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00:43The regular season finale, week 18.
00:46Happy New Year. We've got Taylor. Happy New Year.
00:49Happy 2025. Any New Year's resolutions, boys?
00:52Get jacked. Be a better person. Read a little bit more.
00:56I'm gonna read a book.
00:56One book?
00:57Yeah.
00:58Do you know which book yet?
00:59No.
01:00I'm probably going to read a Michael Lewis book because they always end up being movies
01:04and then I can be like, book was better than the movie.
01:06Huge.
01:07Yeah. Big short, money ball.
01:08You should be able to be a psychologist.
01:09You should do like a book a month but every book is like a children's book.
01:11Whatever you're reading.
01:12Yeah, yeah.
01:13Some of those children's books got a lot of fucking words.
01:16Like, I read a book last night to my son.
01:19It was Strega Nona.
01:20You ever read that one?
01:21No.
01:22The Magic Pasta Pot?
01:23No.
01:24Fucking so many words.
01:25Rue stuck on Fancy Nancy and for the love of God, I hate Fancy Nancy.
01:29Who's Fancy Nancy?
01:30It's like, it's tough fonts and everything.
01:34It's like, oh, this is a fancy word for this.
01:36I'm like, don't worry about that word.
01:38But yeah, it just messes you up because you're standing there and the font's off.
01:41It's like, I can't read this book very well.
01:42There'll be times where I'll read a sentence and be like, I didn't read that correctly.
01:46If there was anyone else watching besides my five-year-old, they'd be like, do you know
01:50how to read?
01:51Yeah, no.
01:52My son's still stuck on Good Night Moon.
01:53We read Good Night Moon.
01:54That's a good one.
01:55Any time of day.
01:56He's not even two yet.
01:57I'm still stuck.
01:58I mean, Good Night Moon at 2 p.m.
01:59All the time.
02:00Yeah.
02:01All the time.
02:02My daughter's still on Harry Potter.
02:03We're reading the Harry Potter books right now and two nights ago, she looked at me and
02:06she goes, Daddy, I love that you read with me, but Mommy reads way better than you do.
02:09And that was tough to hear.
02:10That's good, though.
02:11That's tough to hear.
02:12That's good because then you'd be like, all right, great.
02:13I'm going to read.
02:14Yeah, but I'm kind of sucked in.
02:15Now it's a competition.
02:16I love that.
02:17That's good.
02:18You can't be.
02:19You can't be.
02:20New Year's resolution, beat my wife at reading.
02:22There you go.
02:23Get your daughter's approval.
02:24All right.
02:25So, Dan, you are 133, 117, and 5.
02:28Pretty damn good, 53 and a half percent for the entire year.
02:32Pretty good.
02:33I saw you pull out the calculator.
02:34I did.
02:35I just pulled out the calculator.
02:36Of course he did.
02:37I was just trying to figure it out.
02:38Of course he did.
02:39You going to try to do that math?
02:40Yeah, because I've been losing.
02:4153 and a half.
02:42What was it?
02:43What's Will's?
02:44So, I mean, Will's right at 500.
02:45Will's 125.
02:46Yeah, Will lost again.
02:4753.2.
02:48I am at 500, which is positive on the year, I guess, but I've been in a pretty bad losing
02:53streak right now.
02:54It's okay.
02:55I did it again.
02:56I beat his ass again.
02:57Maybe next year, Will.
02:58But it goes through the Super Bowl, no?
02:59How did you?
03:00What games was it where you beat my...
03:01I feel like we were really aligned in the show last year.
03:02I don't even remember.
03:03No, the last show, I think you guys were separate almost the entire show, no?
03:06That was two.
03:07When we did the Zoom, we were aligned and all.
03:08Oh.
03:09I'm just smarter than you.
03:10There was going to be a bounce back before.
03:11You're smarter than me.
03:12You're smarter than me.
03:13Well done.
03:14Well, that's a fact.
03:15Yeah, I'm smarter than you.
03:16Yeah.
03:17And then, Taylor, you're 24, 20, and 1 on this season.
03:19Yeah, pretty much.
03:2054.1%?
03:21Nope.
03:22Again, you can't read or do numbers.
03:23That's not 54%.
03:24What is that?
03:25He saw a 4.
03:26Nope.
03:27What is it?
03:28It's not 54%.
03:29It's got to be close.
03:30It's got to be close.
03:31It's got to be better than 53.2 on...
03:32It has to be.
03:33Oh, shit.
03:34It's 54%.
03:35Oh, shit.
03:36That was from the hip, too.
03:37Damn it.
03:38Was it?
03:39Feels good to be great.
03:40Damn it.
03:41Did you use your calculator on that?
03:42No, I swear.
03:43I don't even know how to calculate percentages.
03:44Yeah.
03:45Okay.
03:46I clearly don't either.
03:47It's stupid because it looks like it would be close to 54.
03:48No, it's...
03:49Right?
03:50Numbers are smaller.
03:51You're literally just talking about your records.
03:52I'm thinking to myself, I got to be somewhere in that 53.
03:53Yeah.
03:54Somewhere.
03:55Somewhere.
03:56Just praying I was right.
03:57So, obviously, a lot of these games we're going to talk about, we've got a lot of guys
03:58sitting out, a lot of playoff math that's happening, but we're going to start with the
04:01storyline games of the week presented by the Chevy Silverado with the Bengals and the Steelers.
04:05The Bengals minus 1.5, and obviously, all eyes right now are on Joe Burrow and how good
04:09he has been.
04:10For them to get in the playoffs, the Chiefs have to beat the Broncos, the Jets have to
04:14beat the Dolphins.
04:16I'll start with you.
04:17Like, obviously, other things have to happen, but the Bengals being in the playoffs would
04:21be sick.
04:22It would be sick.
04:23I predicted the course of events three weeks ago as my hot take.
04:27Everything's gone the way that I said it would go until here.
04:30I don't know if they'll get in because they do need a little too much help.
04:33I also don't understand why the NFL put this game second because the Steelers need this
04:36game as well.
04:37Because the Steelers, if the Ravens lose, which they probably won't, but I don't know
04:41why they didn't play the Steelers first.
04:43The Steelers are still trying to win the AFC North, which would be a home playoff game.
04:49If the Steelers lose this game, they might go all the way down to the sixth seed, which
04:53would be substantial because then you have to then go back and play the Ravens.
04:59I'm going to take the Bengals, though.
05:00They're just playing out of this world good.
05:02Joe Burrow, he is going for, I think if he has like 350 yards and three touchdowns in
05:07this game, he'll be the fourth quarterback all time to go for 5,000 yards, 45 touchdowns
05:12That's insane.
05:13Good.
05:14Just wild.
05:15Lord, man.
05:16And I want to just say, the craziest part about that stat, Peyton was 2013 Peyton, 2018
05:22Mahomes, and then the other one is 1984 Dan Marino.
05:26Dan Marino doing that in 1984 is pretty insane.
05:28Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:29It's fucking nuts.
05:30Back when it was all about running the ball.
05:31Right, right.
05:32Giving 5,000 yards.
05:33Right, right.
05:34Crazy.
05:35But yeah, and then Jamar Chase going for the triple crown.
05:36He should get it.
05:37Yeah, I'll take the Bengals.
05:39They're just, I mean, they're back against the wall.
05:41The Steelers, I don't know what's going on with the Steelers.
05:43You hear it every single week.
05:45Everyone gets in front of the press, TJ Watt, Cam Hayward, I think Patrick Queen even, they're
05:50like 10 guys are doing one thing and one guy's doing his own, and I don't know if that's
05:54been fixed.
05:55That feels like bad.
05:56It's not good.
05:57It's not good.
05:58They all keep saying that.
05:59I know, and the few clips that I've seen on the Steelers, those plays were on Patrick
06:06Queen.
06:07Oh.
06:08Those plays that people are talking about.
06:09The Steelers, Travis Kelce being wide open.
06:10Could be Cam Sutton.
06:11Yeah, but then.
06:12Could be Cam Sutton.
06:13I have no clue.
06:14I'm not in the locker room.
06:15I like the Bengals.
06:17I think the Steelers have a massive problem in the first quarter.
06:20They haven't scored a touchdown in the last six games in the first quarter.
06:23So they do not start very fast at all.
06:25Bengals will start fast.
06:26I feel like they'll get up on them early, and I feel like the Steelers just are not
06:29built to play from behind.
06:30So I'm taking the Bengals all the way.
06:32I think Russell Wilson started off hot to the point where we were actually in the locker
06:35room and I made a public apology to Russell Wilson because I thought he was terrible.
06:37You should have done that.
06:38I never did that.
06:40I apologize.
06:41Things go the opposite way.
06:42Russell's really done this.
06:43Well, Joe Burrow has kind of turned himself.
06:44If you took records out the window, I think Joe Burrow is our obvious MVP this year.
