00 We have no idea whether this guy is good or not, like in terms of his health and everybody's
01:00:05 clapping.
01:00:06 And I always think like, what must aliens observing think that like everyone's clap
01:00:10 to get this fucker off to finally get him off the field so we can get back to football?
01:00:14 You know, they must feel like, oh, I don't want to fuck with these people.
01:00:16 Yeah, yeah.
01:00:17 These guys are maniacs.
01:00:18 Anyway, I have that.
01:00:21 I'm going to have that thought at some point this football team.
01:00:23 But anyway, yeah, Teddy Roosevelt would have canceled football.
01:00:27 He would cancel football for sure.
01:00:28 Yeah, I because I mentioned to Dave White Sox, Dave is that this might be a shock to
01:00:33 you.
01:00:34 He did not exactly have like a progressive thought on this or like a kumbaya thought
01:00:36 on this.
01:00:38 But I mentioned that as a Cubs fan, I think I will have a soft spot for the White Sox
01:00:43 because not that I'm a White Sox fan, but I'm going to cheer for the White.
01:00:47 Like, I've never really fully understood the White Sox.
01:00:49 Yeah, that's what that's what brought it up was talking about John Cusack because I was
01:00:52 like, I don't.
01:00:54 Can you explain to me, Dave, what the problem was?
01:00:55 I'm new to Chicago.
01:00:56 Like, is there really a rivalry?
01:00:58 I didn't really when I was growing up, they never played each other literally did not
01:01:01 play each other because they were in American League National League.
01:01:05 And he was like, you can't do that.
01:01:06 You got to pick your team and the other team doesn't.
01:01:08 And I was like, can't some part of you be like, I you know, all things being if the
01:01:12 White Sox are playing the Dodgers in the World Series, why can't I cheer for the local
01:01:16 boys over like those assholes in L.A.?
01:01:20 You know, what do you think?
01:01:22 I mean, is that that's it sounds reasonable.
01:01:25 But that's the problem is sports fandom.
01:01:27 What's not reasonable?
01:01:28 Once you bring reason in the sports fandom, you've lost.
01:01:30 It sounds right.
01:01:31 People always talk about if they if they can change what team they root for.
01:01:35 Like if you are a city that's gone through a lot of bad losses, I'm not going to say
01:01:39 the Falcons by name, but if you are a Falcons fan, can you stop rooting for the Falcons
01:01:44 and start rooting for a different team?
01:01:46 I'm I don't think that your heart will ever truly be in it.
01:01:49 If you really did grow up a Falcons fan, you have to either buy property in that city or
01:01:54 actually you should have to go to jail for a year.
01:01:58 If you want to if you want to change up from being a Falcons fan to, let's say, being a
01:02:02 Saints fan, if you want to switch intra division, intra division seems like you should have
01:02:06 to go to jail in New Orleans for one year and then you can come out and now you can
01:02:11 be a Saints fan.
01:02:12 There should be a punishment.
01:02:13 But when it comes to rooting for two teams from the same city.
01:02:15 Yeah, I mean, it does sound reasonable, but is your heart would your heart truly be in
01:02:20 rooting for the White Sox?
01:02:21 It would not.
01:02:22 It was just more of like all things being equal.
01:02:24 The Cubs are out of the playoffs.
01:02:25 You're rooting for the local party.
01:02:26 I'm rooting for the local boys.
01:02:28 You're rooting for the city.
01:02:29 Yeah, I'm rooting for the city.
01:02:30 I'm rooting for.
01:02:31 OK, because I adopted this when I moved to L.A. that I noticed that the city like when
01:02:35 I moved to Los Angeles, the Lakers, I'm not saying it's me.
01:02:37 A lot of people are.
01:02:38 If you want to continue to say it, I'm not going to stop you.
01:02:41 But I don't think it was me.
01:02:42 But as soon as I moved to L.A., the Lakers won a title.
01:02:44 The Dodgers won a title.
01:02:45 The Rams won a title.
01:02:47 And that city was just objectively like more fun to live in and nicer to live in.
01:02:52 As dumb as it is, sports spoilers.
01:02:54 Harvey Weinstein went to jail.
01:02:55 Harvey Weinstein went to jail when I moved out there.
01:02:59 Spoiler alert, like people care about sports and like when the team's sucking, people are
01:03:03 like more inclined to be assholes when they're not.
01:03:06 They're more they're happier.
01:03:07 Yeah.
01:03:08 So that's kind of where my attitude is moving to Chicago.
01:03:10 I'm like, yeah, of course, I'm going to cheer for the if the Bears win the Super Bowl as
01:03:12 I live in Chicago, how fun will that summer be after the Bears win the Super Bowl?
01:03:17 It'd be so fucking awesome.
01:03:18 I agree.
01:03:19 Of course, I'm going to cheer for that.
01:03:20 I think you can root for the city.
01:03:21 I think you can because you're not just rooting for the team.
01:03:23 You're rooting for just your life to be cool.
01:03:26 I'm rooting for myself.
01:03:27 Ultimately, like I'm not rooting for the I'm rooting for my life to be better.
01:03:30 Yeah.
01:03:31 Yeah.
01:03:32 You don't don't get into any like bar debates with somebody about who the best third baseman
01:03:34 of the 90s.
01:03:35 Yeah.
01:03:36 The White Sox was don't you don't you shouldn't act like you have always been.
01:03:39 Don't do the thing where you're like, you know, I did go to a couple of White Sox games
01:03:43 growing up, so I liked them, too.
01:03:44 No, no, no, no.
01:03:45 Don't say that would just be like, I'm rooting for the city.
01:03:46 Yeah, because I'm rooting for the bartender at my bar around the corner to give me a free
01:03:51 beer because the Bears just won six in a row.
01:03:53 Yeah.
01:03:54 Like, I'm in a good mood.
01:03:55 Here's a free beer.
01:03:56 You know, that's what I was on.
01:03:57 This was that's what I'm rooting for.
01:03:59 I think that a lot of people do have.
01:04:02 I don't know if anybody out there can relate to at least me on this point.
01:04:06 But when I was growing up, I didn't have a hometown baseball team.
01:04:09 I had the Orioles, which were two hours away, hour and a half away.
01:04:13 I would go to their game sometime, but it wasn't it wasn't like I was from Baltimore.
01:04:16 I wasn't a Baltimore Orioles fan.
01:04:18 I grew up watching whatever was on TV.
01:04:20 So I watched the Braves.
01:04:22 Right.
01:04:23 And I watched the Cubs.
01:04:24 The Cubs.
01:04:25 Yeah.
01:04:26 And I feel like a lot of people have a soft spot for the Cubs for specifically that reason.
01:04:30 Yeah.
01:04:31 Growing up watching Harry Carey.
01:04:32 That's why that's how I became a Cubs fan in Indiana.
01:04:33 Same thing.
01:04:34 We didn't have a team.
01:04:35 We have a major league team.
01:04:36 And it's already close enough to where you could like, you know, squint close and you're
01:04:39 like, we're kind of a suburb of Chicago, right?
01:04:41 And that's and yeah, that's how I became a Cubs fan is you could watch every single one
01:04:46 of their games.
01:04:47 But Harry Carey getting drunk by like the sixth inning.
01:04:49 So good.
01:04:50 Yeah.
01:04:51 So the best Harry Carey would never get a job these days.
01:04:52 Like he broke every rule about being a good baseball announcer.
01:04:57 But he was so unique that he had been doing it for a while and everyone was like, yeah,
01:05:00 we love this guy.
01:05:01 We love this guy.
01:05:02 But what I'm saying is a guy like that would never get a chance.
01:05:03 He would.
01:05:04 Yeah, you're right.
01:05:05 I mean, he was just rambling shit face.
01:05:08 We got a Jake Marsh clone that we can plug in.
01:05:09 Yeah, exactly.
01:05:10 No offense to Jake Marsh.
01:05:11 No offense to Jake Marsh, but I would rather listen to Harry Carey call Cubs game.
01:05:15 Yes, exactly.
01:05:16 Controversial maybe, but that's where I stand on it.
01:05:19 Jake is good.
01:05:20 He's he's buttoned up and he's the most prepared person in the world for anything.
01:05:24 But at the end of the day, Harry Carey brings he brings the X factor that you don't get
01:05:28 from somebody that goes to journalism school.
01:05:31 Harry Carey would never actually.
01:05:32 Where did he go?
01:05:33 He peeled his shirt one time.
01:05:34 Maybe more than once, but I just like I know it happened at least once.
01:05:37 He peeled his shirt and sat out in the bleachers and broadcast a game from the bleachers with
01:05:41 the shirt off.
01:05:42 Yeah, I'll feel dude.
01:05:43 Yeah, right.
01:05:44 Incredible.
01:05:45 Look up where Harry Carey went to went to college.
01:05:46 College, the school of hard knock.
01:05:48 He went to college in the booth.
01:05:50 Probably probably was like World War Two.
01:05:52 He was 16 years old calling Cardinals games or something.
01:05:55 I didn't go to college.
01:05:56 I served.
01:05:57 Yeah.
01:05:58 Let's see his career.
01:06:01 He caught his break when he landed.
01:06:02 Apparently, Harry Carey, according to Wikipedia, didn't really exist before he started working
01:06:06 in baseball, which I like to see all those guys back then.
01:06:09 Like there weren't there weren't you didn't go to Syracuse or Northwestern or Missouri
01:06:14 to get into sports journalism.
01:06:15 You just like you're just a guy that was like on the street and available.
01:06:20 I really do think they were just hiring like homeless dudes and unemployed dudes are like
01:06:24 we need someone to call the games.
01:06:26 Can you do it?
01:06:27 And the guy's like, I'm an accountant.
01:06:28 I can't.
01:06:29 I mean, I watch the Cubs, but I can't quit my job to call these games.
01:06:32 And then there's like some drunk homeless dude is like, I'll do it.
01:06:34 So this is great.
01:06:36 So Harry Carey offered he was offered a spot in the University of Alabama baseball team.
01:06:42 What?
01:06:43 But he was he was too poor.
