Mintzy Did It Again! - Barstool Rundown - December 14th, 2023
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01:20 >> First topic.
01:21 I've been waiting on this all day.
01:24 It's very confusing, it's a bunch of pointing fingers.
01:26 He did this, they did this.
01:28 It might be the lamest drama in the NBA, but I think it's sparking something that's
01:32 gonna be great for the next ten years for the Bucks and Pacers.
01:36 Bucks and Pacers ball drama.
01:38 The Bucks beat the Pacers in Milwaukee last night, 140 to 126.
01:43 Giannis dropped 64 points, 32 attempts from the free throw line.
01:47 It was nuts.
01:49 Credit to him.
01:49 But then after the game, there was a clip going around where
01:53 a guy goes and gets the game ball.
01:56 Immediately right after the whistle's blown from the ref,
01:58 a guy in a green quarter zip, Bucks quarter zip, takes the game ball.
02:02 Bucks have the game ball.
02:03 What happens after that, no one really knows.
02:05 There's a reserve ball that the Pacers took for their rookie, Oscar Chibwe.
02:11 It was his first game, technically.
02:13 He scored a point, Pacers took it to give him the game ball.
02:17 Giannis thought that the Pacers took the actual game ball back to the locker room.
02:23 He goes nuts.
02:25 He's on the court telling Tyrese Halliburton, go get that fucking ball.
02:29 Go back there and get it.
02:30 It's our ball.
02:30 I want it.
02:31 Then you can see there's a video of Giannis sprinting from the court back to
02:38 the tunnel, a security guard's grabbing on his jersey,
02:40 trying to keep him from doing it.
02:42 >> Maybe he's trying to channel his inner Draymond Green now that he's
02:47 been suspended indefinitely.
02:50 >> It was a wild move.
02:52 You can say, hey, that's our game ball, we want it.
02:56 That would have been the normal thing to do.
02:57 I'm sure if an equipment guy could have gone back and
02:58 we could have gotten it sorted out.
03:00 But Giannis just kind of took it into his own hands, goes sprinting back there.
03:03 There's a kerfuffle in the tunnel.
03:05 People are yelling at each other.
03:06 Pacers are like, keep the ball, that's our ball.
03:09 Which is technically the reserve ball, not the game ball.
03:12 It's hard to decipher really what happened, but I think it boils down to this.
03:17 It didn't matter about the ball at all.
03:19 It wasn't about the ball.
03:20 >> Right. >> Going into this,
03:22 the Bucks were 0-2 against the Pacers.
03:24 After the end season tournament, the Bucks had a closed door meeting.
03:28 They called out their head coach.
03:29 They're like, we can't lose to the Pacers.
03:30 We're getting dogged, we're getting embarrassed.
03:31 We're an Eastern Conference finalist team.
03:34 We shouldn't be losing to the Pacers.
03:36 So going into this game, the Bucks were in war mode.
03:39 They should not have lost to the Pacers.
03:41 They couldn't lose.
03:42 There's a clip where Halliburton scores a layup.
03:47 It's a dead ball.
03:48 And Giannis just throws an elbow right into his chest.
03:51 >> Okay. >> For no reason really.
03:53 And I watch the Pacers, obviously I'm a Pacers fan.
03:56 The Pacers played Detroit a couple nights ago.
03:59 And Beef Stew, their center,
04:01 the guy who tried to get in a fight with LeBron at one point.
04:04 There's a video of him just running through the court and
04:06 everyone tried to hold him back.
04:07 Beef Stew just shoves Halliburton in the back to the ground.
04:10 And I think it's, Halliburton's kind of the media darling right now.
04:14 Everyone's putting him on a pedestal.
04:15 And I think players are just a little jealous.
04:17 And they're just like, yeah, you haven't earned shit.
04:19 You're 23 years old.
04:20 You're not a superstar yet.
04:21 Like, you gotta earn it.
04:22 So I think going into this game, the Bucks were definitely on high alert.
04:28 And other teams are kind of pissed at Halliburton.
04:30 But the ball thing, it was just kind of a point and fingers.
04:33 He said, she said.
04:34 Very lame.
04:34 It was very childish.
04:36 Very kid on the plate.
04:37 >> I mean, Giannis is acting like a petulant child here.
04:39 I mean, he scores 64 points, good for him.
04:44 But you know what?
04:45 This guy here, he may never score another point.
04:48 That's his, could be his only NBA point.
04:51 And if he wants a ball, he should get a ball.
04:53 I mean.
04:53 >> So you think, it was Giannis' home court, he set the franchise record.
04:58 He's a veteran, he's been around for a while.
04:59 He won a national, or a national championship.
05:01 He won a championship.
05:03 You don't think he has, has the right to the ball?
05:05 You think it's the rookie deserves it?
05:08 >> The rookie, I think, he may never get another ball.
05:11 Giannis, heck, he'll score 65 one day.
05:13 He's won championships.
05:15 He's won MVPs.
05:15 He's won a lot of stuff.
05:17 >> Yet. >> I mean, for him to want a ball for
05:19 64 points, that's not even like a record.
05:22 It's, it's, it's, it's nothing.
05:27 It's 64 points.
05:28 He could do that again.
05:29 >> Yeah, and then they were saying at the press conference, Giannis was like, well,
05:34 I don't know if it was, if he wanted both the game ball and the reserve ball.
05:37 Because Dame also went into fifth place for a three point score.
05:41 So he's like, well, he deserves the ball for that record.
05:43 That's more important than scoring one point.
05:45 So. >> I've never seen this before.
05:48 >> Yeah. >> I've never seen it.
05:48 >> You know, what it is, is, is NBA superstars showing that they think that
05:52 they're hot shit and they don't give a fuck about anyone else.
05:56 The little guy that comes in the league is, is probably a G leaguer.
05:59 May never, this guy's a 12th man on the bench.
06:02 He's got, gets an opportunity to get in the game, gets a point.
06:05 It, I mean, that's the memory that lasts forever.
06:07 This guy, and the, I mean, what was his name again?
06:10 I don't even remember.
