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PML-N 'divided' over talks with opposition - Maria Memon's Report
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Mariam Aiman with the Top Stories of Muzaqqaraat.
00:12Is it a good intention and is it right?
00:15We will talk about this in the first part of the program.
00:17The government and the opposition have agreed, but this matter will not reach a logical conclusion.
00:21After this, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa has issued a white paper against the government.
00:25It is about the economy.
00:26Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is the finance minister of the government.
00:32We will ask him how much truth is there in this matter.
00:36Why has the national clean air policy not been implemented?
00:39We are seeing that Pakistan is facing smog and natural calamities.
00:45This is due to climate change, but our priorities are misplaced.
00:49We will talk about this in the last part of the program.
00:51We are seeing that Pakistan is facing smog and natural calamities.
00:56Yesterday, Khawaja Saad Rafiq gave a speech, which was later endorsed by Rana Sanaullah.
01:02In fact, he gave some additions in the speech.
01:05Khawaja Saad Rafiq took the names of seven people.
01:08Rana Sanaullah added the names of three more people.
01:12What was the matter?
01:14There are some people who are not a part of the government and who are not allies of the PTI.
01:19But they matter to the politics of Pakistan.
01:21For example, Maulana Fazlur Rahman, Shafiz Naeem, Shahid Khan Abbasi, Dr. Malik Bloch,
01:27Aftab Khan Sherpao, Isha Pagara Sharif, Chaudhary Nisar Ali Khan.
01:32There are other people like this.
01:33I would like to request them to bring some intellectuals with them.
01:37Let's see what is the way out of this problem.
01:41In these names, there should be the name of Mian Nawaz Sharif.
01:44In these names, there should be the name of Imran Khan.
01:48And in these names, there should be the name of Asif Ali Jardari.
01:52These people should sit down.
01:54They have been in this country for 70 years.
01:57They can end in 70 days.
01:59The PMLN has such a mentality.
02:02On the other hand, there are people like Khawaja Asif Ali Abbasi.
02:06They also represent the hardcore constituency of the PMLN.
02:10They say, what is the need to talk?
02:13Why is there a sudden discussion?
02:15Who is behind this?
02:16Is someone making them sit?
02:17Has someone put pressure on them?
02:19So clearly, in the PMLN, some coroners are not happy with these meetings, discussions and negotiations.
02:25Listen to what they say.
02:27I will definitely ask this question.
02:29I will ask this question again and again.
02:30Why now?
02:31What has happened in the last 15-20 days that we have suddenly started negotiations?
02:35And the committee itself has created a committee.
02:38Don't talk like a farmer.
02:40Someone tell me the secret.
02:42The Speaker should tell me.
02:43Saad Ravik should tell me.
02:44What is the secret behind this?
02:46A collective government is being tried to establish on the Shyam Model.
02:50Be it in the form of BLA.
02:52Be it in the form of Khawarij.
02:53Be it in the form of water PTI conspiracies.
02:55If you want to negotiate with them, then do it with BLA.
02:58Then you can do it with Khawarij.
03:01Is this really just a speech?
03:04Some elements have come forward to sabotage the negotiations.
03:07Tariq-e-Insaaf understands that Khawaja Asif gives such statements to deliberately stop the negotiations.
03:17And Faisal Chaudhary thinks that the Marim Nawaz group in the party does not want to negotiate.
03:24Listen to their position.
03:27I think Khawaja Asif is one of those elements in which his own party says that they want to sabotage the negotiations.
03:35There are no such spoilers.
03:37There are some elements in the government that do not take the negotiations seriously.
03:42And there is a group in the Noon League and the government that wants to sabotage the negotiations.
03:50So the negotiations should not happen.
03:53Shahid Khan Abbasi is with us in the first part of the program.
03:56He is a former Prime Minister and the head of the People's Pakistan Party.
04:00Thank you very much for joining us, Mr. Abbasi.
04:02Khawaja Saad Rafiq took your name.
04:04We asked him to call you.
04:06He thinks you are one of those intelligent people.