01:06:45 So he couldn't go.
01:06:46 And World War Two broke out and Harry Carey tried to enlist in the army.
01:06:52 They wouldn't let him in due to his poor eyesight.
01:06:55 Oh, my God.
01:06:56 So he couldn't play baseball.
01:06:58 He couldn't serve.
01:06:59 So he got into broadcasting to be around baseball.
01:07:03 So where did you serve Harry Carey?
01:07:05 He literally served his country in the broadcast booth.
01:07:08 He did.
01:07:09 Yeah.
01:07:10 Stepping up because they probably lost all their announcers.
01:07:11 He couldn't fight overseas.
01:07:13 All the announcers went to fight overseas.
01:07:15 Listen, we did.
01:07:16 We needed an announcer.
01:07:17 Hitler was bad.
01:07:18 Right.
01:07:19 I agree.
01:07:20 Hitler's bad.
01:07:21 Could not agree more.
01:07:22 Period.
01:07:23 Could not agree more.
01:07:24 But without each man taking over.
01:07:27 Do we ever get Harry Carey calling baseball games?
01:07:29 I don't.
01:07:30 OK, I'll just I don't I don't.
01:07:33 I'm thinking about it.
01:07:34 And I got to say, I don't know if that was a good trade off.
01:07:37 I don't know.
01:07:38 I'm going to say, I think, yeah, I think I would.
01:07:42 I would trade not having the Holocaust for also not having Harry Carey.
01:07:46 That's a good point.
01:07:47 I think that's where I stand on.
01:07:48 I got ahead of my skis a little bit.
01:07:49 But you could say the Archduke Franz Ferdinand being assassinated by Gabrielle Prince.
01:07:55 Under Domino's tip, Harry Carey becomes broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs.
01:08:00 What are you obsessed with right now?
01:08:01 History wise.
01:08:02 So I was I was just doing macros in a second.
01:08:05 We talked about the Revolutionary War, which I really don't.
01:08:07 I never really cared that much about growing up because it's like that school.
01:08:10 Yeah.
01:08:11 About that in school.
01:08:12 That's not.
01:08:13 Yeah.
01:08:14 But I've been into World War Two.
01:08:15 I've read you ever because like everybody's in the way we talked about this on the Life
01:08:18 Life Show with Rosillo that like once men hit a certain age, just whether you think
01:08:24 you're going to or not, World War Two history comes for you.
01:08:26 Yeah.
01:08:27 You just like wake up one day and you're reading books and all that sort of thing.
01:08:29 Do you ever like get out of that phase?
01:08:31 Yeah.
01:08:32 Yeah.
01:08:33 A little bit like there are times where you're like not.
01:08:34 We also talked about this on that same episode.
01:08:36 I've started to learn more about World War One just so I can learn more about World War
01:08:41 Two.
01:08:42 Yeah.
01:08:43 So I'm like I'm expanding my boundaries that way a little bit just in terms of like interest
01:08:48 that I have outside of like work.
01:08:51 Pretty busy right now.
01:08:52 I haven't really picked up.
01:08:53 I've just been playing a little bit of golf.
01:08:55 Golf.
01:08:56 Yeah.
01:08:57 I've gotten really into flight simulators.
01:08:58 That's a whole nother.
01:08:59 It turns out you don't have a lot of time to sit in a room for three hours and fly combat
01:09:03 aircraft when you have a dog that's just biting every cord and just whining at you the whole
01:09:08 time.
01:09:09 So I've curtailed some of my flight simulation activities.
01:09:12 But golf is golf is you got the golf bug, which is also something that happens to men
01:09:17 of a certain age.
01:09:18 Yeah.
01:09:19 It comes for you whether you whether you want it to or not.
01:09:21 You just wake up one day and you're like, I need to shoot under 90.
01:09:25 Yeah.
01:09:26 I need to do it consistently.
01:09:27 It's just it sucks to play.
01:09:29 We played on a course I was telling you about this earlier, of course, where it's got the
01:09:33 biggest rough that you've ever seen right off the fairway.
01:09:35 Yeah.
01:09:36 That will suck the life out of you.
01:09:37 Yeah.
01:09:38 I got done playing and I was like, I I need to play golf for five more years before I
01:09:42 come back.
01:09:43 How would you describe I'm going golfing with you tomorrow, so I'll get to see it firsthand.
01:09:47 But how would you describe a golf round with you?
01:09:49 Like if someone if someone was you know, if you guys ever did like a a W.L. prize giveaway
01:09:56 and it's like come play around with Hank and PFT and Big Cat, I would.
01:10:01 What are they?
01:10:02 What are they in store?
01:10:03 And they're riding in your cart.
01:10:04 What do they get?
01:10:05 A experience?
01:10:06 We're going to start start drinking on the second hole.
01:10:09 Maybe the first maybe have a little cocktail.
01:10:11 Depends on like the first hole depends on what like if you're if you get a par, maybe
01:10:15 you're a little like I that's I am like if I want to drink as soon as possible, but also
01:10:19 if I feel like I'm locked in, I'm like, let's not let's not touch anything yet.
01:10:22 Yeah, don't don't don't move.
01:10:23 For me, the goal is to get to that magic ratio where you're at like a point oh five to point
01:10:28 oh seven.
01:10:29 And that's when you're good at sports.
01:10:31 That's when the human body peaks.
01:10:33 Instead of steroids, they should just pass out like tiny amounts of Jack Daniels in the
01:10:37 clubhouse because I think there haven't there been studies on or am I getting too much my
01:10:41 info from Billy football where you get to like point oh five and you're not.
01:10:45 I think that was I think there was a real study done about bowling where that was.
01:10:49 Yeah, that sounds right.
01:10:50 That sounds right.
01:10:51 Like literally like being a little buzzed makes you everybody a better bowler, not just
01:10:56 the common man, but like professionals were better at bowling.
01:10:58 Yeah, we've all seen maybe that's we've all played beer pong.
01:11:01 You suck when you start.
01:11:02 Yeah, you get good after like three games.
01:11:04 Right.
01:11:05 That's when the golden hour.
01:11:06 So yeah, I think I'd be pretty fun to go off with my I've started a pivot where I don't
01:11:10 think I'll ever be a great golfer, but I want to have the best swing.
01:11:14 Yeah, I just want to have a good swing.
01:11:16 You just want to be like, damn, that's a great swing.
01:11:18 PFT's got.
01:11:19 But then I go out there, I shoot like one oh five.
01:11:21 I don't care.
01:11:22 Yeah, it's swing or someone's like if I if you let me get my hands on you, I could turn
01:11:25 you into something good.
01:11:26 You're like, that's cool, man.
01:11:27 You're never going to.
01:11:28 Yeah, I'm not.
01:11:29 I'm not like going to sign up for your lessons, but I appreciate I want people to see something
01:11:32 in me, see something to do.
01:11:33 Yeah.
01:11:34 Like I can work with this man.
01:11:35 Do you are you Mulligan guy?
01:11:37 Are you a play it down guy?
01:11:39 Do you foot wedge it?
01:11:40 Yeah.
01:11:41 So when I'm you.
01:11:42 Yeah.
01:11:43 I mean, once in a while I'll play around where I really try to see what I actually shoot.
01:11:47 Yeah.
01:11:48 Just because I want to know if I'm getting better or not, which maybe I should start
01:11:51 taking lessons.
01:11:52 I've just been watching YouTube and then I fall asleep thinking about what I saw on YouTube
01:11:56 and I wake up.
01:11:57 I'm like, I'm cured.
01:11:58 I don't slice anymore because I saw this guy made a lot of good points.
01:12:02 Yeah.
01:12:03 Just fuck around.
01:12:04 Cheat.
01:12:05 Yeah.
01:12:06 Cheap.
01:12:07 But be open about cheating.
01:12:08 That's the thing.
01:12:09 Nothing worse than playing any sport with somebody that's cheating and trying to get
01:12:11 away with it.
01:12:12 Yeah.
01:12:13 If you try to get away with cheating when you're golfing with your friends, prison.
01:12:16 Yeah.
01:12:17 There should be a jail.
01:12:18 If you hit, if you like hit a hole in one and then tell everybody that you hit a hole
01:12:21 in one and it's like, we didn't really see it go in the hole, but you're like telling
01:12:24 everybody it was a hole in one.
01:12:25 It's on video, but you can't even see the video.
01:12:27 Yeah.
01:12:28 That feels a little sus.
01:12:29 It's a little dicey.
01:12:30 If you try to get away with cheating while playing with your friends, that's a, that's
01:12:34 a special type of sad that it's kind of like cheating on the dozen.
01:12:38 Yeah.
01:12:39 Yeah.
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01:13:59 A couple other things I was going to ask you.
01:14:01 Chicago, you, you, you love living here so far.
01:14:03 Yeah.
01:14:04 Your thoughts on, uh, uh, your homeowner.
01:14:06 Now is this, are you a first time homeowner?
01:14:08 Second time.
01:14:09 Yeah, second time homeowner.
01:14:10 Um, how's that going?
01:14:11 Are you, are you a handyman?
01:14:13 Just too many apps.
01:14:14 Yeah.
01:14:15 There's too many apps these days, Mark.
01:14:16 Too many apps.
01:14:17 Moving to Chicago, I've probably downloaded 15 new apps on my phone.
01:14:21 Yeah.
01:14:22 There's an app.
01:14:23 Park Chicago.
01:14:24 Park Chicago.
01:14:25 You've got an app for your car, sometimes two apps for your car.
01:14:28 You've got an app, uh, to use the security system on your house.
01:14:31 Yeah.
01:14:32 You move into a new house, they've got smart home features.
01:14:35 You have to download another app to make your house warmer or colder.
01:14:39 You've just got, we're getting app to death these days.
01:14:41 You know what?
01:14:42 Somebody needs to send a new app with every, every single utility service I sign up with.
01:14:47 Download our app.
01:14:48 Download.
01:14:49 They make it intentionally hard to pay on your phone for anything unless you've got
01:14:52 the app.