06:11 You told me his name.
06:11 I don't remember. >> Oscar Sheway.
06:12 >> Oscar Sheway.
06:13 Oscar Sheway never, that's gonna be, may be his career.
06:16 That might be the only point of his career.
06:19 And he wants the ball to commemorate that he actually did something in the NBA?
06:22 No, that's a shame that he did not.
06:25 >> John, didn't you say you tweeted out something anti Giannis and
06:29 the Giannis Stan simps all came to his defense.
06:32 This seems like a very open and shut case.
06:35 >> So. >> Giannis was a little bit of
06:36 a baby about it.
06:37 I didn't know that balls, I guess I knew balls were given out in the NBA.
06:41 I kind of think about it more in baseball, right?
06:44 Where they kind of throw a game balls.
06:45 And I think, I've seen people take.
06:47 >> NFL locker room.
06:47 >> NFL footballs, yeah.
06:48 >> Pocky, everyone did the pocky.
06:50 You get the pocky if you score your first career goal.
06:53 >> Well.
06:53 >> So I don't know, it seems like an open and
06:56 shut case that Giannis seems like a baby here.
06:58 But what are people doing when they're defending him?
07:00 >> I just think, I think most people seem to think that Giannis
07:04 deserves the basketball.
07:05 His home court, he scored all the points, which I might even kind of agree with.
07:09 My only point was I just thought he looked like an asshole.
07:11 >> Yeah, no.
07:12 >> Like that was the, I just thought he looked like a dick.
07:14 You know, instead of just like storming around trying to fight everybody.
07:17 It's like, dude, just chill out.
07:19 >> Yeah, there's an argument he should have it.
07:20 >> That's what I think about the ball.
07:21 >> And there's an argument that maybe Dame should get it for number five.
07:24 There's an argument that Shibley should get it because of his first point.
07:28 I mean, there's all arguments for it, but
07:29 I think the way that he seemed, like he used the word petulant.
07:32 I'll use it again.
07:33 I mean, just, I think it's a bad look for Giannis.
07:36 Who I don't think has, I mean, in general, not a lot of good looks, right?
07:40 >> Well, that's the thing.
07:40 He's kind of like, he's in a small market.
07:43 He decided to stay in a small market.
07:44 He won a championship there, so he's kind of a sweetheart.
07:46 But then, like, last year when the Bucks, number one seed,
07:50 got knocked out of the tournament by the number eight seed Heat.
07:53 He went up to the podium and they're like, is this an unsuccessful season?
07:57 And he was like, stop right there.
07:58 Let me tell you what success is.
07:59 >> I remember that.
08:00 >> And everyone's like, yeah, what a great guy.
08:02 Like, it isn't about just winning a championship.
08:04 If LeBron James did that, the Internet would have exploded.
08:07 Jordan doesn't act like that.
08:09 How dare this guy?
08:10 But it's because it's Giannis in a small market.
08:12 And he's kind of a darling.
08:14 But, yeah, I think if he just would have not blown up and overreacted,
08:19 people would have been like, oh, yeah, he does deserve a game ball.
08:21 But the thing is, it's the Internet.
08:23 You have an instant reaction.
08:24 There's a video going around of a guy.
08:26 And it was kind of a dark video, so it was kind of hard to see the color on
08:29 the jersey.
08:29 I'll give him that.
08:31 But the guy in a quarter zip comes out and takes it.
08:32 And the caption, meek Phil, was Pacers coach steals the game ball.
08:39 And it was a Bucks guy in a quarter zip.
08:40 So misinformation on the Internet going around immediately made the Pacers
08:44 guilty.
08:45 So then there's an argument for Giannis, but there's no argument for meek Phil.
08:49 I think meek Phil's a bad fucking guy at the end of the day.
08:52 Even meek Phil, greeny.
08:54 They're at the top of my shit list today.
08:57 They just immediately reported the story, even though there was-- yeah,
09:02 if they just would have waited for that video of-- with a little color in there,
09:06 it's obvious that it's a green Bucks quarter zip.
09:10 Anything else?
09:13 As a Pacers fan, I think I'm being pretty fair about this.
09:16 It was deeper than a ball.
09:19 It started back in the in-season tournament when the Pacers beat them 0-2
09:23 and they're like, all right, we can't let this young team--
09:27 To me, it's silly.
09:28 It's silly, silly.
09:29 I mean, maybe they should switch up the ball a bit more in the game.
09:33 I'm sure when there is a milestone.
09:35 I mean, they take out the football of every game.
09:38 It's easy for hockey and baseball, but basketball,
09:42 I don't understand why you do only one ball.
09:45 I mean, they probably should switch it every time out.
09:48 Yeah, they got a rack of-- they got racks of balls out there.
09:50 They only got two that they're using.
09:52 So to wrap this up, as a guy who never overreacts to any sporting thing,
09:56 Frank, who's at fault here?
09:59 Giannis?
10:01 Yeah, I think Giannis is a little-- I mean,
10:03 he could have tried to have done this through back channels and quietly done
10:07 it, and it would have been better.
10:09 Then I'm in agreement with you.
10:11 I mean, if they get another ball from the game,
10:14 I can't imagine-- they only use one ball for an entire game?
10:18 It doesn't seem--
10:18 Yeah, they got one ball, and then they have a reserve ball, which
10:20 is allegedly what the Pacers took.
10:22 And the Pacers have done this before.
10:24 It's not like they were like, all right, it's a box.
10:25 We got to take this ball from Giannis.
10:26 He wants it.
10:27 Pacers, when someone scores their first points in a game,
10:29 they'll take the ball and give it to them as a nice little--
10:31 Yeah, that sounds like something that should be done.
10:34 But also in his press conference, Giannis was like,
10:36 I also didn't get my game six finals ball either.
10:39 So it was kind of like he was pulling out all the stops, being like,
10:42 I deserve it.
10:42 It was very, very petty.
10:44 Well, you got a ring.
10:45 You got a trophy.
10:46 That's-- maybe you got the net.
10:49 Didn't you get the net?
10:50 Didn't they cut the net down?
