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00:45We have a very special guest, Kyle Rudolph.
00:47First time.
00:49Kyle, thank you for being here with the boys.
00:51I know they're excited to talk football with you.
00:52Thanks for having me.
00:53Excited to be here.
00:54Long time stoolie.
00:56Did you guys ever go up against each other?
00:58Twice.
00:59And?
01:00One-on-one.
01:01But what were his stats?
01:03I think, not that I know, but I think five receptions.
01:0880 yards.
01:09I think he had one touchdown.
01:12And then a second, actually, yeah, I believe he did score.
01:17They were known for, I think, Bradford was a quarterback one year, yeah?
01:21Yeah.
01:22So Sam was with us 16.
01:26Yeah, that was the year.
01:27One of my last touchdowns of my career was no one was in the stadium.
01:31Vikings, Titans, COVID year, just weird.
01:35Yeah.
01:36But they would have this thing going in.
01:38Once they got around the fringe area, they had a tendency to where if they're doing a bazooka,
01:44it would be a screen.
01:46But that game, it went to a fake screen, and then he went up the sideline.
01:50Oh.
01:52You got faked?
01:53Yeah, I got faked.
01:53Oh, no.
01:54Was it like a bad fake too?
01:56Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:57Was it embarrassing?
01:58Like you were yelling screen, you were yelling screen, yeah.
02:01And coach was like, what are you?
02:02You got to take advantage of the smart players.
02:04Like we knew a guy like Will, if you're going to play 10 years in the NFL with that athleticism,
02:09he's going to be smart.
02:09He's going to know our signals.
02:10That's true.
02:12We had to change it up on him.
02:14What are you doing?
02:15It's man to man.
02:16And I'm like, he did the bazooka shot.
02:19It was a screen.
02:19Sometimes you got to have calculated guesses when you're playing like yourself.
02:23Oh, no.
02:23Before the show, Dan, you said that you have a lesson to teach Will.
02:26Bad news.
02:27Yeah, bad news for us.
02:29So we had a great week.
02:30I went nine.
02:31You had a few good weeks in a row.
02:32Yeah, nine and five.
02:33Will went nine and four.
02:34Delaney went 10 and three.
02:36You feeling good?
02:37You feel good?
02:38I feel great.
02:39So the problem with last week is we all killed it.
02:43And then what is the worst thing in gambling is I had a great weekend,
02:48both on the show, off the show, everything.
02:51And then Monday comes, and they're like, yeah, Vegas had the worst week of their,
02:56like, in the last 20 years.
02:58Every sucker won money last weekend.
03:00And I was like, God damn it.
03:01That was me.
03:02So that means this week's going to be hard on us.
03:04No false confidence.
03:05Yeah, yeah.
03:06Basically, there's nothing worse than having an awesome week and thinking you figure out
03:10the NFL.
03:10And then they're like, yeah, it turns out every fucking idiot in America won money last week.
03:15That's what happened.
03:16We're seeing the board clear.
03:18We're not.
03:18That's the problem.
03:19It's a reset.
03:20It's basically this week is a trap game.
03:23This week is coming off a big win and being like, we've got it figured out.
03:27We know how this league works.
03:29And it's going to fucking bite us in the ass if we're not careful.
03:31OK.
03:32That's the big thing.
03:33And Kyle, just so you know, everybody that sits in that seat, it's a collective effort.
03:37So even if you have a bad week, it's probably not your fault.
03:40Because people have had bad weeks before you.
03:41If you have a great week, then we'll absolutely say it's all to your credit.
03:43Yes, yes.
03:44That's how it works.
03:45Sounds like Delaney had 10 and 3.
03:46So I think the 3 and 10 are still 500.
03:49We have a tight end one right now.
03:54There was a game earlier this year.
03:56You know, obviously you guys mentioned it.
03:58Got a lot of my playing weight off.
03:59I was third string on the Vikings wide receiver depth chart on the ESPN app.
04:04So clearly I've shifted to Justin Jefferson's backups backup.
04:10What are you weighing right now?
04:12About 225.
04:13So this is what I weighed like throughout high school.
04:17I went to Notre Dame.
04:18You know how college football is.
04:19We'll get you as big as possible.
04:21Protein shakes during the lift.
04:23Literally.
04:23Like 45 grams of sugar, whatever.
04:26Yeah.
04:26Drink this chocolate milk.
04:27Like a regular day to me.
04:28Drink this weight gainer.
04:29Drink that chocolate milk for sure.
04:30I played a majority of my career at like 265.
04:34And then gave myself like a year after football.
04:37Kind of just eat, drink, whatever you want.
04:40Hang out.
04:40Go to Bahama.
04:41Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:42Put down some cocktails there.
04:45And I got to like 270, 275.
04:48And then I've lost 50.
04:50Okay.
04:51Was it a moment where you just you were naked looking in the mirror being like,
04:53I got to do something?
04:54Oh, you know those things.
04:57Yeah, yeah.
04:58Before you see a picture, you're like, damn.
05:00Yeah.
05:01All right, get it together.
05:02I need to buckle it up a little bit.
05:04You know, for me, it was really just you're regimented like your whole life as an athlete.
05:07And so I gave myself like a year.
05:10Had a knee surgery that I had to get cleaned up from the last year that I played.
05:14And it was like, all right, let's go.
05:15Time to get it off.
05:16Damn.
05:16You look phenomenal.
05:18Some people said you look like a bitch.
05:20So, so light.
05:21Not me.
05:22I actually said that.
05:22No, no, you didn't say that.
05:23No, I said he might, he might.
05:25Yeah.
05:25You alluded to that.
05:26Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:26You didn't say that.
05:27But it's bullshit that you guys can just like be, you know, like, oh, yeah.
05:30Like Taylor did the same thing where it's like, yeah, it's 300 pounds.
05:32And then boom.
05:33I'm like in the best shape of my life.
05:35Yeah.
05:36Fucking bullshit.
05:37It honestly is.
05:38It is bullshit.
05:39Yeah.
05:39Jerry, how are you doing?
05:40I feel good.
05:41Yeah.
05:41Seeing the board clear this week.
05:43You're seeing the board clear?
05:44Really clear.
05:45Yeah.
05:45Oh, yeah, Jerry?
05:46Oh, yeah.
05:47Okay.
05:47Okay.
05:48Well, then let's get into it.
05:49Jerry's seeing the board clear.
05:50And Dan, this is like one of those weeks that it's a trap game.
05:52It's a trap game.
05:54Okay.
05:54You gotta watch out for the pitfalls.
05:55All right.
05:56Storyline games of the week presented by the Chevy Silverado.
05:58We will start with the Lions at the Vikings.
06:00The Vikings minus one and a half.
06:01I'm gonna do something I never do.
06:02I'm gonna start with the guests.
06:03Yes.
06:04Start with Kyle, obviously a two-time pro bowler with the Vikings.
06:07So how are you feeling about this game against the Lions?
06:11I'm excited about it.
06:13It's a big one.
06:14Vikings coming off the bye.
06:15They were over in London.
06:17We were talking about the 2016 season earlier.
06:20We're going to try to not replicate that year.
06:22That was the five and oh, missed the playoffs.
06:24Five and oh, went on the bye week and came back and finished three and eight.
06:27Almost impossible.
06:29Almost impossible to miss the playoffs.
06:31One of those four losses were to Will in the Washington.
06:36Then Redskins at the time.
06:3826-0.
06:3926-20.
06:40My fault.
06:41It was a bad, bad year.
06:43That is a wildly different.
06:45Wait, so then, all right.
06:46So this is perfect.
06:47We scored 20.
06:48So coming off the bye week five and oh, how good do you feel?
06:52Like you got to feel like we got this figured out.
06:55I think the difference between that year and this year was like
06:58we didn't have it figured out at five and oh.
07:00Like we were not very good on offense.
07:01We were scoring touchdowns on defense and special teams.
07:04Not sustainable.
07:06Yeah.
07:06Torres, you know, I like this Vikings team.
07:08I think on offense, Kevin gives Sam like, hey, you've got playmakers everywhere.
07:16Aaron Jones is a huge X factor.
07:18Getting him involved.
07:19He's got to play this week.
07:21I don't love that they just traded for a back that can like come in and play right away.
07:26The last game he played was at US Bank Stadium.
07:28Yeah.
07:28So it's like he can come in and play right away.
07:30I would hope that Aaron's healthy and he can play because I think he gives that offense
07:37an X factor that it hasn't had the last couple years.
07:39Yeah.
07:40Kevin O'Connell would throw it every time if you'd let him,
07:43which is not good for Sam Darnold.
07:45Yeah.
07:45He's got to have that back in the backfield.
07:47So I think the best part of that matchup is on the other side of the ball.
07:52I think it's Brian Flores' defense against Ben Johnson.
07:55Yep.