04:10Mr. Khawaja was saying that we should sit down and talk.
04:13Later, Mr. Rana Sinhaullah also mentioned Imran Khan, Zardari, Nawaz Sharif.
04:19Are the negotiations between the government and the opposition going well?
04:24Is their intention right?
04:26Or should we at least agree on this?
04:28Thank God that they are talking.
04:31It is good to talk, but I don't see a solution.
04:35Because the government and the opposition have a forum.
04:41That is the parliament.
04:43You can talk in the parliament, whatever you want to do.
04:46There is no need to go out and negotiate.
04:49If you want to talk about the country and the issues of the country,
04:53then you can do it in the parliament.
04:55The government and the opposition are a team in all this.
05:01I don't understand what you will talk about.
05:04What will you get out of it?
05:06Look at the number of groupings in the government.
05:09Some say that there should be no talks.
05:12These are strange issues.
05:15But there is no doubt that today,
05:18there is a division in our country.
05:23There is a division between the opposition and the government.
05:29This needs to be ended.
05:31What is the difference between talking in the parliament and through this committee?
05:34We have seen this in the past.
05:35Committees have talked about big issues.
05:37Because the representation is of those parties who are sitting in the parliament.
05:40So what will be different on the floor of the parliament,
05:42which committees cannot do among themselves?
05:44Committees are given the power to talk about specific issues.
05:50If you want to talk about the issues of the country in general,
05:54then the forum is the parliament.
05:56You can talk in the committee, I have no objection.
05:58But such issues are not solved.
06:00Today, there is a clear divide between the government and the opposition.
06:08The government says that you have committed a crime,
06:11we will put you in jail.
06:12The government says that the elections are fine,
06:14we will sit on the chair.
06:16Imran Khan's position is that Imran Khan should be released.
06:20End this case and correct the election theft.
06:24This is such a big issue, how will you bridge it?
06:28What Saad Rafiq has said has weight in it.
06:32A third party can bridge this issue.
06:34Who will be the third party?
06:36The one he has mentioned.
06:37The people who are neither with the opposition nor with the government.
06:41They will play the role of bridging this issue.
06:44How will they do it? What will be their role?
06:46They will meet everyone.
06:48They will play the role of mediators.
06:54They will listen here and there.
06:56A third party is also in the country.
06:58The establishment.
07:00You have to include them as well as the judiciary.
07:03Talk to everyone and find a solution to this issue.
07:07This is not how the country is running.
07:10Believe me, this is not possible.
07:12This hypocrisy has to be removed.
07:14Some trust has to be rebuilt.
07:17In the political system,
07:19what does the establishment want?
07:22What does the judiciary want?
07:24You have to create a consensus on all these issues.
07:27Rebuild trust.
07:29Let's discuss party to party.
07:31How can the government rebuild trust?
07:33Because they will have more responsibility.
07:36The government will have to step back from its stance.
07:39There is no doubt that this government is the result of a manipulated election.
07:46They don't keep the mandate of the people.
07:48They don't even have a good performance.
07:51If you don't stop and look at the performance of the government,
07:56what laws have they made?
07:58For the first time, the government has fired bullets.
08:01People have died.
08:03You have to step back from all these stances.
08:07You will have to do this for the country.
08:10We will have to talk about the country.
08:12The relief that a person gets,
08:14or a community gets,
08:16or a position is supported or denied,
08:19that is a secondary thing that will come out of the same solution.
08:22When you find a solution to the problems of the country,
08:25for example, the biggest need of Pakistan today is reform.
08:29So you have to set an agenda for reform.
08:31Try to implement it.
08:33When you discuss the modalities of implementation,
08:37when you discuss its method,
08:39that will bring relief to all these issues.
08:41So the government will have to step back from its stance.
08:44The government and the opposition will have to find a way.
08:47First let's talk about the government.
08:49If the government steps back from its stance,
08:51then what will be left for them?
08:53There is no politics.
08:55If the government steps back from its stance,
08:57then the government will lose its weakness.
08:59Sir, there is no political solution to this.
