The Screen Babble team take you through their festive viewing as well as a review of the new series of Waterloo Road and a look back to the iconic Cheers.
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01:01 This week, Stephen tells us about the very new series
01:04 of Waterloo Road just landed.
01:06 Finally, we go back to the future
01:07 to tell you about a program you may have missed
01:09 when it first aired or streamed.
01:11 And this week it was definitely aired
01:14 because it was pre-streaming.
01:18 It is in fact, Cheers,
01:19 the original spawner of spin-offs, I think.
01:23 But first, we like to talk about
01:25 what everyone has been watching recently,
01:27 and it's been a bumper season for it, hasn't it?
01:29 Stephen, we'll start with you.
01:31 How was your Christmas/New Year/holiday viewing?
01:36 Tell us what was worth watching.
01:37 - It was great.
01:38 I didn't watch a lot of new stuff.
01:41 Normally when sort of Christmas rolls around,
01:43 I like to watch a few like classic Christmas movies
01:47 I've not seen before.
01:48 - Embrace the sort of, embrace the remote control
01:52 and like just, you know, stick on the TV guy
01:55 and you're like, oh, or just the flicker
01:57 and be like, what's on?
01:58 And you just land on something.
01:59 You don't really plan your viewing as much, do you?
02:02 - Well, this time around,
02:05 I saw the original Miracle on 34th Street.
02:09 - 34th Street.
02:11 - Yeah, there's Miracle on 34th Street.
02:14 - Yeah. - Yeah.
02:16 'Cause that's where Mercy's is, I think.
02:18 - That's the other movie.
02:22 - But yeah, that was really good.
02:24 They put like Santa on trial
02:27 because he has to prove that he's Santa Claus.
02:30 - Real, yep.
02:31 - And the girl, young girl believes in him.
02:33 And he sort of, it felt like a brand deal with Mercy's,
02:38 but it wasn't.
02:39 It was just like a film that happened to be
02:42 based around the store.
02:43 But that was really nice and quite heartfelt, et cetera.
02:46 And then I wanted something a bit different.
02:48 So I watched Violent Night.
02:50 - Oh yes.
02:51 - And I can't remember the guy's name, but he just-
02:55 - Oh, David Harbour.
02:57 - Thank you.
02:58 I was gonna say Dan Harbour. - There you go.
03:00 - David Harbour beats the ever living (beep)
03:04 out of a load of mercenaries
03:06 who come to rob a rich family over the Christmas period.
03:11 He's the real Santa.
03:13 He's the real deal.
03:14 Like he would pass the court case in Miracle on 34th Street.
03:17 - Okay. - He'd probably kill the judge.
03:19 - Okay.
03:21 - He's got a bag of tricks.
03:21 - So violent Santa, right, okay.
03:23 - Really fun, really gratuitous violence, fairly mindless.
03:26 Perfect genre film, I guess.
03:30 - Cool.
03:31 Anything else, Stephen?
03:32 You were gonna say something else there.
03:33 - I started watching Ghosts following,
03:36 I spoke about Yonderline. - Oh yeah, it finished,
03:38 didn't it? - The end of the week.
03:40 - Yeah. - Yes.
03:40 I didn't watch the Christmas special finale
03:44 because I've not seen any of Ghosts.
03:45 So we started watching, me and my partner
03:47 started watching season one.
03:48 - Yeah. - Off the back of
03:49 really enjoying Yonderland.
03:51 - Yes. - We think it's not quite,
03:54 we really loved Yonderland.
03:57 - Yeah. - And we both
03:58 really love Ghosts, but we probably think
04:00 at the end of the week Yonderland.
04:01 - I think Ghosts is a slow burn though.
04:02 I think it's a slow burn. - Yeah.
04:02 - I think it was on for quite a while
04:03 before it got that sort of cult following.
04:05 - Yeah.
04:06 We're enjoying it and we're excited to sort of
04:09 get further into it. - Get into it.
04:11 - And there's a lot of episodes to enjoy, which is good.
04:14 - It's funny because I've seen so many like,
04:17 like memes and like little interviews and stuff online.
04:21 Like it was such a dramatic thing,
04:25 this finishing up Ghosts,
04:26 'cause it's got such a big following, you know.
04:29 When I don't know if it was ever
04:32 fully mainstream at any point, but yeah,
04:34 I think maybe in the last year or two
04:35 it's been pretty widely talked about, but yeah.
04:39 Oh, that's cool.
04:40 Okay, enjoy that.
04:41 That'll keep you going for a little while.
04:42 It's quite a few series of it, isn't it?
04:43 - Yeah, all of it is on iPlayer as well.
04:46 - Cool, cool, cool.
04:48 Okay, great.
04:49 What about you, Benji?
04:50 What has been keeping your little peepers busy?
04:54 - I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't talk about
04:57 Call the Midwife Christmas Special last year.
04:59 - I caught a little bit of it.
05:01 I didn't see all of it.
05:03 - I enjoyed it.
05:04 That heartwarming storyline regarding Mr. Sharma,
05:09 who was the former Indian soldier
05:12 that was basically let go of the army at the time
05:16 for post-traumatic stress disorder,
05:18 but at that point in time, they called it cowardice.