07:55Number one offense in the league.
07:58And I've played against Flores' defenses.
08:01They suck.
08:02Like.
08:03Why?
08:03It's just, he gets matchups.
08:06You know, you think about like all the guys that had high production
08:09sack-wise in New England.
08:10He just moved them around.
08:11Like I remember he had Flowers, I think was the defensive end there.
08:17And like we played in New England.
08:18He just like put Flowers over our center and it was like one-on-one.
08:21And like he sacked Kirk like four times.
08:24Yeah.
08:24Just like, all right, this isn't going to work.
08:26Yeah.
08:27So I'm excited to watch that.
08:29It gives quarterbacks problems.
08:31Jared Goff's playing at a high level, but it's not an easy defense to play against.
08:38So I like our chances.
08:39I think this Minnesota 5-0 team is way different.
08:42Yeah.
08:43Will, you've been high on the Vikings.
08:45Yeah.
08:45Yeah.
08:46And I'm sticking with the Vikings this week.
08:48I truly, I hate it.
08:49I feel like everything says that the Lions are going to beat their ass.
08:52I don't know why.
08:53Like the Vikings do have one of the best defenses, if not the best defense in the NFL.
08:59Detroit has a great defense as well.
09:01But even when you look at the data of rest advantage,
09:05Vikings are three and five coming off rest advantage.
09:08Eight and 11 in divisional games.
09:10And I feel like this is such a high-stakes game.
09:12I feel like this is one where they, I can easily see them losing,
09:16but I'm riding with the Vikings, even though I hate it.
09:18Yeah.
09:18I hate it.
09:19I'll go, I'm going with the Vikings as well.
09:21I'm going to go more emotional angle here.
09:24That game against the Cowboys, you could tell that that meant so much to the Lions.
09:28They were emptying the playbook.
09:30They had like four different plays where they were trying to get an offensive lineman,
09:33a touchdown.
09:34Amazing.
09:35That was a game they have had circled since the schedule came out.
09:39They absolutely killed the Cowboys.
09:42But then you have the emotional letdown of that.
09:44And then the emotional letdown of Aiden Hutchinson going out for the year, which I don't,
09:48like he was the best defensive player in NFL through five games, six games.
09:54That's a fact, Jerry.
09:56You can look at his stats.
09:57Who?
09:57Aiden Hutchinson.
09:59He was leading the league in basically everything.
10:01But I think it's more, I think it's, I hate him.
10:05I think it's more the emotional letdown of losing a guy like that because not only is
10:10he the best player on that defense, but he's the heart and soul of that defense and everyone
10:13goes off of him.
10:14So I think the Lions will be okay long-term, but I think this is a bad spot for them, especially
10:19with the Vikings coming off a bye.
10:21So I'm taking the Vikings as well.
10:23Vikings across the board.
10:24Vikings across the board.
10:25They are 5-0 against the spread this season.
10:27So that is good for the good vibes.
10:30All right, the Texans at the Packers.
10:31The Packers minus three.
10:33Will, I will start with you.
10:34Texans win last week.
10:36Packers win last week.
10:37How are you feeling about this matchup?
10:39It's going to be a great matchup.
10:40I like the Packers.
10:42They're wearing their all-whites.
10:43I hate those uniforms.
10:45You hate them?
10:46I hate those uniforms.
10:47They're wearing the all-whites.
10:48No, I think they look bad.
10:50I'm going to say something nice about the Packers.
10:51The Packers have classic, just great football uniforms.
10:56That's their color scheme, everything.
10:58That is football, right?
10:59Vince Lombardi, that's football.
11:01You don't mess with that if you have that.
11:03The throwback uniforms and the alternate uniforms,
11:06that's a Titans.
11:07That's a Texans.
11:08That's a Jaguars.
11:09That's a Panthers thing.
11:11That's not a Packers thing.
11:12I hate it.
11:13It's a great point.
11:14I hate it.
11:14When you're on the team and you wear the same uniform over and over and over,
11:18and then you get something like some crispy all-whites,
11:20you know the boys are going to be hyping the locker room.
11:22I hate it.
11:22That they get to wear something different.
11:24I agree with that.
11:25But I just think that they shouldn't be doing these types.
11:28It's below the Packers.
11:29Again, I'm complimenting the Packers when I say this.
11:31It's below the Green Bay Packers to be resorting to these type of gimmicks.
11:36Kyle, do you agree with from a player standpoint,
11:38they getting to change it up?
11:39Like if you were at Notre Dame.
11:41So they've taken it a step further.
11:45In the past, they'll just throw the white pants on,
11:48still keep the yellow helmet.
11:49And it is.
11:50It's like, it's cool.
11:51You get to mix it up a little bit.
11:53Now you're throwing in the alternate helmet as well.
11:55They're going full all-white.
11:57Did you ever get to wear one at Notre Dame?
11:59Nope.
12:00We did not have.
12:01We were the Green Bay Packers of college.
12:03And how hyped would you have been with those?
12:06You never did the Joe Montana?
12:08No, never had a green.
12:09Nope, never had a green.
12:11Never had a shamrock series.
12:12Now they do the shamrock series like once a year.
12:14How hyped would you have been to get that?
12:16So hyped.
12:17That's the difference between watching versus playing.
12:20I'm just saying from like,
12:21I think it's disgusting by the Packers organization.
12:24That's all I'm saying.
12:24And it's also like an emotional thing.
12:26Like when you guys talk about uniforms a lot when you're gambling.
12:28So it's just like a bad sign.
12:29No, it could be good for the Packers players.
12:31Like these guys are saying,
12:32it gives you a little extra juice in the locker room.
12:34I'm just, again, I'm saying the Packers as a franchise,
12:37it's a disgusting act.
12:39And like they should probably just pack it all in
12:40if they're going to do this.
12:42Because they're just not playing.
12:44It's gross.
12:44So are you taking the Texans?
12:48I'm taking the Packers.
12:49I said it last week.
12:50Jordan Love feels like he's fully healthy now.
12:52You saw it.
12:53As soon as he got fully healthy,
12:54the first two weeks he came back,
12:56he wasn't, I think he wasn't really trusting his knee.
12:58A lot of shotgun.
12:59Now he's back under center.
13:00Like those, that's where their offense just goes nuclear.
13:04When he's under center and he's doing play action
13:06and he's hitting Christian Watson deep.
13:08And I don't know how,
13:09I don't know what's going on with the Packers,
13:11but like all their wide receivers just got healthy.
13:13Like Christian Watson was going to be out forever.
13:15And then he's just like, I'm back.
13:16I'm scoring touchdowns.
13:17So I think this is going to be the biggest,
13:20a very tough matchup for the Texans.
13:21And without Niko Collins,
13:23they struggle like being consistent on offense.
13:27I know they just killed the Patriots,
13:28but I'm going to take the Packers at home.
13:30But to your point with the consistencies too,
13:32it's like, I want to say the Houston Texans offensive line
13:34or their offense is one of the more penalized teams.
13:36Oh yeah.
13:37Laramie Tunsil.
13:37Laramie Tunsil has like 12 on the year, I believe.
13:40So that's-
13:40That Vikings game, I think he had four in a row.
13:43Yeah.
13:43And the Packers are a line.
13:44I want to say they didn't give up any sacks.
13:46Yeah, no, they're good.
13:46It's going to come down to the, you know,
13:47the offensive line, who blocks better.
13:49And I do, I like the Packers in this,
13:50especially being at home.
13:51Kyle?
13:52I'm going to go against the grain.
13:53I'm going to take Houston.
13:55Their only loss of the year was on the road
13:57in the NFC North to the Vikings.
14:00I think on offense with Niko Collins out,
14:05Diggs has got to step up.
14:07I mean, you traded for him for a reason.
14:09You brought him to Houston.
14:11Tank Dell, Joe Mixon.
14:13Joe Mixon's a baller.
14:14Yeah.
14:15Like, he's such a baller at running back.
14:16He can catch the ball in the backfield.
14:18So I look at those three guys to step up big,
14:20to, you know, make up for the loss that they have
14:23in losing the top performing receiver in the NFL right now.
14:26And then the other one was D'Amico Ryan.
14:28Like, just his familiarity with that system on offense.
14:33Played in Houston his whole career.
14:35It's Gary Kuviak, Kyle Shanahan.
14:38It's that offense.
14:39He coached with Shanahan in San Francisco.
14:42That's a little floor system that they're running there
14:44in Green Bay.
14:45And I think Houston gets the win on the road.
14:47Okay.
14:48Okay.
14:48Jerry, I know you said you're seeing the board clearly.
14:50What do you think?
14:51I like the Packers here.
14:52I do.
14:52One thing that I don't know about you guys,
14:54but it's kind of been pissing me off lately.
14:57Stroud after the game,
14:58just trying to big bro the other quarterbacks.