10:52 Perhaps, yeah.
10:53 Die a hero, live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
10:56 I think Giannis is kind of doing that character arc.
10:58 As much as you wanted to put this story on because you're such a Pacers fan,
11:02 Frank and I are chomping at the bit for this next one.
11:04 This next one--
11:05 We talk about something else.
11:06 You give me the first one.
11:07 This one's for you guys.
11:08 Southwest Airlines new customers of size policy.
11:12 The airline is going to have a new policy where larger passengers can
11:16 get two seats for the price of one to make the flight more comfortable.
11:20 This is a bizarre story.
11:22 I'm shocked.
11:23 Frank and I are bigger guys.
11:25 And Frank and I actually travel together more than most couples.
11:30 We do rough and rowdy.
11:32 We do-- we're the macho men of rough and rowdy.
11:34 I don't know if you knew about that because we do the weigh in all the way
11:37 through the bikini contest.
11:39 So while everybody else is spoiled on PJs, private jets,
11:42 Frank and I fly commercially to basically the asshole of the United
11:46 States every time.
11:47 We tend to do that.
11:48 And smaller planes and stuff.
11:51 And Frank usually flies first class.
11:54 And it's not a huge first class ticket.
11:56 It's usually to Pittsburgh or some fun--
11:57 Yeah, yeah.
11:58 But--
12:00 He's earned it.
12:00 Frank, I'll ask you right now.
12:01 You're stuck in coach seats.
12:03 It's fucking terrible.
12:04 I flew coach.
12:06 And when I flew coach, United basically told me,
12:10 no, I have to get a second seat.
12:12 You have to pay for it.
12:13 Yes.
12:13 Correct.
12:14 So now what Southwest is doing is you can go up there and do one of two things.
12:18 You can take a chance that the flight is not overbooked,
12:22 go there and say, hey, listen, I'm a bigger dude.
12:24 I need some extra room.
12:26 And then they'll make an accommodation if there's room,
12:28 ask somebody to move, which is a wild thing to think about.
12:31 Somebody came over to me and said, hey, can you fucking move?
12:34 Because somebody else needs to have two seats.
12:36 I tell them, go fuck themselves.
12:37 Yeah.
12:37 You know what I mean?
12:38 I bet they're just like, oh, hey, your seat got moved.
12:40 They're not telling you the reason.
12:41 You know what I mean?
12:42 Or you can buy the two seats just to ensure that A and B--
12:46 and then they'll reimburse you for the second seat
12:48 because it's being used for only one person.
12:51 Right.
12:52 And even though Frank and I are similar weights, I'm much taller.
12:58 Will they do it also for guys who are six and above?
13:03 You know what the problem is?
13:05 The problem is they try to squeeze more and more seats on these planes.
13:08 They make the seats smaller and smaller.
13:11 I mean, look at planes 30 years ago.
13:15 They weren't this small.
13:16 I mean, first class, you have the two-seater.
13:19 So that's what I need.
13:21 And I'm able to sit there comfortably.
13:24 But they made these coach seats more and more and more and more cramped.
13:28 They cramp them in more and more.
13:29 And so now you don't have that room.
13:32 You don't have that room.
13:33 And I mean, basically, you have to be the size of Chris Clumber,
13:37 the guy that's actually sitting in coach.
13:40 Nothing's more fucking demoralizing to me
13:42 than when I show up to the same airport as Frank
13:44 to get on the same flight for the same place.
13:47 And I see a middle seat right outside the men's room, like 32D.
13:51 And I walk through, and Frank's already got on the fucking eye
13:53 mask and the free champagne.
13:55 Right?
13:56 He's in like 2A.
13:57 You're like the 2A spot all the time.
13:59 Oh, it fucking kills me.
14:00 That's personal, though.
14:01 On the surface, this looks great.
14:03 But is it going to be--
14:04 is everyone going to have to pay for this with the hidden fees
14:08 and the tickets going up, ticket prices going up?
14:11 Because it sounds like they're being awesome.
14:13 And they're like, hey.
14:14 No, no, no, no.
14:15 The airlines will make their money.
14:16 And by the way, I don't think Southwest Airlines actually
14:19 has first class seats.
14:20 That's true.
14:21 Yes.
14:22 I don't believe they-- isn't that the one where you have to--
14:23 Pick your own seat.
14:24 --pick your own seat.
14:25 And you can pay up to be in zone one to be the first ones in to pick it.
14:28 That's Southwest, right?
14:29 Yeah, it might be.
14:30 Yeah, I think so.
14:30 Yeah.
14:31 So it's an awful airline to be in with.
14:33 It's going to cost a lot of animosity, too.
14:35 Because I've looked up Southwest Airlines.
14:37 And I've-- I think it's three seats from top to back.
14:42 Yeah.
14:43 But I think people who are-- this creates more problems than it solves.
14:47 Because there are people who are just--
14:49 you know, had too much ham the night before.
14:51 Or they're just bloated.
14:51 You know?
14:52 Yeah.
14:52 As opposed to being full blown obese.
14:55 Or I think they call them super fat.
14:57 Super fat is the term that Southwest uses for people
15:00 that have to encroach on other things.
15:03 Which is me.
15:04 Like, so just because--
15:05 I don't fit in because I'm 6' 6".
15:07 So I have to go man spread--
15:09 Yeah.
15:09 --the whole time.
15:10 So the person next to me gets intimate with my knees.
15:14 And I would love if there was some sort of thing where maybe perhaps above 6' 5",
15:18 I even get a free seat.
15:19 Because I might check both boxes.
15:21 I mean, you know, I've seen airline designs now where they're going to have,
15:25 like, you're going to have, like, double deck seats.
15:28 Saw that.
15:29 Yeah, yeah.
15:29 Where you're almost standing up, almost leaning the whole time.
15:32 I mean, I mean, and then they charge--
15:36 didn't they come along with the beverage service
15:37 and say that you want some soda?
15:39 And they give you, like, half a can, which is kind of, like, insulting.
15:42 Yeah.
15:42 I mean, these airlines are crooks.
