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00:00 I'm so sick of Roman and the Bloodline.

00:02 Worst title run than Triple H's reign of terror.

00:06 Roman is genuinely getting to gender levels of repetitive at this point.

00:18 Breaking News!

00:19 WWE fans hate Roman Reigns.

00:23 Again.

00:25 After they hated him following Summerslam.

00:28 And after WrestleMania 39.

00:31 And the whole five years between 2014 and 2019.

00:40 Roman Reigns and WWE feel like they're taking more breaks than me and Megan when she was

00:44 just trying to figure out where she is in her life right now.

00:48 Which she apparently had to do by going on holiday to Crete with a couple of friends

00:51 and Tommy.

00:52 Why's Tommy there, Megan?

00:53 He's the only guy!

00:55 Roman took a month off after WrestleMania 39, missing Backlash.

00:59 He took two months off after Summerslam, missing Payback and Fastlane.

01:02 And following his defeat of LA Knight at Crown Jewel, Dave Meltzer has confirmed Reigns won't

01:07 be around for the rest of 2023 - where he's set to return for January 2024's Royal Rumble

01:14 build.

01:15 Sami Zayn, Cody Rhodes, Jey Uso and now LA Knight.

01:19 That's three separate runs in 2023 of Roman beating your favourite wrestler - who should

01:25 have arguably beaten him on the Premium Live event - with the exact same match and Bloodline

01:29 Interference finish.

01:31 To then go on holiday for at least a month.

01:33 As seen at the start of this video, WWE's Reigns booking has turned fans against him.

01:39 Maybe beyond a simple 'boo this heel' way, to a more negative 'I'm actually

01:45 sick of this and I'm going to stop watching' kind of way.

01:48 It's got a vocal portion of the fanbase asking, is Roman's title reign stale?

01:53 And the answer is yes.

01:56 Yes it is.

01:57 Thanks all for watching.

01:58 Make sure to subscribe to this video, see you next time.

02:04 But also maybe not.

02:07 Because business, business, business.

02:09 While building his Crown Jewel Yu-Yu Championship match against Roman, LA Knight used this very

02:13 fan resentment as motivation.

02:15 My assessment is everybody's sick of Reigns.

02:18 He's got about one title defence every three, four months.

02:21 What?

02:22 He's got six matches a year, and we're celebrating the fact that he's been champion

02:25 for 1,200 days?

02:26 You've got to be kidding me.

02:28 This revolution is going to walk in and release everybody from that tyranny with a new WWE

02:34 Champion.

02:35 Yeah, that didn't happen.

02:38 Because Roman reportedly won't wrestle again until January's Royal Rumble, that means

02:42 his 2023 in-ring year has wrapped.

02:46 Meaning we can verify Knight's claim.

02:48 He's wrong.

02:49 Roman defended his title way more in 2023 than every three to four months.

02:54 It's every 2.4 months.

02:55 Listen, there's about to be a lot of numbers here, and you can't go skipping parts of

03:00 the video because that's bad for the YouTube algorithm.

03:01 So to make good, I've included Luke Owen's disembodied head to keep you engaged.

03:06 Roman has wrestled a total of 11 matches for WWE in 2023.

03:10 Four of those were on house shows, where he either beat Rey Mysterio or Sami Zayn, and

03:14 the other seven were on Premium Live event.

03:18 He hasn't wrestled once on TV for the whole year.

03:22 Of the seven Premium Live events, only five of those had his YUMO Championship on the

03:27 line, with Kevin Owens at the Royal Rumble, Sami Zayn at Elimination Chamber, Cody Rhodes

03:31 at WrestleMania, Jey Uso at SummerSlam and LA Knight at Crown Jewel.

03:35 Roman's other two Premium Live events were tagging with Solo Sakoa against Kevin Owens

03:39 and Sami Zayn at Night of Champions, and The Usos at Money in the Bank.

03:44 For those Premium Live event matches, Roman wrestled a total of 3 hours 20 minutes in

03:49 2023, of which an estimated 3 hours 17 minutes was taunting the crowd.

03:54 This gives Roman an average 2023 match time of… 28 and a half minutes.

04:00 Only 3 hours 20 minutes of title defending in a whole year?

04:04 Surely that's not enough?

04:06 Well, let's see how it compares to the other World Champion in WWE, and the one over in

04:11 AEW.

04:13 Roman got to a point where he'd won so many of the top belts in WWE, they had to make

04:17 a new one for someone else to have.

04:19 This was the World Consolation Weight Championship that Seth Rollins won on the 27th May.

04:24 In total, Seth has wrestled 83 matches on WWE TV, pay-per-view and live events up to

04:31 Crown Jewel, compared to Roman's 11 for the whole year.

04:34 Ten of those have been on Premium Live events, with eight of them defending his world title

04:38 - which he only won in May - which have happened across TV, every pay-per-view since him winning

04:43 it, and even one special on NXT.