01:14:53 I've, I seriously have spent the vast majority of my month and a half here downloading various
01:14:57 apps, forgetting passwords to set apps, having, having reminder emails sent to myself where
01:15:03 I can refresh my password after I've logged in and used their password one time.
01:15:08 It sucks.
01:15:09 We're getting app to death as a society and somebody needs to stop it.
01:15:12 I'm so glad you brought this up.
01:15:13 I had a meltdown yesterday.
01:15:15 Um, when I, it dawned on me that you, there are, there are four places probably, maybe
01:15:20 they're zero at this point in this country where you can take cash or card, but cash
01:15:27 to a, a, a business, a place of business say, I will give you this cash.
01:15:32 You give me a product or service and now we're done and I'm getting the fuck out of here.
01:15:36 That does not happen anymore.
01:15:37 It's, it's, it flips the square around.
01:15:38 It's like, how much do you want to tip us?
01:15:40 It's what's your, you're trying to buy like just the most, a light bulb and they're like,
01:15:45 what's your phone number?
01:15:46 And I'm like, why the fuck do you need my phone number?
01:15:48 Just take my money and I'll take the light bulb and we'll get out of here.
01:15:51 Um, download our app.
01:15:53 Be sure to do.
01:15:54 And it drives me crazy.
01:15:55 The one thing that I'm losing my mind too about Chicago, uh, this was not, this was
01:15:59 not as prevalent in the Los Angeles and I'm going crazy in the one week I've been here.
01:16:02 QR code menus.
01:16:03 I want to go fucking, I want to like, I won't do it.
01:16:07 I just like simple.
01:16:08 And then the people that are with me always give in and then they doubt, they, they take
01:16:11 the picture of the QR code and then they show me their phone and they're like, what do you,
01:16:14 and I'm like, don't do this.
01:16:16 Ask him for real menus.
01:16:17 I go crazy.
01:16:18 I agree with that because you sit down at a dinner table and you think to yourself,
01:16:22 maybe you lie to yourself for like five minutes.
01:16:24 This is going to be a great meal where we're not going to look at our phones.
01:16:27 Exactly.
01:16:28 We're going to have a good time at this restaurant.
01:16:29 Like it was present.
01:16:30 We're going to be present.
01:16:31 We're going to be stuck in the present right now.
01:16:33 And then they give you the QR code menu and you take your phone out.
01:16:37 First thing you take a picture and then you look, Oh, I have two missed notifications
01:16:41 on here.
01:16:42 Right?
01:16:43 Something might as well check and see what those are.
01:16:44 That leads you into another text.
01:16:46 It spirals.
01:16:47 Everybody's ordered and we're all now looking at our phones still.
01:16:49 Then you've committed yourself to just having a phone.
01:16:51 Not to mention, I just want like the big ass menu that I can scan this section and then
01:16:54 pop down to this section and then look back at the app.
01:16:56 So if I paired the appetizer with the, this main dish, now do we do like a, Hmm, what
01:17:01 would that, how would that set up dessert?
01:17:02 And I'm kind of, I like to like look at it all at once.
01:17:04 Not like scroll through, scroll down to the desserts.
01:17:07 Now I'm back up to that, you know, I go, I accept cookies on, on the website.
01:17:12 It's like, yeah, yeah.
01:17:13 Okay.
01:17:14 Now I've got to click two more buttons on here.
01:17:15 Dude, I should actually be a thing for desserts on a real menu.
01:17:18 Do you accept cookies?
01:17:19 Yeah, we accept, we accept cookies.
01:17:20 I've been going crazy in Chicago about these QR codes.
01:17:23 It's everywhere.
01:17:24 I've, I've, I've been asked to take pictures of more QR codes than I have in the last,
01:17:27 in the rest of my life combined.
01:17:28 And this last week, I don't know, it was New York this way too.
01:17:32 Because I, this was not like, there were one or two restaurants, not as much.
01:17:35 There were one or two restaurants in LA.
01:17:36 I would go in there and just be like, my service is bad.
01:17:38 And they'd be like, all right, here's a real menu.
01:17:39 And we'd be good.
01:17:40 And here, you get a little bit of sauce on the menu.
01:17:42 You're like, that looks like the Buffalo sauce.
01:17:43 That looks good.
01:17:44 That's a good color of orange.
01:17:45 I feel like every single place I've been out to eat here has had, has had that.
01:17:50 And then they're also doing the, the like 3% fee, like a, for, for your convenience,
01:17:54 a 3% surcharge has been added.
01:17:56 And I'm, I don't know, not to be like a hacky standup comedian right now on the podcast,
01:17:59 but that's like, I'm going fuck.
01:18:00 I'm like legitimately losing my mind.
01:18:03 I'm Joe exotic.
01:18:04 Every time I go out where I like, I will never financially recover from this.
01:18:07 Cause like I'm staring at my receipt and it's like a 7% health insurance add on for the
01:18:12 employees and a 3.25% credit card.
01:18:16 And I'm like, what the fuck are we doing?
01:18:17 Like just charge me more for, you know, just charge me more for the item I bought.
01:18:22 Like what, like, I don't know.
01:18:23 The 5%, sometimes there'll be like 5% cost of living increase for service staff, which
01:18:29 you can decline if you would like to.
01:18:32 And who on earth, I want to actually hear stories about the people that have declined
01:18:35 my parents.
01:18:36 Yeah.
01:18:37 True life boomers.
01:18:38 I have declined the cost of living adjustment.
01:18:40 Get my dad on the phone.
01:18:41 Cause he had all the Midwest boomers that are just like, no, it is bullshit that that's
01:18:45 passed on like directly to us.
01:18:47 Yeah.
01:18:48 Just be, be good sport about it and just put it in the prices of your food.
01:18:51 That's all I'm saying.
01:18:52 Like just make the price, like make the price for my burger more and I'll pay it.
01:18:55 I don't care.
01:18:56 And then you're like, yeah, one of our employees, kids is struggling with leukemia and we're
01:19:01 going to add a 5% fee to help pay for their health insurance.
01:19:04 You can of course remove that if you'd like.
01:19:06 And I'm just like, you know what?
01:19:08 Fuck it.
01:19:09 Remove it.
01:19:10 I want to, I want to just as an experiment here.
01:19:13 Now I got all hot and bothered about apps.
01:19:15 I just want to see what the most recent apps that I've had to download had to download
01:19:19 the FedEx app the other day to find out when they were going to come back with my package.
01:19:24 Also had to download the UPS app.
01:19:26 I had to download the McDonald's app.
01:19:28 Yeah, you have to, of course, which somehow has like a 4.99 rating despite it's got like
01:19:34 millions of dollars.
01:19:35 It must be a great app, but I had to download in the airport, had download an app for my
01:19:38 gym, had download an app for my security system, had to download two separate apps for an audio
01:19:44 system that was in my house that I still don't know how to use.
01:19:47 I don't even know what this one is.
01:19:49 What is, Oh, uh, an app to pay my mortgage on, which they didn't have.
01:19:54 I had to download the Flickr app to try to get pictures uploaded at like a CVS so I could
01:20:00 print them out.
01:20:01 Their own particular app had download the park Chicago app, had to download a wifi app,
01:20:06 had to download a doorbell app, had to download a gym app for a gym.
01:20:11 I want to go to one time, had to download the Xfinity app, had to download an app for
01:20:19 identifying coins because I found a bunch of my parents old coins.
01:20:23 Yeah, that was actually a very useful app.
01:20:24 I could just like take a picture.
01:20:25 That one, that one was good.
01:20:26 I take back coin snap.
01:20:27 Good app.
01:20:28 Um, had to download the NBA app.
01:20:30 I think I was trying to watch the draft when I was on the guy.
01:20:32 I should have already had that one.
01:20:34 That one's on me.
01:20:35 Had to download two separate apps for various transportation methods like scooters and bikes
01:20:40 to get around Chicago, two separate apps for those.
01:20:43 Uh, and the list goes on, the list goes on.
01:20:46 It's crazy.
01:20:47 And so that's just in the last like six, six weeks or so.
01:20:51 Um, there's too many apps.
01:20:52 Do you feel like you're getting old?
01:20:54 Do you feel like, no, I think that what we've just been talking about here is a healthy
01:20:58 conversation and all the kids are having.
01:20:59 Yeah.
01:21:00 There's too many apps.
01:21:01 We hate QR codes.
01:21:02 Yeah.
01:21:03 Uh, bring back running backs and fullbacks.
01:21:04 These are, these are the topics of conversations in high school cafeterias across America.
01:21:09 We still, we still, we're still in touch, man.
01:21:11 We still got it.
01:21:12 Um, well maybe this is the last thing I was going to ask you.
01:21:15 Uh, cause I'm, I'm fascinated.
01:21:17 You were the first, uh, Barstow employee.
01:21:19 I knew, um, you, you, my introduction to Barstow.
01:21:22 I would not be here if it was not for you.
01:21:25 Um, when you sign on a Barstow, I sort of knew what Barstow was, but you kind of legitimized
01:21:31 you, you, you, you made it from like a thing.
01:21:34 I just kind of put over there where like every so often I'd see like probably KFC or Dan
01:21:39 or Dave, um, tweet something that would get retweeted into my timeline.
01:21:43 I'm like, who are these guys?
01:21:44 I don't really, I don't really get it when you sign on a Barstow cause I had followed
01:21:47 you when, uh, I'm a PFT hipster.
01:21:50 Like I was following you and you had like 8,000 Twitter followers.
01:21:53 Um, and you sign on a Barstow and, and I, I then started paying more attention to Barstow
01:21:59 and obviously you guys start part of my take and your whole, uh, deal has blown up.
01:22:04 Um, as you're such a PFT hipster name three of my, uh, best white history month blogs.
01:22:10 I couldn't do that anymore.
01:22:13 Uh, I remember the PFT days.
01:22:16 We have Barstow when you did like the Cleveland RNC.
01:22:19 Oh, that was right before I think.
01:22:21 Yeah.
01:22:22 See, that's, that's kinda, that's PFT hipster though.
01:22:24 That is old school.
