Sawal Yeh Hai | Maria Memon | ARY News | 22nd October 2023

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00:00 Assalam-o-Alaikum, program Sawali ke saath mein hui, I am Maryam Aiman, I am with you top stories. Nawaz Sharif sahib bil aakhir wapas aagaye hain, kalki jo unki takreer thi, usse jo wazeh peghaam hai wo yeh hai, ke Shahbaz Sharif ke wafahmat ke bayaniya ko philhaal apna liya gaya hai.
00:22 Uske baad baat karenge hum Nawaz Sharif ke wapasi ke saath saath jo saab ka ittihadi hain, Pakistan People's Party aur PMLN yeh bhi aamne saamne aa gaye hain, yeh kya ek harmless political banter hai yaa waqay maamilat sangeen hai, ispe baat karenge program ke doosra hisse Pakistan People's Party se humare saath maujood hunge Faisal Karim Kundi sahib.
00:39 Aur humne Arshad Sharif ko humse bichhde ek saal gozar gaya, yaadhe taza karenge Arshad ki insaaf ka amal kaha tak poncha hai yeh saara hum aapke saath share karenge program ke aakhir hisse mein. Lekin aagaz karte hain Nawaz Sharif sahib ki jo wapasi hai uske baad.
00:51 Aur humne takreer ki gayi, subah se jo ek expect kiya jaara tha ki yeh takreer define karegi ke aage ka bayaniya PMLN ka kya hoga, toh wo kal bada waze ho gaya hai. Kuch 6 ke karib rakaat humne takreer ke humne nikaale hain, jo 6 aaham baatein Nawaz Sharif sahib ki takreer mein thi.
01:07 Aur humne yeh kaha hai ki ab jo bhi PMLN ki aapne performance ko dekhna hai, wo 2017 ke waqat ka dekhna hai. Jo pichla 18 maa guzrein hai PDM ki haqoomat ke, usko bul jaye, usko yaad na rakhein.
01:22 2016 aur 17 ki PMLN ki government jahan maamla chhod ke gayi thi, usse yaad rakhein, ispe humne kya kaha suni.
01:28 Udhaar le ke bijli ka bill dena padta hai, log kuch kushkiyan kar rahein. Ek baat mai aapko bada du, yeh silfila jo hai, yeh Shabaz Sharif ke zamane ka nahi hai. Yeh usse bahut pehle ka shuru ho chuka tha.
01:46 Iske alawa jo sabse aaham baat jiske baare mein sab log khatche aur apne andeshon ka aizhar kar rahein the ki Nawaz Sharif sahib wapas aa rahein hai, toh kisi badle ki aag ke tehd aa rahein hai, iske baare mein unhne clarity di, ek baar nahi, do baar nahi, teen chaar martaba unhne kaha ki unhke dil mein badle ki tamanna nahi.
02:07 Mere dil ke andar koi intikam ki tamanna nahi hai, badle ki koi tamanna nahi hai Nawaz Sharif ke dil mein.
02:18 Beaniya kya hoga? Zahir si baat hai, har koi yeh sawal pooch raha hai, ki PMLN ke jo qaid wapas aayenge beaniya kya leke aayenge, toh beaniya ke issue ko kaise address kiya, ki beaniya kya hoga PMLN ka, yeh suni.
02:30 Hum se poochte hain, hamara beaniya kya hai? Hamara beaniya poochne hai toh fir Orange Line se poocho, Karachi ki Green Line se poocho, hamara beaniya poochne hai toh Metro Bus se poocho, Peshawar Islamabad Motorway se poocho, hamara beaniya poochne hai toh fir Chagi ke Atomic Damako se poocho.
02:54 Agenda kya hoga? Yani ki agla plan kya hai? What's the way forward? Iske baare mein kya kaha Nawaz Sharif sahab apni takreer mein yeh suni?
03:03 Hamara Muslim-e-Gnoon ka agenda inshaAllah yeh hi hoga. Apne akharajat mein kami karni hai, apne qaumi malkiyat ke idaro ke intizam betathrik se karna hai, baramdaat ko barana hai, zaraat ki inkalabi islahat karni hai aur Pakistan ko IT power banana hai.
03:28 Insaaf ke nizam ko islahat leke aani hai waha pe. Bijli ke rates ko kam karenge mere saath milkar. Dollar sasta karenge, mengaayi kam karenge, berujgaari ka khatma karenge, traverse banayenge.
03:42 Ek bahot bada sawaliya nishan idaro ke saath taluqat ke hawale se misha uthaya jata hai, jo chahe wo personal ho, yeh professional capacity mein ho, PMLN ke, Qaid ke, uss sawale se kya kaha, milkar aagey badh ke kaam karna hai, yeh zara suni.