15:46 But what about them--
15:47 Frank a whole can.
15:47 --what about them awarding people for being unhealthy?
15:51 Like, I know you're on a health kick now.
15:52 It's just talking to Janks.
15:53 And he said that you're down 20 some odd pounds.
15:56 You're doing the walking thing.
15:57 So you're on the right road.
15:58 Yeah.
15:59 I mean, you know--
16:00 And you know, at one time, I actually did top 500 pounds.
16:02 And now I'm down to about 350.
16:06 So--
16:07 And yeah, so I mean, so even though the 20 pounds seems
16:10 like throwing a deck chair off the Titanic, it is a move in the right direction.
16:13 Yeah.
16:13 Yeah.
16:14 So, like, that's what he's trying to do.
16:16 But now it's almost like one of the reasons maybe I
16:19 want to be a little bit more in shape is so I can fly a little comfortably.
16:23 Yeah.
16:23 That's no joke, because we fly a lot for NASCAR and all this stuff.
16:26 Now I don't have to.
16:27 You know what I'm saying?
16:28 You're warding people from being fucking obese.
16:30 You're warding them--
16:31 You know what would be a fun flight?
16:33 Go.
16:34 A flight down to NASCAR.
16:35 And coach, you on the aisle, me in the window,
16:39 because I love the window seat.
16:40 And middle seat, spider.
16:42 Spider, yeah, right?
16:43 Because I've-- when Duggs fought in Rough and Rowdy,
16:49 we had gone down all in the same plane together.
16:51 Yeah.
16:51 And I was row 20.
16:53 But you look up, and like, Duggsy is one of the biggest guys.
16:56 He's a big man.
16:57 He's bigger than both Frank and I.
16:58 Yeah.
16:59 He's a mountain.
17:00 And there's no way anyone could sit next to Duggs.
17:02 Right.
17:03 It's just there is no way without him encroaching on it,
17:06 particularly if it was me.
17:07 Like, you know, it's like just another guy of size.
17:10 So I don't know.
17:11 It's something that needs to be done, but this is all weird.
17:13 You said, are they rewarding people for bad behavior?
17:15 But even as like a skinny person, I'm like, oh, good.
17:18 I don't want to have to sit next to-- like,
17:19 I don't want to have someone spilling into my seat.
17:20 You know what I mean?
17:21 It helps me as well.
17:22 So I--
17:23 Yeah.
17:23 But I have been on so many flights lately.
17:25 We've been doing a lot of traveling.
17:27 Everything's overbooked.
17:28 Like, I don't see how they can just carve out a super fat seat.
17:32 Yeah.
17:32 It sounds almost, you know, like, I need a super fat seat.
17:35 That's embarrassing.
17:36 We got a super fat coming back.
17:38 Like, yes.
17:39 No one wants it.
17:39 OK, yeah, me.
17:40 [LAUGHTER]
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18:30 All right, last night I didn't have heat in my apartment.
18:33 Really?
18:34 Heat or hot water.
18:35 So I was literally just up fuming about the Pacers' bucks,
18:38 because I knew I was on the rundown,
18:39 and I was like, I can't wait to talk about this.
18:42 And then we got Nick Slandering the good name of the Pacers.
18:47 You know, it's a good thing that a certain colleague of ours
18:52 isn't in the military.
18:53 Let me tell you, I was talking to the people yesterday,
18:56 and we got some great military planes coming up.
19:00 And we got some--
19:01 we're going to provide a surprise attack.
19:04 I mean, let me tell you.
19:06 You just--
19:07 That's some mincey.
19:07 Yeah, that was good.
19:08 Yeah.
19:08 I heard him doing it.
19:09 I was walking in the corner.
19:10 I was like, is mincey in the office?
19:11 Right.
19:11 Yeah.
19:12 That poor bastard, huh?
19:14 You want to talk about that?
19:15 Yeah, we'll talk about that in the after show.
19:16 We'll do that?
19:17 We'll talk about surviving barstool?
19:18 Yeah.
19:19 We'll talk about it after.
19:20 Oh, you want to talk about it now?
19:21 Fuck it.
19:22 Talk about it.
19:22 Surviving barstool last night had its finale,
19:25 and it was fucking explosive.
19:26 Yep.
19:26 Will Compton wins surviving barstool.
19:28 Congratulations to Will.
19:30 He needs the money, I guess.
19:31 Yeah.
19:31 Yeah.
19:32 Yeah.
19:32 Speaking of real athletes.
19:33 I was cheering for either Che or Jerry.
19:36 I mean, someone who actually could use that big guy
19:41 cash payday.
19:42 Yeah.
19:42 Will's so fucking likable, though.
19:44 Yeah.
19:45 He's a likable guy.
19:46 Golden Retriever-esque.
19:47 Him and Fights are both kind of Golden Retriever-esque.
19:49 I've never been a fan of Fights.
19:51 Yeah.
19:51 He's a lot.
19:52 What did you think, though?
19:53 You know, I thought Fights was going to win,
19:55 but then it basically got spoiled.
19:59 Exactly.
20:00 People who don't know, Mincy got on some Breakfast
20:03 with Mincy type thing.
20:04 Gave away the--
20:05 Yeah, Wake Up Mincy, he gave away the final three.
20:07 He did not know that they had not aired the eighth episode.
20:11 Right.
20:11 Seventh episode.
20:12 Down to the final three people, I believe.
20:15 In fact, it is.
20:15 I don't know.
20:16 It's Jerry, Stephen Shay, and Will Compton.
20:20 Yeah, Dave--
20:21 When he does his apology video, he
20:23 looks like he got hit by a bus.
20:25 Yeah, the hair is--
20:26 It's crazy.
20:28 You know, he's actually doing well.
20:31 He's had 12 different Mincy episodes,
20:34 and only two of them have created headaches.
20:38 And then they're giving it to him.
20:39 Dave took him in his side office to address him about it.
20:42 Viva TV, check out the episodes on the blog.
20:44 You can watch that.
20:45 But the best part about Dave just like laying into him.
20:47 He's just yelling at him, putting a dunce cap on him,
20:50 making him sit against the wall.