01:22:25 I remember when you went to Cleveland.
01:22:26 I know what you're saying though.
01:22:27 Like I, I definitely don't want to say I legitimize Barstow cause there were a lot of people that
01:22:32 were, you did, you did, whether you did for everybody else or not.
01:22:35 I will say it for you.
01:22:36 You did for me.
01:22:37 Yeah.
01:22:38 And I would not be here if it was not for you in the sense that like I never would have
01:22:40 like looked at Barstow as like a viable career path or anything else.
01:22:45 And granted it took me eight years to actually sign on to work here.
01:22:47 But like the curiosity was there.
01:22:49 Like the first time I got on, like everybody asked me, um, about part of my take.
01:22:53 Like that's the number one thing I get asked about is that everybody's like, love you on
01:22:56 part of my take.
01:22:57 And I'm like, great news guys.
01:22:58 I do, I do a show you can listen to if you're, you know, but I, you know, I, I get it.
01:23:02 Everybody fucking talks to me about part of my take and I get asked all the time, like
01:23:05 how'd you, how'd you get on there so early?
01:23:08 And I've told the story a bunch, but you reached out to me cause it was March and, and you
01:23:12 guys were like starting this new podcast and, and you had asked for me to come on this new
01:23:16 show and the whole reason I went on was because I had followed you.
01:23:20 I didn't really know who Dan was.
01:23:22 Um, and I, I just wanted to like, I never, you and I had like DMD each other or something
01:23:27 on Twitter, but like I had never seen your face.
01:23:29 I had never like heard your voice.
01:23:30 And I was like, I'm going to, I want to go on the show just to see who this guy is.
01:23:34 Cause I followed him on Twitter for so long.
01:23:36 Um, and then it was great.
01:23:37 I think you guys hit the reggae Tron like 7,000 times.
01:23:40 It was a really, really conducive sound effect.
01:23:45 But then I walked away from there and I remember thinking like that, that big cat was his name,
01:23:49 big cat.
01:23:50 Like that guy seemed kind of cool and like I would follow him and then like I just kind
01:23:52 of came from there.
01:23:53 So like legitimately bars, you, you did legitimize barstool for me.
01:23:56 I do think to a certain part of the internet, I was a gateway drug for barstool for sure
01:24:00 because they were already big on their own.
01:24:03 They had a massive following, but unless you grew up in one of a handful of cities or you
01:24:08 had a friend that knew about them growing up, you weren't, a lot of people didn't know
01:24:11 about them, but the fans that they had were obviously rabid and they had a ton of fans
01:24:16 too, which is, it's crazy how like basically five cities, it was so small back then and
01:24:22 they had a massive fan base.
01:24:24 But there were a lot of people that I guess you could say maybe more mainstream sports
01:24:29 media didn't have a concept of barstool or didn't know how big barstool was.
01:24:34 And a lot of people that followed me at the time, I think Gaz did a comparison.
01:24:38 This is such a Gaz thing.
01:24:40 When he hired me, he did an analysis of my Twitter followers and then big cats, Twitter
01:24:45 followers and there was some overlap, but compared to everyone else that worked at the
01:24:50 company, it was, it was like night and day because a lot of people that follow me, they
01:24:55 didn't know about barstool.
01:24:57 And so when I joined, I think that there's probably a lot of people that are like you
01:25:01 that had, for whatever reason, I put myself in that same bucket by the way.
01:25:04 I didn't start following barstool at all until probably 2014, probably around 2014 is when
01:25:11 I first got exposed to it.
01:25:12 And it's not that I had anything against it.
01:25:14 It was just that I didn't know about it.
01:25:16 Yeah.
01:25:17 I mean, literally it was, it was like very, it was a very regionalized thing where it's
01:25:20 like, why would I follow barstool?
01:25:21 I'm not a Boston sports fan.
01:25:22 You know, that's just kind of what, for whatever reason, it just wasn't, it wasn't something
01:25:27 that my friends had ever introduced to me and I never happened to see growing up.
01:25:31 But then I started following some of the guys there and then, um, then I was like, these
01:25:35 guys are very funny and very creative.
01:25:36 But I think there's probably, probably a lot of people out there that when I did join the
01:25:40 company, they said, okay, I'll look more into this because I want to see what this guy's
01:25:45 doing.
01:25:46 Now that I'm, I'm still less than six months in a, to sign in on a barstool, I guess I'm
01:25:50 just asking you, please reassure me that like I, I, it'll be okay.
01:25:53 It'll be okay.
01:25:54 It'll be okay.
01:25:55 No, it is okay.
01:25:56 It's been okay the whole time.
01:25:57 And I, I'm, I'm so far, especially being here just as last week.
01:25:59 It's like, no, I kind of hate you though.
01:26:00 You know why?
01:26:01 I hate, I kind of hate you and I kind of hate, um, it says more about me than about you.
01:26:06 Trust me.
01:26:07 Um, people that, that sign contracts with barstool now and they join and everyone like
01:26:12 a hundred percent of people out there are like, oh man, that's awesome.
01:26:15 I'm so happy for you.
01:26:16 There's no risk.
01:26:17 You're going to kill it, Mark.
01:26:18 You're going to, oh, this is such an awesome move.
01:26:20 I love those guys.
01:26:21 You can have such a fun time working there.
01:26:23 When I joined, it was probably like 80% of people.
01:26:26 Oh yeah.
01:26:27 I remember that.
01:26:28 We're like, fuck PFT.
01:26:29 PFT is a piece of shit.
01:26:30 Yeah.
01:26:31 I hope PFT dies.
01:26:32 Yeah.
01:26:33 Like it, it got bad.
01:26:34 I got, it was probably 75, 80% deadspin dorks like tweeting out your real name as a gotcha,
01:26:41 you know, in retrospect, like they were pieces of shit.
01:26:46 Yeah.
01:26:47 I, I didn't have a job.
01:26:48 I needed a job.
01:26:49 Barstool believed in me.
01:26:50 Big cap believed in me.
01:26:52 Everybody else on the internet said, no, we're not good.
01:26:54 You're funny, but we're not going to hire you.
01:26:56 Yeah, exactly.
01:26:57 So yeah, you're like, you're like, all right, fine.
01:26:59 I won't go to Barstool.
01:27:00 You want to pay me how much they're going to pay me?
01:27:01 And they're like, no, we can't do that.
01:27:02 We have no money.
01:27:03 And you're like, yeah, so shut the fuck up.
01:27:04 And so the same, the very same people that were like, no, we're not going to hire this
01:27:07 guy.
01:27:08 We're like, PFT is a piece of shit for selling out.
01:27:10 Yeah.
01:27:11 Well, fuck you suck my dick.
01:27:12 Sell out on this dick.
01:27:13 If it makes you feel better.
01:27:15 I did get a little pushback.
01:27:16 Although I think mine was more, um, like cause of the Tate situation, like our show breaking
01:27:22 up.
01:27:23 I think like that, you know, I think I was a bad guy and I, I stabbed Tate in the back
01:27:27 and threw his carcass into a ditch and that's how people saw it.
01:27:29 And then it'd be one thing if I did that, but then for me to do that and, and I made
01:27:34 the joke with, with Brandon on the show last week where people would say, I can't believe
01:27:38 you're going to work for that guy.
01:27:39 And I was like, which one?
01:27:40 I was like, Brandon, be more specific.
01:27:41 I was like, I don't, I don't know who you're, uh, you're gonna have to be more specific
01:27:48 as to which, which you're going to go work with TJ.
01:27:51 Yeah.
01:27:52 TJ.
01:27:53 So the thing I wanted to ask you and we can get the hell out of here, but, uh, just in
01:27:58 how your career has progressed and I've kind of watched every step of the way.
01:28:02 I'm not every step, but like since you, you know, I am a PFT hipster, proud of it.
01:28:06 Um, are you good at being famous?
01:28:08 Do you think, do you think as you evaluate like where you're at in your life?
01:28:11 And I imagine there was a point where you started in this career, maybe when you were
01:28:15 younger, you daydreamed about a world where you take your, your brand new puppy outside
01:28:18 and people are rolling down their windows as they drive by and yelling at you.
01:28:23 Um, do you think the way you handle your fame, your notoriety and all of that is how you
01:28:29 pictured yourself handling?
01:28:31 Are you proud of yourself?
01:28:32 Like looking, looking at where you're at?
01:28:33 Are you like proud of who I am?
01:28:35 Am I proud of my family?
01:28:36 Do you think you're good at being famous?
01:28:37 Cause I think some people are like, have I handled success?
01:28:39 Yeah.
01:28:40 Do you think you've handled success?
01:28:41 Well, do you think like, cause I, I mean, if you want me to answer for you first, I
01:28:44 think the answer is yes.
01:28:45 I think like watching you interact with people on the street, cause it is kind of like, again,
01:28:50 like being a guy that like follows you on Twitter when you had like 7,000 followers
01:28:53 and now to like go places with you and see the way you just get swarmed and everything.
01:28:57 Uh, I'm fascinated by like how you handle it because you are like kind of a regular
01:29:01 dude.
01:29:02 But I, I'm just curious from your perspective, as you look back on like the last seven, eight
01:29:06 years of your life, do you think that like where you've arrived, you're like, I'm, I'm
01:29:10 handling this well.
01:29:11 Are you like, this is sort of like, this has become more than I anticipated it being.
01:29:15 I'd say, I'd say besides like the coke habit and domestic violence charges and the stock
01:29:21 fraud.
01:29:22 Yeah, I've done pretty good.
01:29:23 No, it's, it's a tough question to answer.
01:29:25 Do you enjoy it?
01:29:26 Do you think, I think that I have, but it's, I don't think I'm good at being famous.
01:29:31 I think, but I think I'm handling it well.
01:29:33 You know, like, like I feel like a lot of people when they get famous, you're supposed
01:29:37 to do X, you, you know what you want to do now that I'm famous, I can do this.
01:29:41 I have to like, I have to remind myself, like I'm never going to be the call ahead.
01:29:46 Yeah, yeah.
