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00:00:00 All right, we're back.

00:00:01 Another season, pro football, football show.

00:00:05 Chevy Silverado, Chicago.

00:00:07 Couldn't be more excited to be back.

00:00:09 - Yeah, Will, how are you feeling?

00:00:10 - Boys, girl, this season is going to be awesome.

00:00:15 But who is this jabroni?

00:00:17 That's the mystery guest.

00:00:19 Different host every single week.

00:00:21 I love that idea.

00:00:23 Let's go!

00:00:23 (upbeat music)

00:00:27 (upbeat music)

00:00:29 - Welcome to the Pro Football, Football Show

00:00:41 presented by the Chevy Silverado.

00:00:42 Week 10 of the NFL.

00:00:44 We are officially in the new Chicago offices.

00:00:47 Dan, everything about this place is unbelievable.

00:00:50 This is incredible.

00:00:51 - It's a dream come true.

00:00:53 Happy you guys are here.

00:00:55 Yeah, it's a dream come true.

00:00:56 It's like going to recess every single day.

00:00:58 - I mean, the way that the boys came in today,

00:01:01 super early, shooting free throws.

00:01:03 You've already been in the golf simulator.

00:01:04 Like, I mean, it's truly like just the boys club,

00:01:07 which is amazing.

00:01:08 - Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

00:01:09 And I've realized I need to work on my shot and my swing.

00:01:11 So I'm in the perfect place to do that.

00:01:12 - Yeah.

00:01:13 - It's a fantasy factory.

00:01:15 - It really is.

00:01:16 That's a perfect way to put it.

00:01:17 - And we hired a great golf throw.

00:01:18 - Yeah.

00:01:19 - Yeah.

00:01:20 - I did hear-

00:01:21 - Shout out to boy Jerry.

00:01:21 - Yeah, when I walked over-

00:01:22 - He's running a tight ship.

00:01:23 - When I walked over before the show

00:01:25 and Taylor was taking swings and Jerry was like,

00:01:27 "Nope, that wasn't it."

00:01:27 Wasn't even looking up from his phone.

00:01:29 He could just tell by the sound

00:01:30 of the way that you were hitting the ball, it wasn't it.

00:01:32 - That's the guy you need.

00:01:33 - It is.

00:01:33 - I left an empty cup there and he checked me.

00:01:35 He's like, "Hey, you need to put that in the trash."

00:01:36 - Yeah, no, he's got the heat.

00:01:37 - We run things different around here.

00:01:39 - Unless you want to-

00:01:39 - Tight ship.

00:01:40 - Tight ship.

00:01:41 - As the owner of the golf course,

00:01:42 I told Jerry if it's not kept clean,

00:01:44 then I'm gonna have to hire the, fire the golf pro.

00:01:46 So he knows.

00:01:48 - He's ready for it.

00:01:48 Right when he was first swinging on it last week,

00:01:50 he was like, "I need to be the golf pro.

00:01:52 "I need to talk with Dan.

00:01:52 "We need to have a conversation."

00:01:54 - All jokes aside, this place is unbelievable.

00:01:56 But Dan, I have to know,

00:01:57 how long is it until you have a big cap pile somewhere?

00:01:59 - Oh, well, if you notice, if you walk around the office,

00:02:02 I don't think this made it into the intro video.

00:02:05 My pile is actually decorations for a lot of the office.

00:02:09 There's a wall that has probably a hundred hats on it.

00:02:12 Those are all just from my pile.

00:02:13 There's some random clothes, jerseys, everything.

00:02:16 So yeah, we just basically took my pile

00:02:19 and decorated the whole office with it.

00:02:20 - But will you start a new pile?

00:02:22 - I'm gonna try not to.

00:02:23 I've told Spider to help me stay on top of it, but you know.

00:02:26 - Try.

00:02:27 - Yeah, best of plans. - You just wanna

00:02:28 keep this place clean.

00:02:29 - What is it, the best of plans of mice and men

00:02:30 often go astray?

00:02:31 Look at that, I'm already firing.

00:02:33 - You are.

00:02:34 - You guys don't even know what that is.

00:02:35 - No, I didn't. - That's a book.

00:02:36 I just quoted a book.

00:02:38 - A book that we are firing at all cylinders.

00:02:40 Everybody's been arguing this morning.

00:02:41 I know we had to remind ourselves,

00:02:43 especially me and Will, that it is pro football.

00:02:44 We've been arguing about college football,

00:02:45 but this is the NFL show, Taylor,

00:02:47 and I hate to bring this shit up for you.

00:02:49 The last time you were here, you went two and 10.

00:02:50 - Yeah, that was hard.

00:02:52 And if you look back-- - I'm sorry.

00:02:54 I'm sorry. - If you look back

00:02:54 at the intro of the last show,

00:02:56 I was talking pretty confidently

00:02:58 about how I've been the best guest and all that.

00:03:00 So the only way to have a comeback game

00:03:02 is to have a game like you did in previous,

00:03:04 last time I was here.

00:03:05 So all I gotta do is show up this time and come correct,

00:03:09 which I believe I have today.

00:03:10 - Yeah, the guests have been great.

00:03:12 I do, every time Tom puts this on the sheet,

00:03:14 it's a previous appearance was two and 10,

00:03:16 and I really didn't wanna have to do that to you

00:03:18 because I know you are wearing your Michigan shirt.

00:03:20 It's tough right now for the Michigan fans out there.

00:03:23 - I wouldn't say that.

00:03:23 I wouldn't say that.

00:03:24 - Well, it is-- - We're exactly

00:03:25 where we need to be right now.

00:03:26 - Didn't cover against Purdue.

00:03:28 - Pro football show, pro football show.

00:03:30 - And we'll talk about that later.

00:03:31 - Yes. - But I will say,

00:03:32 I've learned my lesson.

00:03:34 I've come back here humble,

00:03:36 and I'm ready to have a bounce back game.

00:03:37 - The notes. - I've got notes.

00:03:38 - I know the notes. - I've got stats.

00:03:40 - You have-- - I can already see.

00:03:41 I'm looking at your stats. - Don't look at my stats.

00:03:43 - I'm not gonna reveal any of his stats,

00:03:45 but he's already 0-1 on the week.

00:03:48 - Okay. - I've already seen it.

00:03:49 - Really? - So you've seen it

00:03:50 for the first game of the week?

00:03:52 - Yeah, he's already 0-1.

00:03:53 - So let's just go right into it then.

00:03:54 - First game of the week?

00:03:55 - Yeah, first game of the week.

00:03:55 He's already 0-1. - I can't even.

00:03:56 - The storyline games of the week

00:03:57 presented by the Chevy Silverado.

00:03:59 It is the Browns and the Ravens.

00:04:00 The Ravens favored by six.

00:04:03 What's the incorrect stat over here?

00:04:04 - No, it's not an incorrect stat.

00:04:06 He's gonna pick the Browns.

00:04:07 He's wrong.

00:04:07 (laughing)

00:04:08 - Okay. - But let's hear it.

00:04:10 - Ravens are seven and three in their last 10,

00:04:12 but they're four and six against the spread

00:04:13 against the Browns.

00:04:14 I think that, I think the Browns are coming along.

00:04:17 I think Deshaun Watson played a good game last week.

00:04:19 It was obviously against the Abysmal Cardinals,

00:04:21 but he sets out the fourth quarter,

00:04:23 throws for a couple touchdowns, looks good.

00:04:25 They move the ball up and down the field.

00:04:27 I think the Ravens win this game,

00:04:28 but I think the Browns cover plus six.

00:04:31 - Okay, so last week, a little bit deceiving

00:04:34 'cause the Cardinals are the worst team in the NFL.

00:04:36 - That's not true.

00:04:37 There's two giants.

00:04:38 There's two teams playing tonight as well.

00:04:40 - Maybe the Tommy DeVito Giants,

00:04:42 the Bears have two wins.

00:04:43 Cardinals have one.

00:04:44 - That would be able to, you would be able to argue.

00:04:45 Panthers and Bears are also in that conversation.

00:04:47 - So the Cardinals are very, very bad.

00:04:49 Clayton Toon was making his first start.

00:04:51 He was so overwhelmed against that Browns defense.

00:04:54 The thing that makes me scared about the Browns

00:04:56 on their offensive side,

00:04:58 Omari Cooper's the only guy

00:04:59 that feels like he's getting open routinely.

00:05:02 The Ravens can take someone away.

00:05:03 The Ravens defense has been playing lights out

00:05:05 out of this world.

00:05:07 The other thing is they now,

00:05:09 and I actually wanted to ask you this,

00:05:11 they now have lost both tackles.

00:05:13 So Jedrick Wills, who Browns fans don't love,

00:05:17 but he is your starting,

00:05:18 Zouppi just went like this.

00:05:20 He's a Browns fan.

00:05:21 - He's talented, but lazy.

00:05:22 - But okay, so it doesn't matter, right?

00:05:25 If you don't like him, that's fine.

00:05:26 But now you have depth issues.

00:05:28 And now people are gonna say,

00:05:29 "Hey, Big Cat, how are you,

00:05:31 how do you find all this time?

00:05:32 You're doing the invitational and doing all this stuff.

00:05:34 You got three kids.

00:05:35 You're reading Browns beat reporter reports."

00:05:38 And yes, I am.

00:05:40 The Browns are talking about taking

00:05:42 their current left tackle, DeJuan Jones,

00:05:45 who's actually been playing well.

00:05:46 He came in for Jack Conklin,

00:05:47 Jack Conklin went out in the first game of the season.

00:05:50 Rookie, playing well.

00:05:51 They're thinking about putting him on the right,

00:05:53 and then James Hudson on the left,

00:05:55 who is now starting his first game this season

00:05:57 because Jedrick Wills is out.

00:05:59 That is an offensive lineman.

00:06:01 You can't switch up positions like that.

00:06:02 - It depends on the individual.

00:06:03 Some guys can do multiple things.

00:06:05 - Okay.

00:06:06 - The more you can do, the less you get paid.

00:06:08 That's what they say in the league.

00:06:09 - Yeah.

00:06:10 - So, there's a bunch of guys that are rotational cats.

00:06:12 You can do a left tackle, right tackle.

00:06:13 Me, personally, I was a one-trick pony.

00:06:14 - Right.

00:06:15 - I could literally do one position, and that is it.

00:06:17 - Who's the guy, who's their guard who's really good?

00:06:19 - Wyatt Teller.

00:06:20 - Wyatt Teller said this, again,

00:06:22 I'm reading the beat reporters.

00:06:23 Wyatt Teller had an interview,

00:06:25 'cause Kevin Sifanski's like, "Yeah, we don't know.

00:06:27 We're gonna switch it up."

00:06:28 Wyatt Teller's like, "It's not that easy.

00:06:29 You can't just say we're gonna switch up positions here."

00:06:32 And the fact that they don't even know it,

00:06:33 we're taping this on Thursday,

00:06:35 that also has to hurt where the guy's like,

00:06:37 "I don't know what I'm playing yet," right?

00:06:39 - It does if, Wyatt Teller's the starting right guard.

00:06:42 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, he's--

00:06:43 - He's cemented.

00:06:44 - He was just talking on behalf of the left tackle,

00:06:46 right tackle switch up, that that's not an easy thing

00:06:49 that you can just snap your finger and say,

00:06:51 "Yeah, you go play right, you go play left."

00:06:52 - It's not, but if you're not a starting five guy

00:06:55 in the offensive line, in your backup role,

00:06:57 you've gotta know both sides.

00:06:59 - Right.

00:07:00 - And mostly every position except for--

00:07:00 - Okay, okay, so--

00:07:01 - Which I feel more comfortable about that.

00:07:04 One thing, I know you're talking about the offense a lot.

00:07:05 - Yeah.

00:07:06 - And the defense supports, the defense aside.

00:07:08 - Listen, the Browns defense has been phenomenal.

00:07:10 I'm worried though, what I saw against the Cardinals,

00:07:13 the Browns didn't run the ball that great.

00:07:15 They were 2.8 yards per carry.

00:07:16 I feel like this depth thing, so Jedrick Wills aside,

00:07:20 when you start having to get into your backup

00:07:23 and backup, backup on the offensive line,

00:07:26 there definitely is gonna be a drop off at some point.

00:07:28 The Ravens defense is phenomenal.

00:07:29 They just rotate guys in,

00:07:31 they get pressure on the quarterback.

00:07:34 I don't think Deshaun's gonna have an easy day.

00:07:35 - I have the Ravens.

00:07:36 - Where do you stand, Will?

00:07:38 - You could look at this as two division games in five days,

00:07:41 potential trap game, should we say?

00:07:44 - Oh.

00:07:44 - Potential?

00:07:45 - Keep talking, Will.

00:07:46 - Cleveland, look, Cleveland got whooped the first time,

00:07:47 but they had Dorian, was it Dorian Thompson-Robinson

00:07:50 as the quarterback? - Yes, he's here.

00:07:51 - Three interceptions.

00:07:52 Jim Schwartz, I think the Browns can keep it close.

00:07:56 You talk about the depth that's used on the O-line,

00:07:58 but I believe in Coach Bill Callahan.

00:08:01 I think he's a next man up mentality type cat.

00:08:03 He's gonna have those guys, you know,

00:08:05 brainwashed as much as they can be,

00:08:07 but I believe in Coach Callahan.

00:08:09 They've struggled in the run game.

00:08:10 Deshaun Watson is playing better,

00:08:12 and he's way better than Dorian Thompson-Robinson.

00:08:14 - Callahan's sitting in the meeting right now,

00:08:15 a team meeting, going, "No one believed in you guys.

00:08:17 "No one wanted you guys.

00:08:18 "This is your opportunity to make money."

00:08:21 Big Cat doesn't believe in you guys.

00:08:22 - There's a picture of Dan.

00:08:23 - Yes.

00:08:24 - Bill Callahan's going, "Ugh, can't play for me.

00:08:27 "We gotta move you."

00:08:28 - Can trap games exist in the division?

00:08:30 - Yeah, absolutely. - Are you sure?

00:08:31 Because, I mean, look, the AFC North's

00:08:32 the best division in football right now.

00:08:34 - All four teams. - And you said that

00:08:35 at the beginning of the year,

00:08:36 "Do you wanna give me your flowers before?"

00:08:37 - All four teams would be in the playoffs

00:08:38 if the playoffs started today,

00:08:40 and I think the Browns, like, the Ravens,

00:08:42 no, they can't drop this to the Browns.

00:08:44 They have to stay ahead of everyone.

00:08:46 Like, they're fighting for the one seed now.

00:08:48 They're talking Super Bowl now.

00:08:50 I just think the way the Ravens are playing,

00:08:51 and they're running back Keaton Mitchell,

00:08:53 who, I think it was his first game,

00:08:56 or first real action last weekend, Seahawks.

00:08:58 Perfect compliment to what they have with Gus Edwards,

00:09:00 where you got a guy now who can make some home run plays,

00:09:03 what they probably have been missing the run game.

00:09:05 I just think the Ravens are playing at an unbelievable level.

00:09:08 - Lamar Jackson MVP?

00:09:09 - Lamar Jackson MVP.

00:09:11 His stats haven't been, like, insanely good.

00:09:14 - Lamar MVP? - Yeah.

00:09:15 - He's having a good year, but no.

00:09:18 - Okay.

00:09:19 The Ravens are just playing, like,

00:09:21 they are just such a good defensive team.

00:09:23 Their offense is starting to click under Todd Monken.

00:09:26 They have all these weapons.

00:09:28 Zay Flowers is awesome.

00:09:30 Awesome. - He's nasty.

00:09:31 - So, yeah, I think the Ravens just have too much.

00:09:34 - Jerry, how do you feel about this game?

00:09:35 - Yeah.

00:09:36 - Hey, it's a good thing for the Steelers, you know?

00:09:38 One of them's gonna lose.

00:09:39 So, you know, the Steelers haven't had help

00:09:41 in three weeks now.

00:09:43 You know, Steelers win games,

00:09:45 everybody else wins in the division,

00:09:46 which is how it's been going.

00:09:47 So, somebody's gotta lose, so it's good for the Steelers,

00:09:49 because we got the Packers this week,

00:09:51 so that'll be a beat down.

00:09:53 - Nope.

00:09:53 - Taylor, I know we're writing Browns some decent news.

00:09:56 I don't know how much you can put into this,

00:09:58 but they've split the last two years,

00:10:00 and Browns are 2-0 in the later games.

00:10:02 - Mm.

00:10:03 - Okay. - So you're taking Browns.

00:10:04 - I'm taking Browns to cover.

00:10:06 - And they need to look at the film

00:10:07 and see how bad they did last time.

00:10:08 They play them and say, "This is what we gotta work on."

00:10:09 - Jim Schwartz is in there challenging that, yeah.

00:10:11 - Exactly, and go back to 2019.

00:10:13 Divisional game, Titans versus Ravens.

00:10:15 - Go back to 2019.

00:10:16 - What about it?

00:10:17 - Jim Schwartz.

00:10:18 - Yeah?

00:10:19 - He was doing some consulting work for the Titans.

00:10:21 - Oh.