20:51 And then there's just a moment of silence.
20:53 And Mincy's just like, you know, I think Green Bay
20:55 is a good bet this weekend.
20:56 I think Green Bay is a good bet this Sunday.
21:01 That's all I got.
21:02 Where are you going?
21:03 Oh, I'm sitting here all day.
21:03 I was wearing the dunce thing.
21:05 No, no, you're sitting against the wall.
21:07 OK.
21:07 Turn it the other way.
21:08 Face the wall?
21:09 You face the wall.
21:10 When I go record things, you'll just come sit against the wall.
21:14 Wherever I am, you're sitting against and looking at the wall.
21:17 OK.
21:18 [MUSIC PLAYING]
21:27 [INAUDIBLE]
21:30 [MUSIC PLAYING]
21:34 And then like Big Cat says something.
21:48 You only had so many episodes, and two of them
21:51 have caused national news.
21:53 It's like 10%.
21:54 He's like, it's more like 17.
21:55 Yeah.
21:56 He's a poker player.
21:57 Yeah, he's a poker player, rain man.
21:59 I can't believe you've done 12, Mincy's,
22:01 and had two international incidents in 12.
22:05 It's an insane rate.
22:07 You're hitting at almost 10%.
22:11 I'm higher than 10.
22:12 I think that's like 17.
22:13 Well, yeah, you're right.
22:14 You're right.
22:15 Sorry, I'm bad at math.
22:16 You're right.
22:16 He's got a sharp mind.
22:17 He got that right away.
22:19 Poker mind.
22:19 Yeah.
22:20 [INAUDIBLE]
22:20 He's a fucking savant.
22:22 I got good-- I mean, I'm good at math.
22:24 I'm bad at awareness.
22:25 You're higher, Dustin Hoffman.
22:27 No, I'm great at math and like rain man stuff.
22:29 Yeah, you're rain man.
22:30 But then I can't put anything together.
22:32 And I love-- I mean, kiss him on the mouth type love of Mincy,
22:34 but holy shit, to not have that fucking delay button.
22:38 Someone brought it up.
22:38 Yeah, is it Mincy's fault that it happened?
22:42 Yeah, but really, it's the dump-- there's no dump button.
22:45 How do we not have a dump button after he made one mistake?
22:47 Only once.
22:48 A huge mistake.
22:49 Yeah, yeah.
22:49 You know, made fucking national headlines.
22:53 Debatably tanked the penstock.
22:55 Exactly.
22:56 Right when Mincy got into penstock.
23:00 But for a guy who is not part of one of what people are calling
23:03 the best thing Barstool has done since Barstool Breakfast,
23:07 that's what people are saying.
23:08 One of the best produced shows that Barstool has
23:10 done ever in its history, Mincy's now front and center
23:13 on the story with it, even though he
23:14 wasn't one of the competitors.
23:15 Which is extraordinary.
23:16 So maybe Mincy's playing chess.
23:18 There was no after show after each episode,
23:19 because Dave didn't trust people to not spoil it.
23:22 And he was hesitant on radio.
23:24 So we weren't really allowed to talk about it too much.
23:26 And then Mincy was just like, you know what?
23:28 I've got to give the people what they want.
23:29 I'm going to wake up Mincy.
23:30 I've got to talk about the final three.
23:32 Can we talk about Che getting undressed by Minahan?
23:36 That was tough to fucking watch.
23:38 Are we allowed to talk about that?
23:39 Yeah, oh, does this go on YouTube?
23:41 OK.
23:42 Yeah, we're-- yeah.
23:43 I just think, you know, as a dad,
23:46 like, you know, when somebody says that,
23:48 I think Kirk maybe knew enough that Steven
23:52 was one of the few guys that wouldn't
23:54 get up and defend his child.
23:56 And that's because Steve is built different.
23:58 I don't think it's really a dig on him.
24:00 He's just a guy who everything rolls off his back to.
24:02 But he was sitting in between two guys who I think
24:05 also might have daughters.
24:06 I know that Will Compton does.
24:09 Ru.
24:10 And I think Jerry's got a kid.
24:12 Yeah.
24:12 Like, imagine he was to say, you know,
24:15 either one of those guys' kids were a cunt.
24:18 I mean, like, Will would have met him in the A-Gap.
24:21 And I think Jerry would have fucking, you know,
24:23 tried to take his head off.
24:24 When they did that live in the office,
24:26 I was kind of looking around at, like,
24:27 the behind-the-scenes production people that don't work here,
24:30 that are like the freelancers.
24:31 Their faces, their jaws were dropping.
24:34 They were like, what is going on right now?
24:35 Like, what is this show?
24:37 It was pretty wild to see that in real time
24:40 and be in the room.
24:41 Fucking nuts.
24:42 Yeah, so that definitely would have gotten taken off YouTube.
24:46 They were like, well, this isn't so bad.
24:47 What's going on?
24:48 And it's like, no, it was the final counsel.
24:51 Even if you're not a tough guy, like, say me.
24:54 I'm not a tough guy at all.
24:55 I think you have to do something to protect--
24:59 like, I don't know how Chet went home that night
25:01 and said those words.
25:02 Or do you say, it's just a game?
25:05 Or do you do that?
25:05 I don't know.
25:06 I don't know if people--
25:07 like, I think perhaps if you turn the tables
25:09 and somebody was talking to Kirk like that,
25:12 I think Minion would have got up and punched the guy.
25:14 So I think he knew the risks.
25:16 He's smart enough, obviously, to know the risks.
25:17 But he played it against Steven almost perfectly.
25:21 Talk about playing chess.
25:22 Like, the guy was able to get all that off his chest
25:24 with little to no fucking back-packing.
25:26 It's my impersonation that Che played the game in such a way
25:29 that he created a lot of enemies.
25:30 Oh, was he a real scumbag?
25:32 Oh, because he lied.
25:32 Yeah, he lied.
25:33 He lied.
25:34 And Rico and Kirk are very upset with it.
25:38 But it's like, he's in the game.
25:39 He's playing.