04:45 Those title defences have a total duration of 2 hours, 43 minutes.

04:49 34 minutes fewer than Roman, though, making Seth's average title defence 20 minutes,

04:54 20 seconds long.

04:56 A whole 8 minutes shorter than Reigns.

04:57 But that might be because opposed to walking around the ring and yelling at the crowd,

05:01 Seth actually does moves.

05:03 Interestingly, WWE's booking of Roman is very similar to his World Champion counterpart

05:08 in AEW, MJF, with both promotions having lengthy World Championship reigns to make them mean

05:14 more.

05:15 Max, for instance, just became AEW's longest reigning World Champion in its history.

05:20 MJF has wrestled 20 matches this year, 7 of which were title defences, for an amazing

05:25 total of 4 hours, 16 minutes of in-ring time.

05:29 That gives him an average match time of 36 minutes, 30 seconds.

05:33 In-ring stats wise, MJF is the hardest working World Champion across the two major North

05:39 American promotions.

05:41 But it's a different story when you only take the first half of MJF's year.

05:45 He only wrestled 8 matches total, one of which went 37 seconds.

05:50 Only 4 of those were title defences, lasting 3 hours of in-ring time total.

05:54 A whole third of that being his 65 minute Iron Man match against Bryan Danielson, bringing

05:59 his average title defence match time to 25 minutes, 40 seconds.

06:04 Four minutes shorter than Roman's.

06:06 Of course, this all changed when CM Punk turned himself into a human pipe bomb to explode

06:10 AEW from the inside out.

06:12 More on CM Punk in a bit, CM Punk to WWE confirmed.

06:15 MJF turned babyface in July's Adam Cole storyline, and he's wrestled on an almost

06:20 fortnightly basis since, sometimes twice on the same show.

06:24 So there's an argument which both AEW and WWE have made that an effective way to book

06:29 a heel champion is by having them work a reduced schedule to get them more heat from modern

06:34 crowds.

06:36 Fans want to see fighting babyfaces, meaning the heel champion is defined by doing the

06:41 opposite.

06:42 That only works, however, if your world title dominating heel is building great babyfaces

06:47 for fans to get behind in their absence, and maybe not having Roman around has created

06:52 breathing space for new stars to break out.

06:55 Cody Rhodes, beaten by Reigns at Mania, has gone on to be a proven live ticket sales difference

07:00 maker and is reportedly the top merch seller in WWE for 2023.

07:06 And Jey Uso, beaten by Reigns at SummerSlam, has continued to rise despite his loss, with

07:10 Fightful reporting his merchandise has sold exceptionally well at live events.

07:15 That Roman feud made Jey a main eventer.

07:18 It's right there in his name.

07:20 Main event Jey Uso.

07:21 It's like my nickname, Big Penis Oli Davis, because I definitely have that 'why would

07:26 I keep calling myself that other one?'

07:28 And then there's LA Knight, easily WWE's biggest organic win of 2023.

07:34 In another time, under another head of creative, maybe WWE would've booked Knight to lose

07:39 over and over again and to be put in an emasculating relationship with Eve Torres.

07:43 But Knight was steadily pushed in Roman's post-SummerSlam absence, allowing him to become

07:47 a top merch seller in WWE alongside the likes of Cena, Roman and Stone Cold.

07:54 We know this because it's been reported by the hottest new Dirt Sheet scooper in all

07:59 of wrestling… CM Punk.

08:03 Yes, I will make all stories eventually about CM Punk.

08:07 As you can see in Punk's totally not loaded post on his Instagram comparing WWE and AEW's

08:13 merch sales for 2023, LA Knight is ranked at No. 5 for WWE, only behind Cena, Roman,

08:20 Stone Cold and Cody at No. 1.

08:23 Punk was posting this as a shoutout to his good friend Dan Howson, thanking fans for

08:27 keeping him in AEW's top 10 merch sellers of 2023 despite not being on TV.

08:33 But what Punk was actually doing was showing that Punk remains the top singles merch seller

08:37 in AEW despite only being around for a few months between suspensions and firings.

08:43 "Meeting with Phil Zack and Jack Tunney at the China Club, brother" is a reference

08:47 to BWE's report that Punk has been recently scheduled for a call with a few board members

08:53 in WWE.

08:55 Board members.

08:56 Leaving people backstage to believe he will be returning, with heavily speculation on

09:01 Survivor Series BOARD GAMES in Chicago on the 26th November as the date.

09:07 Fightful is reporting WWE is continuing to deny these talks are happening, which is exactly

09:12 what people planning a surprise CM Punk return would say.

09:16 Although Abu of WrestlePurist refutes this, and SRS claims Abu is well connected for this

09:21 information.