00:10:22 - And we handled Lamar Jackson.

00:10:23 - Okay. - I'm just saying.

00:10:24 - But this is a different Lamar Jackson.

00:10:26 - Is it? - Yeah.

00:10:27 - He won the MVP that year.

00:10:28 - Right, but I--

00:10:29 - Well, the difference there is they had a bye week before,

00:10:31 and remember, on "Slips and Picks," I was like,

00:10:33 "The only thing that kinda scares me about the Ravens

00:10:34 is when they are a momentum team,

00:10:36 they are very hard to start."

00:10:37 - And the Ravens-- - True.

00:10:38 - That year-- - Bye week helped.

00:10:40 - I was calling fraudulent all year.

00:10:41 Ravens fans were mad at me all year

00:10:43 because I thought that it was a situation

00:10:45 where if you can keep Lamar Jackson in the pocket,

00:10:47 he's not able to make those throws.

00:10:49 He wasn't there yet.

00:10:50 Now they have all the weapons.

00:10:53 Now they actually can throw the ball.

00:10:54 Now they can beat you multiple ways

00:10:56 that they haven't always been able to do

00:10:58 with Lamar Jackson.

00:10:58 That's been the story for his entire career.

00:11:00 Get him weapons, get him weapons.

00:11:02 Now he's got the weapons.

00:11:03 - Lamar Jackson's been a topic on this show

00:11:05 since the creation of this show.

00:11:07 So every year it's a different evolution of it,

00:11:09 but now that we have Jerry, I mean, Jerry,

00:11:11 do you think Lamar Jackson's gonna win the MVP?

00:11:12 I know you said he's played pretty good, but--

00:11:14 - I'll tell you this, he's not gonna go

00:11:15 to the AFC Championship game, I know that.

00:11:18 - There you go. - Okay.

00:11:18 - Have to have Jerry win. - His last bad game

00:11:21 was probably the Steelers, yeah?

00:11:22 - Yeah, I mean, I'd take Burrow over him

00:11:24 in the playoffs in a heartbeat.

00:11:25 - Well, yeah. - Well, yeah.

00:11:26 - But Burrow, I would take probably number two

00:11:29 behind Mahomes. - Yeah.

00:11:30 - So it's not like a diss.

00:11:32 - No, I mean, he's just not on their level.

00:11:35 - Okay. - That's what I'm saying.

00:11:37 - Jerry, the voice of reason on Lamar Jackson.

00:11:39 - There's levels, right?

00:11:39 There's Pat Mahomes, just below him is Burrow.

00:11:42 - Yeah.

00:11:43 - Just below that is probably, I'd say,

00:11:45 Josh Allen, Justin Herbert.

00:11:48 Actually, I put Jalen Hurts in that category with Burrow.

00:11:50 - Yeah. - But then after that,

00:11:51 it's a big drop-off.

00:11:52 You got Kenny Pickett, then you got Lamar.

00:11:54 - There it is.

00:11:55 - That's where it gets out of control.

00:11:56 - I knew, I knew that if I just--

00:11:57 - Yeah, that's when the spiraling happens.

00:11:58 - Yeah, I knew that if we went to him for a second,

00:12:00 that spiral would happen.

00:12:01 Let's go to the 49ers at the Jags.

00:12:03 The 49ers favored by three.

00:12:04 Both teams coming off of a bye.

00:12:05 Dan, where do you stand on Brock Purdy and the 49ers?

00:12:08 - I think they are gonna get right this week.

00:12:11 Debo Samuel is back.

00:12:13 He was full practice.

00:12:14 Trent Williams, weird.

00:12:16 Kyle Shanahan had a press conference where he was like,

00:12:19 he's working on more than just his ankle,

00:12:21 which makes me a little concerned.

00:12:22 So he might not be back.

00:12:24 - Trent's just not wanting to get on the practice field.

00:12:26 Trust me, my man will be out there.

00:12:27 - Okay, all right, okay.

00:12:28 - He has a low ankle sprain, too.

00:12:29 - Yeah, that's--

00:12:30 - Trent does his thing.

00:12:31 He'll be ready.

00:12:32 He's like Joe Thomas.

00:12:33 You wouldn't play throughout the week,

00:12:35 the Ferrari comes out on Sunday.

00:12:36 - Hey, we'll see you Sunday.

00:12:37 - Yeah.

00:12:37 - I do, it's weird because the Niners,

00:12:40 the way they're talked about

00:12:41 and the way they started the season,

00:12:42 it was like, who can beat this team?

00:12:43 They have so many studs.

00:12:45 And then Trent Williams and Debo go down.

00:12:48 And I know this is crazy to say,

00:12:50 but when you have guys like that,

00:12:52 and it's all about depth in the NFL,

00:12:54 and can you bring guys in?

00:12:55 The drop off is so severe

00:12:57 when you have Trent Williams and Debo Samuel.

00:12:59 It doesn't matter who's coming in for them.

00:13:00 It's just gonna be different

00:13:01 'cause those guys are so good.

00:13:03 I think the Niners,

00:13:04 bye week came at a perfect time.

00:13:06 Chase Young being added.

00:13:07 I think they're switching some stuff up on defense.

00:13:10 So I think you're gonna get the best effort from the Niners.

00:13:12 And the Jags are good.

00:13:13 But I don't really,

00:13:14 they beat the Falcons.

00:13:17 They beat the Bills in that second game in London

00:13:20 where they got to stay.

00:13:21 They beat the Saints.

00:13:23 - I mean, momentum, five game win streak right now.

00:13:25 - Yeah, no, they are good.

00:13:26 But I think that the time we saw the Jags look bad this year

00:13:30 was against the Chiefs.

00:13:32 I think the Niners are closer to the Chiefs

00:13:33 than they are to the Falcons.

00:13:36 - By the way, ever since you brought that theory out

00:13:38 a few weeks ago, I use it as much as I can.

00:13:40 - What?

00:13:41 - When teams are kind of 500,

00:13:42 I'm like, all right, let's group these up.

00:13:43 - Yeah, right.

00:13:44 - Who's closer to who.

00:13:45 - Because you see four wins and you're like,

00:13:46 okay, that's awesome.

00:13:48 But then you think, okay,

00:13:49 they beat some teams that they should have beat.

00:13:51 Because I think the Jags are a very good team.

00:13:53 I just don't think they're in that top echelon

00:13:56 that the Niners should be in if they can fix some things.

00:13:58 - Will, what do you think?

00:13:59 - I don't think the drop-off is as bad as it seems.

00:14:02 Like, dropping three, like when you talk about

00:14:04 losing Debo and Trent Williams,

00:14:05 CMC was also banged up.

00:14:07 Like, when you look at his first five games,

00:14:09 he was touching the ball minimum 22 times a game.

00:14:13 His last three, he's touched like 14, 12, 15.

00:14:15 He hasn't got the ball much.

00:14:16 And all the creativity in that offense

00:14:18 kind of runs through a healthy Christian McCaffrey.

00:14:20 Debo, yes, but CMC was also very,

00:14:24 he was unhealthy in the last few games.

00:14:26 And then piggybacking off of Chase Young being added,

00:14:30 it helps Nick Bosa because I think he's talked about it,

00:14:33 or I saw somebody talking about it, which is true.

00:14:35 You now don't have to blitz as much more,

00:14:37 which is choreographed.

00:14:39 You kind of know what you're doing.

00:14:40 You can only imitate so much,

00:14:41 but the rotation of the safeties and everything else

00:14:43 is gonna tell a quarterback

00:14:44 what's happening before the snap.

00:14:46 Now you get to pin your ears back a little bit more,

00:14:48 add an extra guy in coverage,

00:14:49 which is a past defense who has struggled.

00:14:51 So I do, to your point, think they're gonna get better.

00:14:53 - And Chase Young playing opposite of Nick Bosa,

00:14:56 like that's just gonna make both of them better, right?

00:14:58 - Right.

00:14:59 - 'Cause you can't, there's only so many guys that can block

00:15:02 and so I think both of them are gonna see like a bump up

00:15:05 and it's gonna be very hard to pass protect

00:15:08 against this Niners defensive line, OH.

00:15:10 - So Will, are you taking the 49ers?

00:15:12 - Yeah, I'm rocking Niners.

00:15:13 - Yeah, I'm gonna go 49ers too.

00:15:14 I think the Chase Young thing is really interesting

00:15:16 'cause Nick Bosa, now the Devil team's gonna go away.

00:15:19 The ultimate chips, you're gonna get guys out

00:15:20 a little bit later in pass plays

00:15:22 to take care of those two guys on the edge.

00:15:24 And with Debo coming back, little stat,

00:15:26 against the spread, Debo Samuel plays a full game,

00:15:29 they're four and one.

00:15:29 So I like the 49ers here. - That's a good stat.

00:15:33 - And I think they start right now.

00:15:35 There's reports coming out that Brock Purdy

00:15:36 is really not the guy everyone thinks he is, just reports.

00:15:39 But I think they win this game.

00:15:41 I think they win this game by more than three.

00:15:43 I'm just telling you what I've heard.

00:15:45 - But being a believer in Brock Purdy, there's optimism.

00:15:49 I mean, last week they had quarterback question marks

00:15:51 going into the bye week.

00:15:51 What'd they do after the bye week?

00:15:52 Nine and O.

00:15:53 - I also think Brock Purdy, he's made a couple bad throws,

00:15:57 but I don't think he was the reason

00:15:58 why they've been struggling.

00:15:59 I think that their defense has gotten, I agree, gashed.

00:16:02 - Who'd they play before their bye?

00:16:04 - They played the Bengals.

00:16:06 - In the last two minute, there were multiple throws

00:16:09 that he could have checked it down wide open

00:16:11 in the middle of the field with plenty of time on the clock

00:16:13 where they could have got those first downs

00:16:14 and everybody ends up throwing it into the safety.

00:16:16 - Right, and it-- - Do you think Brock's the guy?

00:16:18 Do I think Brock's the guy?

00:16:18 - I think when he has these aliens around him,

00:16:20 I think anybody can be the guy.

00:16:21 - And there is an argument to be said,

00:16:23 and I actually kind of believe in it,

00:16:24 the Niners are built to play from ahead,

00:16:26 and you've seen it where they get a 10 point deficit,

00:16:29 it's harder for them to come back.

00:16:31 So I think you're gonna get best effort from the Niners,

00:16:34 and they're gonna fix some things.

00:16:35 I like them a lot.

00:16:36 - Let's go to the game of the week

00:16:37 presented by the Chevy Silverado.

00:16:39 It is the Lions at the Chargers.

00:16:41 Before we get into the game,

00:16:42 let's go to Lucas Edits presented by Jersey Jerry.

00:16:45 - All right, Lucas Edits presented by Jersey Jerry.

00:16:47 Week 10, Lucas, you gotta hit the space button.

00:16:49 (beep)

00:16:50 - No, no, sorry.

00:16:51 - Pro football football show,

00:16:52 game of the week presented by Chevy.

00:16:54 Chargers versus the Detroit Lions.

00:16:56 Golf back to pass, first quarter, a minute left.

00:16:58 It's picked off, no, it's not picked off!

00:17:00 It's a touchdown, Detroit Lions.

00:17:03 - You got sale?

00:17:03 - Chargers come running back down the field.

00:17:05 First and goal, it's no good.

00:17:07 Second and goal now.

00:17:08 Same exact play, it's no good again.

00:17:10 Third and goal coming.

00:17:12 Seven nothing, they're trailing.

00:17:13 Austin Eckler, out of the backfield,

00:17:15 power to the right, it's a touchdown.

00:17:17 Seven seven tie ball game.

00:17:19 Back to, no, Justin Herbert threw up interception!

00:17:22 He doesn't make mistakes.

00:17:23 He made a mistake there.

00:17:24 No, Herbert didn't throw the interception,

00:17:25 God threw the interception.

00:17:26 Seven seven, six seconds left.

00:17:28 Dicker back to kick.

00:17:30 Dicker, it's good, no, it's a doink!

00:17:32 No good, seven seven, fourth quarter.

00:17:34 Now this is turning into a field goal game,

00:17:37 and it's good.

00:17:38 10 to seven, Chargers lead.

00:17:40 Lions come back down.

00:17:42 Lions going for the tie here.

00:17:45 Fourth quarter, a minute 45 left,

00:17:47 and it's good, tie ball game.

00:17:49 Herbert back to pass.

00:17:50 Fourth quarter, a minute left, and it's good,

00:17:53 it's Mike Williams, it's a touchdown for Mike Williams!

00:17:55 Mike Williams, back from the dead!

00:17:58 Chargers 17, Detroit Lions 10.

00:18:01 That's the final score.

00:18:03 - I feel like the under always hits in these games.

00:18:05 - It is always a very low scoring game, always.

00:18:07 Dan, do you--

00:18:10 - Focus edits presented by Jersey's--

00:18:11 - I was talking over Jerry.

00:18:12 I feel bad, Jerry, I was just--

00:18:13 - No, no, no, no, you're good.

00:18:14 - Can I just, this is my third time on the show,

00:18:16 is this still on?

00:18:17 - No, it started again.

00:18:18 - Oh, it started again.

00:18:19 - Okay, yes.

00:18:20 - This is my third time on this show.

00:18:20 These have gotten better every single time.

00:18:22 - That's what I was gonna ask.

00:18:23 Dan, play-by-play, Jerry's getting better

00:18:25 every single week.

00:18:26 - Yeah, he's doing a good job.

00:18:27 And Lucas, shout out Lucas.

00:18:28 He doesn't really have much of a personality,

00:18:30 but he's good.

00:18:31 - He's a good guy.

00:18:32 - He doesn't have a personality?

00:18:33 - Well, he's just kinda--

00:18:34 - We got big things in the works.

00:18:35 - He's gonna find his way.

00:18:36 - We got big things in the works.

00:18:36 - He's kind of like a--

00:18:37 - We got big things in the works.

00:18:38 - You gotta play to his strengths.

00:18:39 - We're gonna get it out of him.

00:18:40 He's new.

00:18:41 We had him on the Yak.

00:18:43 He's a little, you know, we're gonna pull it out of him.

00:18:45 - Got some nerves.

00:18:45 - We're gonna pull it out of him.

00:18:46 - What are your big things in the works

00:18:47 to get his personality out?

00:18:48 - I mean, no, he got some extreme stuff set up.

00:18:50 - Look, I like him.

00:18:51 I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

00:18:52 - No, he's shy.

00:18:52 - He's an animal right now.

00:18:53 We're gonna slowly--

00:18:54 - He's like a little robot.

00:18:55 - Yeah, right.

00:18:56 Right, he is, exactly.

00:18:57 He's like a little R2-D2 that just follows Jerry around.

00:19:00 (laughing)

00:19:01 - He's gotten shit done.

00:19:03 He got a job because of it.

00:19:04 - No, yeah, he's very good.

00:19:05 I'm just saying, we're gonna pull

00:19:06 the personality out of him.

00:19:07 I'm gonna find it.

00:19:08 We're gonna dig deep.

00:19:09 We're gonna find it.

00:19:10 We're gonna pull it out.

00:19:10 - Between you and Jerry, I have no doubt

00:19:12 that's gonna happen.

00:19:12 What do you think's gonna happen in this game?

00:19:14 - Chargers have put together a couple wins back to back,

00:19:17 but the Lions are not the Bears.

00:19:20 They're not the Jets.

00:19:21 I think Goff is having a career year.

00:19:23 He's got Amin Rah, St. Brown.

00:19:24 Sam Laporte's a tight end.

00:19:26 I mean, Gibbs is kind of showing off his skill set.

00:19:28 He can beat you out of the backfield.

00:19:29 He can beat you.

00:19:30 He's averaging over five a carry.

00:19:31 And Montgomery might be coming back.

00:19:33 And the stress that puts on a defense,

00:19:35 on knowing, you know, should we cheat the run game here?

00:19:38 What, what, what?

00:19:38 - I'm trying to look.

00:19:39 - He was trying to deceive.

00:19:40 - Oh, okay, okay.

00:19:41 - I like what you're saying.

00:19:42 - Yeah, just keep talking.

00:19:43 - I also liked how you said Laporta.

00:19:44 - What is it?

00:19:45 - I think it's Laporta, but I liked it.

00:19:47 I said what's wrong the whole time.

00:19:48 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:49 - Put a little accent on it.

00:19:51 - I was doing, I called the basketball game last night.

00:19:53 For the first 10 minutes, I said the coach's name wrong.

00:19:55 And then the SID came over and was like,

00:19:57 hey, can you stop doing that?

00:19:58 - Yeah, yeah, we'll get that correct.

00:19:59 - As if you were doing it on purpose.

00:20:01 - But the versatility of the Lions offense,

00:20:03 it puts a lot of stress on you defensively

00:20:05 because you start to think, okay, can we win?

00:20:07 Do we need more coverage?

00:20:09 Like Amon Ross, St. Brown,

00:20:10 do you cheat the run game a little bit with a light box?

00:20:12 You can't necessarily do that,

00:20:13 especially if Montgomery's coming back.

00:20:15 You know, are you blitzing them?