15:00I mean, that's bothering me.
15:02Have you seen these clips, Dan?
15:03Yeah, I know.
15:03He tried to big bro Caleb Wood.
15:05Yeah, like, I don't like that.
15:06Like, you're not a veteran.
15:08You haven't been in the league for 10 years.
15:10If Russ was doing that, I get that.
15:12But a guy like Stroud...
15:13Comes back to Russ.
15:14Yeah.
15:14But a guy like Stroud, I mean,
15:15just trying to big bro everybody
15:16and everybody in the comments,
15:17like, oh, he's just doing that
15:19because he's spreading positivity.
15:21No, no, you're not.
15:22Love is going to body them this game.
15:24Okay.
15:24I think the Packers scored 35 on them.
15:27I thought it was crazy.
15:27D'Amico said that Jordan Love's
15:29the best quarterback that they faced this year.
15:31And they played the Bills.
15:32And they played Josh Allen.
15:33I know, that was very weird.
15:34Was that like a lapse, maybe?
15:35I think so.
15:37Like, he doesn't actually think that.
15:39I mean, Jordan Love's very, very good,
15:40but Josh Allen is the second
15:42best quarterback in the NFL.
15:43That had to have been just,
15:43he wasn't thinking fully when he said that.
15:45Yeah, he probably forgot.
15:46I think 2-D?
15:47Yeah.
15:47What?
15:48Internally, maybe?
15:49You know, getting the guys, like, hype.
15:50Who was he on?
15:51Patrick Holmes.
15:53Just based on this year or career?
15:55No, I'm saying if you started a franchise tomorrow,
15:57no contracts matter, nothing.
15:59I think Patrick Holmes goes one.
16:00I think Josh Allen goes two.
16:03Who would you put it to?
16:06Do you guys disagree with that?
16:08He would put Jordan Love.
16:09You would put Jordan Love at two?
16:11Yeah.
16:11No.
16:12That's stupid, Jerry.
16:13Goff's in my top five.
16:15I love Jerry.
16:15Yeah.
16:16He's been playing incredible.
16:16I love Jerry Goff.
16:17He's been in my top five.
16:18I love Jerry Goff.
16:19I feel like Love just isn't in the two slot
16:21just because of, like, the lack of resume.
16:24Yeah.
16:24Well, but, you know.
16:25It's the same thing as C.J. Schrapp.
16:26He's been incredible, but it's been a year.
16:28Right.
16:28Where would you put Joe Burrow?
16:30I mean, he's having a hell of a year.
16:31Yeah, no, I'd probably put Joe Burrow
16:33somewhere in the...
16:354-5, Dan?
16:36Yeah, probably Lamar 3.
16:38Yeah, I agree.
16:39And Joe somewhere 4-5.
16:40Love is not in your top five, Dan?
16:44No.
16:44I know he's a packer, but...
16:45No, probably not.
16:46Probably not.
16:47Yeah.
16:48I think what scares me with Joe is just his health.
16:50Yeah.
16:50Yeah.
16:51But he has been playing bonkers.
16:52Like, they've not won very many games,
16:54but he's been crazy.
16:55Yeah.
16:55All right, let's go to the Jerry's Picking Zoo,
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17:15We have a new animal this week
17:16because Cosmo the panda dog lost.
17:19So let's...
17:20I've heard this is great, Jerry.
17:21I've heard that this video is...
17:23I have a phobia of this animal.
17:25You have a phobia of the upcoming animal?
17:27Yeah.
17:27Okay, well, let's roll it.
17:30All right, welcome back.
17:31Pro Football Football Show Week 7,
17:34Jerry's Picking Zoo.
17:37We had Osmo.
17:39He was a winner, but then he lost.
17:41We had Cosmo, the gambling panda.
17:43He was a winner, but then he lost.
17:46So what did we do?
17:46Oh.
17:47We went back, we went back, we went...
17:49See, see, that's what I mean, Tom.
17:50We went back to the well.
17:52I know people watching,
17:53Jerry, why are you holding the leash like that?
17:54I got a phobia of sand,
17:56and I have a phobia of cats.
17:58But Mika the cat, she's completely off the leash now.
18:02Completely off the leash.
18:04She's...
18:04Tom, what do I do?
18:05Just tell her to pick a game.
18:06Mika, pick a game.
18:07San Fran or Kansas City, you pick.
18:10Pick a game.
18:10Treats.
18:11Okay.
18:12Okay.
18:12Oh, she's on.
18:13Okay.
18:15She's on it.
18:15Here, here.
18:16Mika, Mika, Mika, Mika.
18:19Mika, come on.
18:20Come here, Mika.
18:26This could be good.
18:27She could be thinking about the game in depth right now.
18:30This might be a no bet.
18:32Game's too close.
18:35Oh.
18:37Kansas City.
18:37Kansas City.
18:37All right, we got Kansas City.
18:40You know it took a long time, but that's not her fault.
18:43First time in a new environment.
18:44We'll get closer.
18:45We'll become friends.
18:46Think about it a little differently.
18:47Mika.
18:47It makes him seem sweet.
18:49It makes him seem sweet.
18:50Yeah, but I guess once you learn that,
18:52it's kind of like, okay, that kind of makes sense.
18:53Yeah, it kind of goes with everything else.
18:55The guy seems like a cat guy.
18:56Yeah.
18:56Running around the room and whatnot.
18:59So she thought about this game in depth.
19:01It's always been the Chiefs.
19:02Book it.
19:03He just said it's always been the Chiefs.
19:04Okay.
19:05She took a little bit to make the actual point.
19:06Okay, okay.
19:07Yeah, Tom being a cat guy, it surprised me a little bit,
19:10but I think it shows his softer side.
19:12Sure.
19:14I would just rather have a dog.
19:15I'd rather have a dog too.
19:16I'd rather have a dog, but.
19:17I'm more of a dog guy.
19:18More of a dog guy.
19:20And then Jerry has a phobia of cats.
19:22Yeah, I've always been scared of cats.
19:24I remember I was like, maybe like 10 years old at the time.
19:28And my first memory of being scared of cats was
19:32I heard like this screaming outside.
19:34I thought somebody was getting murdered.
19:36And I opened my basement door.
19:39I go outside, two cats in the middle of the street
19:42going at each other.
19:43Yeah.
19:45Like all that.
19:46Why would that scare you?
19:47Because they're vicious.
19:48I've never seen a dog do that.
19:51I've seen a dog fight bad ones.
19:52In person like that?
19:53Yes.
19:54I've seen bad ones.
19:54Really?
19:55Yeah.
19:55Jerry's a full bully.
19:57Jerry's a full dog.
19:58Like even dogs are kind of scared of cats.
20:00You know what I mean?
20:00Well, that's because cats are smarter than everybody.
20:02Like cats are smarter than us.
20:04Tom said he can leave the cat for like three days if he wanted.
20:08Yeah.
20:08No, I've always said like we have kids.
20:10You have to potty train a kid.
20:12You don't have to potty train a cat.
20:14They're too smart.
20:15They are way too smart.
20:16But she picked the Chiefs.
20:18So the game of the week presented by the Chevy Silverado is the Chiefs at the 49ers.
20:21Dan, the 49ers minus one and a half.
20:23Are you riding with Mika the cat?
20:24I'm not.
20:26This is a game that I'm probably walking into a huge trap
20:30because it's Andy Reid off a bye, 21 and 4.
20:34All time off a bye.
20:35Patrick Mahomes as an underdog.
20:38He's 10 and 3 straight up as an underdog.
20:41But with all that said, I just feel like there might be no stat to back this up.
20:47When you have the Super Bowl rematch, like the 49ers are going to want,
20:50they've had this game circled.
20:51They were washing tape of the Super Bowl this week.
20:54Kyle Shanahan was talking about PTSD.
20:57I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing.
20:58But I think the 49ers are going to win this game.
21:03It's like a hungry dog kind of situation where it's like,
21:06Chiefs are 5-0.
21:07This game matters, but it's not a be-all, end-all.
21:1049ers, they beat you twice in the Super Bowl.
21:13And it's still sitting there.
21:14And you were a play away last year.
21:17So I think the 49ers are going to win this game.
21:18Kyle, this is the first time this season that the Chiefs have been an underdog.
21:22Does that play into this for you at all?
21:24No, it doesn't.
21:25I'm going with the Chiefs.
21:27The Andy Reid coming off a bye thing is huge.
21:30Also, Mahomes.
21:31I think Pat's 5-0 coming off a bye going against a team that isn't coming off one.
21:35Although you could say San Fran had a little bit of a mini-bye.
21:39I think it's a huge game for the 49ers, more so than the Chiefs.
21:42The Chiefs really haven't played well in their 5-0.
21:45So hopefully that little bit of extra time helped them get things together on offense.