06:48Our obvious MVP.
06:49He's taking a team that has a really bad defense, gives up a lot of points, and he's still.
06:52I mean, he's got weapons on the outside, no doubt about it.
06:54But he is putting this team on his back.
06:57They're hot right now.
06:58They won like five in a row.
06:59They're catching steam at the right time.
07:01Obviously two other games have to happen for them to win.
07:03I think the Bengals take care of business, though, and control what they can control.
07:06Joe Burrow deserves to be in the playoffs.
07:08Joe Burrow deserves.
07:09I don't know if he does.
07:10Joe Burrow does.
07:11The Bengals don't.
07:12Joe Burrow does.
07:13Right.
07:14Joe Burrow does.
07:15I'm just saying, Joe Burrow's a person.
07:16You shouldn't be that handsome and that talented and all of the things, objectively, my God,
07:20what a man rocket he is.
07:21Yeah.
07:22It shouldn't be fair.
07:23There was a tweet that went viral last week that was like, oh, I'm Joe Burrow.
07:26Yeah, I saw that.
07:27I have a fucking Batmobile.
07:28Every woman on the planet thinks I'm attractive, and it's true.
07:29Yeah.
07:30He really does have everything.
07:31He's got a Batmobile?
07:32Fuck you, man.
07:33Yeah.
07:34He's living every eight-year-old's dream.
07:35Yeah.
07:36He's got a Batmobile and then has a swimsuit model as his house sitter, who may or may
07:39not be a lesbian.
07:40Yeah.
07:41We don't know.
07:42I mean, he won that game against the Broncos three times, and it was the kicker and the
07:45coach fucking him up.
07:46So it's like he went three game-winning drives.
07:48He's doing everything.
07:49But yeah, the Bengals as a team do not deserve to be in the playoffs just because of who
07:53they've lost to, the games they've lost, the defense, the way it's played, but Joe Burrow's
07:56been out of his mind.
07:57Yeah.
07:58One final.
07:59Okay.
08:00I think the biggest flex is that his model house sitter would be a lesbian.
08:02I think that's possibly the biggest flex you could have.
08:04Oh, absolutely.
08:05Yeah, it's crazy.
08:07He's got the best life.
08:08He's got it all.
08:09Congrats, man.
08:10Joe, congrats, brother.
08:11Hey, Joe, congrats.
08:12God gave with every hand.
08:13Yeah.
08:14Congrats on being just like the hottest man alive.
08:15Yeah.
08:16Congrats, Joe.
08:17Has it all.
08:18Hit a perfect gritty.
08:19Come on, bustin' with the boys.
08:20Yep.
08:21Okay.
08:22So speaking of needing other games, the Chiefs at the Broncos, because the Chiefs are sitting
08:23everybody, Carson Wentz is most likely starting.
08:25The Broncos minus 10 and a half.
08:27The Broncos need to lose to the Chiefs in order to help get the Bengals in.
08:31Will big spread here.
08:32We know the Chiefs have already secured their spot.
08:34Do you think they could still do it with their backups?
08:36I think Broncos win, but the Chiefs cover.
08:38I think Carson Wentz will get his chance to play, and again, defensively, we were talking
08:42about it the other day, Taylor, but you sit Chris Jones, there's not going to be a lot
08:46of guys that sit on defense.
08:47They have a very good defense.
08:48I think they keep it close.
08:49So I'm going to take the Chiefs with the points here, and again, the last four times they've
08:53been in this spot, the Chiefs, their record is two and two in sitting guys, so I'm still
08:57taking the Chiefs with the points.
08:58Taylor?
08:59Yeah, I like the Chiefs with the points.
09:01I feel kind of spicy about taking the Chiefs overall money line, because it's still Carson
09:05Wentz.
09:06He's still a guy that was an MVP caliber guy, was an MVP guy, and when he gets on the field,
09:11he's not going to play the game getting ready for the playoffs.
09:13He's playing the game to prove to 31 other teams that he's still a guy.
09:16You've got talent on the edge, like Hollywood Brown.
09:18He went down in September with a collarbone.
09:21He's still working his way back in.
09:22He's had a couple of catches, but you're going to have talent all over the field.
09:25Noah Terry's going to replace Travis Kelsey.
09:27I think he's going to have a big game.
09:29There's a lot of talent still on the field for the Kansas City Chiefs, and the Broncos,
09:32the situation they were in, they needed to win one of their last three games to make
09:36the playoffs, cement themselves.
09:38They've lost two in a row, so they're kind of doing this, and they're scrambling a little
09:42bit.
09:43Bo Nix, ultimate pro, ultimate pro guy.
09:45We love Bo Nix, but I can see the Chiefs pulling this one off.
09:49I can see Carson Wentz doing a Carson Wentz type thing and just winning this game.
09:52I agree with you.
09:53I think the Chiefs could win this game.
09:56There's just so much pressure on the Broncos, and the way the season has gone at the end
10:00of the season, they've just struggled a lot, and you thought they were going to be okay
10:05with Riley Moss.
10:06He got torched.
10:07Torched.
10:08He did.
10:09We took a big hit.
10:10Yeah, that was tough.
10:11That was tough.
10:12I didn't come home from that one.
10:13But yeah, I think Kansas City-
10:14But Cam Scatterboo.
10:15Yeah.
10:16Cam Scatterboo.
10:17Cam Scatterboo.
10:18Are you ready to admit the Chiefs are really good?
10:19The Chiefs are a really good team.
10:21They're top five.
10:22Oh, okay.
10:23They're not the best team in the NFL.
10:24They won 15 games.
10:25I understand that, but they won all of them within one score.
10:28They know how to win.
10:29They know how to win.
10:30What does it matter?
10:31What does it matter?
10:32If they win the Super Bowl by two points, you're going to be like, wow, they only won
10:35by two points.
10:36Do you think the Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl?
10:37I do.
10:38Do you have a future on that?
10:39I do not.
10:40Who's your future on it?
10:41I have one on the Chargers.
10:42That's it.
10:43Forty to one.
10:44Who are you thinking about more in the playoffs, outside of the Chargers?
10:46Eagles if Jalen Hurts gets healthy.
10:49He's in concussion protocol.
10:50The Chiefs only have to win one game to get into the Super Bowl.
10:54They're going to play—I mean, maybe it's the Chargers and it's tough to beat a team
10:58three times, but they're going to play the Chargers, Steelers, or Texans in the second
11:02round at home.
11:05They got to win one game.
11:07They got to beat the Ravens or the Bills at home, and it's like it's Patrick Mahomes
11:10and Sandy Reid.
11:11Basically, what Big Cat is saying is the Chiefs are so good, they got to double by and make
11:13it right to the AFC championship.
11:15Essentially, that one seed was crazy in the AFC because it's not like the NFC one seed
11:19where the NFC has a Vikings or the Lions are going to end up being the five seed where
11:24it's like there's going to be dangerous teams no matter what.
11:27The AFC has three teams.
11:29It's the Chiefs, it's the Ravens, and the Bills.
11:31Would you guys agree?
11:32Yeah.
11:33There's no other team that's going to win the AFC.
11:34They just put themselves in a hole by beating the Chiefs.
11:36Every year, the Bills—
11:37I know.
11:38They beat them in the regular season.
11:39They beat them in the regular season, and they lose in the playoffs.
11:40But with the AFC picture, the Ravens and Bills are going to play each other, and the Chiefs
11:44are going to sit there.
11:45They're going to fucking kill whoever comes to them in the first round.
11:48They're going to get the rust off, and then they're going to go to the Super Bowl.
11:52I hope they don't.
11:53I'm not rooting for the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl.
11:54Listen, you're making a lot of good points.
11:56I'm mentally getting myself ready that come the second week in February, and we're all
12:00sitting here and being like, they fucking did it again, I at least will not be surprised
12:04by it.
12:05Fair.
12:06If the Bills go to Arrowhead, I will bet on the Bills, and I hope the Bills beat them.
12:11But I'm not going to fucking—I'm not going to be like, holy shit, they did it again.
12:16Because they're going to probably do it again.
12:17They're going to probably do it again, unless Joe Burrow and the Bengals get in the playoffs.
12:21No, that's the dumbest thing ever.
12:23No, it's not.
12:24Yes, it is.
12:25I want him in the playoffs so bad.
12:26Two years ago, we were sitting there with the mayor of Cincinnati saying that Burrow
12:28had all those—
12:29And what has happened since?
12:30They're a record team.
12:31And what has happened since?
12:32They're like 3-2.
12:33No, the Chiefs have beaten them three times.
12:34So it's 3-2.
12:35No, the Bengals haven't beaten them.
12:36What are you talking about?
12:37The Bengals haven't beaten them since the AFC championship game.
12:38No, it was 3-0.
12:39It was 3-0.
12:40I understand.