01:29:47 That's what I mean.
01:29:48 Like, Hey, what's up?
01:29:49 This is PFT.
01:29:50 I got your number from so-and-so thinking about swinging by later.
01:29:52 Is there a table that's open?
01:29:54 How do you, how do you, how do you balance being humble, but then also using the, the,
01:29:59 you know, you kind of have been handed a gift, which is that you can use this like power
01:30:02 almost to, to get into rooms you might not be able to get into otherwise.
01:30:07 I'm not saying that.
01:30:08 So how do you, how do you straddle the line?
01:30:09 I guess I'm not saying that if I get introduced to somebody and it's like, Oh, this is this
01:30:12 person.
01:30:13 He worked at so-and-so and the person's like, yeah, if you ever need anything, give me a
01:30:16 shout.
01:30:17 I'm not saying I won't do that from time to time.
01:30:19 But it's it's, it's still weird to me.
01:30:22 I love the fact that people come up and say hi.
01:30:26 Sometimes it's awkward because, and I've actually found out that it's, it's because they sometimes
01:30:31 don't know, you know, they get caught up in the moment.
01:30:34 They don't know what to say.
01:30:35 And so I've figured out ways to try to like disarm them and get them comfortable.
01:30:39 So that, that used to make me uncomfortable.
01:30:42 If somebody were to come up and say, Hey, can I get a picture?
01:30:44 I'm a big fan of the show.
01:30:45 And they're like visibly shaking and it's, you feel their hand twitching on as they put
01:30:50 their arm around you.
01:30:51 Yeah.
01:30:52 Which is, it's, it's weird because like I just do a fucking podcast.
01:30:54 Why at first I was like, why, why is this guy so nervous to meet me?
01:30:58 It's, this is a strange situation and that would make me uncomfortable.
01:31:01 But as I dealt with it more and more, I just learned to, it's my job to try to help that
01:31:06 person be cool and like show who they are.
01:31:09 So that way they don't go home and they're like, man, I really said some stupid shit
01:31:12 to PFT.
01:31:13 So I'll just, if I can tell the nervous, I'll just be like, Oh, what's your name?
01:31:17 Where are you from?
01:31:18 I'll get them talking about themself a little bit.
01:31:20 And then we can have a moment where we're actually talking to each other as human beings
01:31:23 and maybe it becomes less of a, it becomes cool.
01:31:26 It's like, this is a good situation.
01:31:27 So I just always remind myself that it's, it's, it's never a problem.
01:31:31 It's a good thing when people, it dawned on one time, I do want to make a PSA though.
01:31:35 Go ahead.
01:31:36 And it's also kind of a humble brag.
01:31:37 If you see me in the gym, all right, if you see me in the gym, I love you guys.
01:31:45 Please don't come up as I'm working out and be like, let me get, I don't want to interrupt
01:31:49 your workout, but can I get a picture of you while you're working out?
01:31:52 It happened to me for the first time a couple of weeks ago.
01:31:54 Because what happens after that point is everybody else in the gym sees this happen and then
01:32:01 they think to themselves, who's that guy that they just took a picture with.
01:32:05 And then that deepest fear that we all have when you're walking around and you think in
01:32:09 the back of your head, like everyone's staring at me, they're all judging me.
01:32:12 That actually becomes reality for me where now I'm walking around and everyone is looking
01:32:16 at trying to figure out who this asshole is that just had his picture taken.
01:32:21 Like he's got long hair, he doesn't look like he's in great shape.
01:32:24 So he's probably not an athlete.
01:32:26 What could he do?
01:32:27 Maybe, maybe a bassist for Kid Rock.
01:32:31 Maybe he's a DJ somewhere.
01:32:33 And then, and then when you see that person later on in the locker room, it's like, I
01:32:36 don't want to, no, I'm not going to get naked because it's you.
01:32:40 That happened to me.
01:32:41 I don't want to do the gym.
01:32:42 The gym thing happened to me for the first time like a month ago.
01:32:44 And I, I, it was, I hadn't even started lifting it.
01:32:47 I was like stretching, like warming up.
01:32:49 And then I had the exact same thought of like, shit, now I got to put like 10 more pounds
01:32:52 on the bench press bar than I was going to.
01:32:55 And now I got to, you know, that's the only good part about it is you do every rep you
01:32:59 lift like someone's watching you.
01:33:01 But that thing is so real that, uh, uh, like the first guy takes the picture and then now
01:33:06 in the back of your head, you're like, I'm an asshole because now other people are looking
01:33:10 at me like, who the fuck is this guy?
01:33:12 And now you're in the position of like having to almost defend yourself.
01:33:14 You're like, I'm not a celebrity.
01:33:15 I'm not, it's like not a big deal.
01:33:16 Like just move on with your day.
01:33:18 The easiest way to get me to turtle is if, if I go somewhere with like one of my aunts,
01:33:23 you know, and, and we're going out to dinner and she just like tells the waiter, he's like,
01:33:27 you know, he, he's like, you know, you know, my, my nephew there is famous.
01:33:30 And then I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
01:33:32 And I just like, you know, and then the, then the waiter will be like, so who are you?
01:33:35 And then I'm like, it doesn't matter.
01:33:36 Can we please stop, can we please not do this?
01:33:38 It's not a bad podcast, which makes you sound less famous.
01:33:41 I am one, one millionth as, as popular as you are obviously.
01:33:45 But I do, you know, people want pictures every so often, all that my, my number one, like
01:33:49 fuck, I don't know if I'm cut out for this life moment.
01:33:52 I'll never forget it.
01:33:53 I'm in Hilliard, Ohio at a Chipotle.
01:33:54 It was back when I was fat and I eat Chipotle all the time and I'm shoveling this.
01:33:58 Oh, that's another app I downloaded.
01:34:01 I'm shoveling this burrito into my face as I'm looking at my phone by myself.
01:34:05 I'm just sitting by myself at a Chipotle and I'm scrolling through Twitter and there's
01:34:09 a picture of me on my feed eating a burrito at the Chipotle.
01:34:14 It looks like your camera's on, on front mode, but it's actually just a guy, a guy tweeted
01:34:18 at me a picture of me eating, like he was in the bushes or something.
01:34:21 And I just looked up at like, like a bean spilling out of my mouth and I'm like, where
01:34:24 the fuck, like what's going on?
01:34:25 And I'm looking around like, what is happening?
01:34:27 And dude, that fucked me up for like a month.
01:34:29 Like I still, I still think about it every so often, but like there was like a month
01:34:31 straight where I was like, I can't go in public.
01:34:33 And like every time I, like, I didn't think that I was like super famous.
01:34:36 It was just more like, I didn't even realize that this was a possibility that like when
01:34:40 I, when I left my house today, it never crossed my mind that there might be a picture of me
01:34:44 on the internet eating a fucking burrito.
01:34:47 And it just kind of like messed me up.
01:34:49 So like, I don't know, it was just a, I was just curious.
01:34:52 I was curious, like how it fucked me up too.
01:34:54 Watch it.
01:34:55 Like looking at a picture of me doing exactly what I'm doing.
01:34:57 Just so disgusting.
01:34:58 It was like one of the most, yeah.
01:34:59 And I was like, I, but it wasn't, it was, it was one, the picture, but it was two, this
01:35:03 guy didn't say a word to me.
01:35:05 He didn't come up and be like Titus, big fan, whatever.
01:35:07 And then snap the picture on his way out.
01:35:09 I was just sitting there scrolling Twitter and I was like, what the fuck is this?
01:35:12 Um, but yeah, it dawned on me, uh, uh, that you and Dan are probably, you know, like Chicago
01:35:17 is you're coming from a place in New York where maybe, you know, you guys get recognized
01:35:20 all the time in New York, but there are, there are, are a list actors that live in New York
01:35:24 and all that sort of thing.
01:35:25 Like, are you, you guys might be top 10 celebrities in Chicago, maybe top five.
01:35:29 I mean, for God's sakes, like who's, I don't know enough about the Chicago.
01:35:32 I don't either.
01:35:33 That's what we've got to like investigate because I don't, I, there are a lot of people
01:35:36 from Chicago.
01:35:37 Bill Murray.
01:35:38 Do they live in Chicago?
01:35:39 Do they actively participate in Chicago?
01:35:42 Are they at the grocery store?
01:35:43 Are they, you know what I mean?
01:35:44 White Sox, Dave White Sox, Dave is up there.
01:35:46 It's a big list.
01:35:47 Uh, I, I don't know.
01:35:49 I always, I want to make it clear that like, I don't, I don't mind it at all when people
01:35:53 do it.
01:35:54 It's, it's a good, if it's a problem, it's a great problem to have.
01:35:57 I like people coming up and saying that something that I've been a part of has impacted them
01:36:02 some way.
01:36:03 That's a good feeling.
01:36:04 So I always remind me that all I'm saying is just in the gym, no pictures, no pictures,
01:36:07 no picture.
01:36:08 That's all come DAP me up in the gym after the gym or on the street after.
01:36:11 Yeah.
01:36:12 We'll do a picture after, but just come up, DAP me up.
01:36:14 I'll say what's up.
01:36:15 We'll talk.
01:36:16 It'll be a good time.
01:36:17 I just don't want, I don't want everybody in that room being like PFT.
01:36:20 He only squats like a hundred, five pounds.
01:36:22 It was embarrassing, but it was a light day, you know, and we were doing more recovery
01:36:26 day.
01:36:27 It was form.
01:36:28 It was a form day.
01:36:29 Um, no, I'm, I'm, I thought to ask you because there's just like so few famous people that
01:36:34 aren't lizard people that like, you know, we're like brought up like in, in, in like
01:36:39 a culture of like, you know, like child actor or like, you know, like there's so few people
01:36:43 like you're just a normal dude that like you found the right combination and hit a big
01:36:49 and now here we are.
01:36:50 And I think it's been cool to watch you be the same dude, but also you can't be the same
01:36:54 dude.
01:36:55 Cause how could you possibly be the same thing?
01:36:56 I don't know.
01:36:57 It's just fascinating.