00:20:16 Are you pressuring them?

00:20:16 Golf is good enough to understand pressure

00:20:18 and still beat you when you're getting pressured.

00:20:20 So it kind of puts a lot of stress on the defense.

00:20:22 I love the Lions in this game.

00:20:24 I kind of see it as the lock of the week.

00:20:26 - Ooh.

00:20:27 - Will Compton lock of the week.

00:20:28 - I see it as a lock of the week.

00:20:29 I think it's good that they have two wins in a row,

00:20:31 but again, Bears, Jets, this is not the Bears or the Jets.

00:20:34 - I'm gonna go to Taylor,

00:20:35 who's been very closely guarding his notebook

00:20:37 for this segment.

00:20:38 - Dan saw my first couple notes

00:20:39 and I think he was impressed.

00:20:40 So he started to look over a little bit.

00:20:43 Will, you sized it up great.

00:20:44 That was phenomenal.

00:20:45 You really broke the whole thing down.

00:20:46 The only thing I can say is Lions.

00:20:48 - Yeah, I was hoping you had chargers.

00:20:51 - I was ready for a stat.

00:20:52 - I disagree, but I'm on the Lions as well.

00:20:54 Lions have gotten healthy.

00:20:55 Frank Ragnald back, Jonah Jackson back.

00:20:57 Their offensive line should be a strength again.

00:21:00 I also think the chargers,

00:21:02 like who scares you on their offense

00:21:04 now that Josh Palmer is also out?

00:21:06 Who scares you?

00:21:07 - I mean, Keenan Allen.

00:21:08 - Right.

00:21:10 You can guard against one guy.

00:21:11 - Austin Eckler.

00:21:12 - Okay.

00:21:13 That's it.

00:21:15 - Yeah.

00:21:16 - Like there's no way.

00:21:16 - No, you're right.

00:21:17 - When you lose Mike Williams and then Josh Palmer,

00:21:19 like the chargers don't,

00:21:21 I just think that the Lions,

00:21:22 their defense is a little bit soft, a little fraudulent,

00:21:26 but this is a game where,

00:21:27 all right, let's take away Austin Eckler.

00:21:29 And then, you know, Keenan Allen,

00:21:31 is he gonna put up 400 yards?

00:21:33 I don't know.

00:21:34 - Make Keenan Allen beat him.

00:21:34 - Right, exactly.

00:21:35 So I just don't, I don't think that they have,

00:21:38 I think they're going on reputation a little bit

00:21:40 when it comes to their offense.

00:21:41 I don't think they have the guys that they've always had

00:21:44 that are the difference makers.

00:21:45 Now they've had a couple injuries

00:21:46 to the wide receiver position.

00:21:47 - Chargers have been disappointing this year.

00:21:48 - Yeah, I mean, even the--

00:21:49 - They've been a disappointing team.

00:21:50 - Even the game against the Jets,

00:21:52 the Jets dominated them in terms of defense.

00:21:55 The Chargers didn't even get 200 yards.

00:21:57 - They had that special teams touch on early in Zach.

00:21:59 I mean, they can't play from behind at all.

00:22:01 - Right, and so I walked away from that game being like,

00:22:04 if the Jets had even like a C at quarterback,

00:22:07 they win that game.

00:22:08 So yeah, I think the Lions,

00:22:10 they got healthy at the right time.

00:22:12 I think they're gonna--

00:22:13 - And your guy, Dan Campbell.

00:22:14 - Yeah, Alpha Pi.

00:22:15 - That little snippet he had

00:22:17 where he's doing that pregame sit down

00:22:19 and he starts crying thinking about the guys--

00:22:21 - Football guy.

00:22:22 - Thinking about the guys who helped build the culture

00:22:23 before--

00:22:24 - He's a crier, I love it.

00:22:25 - And the resources he has now,

00:22:26 it's just, how can you not root for--

00:22:28 - If you got a guy referencing ankle biter

00:22:31 and then also crying in another video,

00:22:33 that is a combination you need.

00:22:34 That's the perfect yin and yang for a coach.

00:22:36 - Love that emotion.

00:22:37 Speaking of the Jets, Dan,

00:22:39 your gotta have a pick of the week is the Jets

00:22:41 and the Raiders, who has to have this one?

00:22:43 - The Jets have to have it.

00:22:44 The Jets have to win this game.

00:22:46 And I have a question for my two friends here.

00:22:49 Antonio Pierce, obviously I'm a big believer

00:22:52 in betting the fired dickhead coach,

00:22:56 the bounce back for the team.

00:22:57 You saw it, the Raiders came out with their hair on fire,

00:22:59 smoking cigars after the game.

00:23:01 It looks like the vibe is completely different

00:23:03 in that locker room.

00:23:05 My question to you guys,

00:23:06 and I don't know, have you guys had that coach fired

00:23:09 in the middle of the season?

00:23:10 - Yeah, I just came when--

00:23:12 - Okay, but you have.

00:23:13 - Yes.

00:23:14 - So, I think when you look at it,

00:23:17 Antonio Pierce, great motivator,

00:23:20 gets the guys fired up.

00:23:23 Will he have the acumen in terms of X's and O's

00:23:25 to beat this Jets defense?

00:23:27 I don't know if that's a yes.

00:23:29 I feel like that was a perfect spot

00:23:31 for the Raiders last week.

00:23:32 Tommy DeVito comes in the game.

00:23:34 They can't do anything.

00:23:35 Raiders get the nice win.

00:23:37 I think it was a little inflated.

00:23:38 And I think the Jets defense is gonna do a good job

00:23:41 and they're gonna win this game

00:23:42 'cause they have to have it.

00:23:44 - From my experience, 2015, we get donkeyed by the Texans.

00:23:47 Ken Wisenhunt gets fired.

00:23:49 The next week we play the Saints in New Orleans.

00:23:52 We go to overtime, we end up beating them.

00:23:54 Vibes are higher than ever.

00:23:55 - Right.

00:23:56 - We didn't win one game the rest of the year.

00:23:57 - Right.

00:23:58 - It was tough.

00:23:59 - 'Cause you get that initial bump

00:24:00 where everyone's like, let's go, let's rally,

00:24:02 let's rally the locker room.

00:24:04 And then you get to the point where you're like,

00:24:06 okay, this guy is a great motivator,

00:24:08 but he's gotta also put us in a good place to win.

00:24:10 - Hang on now, besides you, we got--

00:24:12 - Yeah, besides you.

00:24:13 - There's different sample sizes.

00:24:14 There's different sample sizes.

00:24:15 - This is Cocho.

00:24:16 That was my big thing with Cocho.

00:24:17 He took over USC and LSU.

00:24:20 He was the greatest interim coach

00:24:22 'cause he kept the guys fired up.

00:24:23 - But when we had Clinton Portis on last week,

00:24:25 he kinda compared this whole situation with the Raiders

00:24:27 to Jeff Saturday too last year.

00:24:29 - Right.

00:24:30 - That it was like, once you give a football guy

00:24:31 an opportunity, he's gonna get the locker room together.

00:24:34 That doesn't mean he's gonna be a great head coach

00:24:35 in the NFL.

00:24:36 - Right, Jeff Saturday won his first game,

00:24:37 didn't win again.

00:24:39 - But I think the difference is I feel like

00:24:42 there's so much more relief when McDaniel's fired.

00:24:44 - Oh yeah, he's the worst guy ever.

00:24:46 - Different play caller.

00:24:47 Josh Jacobs is running angry, but you are right.

00:24:49 I think if anything, you look at the under.

00:24:51 - He's the worst guy ever.

00:24:52 He is the worst guy ever.

00:24:53 - You look at the under a little bit on this game,

00:24:54 but 'cause the Jets defense is for real.

00:24:57 I just don't think offensively they can

00:24:59 move the ball that well, man.

00:25:01 If they get behind at all, I think it could be tough for 'em

00:25:03 'cause I just don't think Zach Wilson has that in him.

00:25:06 Victory cigars after a game.

00:25:08 The vibe in that building when you're feeling really good

00:25:10 and you're getting frisky,

00:25:12 I know that that team is feeling good.

00:25:14 I mean, with Devontae Adams, four catches for 34 yards,

00:25:17 you see him in there,

00:25:19 the optimism he has in the locker room after a game.

00:25:20 - Standing next to the head coach.

00:25:21 - Standing next to the head coach.

00:25:22 - Fired up.

00:25:24 - Victory cigars, no offense to Tommy DeVito,

00:25:25 but that's gotta be the lowest barrier

00:25:28 for victory cigars to beat Tommy DeVito.

00:25:31 - That's how you know the energy.

00:25:32 - Victory cigars is like winning a championship

00:25:34 Alabama, Tennessee, Tommy DeVito.

00:25:36 - Changing of a guard, culture change.

00:25:39 - That was more of our head coach got fired.

00:25:42 We are so happy.

00:25:43 - He didn't judge, but I think it speaks more

00:25:46 to the transition that just took place, which is wild,

00:25:49 but it's, the boys are feeling good.

00:25:51 - That's a Super Bowl for the culture.

00:25:52 - I made a bet on Sunday, Jerry.

00:25:54 - We got this guy fucking out.

00:25:56 - Tommy DeVito came in the game in the first quarter

00:25:58 and I live bet the Giants under 12 and a half,

00:26:00 which is like one bad play and you're screwed.

00:26:03 And I never had to sweat.

00:26:04 They're doing victory cigars for Tommy DeVito.

00:26:07 - No disrespect, it could have been like Jerry

00:26:09 on the other side, it wouldn't have mattered.

00:26:11 They would have lit the cigars

00:26:12 because their head coach got fired.

00:26:14 - And Max Crosby is coming.

00:26:15 - No disrespect.

00:26:16 - Is coming for Zach Wilson.

00:26:17 - Yeah, no, that does make me nervous, that's a good point.

00:26:19 There are rations of Zach Wilson.

00:26:21 - Not just him coming for Zach Wilson,

00:26:23 but also his energy.

00:26:24 Like he's not gonna let those guys sleep this week.

00:26:26 He's gonna see them having a little bit of success

00:26:28 and he's gonna make sure,

00:26:29 he's been in five fights this week in practice,

00:26:32 trying to get the boys going.

00:26:33 They're gonna run Josh Jacobs a whole bunch.

00:26:35 I got the Raiders.

00:26:36 - Did you see Max inhale that cigar after a game?

00:26:38 - Yeah. - Yes.

00:26:39 - Oh my God.

00:26:40 - He's a beast.

00:26:41 - Yeah, it's a different.

00:26:42 - You saw that, Jerry?

00:26:43 - His mouth was disgusting.

00:26:44 - He's got some really good stats, very close to TJ.

00:26:45 - Them lungs, that's why he's playing.

00:26:47 - Him and TJ have the same sexist here.

00:26:48 - His mouth was disgusting after that.

00:26:50 - His lungs are insane.

00:26:51 - Playing the ball really good.

00:26:53 - Who are you taking in this game?

00:26:54 - Raiders. - Raiders.

00:26:55 - Raiders.

00:26:55 - And also you brought up a good point.

00:26:57 I think the under hits too.

00:26:59 I think that's a big play.

00:27:00 - Jets defense is awesome in there.

00:27:02 - Yeah, that's the thing.

00:27:03 It's Aiden O'Connell versus the Jets defense.

00:27:05 - Hey, they made the switch, man, O'Connell?

00:27:06 - They're gonna run the ball over and over and over again.

00:27:09 It's gonna be the fastest game in NFL history.

00:27:10 - Which the Jets should do more of.

00:27:12 Why aren't the Jets giving Brees Hall the ball more?

00:27:14 - I agree, he's on my fantasy team.

00:27:16 I do need Brees to get the ball more.

00:27:17 - Will, your gotta have it pick of the week

00:27:19 is the Broncos and the Bills, who gotta have it.

00:27:22 - The Bills gotta have it,

00:27:25 because when you watch the Bills play offense,

00:27:28 they don't have much of a run game

00:27:30 that makes you think at all on the second level.

00:27:33 They sit and gun the whole time.

00:27:34 They don't get a lot of push at the line of scrimmage.

00:27:36 All they rely on is Josh Allen making backyard football

00:27:40 plays with Diggs and Gabe Davis.

00:27:43 And I just don't think that they have an identity.

00:27:45 I still think they struggle defensively.

00:27:47 And when you look at the Broncos,

00:27:50 Russell Wilson has been having a sneaky, solid year.

00:27:53 I'll say sneaky, solid, like not sneaky great, none of that.

00:27:55 But he's not getting you beat.

00:27:57 He's operating the offense.

00:27:58 They're doing a better job balancing screens

00:28:00 in the offense.

00:28:01 And Sean Payton, they've gotten younger on defense.

00:28:03 I think they're playing better defensively.

00:28:05 And again, they forced five turnovers against the Chiefs.

00:28:08 I think the Broncos plus, what is it, seven?

00:28:11 Seven and a half.

00:28:13 I like the Broncos.

00:28:14 Bills got to have it, but I don't think they cover.

00:28:16 Taylor?

00:28:17 No, I agree with that.

00:28:18 I think Bills are strategically not handling the game very

00:28:22 well.

00:28:22 They do rely on Josh Allen.

00:28:24 Make sure he gets out of the pocket, rolls to his right,

00:28:26 and find Stephon Diggs somewhere down the line.

00:28:28 They're not really-- their game plan,

00:28:30 there's no identity in that team where you can sit there

00:28:33 and feel comfortable with a line that big.

00:28:35 So I'm going to go with the Broncos as well.

00:28:37 Look at Josh Allen.

00:28:38 I'm not saying he's playing bad by any means,

00:28:40 but every year with the Bills, that offense--

00:28:42 Friend of the show.

00:28:42 Yeah, friend of the show.

00:28:43 But I'm saying every year with that offense,

00:28:44 there's always some highlight coming out of Buffalo

00:28:46 where he's jumping over somebody,

00:28:47 somebody's running over-- something

00:28:49 where it's like, hey, the Bills are looking nice.

00:28:51 They don't have that at all right now.

00:28:52 Are you saying friend of PMT or yours?

00:28:54 We can have both.

00:28:55 Friend of the boys.

00:28:56 Yeah, friend of the boys.

00:28:56 Friend of the--

00:28:57 You interviewed him when he was still a college athlete.

00:28:59 Yeah.

00:29:00 He was your friend first.

00:29:01 Yeah.

00:29:02 You guys identified him.

00:29:04 I met him at Exos.

00:29:05 I met him at Exos.

00:29:06 Josh-- Josh-- draftjoshallen.com.

00:29:07 Ever heard of it?

00:29:08 No, yeah.

00:29:09 I saw the clip.

00:29:09 OK.

00:29:10 All right.

00:29:11 You guys do a great job.

00:29:12 We can share friends.

00:29:13 You've been operating at a high level for a very long time.

00:29:15 Yeah.

00:29:15 Josh is the best.

00:29:15 Very long time.

00:29:16 Josh is the best.

00:29:17 We're a couple of young guns new to the game.

00:29:19 Josh is the best.

00:29:20 Hasn't he been slandering the Bills though?

00:29:22 Yeah, I have.

00:29:23 A little bit.

00:29:23 Have you been slandering?

00:29:24 Yeah, I had an overly direct take presented by Dork TV.

00:29:26 More of the Brock Purdy.

00:29:27 OK.

00:29:28 More Brock Purdy.

00:29:28 More of the Brock Purdy.

00:29:29 Well--

00:29:29 No, no, no.

00:29:30 Let me just real quick.

00:29:32 I'm the messenger for somebody who is slandering Brock Purdy.

00:29:34 We already planned that it--

00:29:36 for the boys--

00:29:37 By the boys.

00:29:38 --and bringing out headlines when somebody's down three

00:29:41 games in a row and is a Brock Purdy and saying

00:29:43 he's not the guy is not as much of a--

00:29:45 Yeah.

00:29:46 --of a boys move.

00:29:47 That's all I'm saying about it.

00:29:48 And I love that.

00:29:48 I love that, Will.

00:29:49 But if you were to look back and you had the memory--

00:29:51 and I understand we both taken a lot of headshots in our life.

00:29:53 I said that back in February as well.

00:29:55 OK.

00:29:56 We can move on.

00:29:57 I'll go opposite.

00:29:58 I'll go opposite.

00:29:59 If the playoffs started today, the Bills

00:30:01 would not be in the playoffs.

00:30:02 They're now in a must-win situation in every single game.

00:30:05 And this is kind of-- they're at a real big crossroads,

00:30:09 not just in this season, but kind of in this organization.

00:30:12 And I think you're going to get the absolute best Bills

00:30:16 that you will see on Monday night.

00:30:18 And Monday night, Buffalo, that crowd's going to be ramped up.

00:30:21 It's going to be loud.

00:30:23 Yeah, I think the Bills are going to win this game

00:30:25 by like 10, 14 points.

00:30:27 Taylor, your got-to-have-it matchup is the Falcons

00:30:29 and the Cardinals.

00:30:30 The Cardinals are 1 and 8.

00:30:31 So I assume you're saying the Falcons need to have it?

00:30:33 The Falcons need this.