21:51There's always so much to do about the receiver room in Kansas City.
21:54And it really doesn't matter.
21:55Like as long as Patrick Mahomes, the quarterback.
21:57Juju comes back.
21:58It's 100 yards.
21:59They sign Kareem Hunt off the street.
22:01He runs for 100.
22:03So I'm taking the Chiefs.
22:04Don't bet against Patrick Mahomes.
22:06Will?
22:06I agree.
22:07I think it's the Chiefs.
22:08And as much as I've been a hater on the Chiefs, I do feel like this is a spot where it's like
22:12Mahomes, he hasn't played his best ball at all.
22:14And they're still like a middle-of-the-road offense.
22:16I feel like does he get out of his rut?
22:18I think he gets out of his rut this week, especially coming off a bye.
22:21And you've already said it.
22:22For those who have some gambling data fetishes out there, Dan's already said Andy Reid is
22:2621-4 straight up after a bye week.
22:28The Chiefs are 12-0 on Sunday games played on the West Coast.
22:31The 49ers are 0-4 in their last four October games as favorites against AFC opponents.
22:36And I do.
22:36I feel like knowing that their underdog is going on the road.
22:39It's not a primetime game.
22:41So that's what makes me feel like the Niners could be in a good spot because it's the middle
22:45of the afternoon on Sunday.
22:46But I do.
22:47I feel like the Chiefs start to put it together on offense this week.
22:49Shit, those stats hurt.
22:51No, I'm going to stick with the 49ers.
22:53This is a dumb pick by me.
22:55I'm going to feel really dumb.
22:57I was smart in the Super Bowl.
22:58When the Super Bowl was the 40, I mean, that game was a pick-em.
23:01And I was like, OK, I'm just going to trust that Patrick Mahomes and bet a ton of money
23:05on Patrick Mahomes.
23:06And it worked out.
23:07I'm an idiot.
23:08But I'll stick with it.
23:09You're going to stick with being an idiot?
23:10Yeah, I'm going to stick with it.
23:11I'm going to stick with being an idiot.
23:12And I was an idiot in the playoffs.
23:14Mahomes, underdog in Baltimore.
23:17You take Baltimore, Lamar Jackson.
23:19Then underdog, they were a slight underdog, basically a pick-em in the Super Bowl.
23:22You take the 49ers.
23:23So I'm done betting against Patrick Mahomes.
23:25Yeah, that's smart.
23:27Everyone gets their day.
23:27Yeah, you don't get rich betting against Mahomes.
23:31I did have that in the Super Bowl.
23:32But now I'm back on the way.
23:33You just got to think after a bye week, Mahomes sitting there, he knows it's time to start
23:38to turn it on.
23:39He's earned six picks this year.
23:40He doesn't throw six picks in a year.
23:42Like you said, they got to figure it out coming out of a bye.
23:45What better time?
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24:17OK, Dan, it's a Bears bye week.
24:19Yes.
24:19Which I know you always pick the Bears for this.
24:21Yes.
24:22First of all, before you get to your pick, how are you feeling about the Bears on the
24:24bye week?
24:24I feel great.
24:24I feel great.
24:25Yeah?
24:25Great 4-2 going in the bye.
24:27Everything looks good.
24:29We got a lot of football left, a lot of tough games left.
24:32But 4-2 is what I was – I predicted 4-2 back in January.
24:35They're 4-2.
24:37We're hitting all the marks.
24:39Get rested.
24:39We're going to go next week.
24:41OK.
24:41How crazy is it that the NFC North is like, what, 16-4?
24:4417-5 plus 211 point advantage.
24:49Crazy.
24:50Crazy.
24:50So who are you going with this week?
24:52So I have the Dolphins at the Colts.
24:55The Dolphins off a bye.
24:57Now, I want it very clear.
24:58This is a pick.
25:00If Joe Flacco starts, I want it to be on the Colts.
25:04But if Anthony Richardson starts, I want it to be on the Dolphins.
25:07Because I think Anthony Richardson is going to start.
25:09Anthony Richardson is not good.
25:10He has the worst completion percentage from a clean pocket in the NFL.
25:13It's like 54%.
25:15The Dolphins off a bye.
25:17Tyler Huntney gets a little more time with the offense.
25:20I also think you saw Mike McDaniel two weeks ago against the Patriots.
25:25He's like, hey, look, I can't run the Tua offense with Tyler Huntley.
25:29We're going to pound the rock.
25:30They ran it 41 times against the Patriots.
25:32I think that's what they're going to do here.
25:33They're going to run the ball a ton.
25:35And Anthony Richardson, I'm not a believer in Anthony Richardson.
25:38So if he's playing, I love the Dolphins.
25:41OK.
25:41Kyle, what do you think?
25:42One of their teams is going to just let Joe Flacco start.
25:44I know.
25:46The Colts are in a tough situation, though, because Joe Flacco is clearly better.
25:50And gives them a chance to go to the playoffs.
25:51But if you use the fourth pick overall on Anthony Richardson,
25:55you've got to kind of figure out what he is now.
25:58Otherwise, you're just kicking the can down the road.
25:59So I get it.
26:01But yeah, it's under your head.
26:03You'd absolutely take Joe Flacco in this game.
26:05Yeah, but I feel like there's a way in which you can use both guys.
26:08Joe Flacco is completely different than Anthony Richardson.
26:10And he's physically a freak.
26:12Athleticism off the charts.
26:14You can bring him in in certain situations.
26:15But let Joe be the guy.
26:17And make sure you don't ruin the fourth overall pick for the rest of his career.
26:22Kind of like when Lamar was a rookie in Baltimore with Joe.
26:26It was like they let him play a little bit.
26:28Then ultimately, he took over halfway through that season.
26:31I'm just setting him down.
26:33Get healthy.
26:34Watch this dude every day.
26:35Let Joe get you in the playoffs.
26:36That's a good point.
26:37And use Anthony.
26:39Especially when you've got a shot.
26:40You've got a shot to make a run at the playoffs with Joe Flacco as your quarterback.
26:43So I'm going to put the same exact stipulations.
26:45I'm betting on Joe Flacco.
26:47If Joe doesn't start, I'll take Miami.
26:49OK.
26:49Will?
26:50I will take that same stipulation as well.
26:52I mean, you've got Anthony Richardson.
26:54He completes half of the throws.
26:55He's got twice as many interceptions as he does touchdowns.
26:58And I think, too, even though Miami, they want to run the football.
27:02They do trust Huntley to throw the ball.
27:03If you watch in the last game, he's not hitting Tyreek Hale.
27:06He's trying to get him the ball.
27:07And I feel like Huntley, it being his third start, McDaniels being like,
27:10even if Schuyler's healthy, we're still going to go with Huntley.
27:12Right.
27:13They trust him to throw it.
27:15And him coming off a bye week, having that bye week to learn the offense a little bit more.
27:19I think Miami's in a great spot because they have a good defense.
27:22Yeah.
27:23And I do.
27:24I think Huntley will start to get it figured out a little bit.
27:26Obviously, it's not Tua, but I love Miami coming off a bye week.
27:29I don't know if we've ever had an across-the-desk stipulation game before.
27:31I mean, it's a big stipulation.
27:33I got screwed last week.
27:34I took the Titans last week.
27:35I thought it was going to be Anthony Richardson and no Michael Pittman.
27:38And then what happens in that game?
27:40Joe Flacco hits Michael Pittman for the game.
27:41Yeah.
27:43So very important.
27:43Fuck, what the fuck just happened?
27:44Very important stipulation.
27:46OK, Will, what's your playbook pick?
27:47I'm going to go with the Chargers at Arizona.
27:49I like the Chargers.
27:51Like, Arizona Cardinals, they put the ball on the ground.
27:53I want to say the Chargers have only had, like, two turnovers.
27:55Like, they play hardball football.
27:57They want to run the ball.
27:58They have a top 10 defense.
28:00They want to wear you down.
28:01They want to lean on you.
28:02And I feel like Arizona, even though Kyler, like, they have the athleticism.
28:06He's frisky throughout the year.
28:07He can win games.
28:08I don't think it's against the Chargers.
28:09I think they control the ball.
28:11I think they get out in front early.
28:12And then from there, I think they're able to run the football
28:14and wear you down defensively.
28:15Yeah, I agree with you on this.
28:17Man football team.
28:19Hardball off a heart attack.
28:20Like, you got to take it.
28:21Exactly.
28:21Exactly.
28:22And they're disciplined.
28:23They don't make many mistakes.
28:24I love that he went in the blue tent.
28:26In first.
28:27Yeah, I love that he went in the blue tent.
28:29And he said, what was his quote?
28:30Oh, he had this week, he said that he talked to his doctor, his cardiologist,
28:37and he said that the cardiologist told him he has a heart of an athlete.