05:21 So I mean, it was a nice heartwarming
05:24 kind of end to that storyline.
05:26 The first IVF treatment storyline as well,
05:29 which involved the experimental mother, shall we say,
05:34 who got the first set of IVF treatment,
05:37 then also having to deal with the pitfalls
05:41 of the other pregnant woman that she shared a ward with,
05:45 who had a child with a Trinidadian person who's ran out.
05:49 So she had to deal with the racist commentary
05:52 of the mother, of the other person.
05:54 And it was really good, but let's be honest,
05:56 everyone was talking about salt burn over Christmas,
05:58 weren't they?
05:59 And it'd be rude if we didn't talk about
06:02 that movie in particular.
06:05 - From social media, 'cause I haven't seen it,
06:07 the things I know are,
06:09 there's some sort of a really dodgy,
06:11 incest-y type scene, I think, to do with a bath.
06:16 And Sophie Ellis Baxter's murder on the dance floor
06:20 has having a huge revival as a result of it.
06:23 And that Barry Cohen is really, really good in it.
06:26 They're the three things that I know about it.
06:28 - Oh, I mean, Barry Cohen is just absolutely brilliant in it
06:33 but the problem I found with salt burn
06:37 was that I saw the trailers and I immediately thought
06:40 this is gonna be a tale about the lower classes
06:45 and having to deal, being a fish in water.
06:48 Yeah, kind of like what "Parasite" was.
06:51 South Korea did a whole social thing really well.
06:55 When I watched it with my wife,
06:57 and thankfully I was one of those people
06:59 that did not watch it with their family over Christmas.
07:02 - Oh yeah. (laughs)
07:03 - It was anything but.
07:07 I honestly felt like it was
07:08 "Millennial the Talented Mr. Ripley."
07:11 - Okay. - A little catchphrase
07:13 on it or something like that.
07:15 I honestly think it's more of a horror movie
07:18 than it is a comedy.
07:20 And yeah, the- - Interesting.
07:23 - It's polarizing because those shocking moments
07:25 that are doing the rounds on social media,
07:28 there's complaints that the movie was a little bit too long.
07:31 So could those shocking bits being kind of like
07:34 amended a little bit less in order for the runtime
07:37 or I mean, they're artistically shot, do not get me wrong,
07:41 but they're also, yeah.
07:43 - But you know, it's those moments people are talking about,
07:47 isn't it?
07:48 So that's sort of trick for them like.
07:50 - Yeah, and I think the concern there, Kelly,
07:53 is that if people are just talking about
07:56 those bits in particular,
07:58 is Emerald Fennell's new movie good
08:00 or is it just a means of courting controversy
08:05 with just how far they pushed the envelope?
08:07 I mean, there's a school of thought,
08:08 which is you could commend them
08:11 for some of the sexual activities
08:13 that they have presented in a mainstream flick now,
08:17 or you could just say that perhaps just for the sakes
08:20 of courting controversy, they included those scenes.
08:23 I mean, they were wonderfully shot,
08:26 as weird as that may sound,
08:27 but they did go on a little bit.
08:29 So I understand how polarizing that is,
08:31 but I'm a bit of a theater geek.
08:33 So I enjoyed it for its kind of Donmar Warehouse style,
08:38 but yeah, definitely not a family view, definitely not.
08:42 - I have seen criticism of Emerald Fennell saying that,
08:46 you know, people thought she was kind of better than this,
08:48 that she did sink a little bit with some of that stuff.
08:53 So that's interesting.
08:53 Yeah, okay, cool.
08:55 I'm gonna try and see that, so in the next couple of weeks
08:57 to make my own mind up about the controversial bits.
09:02 I was very piecemeal in my viewing
09:04 over the Christmas and New Year period,
09:06 I would say to Stephen before we came on air.
09:08 I watched a lot of like old films,
09:11 "Fiddler on the Roof," "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang,"
09:13 - Oh.
09:15 - "Love Actually."
09:16 - Well, what is "Fiddler on the Roof?"
09:18 'Cause I've been meaning to, I've got that on DVD.
09:21 I've been meaning to watch it for ages.
09:22 - Oh, you should watch it.
09:24 I'd forgotten so much of it, and it's so timely.
09:28 - It's just also so long.
09:30 - It's really long.
09:32 But you know, I'd forgotten how sort of miserable
09:35 it ends up as well, you know,
09:37 but it's the Jewish people being exiled from Ukraine
09:42 at the end, and there's a war sort of happening,
09:46 a civil war, and oh my God, it's very,
09:50 it's not a happy ending.
09:53 Spoiler alert.
09:54 - Might give it a watch this weekend.
09:57 - But it is a fantastic film all the same,
09:59 like, and the performances are great,
10:01 and the music's great, and it's just,
10:04 it's kind of funny watching the American actors
10:06 playing the parts and things like that,
10:08 and the American accents, but it's still great.
10:10 It's brilliant, love it, love the energy.
10:13 And Topal died last year,
10:14 so it was kind of timely to watch it as well.