00:30:34 I just think Arthur Smith, big friend of the show.

00:30:37 Yeah, love Arthur Smith.

00:30:39 Love Arthur Smith.

00:30:40 I'm starting to get a little worried about him.

00:30:42 He's getting a lot of flack from the fans.

00:30:43 Shaved his mustache.

00:30:44 Shaved his mustache.

00:30:45 That's a telltale sign.

00:30:47 Yeah, it's like--

00:30:48 That's a bad move.

00:30:49 Bad vibes.

00:30:49 It's like a murderer getting a haircut.

00:30:51 And if you're only favored against what

00:30:52 you said the worst team in the NFL, the Cardinals,

00:30:54 by 1 and 1/2, that's a scary thing.

00:30:56 People are getting on him about B. John Robinson.

00:30:58 He's not inactive, but he has one carry a few weeks ago.

00:31:02 He's not dishing out the ball to Kyle Pitts very much.

00:31:04 The offense isn't doing very much.

00:31:06 And so to me, it seems like he's losing the fan

00:31:09 base in Atlanta a little bit.

00:31:11 And so for me, this is not just a got-to-have-it pick

00:31:13 of the week for the Falcons, but also that head coach.

00:31:15 And he shaved his mustache, which, by the way,

00:31:17 I've never heard of a murderer getting a haircut thing.

00:31:19 Is that--

00:31:20 Yeah, no.

00:31:20 Like, if you're guilty of something,

00:31:21 you change your look up.

00:31:23 Pirate Simon did that.

00:31:25 He did.

00:31:25 After break-up girls usually do that.

00:31:27 We got caught watching porn at the office,

00:31:29 and then the next day he came in with a new haircut.

00:31:31 Guilty.

00:31:32 What's going on?

00:31:33 That's a pirate guy?

00:31:34 Pirate Simon, yeah.

00:31:35 Pirate porn?

00:31:36 Pirate porn.

00:31:37 Stagnetti's Revenge.

00:31:38 That is hilarious.

00:31:39 But the haircut gave it away, huh?

00:31:41 Yeah, I mean, yeah.

00:31:42 What's going on?

00:31:43 Why are you changing your haircut?

00:31:44 You know who hasn't changed their look at all?

00:31:46 Who?

00:31:47 Jim Harbaugh.

00:31:47 What?

00:31:48 Pro football show.

00:31:49 Pro football show.

00:31:50 That was a good point, but we can circle back to that

00:31:52 when we're done talking.

00:31:52 But Falcons.

00:31:53 Falcons.

00:31:53 They're in the Falcons.

00:31:54 Dan, who are you taking?

00:31:55 I'll join you with the Falcons.

00:31:57 It makes me a little nervous because Kyler Murray's back,

00:31:59 and that might be a boost to the Cardinals locker room

00:32:02 and everything they got going on.

00:32:04 But then you also have to play the game of--

00:32:06 Kyler Murray hasn't played live action football

00:32:08 in over a year.

00:32:09 So a little rust.

00:32:11 Give me the Falcons.

00:32:12 I think the only boost for the Cardinals

00:32:14 is just for the fans.

00:32:14 They get to see Kyler go out there and play.

00:32:16 But he's kind of playing for--

00:32:18 we had this debate on PMT.

00:32:21 Kyler Murray is kind of playing for his job in Arizona.

00:32:26 The question is, does he want his job in Arizona?

00:32:28 I don't know the answer to that.

00:32:30 Does he want to stay a Cardinal?

00:32:31 Because he is kind of playing for it.

00:32:33 But also, Kyler Murray might be playing for his job

00:32:36 in Arizona, but everybody surrounding him

00:32:37 isn't playing for Kyler Murray to have his job in Arizona.

00:32:39 The stuff that comes out last year and everything

00:32:41 kind of behind the scenes and internally that

00:32:43 goes on with Kyler Murray, the fact

00:32:45 that the Falcons are only favored by 1 and 1/2 points,

00:32:47 it's like--

00:32:48 That's stinky.

00:32:49 This team's 1 and 8.

00:32:51 Brother, all the boys are prepping for their holiday

00:32:54 plans.

00:32:55 I mean, it's done in Arizona.

00:32:56 I don't think Kyler Murray gives them that much better of a--

00:32:59 They're talking about Pablo James Murray.

00:33:00 Thank God.

00:33:00 Maybe he can make something happen.

00:33:02 We don't have to try as hard.

00:33:03 I'm switching.

00:33:03 I'm taking the Cardinals.

00:33:06 After that?

00:33:07 It's a gambling thing.

00:33:08 No, what he said.

00:33:08 He's got some internal things going on.

00:33:10 He's like, they're 1 and 8, and they're only

00:33:12 a point and a half underdog?

00:33:13 That makes no sense.

00:33:14 Here's a question.

00:33:15 If Kyler Murray doesn't want his job in Arizona,

00:33:18 where is he going to go?

00:33:19 Because all the media stuff that comes out--

00:33:21 Back to the A's.

00:33:23 Someone would absolutely want Kyler Murray on their team.

00:33:27 But it is--

00:33:29 Think of the organizations that failed.

00:33:31 Yeah.

00:33:32 Think of them.

00:33:33 Name them.

00:33:34 There's a lot of them.

00:33:36 What, the Steelers want?

00:33:37 Has he got Steeler blood in him?

00:33:39 No, he's not a Steeler.

00:33:40 You and I both turn around.

00:33:42 Steelers let Dobbs walk out of the building.

00:33:45 Yeah, but Dobbs wasn't--

00:33:47 Dobbs was just--

00:33:48 I mean, he's not--

00:33:49 Patience.

00:33:50 He's not a really good starting quarterback.

00:33:52 He's a really good--

00:33:54 He's not a really good starting quarterback.

00:33:55 I don't know.

00:33:56 He's a really good backup quarterback.

00:33:57 Josh Jobs proved that you don't have to practice.

00:33:59 Yeah.

00:33:59 Practice is overrated.

00:34:00 Yeah, practice is overrated.

00:34:01 Learning people's names is overrated.

00:34:03 Yeah, no.

00:34:04 That's why there's numbers.

00:34:05 Yes, exactly.

00:34:06 They should literally take off all the names

00:34:08 on the back of the jersey and just go numbers.

00:34:09 You just don't need it.

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00:34:26 Let's start with another international game, Dan.

00:34:28 I know you're not a fan of all of these international games.

00:34:31 It's too many.

00:34:31 Too many.

00:34:32 In Germany, Colts and Patriots, 930.

00:34:35 It's the most American thing ever.

00:34:36 It is.

00:34:37 It's crazy.

00:34:38 When they did it as the one-off, it was fun.

00:34:41 Now it's every week.

00:34:42 It's not fun anymore.

00:34:43 It's kind of-- I've made this analogy.

00:34:45 It's like the winter classic.

00:34:46 When they did the one game a year outdoors for hockey,

00:34:49 it was fun.

00:34:49 Then they do like-- everyone's playing an outdoor game.

00:34:52 Yeah.

00:34:53 I'm on board with that.

00:34:54 I'll buy that stock.

00:34:55 Yeah.

00:34:55 There's a part of it that's cool because you wake up

00:34:57 and you know there's going to be football on a lot sooner.

00:35:00 But it's also just like, why are we

00:35:02 doing this every single week if we're just

00:35:03 not going to have a team move?

00:35:04 And this game stinks.

00:35:06 This game stinks.

00:35:07 Who are you taking?

00:35:09 I'm taking the Patriots.

00:35:10 And here's why.

00:35:13 Two reasons.

00:35:14 I do want to hear why.

00:35:15 Two reasons.

00:35:16 One, Gus Bradley, defensive coordinator for the Colts,

00:35:19 very predictable.

00:35:20 He runs his stuff.

00:35:21 That's what he does.

00:35:22 He doesn't do anything else.

00:35:24 I think Bill Belichick will be able to figure out--

00:35:27 Matt Jones has struggled a lot.

00:35:29 But when you go up against a defensive coordinator,

00:35:31 you're like, hey, here's what he's going to do

00:35:32 and he's not going to change.

00:35:33 Like, you have a little bit of a leg up, right?

00:35:35 Yeah.

00:35:36 Actually, I have three points.

00:35:37 Bill Belichick's never lost internationally, 3-0.

00:35:41 Doesn't really matter because Tom Brady was his quarterback.

00:35:44 Whatever.

00:35:45 That's just a stat.

00:35:46 That was a throw-in stat.

00:35:47 That was like a stalking stuffer.

00:35:48 Just like an additive--

00:35:49 That was a stalking stuffer.

00:35:50 Number three, Gardner Minshew, been in the league

00:35:52 for a very long time.

00:35:54 Never played against Bill Belichick.

00:35:56 I think Bill Belichick, when a quarterback sees him

00:35:58 for the first time, he can trick him.

00:36:00 He can do some stuff that confuses him.

00:36:02 So I'm taking the Patriots.

00:36:04 I don't feel confident in it.

00:36:06 It feels like the farther we get along the line of the Bill

00:36:09 Belichick Patriots without Tom Brady,

00:36:11 it's pretty clear that the Patriot way was just Tom Brady

00:36:14 being really fucking good at football.

00:36:16 That's got to be a tough pill to swallow.

00:36:18 Yeah, like, there's no Patriot way.

00:36:20 It was just Tom Brady's really fucking good at football.

00:36:22 Yeah, it's almost like, is the Patriot way dead?

00:36:25 I know it's not all the way dead until--

00:36:26 It was just all--

00:36:28 --he's fired.

00:36:29 But the culture is like, the Patriot way was Tom Brady.

00:36:32 It was Tom Brady being really fucking good at football.

00:36:34 Yes.

00:36:34 Well, and the argument, was it Bill Belichick or Tom Brady

00:36:37 died so quickly?

00:36:37 Because Tom goes and wins a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay,

00:36:39 and we see what the Patriots are doing.

00:36:41 So I feel like if anybody's still trying to argue that--

00:36:43 The Patriot way tricked you when they went 10 and 7 a couple--

00:36:45 or a few-- or a couple years ago.

00:36:47 And it was like, OK, maybe--

00:36:48 It is, yeah.

00:36:48 --you know, they just needed a little bit of time.

00:36:49 But then you go losing record last year, 8 and 9.

00:36:52 And this year, you're dead last.

00:36:54 And they're having all these internal-- like,

00:36:56 guys are kind of arguing on the sideline.

00:36:57 Like, I agree with you.

00:36:58 I think they'll have a game plan against the cover three

00:37:00 offense.

00:37:00 But if they have one misstep, like that culture--

00:37:03 I have a nice little quote, too.

00:37:05 "Art of War," one of Billy B's favorites.

00:37:08 If there is disturbance in the camp,

00:37:10 the general's authority is weak.

00:37:12 I think the Patriot way is dying.

00:37:14 It is pretty much dead.

00:37:15 It's dead.

00:37:15 And there's a lot--

00:37:16 It was Tom Brady.

00:37:17 It was.

00:37:18 It was Tom Brady.

00:37:18 It's like, there will be probably in 10 years,

00:37:21 there'll be like a Chiefs way.

00:37:22 It's like, no, it's Patrick Mahomes really fucking good

00:37:24 at quarterback.

00:37:25 Like, that's what the way is.

00:37:27 Well, Andy Reid is.

00:37:28 Yeah, I know.

00:37:29 But like, you can't--

00:37:29 like, and I'm not saying that Bill Belichick

00:37:31 isn't a phenomenal coach.

00:37:32 He's probably the best coach of all time.

00:37:34 I'm just saying like, this idea that like,

00:37:36 this is the way we do things, and it's

00:37:37 so different than everyone else.

00:37:38 No, the difference is you had Tom Brady as your quarterback.

00:37:40 Yeah, players when you gave--

00:37:42 Right.

00:37:42 Absolutely.

00:37:43 Correct, for two decades.

00:37:43 When did we start putting Andy Reid in that conversation

00:37:45 over Bill Belichick?

00:37:46 I've made-- we had a debate about whether that debate would

00:37:51 happen.

00:37:53 And I won that.

00:37:53 I won the pre-debate.

00:37:55 You won it.

00:37:56 Hank finally capitulated and said, yes, the debate

00:37:59 will eventually happen.

00:38:00 So I won the pre-debate.

00:38:01 How soon do you think that debate's going to happen?

00:38:03 If they win another one.

00:38:04 Because Andy Reid also, he's done it

00:38:06 with two different organizations.

00:38:09 He's done it with multiple-- like, the stats are coming out

00:38:13 now, like Bill Belichick with and without Tom Brady.

00:38:16 Andy Reid won a lot of games with Alex Smith,

00:38:19 won a lot of games with Don McNabb.

00:38:20 So yeah, I think the debate will happen.

00:38:23 And again, I won the pre-debate.

00:38:25 That's most important.

00:38:26 Which is sometimes stronger than the debate.

00:38:27 No.

00:38:28 The pretty arrows.

00:38:28 Yeah.

00:38:28 It gives you a lot of momentum going into the next debate,

00:38:30 or the real debate.

00:38:32 You want to be careful.

00:38:33 Did you go Colts or you go Pats?

00:38:34 Colts.

00:38:34 Yeah, I'm going Colts.

00:38:35 Colts?

00:38:36 I didn't say a lot.

00:38:37 I think there's a lot of complacency in the Northeast

00:38:38 right now when it comes to the Patriots.

00:38:40 I'll refer back to last time I was here for the Barstool

00:38:42 Awards, talked to two guys, heavy Boston accents.

00:38:45 And they were like, Bill Belichick

00:38:46 can stay as long as you want.

00:38:47 And that's when I figured out that the Pats are dead.

00:38:50 Chiefs might not even have to win.

00:38:53 Jerry, did you like that?

00:38:54 It's like if the Patriots continue this--

00:38:57 Six is a lot of Super Bowls.

00:38:59 It is, but I'm saying if you're going

00:39:01 to argue Bill Belichick and Andy Reid,

00:39:03 there's still an argument there.

00:39:05 I mean, who is--

00:39:05 You're saying the debate's happening right now.

00:39:07 Yeah.

00:39:07 Oh, wow.

00:39:08 So my pre-debate's even stronger.

00:39:09 Your pre-debate, yeah, but--

00:39:11 Because I didn't think the debate was going to happen

00:39:12 for another couple of years.

00:39:13 But now--

00:39:14 No, it's already happening.

00:39:15 --what I'm asking you is, are you

00:39:15 prepared for this debate now?

00:39:18 I don't care about this debate.

00:39:19 I only cared about winning the pre-debate.

00:39:21 But Dan, the debate's already here

00:39:22 because Taylor brought it up.

00:39:23 So you could bring up the pre-debate.

00:39:24 The debate was put on the table.

00:39:26 The pre-start of the real debate.

00:39:27 Just your opening statement.

00:39:29 I think that Bill Belichick is pretty safe as the greatest

00:39:32 coach of all time for right now.

00:39:34 Six Super Bowls is a lot.

00:39:35 They see the "for right now" part.

00:39:36 And I--

00:39:37 It's the little things.

00:39:38 It's the little details.

00:39:38 There's an open.

00:39:39 Andy Reid gets two--

00:39:40 There's an open.

00:39:40 --if he gets two, three more--

00:39:42 If he gets two, three more, then yeah, that's a real debate.

00:39:46 The pre-debate.

00:39:47 Two different franchises.

00:39:48 I know.

00:39:49 I know.

00:39:49 Boy, there's people in New England right now

00:39:50 that do not like that.

00:39:51 They're the big quarterbacks.

00:39:53 Like, you get Billy B, you got first rounder, and the GOAT.

00:39:55 Yeah.

00:39:55 Dan, before we move on from the international game,

00:39:57 you've been always talking about travel plans.

00:39:59 I know that switched last week because of what the Chiefs did.

00:40:01 It fucked me so bad.

00:40:02 It fucked me so bad.

00:40:05 All year, I've been like, Dolphins fraudulent.

00:40:07 If they play any good team, they lose.

00:40:09 Bet any good team against the Dolphins.

00:40:11 And then the Chiefs decided to go on Thursday to Germany,

00:40:13 and it fucked me up.

00:40:14 Fucked me up.

00:40:15 It's a tough look for all the players

00:40:17 out there when you still have to travel on Thursday now.

00:40:18 Because now you've got more data that says, hey,

00:40:20 we can go later in the week.

00:40:21 Yeah.

00:40:22 No, you can't.

00:40:23 You need Patrick Mahomes.

00:40:25 I agree.

00:40:25 I'm just saying it's going to suck when a coach sees it.

00:40:27 Like, oh, no, we can go on this time,

00:40:29 because I think that's what's best.

00:40:30 Right.

00:40:30 Yeah.

00:40:31 So does this week have any-- do you know the travel plans?

00:40:34 I don't know the travel plans, but I

00:40:35 guess that does go back to my stocking stuffer

00:40:37 stat that Bill Belichick's 3-0 internationally.

00:40:39 So clearly, he's got a plan that he's probably--

00:40:42 Tom Brady.

00:40:43 Tom Brady, yeah.

00:40:43 So then I just negated my own plan.