28:40Blue twisted steel.
28:43Just start flexing at the bone.
28:44He's 2-0.
28:44He's 2-0 in a heart attack.
28:46Didn't he say that the only way he wouldn't be on the sidelines is if he's dead?
28:48Yeah, if he's dead.
28:49I love it.
28:50Yeah, he's a football guy.
28:51All right, Kyle.
28:51I'll take the Chargers too.
28:53Number one scoring defense.
28:56It's a hardball team.
28:57You can see in a year, they've already embodied their head coach.
29:01So I'm taking the Chargers.
29:02OK, and Kyle, what's your playbook pick?
29:04The Eagles at the Giants.
29:06Saquon Barkley, teammate of mine when we were in New York for a year together.
29:11Revenge game going back to New York.
29:13So I'm taking the Eagles.
29:15Also, I mean, I feel like the Giants just can't catch a break.
29:19Like, they lose Andrew Thomas, who's one of the best tackles in football.
29:22And they can't protect DJ to begin with.
29:25And now you lose your best offense alignment.
29:27So I'm taking Philly.
29:28Yeah.
29:29This is one of those games that I think no matter what I pick, I'm going to be wrong.
29:32Because I kind of like the Giants.
29:34But Andrew Thomas, you're right.
29:37Eagles are just weird.
29:39Nick Sirianni's weird.
29:41Shit is just weird.
29:44But Saquon, revenge game.
29:47I do like that.
29:49I kind of like that, too.
29:54Jerry, what do you think?
29:55Giants.
29:55Giants.
29:55Give me the Giants.
29:56I'm Giants as well.
29:57OK.
29:58Gary's seen the board clearly, fellas.
29:59This is an ugly game.
30:00But it is.
30:01It's just this weird vibe with Sirianni.
30:04And in the taunting the fans after beating the Browns.
30:07Not a good look.
30:08Especially in Philly.
30:11And look, he's done this every year.
30:13There's usually a moment that he has, whether it's with a player or he has with his fans,
30:17to where it just feels weird.
30:18It feels off.
30:19Yeah.
30:19I feel like the Giants just get one here for whatever reason.
30:22This is going to be one of those games next week when we're all sitting here and you're
30:25not here.
30:25They're going to be like, we should have listened to Kai.
30:26Yeah.
30:27Yeah.
30:28But I can live with this one.
30:29Strictly betting on Saquon Barth.
30:30Yeah.
30:30It's not the Philadelphia Eagles or Sirianni.
30:33This is Saquon going back to New York.
30:34I know just his mentality.
30:37That's what I would say.
30:38You've played with them.
30:38You know his mentality.
30:39Switching to the Eagles.
30:40Giving to them a hundred times.
30:41Switching to the Eagles.
30:43Like, he's going to go out there and want to kick their ass.
30:44I also, the one thing that makes me like the Eagles is that game against the Browns,
30:49they dominated that game.
30:50That game was close, obviously, because you had the blocked, you know, field goal for
30:54a touchdown.
30:55The Eagles dominated that game.
30:57Yeah, I'm going to Eagles.
30:58Okay.
30:58Anybody else want to switch?
31:00No, I'm sticking to Giants plus three.
31:01Okay.
31:02Let's move on to the Rapid Fire Picks of the Week presented by Fireball.
31:05It is the Fireball Rapid Picks of the Week, which means it's time for you to take a shot,
31:08Will.
31:09I got you.
31:09So the Rapid Fire Picks segment is presented by Fireball Whiskey.
31:12What makes football great is a ton, but you know what the best thing is?
31:14Kicking the living shit out of your rival.
31:16And this week we've got NFC East rivals in New York, the Eagles versus the Giants, like
31:20we just talked about.
31:20And Fireball is here to give you the spark to ignite that rivalry all season long.
31:24Grab your football buddy, buy around and ignite that rivalry flame.
31:28Get every drop of that.
31:29And it's cold outside now a little bit.
31:30So it's like, Fireball's perfect to warm you up.
31:32Simple advice.
31:32Perfect.
31:33So Kyle, what we do here is we just rapid fire through them.
31:35If you want to talk about a game, you can, or if you just want to give a pick.
31:38So we'll start with the international game.
31:40Another 930 AM Eastern kick, Will, with the Patriots and the Jags.
31:44Both one and five.
31:45The Jags minus five and a half.
31:46Pass.
31:47Okay, I'll go.
31:48He gets one game to pass on every week, by the way.
31:51I'll take the Patriots.
31:53I don't love it.
31:55Drake May was not bad.
31:56He was not bad.
31:57And the Jaguars are bad.
31:58They're bad.
31:59It does make me a little nervous the Jaguars are there for, you know, they stay
32:03in London.
32:04But yeah, I just, I don't think the Jaguars should be favored by five and a half against
32:07anyone.
32:08Yeah.
32:08Anyone.
32:09But because they were there for the week, though, like, is that what you think the line
32:13is saying?
32:14Yeah, I mean, the Patriots are not, their defense is bad.
32:19Yeah, but I'm going to take them.
32:20I just don't, I think the Jaguars probably win, but they shouldn't be five and a half
32:24point favorites over anyone.
32:25Kyle?
32:26Yeah, I mean, I completely agree.
32:27I think the Jags stink, but you can't be in London for two weeks and not at least win
32:31one of the two.
32:33So I'll take Jags for that reason, that reason only.
32:35Yeah, I'll go Jags.
32:36I'll go Jags as well.
32:37That was your one pass game?
32:38Yeah, this is such an ugly game.
32:39I, yeah.
32:40Okay, well then.
32:40You're there two weeks.
32:41Yeah, you're there two weeks, your quarterback makes 55 million, go win a game.
32:44Yeah.
32:45Okay, so then I'll start with you again, Will.
32:46The Titans at the Bills.
32:48The Bills minus nine and a half.
32:49There's so many points, but I think the Bills cover.
32:53Do you think this is one of those Bills just smash them spot?
32:56I think so.
32:57I think so, man.
32:58I feel like.
32:58I'm so sick of betting on the Titans.
33:01The Titans are the worst team turnover wise in the league, turnover margin.
33:07Yeah, I don't feel good about the Titans.
33:09You got Calvin Ridley speaking to the media, talking about he wants to see targets in the
33:13beginning of the game.
33:14You feel like when that stuff starts to seep into the locker room, you just, it never ends
33:19well, man.
33:20It never ends well.
33:20And I like Will Levis, but I do.
33:23I feel like the locker room is upset right now.
33:25I feel like there's trade talks with Jeff Simmons, with DeAndre Hopkins.
33:29What do you do?
33:30How do you start to plan for the future?
33:32And Tony Pollard was even running the ball well.
33:34Like the O-line got moving a little bit.
33:35They were running the ball well last week.
33:37I just feel like, I feel like it's the Bills, man.
33:41Even though it's nine and a half points.
33:42Yeah, I'm going to go with you.
33:43I think this is one of those classic Bills just smash them.
33:46And I'm just, I can't bet on the Titans anymore.
33:48I've lost so much betting on the Titans because I think they're good, but they're not.
33:53But I think they're good.
33:54Right.
33:55And I.
33:56They're one and four.
33:56They're not.
33:58I hate, I get my hair cut at this local little barbershop.
34:03Shout out.
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34:07But it does.
34:08It feels like the locker room is pretty upset with the way things are going.
34:12You're getting news from the barbershop?
34:15Wow.
34:17Wow.
34:18Okay.
34:18Like the Bills.
34:19Okay.
34:20Kyle?
34:20I'll take the Titans just because nine and a half points is so much in an NFL game.
34:25Literally, that's the only reason.
34:27That's not a bad strategy.
34:29It is.
34:30I would like to think this could be one of the Josh Allen games where it kind of just
34:34comes out, does his thing, and they win by double digits.
34:36But I'm going to take the points.
34:38Nine and a half's a lot in an NFL game.
34:40All right, Dan, the Bengals at the Browns.
34:42The Bengals minus five and a half.
34:43We talked about Joe earlier.
34:44He's been playing lights out, but they are two and four.
34:47Yeah.
34:47So this is partially why I had to take the Bills because I couldn't just take only bad
34:51teams this week, but I'm taking the Browns.
34:54I'm taking the Browns in this game.
34:55They play better defensively at home, as bad as the vibes are with Deshaun Watson, and
35:01they couldn't be worse.
35:03Nick Chubb coming back, if you've seen any of the clips, that locker room fucking loves
35:08Nick Chubb.
35:08Like, they are so pumped to have him back.
35:11He might carry the ball 10 times.
35:13I don't think it matters.
35:14I think they get a little boost from it.
35:16And I think similar to the Jaguars, like the Bengals are better than the Jaguars, but the
35:21Bengals haven't proven that they should be five and a half point favorites just because
35:25the defense played well against the Giants, but they haven't played well otherwise.