09:22 Along with a potentially returning Randy Orton from out of nowhere, and BWE reporting "a

09:26 couple of surprises" in store, WWE have the luxury of not even needing Roman around

09:32 over the Winter.

09:33 Oh yeah, we were talking about Roman Reigns.

09:37 Dave Meltzer has reported on Wrestling Observer Radio that WWE's merchandise sales are setting

09:42 all time records.

09:45 Merchandise has never been higher.

09:47 Ever.

09:48 Not in the Attitude Era, not in the Hulk Hogan era.

09:51 Never as high as it is now.

09:54 Roman is the catalyst.

09:56 The industry we love and follow isn't called the wrestling let's put on the best artistic

10:00 performance for a reason.

10:01 It's called the wrestling business.

10:04 Where wrestlers and storylines are judged to be successful based on how much their fans

10:08 - or morally dubious kingdoms - pay money for them.

10:11 This is traditionally measured via live event tickets and merchandise sales, which remain

10:15 the real canary in the coal mine for a promotion's up or down trends, but in more modern times

10:20 has come to include long-term overarching TV rights fees, broken down into weekly TV

10:25 ratings and aforementioned deals with morally dubious kingdoms.

10:29 So if fans really are sick of Roman Reigns and the bloodline and the template of Roman's

10:33 speeches always being the same ref distraction interference cheat to win, why has 2023 for

10:40 WWE kept on going from strength to strength to strength in TV ratings, live event tickets

10:47 and merch sales?

10:48 Fightful has reported WWE officials have been very happy with TV ratings this year, specifically

10:53 talking about Roman's show SmackDown and his Bloodline segments.

10:57 Roman's thousand day title celebration episode on the 5th June and the Tribal Court episode

11:02 on July 7th were two of the highest rated SmackDown episodes in three years, sometimes

11:08 topping all of Network TV for the week in certain demos.

11:12 The Crown Jewel go-home episode of SmackDown on the 3rd November pulled in 2.25 million

11:16 viewers, making it the highest for its time slot.

11:19 Not bad for a show taped a week in advance.

11:22 If Roman's repetitive title reign really isn't working, you would expect these numbers

11:26 to be down year on year.

11:29 Using the old adage of a reigns in tide, Romans all ships…

11:34 Um, a Romans, a Roman in…

11:39 A rise…

11:41 A rising Roman lift…

11:43 I'm trying to say a rising tide lifts all boats…

11:52 Going by WWE's 2023 business metrics, live events, merch sales and TV ratings, the elevated

11:58 Roman tide stays high even when he's not around.

12:01 It's all about momentum.

12:03 WWE is, to use a Zoolander quote, so hot right now.

12:06 And Roman Reigns is its blue steel.

12:09 Which is why it isn't just SmackDown that's increased in ratings.

12:13 Both Raw and NXT have been up consistently throughout 2023 on their 2022 numbers, and

12:18 a TV viewership landscape where everyone else is in decline.

12:21 AEW, for instance, has seen its 2023 Dynamite and Rampage viewership mostly down on the

12:27 same time in 2022.

12:29 The same pattern can be seen in WWE's house show ticket sales, which are events that aren't

12:35 broadcast on TV.

12:36 The Hollywood Reporter writes WWE has set all-time attendance figures in 57 cities across

12:41 the world in the first half of 2023.

12:45 This is an incredible turnaround from WWE's spiralling house show business in 2019, and

12:50 its total shutdown in the pandemic.

12:52 Roman Reigns has only wrestled on four of these live events this year, so his lack of

12:57 appearances don't appear to be a negative factor.

13:00 Yes, a portion of fans, many of them you and I, have grown bored of Reigns never being

13:04 around.

13:05 And when he is, it's the same repetitive, uncreative match plus interference finish

13:10 we've had for several years.

13:11 But maybe what works for a wrestling hot period for mainstream casual fans is star power.

13:18 Which Roman has more of than anyone else currently active.

13:22 And not overexposing that star power is a key to preserving it.

13:26 So expect WWE to keep riding Roman's rising tide.

13:30 Paul Heyman said after WrestleMania 39 that we're only in the bottom of the third inning.

13:35 That makes it near a nine year long story.

13:38 Start mentally preparing yourself for Cody not winning at WrestleMania 40 either.

13:43 But what do you think?

13:44 Is Roman Reigns' title reign actually bad for WWE?

13:47 Tell me!

13:48 Of course it is!

13:49 I can't take Jimmy interfering anymore, Oli!

13:51 I can't do it!

13:53 In the comments down below.

13:54 And also let me know what you think about this more deep dive into a wrestling news

13:57 story format too.

13:58 As I tried out something a little different today.

14:00 If you liked it, share it around.

14:02 Roman's done all bad, though.

14:03 He's had some great rivalries.

14:05 Go watch our countdown of 10 of the best ones on partsFUNknown.

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