00:40:46 It's kind of the--

00:40:47 That was the plan.

00:40:47 Yes.

00:40:47 I'm Tom Brady.

00:40:48 It's an internal battle.

00:40:49 Yeah, just fighting multiple wars.

00:40:50 I am.

00:40:51 Right now, I'm like--

00:40:51 I'm optimistic.

00:40:52 I don't think the Patriots have a whole lot of optimism.

00:40:54 Right now, it's just like a copy of me.

00:40:56 Like, I'm a body double, and I'm back to back with myself,

00:40:59 just like shooting in a circle.

00:41:00 Yes.

00:41:01 Just trying to fend off everyone,

00:41:03 because I can't-- my brain can't handle this right now.

00:41:06 I'm just talking to myself in circles.

00:41:07 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:08 You know, it's--

00:41:08 I literally just had a point, and then I

00:41:10 went back to my original point that negated my first point.

00:41:14 But the travel plan--

00:41:15 No, I'm not changing.

00:41:16 I'm not changing.

00:41:18 I made the point that the travel--

00:41:19 Bill Belichick knows how to travel,

00:41:21 because he's 3-0 internationally.

00:41:22 And Will correctly pointed out, but he also had Tom Brady.

00:41:25 He's like, yep, that was Brady.

00:41:25 But the travel plans were changed with the Chiefs

00:41:28 because of Patrick Mahomes.

00:41:29 So technically, you have two caveats.

00:41:31 By the end of the show--

00:41:31 Have good players, and travel doesn't matter.

00:41:33 That's really what it means.

00:41:35 Jet lag doesn't matter when you have the greatest of all time.

00:41:37 Yeah.

00:41:37 By the end of the show, you need to revisit this real quick.

00:41:39 OK.

00:41:40 OK, we'll circle back.

00:41:41 This is a hell of a rapid fire.

00:41:42 Yeah, he's going in a circle, shooting at himself.

00:41:45 We'll see where that ends.

00:41:46 OK, the Texans and the Bengals.

00:41:47 Will, I'll start with you.

00:41:49 Give me the Bengals.

00:41:50 I think CJ Stradi's been playing phenomenal.

00:41:53 But this Burroughs offense, the Bengals offense,

00:41:57 even defensively now, they're playing more confident.

00:42:00 I think that they handle them.

00:42:02 CJ Strad, Joe Burroughs straight up.

00:42:04 I mean, Joey B, he's playing at a high level right now.

00:42:06 I like the Bengals.

00:42:08 You're not worried about Nojamar Chase?

00:42:10 Yeah, I'm a little worried.

00:42:12 OK, was that breaking news?

00:42:13 He just found that out.

00:42:14 I found that out.

00:42:15 He definitely found that out.

00:42:15 You know what happened to my brain?

00:42:18 I saw that this morning, and it wasn't imprinted in my brain

00:42:21 long enough to--

00:42:21 He didn't really take it in.

00:42:23 Now that he said that, I thought, oh, that's right.

00:42:25 I was kind of thinking about the Texans.

00:42:27 You heard it.

00:42:28 You didn't listen to it.

00:42:29 The way that they move the ball offensively, too,

00:42:31 like the ways they beat you, the window dressing,

00:42:33 the motioning, the getting-- lining up under center,

00:42:35 trying to have a run game.

00:42:36 I think the Bengals do a really good job

00:42:39 structuring that offense.

00:42:40 That is concerning, especially covering seven points.

00:42:42 But I'm still going to go Bengals,

00:42:43 because I've already committed.

00:42:46 To be the man, you've got to beat the man.

00:42:48 CJ Stroud, I don't know.

00:42:49 There you go.

00:42:50 I like the quotes that you're coming up with.

00:42:51 That was a panic quote.

00:42:53 That was a panic quote.

00:42:54 That was a decent one.

00:42:55 That was like a throw it up for, hey,

00:42:57 like, hopefully one of my guys catches this.

00:42:59 Your quote was for CJ Stroud.

00:43:01 So are you going Texans?

00:43:02 No, no, no.

00:43:02 To be the man, you have to beat the man.

00:43:04 CJ Stroud's got to beat the man.

00:43:06 So you don't think he's the man?

00:43:07 I don't think he's the man yet, no.

00:43:08 Is Joe Burrow the man?

00:43:10 Joe Burrow's the man.

00:43:10 But he hasn't beaten the man, winning a Super Bowl.

00:43:13 Oh, yeah.

00:43:13 We have a double man.

00:43:14 We have a double man.

00:43:15 In this game, Joe Burrow is the man.

00:43:17 Is the man, yes.

00:43:18 I do think Joe Burrow's the man.

00:43:19 Yes, in this game, he is the man.

00:43:20 So you're going Bengals as well?

00:43:21 No, I'm not.

00:43:23 I put a future on the Bengals 22 to 1

00:43:24 when they were at halftime in the Niners game.

00:43:26 I believe in the Bengals.

00:43:27 Seven points is too much for a Texans team that's

00:43:29 playing great, great football.

00:43:31 CJ Stroud is awesome.

00:43:33 And what happened last week is what I think every Texan fan

00:43:38 was hoping would eventually happen.

00:43:40 They're letting him throw the ball more.

00:43:41 And they're not just being like, first down, run the ball.

00:43:44 First down, run the ball.

00:43:45 Put him in bad positions.

00:43:46 They got a ton of weapons.

00:43:48 And I think seven points, they stay in this game.

00:43:52 Have you seen what Dante said about him?

00:43:53 I need you to talk to him.

00:43:54 He said that he wasn't that good at Ohio State.

00:43:56 Dante didn't watch college football.

00:43:57 It's fine.

00:43:58 I mean, that's just--

00:43:59 CJ Stroud was really good at Ohio State.

00:44:00 I love Dante. Dante, I love you.

00:44:01 When I saw that tweet, I was like, what is going on?

00:44:03 I said on Monday's PMT that Jedrick

00:44:06 Wills, who's Zouppi, went pfft.

00:44:09 I said he was their star offensive lineman.

00:44:12 Browns fans were like, what the fuck are you talking about?

00:44:14 We all make mistakes.

00:44:15 Everybody makes mistakes.

00:44:16 We all make mistakes.

00:44:16 Right.

00:44:17 Yeah, no disrespect to Dante.

00:44:18 I just couldn't believe that he said that.

00:44:19 The good thing is the ability to go back on those mistakes.

00:44:20 Right, exactly.

00:44:21 I'm going to take the Texans as well.

00:44:23 I think CJ Stroud fires me up.

00:44:24 He's the best quarterback in Ohio State history.

00:44:27 And this is what fires me up.

00:44:28 Obviously, he had five touchdowns.

00:44:30 He got 478 yards last week.

00:44:31 The bus with the boys interview?

00:44:33 The bus with the boys interview.

00:44:34 That fired me up, the way he kind of approaches the game.

00:44:36 He's very humble.

00:44:37 When he wins, he puts it on the team.

00:44:38 When he loses, he puts it on himself.

00:44:41 But the play that he handed it off to the running back that

00:44:45 runs off to the sideline, they pitch it,

00:44:47 they didn't call that.

00:44:48 That's like that Patrick Mahomes backyard football stuff,

00:44:50 where a rookie is playing with confidence that is not usually

00:44:53 seen out of a rookie, especially when

00:44:55 that comes out of Ohio State.

00:44:56 And I think this guy is going to be extremely special.

00:44:59 I feel terrible for my Titans, because that's

00:45:01 going to be a big issue.

00:45:02 That's going to be a big issue.

00:45:04 But I like CJ Stroud a lot.

00:45:05 And the reason why I'm going Texas here,

00:45:07 I think the number's too big.

00:45:08 I could use a little bit of BC's theory, strategizing.

00:45:12 Bill Belichick?

00:45:12 War room, yeah.

00:45:14 If I lean on Dan's philosophy, Texans, they're beating--

00:45:18 the Bengals, this is the toughest division of football.

00:45:21 This isn't the NFC South, who they've been beating.

00:45:23 So that's, to me, you're going against a different animal

00:45:26 in Cincinnati.

00:45:26 Yeah, but it's seven points.

00:45:28 Seven points.

00:45:29 I think Tank Dell, by the way, is so good.

00:45:32 He's so good.

00:45:33 You guys know that guy's name?

00:45:35 He's a wide receiver for the Texans?

00:45:37 Yeah, no, no, no.

00:45:38 Tank Dell is so--

00:45:39 CJ Stroud.

00:45:40 Tank Dell is so good.

00:45:41 Yeah.

00:45:41 Jerry agreed with you.

00:45:42 I shook my head.

00:45:43 He's going to lighten it out this year.

00:45:45 I was going to let them process that.

00:45:46 He's the guy who's going to get paid because of CJ Stroud.

00:45:48 That's right.

00:45:48 There you go.

00:45:48 That's right.

00:45:49 Good point, Bill.

00:45:50 There you go.

00:45:51 All right, Taylor, the Saints and the Vikings.

00:45:53 [LAUGHTER]

00:45:57 Vikings.

00:45:57 OK.

00:45:58 [INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:46:00 He says them, we're just like--

00:46:01 I knew it.

00:46:02 I know.

00:46:02 I was like, guys, come on.

00:46:03 Breaking news.

00:46:04 Let's go.

00:46:04 Tank Dell's really good.

00:46:05 Guys, just operating on a different system

00:46:07 than we are right now.

00:46:07 Both of you were hoping the other person said something else.

00:46:10 God will save me is all I thought.

00:46:11 Jerry said yes.

00:46:12 I'm sitting over here like, somebody's got to talk.

00:46:14 I'm sitting here chasing just immediately the wiring.

00:46:16 Oh, yeah.

00:46:17 [LAUGHTER]

00:46:19 But with Dan, it's like sometimes he'll

00:46:21 just throw out a statue that's not even real.

00:46:23 And if you disagree with it too quickly, then he has you there.

00:46:25 So you thought maybe he made the name up.

00:46:27 There were some walls up there.

00:46:28 Those sound like a fake name.

00:46:29 Some fun defensive walls, but you still want to get got.

00:46:31 Just a little bit of trauma there.

00:46:33 That's OK.

00:46:33 That was good enough to where you do have to think through,

00:46:35 is he trying to get you or something?

00:46:36 No, 1000%.

00:46:38 I'm going to have to mix in a fake name now at some point.

00:46:41 And I guarantee the next time the fake name comes up,

00:46:43 I will-- yeah.

00:46:45 You're 100% right.

00:46:47 Stat time.

00:46:48 Let's go.

00:46:49 Dan didn't get to see this one.

00:46:50 Saints, when they're favored by 2 and 1/2 or more,

00:46:53 they're 0, 6, and 1 against the spread.

00:46:56 They're favored by 2 and 1/2 today.

00:46:58 And so for that reason, I'll be going Vikings.

00:47:00 I think Josh Dobbs is better than people think.

00:47:02 I think him coming in and giving that kind of energy--

00:47:05 this is the best team Josh Dobbs has been a part of, starting.

00:47:08 Getting in, full game.

00:47:10 He's got weapons around him.

00:47:11 He's got a defense that hasn't performed,

00:47:13 but are coming together.

00:47:14 They're going to win this game.

00:47:16 And I think the NFC South is kind of like--

00:47:18 it's tough right now.

00:47:19 Saints haven't beat anybody either.

00:47:20 0 and 6 against NFC teams.

00:47:22 They haven't beat a team with a winning record.

00:47:23 They barely beat the Bears.

00:47:24 They had a 5-0 turnover.

00:47:25 Yes.

00:47:26 Crazy.

00:47:27 Dan, who are you taking?

00:47:28 Saints.

00:47:29 Oh.

00:47:29 Will?

00:47:30 Go ahead.

00:47:30 Well, hold on.

00:47:31 I'm going Vikings.

00:47:32 I think--

00:47:34 I think Dennis Allen, that staff,

00:47:37 isn't competing with O'Connell and his staff.

00:47:39 And I think with this next man up mentality

00:47:41 that the Vikings have now been able to embrace,

00:47:43 they're wearing the Kirk O'Thuggin shirts.

00:47:45 Not only did Josh Dobbs step in last minute

00:47:48 and have to get talked through while he's

00:47:49 operating the offense--

00:47:50 shout out to the boy David Questenberry.

00:47:52 He had to step in right before the game.

00:47:54 Again, outright tackle.

00:47:55 This next man up mentality that they are embracing.

00:47:57 They know that they're playing with this culture behind them,

00:48:00 with this winning momentum behind them.

00:48:02 I like the Vikings.

00:48:03 And again, I think the Saints, they

00:48:05 haven't beat anybody worth talking about.

00:48:07 Did you get that name?

00:48:08 Who?

00:48:09 David Questenberry.

00:48:09 Yeah.

00:48:10 Oh, yeah.

00:48:10 Yeah, he was on the-- was he on the sideline?

00:48:12 That was a great clip of them going through the cadence

00:48:14 right before he came on.

00:48:15 I love Josh Dobbs.

00:48:17 And the Vikings are playing great ball.

00:48:20 Do you guys hear what he's doing back here?

00:48:22 He's doing a little yoga.

00:48:23 It's not just the yoga and the stretching.

00:48:25 He's just grunting.

00:48:26 And it's all--

00:48:27 You've got to stay limber, Jerry.

00:48:28 I back popped.

00:48:28 You spend that long in a car, you're going to have to stay limber.

00:48:31 Yeah.

00:48:31 The Vikings are playing great ball.

00:48:33 Josh Dobbs, incredible story.

00:48:37 Couple things.

00:48:37 One is, now he's got practice.

00:48:40 Does it slow it down?

00:48:41 The way he was playing that game against the Falcons--

00:48:42 Practice hurt him.

00:48:43 No.

00:48:43 I'm serious, though.

00:48:44 I watched that game against the Falcons.

00:48:46 I had the Vikings in that game.

00:48:48 I'll say it.

00:48:49 I got a little lucky.

00:48:50 That was more about the Falcons just collapsing.

00:48:53 The Vikings were-- it was a little fluke playish,

00:48:55 but Josh Dobbs deserves all the credit.

00:48:57 Now he's got to get all the information in his head,

00:49:00 get in the play calls.

00:49:00 He was just playing backyard football,

00:49:02 and it's hard to defend against that when a guy's feeling himself

00:49:05 and he's making those type of plays.

00:49:06 That 22-yard run he had on fourth and seven was insane.

00:49:10 This game, though, comes down to one thing for me.

00:49:12 Brian Flores, what does he love to do?

00:49:14 Blitz.

00:49:15 Yes.

00:49:15 How do you beat the blitz?

00:49:16 Play action.

00:49:17 No?

00:49:18 No, definitely not.

00:49:19 Checkdowns.

00:49:20 Who loves to check down?

00:49:21 [LAUGHTER]

00:49:25 Who loves to check down?

00:49:26 Saints.

00:49:27 Derek Carr.

00:49:28 Yeah, Alvin Kamara.

00:49:29 I think that's like putting your hand in a well-fitted glove.

00:49:32 I think they will--

00:49:33 Yeah.

00:49:34 [LAUGHTER]

00:49:35 Gary was so fast.

00:49:37 That was like--

00:49:38 Get your quarterback killed even more.

00:49:39 Turn your back away from the defense.

00:49:44 Your facial expression--

00:49:45 Make it a five-second drop.

00:49:47 You were shocked when he said that.

00:49:48 I can't believe he said that.

00:49:50 I was so fucking wild.

00:49:52 Derek Carr just getting smashed to smithereens

00:49:54 while he's got his back to everyone.

00:49:56 Turn your back to the entire defense blitzing you.

00:49:58 Yeah.

00:49:58 That's the way we beat the blitz.

00:49:59 No, but I--

00:50:00 Or get the ball out of your hands.

00:50:01 Yeah, and checkdowns.

00:50:03 Right.

00:50:04 That is what--

00:50:04 Three points in play action if you're moving the pocket.

00:50:07 What I meant was if there's a guy blitzing--

00:50:09 That's a different category.

00:50:09 I know it's a different category.

00:50:11 I'm trying to help my man out back there.

00:50:12 There is.

00:50:13 Move the pocket and play action are two separate parts

00:50:16 of the play book.

00:50:17 I liked his confidence, though.

00:50:20 Some bootleg is--

00:50:21 He wins.

00:50:22 Gary, I don't want that to hurt us.

00:50:23 I don't want that to hurt us.

00:50:24 Taylor, Taylor moving the pocket from a bootleg,

00:50:27 that is technically--

00:50:28 Yeah, for RPL.

00:50:28 You got to extend the arm.

00:50:30 He is.

00:50:30 You got to get the line back to the plate.

00:50:31 He's on the--

00:50:32 That's true.

00:50:33 Yeah.

00:50:33 If it's an RPL.

00:50:34 Hey, and if I'm using a Dan Katz theory, a BC theory

00:50:37 right here, Josh Dobbs, he's still in the learning phase

00:50:41 playing games.

00:50:42 It's more of like when he settled in

00:50:43 and has the entire playbook.

00:50:45 Like you get a few games out of him,

00:50:47 there's more optimism there.