35:28And I just think the Browns find enough to keep it close in this game.
35:32Will?
35:32I'm with Dan.
35:33I feel like you do get that little bit of juice.
35:35Like, there is no life in Cleveland.
35:37Like, none.
35:38Nothing to root for, nothing to be excited about.
35:40But when you get like a locker room favorite coming back who also happens to be an absolute
35:44stud, it gives you a little bit of some good juju going into the game.
35:49So I do feel like they get one here.
35:50So I'm going to go with the Browns.
35:53Yeah.
35:53I'm on the Browns as well.
35:55I was with Kevin Stefanski for nine years in Minnesota.
35:57That's my guy.
35:58In a tough situation right now.
35:59But they've had a lot of success against the Bengals in Cleveland too.
36:04So I'm going to go Browns.
36:05I think also the Browns are going to start, because they have to play Deshaun Watson.
36:09I don't think that's Stefanski's call.
36:11I think that's probably coming from ownership.
36:12I think Stefanski is going to start maybe simplifying it a little bit more, especially
36:18running the ball, because it's just been so bad.
36:21And I think Conklin might be back as well, which is huge.
36:23Because that offensive line has not been good.
36:25I think Deshaun's responsible for a lot of the sacks, but the offensive line has also
36:29not been good.
36:30And knowing you've been with Stefanski for a while, what's his style when you're in the
36:34middle of the season like this?
36:35Not kind of behind the eight ball.
36:37Chill.
36:38No, he's very real.
36:40Really kind of a guy that's like this all the time.
36:45It is what it is.
36:46We've got to go out.
36:47We've got a division home game here.
36:51Find a way.
36:52Chubb's coming back.
36:53He'll give it to him as many times as he possibly can.
36:56You have some coaches that are just brutal.
36:58No, Kevin's awesome.
37:00I guarantee you, like I said, the vibes couldn't be worse in Cleveland.
37:03But if there's a shot that he has the pulse of that locker room, it's Kevin.
37:09He's got that.
37:11Feed the run game.
37:12All right, Kyle.
37:13The Seahawks at the Falcons.
37:14The Falcons minus three.
37:16I'm going to take the Falcons on the road.
37:19Kirk Swag Surfing his way into Seattle.
37:22Oh, no, no.
37:22They're at home.
37:24Falcons are at home.
37:25Oh, yeah, for sure.
37:27It's because that clip of Kirk saying, we'll say, they'll walk in your trap.
37:31Walk in your trap.
37:32Take over your trap.
37:33That was about the Panthers last week.
37:34Yeah.
37:36Yeah, Falcons at home.
37:37I like the Seahawks in this game.
37:39I think the Falcons, the one problem with the Falcons is they don't have any pass rush.
37:43They didn't sack Andy Dalton once last week.
37:45They're literally last in the NFL in sacks per game, under sack a game.
37:51And that's been the problem for the Seahawks, is Geno feels like he's been
37:54under pressure constantly.
37:56That offensive line has not been great.
37:58But I think that's where a strength comes, is the Falcons aren't able to get at Geno,
38:03and he's got weapons all over the field.
38:05I think it's going to be a weird field goal type game.
38:07OK, Will.
38:08And they've also dropped three straight, right?
38:11Three straight, off a mini-bye, because they played three straight.
38:13Right.
38:14I'm with you.
38:14I'm going with the Seahawks as well at Atlanta, like on the road.
38:17You've dropped three straight after starting off 3-0.
38:19It's kind of one of those things, hey, nobody's counting on us to win this game.
38:22Our backs are against the wall.
38:23We're going on the road.
38:24No one is picking us.
38:25I feel like they'll have that motivation, on top of they are a good football team.
38:28They just haven't gotten a win in the last three.
38:31So I'm going to go Seahawks.
38:32OK, let's do Panthers at Commanders.
38:35Kyle, I will start back with you.
38:36Commanders minus eight.
38:38I'm going to take the Commanders.
38:39Eight points is a lot, but they got a good football team.
38:43Jayden Daniels is a stud.
38:45I don't think Carolina is that good.
38:47No, they're bad.
38:48They were like, I saw something, you know, like trade targets for the deadline.
38:51It's like half Carolina's team was on the graphic.
38:54That's never a good feeling.
38:57Every receiver.
38:59So I'm going to take the Commanders.
39:01Yeah.
39:02Van?
39:03I'm going to take Commanders as well, but I don't like it.
39:05Just because eight points.
39:07Eight points.
39:08The Panthers' offense is not that bad.
39:11Their defense is atrocious.
39:12So I think the Commanders will get to pick their number.
39:16It's just like the eight points, you leave the back door open.
39:18You just never know.
39:19Yeah, Vegas Draftkings are starting to make it hard on us because of the week we all had
39:23last week.
39:24But I like the Commanders.
39:25I feel like even though they lost against Baltimore.
39:28Baltimore, we were talking about last week.
39:31Shut down the run.
39:32See if Jayden Daniels can beat you.
39:33I feel like he competed.
39:35He throws the ball well.
39:36You can win a few different ways with Washington.
39:38I think they have a good football team.
39:40They got to improve defensively.
39:42But against Carolina, I think they do.
39:44I think they cover eight here.
39:46And I think that was it last week.
39:47They just couldn't stop Baltimore down the stretch.
39:49Yeah.
39:50They're not going to have a hard time stopping.
39:51Yeah.
39:52Right.
39:52Right.
39:53Okay, well, the Raiders at the Rams.
39:55The Rams minus six and a half.
39:57So I usually get a pass game a week.
39:58And I also get an I don't know game of the week.
40:00Okay.
40:01And this is my I don't know game of the week.
40:02Let me help you.
40:02I can help you with my notes.
40:03Dan, help me.
40:04You want to hear my notes?
40:05Yes, sell me these picks, brother.
40:07Rams off the bye.
40:08Aidan O'Connell sucks.
40:09I hate this game.
40:11Good notes.
40:11Does that help?
40:15Aidan O'Connell sucks.
40:16I hate this game.
40:18I hate this game.
40:19I don't fucking know.
40:20I hate this game.
40:22Yeah, you go, Kyle.
40:23You go, Kyle.
40:23Well, yes.
40:24Matthew Stafford at home.
40:25Like, everything sucks.
40:27Like, let's just let's just go with the guy who's been around.
40:29Okay.
40:29Yeah, I like that.
40:30Off the bye.
40:31You're right.
40:32I like that.
40:32Go with Matthew Stafford.
40:33Aidan O'Connell sucks.
40:35It's in my notes.
40:36It's in my notes.
40:37If any coach finds a way, we say it all the time.
40:39It's Sean Bay.
40:40Yeah.
40:41Will has his past game of the week and his I don't know game of the week.
40:45Dan, now you have I hate this game.
40:47I love the extent of my notes.
40:49I hate this game.
40:50Let me help you out.
40:51And I won't be here next week, so I'll just start it off.
40:55There you go.
40:55Okay, Sunday night football.
40:57Jerry, you're Steelers.
40:58So the Jets at the Steelers in Pittsburgh.
41:00The Jets minus two and a half.
41:01How are you feeling?
41:02I feel good.
41:04Not overly confident, but I do feel good.
41:08T.J. Watt.
41:09Listen, when you have T.J. Watt in a football game, your chances to win are significantly
41:15better than any other team in the NFL.
41:17Rodgers can't move.
41:18You also look pissed all the time.
41:20Yeah, like Steelers' Pat Schroess is one of the best in football.
41:23Cam Hayward's playing at a high level.
41:24They're getting Alex Highsmith back.
41:26Mike Tomlin, home underdog.
41:28How do you go against that?
41:29Everybody in the world is just saying to themselves, oh, Rodgers is going to be back.
41:33Devontae Adams.
41:35They haven't played football together for a long time.
41:37I don't think that's instantly going to come back and Devontae Adams is going to get 120
41:41yards receiving and a couple touchdowns.
41:43It's not going to happen, especially against the Steelers.
41:46Russ is the spark.
41:47Russ is the spark.
41:49I've been saying it since day one.
41:51He's a veteran.
41:52He's a winner.
41:53He wasn't some piece of shit scrub in Denver.
41:58He was not.
41:59Payton and him didn't get along.
42:00I love the spark.
42:01I love the move from Mike Tomlin.
42:03Justin has been playing well, but he can't pass the ball.
42:05Steelers, with Russ, are going to pass the ball.
42:08To who?
42:09George Pickens.
42:09Oh, is he going to run routes this week?
42:11Pat Friermuth.
42:12Jalen Warren is healthy.
42:14Scotty Miller.
42:16Listen, I like the Steelers.
42:17I do.
42:18Dan, do you not agree?
42:18No, I don't agree at all.
42:21Jerry just talked out of both sides of his mouth.