12:41Since then.
12:42What are you saying?
12:43Since the mayor commented.
12:45And I don't think the Chiefs give a fuck.
12:47The Chiefs don't give a fuck about the Bengals.
12:49The Bengals' defense sucks.
12:50The Chiefs will kill the Bengals.
12:52I do not—
12:53I haven't scored 30 points.
12:54You're the Kansas City Chiefs.
12:55Do you think Patrick Mahomes is like, man, I don't want to play the Bengals?
12:58Yeah.
12:59No fucking way.
13:00No, that defense is so bad.
13:01No fucking way.
13:02They've beaten them three times in a row.
13:03I think of all the teams, it's probably what they're most afraid of.
13:04No fucking way.
13:05Joe Burrow.
13:06No.
13:07There's no way.
13:08The defense might be scared of Joe Burrow, but Patrick Mahomes is not scared of their
13:10defense.
13:11I don't think Patrick Mahomes is scared of him.
13:13You should have zero fear about the Bengals.
13:15You should fear maybe the Ravens, maybe the Bills, but come on.
13:18The Bengals, their defense is so bad.
13:19Ravens is literally one toe over.
13:21Listen, there's an old saying.
13:22If you're in Week 18 and you need help everywhere else, that's probably a sign you're not a
13:28great team.
13:29That's a saying.
13:30That's a saying.
13:31I just came up with it.
13:32There's an old saying.
13:33I just came up with it.
13:34Velocity.
13:35Velocity by Big Cat.
13:36Big Cat, you make the most sense.
13:37You make the most sense about that, especially how you just—that was a masterpiece of playing
13:40at the playoffs, and you are right about that.
13:43So are the Chiefs the best team in the NFL?
13:45No.
13:46The Chiefs are not going to win the Super Bowl this year.
13:47Who's the best team in the NFL?
13:50Vikings.
13:51Okay.
13:52No, Bills.
13:53Oh, okay.
13:54I'll switch fast.
13:55He was so sure it wasn't the Chiefs.
13:58Bills, Vikings, Lions.
14:00Listen, if the Lions win on Sunday night against the Vikings, the Bills will be the first team
14:06ever to beat two 15-win teams in a season.
14:10That's pretty crazy.
14:11That's why they're the best team in the NFL.
14:12Yeah.
14:13And that is why the Chiefs won't make it to the Super Bowl.
14:15Bills' defense also says that.
14:16But if they do make it to the Super Bowl, they will lose the Super Bowl.
14:19Yeah, because he always loses.
14:20That's why the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl.
14:21Always, yeah.
14:22Put your futures in now.
14:23So speaking of that Vikings and Lions game, it is the game of the week presented by the
14:27Chevy Silverado.
14:28Sunday night football.
14:29The Lions minus 2.5.
14:30Dan, as you mentioned, the winner of this game gets the number one seed.
14:33The loser gets the number five seed.
14:35So Taylor, I'll start with you on this.
14:37The Lions beating the 49ers the way they did last week.
14:40The Vikings beating the Packers.
14:41I mean, all eyes on this game.
14:43Who gets the number one seed?
14:44Two teams with fantastic cultures.
14:47The post-game last week of the Vikings with Kevin O'Connell watching his team put Sam
14:51Darden on their shoulders and just sitting back and admiring that is beautiful.
14:55Dan Campbell, also, calling guys ankle biters, we're going to bite him in the kneecaps.
14:59He has a mentality about him that his team definitely reflects.
15:03The Vikings are seven and one in one score games.
15:06The one being...
15:07Eight and one.
15:08Sorry, eight and one.
15:09The one being the Lions, and the Lions already beat them in Minnesota.
15:14I think the Lions win at home.
15:16That environment is going to be nuts.
15:17Awesome.
15:18I told the story already on The Locker Room.
15:20However, in August, we went to Detroit and watched a practice.
15:24Then some lady who was from Detroit showed us around the stadium.
15:27Tears welled up in her eyes talking about what the Lions have done for that city.
15:32That city lives and breathes for that team, and it is going to be insane.
15:36I just think there's not a way the Lions don't do it this way.
15:39What did you guys think about Dan Campbell playing everyone on Monday Night Football?
15:43I loved it.
15:44People were freaking out.
15:45This is kind of my whole point with Dan Campbell going for on fourth downs that you don't like.
15:49They've set a culture, and he's set an expectation.
15:52Everyone in that locker room knows what he's going to do.
15:55He's consistent as consistent could be.
15:57Yeah, I guess, obviously, you're like, oh, well, this game means nothing.
16:00I think it means the Lions' edge, you can lose that edge if you go in that game and
16:05you sit everyone.
16:06They wanted to go in and get revenge.
16:08They wanted to stay sharp.
16:09I think the Lions are going to win this game, too.
16:11I do.
16:12Their defense is a problem.
16:14It's a very big problem.
16:16They're probably going to get torched at certain points in this game, but I think this is going
16:20to be such a fun game because I think Dan Campbell's not going to hold anything back.
16:23Ben Johnson's not going to hold anything back.
16:25They're going to empty it.
16:27And actually, I have a question for you, Will, as a defensive guy, because I see this all
16:31the time when Ben Johnson does a trick play and everyone's like, why would you waste it
16:34on the Bears?
16:35Why would you waste it on the Niners?
16:38When you do a trick play in regular season, doesn't that make it more difficult for a
16:43team going into the playoffs where it's another thing they have to think about?
16:46Yeah, you have to practice it on Thursday and Friday, that one formation, that one motion,
16:50that one play that they did.
16:51You have to be ready in this situation.
16:53Is it on the fringe?
16:54Is it in the red zone?
16:55Yeah, it is.
16:56It's just an extra thing you have to prepare for.
16:58And they're not going to run the same trick play again, but you're sitting there obsessing
17:01about it, preparing for it.
17:02Like, hey, here's where this trick play comes from.
17:04But the Jared Goff fake, fake stumble play against the Bears, everyone's like, why would
17:09you waste it on the Bears?
17:10Like, dude, now any time Jared Goff has even a little bit of a footing problem, just handing
17:15it off on a regular handoff, the whole defense is going to be like, oh fuck, are they running
17:18that play?
17:19Right.
17:20Like, that's a crazy play to then put into the defense's mind.
17:23It gives you a little split second hesitation that you'll have every single time he goes
17:27to hand the ball off.
17:28When the Packers were playing the Bears earlier that season, Jordan Love stumbled.
17:32He actually stumbled.
17:34Yes, yes.
17:35And the receiver got behind.
17:36And that's where Ben Johnson found that play and utilized it again.
17:39Future Bears head coach.
17:40Hopefully.
17:41Is he?
17:42Hopefully.
17:43Dude, it's literally all I have.
17:44I heard some things about him.
17:45Yeah, I know.
17:46I've heard the same things as you, OK?
17:47What did you hear?
17:48About who?
17:49About Ben Johnson?
17:50Yeah.
17:51Yeah, I've heard the same things.
17:52What have you heard?
17:53You know, I talked to somebody yesterday.
17:54I don't want to say the take live, because all of my takes I've ever had from somebody
17:56I've heard it from has always gone to shit.
17:58But I'll say it after the show.
17:59OK.
18:00Well, we know it's going to be shit, so why not just say it?
18:01Yeah.
18:02Not a leader of men.
18:03But he's saying it's not on camera.
18:04Not a leader of men.
18:05I don't give a fuck.
18:06I don't give a fuck.
18:07He said it.
18:08That was it.
18:09Yeah.
18:10I don't give a fuck.
18:11Which is incredible.
18:12Why not Mike Vrabel?
18:13I would love Mike Vrabel.
18:14Why not Gruden?
18:15Because he works for Marshall Sports.
18:16Because he's a Bear guy.
18:17We were laughing the other day in the locker room that hopefully you guys have like a no
18:18trade clause.
18:19Like he can't.
18:20I would hope that he can't.
18:21Like, hey, in this fine print right here.
18:22I mean, if he took the Bears job, it would be the only job I'd be like, OK, it sucks,
18:23but at least maybe we'll see him.
18:24Yeah.
18:26If he went to the Bears, like you, you'd be even more of a Bear.
18:27Yeah, you should.
18:28Yeah, I know.
18:29I might roster me.
18:30Yes.
18:31You get to like call a couple of plays.
18:32Imagine if Gruden was the Bears head coach for 15 years and I beat Will in years in the
18:33NFL.
18:34It would be incredible.
18:35And he'd beat you too.
18:36Yeah.
18:37It would be incredible.
18:38Yeah.
18:39Yeah.
18:40Yeah.
18:41Yeah.
18:42Yeah.
18:43Yeah.
18:44Yeah.
18:45Yeah.
18:46Yeah.
18:47Yeah.
18:48Yeah.
18:49Yeah.
18:50Yeah.