00:50:48 Well, no, but what happened with the Cardinals?

00:50:50 September, they did good.

00:50:52 Right.

00:50:52 He had just shown up.

00:50:53 How many games he get to play?

00:50:53 He get to play four.

00:50:54 We might not get four out.

00:50:54 Oh, you're saying he's still in that.

00:50:56 He's still in the learning phase.

00:50:57 OK, that's fair.

00:50:58 And NASA guy, too.

00:50:58 He's going to register that playbook.

00:51:00 The Pastranaut.

00:51:00 But I do think it comes down to, yeah,

00:51:02 the Vikings like to blitz.

00:51:03 And Derek Carr, like that's--

00:51:05 his strength is to just dump it off to Alvin Kamara.

00:51:08 There's a prop bet of the week right there.

00:51:10 It might be.

00:51:11 It might be.

00:51:12 You'll see Alvin Kamara get a lot of catches.

00:51:14 We will.

00:51:14 We better not.

00:51:15 OK, Jerry, your Packers and Steelers,

00:51:17 or your Steelers against the Packers, how are you feeling?

00:51:20 I feel good this week.

00:51:21 I feel good this week.

00:51:22 I really do.

00:51:22 Steelers are at home.

00:51:24 TJ Watt, he's humming on all cylinders.

00:51:26 Kenny Pickett, listen, I think it's going to be a close game.

00:51:29 And I love it even more, because Kenny Pickett has

00:51:31 proven he's a winner late.

00:51:33 He's the best quarterback in the fourth quarter in the NFL

00:51:35 this year.

00:51:36 And you could take that to the bank,

00:51:37 because that is a real stat.

00:51:40 So I'm going with the Steelers.

00:51:41 Jerry comes up with these stats every week.

00:51:42 And I don't know if they're real or not.

00:51:44 He's the best quarter--

00:51:45 Best fourth quarter quarterback.

00:51:47 Best fourth quarter quarterback.

00:51:50 Best fourth quarter quarterback.

00:51:52 Best fourth quarter quarterback in the NFL this year.

00:51:54 Stats.

00:51:54 What stats back that up?

00:51:56 Completion percentage, QBR.

00:51:57 They don't score, and then somebody

00:51:59 has to score in the fourth quarter.

00:52:01 I think he's tied for second or first, actually,

00:52:04 in fourth quarter comebacks with four minutes or less this year.

00:52:09 He had to win.

00:52:10 That's a real stat.

00:52:11 I'm with you on the Steelers, but I

00:52:13 don't think it has anything to do with Kenny Pickett being

00:52:15 good in the fourth quarter.

00:52:16 I think it's more--

00:52:17 the Steelers are sixth in the league at pressure rate.

00:52:19 I think they're going to get to Jordan Love.

00:52:21 Jordan Love's one of the worst quarterbacks against pressure.

00:52:23 And that's why I like the Steelers, because both

00:52:25 of these teams are the worst offenses in the league

00:52:27 in the first quarter, coming out.

00:52:31 Nobody's going to score, but I think

00:52:34 Steelers get to Jordan Love, and I don't think

00:52:36 the Packers will do very good.

00:52:37 They should start the game in the second quarter.

00:52:39 That way they start--

00:52:40 Just throw it out.

00:52:40 Throw it out.

00:52:41 Throw the first quarter out.

00:52:41 Throw the guys out.

00:52:42 You guys are starting second quarter.

00:52:43 Let's burn the clock here.

00:52:44 Yeah.

00:52:45 Dan, what do you think?

00:52:46 I'm going to take the Packers.

00:52:47 Oh.

00:52:48 We're against each other in a lot of games.

00:52:49 A lot of games.

00:52:50 Separation Sunday.

00:52:51 Why?

00:52:51 People calling it.

00:52:52 Tell me why, Dan.

00:52:53 OK.

00:52:53 I'll give you two reasons, or a few reasons.

00:52:56 It's tough to go against four, you know?

00:52:58 Just the Packers.

00:52:58 I don't know how many reasons I'm going to go.

00:53:00 It's unlimited reasons, because I might just get going,

00:53:02 and I might just start rattling off reasons.

00:53:04 Reason number one, the Packers' biggest problem this year--

00:53:08 well, they've had a lot of problems,

00:53:09 but one of their biggest problems this year

00:53:11 is slow start games.

00:53:12 So they start really slow.

00:53:14 Up until last week, it had been 10 quarters,

00:53:17 five games that they hadn't scored a touchdown

00:53:19 in the first half.

00:53:20 Do you know what team you can start slow against

00:53:23 and still be in the game?

00:53:24 The Pittsburgh Steelers, because they also start slow.

00:53:27 So this is not one of those situations

00:53:29 where the Packers, they have a slow start in the first half,

00:53:31 and they're like, oh, we're down 14, we're down 17.

00:53:34 Yeah, you're right.

00:53:34 The Steelers start very slow.

00:53:36 So I think it's going to be a tight game throughout.

00:53:38 The Packers' run defense has gotten better.

00:53:41 They have-- the last two games, they've

00:53:43 kind of fixed some things.

00:53:44 They're starting to play more as a unit.

00:53:47 And George Pickens is crazy.

00:53:50 That has to matter.

00:53:51 Yeah.

00:53:52 I mean--

00:53:52 That has to matter.

00:53:53 Mike Tomlin said it doesn't matter.

00:53:54 Mike Tomlin said it doesn't matter.

00:53:55 Right.

00:53:55 Well, that's what he's got us--

00:53:56 He likes his players hungry.

00:53:57 Here's a little-- here's a little tip.

00:53:58 Mike Tomlin's a little--

00:53:59 If a coach has to say something doesn't matter,

00:54:01 it means it matters.

00:54:02 True.

00:54:02 Because if it didn't matter, you'd never

00:54:03 have to say it doesn't matter.

00:54:04 Yeah.

00:54:05 Yeah, that post-game stuff going on last week, like that's--

00:54:07 Yeah, that was rough.

00:54:08 It's not a good sign.

00:54:09 So I think that there's a weird-- that's

00:54:10 a weird vibe in that locker room,

00:54:13 especially now that Deontay Johnson is back,

00:54:15 which should help George Pickens.

00:54:16 We talked about that last week.

00:54:18 Yeah, I think the Packers--

00:54:20 I don't think the Packers are good.

00:54:22 I just think three points against the Pittsburgh Steelers

00:54:24 is a spread I'll always take, because they're not

00:54:27 going to blow anyone out.

00:54:28 They're not.

00:54:28 They just play tight games.

00:54:29 I agree.

00:54:29 No, they don't.

00:54:30 So they might win by two, and I'll cover.

00:54:31 You've always said something, but my thing

00:54:33 is you've had optimism.

00:54:34 You've found the optimism with the Steelers all year.

00:54:36 The Packers, you've taken every opportunity

00:54:38 to talk about them not being good--

00:54:40 They're not good.

00:54:41 --coming back not being good.

00:54:41 No, they're not good.

00:54:41 But now you want to take them against the boy back here?

00:54:43 Yeah.

00:54:44 Sometimes a team's not good enough that they become good.

00:54:47 I don't think--

00:54:47 Separation Sunday.

00:54:48 Yeah.

00:54:49 Separation Sunday.

00:54:49 Put that on a cool--

00:54:50 Not good enough to where they become good.

00:54:52 Well, with the spread.

00:54:54 It's a gambling brain.

00:54:55 I mean, I get it.

00:54:56 It's a gambling brain.

00:54:56 Once you get so bad, everyone's like, they're so bad.

00:54:59 Like, but wait.

00:55:00 Now they're catching three points

00:55:02 against the Steelers team that can't blow anyone out.

00:55:04 Maybe they're good.

00:55:05 Gambling brain.

00:55:06 In this scenario.

00:55:07 Can't explain it.

00:55:08 Taylor, who are you taking?

00:55:10 Jerry.

00:55:12 Last time I was here, the Steelers were playing the Rams.

00:55:15 And I was going to go with the Rams.

00:55:17 And everybody-- we sat here as a group.

00:55:18 We bonded for Jerry.

00:55:20 And we went Steelers.

00:55:21 And Steelers won.

00:55:22 Jerry's been wrong about every single--

00:55:24 Hold on.

00:55:25 That's not a lie.

00:55:27 Not everyone.

00:55:28 Sort of.

00:55:29 Steelers--

00:55:30 Wrong about four.

00:55:30 Steelers were playing Jacksonville.

00:55:32 They were underdogs at home.

00:55:34 I found the stat.

00:55:35 15-4 in one.

00:55:38 When Mike Tomlin is a dog at home, I text Jerry.

00:55:41 I said, what do you got?

00:55:42 He texted me.

00:55:42 And what'd you say, Jerry?

00:55:43 Free money.

00:55:44 Free money.

00:55:45 And what happened?

00:55:45 They won.

00:55:46 No.

00:55:46 They lost.

00:55:47 They lost.

00:55:48 So now, Jerry and I are one and one together.

00:55:51 You even heard him do--

00:55:53 like a question mark in there?

00:55:54 No, they did not.

00:55:55 He just tried to cast--

00:55:56 So this pick for me is not only--

00:55:59 because I want the Steelers to win for Jerry to be happy.

00:56:03 But this is a foundational pick for Jerry

00:56:05 and I's relationship.

00:56:06 And I'm betting on Jerry and our relationship.

00:56:08 I feel a whole lot more comfortable

00:56:10 if Dan would take back everything he said

00:56:12 and go with the Steelers as well.

00:56:14 Because that's what happened last time.

00:56:15 He's been wrong about the Steelers every single week.

00:56:18 But when we were all together, we're 1 and 0.

00:56:20 Taylor, the last time he tries throwing these quarter half

00:56:23 stats and everything else, it was when they were about

00:56:25 to play the Texans when he's like, oh, this is the best.

00:56:27 Yeah, free money.

00:56:27 That was the free money.

00:56:27 This is the best defense.

00:56:28 And he's talking a little crazy about Kenny Pickett

00:56:31 right now, which makes me uncomfortable.

00:56:33 So switch your pick, tough guy.

00:56:34 I'm going with Steelers.

00:56:35 No, no, switch your pick.

00:56:36 No, I'm not switching my pick.

00:56:38 I believe in the Steelers.

00:56:39 I just don't think it's about Kenny Pickett

00:56:41 in the fourth quarter.

00:56:42 It is.

00:56:43 He's shown he can win this game.

00:56:44 You've got to hit the open guy over the middle.

00:56:46 I'm not worried.

00:56:47 I'm worried about fourth quarter.

00:56:48 Take the glove off.

00:56:49 And that's it.

00:56:49 You win games in the fourth quarter, you stay.

00:56:53 You going to switch it?

00:56:54 Packers are a decent 7 and 1/2 team, too.

00:56:56 So you're going to switch?

00:56:57 I'm no Steelers.

00:56:58 Steelers.

00:56:58 I'm going with Steelers.

00:56:59 Will is a guy that will never switch his pick in the moment.

00:57:01 That's false.

00:57:02 I literally switched yesterday right after slips and picks.

00:57:04 Right after slips and picks, but not in the moment.

00:57:06 Exactly what I just said.

00:57:07 When the cameras are rolling and the lights are on,

00:57:08 you won't switch.

00:57:09 Exactly what I just said.

00:57:10 You ever done the full card switch?

00:57:11 Hey, that was a full thought.

00:57:12 Electric.

00:57:12 Not a full card.

00:57:13 I've done that at advisors.

00:57:15 Did it work out?

00:57:16 I can't remember.

00:57:17 I think I went like 500, so probably not.

00:57:19 But I literally picked every game.

00:57:20 We taped the show on Wednesday, and then on Sunday

00:57:22 I was like, flip it all.

00:57:24 I love the balls.

00:57:26 Do you find yourself putting yourself

00:57:27 in too much of a blender when it comes to gambling?

00:57:29 Oh, every day.

00:57:30 Because it seems like just the one--

00:57:30 Every day.

00:57:31 --thing you talk.

00:57:31 Every day.

00:57:32 Every day.

00:57:33 You can absolutely overthink everything.

00:57:35 It's got to be hell being in that brain sometimes.

00:57:36 It's terrible.

00:57:37 It's terrible.

00:57:38 I've tried everything.

00:57:39 Doesn't work.

00:57:40 Watching him and Dave on the plane

00:57:42 to our college football shows on the weekends,

00:57:43 I mean, you're in a blender just watching them being together.

00:57:45 Yeah, it's like a table of languages.

00:57:46 I'm in a blender on this show.

00:57:47 Yeah.

00:57:47 It's crazy.

00:57:49 Seen a lot of football.

00:57:50 I've lost a lot of ways.

00:57:52 I know some things.

00:57:53 I know some things.

00:57:54 You've seen some things.

00:57:55 Yeah.

00:57:55 You've seen some things.

00:57:56 OK, Taylor, the Titans at the Bucs.

00:57:59 Titans.

00:58:00 Of course.

00:58:01 Titans.

00:58:01 New energy.

00:58:02 First off, this is the game that the Titans are going to lose.

00:58:05 Oh.

00:58:05 And they're not going to cover.

00:58:07 But--

00:58:07 Oh.

00:58:08 Let him cook.

00:58:09 With my heart, I'm going Titans.

00:58:12 But any time in Nashville when the energy is high,

00:58:15 they just said Will Levis is now the starting quarterback.

00:58:18 Ryan Tannella, his time here is dead.

00:58:20 Everyone's like, we got Will Levis.

00:58:21 He's the great white hope.

00:58:23 We're going to win a Super Bowl.

00:58:24 Like, literally, that's what Nashville, Tennessee

00:58:26 is saying right now.

00:58:26 And that is probably the reason why

00:58:28 the Titans are going to lose this game and not cover.

00:58:31 However, I've bought into that.

00:58:33 And so I'm going with the Titans.

00:58:34 Dan?

00:58:36 I would not go with me.

00:58:37 This game is all--

00:58:38 Don't go with me.

00:58:38 No, this game is all an injury to me.

00:58:40 And I don't know, because we tape it on Thursday.

00:58:42 I have no idea what's going to happen.

00:58:44 But I think if Jamelle Dean doesn't play,

00:58:45 then it is the Titans.

00:58:47 I don't know how I can make that pick.

00:58:50 Can I make that pick?

00:58:51 Can I say if Jamelle Dean plays, I'm going to take the Bucs?

00:58:53 Put an asterisk.

00:58:53 I'm literally the only person that's not on the show.

00:58:55 We did that one game, even though there

00:58:58 was no question mark in the air about Deshaun Watson

00:59:00 playing against the 49ers.

00:59:01 Yeah.

00:59:01 But we did do that on that day.

00:59:02 All right, so can I do it?

00:59:03 Can I use mine?

00:59:03 Sure.

00:59:04 Should I do this?

00:59:04 Jamelle Dean plays, I'm taking the Bucs.

00:59:05 Jamelle Dean doesn't play, I'm taking the Titans.

00:59:07 Will?

00:59:08 I like the Bucs.

00:59:08 I just think they have more weapons on offense.

00:59:13 I'm excited about Will Evans and the Titans.

00:59:15 But again, the offensive line, like--

00:59:18 But hold on.

00:59:19 You said the Bucs last week versus Houston.

00:59:21 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

00:59:22 The Chiefs got embarrassed.

00:59:22 That's what I'm saying.

00:59:23 They moved the ball.

00:59:23 When did it start getting embarrassed?

00:59:25 Fourth?

00:59:26 Jamelle Dean got concussed.

00:59:27 Oh.

00:59:28 That was a shot from the hip.

00:59:29 And the Buccaneers--

00:59:30 I really thought Jamelle Dean was a big name.

00:59:32 It literally became like--

00:59:33 It couldn't stop anything.

00:59:35 That's how much I'm--

00:59:36 He's already--

00:59:36 He said, Jamelle Dean.

00:59:37 I went, oh.

00:59:38 I thought, wait.

00:59:38 Don't say anything.

00:59:39 Is this the moment?

00:59:40 Just stay silent.

00:59:40 Is he going to get me in the same show?

00:59:41 He's going to make fun of you.

00:59:42 No, the Bucs' defense, the back half of their defense

00:59:44 is not good.

00:59:46 No, I don't disagree.

00:59:47 I just think that the Bucs have a little bit more on offense.

00:59:50 And I think that Baker Mayfield will play well.

00:59:53 Just like he did against the Texans,

00:59:54 and you do need the Bucs' offense to kind of show up

00:59:56 a little bit.

00:59:57 I think they're going to get Bidevay back.

00:59:59 Bidevay?

00:59:59 Bidevay.

01:00:00 Bidevay, they're getting him back, which will be a big help.

01:00:02 Yeah, it stops all the run.

01:00:03 Todd Bowles is a bad coach.

01:00:05 Mm-hmm.

01:00:05 [LAUGHTER]

01:00:06 You write it.

01:00:07 You write it.

01:00:08 You write it.

01:00:08 [LAUGHTER]

01:00:09 You write it.

01:00:10 I love when Jerry just shouts him down

01:00:11 for little points like that.

01:00:12 OK, Dan--

01:00:13 That decision was crazy last week, not to take the run off.