09:01I am not saying that you should leave the seats.
09:03You have the strength of the seats.
09:05Step back from it.
09:07The country is not running because of you.
09:09You have to admit this.
09:11Look at the differences in the ruling coalition.
09:14What did Bilawal Bhutto say yesterday?
09:16There is a clear fracture in the ruling coalition.
09:20So how will the country run?
09:22When we talk about the country running,
09:24we will find a way for the country to move forward.
09:27We will include the opposition.
09:29From there you will find a solution to the political problems of the country.
09:32So the government will have to step back from its stance.
09:35The opposition will also have to step back from its stance.
09:37The opposition will also have to step back.
09:39This means that the government should accept this mandate.
09:42Let this system run.
09:44Let it run on a mid-term election.
09:46For now, don't bother.
09:48This is what they want.
09:50They can step back from this stance.
09:52No, no.
09:53You should also be a part of the reform process
09:56Mr. Imran Khan.
09:58The PTI is only talking about the release of Imran Khan.
10:02They don't have any other demands.
10:04This election is wrong.
10:06I have no doubt about this.
10:08Elections have been stolen in the country.
10:10But if you just put this agenda on the table of negotiations,
10:14that first solve this, then negotiations will be done.
10:16The priority of their voters is number one,
10:18that Imran Khan has been brought out.
10:20This is the demand of leadership.
10:22This is the demand of leadership
10:24that you give a secondary status to those issues.
10:27You give the real status to the country's issues,
10:32that you sit down to solve the country's issues.
10:35Don't sit down to solve these issues,
10:37that who is in jail or lying in jail,
10:39who has put it, why has put it, how has put it.
10:41Give this matter a secondary status.
10:43Keep the country's issues on the top of the list.
10:47When you find a solution to it,
10:49you will find a solution to all these issues.
10:51Sir, how will it happen?
10:52What can be the confidence building measure?
10:54Everyone should sit down and set an agenda
10:56about what reforms should be done in the country.
10:58No, how will there be reforms?
10:59A government which you are saying is illegitimate,
11:01which is not being governed by them.
11:03Reforms are a very tough agenda.
11:04They are done by very popular governments.
11:06How will they do reforms in such a fractured democracy?
11:09I don't want to do it. Start doing it.
11:11You still don't have any plan
11:14about what reforms should be done.
11:15I don't even see the intention.
11:16You sit down.
11:17There is no space.
11:18Then you will sit down.
11:19Everyone has their own thinking.
11:20Everyone says, I have made a manifesto.
11:22I will do this, I will do that.
11:24I will fix everything.
11:25Then you sit down and fix everything together.
11:27Modalities will be decided after that.
11:30First, you have to set an agenda
11:32about what the country needs.
11:34How we have to do it,
11:36this is the next step.
11:37So, despite being in the jail of a popular leader,
11:40do you think there can be reforms?
11:42Can there be an agenda?
11:43Can there be a consensus on something?
11:45The solution to their issue will come from there.
11:48Everyone has gone to jail.
11:49There is no such apocalypse in jail.
11:51It is wrong.
11:52I am not in favour of it at all.
11:53We have put every political leader in jail.
11:56Even today.
11:57Give them a little patience.
11:59A year has passed.
12:00Two to four months will pass.
12:02But when you start the process of reform,
12:04the matter under which they have gone to jail,
12:07that process will also have to be reformed.
12:09That will also be part of the reform.
12:11That we will not make a jail case.
12:13There will be an action against those who make a jail case.
12:16You have to correct these things.
12:18Every part of the country's system has failed.
12:22You have to rebuild everything.
12:24It is not in the hands of any one Jamaat.
12:26Whose responsibility is more?
12:27Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan.
12:29Zardari.
12:30All three have been named by Mr. Anas Nawla.
12:32Who can play the most important role at the moment?
12:34Among the three.
12:35All three will have to sit.
12:37All three are big shareholders today.
12:39But all three are not related to this matter.
12:41Why is Nawaz Sharif not related?
12:43Zardari is still the President of Pakistan.