18:51Yeah.
18:52Yeah.
18:53Yeah.
18:54Yeah.
18:55Yeah.
18:56Yeah.
18:58Yeah.
18:59Yeah.
19:00Yeah.
19:01Yeah.
19:02Yeah.
19:03Yeah.
19:04Yeah.
19:05I may beat you too.
19:06Yeah, I'd beat you too.
19:07That's all right.
19:08I just think it's funny.
19:09OK, Will, who are you taking?
19:10I'm going with the Vikings.
19:11I'm going with Sam Donald.
19:12I think he comes down to defense.
19:13Although, Minnesota does come after quarterback a lot.
19:14Jared Goff is very good, and that offense is unreal.
19:15I just think the Lions have a lot of question marks on defense.
19:16They have injuries everywhere.
19:17I think the way...
19:18Not really.
19:19No, no, no, go ahead.
19:20Keep going.
19:21I like what you say.
19:22offensively, and somebody like Justin Jefferson, who wants it just as bad, I said it last week,
19:26as the bottom guy on the roster, when a play breaks down, his effort, his speed, they got
19:32guys everywhere.
19:33Addison, who's the other receiver, 83?
19:35Naylor?
19:36Naylor.
19:37They have studs everywhere.
19:38Aaron Jones out of the backfield.
19:40I just think what they have going on in Minnesota, they're one of the best teams in the NFL that
19:44just doesn't get talked about in that category with the Bills and everybody else.
19:47Oh, I agree.
19:48I agree.
19:49Kevin O'Connell, coach of the year.
19:50I like the Vikings.
19:51Yeah.
19:52I was just thinking, they do blitz a lot, but the Lions' offensive line is elite.
19:56Best in the league.
19:57You have to get pressure with four at some point, you know what I mean?
20:01You can't just blitz the whole game, because the Lions will just have a guy open every
20:05single time.
20:06Right.
20:07Because the Lions do have a ton of weapons.
20:08Yeah.
20:09It's going to be an awesome game.
20:10Awesome game.
20:11It's going to be awesome.
20:12And the fact that it is, it's like an extended playoff.
20:13They're playing for a one seed.
20:15Yeah, I know.
20:16It's huge.
20:17Well, if not, you're a fifth seed, and you've got to go on the road.
20:18You've got to go on the road.
20:19Yeah.
20:20It's crazy.
20:21All right.
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20:40Okay, Will, your playbook pick this week is the Commanders at the Cowboys.
20:44Yeah, I'm taking Commanders.
20:45I'm taking momentum going into the playoffs.
20:47Last week, I was swinging at the air, screaming at the TV on that touchdown they gave up to
20:52go into overtime, because they're in a cover two red zone defense, and the guys are, when
20:55the ball is being thrown, they're at like the three and four yard line, versus having
21:00the heels on the goal line.
21:02But I'm going with the Commanders.
21:03Again, I think this team is a wagon going into the playoffs.
21:08I think they can do some damage in the playoffs, but they have to get a win against Dallas,
21:11and they have to kind of, they kind of have to, what's the word I'm looking for, Big Cat?
21:15Revenge.
21:16Revenge.
21:18I'm leaning back on the Cowboys from the Cowboys beating them a few weeks ago.
21:19The Cowboys are so bad.
21:21They're not that bad.
21:22I mean, they're not, yeah, I mean, they're not, they've won some games as of late.
21:25Yeah.
21:26Yeah, I mean, I know the Eagles are, I mean, that game last week was horrendous.
21:29Cooper Rush is really bad against the Eagles.
21:31He's played them three times, he's, I think he has 330 yards total against the Eagles
21:35in three games.
21:36I'm taking the Cowboys in this game.
21:38I think there's just an emotional, there's got to be an emotional letdown a little bit
21:42for the Commanders, where it's like, you make the playoffs, that game was electric.
21:47That last drive by Jaden Daniels was out of this world good.
21:50They're in the playoffs.
21:51I know seeding is still up there, but there's just a little bit of like, hey, we did it.
21:57You know what I mean?
21:58We're in, and I think there's a little, they didn't get caught.
22:01They can't sit that way because their defense has to have something going into the playoffs.
22:07That's their big question mark.
22:08So, I mean, this is a question for you guys that have played like week 18.
22:11The Cowboys obviously not in the playoffs, and I know a couple weeks ago they played
22:14spoiler, but like, what's the vibe in that locker room, like going into week 18, like
22:18this is the last game.
22:19Like, aren't they counting down to like Cancun or something?
22:20Yeah, they're counting down to Cancun, but they're also saying, hey, let's ruin somebody's
22:23season a little bit.
22:24And there's a lot of guys that are probably, especially with Mike McCarthy, we don't know
22:28what's going to happen.
22:29There's a lot of guys that are playing for their next contract somewhere.
22:31Yeah, at one point, when you don't make it to the playoffs, you know there's going to
22:34be a massive change at the head coach and a lot of assistant coaches.
22:37That name on the front gets a little more worn out, and that name in the back gets a
22:41little more bolded.
22:42Yeah.
22:43Okay.
22:44All right, Taylor, are you taking the Commanders or Dallas?
22:45I'm going to take the Commanders.
22:46I'm going to ride with my boy.
22:47I think this game is worthless in so many ways, but I like the Commanders.
22:50Okay.
22:51I like the Daniels.
22:52I like their vibe right now.
22:53I like the energy.
22:54I'm going with Commanders.
22:55Okay.
22:56Of course.
22:57Can you think of a wagon?
22:58Yeah, I take that back.
22:59I was sitting here thinking about it.
23:00I was like, I shouldn't have said wagon, because they're not a wagon.
23:01Like, offensively, they're really good, but defensively, they're not.
23:04Offensively, they're a wagon, maybe.
23:05Yeah.
23:06Could be below that.
23:07Half a wagon.
23:08Yeah.
23:09And I'm glad you brought that back up.
23:10The minute it left my mouth and I finished that entire thing, I was kind of sitting there.
23:13I was like.
23:14Yeah, I mean, James Daniels is a stud, but a wagon.
23:15Yeah.
23:16I like the.
23:17Yeah.
23:18Commanders are not wagons.
23:19No, he would have sucked for the Bears.
23:20Why?
23:21Because everyone sucks for the Bears.
23:22So, it's not Caleb's fault?
23:25I've said this before.
23:26When we drafted Mitch, if Patrick Holmes got drafted by the Bears, he would have got hit
23:30by a bus.
23:31Like, that's just how it goes.
23:33So, speaking of the Bears, your playbook picked, Dan.
23:35I wish they would forfeit this game.
23:37I wish they would just not play this game.
23:39Speaking of.
23:40I don't want to play this game.
23:41I'm so.
23:42I'm just.
23:43I'm so exhausted.
23:44That was one of the worst games ever last Thursday night.
23:48They did cover, though.
23:50I'll take the Bears, I guess.
23:51I don't fucking know.
23:52The Packers are playing everyone, so.
23:54Jordan Love stinks.
23:55Fuck Jordan Love.
23:57He does.
23:58He just throws off his back foot all the time for no reason.
24:01It looks pretty.
24:0211-5.
24:03But he misses throws because of it.
24:05Well.
24:06Hold on.
24:07He went 9-5.
24:09Malik Willis went 2-0.
24:10You're right.
24:11Okay?
24:12So.
24:13Against the Titans and who else?
24:14Hang on.
24:15I'm just saying.
24:16I'm just saying.
24:17Malik Willis, I think Colts, went 2-0.
24:19I'll take the Packers.
24:20Yeah.
24:21Based off the way Big Cat just talks about the entire Bears franchise, if a fan is feeling
24:25that way, you know the walking squad is feeling that way, I'll take the Packers.
24:28It's very bad.
24:29I mean, they lost.
24:30Shout out Matt LaFleur, too.
24:31They did cover, but it's 6-3.
24:32Like, they just.
24:33They can't score right now.
24:34They can't do anything.
24:35They can't score.
24:36They can play defense.
24:37They can run the ball well.
24:38There's a lot of finger pointing from the defense to the offense after that game.
24:40Yeah.
24:41Where do we stand on Caleb, Dan?
24:43We need Ben Johnson.
24:45That's where we stand.
24:46We need Ben Johnson.
24:47We need Ben Johnson.
24:48We need Ben Johnson.
24:49We need Mike Vrabel.
24:50I would love Mike Vrabel.
24:51Who would you rather have?
24:52I think I'd rather have Ben Johnson, but if it was Mike Vrabel, I would be just as happy.
24:58What about Mike Vrabel and Arthur Smith at OC?
25:01Or Ben Johnson?
25:02I could be in for that.
25:04I want Ben Johnson because I want the Bears to do something they never do.
25:07They never fucking go and get the best guy and pay him a shitload of money.
25:11They're a fucking cheap mom-and-pop organization.