42:22He's like, Devontae Adams and Aaron Rodgers, it's not going to come back instantly.
42:25You know what's not going to come back instantly?
42:27Russell Wilson, who hasn't played for a month and a half and wasn't good the last time we
42:31saw him play.
42:31That's a nice rebuttal.
42:32He's a veteran.
42:33I mean, Russ might be OK later on this season.
42:37He's not going to be OK going against the Jets defense the first game back.
42:42I like the Jets.
42:42And the Jets are also, they are out of excuses, out of moves, fired the coach, brought in
42:49Devontae Adams.
42:50It's like now or never.
42:52This is a game that they absolutely have to win.
42:56So I think I like the Jets.
42:57And the Steelers are 4-2.
42:59They're a good team, but they don't have to win the way the Jets have to win this game.
43:02Kyle, we saw last week, Aaron Rodgers, I mean, he's been looking pissed all year, but he's
43:06just fed up too.
43:07So are you buying that he's going to be able to beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh?
43:10Yeah, because he got what he wanted.
43:11Yeah.
43:12I mean, Devontae was at his place on his show the next day.
43:17Did he sleep over there the night before or after Monday Night Football?
43:21So I'm taking the Jets because Aaron got what he wants, and he knows, all right, I got what
43:24I want.
43:25Now it's time to go.
43:25OK, Will?
43:27Yeah.
43:29Yeah, this is a tough one.
43:31I want the Steelers to win because I feel like they are, in my opinion, in kind of a
43:37must-win situation because Tomlin, he has the stones.
43:39He has the clout to make a decision like he's putting in Russell Wilson over Justin Fields.
43:44I feel like there's a lot riding on that because if it doesn't work out, from what I've heard,
43:47Justin Fields, he's an all-in guy.
43:50He's a big team guy.
43:51You're 4-2 with him.
43:54Not that they're having magic, but you know how that can affect a locker room or sideline
43:58in the middle of a game if it doesn't work out.
44:00If this call doesn't work out the way they hope it will, I hope it does.
44:03I do think Russ can play better with that offense, so I'm rooting for the Steelers.
44:08And part of me, I know Aaron got what he wanted, and I do.
44:11I think it's going to be hilarious if Devontae gets 120 with a couple touchdowns while Jerry's
44:16saying that because they very well could.
44:19It will take a minute, but their football knowledge.
44:22But you hear Devontae talk about football.
44:24You know he understands the game at the highest level with Aaron, so they're going to be able
44:28to click right away.
44:29But there's just something about him leaning into the screen when they were on McAfee,
44:34and it just felt like a checkmate.
44:35Like they're just about to go on a run.
44:37They're still 2-4.
44:39I like Steelers at home being dogs, making a move like this, and I'm kind of rooting
44:43for it because I do hope Russ works out because if it doesn't, I think the Steelers could
44:47be in a very bad spot putting Justin Fields on the bench.
44:50Mike, go ahead.
44:51I was going to say, there was a lot to be made.
44:52Devontae already had his Jets, Jordan, Cleese.
44:55Yeah, ready, ready.
44:57Were they green?
44:58He had green cleats when he played for the Panthers.
44:59That's true.
45:01We know these guys just have cleats everywhere.
45:03He probably just pulled out a pair of old white and green ones from Green Bay.
45:06That's true.
45:07I have a theory I'll throw out there.
45:09Is there a chance that Mike Tomlin hears, you know, he told Russ that he's a starter
45:15to start the season.
45:16He got injured.
45:17Mike Tomlin hears everyone being like, Russ, Russ, the Jerrys of the world being like,
45:21Russ, we need Russ, we need Russ.
45:24Russ was probably healthy last week, was he not?
45:26He was 100% healthy.
45:27Tomlin said he could have played last week.
45:28Okay, so why wouldn't you start him against the Raiders that you know you can beat?
45:31That's what I said.
45:32Okay, so now he's starting him against the Jets defense.
45:34Do you think it's a setup?
45:35I think it's a setup.
45:36Yeah, I did say that too.
45:38And then he's going to be like, you guys wanted this, you saw it, it's Justin Fields.
45:44That's a theory.
45:45That's a theory.
45:46I said that.
45:46It's a theory.
45:47It's a theory.
45:47That's a theory.
45:48You got to think they don't make a move like that just based on setting something up.
45:53I agree.
45:53You know what I mean?
45:54Like I do.
45:54This is a stupid theory, but it's a theory.
45:56When his game kicks off on Sunday, like all of the pressure will be on Russ.
45:59But he basically said to Russ, like you're the starter, right?
46:03And he's going to give him a chance no matter what.
46:05And he's like, maybe his eyeballs are like, hey, he's probably not good, but I promise
46:09him he's going to be a starter.
46:10We did a whole thing trying to get him to Pittsburgh, all this stuff.
46:12Reeling him in for the stuff off the field.
46:14Right, so you get a chance and it probably won't go well.
46:18Right.
46:18And then we're going to have to.
46:19You just hope Justin like doesn't go in the tank mentally.
46:21No, he won't.
46:22He won't.
46:23Because again, if something happens, like they're going to need you right back in that
46:26same situation.
46:27And their offensive line is banged up and he's not mobile.
46:31Yeah.
46:32Watch out, Jerry.
46:33Yeah, I mean, I just, I can't.
46:34Well, Rodgers isn't mobile either.
46:36I understand.
46:36But he can throw.
46:38It's true.
46:39He can't throw.
46:39He can throw well.
46:40He can throw.
46:40He can throw real well.
46:41He can throw real well.
46:43I just can't get the Cowboys game out of my head.
46:45Oh my god.
46:46The Steelers offense.
46:48The Cowboys defense.
46:50Banged up.
46:51Love Zim.
46:52Zim's my guy.
46:53We're together in Minnesota.
46:54He's a great defensive football coach.
46:56I mean, like you said, Detroit.
46:57They were trying to throw touchdowns to offensive linemen.
47:00And they basically handed Pittsburgh that game.
47:02Yeah, no.
47:02And they couldn't take it.
47:04Yeah.
47:04So I don't know.
47:06Yeah.
47:06Rolling with the Jets.
47:07Okay.
47:08All right, we'll finish out with Monday Night Football, Dan.
47:10The Ravens at the Bucs.
47:12The Ravens minus three and a half.
47:13I'm going to take the Bucs.
47:14I don't like the Bucs because of Stephen Shea.
47:16I said that.
47:17I've downgraded the Bucs just based on Stephen Shea.
47:20I got to take my bias out of it.
47:21I think the Bucs are pretty good.
47:22And the Bucs, like, Baker's going to make some plays in this game.
47:27The Ravens defense, they look better against the Commanders.
47:29But I don't think it's fully fixed in terms of the pass defense.
47:34It's going to be a great game.
47:36I'm excited for this game.
47:37I just think three and a half is too much for home dog there with the Bucs.
47:42Kyle?
47:42Yeah, riding with the Bucs.
47:43Baker leading the NFL in touchdowns, I think.
47:47Can't turn the ball over.
47:48Like, when Baker goes out and doesn't turn the football over,
47:51Todd Bowles is just a monster on the other side of the ball.
47:54He dials up all kinds of crazy pressures.
47:57I'm taking the Bucs at home.
47:58Will?
47:59No, I'm with them.
48:00I'm excited for this game because you're right, you can't turn the ball over.
48:03But the fact that you threw three picks and still put up over 50 is a big positive.
48:08And, you know, the Ravens, they like to play man a lot.
48:10I feel like this is a matchup issue when it comes to the Bucs offense.
48:13I do.
48:13I like the Bucs at home in primetime against the Ravens.
48:16OK, it's time for hot takes leading into week seven of the NFL.
48:20Dan, do you want to start?
48:21Yeah, I'll start.
48:21I had a hot take last week.
48:23Will Levis was not going to turn the ball over.
48:24Unfortunately, that was wrong.
48:26He did.
48:26But that's why it was a hot take.
48:27I was watching that whole game.
48:28I was like, don't turn it over.
48:29Don't turn it over.
48:30He did.
48:31I have a season-long hot take this week.
48:33So it's not going to be just decided in one week.
48:36I placed a Super Bowl future.
48:40Would you guys like to guess who I placed my Super Bowl future on?
48:43The Bears.
48:44No.
48:45Vikings.
48:46No.
48:47Not anyone you would think.
48:48I placed a Super Bowl future on the Los Angeles Chargers, 45 to 1.
48:55What do you think about that?
48:56What do you think about that?
48:57I don't hate it.
48:57I don't think.
48:58OK.
48:58The reason why is I love how this Chargers team is playing hardball football.
49:05Yes.
49:05And they're already bought in so early.
49:07Like, they were abysmal last year.
49:08Yes.
49:09The highest paid defense.