12:45He is somehow functional in this system.
12:48Nawaz Sharif was completely different.
12:50Only he can answer this.
12:52His Jamaat is there.
12:53His brother is the Prime Minister.
12:54His daughter is the Prime Minister.
12:55They are there.
12:56They have to take part in this.
12:57But do you feel that there is a lack among the big shareholders?
13:00He should have led from the front.
13:02And he is not doing it.
13:03Either they have given up on politics.
13:05That is fine.
13:06Now my heart is up.
13:07No, they cannot give up.
13:08This is their responsibility.
13:09Today it is their responsibility.
13:10They are the senior politicians of this country.
13:12They should play a role today.
13:14They should be seen playing a role.
13:16Solving this matter.
13:20In this political turmoil, your country will not move forward.
13:24It will go back.
13:25No investment will come here.
13:27No economy will grow.
13:28No jobs will be created.
13:30No business will grow.
13:31No young people will get anything.
13:33This disappointment will increase.
13:35Because of political turmoil.
13:37That is why you have to play your role to correct all this.
13:41Whether we are in government or not.
13:43Whether we are in the parliament or not.
13:45Today the political leadership of this country.
13:47Military leadership.
13:48Judicial leadership.
13:49It is the responsibility of all of them.
13:51These are not 200 people.
13:53These are not even 10 people.
13:55Today they have to sit and decide the agenda.
13:58Then how to implement it.
14:00They have to decide that.
14:01In this, the rest of the matters will also be decided.
14:03What is the middle way?
14:04The win-win situation for both.
14:06Because you also need political face-saving.
14:08The country is also right.
14:09It should be a priority for you.
14:11At the same time, they also have to run their politics.
14:13Tariq-e-Insaaf should move away from his rhetoric.
14:15That we will not take an aggressive approach to the elections.
14:19Then their politics will end.
14:21Nawaz Sharif should give political space to Imran Khan.
14:24Then their politics will end.
14:25This is a do-or-die situation.
14:28This is not a zero-sum game.
14:29This is not do-or-die.
14:30There is always a way out.
14:32This was the same in 2018.
14:34There was a big thought.
14:36Don't go to the parliament.
14:38But then this decision was made.
14:39Whatever has happened, we should learn from it.
14:41But at least let the system work.
14:44Now the need has become different from that.
14:47More need has increased than that.
14:49When you talk about the country,
14:52Your complaints are completely justified.
14:55Because this is also a part of the country's affairs.
15:00The corruption of the election.
15:02Which puts people in jail.
15:04The solution to this will also come from that agenda.
15:06Which you will sit and decide.
15:08If any party is left out,
15:11Then your agenda will not be decided.
15:13The big parties, especially the opposition,
15:16Will have to become a part of that agenda.
15:18The next step is for implementation.
15:20How will they do it?
15:21The matter of that can also be decided.
15:23The situation is such that
15:24The name that Saad Rafiq has taken yesterday,
15:26Your name is also there.
15:27The name of other leaders is also there.
15:29Will they be ready to come forward at this time?
15:31For example, I will ask you.
15:32Will your party be ready?
15:34This is not a matter of our politics today.
15:37Today it is a matter of the country.
15:39Today it is a matter of uniting the country.
15:41Today it is a matter of the country's problems.
15:43Today it is a matter of the country's reforms.
15:45Politics should have a purpose.
15:47The purpose of politics is to put someone in jail,
15:49Not to get someone out.
15:51The purpose of politics is the country, its people.
15:53We are not talking about it here.
15:55So you are starting meetings.
15:57You are saying meet, meet, meet.
15:59Because I have seen you meeting.
16:01Yes, we are also trying.
16:04As Saad Rafiq has said,
16:05We are also doing the same thing.
16:07I agree with him.
16:09And we are trying.
16:11We are talking to other people.
16:14Then we will go to everyone.
16:16We will hold their feet.
16:17We will thank them for thinking about this country.
16:20It is not that difficult.
16:22But it has become a problem.
16:24We have taken some rigid positions.