25:13Do you know how much the Bears.
25:15Do you know how much George Halas, who's Virginia McCaskey's father.
25:19Virginia McCaskey's still alive, 101 years old.
25:21She's whatever.
25:24Do you know how much he bought the Bears for?
25:27How much?
25:28$100.
25:29Really?
25:30$100.
25:31Great investment.
25:32Sell them for $200.
25:33They've fucking done nothing.
25:34I said that they should, if the Bears were moral and just, they should just do a raffle
25:41and one fan gets to buy the team for $100.
25:43$200.
25:44You've got to make profit.
25:45$200.
25:46Fine.
25:47That's 100% profit.
25:48Done.
25:49Okay, Taylor, your playbook pick, the Dolphins at the Jets.
25:51Yeah, Dolphins have playoff implications.
25:53Jets stink.
25:55Jets get mothed.
25:56Aaron Rodgers goes on the sidelines and says, hey, how about a tie run?
25:59But I think in this situation and wanting the Bengals to get in the playoffs really bad,
26:03I'm going to take the Jets.
26:04I think Aaron Rodgers and the Jets, that marriage has not worked out the way it should,
26:09but Aaron is a great villain in these types of scenarios.
26:12To take the Dolphins out in an in-division game and also kind of leave on a high note,
26:18which I think he won't be at the Jets next year, is a very Aaron Rodgers thing to do.
26:21Dan?
26:22Yeah, I'll take the Jets.
26:24I mean, it's just, there's no reason for them to win this game, so they'll win this game.
26:28Will?
26:29I'll ride that.
26:30Okay.
26:31I was thinking Dolphins, because it's like—
26:33I mean, statistically, defensively, offensively, everything, Dolphins are better.
26:37Yeah.
26:38But the villain role is there.
26:39I think it is Tyler Huntley again, though.
26:40The villain role is there.
26:41Yeah.
26:42And again, I want to see Joe Burrow.
26:43And also, it's Week 18.
26:44There's like a handful of games that actually matter.
26:45Yeah.
26:46And this situation—
26:47I'm going to go Dolphins.
26:48Yeah?
26:49Yeah.
26:50I mean, they're in the same exact spot as the Bengals, but they don't need anything from the Bengals.
26:53They win, and the Chiefs—
26:55And that's why the Jets will win.
26:56Yeah.
26:58I'm going Dolphins.
26:59I'm going Dolphins.
27:00Okay.
27:01Let's go to the Fireball Rapid-Fire Picks of the Week.
27:02Will, go ahead and take that shot.
27:04Warm yourself up.
27:05The Rapid-Fire Pick segment is presented by Fireball Whiskey.
27:07So many things make football great, but you know what the best thing is?
27:09It's kicking the living shit out of your rival.
27:11I'm sorry, Dan.
27:12We've got the Bears at Green Bay this week.
27:14And Fireball Whiskey is here to give you that spark to ignite the rivalry all season long.
27:18Grab your football buddy, buy a round, and reignite that flame.
27:21Okay.
27:22Oh, wait.
27:23I forgot one last sad Bears thing, trivia question.
27:25When was the last time the Bears won a road game on a Sunday?
27:302019.
27:31No, not that bad.
27:32Come on.
27:332021.
27:342021.
27:35Week 15, 2021.
27:36That's bad.
27:37Nick Foles in Seattle.
27:38That's very bad.
27:39That's crazy.
27:40That is bad.
27:4120 in a row.
27:42Sunday road losses.
27:43It's 2025.
27:44Yeah, it's now 2025.
27:45Yeah.
27:46It's gross.
27:47Long time ago.
27:48Okay.
27:49So, we'll all start with you.
27:50The Browns at the Ravens.
27:51The Ravens minus 18.
27:52A lot of points, but I'm taking the Ravens.
27:54The Browns suck.
27:55I mean, I don't know why they're not playing Jameis.
27:57They won a tank.
27:58I'm going Ravens.
27:59Yeah.
28:00I think they get rolling going into the playoffs.
28:02Yeah.
28:03Agreed.
28:04DTR, I've just made money off DTR.
28:05He's not an NFL quarterback.
28:07They keep putting him out there.
28:08Yeah.
28:09He's started five games.
28:10The offense has scored 37 points total.
28:12Why do they keep doing it?
28:13I don't know.
28:14They want a better draft pick?
28:15I don't know.
28:16I saw they redid DeSean's concert.
28:17If they keep putting DTR out there, I'm going to keep betting against DTR.
28:20No offense to DTR.
28:21No disrespect to DTR.
28:22I'm taking the Ravens.
28:23Ravens?
28:24Yes.
28:25Okay.
28:26All right, Dan.
28:27The Saints at the Bucs.
28:28The Bucs minus 13.5.
28:29The Bucs?
28:30Yeah, I'll take the Bucs.
28:31I mean, they do have to win, obviously, to win the NFC South.
28:36They also have – like, Baker's got a lot of incentives I was looking at.
28:40Mike Evans got some incentives.
28:41Mike Evans got a big incentive.
28:42He's got 3 million, I think, if he gets 85 yards and five catches.
28:45Five catches, 85 yards.
28:47Baker gets 500K.
28:48That's a good top right there.
28:49Yeah.
28:50Baker gets 500K for every statistical category he finishes top five in,
28:55and he's, like, second, third, fourth in, like, all of them.
29:00So it's like he still has to –
29:01Good props.
29:02Yeah, yeah.
29:03Good props.
29:04So, yeah, I'll take the Bucs.
29:05Taylor?
29:06Yeah, Bucs for all those reasons.
29:07Bucs.
29:08Bucs across the board.
29:09Bucs, Bucs, Bucs.
29:10Okay.
29:11Taylor, the Bills at the Patriots.
29:12The Bills minus 2.5.
29:13Bills.
29:14It's as simple as that.
29:15Patriots are just – they're done.
29:16They're washed.
29:17Getting beat by the Chargers the way they did last week.
29:20They're looking for next year.
29:21They're looking for next year.
29:22There's rumors about them shopping Drake May to go take Shadar Sanders
29:25and all these different things.
29:26They're already looking to the offseason.
29:28Again, let me get the Bills.
29:29Dan?
29:30I'm going to take the Patriots just because Gerard Mayo is coaching for his job,
29:34even though it is his job to coach,
29:36and I think the Bills will probably sit some starters in the second half.
29:41So here's a fun thing that I'm going to try to figure out.
29:44I'm going to crack this code.
29:45You can follow me on all my socials.
29:48The Bills have tied the record for most amount of players
29:55to catch a touchdown pass in a season at 13,
29:59and I read a report this week that they're pretty pumped to maybe get that record.
30:04So we've got to find who's the 14th guy they're going to throw to.
30:08Because that feels like it's like they're going to do that.
30:10It's like a team win kind of thing.
30:12Barso Big Cat.
30:13At Barso Big Cat on all my socials.
30:16Follow me on all my socials, Snapchat, TikTok.
30:19Do you actually have a Snapchat?
30:21I do not have a Snapchat.
30:22I have a TikTok, but I don't know how to log into it.
30:28You know what?
30:29I'm going to release this pic on TikTok.
30:32Or somebody is.
30:33Somebody's going to release it on Barso Big Cat.
30:35Yes.
30:36Okay, Will, who are you taking?
30:37I'm going to go Bills here.
30:39Even though Mayo, he is coaching for his job,
30:41I think they're kind of looking to the future.
30:42Yeah, his job is to coach.
30:44And follow Barso Big Cat.
30:45But I am going to go with the Bills.
30:47Even if they said a lot of players in the second half, I think Bills.
30:50This is all leading to my hot take, by the way.
30:52So I have to set it up.
30:53So that's why I took the Patriots.
30:54Quite a tease.
30:55Quite a tease.
30:56Okay, Will, back to you.
30:57The Giants at the Eagles.
30:58The Eagles minus two and a half.
31:03Eagles.
31:04I'm going to go Eagles.
31:06Giants got a big win.
31:07They scored 45 last week against the Colts.
31:09But I am going.
31:10I'm going with the Eagles.
31:11I know Saquon's not playing.
31:12I feel like that team has as good as talent across the roster,
31:14even their depth.
31:16I like the Eagles.
31:18Dan?
31:19I'm going to take the Giants.
31:20I mean, Eagles are sitting everyone.
31:22Oh, Tanner McKee.
31:23He might be the future.
31:25Did you think that Saquon would play to try to beat the record?
31:27I did.
31:28I thought he was, yeah.
31:29I think it was a tough decision.
31:31Trying to get 100 in the first half.
31:33Reading everything.
31:34He had 101.
31:35Yeah, reading everything, it sounded like a tough decision.
31:38But they got bigger goals.
31:42Yeah, I'll take the Giants.
31:43They're so stupid.
31:44They're going to win this game and end up with, like, the eighth pick.