01:00:15 Yeah.

01:00:16 It was crazy.

01:00:16 Crazy.

01:00:17 Dan, the Giants and the Cowboys.

01:00:19 The Giants obviously got killed last week.

01:00:21 The Cowboys lose to the Eagles in very Dak Prescott type way.

01:00:24 How are you feeling about this?

01:00:25 I hate taking spreads this high, but you can only take the Cowboys.

01:00:29 I mean, Tommy DeVito, poor Tommy DeVito.

01:00:32 Poor Tommy DeVito.

01:00:33 That's all I have to say.

01:00:35 That's my entire analysis of this game is poor Tommy DeVito.

01:00:38 Will?

01:00:38 Yeah.

01:00:39 Cowboys, look, Dallas Cowboys are the worst situational football

01:00:43 team in the last few years.

01:00:46 This will be a situational football game.

01:00:47 They're going to get to play with the lead.

01:00:49 They're good when they're having fun.

01:00:51 I think the horses are going to be eating up the Giants' O-line.

01:00:55 I don't think there's a shot in hell that the Giants went--

01:00:57 there's a little percentage.

01:00:58 I'm not going to say shot in hell.

01:01:00 I'm not going to guarantee.

01:01:00 I know that's where BC kind of flips it.

01:01:02 Dallas to cover minus 16-16.

01:01:04 Do you see what you do?

01:01:06 Yeah.

01:01:06 Oh, no.

01:01:07 Yeah, he puts everybody in the blender.

01:01:09 He also just took a fake spread.

01:01:10 So I'll also take the Cowboys 16 or 16 and 1/2.

01:01:14 What is it now?

01:01:14 It says 17, but I'll take it 16 or 16 and 1/2.

01:01:17 It was 16 and 1/2 yesterday.

01:01:18 We said 16 and 1/2 yesterday.

01:01:19 Let's say 16 and 1/2.

01:01:20 And it may change by game time.

01:01:23 Let's give ourselves 16 and 1/2.

01:01:25 On the paper, it does say 17.

01:01:27 Let's give ourselves 16 and 1/2.

01:01:29 Tom, it's 16 and 1/2.

01:01:30 OK.

01:01:31 Taylor, 16 and 1/2.

01:01:32 Unless you want the Giants, and you could take 17.

01:01:34 No, no.

01:01:34 I'm going to take the Cowboys.

01:01:36 Cowboys are a fraudulent team.

01:01:38 But teams like the Giants, bad teams, is when they feast,

01:01:41 and then they get back where everyone's like,

01:01:43 are the Cowboys back?

01:01:45 And this is going to be that.

01:01:46 They're going to win by more than 16 and 1/2 for Will,

01:01:49 more than 17 for you.

01:01:50 No, I have 16 and 1/2.

01:01:51 You have 16 and 1/2?

01:01:51 Yeah.

01:01:52 So they're going to win by 17 points.

01:01:53 And everyone's going to go, hey, Cowboys, fluke.

01:01:56 49ers, fluke.

01:01:57 Eagles, fluke.

01:01:59 And so they're going to be back.

01:02:00 And now all of a sudden, contenders--

01:02:02 You're saying people are going to say, Cowboys, fluke.

01:02:04 They are one of the best teams.

01:02:05 Yes.

01:02:06 I just think that's what they're known for.

01:02:07 It's like they--

01:02:08 Yeah, that's what they're known for.

01:02:09 But it's games like this, because they feast.

01:02:12 They're not going to be in situational ball.

01:02:13 They're not going to be in a situation in the fourth quarter

01:02:15 where they would lose it for themselves,

01:02:17 like they did against the Eagles last year.

01:02:19 This is the game where they're going to pull away.

01:02:21 They're going to win this game by 21 points.

01:02:22 And then we're going to see everybody the next week

01:02:24 taking hot takes that the Cowboys are

01:02:25 going to win the Super Bowl.

01:02:27 All right.

01:02:27 Will?

01:02:28 You don't-- wait.

01:02:29 I'm just-- 16 and 1/2.

01:02:30 Well, I think if you watched this show last week,

01:02:34 Pretty Boy doesn't know how to get hit in the mouth.

01:02:36 I think our show, we kind of say that Cowboys aren't

01:02:38 going to be like a fluke.

01:02:40 They win this one big.

01:02:41 They'll be a Super Bowl.

01:02:41 That's why people watch the show.

01:02:42 It's the realest show.

01:02:43 I think they're still going down.

01:02:45 If anything, you want to see them win a tough game, which

01:02:47 I don't think they will.

01:02:48 Will, the last game, the Commanders or the Seahawks?

01:02:51 [SILENCE]

01:02:53 When was the last time Washington went to Seattle?

01:02:57 2014.

01:02:58 2017.

01:02:59 They were 8-point underdogs.

01:03:02 I didn't know you knew the answer.

01:03:03 He was a linebacker.

01:03:04 You can look him up.

01:03:06 10 tackles, one pick, three--

01:03:07 I was trying to look at your notes.

01:03:09 That was one of your three?

01:03:11 That was one of the three that--

01:03:12 [LAUGHTER]

01:03:15 We went in, backs against the wall, 8-point dogs.

01:03:18 We came out 17-14 against the 12th man

01:03:20 in the Seattle Seahawks.

01:03:22 Well, 12th man's Texas A&M, but whatever.

01:03:24 Seattle's winning this game.

01:03:25 I think that they cover, but I just

01:03:26 want to throw that set out there.

01:03:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:28 I was going to say, I was hoping you were going to pick the

01:03:29 Commanders because I would have pumped you up.

01:03:30 I would have been like, you know what the difference is?

01:03:32 Will Compton's not on the field.

01:03:34 Will Compton's not playing for the Commanders.

01:03:35 I kind of want to go back and save that.

01:03:36 Hey, three picks.

01:03:36 Difference maker.

01:03:37 I know.

01:03:38 Three more than everybody at this table.

01:03:39 Yeah.

01:03:39 It is true.

01:03:40 All right, Taylor, who are you taking?

01:03:41 Oh, you didn't get any picks?

01:03:43 I got tackles after picks until I got knocked out once,

01:03:45 and then I stopped running after interceptions.

01:03:46 See how the Pro Bowl's rigged.

01:03:47 [LAUGHTER]

01:03:52 I'm going to take Commanders, plus 6 and 1/2.

01:03:54 Sam Howell, last two weeks, 325 yards, 397 yards.

01:03:57 He's getting the ball a lot faster.

01:03:58 He's taking a lot less sacks.

01:04:01 And their last two, Eagles, they put 31 points on the Eagles.

01:04:05 They put 20 points on the Patriots.

01:04:07 They were 1 and 4 in the red zone.

01:04:09 And so you clean up a couple of things there.

01:04:11 I think the Seahawks are coming off

01:04:12 an extremely embarrassing loss.

01:04:15 And I think 6 and 1/2 is a lot of points.

01:04:16 So I think the Commanders covered that.

01:04:18 Dan, you're kind of wincing over there.

01:04:20 Well, it's 6.

01:04:20 He keeps saying 6 and 1/2.

01:04:22 Now he's trying to do it the other way.

01:04:23 6 and 1/2.

01:04:25 Well, this is my notes.

01:04:28 Seahawks for me.

01:04:29 Seahawks for me, they've looked bad.

01:04:32 And then you realize they just had

01:04:33 two games against the two best defenses in the NFL,

01:04:37 the Cleveland Browns and the Baltimore Ravens.

01:04:40 The Commanders are not one of the best defenses in the NFL.

01:04:43 Jack Del Rio going to play some zone.

01:04:45 That's where Gino gets to eat.

01:04:47 I mean, he does play man, but I don't

01:04:49 know if they play it well.

01:04:52 Actually, what's it called?

01:04:56 Zone to-- when you play zone--

01:04:58 do you ever play for Jack Del Rio?

01:05:00 Because he plays zone, and then once your receiver is close to

01:05:03 you, you play man.

01:05:03 That's-- I mean, Gus Bradley's like that with a 3.

01:05:06 Kind of like a match man zone.

01:05:08 It's kind of like a match man cover 3.

01:05:10 Do you play man on one side, zone on the other?

01:05:11 No, you play zone.

01:05:12 And then when the receiver gets close to you,

01:05:14 you play man until the whistle.

01:05:15 Yeah.

01:05:16 Yeah.

01:05:17 Yeah, there's a-- yes.

01:05:18 That's a fun thing to learn.

01:05:19 Yeah.

01:05:19 I mean, you're right.

01:05:20 There's a lot of zone philosophies

01:05:22 that turn into man, like once they start getting in the zone.

01:05:25 Right.

01:05:25 But I think that the base of it starting is zone.

01:05:28 I think Gino sees the field a lot better

01:05:31 when he's playing against zone.

01:05:32 The Browns and the Ravens, I think,

01:05:34 are the number one and number two man coverage

01:05:36 teams in the NFL.

01:05:37 And Gino's terrible against man.

01:05:39 I think the Seahawks are going to eat in this game.

01:05:42 Yeah, I have the Seahawks.

01:05:43 Big.

01:05:44 Yeah.

01:05:44 I agree with you.

01:05:45 Seattle was 4-1, and then they played the AFC North,

01:05:47 which you just alluded to.

01:05:48 And those two teams, their defense--

01:05:50 I was out on Gino Smith on Monday.

01:05:51 I was kind of trashing him.

01:05:52 And then I had to have a little bit of like, hey,

01:05:55 I still am out on Gino Smith, but I'll

01:05:57 be in on him when he plays defenses that can't play

01:06:00 like the Ravens and the Browns.

01:06:01 Yeah.

01:06:02 Dan, Colts or Patriots?

01:06:04 I'm sticking with the Patriots.

01:06:05 I had to circle back.

01:06:06 Are you sticking with the Commanders?

01:06:08 Yeah, I'm going to stay with the Commanders.

01:06:09 And then also, I think this is an over game as well.

01:06:12 Oh, I like that.

01:06:12 I had to see--

01:06:14 Well, Dan--

01:06:14 He's been trying to sneak my stats.

01:06:16 Dan said that he was shooting in a circle.

01:06:17 I had to see like what-- just right off the top of the head.

01:06:19 That was smart.

01:06:20 All right.

01:06:20 He was ready.

01:06:21 He was ready.

01:06:22 We shouldn't have told him that.

01:06:23 No, I think he thought I was going to forget.

01:06:25 But that's who he's going to take now,

01:06:26 because that's what the first thing came to mind.

01:06:28 OK, Dan, three bad opinions.

01:06:30 OK, I'll start with one.

01:06:31 Did you guys bring one?

01:06:32 I'm ready.

01:06:33 OK.

01:06:33 Oh, fuck.

01:06:34 Here's my bad opinion.

01:06:36 I think the Houston Texans are going to beat the Bengals

01:06:38 this week.

01:06:39 I also can't believe that you guys fell

01:06:41 for the Tankdell fake name.

01:06:43 That was crazy.

01:06:44 Are you serious?

01:06:44 I was wondering if you guys--

01:06:46 Was that a fake name?

01:06:47 Golly.

01:06:47 Insane.

01:06:48 What was his name?

01:06:48 Tank.

01:06:49 Tankdell.

01:06:49 No, I don't know.

01:06:50 That's a cool name.

01:06:51 Oh, yeah.

01:06:51 Jerry, did you know he was doing that?

01:06:52 That's exactly what we see here from the Houston Texans

01:06:54 that we don't know about what he did.

01:06:55 Yeah.

01:06:56 Hey, Jerry.

01:06:56 I was like, somebody's got to talk.

01:06:57 I'm like shaking my head like somebody's got to say something.

01:07:00 Did he hit you too?

01:07:00 Yeah, I didn't know who that was.

01:07:01 Jerry.

01:07:02 When did he even drop that name?

01:07:03 I don't even think I was--

01:07:04 During Texans-Bengals.

01:07:05 During Texans-Bengals.

01:07:07 Hey, Jerry.

01:07:08 They fell for it again.

01:07:09 I know.

01:07:09 Tankdell's so good.

01:07:10 Tankdell's real.

01:07:11 What?

01:07:11 He's so good.

01:07:13 He's so good.

01:07:13 I did not know that name.

01:07:14 We got to end this show.

01:07:15 Let's look up Tankdell's stats for the three--

01:07:17 I did not know that name.

01:07:18 So I just--

01:07:19 Yeah.

01:07:19 Like somebody-- I'm shaking my head like, sure?

01:07:22 The problem is I have way too much respect for BC.

01:07:25 They fell for it twice.

01:07:26 Here's the thing is that Jerry--

01:07:29 I'm usually the only one that can hear Jerry before he

01:07:31 actually starts talking on the mic.

01:07:32 And so he was agreeing with Danny immediately.

01:07:34 So I was like, this has to be a real person.

01:07:37 So I'm shaking my head.

01:07:38 And Taylor, like, come on, man.

01:07:39 114 yards, two TDs last week.

01:07:41 Tankdell.

01:07:42 Pretty good.

01:07:43 Yeah.

01:07:43 So you said-- we got--

01:07:45 That's Tankdell.

01:07:46 Game-winning touchdown as well.

01:07:47 His actual name is Nathaniel, which--

01:07:49 good job switching to Tank.

01:07:51 So you said it.

01:07:52 We agreed.

01:07:53 And then you're like, hey, that was a fake name.

01:07:54 And we're like, oh, shit, you got us.

01:07:56 And I was like, no, no, it's actually a real name.

01:07:57 Yeah, it double got you.

01:07:59 You got got.

01:08:00 I got got.

01:08:00 Taylor got got.

01:08:01 I think there's a way to look at this, Will,

01:08:02 where it's kind of like not a real got.

01:08:04 It's a got.

01:08:05 No, it's a double got.

01:08:07 I'm also-- I also should say--

01:08:08 I also should say--

01:08:09 It's like, as long as they want to take the--

01:08:11 they see it, they can take the shot.

01:08:13 I also should say--

01:08:14 Let's just bring it in for a second.

01:08:15 It's a--

01:08:16 I got you.

01:08:17 It's a real name.

01:08:18 We don't know if it's a real name.

01:08:19 It is.

01:08:20 And then we say, eventually he's going

01:08:21 to get us with a fake name.

01:08:22 Then he said it was a fake name.

01:08:24 And then he said it's a fake name.

01:08:25 Yes.

01:08:26 And then said, ha ha, got you.

01:08:28 Again.

01:08:29 But it's not a fake name.

01:08:30 It's not a fake name, which brings us back

01:08:31 to the original thing was where we don't know if you're getting

01:08:34 us or not getting us, was technically

01:08:35 we're still in a gray area.

01:08:36 It's a real name.

01:08:37 It's a real name.

01:08:38 He just showed it to Google.

01:08:38 He just showed it.

01:08:39 I know it's a real name.

01:08:40 No, no, no.

01:08:40 I understand.

01:08:41 But we started with not knowing if it was a real name or not

01:08:43 and refusing to get got, essentially.

01:08:45 Right.

01:08:46 But then I got you.

01:08:47 Because then you said, ah, it is a fake name.

01:08:49 We're actually back in square one with you guys.

01:08:50 There's so much confidence in the way he talks.

01:08:52 But I feel like there's-- we didn't really get got.

01:08:54 I should admit, too--

01:08:55 We are as dumb as everybody thinks.

01:08:57 There's no question.

01:08:58 You guys are playing at a disadvantage today.

01:09:01 Even myself.

01:09:01 I know.

01:09:02 I'm saying, give yourself some work.

01:09:04 Think about it.

01:09:04 You're playing at a disadvantage today

01:09:06 because I am low on sleep.

01:09:07 I'm a little goofy.

01:09:08 I'm a little loopy.

01:09:10 And my four-year-old son, we've been on a real tricking phase

01:09:14 where he's like, I tricked you.

01:09:15 I tricked you.

01:09:16 Like, I'll drive him to school in the morning.

01:09:18 And I'll go around the car to open up the door

01:09:21 and take him out.

01:09:22 And he'll have his eyes closed.

01:09:23 And I'll be like, are you awake?

01:09:24 And he'll be like, tricked you.

01:09:26 So I've been in a little trick--

01:09:27 you know, we've been tricking people.

01:09:28 Been in a tricky move.

01:09:29 We've been tricking people.

01:09:30 He got me, actually, though.

01:09:31 We were running home from T-ball practice.

01:09:34 And he fake fell.

01:09:35 And I was like, oh my god, are you all right?

01:09:36 He popped right back up and beat me.

01:09:38 Did he say tricked you?

01:09:38 Yeah, he tricked me.

01:09:39 Nice.

01:09:39 That's nice.

01:09:40 Yeah, no, I agree with you, Taylor.

01:09:42 I don't think you guys got got.

01:09:43 I have to say, I was happy that on this show,

01:09:45 I'm just the host so that I didn't have to weigh in.

01:09:46 Because if this was a college show,

01:09:47 I would have also gotten roasted for that.

01:09:49 So thank you for giving that up.

01:09:50 Mentally, mentally, we got got.

01:09:53 But I feel like the result on the outside,

01:09:55 we didn't necessarily get got.