16:27If you have to meet for the first time,
16:28Who will you meet?
16:30The first meeting will be with the opposition and the government.
16:33The rest will come after that.
16:35Will you meet Nawaz Sharif or Shabaz Sharif?
16:37The government is the same.
16:39Whatever they want to say.
16:41Does Shabaz Sharif have the power or Nawaz Sharif?
16:44They can decide.
16:46We cannot do that.
16:47They can decide.
16:49The party is the Muslim League.
16:52Let's start with Saad Rafiq.
16:54He took your name.
16:56Saad Rafiq is not directly a part of the government.
17:00But he can give his opinion.
17:02We are not a part of the government or the opposition.
17:04But we can play our role in solving this issue.
17:09Tell me,
17:11All these meetings,
17:13This is internal politics.
17:15How much power does the government have?
17:17How helpless are they?
17:19Because I want to hear Irfan Siddiqui's statement.
17:21Then I will tell you that you have been in power.
17:24Mr. Siddiqui, what do you have to say about these negotiations?
17:29We should try to sit on the PTI's sessions for a while.
17:37And realize their condition.
17:41And for a while, they should sit on our sessions.
17:44Spiritually, mentally, emotionally.
17:47Because they have also been in power.
17:49They have been facing the same difficulties.
17:51Like they are today.
17:53If we understand each other's difficulties,
17:55each other's limitations,
17:57and understand each other's emotions,
17:59then things will move forward.
18:01Is there any helplessness of the government?
18:03Is there any limitation?
18:05They don't have much room to talk right now.
18:09Yes, that is also part of the solution to this issue.
18:12It is in our country.
18:14There is no doubt about it.
18:16It has increased.
18:18It has increased a lot.
18:20There is a need to end the helplessness of the government.
18:24Because everyone will become a part of it.
18:27Everyone who has an influence on the affairs of this country,
18:32the establishment, the judiciary,
18:34they will also have to become a part of the country's problems.
18:37They cannot leave it.
18:39Nor should they stay.
18:41That is why,
18:43this matter also,
18:45the government's helplessness,
18:47the government's helplessness,
18:49cannot interfere in the development of the country.
18:52It cannot interfere in the implementation of reforms.
18:56This is not possible.
18:58We have no such helplessness that we should not improve our country.
19:01No, Mr. Imran Khan,
19:02keeping him in jail is a helplessness.
19:04When he comes out,
19:05he feels that his popularity will be very difficult.
19:07Are these helplessness,
19:08or is it a desire, or a hobby?
19:10If keeping Imran Khan in jail is a helplessness,
19:12then your political status is over.
19:14If the ruling party thinks that if the opposition leader comes out,
19:18then my government is in danger,
19:22then I think they should leave the government.
19:25Are you seeing a difference in the political situation after 20th January?
19:28Because when there will be changes all over the world,
19:30policy shift will take place in Pakistan,
19:32do you think there will be a difference in the political arena,
19:35a wind of change?
19:37Look, if your house will be weak,
19:39if there will be a movement in your country,
19:41then you will have to listen to people.
19:43Then people will interfere in your work.
19:46Then your compulsions will increase.
19:48So, improve your house,
19:51so that the pressure will come on you,
19:54and the pressure will come on you.
19:55Do you think it will come?
19:56Your pressure, different types of pressure will come on you.
19:58What kind of pressure are you anticipating?
20:04Look, if this pressure comes on you,
20:06then you will be sanctioned,
20:08your institutions will be sanctioned.
20:12This type of pressure will come on you.
20:14You are a big country, you are an Islamic country,
20:17you have nuclear capability,
20:21you have missile capability.
20:23This is what some countries in the world are afraid of.
20:27So, they will try to put pressure on you.
20:30You can only compete with this as an united nation.
20:35This type of pressure, in my opinion, will come on you.
20:39There is pressure from the internal politics as well.
20:41They think that the policy will change,
20:43that Trump's relations with Imran Khan are good,
20:45that there will be a tweet,
20:47you can see that people from the cabinet are tweeting,
20:50sending messages.