31:46They're so stupid.
31:47So stupid.
31:48They're so stupid.
31:49But winning last week.
31:50Running that touchdown last week.
31:51So lose the number one pick.
31:52God, lost the number one pick.
31:54Yeah, I'll take the Giants.
31:55I took the Eagles, but that's what I thought Saquon was playing.
31:57I knew Lane Johnson really wanted to get that record.
32:01Well, he's not playing.
32:02So I'll take the Giants.
32:03Okay.
32:04Dan, Panthers at Falcons.
32:05Falcons minus eight.
32:07Panthers are scrappy.
32:08I'm going to take the Falcons.
32:09The Panthers have a shitload of injuries on defense
32:11that you could see when they played the Bucs last week.
32:15I think J.C. Horn was out.
32:16I think Josie Jewell was out.
32:18You know, Chubba is out for the season.
32:21I'll take the Falcons.
32:22Taylor?
32:23Yeah, I'm going to take the Falcons as well.
32:25I think Panicks, they see a little juice there.
32:27They're going to open up that playbook quite a bit.
32:28Be like, let's see what we really got in this guy in the last game of the season.
32:31I think the Falcons cover.
32:32Will?
32:33I like the Falcons as well.
32:34The Panthers, they had a little bit of swagger
32:36and energy coming off that win a couple weeks ago.
32:38I think just getting destroyed by the Buccaneers last week,
32:42they're just going to limp in.
32:43They're ready to get the season over with.
32:45Okay, Taylor, the Texans at the Titans.
32:47Texans minus one.
32:49Pass.
32:50Pass, okay.
32:51This is the Titans are wearing the Oilers uniform.
32:53Yep.
32:54Which is bullshit.
32:55Why?
32:56Because it should be the huge—I mean, I think we both agree
32:59that they should play this game for the uniform.
33:01Yes, I agree with that.
33:02It should be a uniform game.
33:03I agree with that.
33:04I'll take the Titans.
33:06Titans are the worst team against the spread of all time, 2-14.
33:11But the Texans aren't playing anyone, I believe, and they're banged up.
33:15They're limping into the playoffs.
33:17This is another one where it's like, yeah, I guess the Titans might just win this game.
33:21Do you know who all they're sitting?
33:23I don't know.
33:24Collins is sitting.
33:25I think Stroud's sitting.
33:26Dude, I'm going Texas because I feel like after two points last week,
33:30you got to have something going into the playoffs.
33:32You got to have something.
33:33They also lost to the Titans the last time they played.
33:36Yeah, that's true.
33:37This is a game, though.
33:38Two points.
33:39Like, Titans at home, the other team's sitting, everybody.
33:42This is a game the Titans lose.
33:44This is a game the Titans should win, and they are going to lose.
33:46Exactly.
33:47There you go.
33:48Which sucks.
33:49I hate the fact that the franchise is in this position right now.
33:51They have way too much talent to be as bad as they are.
33:53I think next year, I mean, I'll have the same hope as I do every year.
33:55They'll be 17-0.
33:57Is there a part of you that's like,
33:59Yeah, Titans have never been the same since I left.
34:02Yeah.
34:03I would do that.
34:04I would do that for sure.
34:05Little piece.
34:06Like, you guys needed me.
34:07Small piece.
34:08Glue guy.
34:09I was a glue guy.
34:10Culture.
34:11I'm literally every year, I'm thinking to myself,
34:13they haven't been the same since us and Bo Pelini.
34:19You're telling yourself that in the mirror, too.
34:21Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:22They needed me.
34:23One more year removed from the 90s, we become the regime.
34:26The gold standard.
34:27Yeah, we're becoming the gold standard.
34:29Okay, so the boys are going with the Texans.
34:31Dan's going with the Titans.
34:32Yes.
34:33Okay.
34:34All right, well, the Jags at the Colts.
34:35Colts minus four and a half.
34:36Don't care.
34:37Yeah.
34:38Don't care, don't care.
34:39Don't care.
34:40I'll take the –
34:41Give me the Jaguars.
34:42Can I take the over in this game?
34:43Give me the Jaguars.
34:44Can I just take the over?
34:45Sure.
34:46All right, I'm just going to take the over.
34:47You're the boss here.
34:48What's the total points?
34:49It's like 48 or something.
34:50Joe Flacco's going to fucking throw.
34:5144.
34:5244, great.
34:53My model had it at 48.
34:55Joe Flacco's going to throw the ball everywhere.
34:57Mack Jones is still playing.
34:59He's kind of in that situation where he's trying to play for a backup job somewhere.
35:02Defenses suck.
35:04Fuck it.
35:05Indoors, fuck it.
35:07Taylor.
35:08Oh, you're taking the over.
35:09Yeah, I'm just taking the over.
35:10Give me the Jags.
35:11Just give me the Jags.
35:12I'll take the Colts then.
35:13Okay, just try.
35:14Try to have Quentin Nelson make another Pro Bowl.
35:15Yes.
35:16Chugged faster than him at the Beer Olympics.
35:18Boom.
35:19That's a fact.
35:20How much faster?
35:21You'll never get that back.
35:22Way faster.
35:23I told Quentin Nelson like six times and he was like, dude, you've told me this six times.
35:26I was like, I'm a little drunk.
35:27He's like, dude, it's 1130 in the morning.
35:30I mean, I feel like you keep telling him.
35:32It was kind of one of those I won the battle, he won the war.
35:34Yeah.
35:35Because I chugged faster than him, but then I was blacked out.
35:37And he was like, that was like a teat up.
35:40But, but.
35:41Have you heard the rumors?
35:42Have you heard the rumors about Beer Olympics?
35:43No.
35:44I heard.
35:45Back to Vegas?
35:46I heard.
35:47We can only pray.
35:49The rumors are next year's the last one ever.
35:51Oh.
35:52Then I'd have to, I'd have to say.
35:53You have to.
35:54Why?
35:55Because you're too old?
35:56I would love a retirement.
35:57I mean, it's fucked me up for like two weeks.
36:00Dude, no doubt.
36:01It was like, I did not feel normal for a long time.
36:03The big thing that one of us is trying to get changed is, is less fluid.
36:06Yes.
36:07Less fluid.
36:08That would be great.
36:09That way we can have like, and get it done more in the middle of the afternoon so that
36:11way we can just have a little puke party.
36:12Yeah.
36:13Yeah.
36:14You're just playing into the dark.
36:15And also I want, I want back to Ari no touching rule.
36:17Because he made me puke when he fucking slapped me in the back.
36:20So I want that.
36:21You got handled that day.
36:22Yeah.
36:23I mean, listen, I, I came, I complained.
36:24Hey, play the clip of me dry humping him, please.
36:26No, but I actually handled you guys when I put on that ref uniform and I had you guys
36:29so mad.
36:30That shit was.
36:31Just blowing the whistle.
36:32I thought we were on the.
36:33No, Taylor looked at me with, with murder in his eyes.
36:36I think I was telling Taylor, hey, he's helping us.
36:39No, no.
36:40And I was like, he's not helping us.
36:41I wasn't.
36:42But it also, it was like, I was already frustrated.
36:43Yeah, I know.
36:44Because it was.
36:45The longest game of beer pong ever.
36:46And you were like, you were just the last guy to say something.
36:48Yeah.
36:49I was like, I gotta, I gotta fucking.
36:50Like when Vince McMahon would put on the ref uniform and just fuck everything up.
36:53God.
36:54You can't, this can't end.
36:55I mean, these memories.
36:56No, it's definitely gotta end.
36:57This, this next year, if it even happens.
36:59It's gotta be it.
37:002025 will be the last one.
37:01It's gotta be it.
37:02It just, it always makes me laugh though, when anything with Shane Gillis goes viral,
37:05like the picture of you like choking him out in the pool, it's always in the replays.
37:08It's gotta end though.
37:09Always.
37:10The way he acts sometimes.
37:11I wish I finished.
37:12Yeah.
37:13Just ended it for him.
37:14Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:15Okay, Taylor, the Chargers at the Raiders.
37:16Chargers minus five.
37:17Horrible.
37:18I'm gonna take the Chargers.
37:19Mm-hmm.
37:20They're playing for a real seed.
37:21I, this is a correlated thing, you, like, it sucks because this is how Week 18 works.
37:26If the Ravens and the Steelers, if the Ravens win, Steelers lose, you gotta take the Chargers.
37:30So I'll take the Chargers.
37:32So what if that doesn't happen?
37:33Are you gonna flip?
37:34Are you gonna have a little contingency?
37:35You know what?
37:36I'll just go Chargers.
37:37Bargain wants to take the Raiders.
37:39But if.
37:40You know, Connell real good.
37:41The Ravens, the Ravens are probably gonna win.
37:42Chargers are playing the Bengals.
37:43We want the Bengals.