01:36:58 You change a little bit, but I'll give a lot of credit to the people that I work with too,
01:37:00 because on part of my take, especially it's like the people that I work with.
01:37:04 Um, they're all very normal people that will bust your balls.
01:37:08 If you, if you get Hollywood on anybody that is, that is, that is true.
01:37:12 And we're all kind of the same low key person where we're not out there.
01:37:15 We're not, none of us seek fame, right?
01:37:18 Like I, I'd never, the, the goal of all this was never, I want to be famous.
01:37:22 It was just like, I want to make these guys laugh.
01:37:24 I want to make other people right.
01:37:25 And then everything else has followed after that.
01:37:28 So none of us are really enjoying, I guess what you could say would be like the trappings
01:37:32 of fame.
01:37:33 Yeah.
01:37:34 I mean, I don't think that you'll ever find us like in a, in a newspaper for, or like
01:37:38 on page six, we're not, we're not the kind of guys that are going to call page six because
01:37:42 we went out to a fancy dinner and we want them to report on it.
01:37:45 You know, like we're all, that's a funny prank idea actually.
01:37:48 Now that I think about it, I know I'm going to dinner with all you guys and I just, I
01:37:53 personally call page six and PFT spotted that blue man group.
01:37:57 Um, yeah, no pictures at the gym.
01:38:01 Uh, and, and we're optimistic about the commanders.
01:38:04 Very optimistic.
01:38:05 Those are the takeaways.
01:38:06 Uh, I appreciate you doing this.
01:38:07 Do we never, we've never done a one on one thing before.
01:38:10 This is a, this is fun and um, we should do it again.
01:38:13 I know big cats warned me about going on the show, but he was, I just want to say he was
01:38:16 wrong.
01:38:17 I think you're, you're a good guy and a good host.
01:38:18 It's a good show.
01:38:19 Thanks man.
01:38:20 So big cat can suck.
01:38:21 Oh, we gotta, I gotta teach you how to shoot a basketball by the way.
01:38:22 That's right.
01:38:23 I'm looking forward to that.
01:38:24 We're going to collab.
01:38:25 Let's collab.
01:38:26 Yeah.
01:38:27 Let's collab on that.
01:38:28 I want you to teach me how to, uh, soccer style kick a football.
01:38:29 I used to, I used to be the field goal kicker for the, uh, for my football team up until
01:38:34 high school.
01:38:35 Uh, freshman year I got, I got booted from that role, but I was still the punter.
01:38:39 I had a big leg, but I didn't know what I was doing.
01:38:41 I didn't have any good form.
01:38:42 Um, you look like you'd probably be good, but I was a toe basher.
01:38:45 So that's why I like imagine, imagine, uh, it's seventh grade football.
01:38:50 There's a six, two kid out there just playing quarterback punter and that he's toe bashing
01:38:56 the shit out of, uh, and I would hit knuckle balls.
01:38:59 I create, and that's, that's still how I kick a football is I line up straight and I toe
01:39:02 bash it and I can never, I never played soccer growing up, so I never knew how to like soccer
01:39:06 kick a football.
01:39:07 And like, once you get stuck in your ways, I don't know.
01:39:08 So that's always been a, I've always thought that like I might have a good leg, but I was
01:39:13 always hampered by the toe bashing where I just hit knucklers.
01:39:16 Your coach was just like, you're the most athletic player, so we're going to have you,
01:39:20 you can probably kick.
01:39:21 My entire existence is basically I hit puberty before everyone else.
01:39:23 That's how I got like quote unquote good at basketball.
01:39:25 But then eventually everyone else at puberty and we realized I'm not that good at basketball.
01:39:28 That's how I, you know, like the whole, the whole deal is like I was six, four and eighth
01:39:31 grade.
01:39:32 That's like when people are like, what's the Martinez story?
01:39:34 I say I was six, four and eighth grade.
01:39:36 We need to work on this negative self-talk mark.
01:39:37 All right, we'll work on this.
01:39:39 I was a pretty good basketball player.
01:39:41 Um, I was average podcaster, but very good basketball player.
01:39:45 I'll take that.
01:39:46 I was a good punter, a good high school punter.
01:39:48 Yeah, I'll teach you how to kick.
01:39:49 It's not that hard.
01:39:50 It's not that hard at all.
01:39:52 All right.
01:39:53 If you're a commenter, you can listen to him on the pardon my take podcast.
01:39:55 Uh, it is available wherever I believe wherever you get your podcast, I believe you should
01:39:59 be able to find it.
01:40:00 Just Google the words.
01:40:01 Pardon my tank.
01:40:02 Those are the words.
01:40:03 What about macro dosing as well?
01:40:04 Thank you.
01:40:05 I want to come.
01:40:06 I'm if, if I may not anytime soon, we're going to invite ourself onto another man's
01:40:09 podcast.
01:40:10 We're going to invite ourselves on another man's podcast.
01:40:12 I, I got to find the right material, but like, I'm not going to invite my, no, I'm not going
01:40:16 to invite myself.
01:40:17 What I'm going to do is I'm going to like subliminally, subliminal, uh, just start talking
01:40:22 to you about some shit and just like, kind of like Mark, what topics do you care about?
01:40:27 The two topics I'm obsessed with right now are Alcatraz and the Titanic.
01:40:31 Okay.
01:40:32 Cause that's because this remissible, like when that thing went down, I just had like
01:40:35 this, like we talked about on the show a few times, but then, uh, I, after those, after
01:40:40 we found out an implode in these guys, like all died and everything, I just sat there.
01:40:43 I was like, if you, if you had a billion dollars, why the fuck would you go see the Titanic?
01:40:46 I was like, what was it about this thing that made people so interested?
01:40:49 I started reading up on it and I was like, I think I want to go see the Titanic dude.
01:40:53 There's something about it.
01:40:55 There's something about it.
01:40:56 So I get anything that people get that obsessed with.
01:40:57 I'm kind of interested in learning about it.
01:40:59 There must be something to it.
01:41:00 I've been obsessed with the Titanic the last month or so I've been reading everything about
01:41:03 the Titanic.
01:41:04 Maybe we could do Titanic.
01:41:05 Oh no, we already did a Titanic episode.
01:41:07 It's okay.
01:41:08 You do Alcatraz.
01:41:09 I'm obsessed with Alcatraz as well.
01:41:10 And then like the guys who escaped and then, you know, like the, the, the, the official
01:41:14 narrative is like the, the, the one escape where the three dudes got out and then the
01:41:18 official narrative is we never saw him again.
01:41:20 So obviously they were eaten by sharks because there's a lot of shark infested water.
01:41:23 And I'm like, is it, I'm like, is it obvious?
01:41:25 Nope.
01:41:26 We know that for sure.
01:41:27 Cause what if they just like swam to the shore?
01:41:29 I think a lot of people swim in that location from time to time and emerge from the water.
01:41:34 Not right.
01:41:35 Sharks.
01:41:36 Right.
01:41:37 So I, I, and then I like when I, when I went to Alcatraz, I was just like, this is the
01:41:39 wildest shit ever that we just like had a prison here and we were sending Al Capone
01:41:43 to be a bachelor party.
01:41:44 And I'll say, great idea.
01:41:46 You bring your dancers, you bring your boys, poker set up.
01:41:50 Um, one, one last thing, cause he brought up the submersible, which I've also been kind
01:41:54 of obsessed with recently.
01:41:55 Did you know that they made water that you can breathe?
01:41:58 Like that humans can breathe.
01:41:59 Who did what?
01:42:01 Science made it science, science made it.
01:42:03 They mark, they, they tested on rats and they put a rat in one of those cages, like a drowning
01:42:09 cage into a vat of this stuff.
01:42:12 And it's like super oxygenated water.
01:42:15 And the rat starts to panic cause it thinks it's going to drown.
01:42:18 And then as it inhales the water, it's like, wait, what's going on?
01:42:20 I can breathe.
01:42:22 And then they've tested on humans to humans have done it.
01:42:25 It's not water really.
01:42:26 It's like this weird liquid that you, you can put on like an airtight helmet.
01:42:30 They fill the helmet up and if you can make yourself breathe it in, which is hard to do,
01:42:34 but if you can make yourself breathe it in, um, without panicking, you can breathe normally.
01:42:40 It's nuts.
01:42:41 Why don't we just get rid of all the water in the ocean and replace it with this new
01:42:44 water, just new water.
01:42:45 And then we can just build cities under the, yeah, I like it.
01:42:50 We got a lot of real estate down there.
01:42:51 Let's uh, let's do that.
01:42:52 That's incredible.
01:42:53 Yeah.
01:42:54 Shout out Blake, by the way, who hasn't barked at all.
01:42:56 Good boy.
01:42:57 What a good, what a good pup.
01:42:58 Uh, all right.
01:42:59 PFT commenter.
01:43:00 Appreciate you making time for us.
01:43:02 And uh, yeah, that's the show.
01:43:04 Thank you.
01:43:05 All right.
01:43:06 I lied.
01:43:07 Not the end of the show.
01:43:08 I want to do some quick shout outs before we get the hell out of here.
01:43:11 Uh, I, I had, I had, uh, I think three, I had three shout outs.
01:43:15 Number one, I want to shout out myself, TJ for a, just an incredible masterclass performance
01:43:20 on the dog walk draft.
01:43:22 Uh, I, I went on, I saw a lot of comments mentioning your name about this, about this
01:43:27 draft.
01:43:28 Dude, just like absolute math.
01:43:30 I mean, it was, it's gotta be the best performance on that show of all time.
01:43:33 Like I, I, I, I came out throwing heat.
01:43:36 We were doing it.
01:43:37 I don't want to spoil it for anybody.
01:43:38 I don't want to, but we, we did a fictional athlete draft.
01:43:41 Um, all I'll say is this, it's not really a spoiler, but maybe it is all the other bozos
01:43:46 in the room.
01:43:47 Uh, just read off a Buzzfeed list.
01:43:50 They were all like trying to audition for Buzzfeed, I think, where they were just like,
01:43:53 what is the most basic bitch pick possible?