20:52Do you see such a change?
20:53This is also a part of the pressure on the country.
20:55They will use your internal politics as well,
20:58to put pressure on you.
21:00There is no need to worry about that.
21:02But if we talk about this under the pretext of human rights violation,
21:06then you should think for yourself,
21:08that the government doesn't have any element of human rights violation.
21:13Like we have done with the military courts,
21:15if we had done the same trial in the civil courts,
21:18in the anti-terrorism courts,
21:20then these pressures wouldn't have come on you.
21:22Now they will come.
21:23So, you have to compete with them.
21:25All these issues that I am talking about,
21:27you should be a part of them.
21:29And they will increase.
21:31Thank you very much, Shahid Khan Abbasi,
21:33for being with us.
21:34The Wifaqi government has charged the government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
21:38with serious allegations against the KP government.
21:41We will take their answer from the KP government,
21:43after the break.
21:46Welcome back.
21:47Wifaq has issued a white paper against the government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
21:51They have reviewed their governance,
21:53especially their financial liabilities.
21:56They have put a lot of pressure on them.
21:58First of all, the information minister has put a lot of pressure on them.
22:01I don't know how much information he has about his own economy.
22:05But what he has accused is that,
22:07in the last 10 months,
22:09there has been a lot of corruption.
22:11I am quoting him.
22:13He has also quoted some figures,
22:16about how much money has been spent,
22:18where has there been fraud,
22:20where and how the government resources have been used.
22:25He has also quoted the claim of Hosh-e-Islamabad.
22:28What are the allegations?
22:30Let's listen to that first.
22:31After that, we will talk to the representative of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
22:34What did Mr. Tarek say?
22:36I want to release a white paper.
22:38Khyber Pakhtunkhwa will be in power for 11 years.
22:41In 10 months,
22:42there has been a misgovernance.
22:44Along with financial corruption,
22:46there is financial irregularity.
22:48152 billion rupees,
22:4913.2 crore rupees,
22:51fraudulent payments,
22:52fake companies,
22:54and all the money is diverted to social media.
22:57Money has been allocated for health.
22:59You have used it,
23:01during the protests.
23:03This is 84 billion rupees.
23:04A suspicious disbursement of 51 crore rupees.
23:07Someone tell me, where is the dam?
23:08If there were police reforms,
23:10then why would the law and order situation be so bad?
23:12We saw the vehicles of Rescue 112,
23:15inside the protests.
23:17Are these vehicles given,
23:19so that you can drive them in the protests,
23:21and send political workers to Islamabad?
23:25We have with us,
23:27Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's advisor,
23:29Muzammil Aslam Khan.
23:30Before we go to him,
23:32one more thing that Mr. Tarek said.
23:34He said that,
23:35Imran Khan has accepted,
23:37that the government of loyalty,
23:40has stabilised the economy.
23:42Listen to this.
23:43Bani Chairman PTI has admitted,
23:45that the economy has stabilised.
23:48Thank you very much for your time, Mr. Muzammil.
23:51It is a very heavy chart sheet.
23:53Let's talk about politics first,
23:55then you can answer the technical points.
23:57The big political point is that,
24:00you have used government funds,
24:03in which the vehicles of Rescue 112 have been used,
24:06the fire brigades of the Subahi government,
24:09resources have been used,
24:11when the Prime Minister of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
24:13has come to Islamabad.
24:15And,
24:16those funds,
24:18the suspicious funds,
24:20which he has quoted,
24:21he has quoted 51 crore,
24:23of suspicious funds.
24:25First tell us,
24:26that all this is being used,
24:28by the payroll of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa?
24:31In the name of Allah,
24:32Peace be upon you.
24:33I feel pity,
24:35that the Muslim League,
24:37to talk about the economy,
24:40they have left only,
24:43which they themselves,
24:45don't even know about the economy.
24:47The irregularities of 150 crore,
24:50or I don't know how many crores,
24:52that he has told,
24:54that was published in a newspaper,
24:563 days ago,
24:57that was of the caretaker government,
24:59and that too,
25:00audit irregularities,
25:01which always happen,
25:02are of the government of Wafaa,
25:04and also of the Subahi government.