25:40 And that's the thing is, they're not strangers.
25:43 They're co-workers.
25:44 And they have to still coexist.
25:45 And they're friends.
25:47 So I mean, for people who haven't watched it,
25:51 I think it's probably worth the price of admission alone.
25:54 Well, yeah.
25:55 So you can--
25:55 Pay-Per-View, I think you can still get it on Pay-Per-View
25:57 if you want it right now.
25:58 But it comes out next Monday.
26:01 Is that it?
26:01 Check it out there.
26:02 Yeah, and they're released the same way, like one a day.
26:04 One a day.
26:05 Starting Monday, Tuesday.
26:06 Yeah, so if you want to cut the line, get a FastPass,
26:08 you can buy it.
26:09 Worth the $10.
26:11 But for free, understand if you need that.
26:15 So that want to be positive for us, not having it on YouTube
26:18 and going to the Pay-Per-View thing?
26:20 Because they're going to employ Mideen.
26:22 I don't know what the numbers are and what the money went.
26:25 But I feel like the exposure on YouTube,
26:28 just getting in random people's algorithms
26:29 and being like, oh, what's this reality show?
26:31 I've never heard of Barstool.
26:32 I think that would have been great.
26:34 But I don't think--
26:37 I don't know.
26:38 We still have a lot of Pay-Per-View.
26:39 We still have a lot of Pay-Per-View to make money.
26:40 But it's like, is it a short-term gain?
26:42 I think most people think that the million dollars you
26:45 made on Pay-Per-View doesn't make up for the exposure you
26:48 would have had on YouTube.
26:49 I think that's a general consensus.
26:50 If it lives on YouTube, it's just--
26:52 Yeah, it's there forever.
26:53 It's there forever.
26:54 But don't you guys agree that it's not
26:56 as compelling of a show without Menehane's blow-ups?
27:01 Yeah.
27:02 I mean, that's one of the great things.
27:04 That's what makes Barstool.
27:05 Barstool is--
27:05 Like, where do we--
27:06 Yeah.
27:07 I mean, I hear that Sunday Night Stream did numbers.
27:12 Yeah.
27:13 I mean, yeah.
27:14 You're not tuning in to CBS Survivor,
27:16 and they're like, I'm going to blow up your house
27:18 and dig up your dead dad.
27:19 You know, that happens.
27:20 That'd be the craziest episode of Survivor of all time.
27:22 It's fucking crazy.
27:23 So, yeah.
27:24 Well, great job by those guys.
27:25 I don't know if I'd have the--
27:26 I don't think they'd ever ask us.
27:27 Well, yeah.
27:28 Do you remember the first season of Survivor?
27:30 With Richard Hatch?
27:31 Yeah, but who was it?
27:33 Susan?
27:34 The Susan.
27:34 Susan, yeah.
27:35 I remember, yeah.
27:36 If you're dying and need a bottle of water,
27:38 I won't give you any.
27:40 Didn't Richard Hatch lie to her in some way,
27:43 or was it someone else lied to her?
27:45 There was some sort of deceit.
27:46 Because Richard-- they were like, oh, this guy
27:48 played the game perfectly, but he
27:50 was kind of a scumbag in a backstabbing way.
27:53 How did they follow up with that?
27:55 Like, having that A-team-ish type--
27:58 like, I don't know who else--
27:59 maybe you could replace some of the B-level performers there.
28:04 Not like B-level talent by any stretch.
28:06 But who do you bring in?
28:08 You can't take all those guys.
28:09 I don't know how many competitors
28:10 there were in total.
28:11 You can't take all those 15, 12, and then
28:14 put in another 12 people from here
28:15 and expect it to be as good.
28:17 Oh, right.
28:17 Yeah, you got-- but I don't know.
28:19 There's still a lot of A-list people,
28:20 like the Chicklets guys.
28:22 There's still A-list people that weren't a part of the show.
28:26 I think a Frankie, a Trent, you got people like that.
28:29 That would be great as well.
28:30 Definitely, but I think there were some kind of glue-ish--
28:33 like, having Kirk Darren just going fucking crazy,
28:36 I think is necessary.
28:39 I don't think anyone brings that energy.
28:40 Right, you get a Kirk, you need a Kirk,
28:42 you need Davey, you need Big Cat.
28:44 You got those guys.
28:44 But you can kind of switch around some of the people.
28:46 How about a new dynamic next year, Rhea, Gia?
28:51 They said to do all women.
28:52 They've been saying--
28:53 teasing an all-women one, I think that would be great.
28:56 I'd do Marina all day long, right?
28:58 Oh, yeah.
28:59 Tell you what, somebody said something about Marina's kid.
29:01 I don't even want to think about that,
29:02 because she's going to jump at me right now.
29:04 You know what I mean?
29:05 So I think that would be interesting.
29:06 I'd be very interested in hosting that, by the way.
29:08 Because I think we're all sick of Jeff Delo, right?
29:10 Can we say that out loud?
29:12 Shout out Kelly Keeks, she did a nice job.
29:14 I think Kelly Keeks and Jeff Delo both did a great job.
29:18 I think Jeff Delo handled the show pretty well,
29:21 because you're going to get the blame and hate for everything
29:24 that goes on in the show, just because you're the host.
29:26 You're the face of the show, pretty much.
29:28 And I thought he did well.
29:30 Do you want to tell people why we're mad at Jeff Delo?
29:33 Oh, so tonight is the office Christmas party.
29:36 Correct.
29:37 And who has a trivia match scheduled for 9 AM tomorrow?
29:42 9 AM tomorrow, yeah.
29:43 GinXYZ.
29:44 We've got to be up and early, up and at them for trivia tomorrow.
29:48 And he's West Coast.
29:49 I think he's in Chicago.
29:50 Oh, he's in Chicago?
29:51 Yeah.
29:53 No Christmas party, they're doing lunch.
29:56 Would you rather have a Christmas party or lunch for a month?
29:58 Every day.
29:59 I'd like to probably do Christmas party.
30:02 I'm not a huge Christmas-- that's not true.