01:43:56 I went galaxy brain on almost every pick and uh, I ran circles around them.
01:44:00 So shout out me, uh, for, for bringing some creativity to a, uh, an exercise that Brandon
01:44:06 Walker brought absolutely zero creativity to, and that was evident out of the gate.
01:44:10 But I just wanted to say like, I don't, I've gotten some heat for TJ.
01:44:14 Like some people have loved it.
01:44:15 I love, love my picks.
01:44:17 Some called me the worst guest ever.
01:44:18 I just want to officially go on record to say, I apologize for nothing.
01:44:21 And I stand by every pick I made.
01:44:23 And I thought I brought the heat.
01:44:25 I thought that was a great performance.
01:44:26 I did see that it was, it was enough, uh, maybe enough feedback that it brought you
01:44:30 back to Twitter after four months away.
01:44:33 Welcome back.
01:44:35 I was in there mixing it up with everybody.
01:44:37 I'm chirping back at everybody.
01:44:38 Um, yeah, so, uh, I won't spoil it too much.
01:44:41 Go listen to the, uh, the, the dog walk.
01:44:43 It was a lot of fun.
01:44:44 Uh, it was, it was, it was all the guests of the show the last week on this show.
01:44:48 It was, it was all the Chicago guys plus Brandon Walker plus me.
01:44:51 So we all sat down, we drafted our, our, the, the best fictional athletes.
01:44:55 And like I said, I was the only one that like put any sort of thought into it and everybody
01:44:59 else just Googled like what's the top rankings on Buzzfeed.
01:45:03 I'm just going to regurgitate those.
01:45:05 And you know, the internet likes, and then everyone, well, I don't, I won't spoil it.
01:45:09 I won't spoil it.
01:45:10 I just wanted to shout out myself.
01:45:11 Uh, I wanted to shout out Kansas and North Carolina playing a home at home.
01:45:14 Uh, that was announced today that 24 and 25, uh, they're going to play a home at home in
01:45:19 basketball.
01:45:20 And it was one of those deals for me that I was like, instead of being excited about
01:45:23 that, all my initial reaction was like, how was this not a thing already?
01:45:27 You know, like it was, it was like, damn, I never really, I never really thought about
01:45:31 it, but they, they don't play all the time.
01:45:33 They should play every year.
01:45:34 The Roy Williams and Dean Smith connection should make these now that both of those guys
01:45:38 are gone.
01:45:39 Uh, now Dean Smith has passed and Roy Williams is retired.
01:45:41 Um, they should keep the bond between Kansas and North Carolina.
01:45:44 I think they should play every year.
01:45:45 And like the fact that they're doing this, yes, it is awesome.
01:45:48 But I was also just like, yeah, what the hell?
01:45:50 Why was this not always a thing?
01:45:51 This is the, the, there's two pro if there's two blue blood programs that should play each
01:45:55 other every year, I guess, I guess Duke and Carolina should probably be it, but otherwise
01:45:59 it's Carolina and Kansas.
01:46:01 So, uh, I'm fired up about that.
01:46:03 That's awesome.
01:46:04 And then finally, my last shout out, uh, RIP Donnie Baker, uh, shout out to, uh, Donnie
01:46:09 Baker, the, uh, the guy who played Donnie Baker on the Bob and Tom show.
01:46:12 I am an indie kid.
01:46:14 Vibs knows who I'm talking about.
01:46:15 Uh, Vibs, Vibs and I have bonded over the Bob and Tom show and being from Indian, all
01:46:19 that.
01:46:20 But, uh, a lot of listeners of mine are, are, are assume if you're not still Bob and Tom
01:46:24 fans, you were once upon a time, uh, growing up at Bob and Tom, TJ was basically like Howard
01:46:28 Stern for the Midwest, which was like, they were, they were like the funny dudes, but
01:46:33 then also they had Midwest sensibilities.
01:46:35 So like, they didn't talk to porn stars and say bad words and they would play prank calls
01:46:41 and like stuff like that.
01:46:42 And in the Midwest, we were like, these guys are the funniest dudes ever.
01:46:45 And they're still doing the show.
01:46:46 Uh, I went on it a couple of years ago and it was like an absolute highlight for me.
01:46:51 Um, but Donnie Baker was, was one of their, there, there was a dude that played this character,
01:46:56 Donnie Bay.
01:46:57 I don't know how to describe, but, uh, I just want to shout him out.
01:47:00 There's a dude that played a character, Donnie Baker that like was, was very funny.
01:47:04 And when I was growing up and I don't know, I need, I guess he passed away unexpectedly
01:47:08 and I was very sad about that.
01:47:10 So shout out Donnie Baker.
01:47:11 Uh, I don't even remember the guy's name that played him.
01:47:14 He was just Donnie Baker.
01:47:15 I see his face.
01:47:16 I see Donnie Baker.
01:47:17 So, uh, that's it.
01:47:18 Do you have any shout outs to TJ before we go?
01:47:19 No, Cody just sent this at the bracket for Maui just got announced or I guess got announced
01:47:23 today.
01:47:24 Oh really?
01:47:25 Yeah.
01:47:26 So I'm going to go with Kansas, Chaminade, Marquette, UCLA, Tennessee, Syracuse, Purdue,
01:47:29 Gonzaga.
01:47:30 Dude, all time loaded field.
01:47:31 I got to get there.
01:47:32 I got to do it.
01:47:33 I got a, I got a kind of a Maui shirt on today by the way.
01:47:36 Um, John, John Rothstein was calling me a little behind the scenes action.
01:47:41 He was calling me trying to get the scoop.
01:47:42 Did he tweet it?
01:47:43 Was he the one that he gets scoop?
01:47:44 He tweeted it.
01:47:45 He didn't say breaking in the tweets.
01:47:46 I don't know if somebody else had it first.
01:47:48 It just says news, but that's where I saw it.
01:47:51 Dude, John, John called me like in a panic.
01:47:53 Um, today, like, do you have the, do you have the Maui scoop?
01:47:57 And I was like, man, I wish I did.
01:47:59 Like, I don't know.
01:48:00 Like, I don't, he's like, I feel you.
01:48:01 He said, I'm close on this and I need, I need, yeah, I swear to God that happened today.
01:48:08 So I was hoping when he told me that it's been announced, I was hoping it was John.
01:48:11 Cause John, John's out there doing the work, man.
01:48:14 John's out there grinding.
01:48:15 So shout out John.
01:48:16 It looks like he got it.
01:48:17 I maybe, I don't know.
01:48:19 I don't see anybody else that had it first.
01:48:20 I told John what I told him on the phone.
01:48:21 It was like, I, the only scoops I'm interested in are your personal life.
01:48:25 I broke that you're engaged to be married and I broke that your wife is pregnant and
01:48:28 due in September.
01:48:29 Um, so I mean, I guess I'll break when the white, when he had, when the baby comes, when
01:48:35 he officially has the baby tuned into the, uh, be sure to refresh the, uh, Mark Titus
01:48:40 show Twitter or, or stay tuned to this show.
01:48:44 And, uh, and we'll see when, when Rostein has a kid, those are the only excuse I'm interested
01:48:48 in.
01:48:49 All time loud and Maui field.
01:48:51 That's going to be so freaking good.
01:48:52 So good.
01:48:53 Um, I think that's it.
01:48:55 Thanks to PFT.
01:48:56 Thanks everybody.
01:48:57 Listen, I have, I have a, I hope it's a fun show.
01:49:00 Wednesday.
01:49:01 We have a recurring guest coming back on.
01:49:02 I don't want to spoil who it is, but it's an emergency podcast about the state of, I
01:49:07 mean, you'll connect the dots, but there's some, there's some shit going on in Indiana.
01:49:12 TJ, not at any university, but the state of Indiana with a big cat.
01:49:18 Just popped in and said, hello.
01:49:21 Um, there is some shit going on in the state of Indiana that needs to be addressed and
01:49:25 we will address it on the next show.
01:49:26 But, uh, it has reached emergency status and there's only one man I can turn to to talk
01:49:30 about and he has confirmed that he will be on the show on Thursday.
01:49:33 So that's what we're doing.
01:49:35 See you guys.
01:49:36 It's up to display.
01:49:37 Yeah.
01:49:38 Just PFT brought his dog in.
01:49:39 How you doing?
01:49:40 How was the move?
01:49:41 Yeah, absolutely.
01:49:42 Yeah.
01:49:49 It's the, it's your wife turning to you and saying, where do we put, where do we want
01:49:56 to put the spatula?
01:49:57 And you're like, why would I give a single fuck?
01:49:59 But then when they, when she puts it where you wouldn't put it, you're like, why would
01:50:02 we put this?
01:50:03 Why would we put it here?
01:50:04 Oh, this guy's here.
01:50:05 Can we, can we, can we hash this out?
01:50:10 Like what is nothing to hash out?
01:50:11 We're not, we're not.
01:50:15 How old are you?
01:50:16 How old are you?
01:50:17 How old are you?
01:50:18 I'm turning 25 tomorrow.
01:50:19 We're not going to be friends.
01:50:22 And that doesn't mean like, that's not like a mean thing.
01:50:25 Like you have a life to live.
01:50:28 My life is over.
01:50:29 Do we, I guess like it was more of a bear's bills thing.
01:50:33 Preseason.
01:50:34 Big cat, big cat.
01:50:36 You want to go to Rutgers, Wisconsin at camp Randall?
01:50:39 Yeah.
01:50:40 See TJ asked me that.
01:50:41 He's asked me that every time.
01:50:42 I'm like, no, no.
01:50:43 I was, my thought was it was, it would be the only bills game I'll probably see all
01:50:50 year since I'm moving.
01:50:53 You can still go.
01:50:54 You could still go.
01:50:55 You go.
01:50:56 I don't have that kind of money.
01:50:57 Oh, it's preseason dude.
01:50:58 Hold on Cody, that's worse.
01:51:01 If you were, if you're asking Dan, cause you want him to pay for the tickets.
01:51:04 Also it's preseason.
01:51:07 It's like $10.