01:09:57 No, you got got twice.

01:09:58 Internally, I've been got this whole show.

01:09:59 Twice.

01:10:00 I mean, internally.

01:10:01 Jerry and I were running a little pick and roll.

01:10:02 Jerry was looking at me.

01:10:04 We're passing the ball back.

01:10:05 Yeah, it was phenomenal.

01:10:06 It's also not fair that he's got--

01:10:07 You guys--

01:10:08 Essentially, Dr. Evil and his man.

01:10:09 You know what the problem is?

01:10:10 Sure.

01:10:10 You guys have to come and spend a Sunday in the gambling cave.

01:10:13 Because you'll learn all the names.

01:10:15 Because we bet on all the names.

01:10:17 Every name.

01:10:18 Who did--

01:10:18 There's nothing more fun than doing that game.

01:10:20 And doing like--

01:10:22 Gilliam.

01:10:23 Who's the name he threw out?

01:10:25 I was like, guys.

01:10:25 We bet on a Buffalo Bills tight end because--

01:10:28 Goal line.

01:10:29 Dawson Knox was out.

01:10:30 I texted these guys.

01:10:31 I was like, I'm thinking it's a Gilliam night.

01:10:33 He never-- we were in the third--

01:10:34 Dawson Knox out.

01:10:35 Goal line touchdown.

01:10:36 We were in the third quarter.

01:10:37 I was like, is Gilliam black or white?

01:10:38 I haven't seen him.

01:10:39 We had to look him up.

01:10:40 Bills are on the half yard line.

01:10:41 They come out in 11 person.

01:10:42 Yeah.

01:10:43 I'm like, oh, this--

01:10:43 You learn a lot of names.

01:10:44 You learn a lot of names.

01:10:45 I need to throw names out.

01:10:46 I have blind loyalty.

01:10:48 I go worse with names, too.

01:10:49 I love that everybody behind the camera--

01:10:50 everyone's just shaking their head.

01:10:51 Everybody knows--

01:10:52 You just learn-- names get thrown around

01:10:54 in that gambling cave on Sunday.

01:10:55 Like, who's in your touchdown parlay?

01:10:57 Just throwing names around left and right.

01:10:59 He's betting Kyle Juszczyk to score

01:11:01 touchdowns, like crazy shit.

01:11:03 It's a fun-- yeah, it's fun going.

01:11:05 Yeah.

01:11:05 Are there any--

01:11:06 Tonight will be fun.

01:11:06 Yeah.

01:11:07 Are there any more bad opinions before we move on?

01:11:10 Dabble fired.

01:11:12 Oh.

01:11:13 After a bad loss.

01:11:16 Didn't Clinton Portis say that last week?

01:11:17 Oh, did he say that?

01:11:18 Yeah, but no, I like it because--

01:11:20 They didn't get fired.

01:11:21 He didn't get fired, so Clinton Portis is wrong.

01:11:23 But I like--

01:11:24 You're doubling down on it.

01:11:26 I think you have to fire everyone.

01:11:27 Like, the GM's got to go.

01:11:28 That Daniel Jones contract is going

01:11:30 to be one of the worst ever.

01:11:31 Terrible.

01:11:32 Ever.

01:11:33 He just won coach of the year.

01:11:35 I think-- bad opinion, but we're taking out

01:11:38 the rest of the year ones.

01:11:40 Like, Belichick?

01:11:42 There's rumors if they don't win,

01:11:44 he's not getting on that plane.

01:11:46 He's staying in Germany.

01:11:47 That's what they said.

01:11:47 Leaving him in Germany.

01:11:48 Yeah, his US citizenship will be no longer.

01:11:51 There was someone who got fired on an international game.

01:11:54 That's got to be the worst thing ever.

01:11:55 But I'm saying--

01:11:56 Maybe not.

01:11:56 --for the--

01:11:57 Was it Irving?

01:11:58 But if you're on the plane, it's got to be the worst.

01:12:00 You've got to get the information

01:12:00 before you step on the tarmac.

01:12:01 Right.

01:12:02 I'm saying the end of the year when they go either, what,

01:12:05 4 and 13?

01:12:06 Yeah.

01:12:07 They clean house.

01:12:08 I mean, you got Billy Yo, Patricia, Joe Judge, right?

01:12:12 Yeah.

01:12:13 Belichick, like, that's-- the culture's over.

01:12:16 Yeah, but Northeast?

01:12:18 Very complacent in Boston right now.

01:12:21 He brought him six Super Bowls.

01:12:22 Do they--

01:12:23 Yeah, they're--

01:12:24 He probably got goodwill.

01:12:25 What happens--

01:12:25 Bill Belichick's a guy that resigns.

01:12:27 If they fire Bill Belichick, do you

01:12:29 have to fire Steve Belichick, too?

01:12:31 That would be awkward.

01:12:32 You got to wipe the slate clean.

01:12:34 That would be very funny.

01:12:35 If he didn't get fired.

01:12:37 Hey--

01:12:37 If his son didn't get fired.

01:12:39 Steve, we're going to get our plans.

01:12:40 We haven't done these yet, but we just

01:12:42 want you to know we are going to retain you.

01:12:43 Yeah.

01:12:44 Your dad, gone.

01:12:45 Do you want to do it, or--

01:12:46 Yeah.

01:12:48 You want to give him the bad news?

01:12:49 He says, no, you guys go ahead and do it like it's already--

01:12:51 Yeah.

01:12:52 I'll stay here with you guys.

01:12:53 Yeah, yeah, I got it.

01:12:54 He is the problem.

01:12:56 Good call by you guys.

01:12:58 I've been saying it my whole life.

01:13:00 All right, the Survivor Pool picks,

01:13:02 it's still Dan and Jerry.

01:13:04 Taylor, we restarted the last time you were here.

01:13:06 We started the slate clean, and you picked the wrong team.

01:13:09 You picked the 49ers.

01:13:10 Yeah, $1,000.

01:13:11 So you technically owe either Dan or Jerry $1,000.

01:13:14 It depends on when--

01:13:15 What?

01:13:16 --one of us wins.

01:13:16 Oh, $1,000?

01:13:17 Yeah.

01:13:18 If one of us wins--

01:13:20 Was he here for that?

01:13:21 Yeah, it was Kyle.

01:13:22 It was Kyle.

01:13:23 If one of us wins, whoever's on the show that day

01:13:27 will have to owe us from the guest chair.

01:13:28 So it could still be you.

01:13:30 I have a question.

01:13:31 Yeah.

01:13:32 I think I have a bad opinion.

01:13:33 Does it have to be this week?

01:13:35 Yeah, you can do it.

01:13:36 I was thinking about it too much.

01:13:37 I know, that's what's funny, is we wait till the next segment.

01:13:39 Well, because he said he didn't have one,

01:13:40 so I was like, well, I'm not going to force him to have one.

01:13:43 All right.

01:13:43 I tried to help you out.

01:13:45 Josh Dobbs will be a pro bowler in the next two years.

01:13:49 OK.

01:13:49 Well, voted?

01:13:51 Voted.

01:13:51 No.

01:13:52 That's a bad opinion.

01:13:52 A pro bowler.

01:13:53 No.

01:13:54 Then who the fuck knows?

01:13:56 Mac Jones is a pro bowler.

01:13:57 But is it a bad opinion?

01:13:59 It's a bad opinion that makes you think,

01:14:00 which is the best type of opinion.

01:14:02 Everyone says they're going to go to the pro bowl.

01:14:04 And then you get to--

01:14:05 Tyler Huntley was a pro bowler last year.

01:14:07 Mac Jones.

01:14:09 I mean, that's a two-year bad opinion.

01:14:10 It's kind of--

01:14:12 That's why I asked.

01:14:12 Does it have to be like a this week thing?

01:14:14 That's what we were trying to--

01:14:15 because BC was having a lot, which

01:14:17 we should go back and see if someone--

01:14:18 see how some of those went up.

01:14:19 Yeah.

01:14:20 He wanted to interject his bad opinion.

01:14:22 I mean, it's a good shot.

01:14:25 Bad opinion.

01:14:27 So I answered the call.

01:14:28 Well, was it a bad, bad opinion?

01:14:30 You did it.

01:14:30 I did it.

01:14:31 You crushed it.

01:14:32 I'm proud of that.

01:14:33 It's a bad, bad opinion?

01:14:34 It's a bad, bad opinion?

01:14:35 I would have loved to hear him say,

01:14:37 somebody gets traded now that the deadline's over.

01:14:40 Yeah, but that would be an opinion that doesn't exist.

01:14:44 An opinion that can't exist.

01:14:45 Yeah.

01:14:46 Survivor picks.

01:14:47 Survivor picks.

01:14:48 OK.

01:14:48 So Jerry and Dan are still alive.

01:14:51 Jerry, I always ask you, do you want to go first or second?

01:14:54 You want to go first this time, OK?

01:14:55 Cowboys.

01:14:56 Well, I could take the Cowboys too.

01:14:58 You could, if you want to.

01:14:59 But then if that happens, then who gets the money?

01:15:02 I mean, last week, you took an 8 and 1/2 point favor,

01:15:04 and I took like a 2 and 1/2, 3.

01:15:09 What are you trying to say?

01:15:10 You see that little arm motion?

01:15:11 I'm sorry.

01:15:11 That arm motion means, hey--

01:15:12 I took a risk last week.

01:15:13 Hey, now you take the risk.

01:15:14 I take the--

01:15:15 Exactly.

01:15:16 Well, some would say that I took a risk because we're

01:15:18 playing Survivor Pool for $1,000,

01:15:21 and I just loaned you $15,000.

01:15:23 Oh, gosh.

01:15:24 That's true.

01:15:25 You're bringing a bank statement to me now?

01:15:27 Well, he said to me the other day,

01:15:28 he's like, what if I win Survivor League,

01:15:30 or the Survivor Pool?

01:15:31 We just cut that off my--

01:15:32 what I owe you?

01:15:33 I was like, I guess.

01:15:35 Cut it off the top.

01:15:36 Every time I'm here, there's multiple stories about Dan

01:15:38 giving you money.

01:15:40 Yeah.

01:15:40 What's the deal, Jerry?

01:15:42 I'm happy to do it, by the way.

01:15:43 Every time--

01:15:44 Let's hash this one out.

01:15:45 No, this is not--

01:15:46 I'm not saying that--

01:15:48 Jerry was like, hey, the interest rates on my credit

01:15:51 cards is insane.

01:15:51 I want to pay it off.

01:15:52 I was like, yeah, no problem.

01:15:53 That was it.

01:15:54 That was it. Right, right.

01:15:55 That was it.

01:15:56 But now, he's trying to shame me out of picks for $1,000,

01:16:00 when it's like, well, you--

01:16:01 You just got to remind him.

01:16:02 You got to-- you're playing with my money right now.

01:16:04 You're playing with my money.

01:16:06 You want me to say-- he hasn't even said his pick.

01:16:07 Just let him say his pick.

01:16:08 No, you're playing with my money.

01:16:09 No, no, you don't have to switch it.

01:16:10 I'll switch.

01:16:10 No, you don't have to switch it.

01:16:11 No, no, no.

01:16:12 No, no, you don't have to switch it.

01:16:13 Did you know he was going to take the Cowboys?

01:16:15 Yeah, he knew.

01:16:16 Jerry.

01:16:19 The man just gave you $15,000.

01:16:21 This is a game, Casey.

01:16:24 No, I might take the Bills.

01:16:26 No.

01:16:27 Go Bills.

01:16:28 Yeah, of course.

01:16:29 I took them in the last Survivor pick, right?

01:16:31 Go Bills.

01:16:31 I think you took the 49ers.

01:16:33 I got to pick.

01:16:33 I took the 49ers in the last--

01:16:34 I got to pick.

01:16:35 I know what he's going to do.

01:16:36 Go Niners.

01:16:36 I got to pick.

01:16:37 I know what he's going to do.

01:16:37 I already know.

01:16:38 Oh, no.

01:16:38 What do you think I'm going to do?

01:16:39 You're going to go Bears?

01:16:40 I know what you're going to do.

01:16:41 What do you think I'm going to do?

01:16:41 You're going to take the Packers.

01:16:42 I know what he's going to do.

01:16:42 He's going to take the Packers.

01:16:43 He's going to take the Packers.

01:16:43 No.

01:16:44 Oh.

01:16:45 I thought so too, Jerry.

01:16:46 I'm taking the Bears.

01:16:47 We'll find out on--

01:16:48 Oh, no.

01:16:49 --when we watch this Friday night.

01:16:50 I'm taking the Bears.

01:16:51 By the time this airs, we'll know.

01:16:53 Now that's a risk.

01:16:54 That is a risk.

01:16:55 You called me out.

01:16:56 I'll take the Bears.

01:16:58 They're not losing tonight.

01:16:59 They are not losing tonight.

01:17:01 Clip that.

01:17:02 How much are you willing to bet on that?

01:17:03 Well, I already bet 20 grand on it.

01:17:04 No, you didn't.

01:17:05 And apparently, 15K over there too.

01:17:07 Jerry, you're in on the Bears?

01:17:09 Me?

01:17:09 I'll ride with Dan.

01:17:11 Yeah, I'm ready to--

01:17:12 50.

01:17:12 No.

01:17:13 No, 15.

01:17:14 Yeah, I'm ready to shrep it.

01:17:15 No.

01:17:16 Minus three.

01:17:17 You're going to put his loan on it?

01:17:17 We're going to get really special milkshakes.

01:17:19 Yeah.

01:17:19 And we're going to cook up a nice part of lunch.

01:17:21 I can't afford 15.

01:17:22 I'm 15 down right now.

01:17:24 Ain't no.

01:17:25 No, Jerry, you're fine, Jerry.

01:17:27 You're good.

01:17:28 Your money's good with me.

01:17:29 I'll ride the Bears though tonight.

01:17:31 You're just rolling that man's--

01:17:33 Yeah, no.

01:17:34 You thought you were making a move,

01:17:36 and then I just fucking slapped my hand on it.

01:17:38 It's a big play from you.

01:17:39 Yeah, and then if the Bears lose,

01:17:40 everyone's going to watch this and be like,

01:17:42 this is the dumbest segment ever.

01:17:44 OK, but here's my question too.

01:17:45 If you win, does Jerry owe you 16?

01:17:49 Yeah.

01:17:50 Yeah.

01:17:50 OK.

01:17:51 Yeah.

01:17:51 Wait, if I lose?

01:17:52 Yeah, if I win and you lose.

01:17:54 If Dan wins, then the loan--

01:17:55 Of course.

01:17:56 You add to the loan.

01:17:57 You add to the tab.

01:17:58 OK.

01:17:59 We're good.

01:17:59 We're just in real life territory.

01:18:01 Now it's not just a game.

01:18:02 It's just real life.

01:18:03 Yeah, real life is into the survivor game now.

01:18:06 Yes.

01:18:06 And by the time this airs, we'll know if real life

01:18:09 is happening for Jerry or not.

01:18:10 Well, also, I should clarify, because I assume people

01:18:13 watch Advisors before this.

01:18:14 This isn't something I'm just saying out loud.

01:18:16 Jerry and I had the loan discussion on Advisors last

01:18:19 week, so it was content from the beginning.

01:18:21 Yes.

01:18:21 I assumed you wouldn't actually see that kind of story once.

01:18:23 It's content, because I know if Jerry was like,

01:18:26 I'm in a really bad spot.

01:18:28 I need 15K.

01:18:28 Correct.

01:18:29 And I'm like, don't say anything.

01:18:30 I would never say anything.

01:18:31 Yeah, I don't care.

01:18:32 Credit cards, that makes sense.

01:18:34 I'd rather him pay me back slowly

01:18:36 than have to fucking get jammed up by a bank.

01:18:39 Fuck the banks.

01:18:40 Absolutely.

01:18:40 Fuck the banks.

01:18:41 Fuck the banks.

01:18:41 That's my bank.

01:18:42 Yeah.

01:18:42 Fuck the banks.

01:18:42 That's my bank.

01:18:43 The bank's right here.

01:18:43 Yeah, no, like actual real life shit.

01:18:45 Yeah, no, if he said it--

01:18:46 But this is like real life.

01:18:48 That's content.

01:18:49 Right, if he needed it and was like, I need it,

01:18:51 and you can't ask any questions, like, no problem.

01:18:53 Won't say anything.

01:18:54 But yeah, fuck the banks.

01:18:55 Fuck the banks.

01:18:56 This is us showing that we can say, fuck the banks,

01:18:59 take the power back.

01:19:01 Yeah, fuck the man.

01:19:02 Power's back to the people.

01:19:03 Fuck the banks.

01:19:04 Exactly.

01:19:04 There you go.

01:19:05 All right, anything else, guys?

01:19:07 No.

01:19:07 Great show.

01:19:08 That's a good thing.

01:19:08 That's a great finish.

01:19:09 Fuck the banks.

01:19:10 Fuck the banks.

01:19:11 We've got college football to argue about anyway.

01:19:12 So enjoy your NFL weekend.

01:19:14 We'll see you next week.

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