"Israel Aman Nahi Chahta...", Abdulrahman Matar (Arab Journalist)
"Israel Aman Nahi Chahta...", Abdulrahman Matar (Arab Journalist)
Transcript
00:00 Welcome back after the break.
00:02 Before we go to the show, Hassan was probably asking a question to Abdul Rehman.
00:06 Yes, I wanted to ask that according to Ismail Haniya, this fight will lead to the Jewish
00:12 Settlement.
00:13 He is claiming that he wants to conquer Israel completely.
00:17 But the ground realities that are being shown, like the export of America is coming, this
00:24 fight will be very dangerous.
00:26 If the situation gets worse, you don't think that a lot of precious lives will be lost.
00:33 Palestinians will be martyred and definitely there will be damage on the other side as well.
00:38 But there is no way out of this fight.
00:40 You cannot take advantage of this, that the Palestinians sit down and have a table talk
00:46 and some people sit down and have a little talk.
00:49 Like the peace treaty that was signed in Islam, which was signed by the Prophet (PBUH)
00:53 and some companions were very saddened that Muslims are in a very strong position.
00:58 Despite this, the Prophet (PBUH) signed that treaty.
01:01 So do something like this, make a wise decision so that there is a win-win for Palestine.
01:07 The peace agreement was signed between Israel and Egypt in 1981 and was also signed with
01:16 the Urdu.
01:17 It was also signed with the Palestinians in 1993, which is the name of the Oslo agreement,
01:27 which was the result of which the authority of Palestine was established.
01:32 You should know one thing, Mr. Hassan, that from the last 30 years, from 1993 to today,
01:39 30 years have passed since the Oslo peace agreement.
01:43 And after that, the Y-river agreement and what else, nothing of Israel has been implemented.
01:53 The obligations of Israel, according to the agreement, none of them have been implemented.
02:01 Therefore, what is being said about the peace treaty cannot be done now, it cannot be done practically.
02:09 Because these people are irresponsible and according to their ideology, the Palestinians
02:19 should be killed, the Muslims should be killed.
02:22 And that's why this agreement is working.
02:25 And I also want to tell you about your earlier point.
02:30 As Shahista said at the start of the program about September 11 for Israel, this is 9/11.
02:40 After this, the map of the Middle East will change, it will happen.
02:44 It is very much expected, by the way.
02:46 And why was the American warship moved?
02:49 Who is this message for?
02:51 Everyone should know who this message is for.
02:55 And what is the result of this?
02:56 The map of the Middle East will change.
02:58 Exactly, as you are saying that this message is for the nation.
03:01 Just now, at the beginning of the program, we told our viewers that Hezbollah had declared
03:06 the attack as a message for countries that desire relations with Israel.
03:10 That this is a message for those countries that want to improve their relations with Israel.
03:16 So, Abdul Rehman Sahib, what do you think, can this attack by Hamas, which is accepting Israel,
03:20 become a problem for the countries?
03:22 Of course.
03:23 And they will have to face it.
03:26 Because all Muslims are facing the Ummah, all Arabs are facing the world.
03:30 How is it possible that you can be at peace with someone who is your Muslim brother,
03:38 your Palestinian brother, your neighbor?
03:41 You know, who are the neighbors of Egypt and Jordan?
03:44 We are Palestinians.
03:45 Who are the neighbors of Lebanon and Syria?
03:48 Who are the neighbors?
03:49 We are.
03:50 When these people are normalizing with this, what does it mean?
03:55 They are betraying us.
03:57 They are betraying us.
03:59 This is being exposed in front of everyone.
04:01 Now everyone is watching.
04:04 Because Israel does not want peace.
04:07 It does not want peace.
04:09 They are the conquerors and their desire is to control the entire Middle East.
04:14 So Mr. Hassan, if they have the American force, the practical force,
04:20 if they want to change the Middle East, they can do it.
04:23 It will be done.
04:24 Okay, Mr. Abdur Rahman, tell me one more thing.
04:27 Correct me if I am wrong.
04:29 Al-Fateh is another group of Palestine that is still silent.
04:33 Is it possible in the future that other Palestinian groups
04:37 will also join Hamas and become a part of this war?
04:40 Of course.
04:41 And this is not silence, by the way.
04:44 Sorry to correct you.
04:46 No Palestinian is silent right now.
04:48 But in a place where nothing can happen,
04:55 but they have a chance, and they are doing it.