37:44Or the Steelers-Bengals.
37:45Yeah, yeah.
37:46I'm sorry, yeah.
37:48The Steelers will probably win.
37:49The Bengals will probably win.
37:50So this is why you bet on the Chargers.
37:51And the Chargers would then have to play the Texans, which they can win that game.
37:56I like the Raiders.
37:57Oh, God.
37:58I like the Raiders.
37:59Give me the silver and black.
38:00All right, Dan.
38:01Amir Abdul anytime touchdown.
38:02Prop, there you go.
38:03Thanks to DraftKings.
38:04Dan, the Seahawks at the Rams, the Seahawks minus six and a half.
38:09Seahawks.
38:11Jimmy G playing for the Rams.
38:13Jimmy G.
38:14Jimmy G. Rams are, I mean, they're, they're, they packed in.
38:18They're ready to go.
38:19Yeah.
38:20Cancun.
38:21It's playoffs.
38:22No, no, no.
38:23The Rams are in the playoffs.
38:24They're ready to, they're ready to get healthy.
38:25Yeah, yeah.
38:26Yes.
38:27Yeah, give me the Seahawks as well.
38:28Okay.
38:29Yeah.
38:30Shelby Bay City sitting, everybody.
38:31And again.
38:32Yeah, they don't have nothing.
38:33Jimmy G.
38:34They're locked into their spot.
38:35Yeah, yeah.
38:36There's nothing to do.
38:37Just nothing.
38:38Which is great.
38:39That's such a good feeling.
38:40How does Jimmy G feel about this, though?
38:41Opportunity to prove yourself.
38:42Yep.
38:43Okay.
38:44Everyone's got their own storyline.
38:45Okay.
38:46Taylor, the 49ers at the Cardinals, Cardinals minus four.
38:47Do we care?
38:48Josh Dobbs.
38:49Revenge game.
38:50Do we care?
38:51Can you do a Josh Dobbs revenge game if he's played for 18?
38:52No.
38:53Yes, you can.
38:54Yeah?
38:55Yeah, you can.
38:56Give me the 49ers.
38:57Okay.
38:58Cardinals.
38:59Cardinals, okay.
39:00Wills with Cardinals.
39:01Cardinals.
39:02Cardinals.
39:03I don't fucking know.
39:0449ers, on a high note.
39:05Yeah.
39:06George Kittle.
39:07Yep.
39:08Play for those boys.
39:09McCaffrey.
39:10George Kittle.
39:11OIP to our boy who's not playing.
39:12Just want to say, George Kittle.
39:13In the hospital.
39:14Fighting for his life.
39:15He's the fourth tight end all time to have four or more thousand yard receiving seasons.
39:21Wow.
39:22What's that?
39:23Put a fucking gold jacket on that guy.
39:24You have to.
39:25How many has Travis Kelce had?
39:26Seven.
39:27Seven.
39:28Seven for Travis Kelce, four for Gronk, four for Witten, four for Kittle.
39:31I'm pretty sure Travis Kelce had seven, the record seven?
39:34Yeah, he's got it.
39:36Because he was just short a few yards last year.
39:38Yeah.
39:39I know, but there was like, I thought there was something going on with the eight.
39:41I thought there was a record there.
39:42No.
39:43Obviously, I'm wrong.
39:44Yeah.
39:45I don't think he survives.
39:46Fred Warner.
39:47Okay, Dan.
39:48You've been setting it up.
39:49You said you've got quite a hot take.
39:50Yep.
39:51All right.
39:52So here's the hot take.
39:53I think the Patriots win.
39:54I think the Titans win.
39:55I think the Ravens win, and then the Cleveland Browns will be on the clock with the number
39:58one pick.
39:59What?
40:00You don't like it?
40:01No.
40:02I love it.
40:03Cleveland Browns.
40:04I love it.
40:05They've somehow found a way.
40:06They're on the clock.
40:07Number one pick.
40:08And I-
40:09Shadour?
40:10No chance, Dion.
40:11Let's him go to Cleveland.
40:12No chance.
40:13No.
40:15Who do they take, then?
40:16I don't fucking know.
40:17I don't know.
40:18You can't take Cam Ward at number one.
40:19No.
40:20I don't think so.
40:21What's the dislike for Cam Ward?
40:23I don't get it.
40:24No.
40:25I don't get it either, but-
40:26He's so good.
40:27Yeah.
40:28He is so good.
40:29Yeah.
40:30Didn't like how he sat out the second half.
40:31I don't give a fuck.
40:32Why does that piss you off?
40:33Why do you care?
40:34Why do you care?
40:35Why do you care?
40:36Because-
40:37For the Pop-Tarts Bowl?
40:38And I haven't said nothing-
40:39I don't give a fuck about-
40:40I haven't said nothing, but Taylor knows this is three versus one right now.
40:41Who fucking cares?
40:42The reason why I care is because if you play sports and you happen to fall into the grid
40:48iron and play that sport, even for one year, it is the ultimate team sport.
40:54You have 11 guys playing for each other, and yes, that bowl game doesn't fucking matter.
40:59None of the bowl games matter except for the playoffs.
41:01I get that.
41:02But if you go back to the root of why you play the game and what you learn what the
41:06game is all about, it's about playing for those around you, something that's bigger
41:09than yourself.
41:10So when you go and play the half, to get a record that shouldn't count because it's not
41:14the regular season, you should finish out the game with the Pop-Tarts.
41:17I have a question.
41:18Or don't play.
41:19Don't play and say, hey, I'm not going to play this game because I'm going to finish
41:22it.
41:23But then again-
41:24But then-
41:25Wait, hold on.
41:26Okay, so-
41:27Hang on.
41:28Yeah.
41:29Why does it matter?
41:30If he's going to leave at halftime and play a half, why would you be like, just tell us
41:32you're not going to play?
41:33Just tell us you're not going to play.
41:34I'm sure everybody in the facility knew this.
41:36Everyone knew.
41:37If everyone knew-
41:38I said this on Boston.
41:39If everyone knew, great, fine, that's dandy.
41:42Whatever.
41:43But if you went to halftime-
41:44No!
41:45No, everyone knew!
41:46Everyone knew.
41:47Also, let me ask you a question.
41:48Would you, as an offensive lineman, if you were blocking for Cam Ward, which one would
41:50you choose?
41:51Winning the Pop-Tarts Bowl or blocking for a record-breaking quarterback?
41:56I would block the same no matter what.
41:58But I'm saying, don't you think breaking that record-
42:01I have a question.
42:02Yeah.
42:03Say the AIC Championship happens when you guys lost to the Chiefs.
42:07You tear your ACL.
42:08They were up.
42:09They were two quarters away from the Super Bowl.
42:10Two quarters away from the Super Bowl.
42:11I'm glad you remember that.
42:12Yep.
42:13But let's just say, by the time you got back, it was week 17 and 18 of the season.
42:18The Titans are out of the playoffs, but you're able to get out there for your first time
42:22back.
42:23Are you going to play?
42:24Are you saving yourself for the next year?
42:25Because nothing is on the line.
42:27There's no benefit.
42:28There's no upside of you going out there to play.
42:29Completely different.
42:30Why?
42:31He's got millions of dollars on the line.
42:32Yeah, exactly.
42:33He's a potential top of the game.
42:34Because he was getting the record.
42:35You saw him break the record.
42:36The record doesn't count.
42:37It does count.
42:38But he counts it.
42:39It literally counts.
42:40He gets the record in the first...
42:41It's regular season.
42:42But it's...
42:43No.
42:44They changed it.
42:45So bowl games count.
42:46Ash and Jenny was trying to get the record against Penn State.
42:47That's bullshit too.
42:48All right.
42:49Last question for you.
42:50You, you, you...
42:51That's bullshit.
42:52I'll tell you.
42:53You guys are all bullshit.
42:54Last question for you.
42:55You hate...
42:56He didn't play.
42:57I assume you dislike Malik Nabors.
42:58No.
42:59I like Malik Nabors.
43:00Oh, OK.
43:01Because he literally did the exact same thing last year.
43:03He played until he got a record, and then he sat.
43:06Yeah.
43:07I don't like Cam Warner.
43:08I said I don't like what he did.
43:09OK.
43:10You don't like Malik Nabors?
43:11Where is that same energy?
43:12I honestly didn't even realize.
43:13Exactly.
43:14It was an echo chamber on social media.
43:15Exactly.
43:16Everybody wanted to be like, oh, he quit.
43:17It was like, no, they knew he was going to quit.
43:18They knew he was going to...
43:19How did I know?
43:20How did I know?
43:21How did I know and bet Iowa State?
43:22Huh?
43:23How did I know Cam Warner was going to sit and I bet Iowa State?
43:24I don't know, Dan.
43:25Get your crystal ball and tell me why.
43:26I'm just saying.