03:58 Aayin ki rooh ke mutaabik, mutahid hokar, mustakbil ka plan banayen. Hawaare aayin par amal dharamak karte wale riyasati idhare, jamaatein aur riyasat ke satunon ko milkar kaam karna hoga.
04:14 Yeh toh wo saari baatein thi, jo Nawaz Sharif sahab ne kal apni takreer mein kahi. Aisi baatein bhi kuch hain, jo unhone apni takreer mein nahi ki, kya wo karna bhool gaye, ya jaanbooch ke philhaal unka zikar nahi kiya, wo kaunsi cheezin si jiska zikar unhone apni takreer mein nahi kiya.
04:30 For example, waqt par election ka jo mutaalba hai, election se mutaalik kisi bhi kisam ki mutaalba ke hawaale se, wo yeh baat karna kal ki takreer mein bhool gaye tha.
04:41 Saab ka establishment aur judges ke ittasab ki baat bhi Nawaz Sharif sahab ne kal nahi ki, haala ke 10-15 din pehle hi, wo General Wajwa, General Faiz, sabik Chief Justice sahiban ka naam lekar keh rahe the, ki jab tak yeh theek nahi hogi course correction, baat aage nahi badh sakti.
04:57 Lekin kal ki takreer mein, humne dekha ki is taraf wo nahi kare.
05:01 Shabaz Sharif sahab ki hukumat ki 16 maa ki karkardagi, zayir si baat hai, waha pe kuch mention karne ko chuke hai nahi, to uske baare mein bhi bade conveniently, kal zikar nahi kiya, ke guzashta 16-18 maa PMLN led government thi, lekin wo bilkul invisible tha kal ke khitab se.
05:16 Yeh bhi batana bhul gaye, jo intikam na lene ki wo baat kar rahe hain, jo ke ek achi baat hai, kya yeh offer unke siyasi mukhalifeen ke liye bhi hai?
05:37 Don Afwad ne kal ki takreer ke waal se, bada dilchast daariya likhe, jisme wo likhte hai, ke yeh baat waze hogaya, ke Nawaz Sharif apna beyaaniye badlna chahate hain, Nawaz Sharif apni takreer mein mujhe kyu nikala, par ab zyada zor nahi de rahe, Nawaz Sharif ne vote ko izzat do ki baat bhi nahi ki, Nawaz Sharif ki takreer petrol, bijli, dollar, mehngai ki gird goomti rahi, aur wo maujooda Bhoran ki zimmedaari lene ki bajaye, ab bhi isi makbul beyaaniye ko apnana chahate hain.
06:01 So, program ke pehle hisse mein humare saath maujood hain Mohammad Jubeir sahab, senior NMI PMLN ke bach chuke Zubair sahab, sabse pehle toh kal ka jalsa, very good power show, achha hai ke Nawaz Sharif sahab wapas lote, popular siyasatdaanon ko medaane amal me bhi, medaane siyasat me bhi, aur apne logon ke darmayan hona chahiye, so it was very good development, jo kal hi kaam hua hai, lekin thodas aage badte hain, kal ki takreer ke jo maamlaat hain, us pe zara focus karna chahati hun.
06:25 Maamla Allah par chhod diya hai, yeh kaha tha jab aakhri martabaar Dard sahab ki humne London mein unke apartment ke bahar se Nawaz Sharif sahab ke press conference suni thi, so kya ab hum yeh samjhein, ki technically chuke kal baat nahi ki, sahab ka establishment ki, ab yeh maamlaat Allah par chhod diya hai PMLN ne, as per policy?
06:45 Ji as per policy, zahirah PM Nawaz Sharif defines the policy, aur wo jab baat kar rahe the sirf apne leeh, apne bhihaab par nahi kar rahe the, poori PMLN ki leadership ke bhihaab par kar rahe the, so Shehbaz Sharif ka bhi point of view yeh hi hai, aapne Ishaq Dard sahab ko khud suna tha, wahan London mein jo unhone baat ki thi, so the entire party is on board as far as this Bihania is concerned, aur dekhe ek cheez main bataun ke politics ho, yeh koi aur cheez ho, kuch na kuch balancing zaroor kar rahe hai,
07:14 yeh nahi hota ki yeh aap kahein, wo pehle aap kahe rahe the to ab aapne kyun, baat yeh hai ki sabse zyada important cheez hai, ki Pakistan ka aam chehri jo hai, uske jo mushkilat hain, usme kami kis tarah se hogi, aur wo kya expect kar rahe hai PM Nawaz Sharif ke, agar PM Nawaz Sharif ke teen adwar ko utha ke dekha jaye,
07:35 toh they are known for ki jee unhone deliver kiya, unhone ne tarakki karahi Pakistan ko, unhone ne bahut si cheezin wo kiyin jisme aam chehri ki betri hoi, chahe wo mehngai mein significant kami thi, yah berojkaari mein significant kami thi, yah unemployment mein significant kami thi, toh wo cheez jo hai is wakt dominate kar rahi hai,
07:59 har tarah ke log jo unse mil rahe hain, party ke logon ke ilawa bhi, wo is cheez par emphasize kar rahe hain, ki agar hum Imran Khan ka tenure dekhe aur usme jo unse delivery nahi hoi, usme sabse badi wajah yeh thi, ki wo wo pakad takad ki siyasat par zyada believe karte the, unka ek ego tha, unko satisfaction nahi,
08:20 Satisfaction with the government.