04:59 They are in the West Bank.
05:01 So far, about 8 people have been martyred.
05:04 8 people have been martyred since years.
05:08 And as much as they have the means, as much as they can.
05:13 Because in the West Bank and in Gaza,
05:17 if you want to see the situation again,
05:20 There is a lot of difference.
05:22 There is a lot of difference.
05:24 In the West Bank, there are a lot of Jewish settlements.
05:29 I think the name of the settlement is in Urdu.
05:32 And the security of this is very strict.
05:36 You can't attack it easily.
05:39 It's not that easy, practically speaking.
05:41 That's why I want to confirm this to you.
05:44 There is no such thing as the Fath Bicha,
05:46 nor the Islamic Jihad, nor the Jabha,
05:48 or any of the many groups.
05:50 Whatever they have the power,
05:52 and as much as they have the power,
05:54 they are working right now.
05:56 Because the message of Hamas,
05:58 at the beginning of this campaign,
06:00 is not only for the Palestinian factions or groups.
06:03 It's for the entire Muslim and Arab Ummah.
06:06 It is enough.
06:08 What has been happening for the past 75 years,
06:10 should be ended.
06:12 Now, as much as they succeed,
06:14 or as much as they won't succeed,
06:16 but they have already succeeded.
06:19 Because the image of the Jewish and Israeli army,
06:22 in the Arab world and the Muslim Ummah,
06:24 they have been destroyed.
06:27 The Iron Dome has been broken.
06:29 The question that the Western media is raising,
06:33 the question that Abdul Rehman Sahib raises,
06:35 is that where did these modern rockets come from?
06:38 The ones who make these rockets themselves,
06:40 their capacity was there,
06:42 and now their range has increased.
06:44 But which country is giving them these modern weapons?
06:47 Where are these things coming from from Hamas?
06:49 These questions are being raised by the Western media.
06:52 And where did this funding come from?
06:54 And also tell us,
06:56 how much truth is there in the allegations against Iran?
06:59 Okay, look,
07:01 it is possible that some help is coming from some side or some place.
07:05 Maybe.
07:06 But no one has proof of this.
07:08 Number one.
07:09 Number two, this is a wonderful thing.
07:11 Now, because, look,
07:13 this is just history and recent history, by the way,
07:17 is telling us,
07:19 the more weapons someone has,
07:21 the more advance, the more power they have,
07:23 the more aircrafts, tanks, etc.
07:26 With this, you can't win a war.
07:33 It is not enough.
07:35 It is a matter of conscience,
07:37 it is a matter of passion,
07:38 it is a matter of ideology,
07:39 it is a matter of faith.
07:40 Conviction.
07:41 Exactly.
07:42 And this is what practically happened in Gaza.
07:46 It is such a small place,
07:48 besieged since about 16 years,
07:52 okay?
07:53 Despite this, they have also made tunnels,
07:56 they have brought some scrap metal,
07:59 made some pipe-shaped rocket launcher.
08:03 These were on the side of Egypt,
08:05 these tunnels and all.
08:06 So Egypt said that we will close the tunnels,
08:09 so are they still there?
08:10 Exactly, they have closed them.
08:11 But despite this,
08:13 the power of Hamas is almost underground, by the way.
08:17 When you go to Gaza,
08:19 in the streets, in the roads,
08:21 you will not see anything.
08:23 There is no Hamas factory,
08:25 no armoured factory,
08:27 no storage depot,
08:29 nothing like that.
08:30 Everything is underground.
08:32 The surprising thing is that
08:33 the issue is an ideological issue.
08:36 The Palestinian issue
08:39 is a war of truth and falsehood.
08:42 It is not about how much resources you have
08:46 and how many armies you have,
08:48 how many aircrafts, how many jets.
08:50 Mr. Abdur Rahman,
08:51 in the first battle of the Muslims,
08:53 the Battle of Badr,
08:54 if you look at the number of Muslims
08:56 and the number of infidels,
08:58 what was the number?
09:00 So even then, the Muslims were victorious.
09:02 This was the help of Allah.
09:03 With the help of Allah,
09:04 when you have passion and faith,
09:06 Allah's help comes.
09:08 But the question is that
09:10 the 1967 border,
09:12 if that happens,
09:13 will it be successful?
09:15 Will it be the result of the Hamas?
09:17 Or will it be the result of the old demarcation
09:20 of the 1940s?
09:22 Take the matter according to that.