01:51:10 People give those away.
01:51:12 No, I'm saying it will be the only bills game I'll see because I won't go back home to Buffalo
01:51:17 all year.
01:51:18 Got it.
01:51:19 Okay.
01:51:20 But I guess Dan's point.
01:51:22 And now my point is why you can still go like it just because Dan says no.
01:51:26 Right.
01:51:27 So I'm going to go.
01:51:28 And I just want it.
01:51:29 Like I'm, I'm actually, it's actually a detriment.
01:51:32 Now I've, I've, I've reached a new like phase in my life where I'm just brutally honest
01:51:38 because just easier that way.
01:51:40 TJ can attest to it.
01:51:43 Sometimes it bites me in the ass.
01:51:44 Like the, we did, we did roof ball and the guy like did this whole speech at the end.
01:51:49 He was like, my sister usually sings the national Anthem, but she can't make it for the U S open
01:51:54 and we'd like to extend the invite to you.
01:51:56 And I was like, when is it?
01:51:57 He's like Sunday, September 24th.
01:51:59 I was like, I'm out.
01:52:00 I said that to him like all day.
01:52:01 I was like, I'm out.
01:52:02 And because I just like, it's easier just to be honest with people.
01:52:09 We're never going to be friends.
01:52:11 We could be friendly, but like 25 single, hold on, hold on, hold on.
01:52:17 I got to point out the obvious.
01:52:19 You go on Rosillo show.
01:52:20 Yeah.
01:52:21 You stir up some shit with him and Kyle.
01:52:23 Yeah.
01:52:24 Similar dynamic.
01:52:25 I mean, you know, Cody is not working with you directly, but just similar dynamic.
01:52:29 It's like a guy you're going to work with.
01:52:31 He's going to be in the Chicago office eventually.
01:52:32 Uh, and you're hitting him with the, we'll never be friends thing.
01:52:36 I don't know.
01:52:37 I'm just, I'm just pointing out.
01:52:38 Rosillo should do that with Kyle.
01:52:39 He still is never brutally honest.
01:52:42 And again, it's not me saying we'll never be friends is not like a mean thing.
01:52:47 Cause if I were 25 and single, we would be friends, but you don't want a 38 year old
01:52:53 father of three is a friend.
01:52:54 You don't want, you don't want to be friends.
01:52:56 There's not like we could, we still might do something social.
01:52:59 Like we might be at the same bar at the same time kind of thing, but we're, you don't want
01:53:04 to be texting me being like, what's up this weekend.
01:53:07 I'm like, uh, I'm going to be getting up around five 30.
01:53:10 Cause that's when my son gets up.
01:53:11 Then we got to go.
01:53:12 We're doing soccer practice at 8:00 AM.
01:53:14 You don't want that.
01:53:15 You don't want that.
01:53:16 And even if you are at the same bar at the same time, if you're having a great time,
01:53:18 Cody, that, that almost certainly means the Dan wants to get the hell out of it.
01:53:22 Yes.
01:53:23 It's almost like big cats.
01:53:24 Like I actually, if we're under this hypothetical, here's one way we could be friends.
01:53:29 If we're at the same bar at the same time and, uh, I don't have a seat and you have
01:53:33 a seat.
01:53:34 If you give me your seat, I will be your friend.
01:53:37 That's pretty much it.
01:53:38 Uh, selfishly.
01:53:39 I just, I want to know.
01:53:41 Cause every time you bring up Cody's antics, cause it's been, it's been a hand.
01:53:44 It's been a Cody put me on blast.
01:53:46 Yeah.
01:53:47 But, but what else did you do?
01:53:48 Cause you've talked about them a couple of different times where you're like, Oh, I like
01:53:52 Cody because he's, he is, um, I could already tell he's a ride or die.
01:53:57 He's like a facility junior, which I appreciate.
01:53:59 So I like him.
01:54:01 So he doesn't bother me, but he, when, when Kentucky Derby happened and Cody tweeted,
01:54:09 drop your job, drop your fits.
01:54:11 That's right.
01:54:12 I went back to it 24 hours later and there were zero replies.
01:54:15 That's what it was.
01:54:16 My heart broke a little bit.
01:54:17 So then I got like, you know, when a kid's about to die from like cancer, when he's like
01:54:21 five years old, everyone's like, send him a fucking Christmas card.
01:54:24 And then he gets 10,000 Christmas cards.
01:54:27 I had everyone on the yak.
01:54:29 We had everyone reply, drop your fits like two days after the Kentucky Derby.
01:54:33 So he had like 300 replies.
01:54:36 My only question.
01:54:37 And then I can leave it be and let you guys settle it out.
01:54:39 Are we recording?
01:54:40 I have no idea.
01:54:41 Does this reflect poorly on me?
01:54:45 No.
01:54:46 Do you, do you look at this and say like, what the hell is tight is doing?
01:54:48 Keep your dog on a leash.
01:54:49 No, no, no, no.
01:54:50 Cause I want it very clear.
01:54:51 And I, this might never go out.
01:54:53 This just might be us talking guys like Cody.
01:54:57 We need guys like Cody to make the, to, to the, the young bucks to infuse the young people
01:55:03 out there in the bar stool.
01:55:05 So I'm, I'm a Cody fan.
01:55:08 Does he maybe tweet like he's tweeting to like 500,000 people when it's really like
01:55:12 50.
01:55:13 That's fine.
01:55:14 That's okay.
01:55:15 That's okay.
01:55:16 Because like young, dumb and full of love of the game.
01:55:19 Yeah.
01:55:20 Right.
01:55:21 So his heart's in the right place.
01:55:23 So there's like two types of like, there can be people like Cody who have their heart in
01:55:28 the wrong place who I would not like, but I can tell he's a good genuine guy.
01:55:32 Um, and he'll learn, he'll learn his path.
01:55:35 He's also like, I Cody, I like this.
01:55:37 I know I'm talking like you're not even here right now.
01:55:39 Sorry.
01:55:40 But, um, it's also like people show up to the internet like with their eyes wide open
01:55:46 being like, this is going to be awesome.
01:55:48 People are going to be nice in like five years.
01:55:50 He'd be like, oh yeah, the internet's a fucking mean, terrible place.
01:55:54 Like it's an awful place to be every day.
01:55:57 So he just hasn't had that happen yet.
01:55:59 And once it does, he'll, it will slowly get beaten out of him.
01:56:02 But I want to cherish it right now.
01:56:04 Yeah.
01:56:05 The only worst thing than not having a following on the internet is having a following on the
01:56:07 internet.
01:56:08 Right.
01:56:09 Right.
01:56:10 Cause then people are going to just, then you're going to be like, drop your fits and
01:56:12 people are going to be just ruthlessly mean to you.
01:56:15 And you're going to be like, well, this fucking sucks.
01:56:17 Yeah.
01:56:18 Nice, nice.
01:56:19 I'm over 30 then over nine.
01:56:20 Right.
01:56:21 Right.
01:56:22 So yeah, no, I'm a Cody fan, but yeah, he's a, he's just, he, he has facility was the
01:56:26 same way.
01:56:27 And I love the solely just they, they Viva so hard.
01:56:31 They, they, they, what's the, what's the Tommy Lasorda?
01:56:34 Like he bleeds Dodger blue, whatever, whatever you would believe bleeds.
01:56:38 I don't know what you'd bleed.
01:56:39 He bleeds Viva.
01:56:41 That's what he does.
01:56:42 TJ used to be, there might be a, there might be a new leaf for me to turn tomorrow.
01:56:44 I'm turning 25.
01:56:45 So maybe I'll be, I'll be off.
01:56:46 You could rent a car.
01:56:48 Is that all you're saying?
01:56:49 Your brain will be fully developed at that point.
01:56:51 I'm old man.
01:56:52 Yeah.
01:56:53 You're not.
01:56:54 No.
01:56:55 All right.
01:56:56 Now I don't like you.
01:56:57 Okay.
01:56:58 All right.
01:56:59 To not liking you.
01:57:00 That was a great 10 minutes.
01:57:01 25 is so young.
01:57:02 It's so awesome.
01:57:03 I'm still young at 38.
01:57:04 I just, the kids.
01:57:05 TJ, are we recording all this?
01:57:06 Yeah.
01:57:07 Just throw it on the, just throw it on the end.
01:57:08 Throw it after I say goodbye to everybody.
01:57:09 Yeah.
01:57:10 Post the post show.
01:57:11 Yeah.
01:57:12 Post post show.
01:57:13 Yeah.
01:57:14 I do have to run though.
01:57:15 So, um, do you guys, do you guys want to keep talking?
01:57:16 No, I'm good.
01:57:17 I've had enough Cody today.
01:57:18 All right.
01:57:19 I like you, Cody.
01:57:20 I'll see you.
01:57:21 When are you moving?
01:57:22 When are you moving?
01:57:23 August 22nd.
01:57:24 Okay.
01:57:25 Sure.
01:57:26 You'll probably be at my doorstep being like, where are we going to go fucking hang out?
01:57:27 Cody, you should have hit, you should have big cat with like a, like knowing he was moving
01:57:28 in this week and knowing that he like hired a thousand movers to do everything.
01:57:29 You should have hit him.
01:57:30 I unfortunately did not.
01:57:31 I should have.
01:57:32 I thought about doing this.
01:57:33 You should, you should have done this too.
01:57:34 Cody, you should have just texted him like anything I can do to help with the move.
01:57:35 Hey, you need me to move your mattress for you?
01:57:56 I'm going to do the rich guy move next time where I go on vacation for three weeks and
01:58:01 hire someone to actually like unpack and put it everywhere.
01:58:04 Yeah.
01:58:05 That's what I'm going to do.
01:58:06 Put flowers in my vase for me and put like, like do that white glove type.
01:58:10 I was an F minus today in the, my wife caught me sleeping in a fucking side room and she's
01:58:16 like, what are you doing?
01:58:17 I was like, I'm just tired.
01:58:18 All right.
01:58:19 All right.
01:58:20 See you, Cody.
01:58:21 All right.
01:58:22 See you guys.
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