08:21 Satisfaction with the government.
08:22 Satisfaction with the government.
08:23 Satisfaction with the government.
08:24 This point, this clarity has come that is why your change of heart you all sat down and
08:25 decided that this policy should be ours, Nawaz Sharif ji is leading it.
08:28 But 15 days ago, not a very old matter, but 15 days ago Nawaz Sharif ji's desire and
08:32 desire was something else.
08:33 He took the name of General Bajwa, he took the name of General Faiz, he took the name
08:40 of the former Chief Justice.
08:42 15 days ago, were he not connected with public opinion, he did not know what problems this
08:47 country had?
08:48 You had to go and sit and explain to Nawaz Sharif ji, then he got to know that this is
08:53 the public mood.
08:54 Maria, your concern would have been that if he had said in yesterday's speech that General
09:00 Bajwa or General, or whatever other General or Judge, Chief Justice Saqib Nisar or last
09:08 Chief Justice or other judges, that we said that they did not do anything wrong.
09:15 They did not derail the democracy of Pakistan.
09:18 They did not destroy PMLN.
09:20 We are not saying this.
09:22 We have not started saying that they were very good people, General Faiz Hamid and General
09:27 Bajwa and they did their job properly and the decisions that the judges gave were also
09:33 correct.
09:34 We have not made any change.
09:36 We have only changed that we are not going to settle the score because if we act on that
09:42 policy, will it benefit the common citizen of Pakistan?
09:48 It will not.
09:49 I was giving you Imran Khan's example because when he used to stand at places like Washington
09:55 and say that I have sent Rana Salaamullah to jail by putting moustache or maybe Khakha
10:02 Nawazi used to say that I should be sued, I sent him to jail.
10:06 There is no satisfaction.
10:08 The Prime Minister is elected.
10:10 There are institutions like NAB, Anti-Corruption, FIA, which if they understand that something
10:19 was against the law and they should pursue it, the executive has no role in that.
10:25 But Zubair sahib, wait, wait, when we used to say this to the people of Tariq-e-Insaaf,
10:29 they used to say that the institutions are doing it, NAB is doing it, FIA is doing it,
10:33 legal cases are being made, we have not made these cases, the People's Party has made them
10:37 and the institutions are pursuing them independently.
10:40 This is exactly the same trope that the people are going crazy on.
10:43 No, it is absolutely wrong.
10:44 I tend to disagree.
10:45 Shehzad Akbar sahib was appointed to pursue accountability, not accountability, but to
10:53 pursue persecution.
10:54 He had a role.
10:55 He used to report to the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
10:56 Why was he doing all this?
10:57 He was doing it because it was Imran Khan's wish.
10:58 Imran Khan wanted to see his country's future.
10:59 He wanted to see the country's future.
11:00 He wanted to see the country's future.
11:01 He wanted to see the country's future.
11:02 He wanted to see the country's future.
11:03 He wanted to see the country's future.
11:04 He wanted to see the country's future.
11:05 He wanted to see the country's future.
11:06 He wanted to see the country's future.
11:07 He wanted to see his political opponents behind bars and if a case was not made, he
11:11 would be persecuted in a different way.
11:13 So this was part of his agenda.
11:15 He was mistaken that if he did this, happiness would come to Pakistan.
11:19 How could happiness come?
11:20 Happiness comes from the work of the people.
11:22 From providing them with employment.
11:23 Fair enough.
11:24 Sir, this offer of not taking revenge is for your political opponent, the Chairman of
11:27 the Justice Movement, and your or your colleague, the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
11:30 Is this for them?
11:31 No.
11:32 Absolutely.
11:33 The political opponents are political opponents.
11:34 Why would we take a path for them that derails the entire democracy.
11:35 We could do something for them and benefit ourselves, but it would not benefit Pakistan.
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