30:05 It's definitely a Christmas party.
30:07 I'm thinking about it.
30:08 It would definitely be a Christmas party.
30:09 I think I'm lunch for a month.
30:11 You're a lunch guy?
30:11 Yeah.
30:12 Lunch for a month guy?
30:14 We got lunch for a month.
30:16 Yeah, what would you rather?
30:17 Are you going to the Christmas party?
30:19 I'm going to the Christmas party, yes.
30:20 Yeah, I think it's kind of a different thing.
30:22 The two guys complaining about the Southwest seats
30:24 will pick the Christmas party.
30:26 The two most fed guys.
30:27 I'm starving.
30:28 But yeah, we're pissed at Jeff Delo right now.
30:32 Furious.
30:33 So now there's another potential reality show brewing
30:36 with Chris Clemmer, which I think is probably
30:38 going to be shock the world.
30:40 Rat Race.
30:40 Yeah, so that's going to be coming up.
30:42 We're going to be filming that pretty soon.
30:43 I'm really looking forward to that.
30:44 See what Clemmer can do with it.
30:46 And I don't know if Minhayn's going to be on it,
30:49 but I'd imagine he would have some choice words for Chris
30:51 as well.
30:52 Yeah.
30:53 And then, yeah.
30:53 And then it does in 9 o'clock in the morning tomorrow.
30:55 It's fucking crazy.
30:57 Yeah, yeah.
31:00 NFL.
31:01 Let's go.
31:02 To the NFL, Frank.
31:04 So there's the touchback rule, where
31:06 if the ball gets fumbled through the end zone,
31:08 it's a touchback, goes to the 20-yard line,
31:09 it's the other team's ball.
31:11 They're thinking about changing that after this year?
31:14 No, I don't think they should change it.
31:15 I think that's--
31:15 Why not?
31:16 That's a good rule.
31:17 I mean, you have the ball.
31:18 If you don't score-- if you fuck up at the end zone
31:20 and it goes out the back of the end zone, too fucking bad, GI.
31:23 I mean, that's been the rule forever.
31:27 We don't need to change this rule.
31:29 I mean--
31:30 You think it's being too easy on people that fumble the ball.
31:32 Yes.
31:33 Hold onto the ball.
31:34 Ball security is job security.
31:35 Hold onto the ball, yes.
31:36 But if you fumble anywhere else on the field,
31:38 you get the ball back.
31:39 It is-- yeah, you get the ball back.
31:41 Yeah, but what are you going to--
31:42 You've got to place a premium on fumbling in the end zone.
31:44 Yeah, well, that's what you call defense.
31:47 We'll reward the defense for making a big play.
31:50 It is such a gut punch to a team when
31:52 they're on the one-yard line, they
31:53 fumble it through the end zone, and the other team
31:55 gets the ball back at the 20.
31:57 You don't like that?
31:58 Or you like that?
31:59 I like the rule.
32:00 I think the rule is fair.
32:02 Is there a middle ground, then, for people who don't like it?
32:04 And maybe you don't get the ball on the 20,
32:07 like you push it back a little bit further,
32:09 you know what I mean, just to--
32:10 The other team keeps it.
32:11 You keep the ball.
32:13 It doesn't go over to the other team.
32:14 But maybe you can go back.
32:15 I don't think it's the same with the offense.
32:17 I like the other team getting the ball on the one, maybe.
32:21 Yeah, yeah.
32:22 Goes right--
32:22 Back them up.
32:23 Yeah.
32:24 I don't hate that.
32:25 Yeah.
32:26 Oh, yeah, going all the way out to the one.
32:27 I mean, I have the other team have it in their own end zone.
32:30 The offense gets the ball, but yeah, it's in their own end zone.
32:32 Right, right.
32:32 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
32:33 Is there a way to sort of do that?
32:34 Just giving it to them at the 20.
32:36 Like I said, it's such a gut punch.
32:37 It's such a shift in momentum that it's like, holy shit,
32:40 what a weird rule.
32:41 On the one, it's fucking diabolical, though.
32:43 I mean, you know what I mean?
32:44 But it does, it makes it--
32:45 How about the five?
32:45 Put it on the five.
32:47 What about the 2 and 1/2?
32:49 Something.
32:50 OK.
32:52 You know, I almost didn't make it into work today.
32:55 And why was that, Frank?
32:56 New Jersey Transit?
32:57 I was at Secaucus Station, and none of the trains
33:00 are coming through.
33:01 And I don't know why it's coming through.
33:03 And the Morris to Exe--
33:06 the Morris to train comes through.
33:08 The Morris County train comes through.
33:10 But it's like all the trains are supposed to be like 12, 45--
33:13 12, 25.
33:15 I mean, 10, 25, 10, 40 train, they're not coming.
33:17 And then I'm seeing trains that are parking over.
33:21 They're supposed to be heading down towards Newark.
33:24 And Jersey Shorter is just sitting there.
33:27 And I get in, and I find out that a bull got on the loose
33:32 and was walking up and down the tracks at Penn Station in Newark.
33:35 Yeah, the video of this is wild.
33:37 There's just a full-grown bull with horns going down the tracks.
33:41 Well, you know what it is?
33:42 He was looking for Red Bull Arena.
33:45 What a brilliant fucking marketing play for Red Bull Arena.
33:49 Just let a bull loose.
33:50 Which is right there.
33:51 But look how close people on the platform are.
33:53 And they don't realize--
33:55 is it a 1,000-pound bull?
33:56 Did they say?
33:57 Right.
33:57 And then they see it.
33:59 I don't know how high a bull can jump.
34:01 But I'm pretty sure it can get out of that if it really wanted to.
34:04 I would think.
34:05 And there are a couple of slaughterhouses down that part of Newark.
34:09 Yeah, it has to come from there.
34:11 Has to come from there.
34:11 Down in the Ironbound section, there's a couple of slaughterhouses.
34:15 In my hometown, there's a butcher shop that has had live bulls escape.
34:19 And it's right next to an elementary school.
34:21 So they've had to shut down the elementary school,
34:23 go on lockdown, because there's a bull roaming the fucking playground.