25:06Secondly,
25:07he has said,
25:08that 13 crore funds,
25:09I don't know from which,
25:10I will tell you an interesting thing,
25:12because you are from the media,
25:16you must be watching other channels,
25:18you must be watching your own channel,
25:20so have you ever,
25:21by mistake,
25:22seen any advertisement,
25:23of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
25:24in the TV or newspaper?
25:25No.
25:26This morning,
25:27not by mistake,
25:28even once,
25:29okay?
25:30Now,
25:31from the time,
25:32I and Ali Amin have come,
25:34in the month of our advertisements,
25:36there has not been a single rupee payment.
25:38And,
25:39I will request you,
25:40from this program,
25:41that since the time,
25:42the Punjab government,
25:43has come,
25:44Maryam Sahiba,
25:45till now,
25:46in advertisement,
25:47and media,
25:48and in our information ministry,
25:49how much budget have you given?
25:50This,
25:51which we were talking about,
25:52of social media,
25:53social media payments,
25:54are from the information ministry.
25:56And,
25:57in our information ministry,
25:59apart from salaries,
26:00till now,
26:01we have not given money,
26:02even in advertisements.
26:03So,
26:04God willing,
26:05let our government come,
26:06and,
26:07make such an account,
26:08that in the first month,
26:09if Maryam Sahiba had come,
26:10then there would have been an allegation of taking bribe of 15 crores,
26:12from social media,
26:13digital channels.
26:14Till now,
26:15we have not made an advertisement,
26:16so,
26:17from where will we give money?
26:18Then,
26:19you talked about double 1,
26:20double 2,
26:21and this and that.
26:22But,
26:23Wazir-e-Ala,
26:24when Wazir-e-Azam,
26:25and Maryam,
26:26also roam,
26:27in their convoy,
26:28there is a car,
26:292-3 ambulances.
26:30If,
26:31Wazir-e-Ala,
26:32went with him,
26:33and stopped him,
26:34then,
26:35his bad luck is nothing,
26:36more than this.
26:37The third thing is,
26:38see,
26:39the thing is that,
26:40we have to do economic competition,
26:41so,
26:42you do economic competition with us.
26:43In the first quarter,
26:44Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's,
26:45target,
26:46IMF's,
26:47surplus,
26:48was 45 crores.
26:49We have,
26:50surplus of 103 crores,
26:51record.
26:52Go and ask,
26:53IMF.
26:54And,
26:55Punjab,
26:56where they are governing,
26:57they are very experienced,
26:58their surplus target,
26:59of 150 crores,
27:00was 160 crores,
27:01total.
27:02So,
27:03this,
27:04we will learn,
27:05I am saying,
27:06if a proper economist,
27:07sits with me,
27:08and talks with me,
27:09it will be fun.
27:10No,
27:11so,
27:12they say that,
27:13health and education,
27:14funds,
27:15specifically,
27:16quoted,
27:17that you have,
27:18diverted towards,
27:19political campaigns.
27:20By,
27:21cutting health and education,
27:22you have,
27:23funneled it,
27:24in your political activities.
27:25See,
27:26I am saying to that poor man,
27:27if you have any understanding,
27:28then talk to him.
27:29Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
27:30in 9 months,
27:31record,
27:32sometimes,
27:33in history,
27:34he has broken his own record,
27:35these poor people,
27:36don't have any record.
27:37In 9 months,
27:3830.3 billion rupees,
27:39was issued in the health card.
27:40Now,
27:41the question is,
27:42of education and health.
27:43In education and health,
27:44the salaries of the government employees,
27:45their salaries,
27:46can I cut them,
27:47and give money,
27:48to the religious people?
27:49Do you have any sense?
27:50These poor people,
27:51don't understand,
27:52this is what I am saying.
27:53Actually,
27:54today,
27:55I have given them,
27:562.24 lakhs,
27:575 lakhs,
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