43:27How did I...
43:28Why does Dan know everything?
43:29Because everyone fucking knew.
43:30Everyone knew.
43:31Everyone knew what the plan was.
43:32If I knew...
43:33No one sent me an email.
43:34I checked my AOL account.
43:35I didn't see shit.
43:36But if I knew, Miami knew.
43:37If I knew, Miami knew.
43:38And it's fine.
43:39It was good.
43:40All right.
43:41And Malik Nabors did the same thing.
43:42Which is crazy.
43:43You shouldn't do that.
43:44Don't fucking plan.
43:45But you're saying that if...
43:46Don't fucking plan.
43:47We're going to play for all 11 guys.
43:48If he sits out the whole game, he's doing the same thing.
43:49He said he's quitting.
43:50No, it's different.
43:51It's not different.
43:52I'd rather have the record.
43:53I'd rather have the record.
43:54I'd rather have the record.
43:55I'd rather have the record.
43:56I'd rather have the record.
43:58I'd rather have the record.
43:59I'd rather have the record.
44:00I'd rather have the record.
44:01I'd rather have the record.
44:02I'd rather have the record.
44:03I'd rather have the record.
44:04I'd rather have the record.
44:05It's getting broken next year, bro.
44:06By Bryce Underwood.
44:07Do you want to bet?
44:08Is that...
44:09That's his hot take?
44:10I know.
44:11Is that your hot take?
44:12Yeah, yeah.
44:13My hot take.
44:14Michigan wins the next five national championships.
44:15That's my hot take.
44:16Enjoy the NFL show.
44:17Will, do you have a hot take?
44:18No.
44:19OK.
44:20Perfect.
44:21I'm in.
44:22Cheese.
44:23Perfect.
44:24Cheese.
44:25Don't win the Super Bowl.
44:26This is what I want to happen.
44:27I want the Bengals to get in the playoffs.
44:28Yeah.
44:29Yeah, no, I want that, too.
44:30I want all those Dominos to fall for them to get in the playoffs.
44:31Yeah, I want that, too.
44:32Which feels like a hot take.
44:33Okay, so the Survivor Pool Picks, we are in Week 18.
44:36Will, you are up two points on Dan and Jerry.
44:40One point.
44:41One point.
44:42Sorry, two points.
44:43Dan and Jerry both have one point.
44:44Good job, Will.
44:45Yeah, good job, Will.
44:47So we are going to reset in the playoff.
44:48Mm-hmm.
44:49So everybody has to take one a day.
44:50Jerry is not here, but he is taking Denver today.
44:52Mm.
44:53So...
44:54Mm.
44:55I'm taking Baltimore.
44:57Okay.
44:58And Dan?
44:59I don't have Baltimore.
45:00Fuck.
45:01Yeah.
45:02Dan, you can't take the Seahawks, the Ravens, the Bengals, the 49ers, the Bears, the Falcons.
45:05I will take the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
45:07You can't take the Bucs.
45:08Okay.
45:09Tom, constructive criticism, it could be easier if we know the teams we can pick.
45:14Mm.
45:15Constructive criticism, Tom.
45:16Constructive criticism, Tom.
45:17Yes.
45:18So...
45:19Sometimes you play all these gymnastics, you're like, man, I've picked like 10 teams
45:20out here.
45:21I noticed you guys also took out the fourth chair guy.
45:22You can't do it now?
45:23Did you guys do that last year?
45:24Yeah.
45:25I don't know.
45:26I don't know.
45:27I don't know what happened.
45:28The fourth chair guy was here throughout the season.
45:29I don't know when it got dropped.
45:30Okay.
45:31Oh.
45:32It's all right.
45:33What would your pick be?
45:34Oh.
45:35I don't get to play.
45:36Tom just said they kicked him out when it came to a three-way tie.
45:37Ah.
45:38So like last week or whatever.
45:39Ah.
45:40Okay.
45:41So I don't get to play.
45:42Because the guest chair just hasn't won a point.
45:43Yeah.
45:44Like it just hasn't...
45:45Well.
45:46I'll figure out what we'll do for the playoffs.
45:47We maybe do a pool or something.
45:48I...
45:49We can do something fun.
45:50And Jerry's...
45:51And Jerry has asked multiple times like what the bonus bet is from DraftKings.
45:52So you probably should figure that out.
45:53Okay.
45:54We'll figure it out, Jerry.
45:55Where's Jerry?
45:56He's doing his hole-in-one.
45:57Oh.
45:58That's right.
45:59So far, right?
46:00Yeah.
46:01He's doing it again?
46:02He's doing it again tonight in Florida.
46:03Jerry texted me over the break.
46:04He was just like, I should have been...
46:05I should have opened a pizzeria.
46:06Then Dave would have given me money.
46:07Hey.
46:08What a cool video.
46:09Yeah.
46:10It was great.
46:11It was really cool.
46:12The snow and all that.
46:13Awesome.
46:14Yeah.
46:15Okay.
46:16Anything else, fellas?
46:17No.
46:18Happy New Year.
46:19Happy New Year.
46:20Happy 2025.
46:21No.
46:22No.
46:23Read one book.
46:24Which would be more, but only one.
46:25Not a children's book.
46:26Not a children's book.
46:27One book.
46:28I'm not going to fucking go crazy.
46:29One book.
46:30I've got to figure out what book it's going to be.
46:31Read the Four Agreements.
46:33Read Sapien.
46:34What's that?
46:35It's like...
46:36Read American Fiction.
46:37Oh, you do the weird fucking books.
46:38I haven't read Sapien.
46:39Where you try to get yourself like pumped up.
46:40Yeah.
46:41Oh, yeah.
46:42Self-help books?
46:43There's nothing wrong with that.
46:44No.
46:45I'm a big non-fiction guy, but the Sapien, I haven't read that one, but it's massive.
46:46You need to read something to be like, oh, I got to fucking try harder at my job.
46:51You're a loser.
46:52Yeah.
46:53It's got to be crazy to go look for something else to make yourself better.
46:55Come on.
46:56Just...
46:57So what kind of book are you going to read?
46:58Like a fiction book?
46:59I don't know.
47:00Maybe history.
47:01I don't fucking know.
47:02Dan's just a cool guy bully.
47:03No, I'm not.
47:04I'm just saying those things don't do anything.
47:05No, no.
47:06That's not what I'm saying.
47:07That's not what I'm saying.
47:08I just find those books are so silly because it's like you have to do it yourself.
47:17It sounds like you fell off the wagon.
47:18You're scared to pick up a book that might get you back on the wagon.
47:20All right.
47:21So give me a self-help book.
47:22Compound.
47:23Compound effect.
47:24I have the things he does that are like...
47:26Atomic Habits.
47:27Atomic Habits.
47:28That is what I've cracked open.
47:29I'm not going to change anything.
47:31You should read...
47:32I am who I am.
47:33Hey, you should read Good Energy by Casey Neistat.
47:34Come on.
47:35All right.
47:36Atomic Habits?
47:37Yeah.
47:38Atomic Habits.
47:39It's a great...
47:40You're going to be like, oh, you got to fucking wake up at four in the morning.
47:41Just be texting.
47:42No, but is that what Atomic Habits is?
47:43No, no, no.
47:44It's like...
47:45Wake up at four in the morning.
47:46Climb Mount Everest.
47:47Building good new habits.
47:48Drink like Crocodile Cum, and then you'll be the strongest man ever?
47:51No.
47:52Those are Taylor books.
47:53Yeah.
47:54Okay.
47:55All right.
47:56All right.
47:57All right.
47:58Atomic Habits.
47:59I'm going to read Atomic Habits.
48:00No, you're not.
48:01No, he's not.
48:02Yeah, it's just one book.
48:03It's one book.
48:04I'll see you at...
48:05Who wrote Atomic Habits?
48:06Some dude who like has like a thousand sniper kills.
48:08You know I'm not good with these.
48:09What?
48:10You know I'm not good with these.
48:11Who I can't relate to?
48:13It's like a guy who's like a hundred times more of a man than me telling me, and I'm
48:17just going to be like, all right, dude, I'll probably just sit on my couch and have a blizzard.
48:21It would be very...
48:22Like, well, I don't know what...
48:23It would be very funny to have like a recap of Atomic Habits from Dan amidst our group
48:28text, where there's also farts.
48:29Yeah.
48:30That's like what...
48:31All right.
48:32Atomic Habits it is.
48:33Okay.
48:34All right.
48:35We'll see you guys for the playoffs.
48:36Can you give me the book?
48:37Yeah.
48:38Sign it.
48:39I want to sign it.
48:40Write something motivational.
48:41Atomic Habits.
48:42Okay.
48:43I have the quote, too.
48:44Great.
48:45Stay in it.
48:46Yeah, yeah, yeah.
48:47All right.
48:48We'll be back for the playoffs.