34:26 I was going to say, in case we can't get the rights to this video,
34:29 if you just search "bull New York" or "bull New Jersey,"
34:32 I feel bad when I can't put a video.
34:33 Right, yeah.
34:34 If you can't find the video, if we can't play the video, it's worth searching.
34:37 We'll definitely have the video in the description.
34:39 Yeah, it's worth searching.
34:40 I mean, it's a wild--
34:41 It's absolutely wild.
34:43 I mean, it's almost like the old Chicago Bulls entry, the Bulls,
34:48 like going down the streets of Chicago and then going into the arena.
34:53 That's a great video.
34:54 Did they play that on The Last Dance?
34:56 Because I feel like I've seen that pretty recently.
34:58 The animation is so 1990s on that.
35:00 It's great.
35:01 I mean, you know, New Jersey Transit, you always get bullshit.
35:07 And well, today we got some real new bullshit.
35:11 Did you get a notification on your phone that said "bull loose" on the tracks?
35:14 Or does New Jersey Transit just--
35:15 It said "police activity, trains delayed."
35:20 All right.
35:21 How is that station otherwise?
35:23 Newark Penn Station?
35:24 Yeah.
35:24 Oh, it's the most revolting place on the planet.
35:28 I mean, it's--
35:29 You feel bad for the bull.
35:30 Yeah, I mean, the smells that come from Newark Penn Station.
35:34 I mean, this Penn Station in Newark makes the New York Penn Station
35:38 look like the Taj Mahal.
35:39 Oh, really?
35:40 It makes it look like the Taj Mahal.
35:42 I mean, the elevators don't work.
35:44 The escalators don't work.
35:46 And there's the smell of feces and urine everywhere you go.
35:54 I mean, if you're ever on an elevator at Newark Penn Station,
35:58 the urine is soaked so much into the metal that there's
36:01 nothing they could do to get rid of it.
36:04 I didn't even know metal was porous enough.
36:07 It ran to absorb the--
36:08 And then they do--
36:10 What they try to do is they try to put the cleaning fluid in there,
36:13 and it's got this potpourri of cleaning fluid and urine that just--
36:20 the perfunctory smells.
36:22 And they removed all the benches because they don't want the homeless there,
36:25 but the homeless are still there anyway.
36:27 And it is-- a bulldozer should probably hit that place.
36:34 Meanwhile, New Jersey Transit's building themselves a half-billion-dollar new
36:38 luxury high-rise for their executives, yet the people
36:42 get this absolute shit dump of a fucking station
36:47 where they don't have proper working escalators and elevators.
36:50 And--
36:51 And fucking bulls.
36:52 And bulls going through it now.
36:53 And it is terrible.
36:55 It is terrible how horrible Newark Penn Station is,
36:58 and yet they're building a $500 million high-rise for their executives.
37:05 That's why New Jersey Transit is the absolute fucking worst.
37:08 The rich get richer, and they just look down and laugh at us.
37:11 Look at these losers in this urine-soaked hellhole that we created.
37:19 We already talked about surviving Barstool.
37:21 Last thing I'll say, Christmas party is tonight.
37:23 Who do you think gets inappropriate?
37:25 Someone always does.
37:28 I'm asking you first, Frank.
37:29 Who do you think gets inappropriate tonight?
37:31 Gets a little bit too ahead of themselves with the booze.
37:33 I'm not sure.
37:34 I think everyone's going to be pretty good tonight.
37:36 You think so?
37:36 I think-- yeah.
37:37 Even when we think that, there's always one person that gets too drunk,
37:41 throws up on--
37:43 Erica.
37:44 That happened--
37:45 It was the Call Her Daddy girl--
37:47 the first year I was there.
37:48 Sophia.
37:48 Sophia with an F.
37:49 Yeah.
37:49 Fucking hell.
37:50 Oh, Jesus.
37:51 Yeah, I remember.
37:53 That's the Barstool Christmas party, baby.
37:55 Anything can happen.
37:56 That Christmas party, I remember you were dressed up as Santa,
37:58 and pulled up in your car, opened the trunk, 40 ounces everywhere.
38:02 40s everywhere.
38:02 Are either of you going to dress up as Santa?
38:06 Not this year.
38:06 Not this year?
38:07 No.
38:08 Maybe get a visit from Coach Duggs?
38:11 Also, perfect Santa guy.
38:12 Perfect Santa guy.
38:13 Yep.
38:13 Got a lot of people that can play Santa.
38:15 Yeah.
38:15 Look forward to it, though.
38:16 I think it should be good.
38:17 I don't know who's going to get ahead of themselves.
38:19 We have so many people in Chicago today.
38:20 Just bad timing.
38:21 Yeah, people are flying back from the--
38:23 Will they be flying back from the party?
38:24 Yeah, some people are still going to make it.
38:25 Because--
38:26 Oh, good.
38:26 Yeah, they have to.
38:26 They had an after party last night, right?
38:29 Yeah, absolutely.
38:30 Yes.
38:30 Back to back party.
38:31 That's Barstool, baby.
38:32 Does Chicago have their party tonight?
38:34 I know Dante had offered to do it in his bar.
38:36 Oh, yeah, I don't know if--
38:37 because I know they did the lunch for a month.
38:38 I don't know if they are doing a--
38:40 Yeah, Dante said he would do it because he
38:41 works a couple places.
38:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:43 So shout out Dante coming in and saving the day.
38:45 Yeah, I'm not sure.
38:46 I think there's a different date, though.
38:47 But yeah, I don't know.
38:49 I'm interested to see who tonight will--
38:51 I'm saying Jax.
38:53 Jax just gets a little fucking--
38:54 right?
38:55 He'll let himself.
38:56 Yeah, first Barstool party.
38:57 I mean--
38:58 He decides to go for the gold.
38:59 Yeah, yeah.
39:00 Fingers crossed.
39:01 All right, anything else?
39:02 We good?
39:03 That's it.
39:04 That's it.
39:04 That's the rundown.
39:05 Good day.
39:06 (whooshing)