49:10Like, they were a dumpster fire last year.
49:14And the fact that they are, they're playing, like, quality football.
49:17The type of football that does win you championships.
49:19Running the football.
49:19Having Herbert in.
49:21And who is it?
49:22Quentin Johnston.
49:23Like, you still have some guys on the perimeter.
49:25And they're playing good football.
49:26They don't turn the ball over.
49:28I don't think they're going to win the Super Bowl.
49:31But I think 45 to 1, they're going to make the playoffs.
49:34And they're going to be a tough out in the playoffs.
49:35And you might have a chance to hedge.
49:37So it's, like, kind of a weird future where it's, like, gun to my head.
49:40Do I think they could actually win the Super Bowl?
49:43Probably not.
49:44But I do think they can be in the divisional round.
49:46And at 45 to 1, that's crazy odds.
49:48This is going to be such a dumb question.
49:50But I'll be the guy.
49:51I know what you're going to ask.
49:52What am I going to ask?
49:53Can you cash out?
49:54No, no, no, no.
49:55What I was going to ask is, teach me about this.
49:57What's the hedge?
49:59Well, 45 to 1.
49:59So you buy a 45 to 1.
50:00Let's say you put $1,000.
50:02I put $5,000 on it, 45 to 1.
50:03So it would win me, I don't know, like $200,000 or something.
50:09They get into a playoff game.
50:11They're, I don't know.
50:12Tough to beat.
50:13And then you have an opportunity.
50:14$225,000.
50:15Yeah, they're in a playoff game.
50:16And they're, you know, minus or plus 4 dog.
50:21Just I could take the money line on the other side and basically free roll it.
50:26Like, put $15,000 on the other side.
50:28OK.
50:28And then if the Chargers advance, I still have a huge window of money that, you know.
50:34So basically, the thought process is you put $5,000 on to win 45 to 1.
50:39They get in the playoffs.
50:40They're an underdog.
50:41Then you would put more money.
50:43On the team that you think that they might drop one.
50:45Correct.
50:45So that way you take care of them a little bit.
50:47Correct.
50:47OK.
50:48I also did it.
50:48I bet it twice.
50:49My new thing is I bet it twice.
50:50So I have a cash out bet.
50:52And I put $5,000 on them to win the Super Bowl.
50:54That will not be a cash out.
50:55And then I put $3,000 on them to win the Super Bowl.
50:57That could potentially be a cash out.
50:58That's what I was, I thought you were going to ask about the cash out.
51:01I did a back up.
51:01I wanted to learn that.
51:02Because I see it thrown around and I'm like, damn, what is the hedge?
51:05But also, everything I just said, I never hedge.
51:09So I'm just going to lose this money.
51:12You have that opportunity.
51:13I'm going to lose this money.
51:14But you're not going to take advantage of it.
51:15Because I've done it.
51:16I did it with, I mean, the Eagles were up.
51:18I had 22 to 1 on the Eagles in the Super Bowl.
51:20And they were up 10 and a half.
51:21And I didn't hedge.
51:23So I don't hedge.
51:24But you could.
51:25You could.
51:26You could hedge in a championship game for them to lose.
51:28But if they win, then you're still 20 to 1.
51:30But I'm not going to hedge.
51:31Got you.
51:32That's crazy.
51:32But you could.
51:33I'm not going to hedge.
51:33But you could.
51:34It would be crazy for Harbaugh to go national championship and Super Bowl back.
51:38I don't think it's going to happen.
51:39But I do think there are a team that will be in the playoffs.
51:42That's really what the bet is.
51:43They're going to be in the playoffs.
51:45And I think the way, the style they play, that's playoff football.
51:49Like, they will not be an easy out for anyone.
51:51The last time Harbaugh was a new head coach in the NFL,
51:54the 49ers lost in the NFC Championship game.
51:56There we go.
51:57Year one.
51:58Year two, we made the Super Bowl.
51:59Yeah.
52:00But that was a walk-off field goal against the Giants in candlesticks.
52:04Yeah.
52:05Right.
52:05Will, do you have a hot take?
52:07Yeah.
52:07My hot take will build off last week's.
52:09Last week, my hot take was you'll see Russell Wilson in that game.
52:13You didn't.
52:13He's now getting to start this game.
52:15And to build on that hot take, I'm going to say he throws for six touchdowns.
52:18And Jerry has to give.
52:19Malasek a hand job.
52:20Malasek a hand job.
52:21Wait, did I miss something?
52:22Yeah, there was a clip.
52:24There was a clip with Jerry after dark.
52:26It was supposed to be Max and then Max.
52:27Well, yeah.
52:27Well, Malasek just.
52:28I texted Max.
52:29I was like, what are we doing here, dude?
52:31Yeah, Malasek just openly said he'll do it.
52:33We've been doing this podcast for eight plus years.
52:36It's all going to crumble because you're getting a hand job.
52:38From Jerry.
52:39On a live stream.
52:40Like, we've got to think about this stuff.
52:42So Malasek was just like, I'll do it?
52:44I'll do it.
52:44Because he thinks.
52:46I mean, six touchdowns is crazy.
52:49He's never done it.
52:50It has to be live streamed, too.
52:53That's what they said.
52:56I use the old.
52:57Twitter allows you to put sex stuff on.
52:59I use the old.
53:01I think it's Vince Lombardi.
53:02It might be Hank Strong.
53:03Make Twitter porn great.
53:04The.
53:05I think it's.
53:05I think it's Vince Lombardi where he's just on the sideline.
53:07He says, what the hell is going on out here?
53:10That's what.
53:10That was the gift I used for that bet.
53:12But you're going to just be OK if Jerry does it.
53:14I'm not involved in this whatsoever.
53:17I got my guy out of it.
53:18And now I'm.
53:19I literally saw it and I texted Max.
53:21Like, dude, what are you doing?
53:22It's good.
53:23Got him out.
53:24They can do whatever they want.
53:25It's going to be one of those things where when we're watching this game on Sunday night
53:29and we're just like, like, if Russ hits like four.
53:32There's no chance.
53:33Or I'm going to be sitting there just like.
53:34There's no chance.
53:35I want the chaos.
53:35Russell Wilson is not going to throw.
53:38He's.
53:38He might not even throw one touchdown.
53:40I know, but we need a Jerry cam if that happens.
53:42Like, realize he's going to have to give another man.
53:45No, listen, I'm rooting for you.
53:47Another man.
53:48I'm rooting for there to be five touchdowns.
53:49Like, you know, halfway through the third quarter.
53:51Just imagine if he throws for six touchdowns.
53:54They lose.
53:55Devontae Adams has 120.
53:56Yeah.
53:58And he has to get.
54:01Jesus Christ.
54:03Kyle, do you have a hot take that could potentially top that?
54:06No.
54:08If you want to pass after that, you are more than welcome to.
54:11You're going to go six and oh.
54:12Yeah.
54:13No, I mean, there's no hot take that could.
54:15No, yeah, no.
54:16We got to just get from us.
54:18Yeah, I mean, anytime you start talking about Jerry giving another dude a handjob on a live
54:21stream.
54:22All right, then let's just move on to the survivor pool pick.
54:24So, Kyle, unfortunately, the guest seat is out.
54:26So you do not get a pick.
54:27Your will is still out.
54:28But Dan and Jerry are alive.
54:30Kyle, we've restarted this now three times.
54:33This has been a tough, tough year for the guys.
54:35Kyle, I've lost on week one every time we've opened the survivor pool.
54:39Yeah, it's crazy.
54:40Jerry is up one point.
54:41So, Jerry, do you want to go first?
54:42You want Dan to go first?
54:43I'll go. I'll take the bills.
54:44All right, I'll take the commanders.
54:46Okay.
54:47All right.
54:47We'll see if it keeps going.
54:49I'm actually happy that you guys are still alive.
54:51Normally, we have to redo it every week.
54:53I have a survivor pool strategy question.
54:57Do you ride with a team or against a team?
55:00What do you mean?
55:03Last two weeks, I've gone against the Panthers.
55:06Yes, yes.
55:06Or is it, hey, whoever?
55:09Yeah, I don't do survivor pools correctly.
55:12There are people who do it very well.
55:14And they map out the entire schedule.
55:16And they're like, this is when I'm going to save this team and this team.
55:19I just sit down and I'm like, whoever is playing the Panthers.
55:22Yeah.
55:23That's a good strategy.
55:24I mean, it's kind of working.
55:25Yeah, it is.
55:25Except for the first few weeks.
55:27Anything else, guys?
55:28Great show.
55:29Great show.
55:29Kyle, you crushed it.
55:30Thank you, Kyle.
55:31We would love to have you back.
55:33Good to get some Pro Bowls on you.
55:35Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:36I was snubbed.
55:38And we'll be back next week.
55:39Have a great weekend.

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