10:16 But anyway, so yeah, and I watched,
10:19 I actually accidentally watched
10:21 the heist before Christmas, Stephen,
10:23 and I think I enjoyed it more than you did as well.
10:25 - God, it was punks.
10:27 - But I thought it was, but my expectations were really low
10:30 because of what you said.
10:32 So I was like, oh, this might,
10:33 and then I expected it to be really, really sad ending,
10:36 and it wasn't that sad, so I was kind of like, result.
10:39 So that was good, and then, yeah,
10:42 I've just been back to normal only the last couple of days,
10:45 so I'm nearly finished that "Nearly Normal Family,"
10:47 which I seem to have been watching for months,
10:50 which is on Netflix, but I have enjoyed it.
10:52 And "The Met," which is the documentary
10:55 sort of flying the wall about the Metropolitan Police,
10:56 which I've really enjoyed as well.
10:58 It's their kind of, I don't,
11:00 I would like to say it's their charm offensive,
11:02 but it's absolutely not.
11:04 They're trying to get across sort of
11:06 the challenges they face in "The Met,"
11:08 and it doesn't really sugarcoat
11:09 some of the things they deal with.
11:11 Like, there's been episodes where they've been
11:13 openly being criticized by members of the public
11:15 on the side of the street,
11:16 and they could have choosed to edit that out,
11:18 and they kept it in.
11:19 So I think it's interesting and quite a realistic
11:23 representation of what they actually have to deal with.
11:25 And it's obviously been being made over the space of years
11:28 because we kind of see what happens with certain people
11:30 and whether they can get convicted or not.
11:32 So definitely worth watching.
11:34 The soaps, I could bore you with the soaps, but I won't.
11:37 Needless to say, I don't think there was anything
11:39 very particularly exciting.
11:41 Yeah, OK, right.
11:43 Well, that's what we've been watching.
11:45 Come back to us in a few minutes
11:47 when we are going to take on the deep dive
11:50 and back to the future,
11:52 and we'll have talk of what's coming up.
11:54 OK, bye.
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11:58 Time for the deep dive.
12:06 Stephen, this week you're taking on something
12:08 that may not be right up your street,
12:09 but I'd be interested to hear what you think about it anyway.
12:11 Waterloo Road.
12:13 Returning for Series 13, is that right?
12:16 Series 13, yeah.
12:17 It ran originally from 2006 to 2015,
12:22 and then was off air until 2013.
12:25 Two seasons came out in 2013,
12:27 so this is the third series since its revival.
12:30 I used to love it when it was on back in the day
12:34 when I was at school.
12:35 It was like, when it used to run for like 20 episode seasons,
12:39 it was really neat to-
12:40 So it's based in a school, isn't it?
12:41 Yeah.
12:41 School-based drama, and it's kind of like a soap.
12:45 Yeah.
12:46 Obviously it's longer, longer form and weekly episodes now,
12:50 and you get eight episodes a season
12:52 instead of, you know, hundreds of-
12:53 It's kind of comparable probably to like Casualty.
12:55 It's like that kind of-
12:56 I guess, yeah.
12:58 And so I'd been away from Waterloo Road for a few years.
13:03 I don't know if I saw the 2015 season,
13:05 but I definitely haven't seen anything since,
13:08 until Series 13.
13:10 So I sort of was dropped in, but again, like a soap,
13:13 you can start wherever and you pick it up.
13:15 I noticed that Neil Fitzmaurice,
13:19 who plays Jeff in Peep Show,
13:22 is the new comic relief teacher character,
13:24 the unlucky in love, a bit hapless kind of guy.
13:27 He's great comic relief.
13:29 What age is he now?
13:30 Like, he's still playing a supply teacher.
13:33 I don't know.
13:34 He's, well, no, he looks like he's full-time
13:37 history teacher now.
13:38 Oh, ooh.
13:39 He's moving up in the world.
13:42 Yeah.
13:43 Yeah, he's playing more of a Mark Corrigan role now in this.
13:47 But the new season, I mean,
13:49 as every season of Waterloo Road does,
13:52 is tackling the issues that are sort of,
13:55 or at least the producers think are affecting kids
13:58 at schools and teachers at schools these days.
14:00 So you have like-
14:02 Vaping.
14:02 Sorry?
14:04 Vaping.
14:05 Not seen any vaping yet, actually.
14:08 I don't think the BBC's allowed to show vaping, I imagine.
14:11 But we've got bullying, child poverty,
14:13 mobile phones come into it with-
14:16 Bullying and stuff.
14:17 Neil Fitzmaurice's character, Neil Guthrie, the teacher,
14:20 he's sort of catfished by the students
14:23 who are pretending to be a different teacher
14:24 that fancies him.
14:25 Oh, no.
14:26 That's quite funny.
14:27 We have the whole idea of Waterloo Road
14:29 maybe joining an academy trust,
14:31 but do we trust academy trusts?
14:33 We don't know if we do.
14:34 Okay.
14:35 And parts of it are like really hyper-realistic, I feel.
14:38 It genuinely really pulled me in.
14:40 Like, I'm gonna finish the season.
14:42 Really?
14:43 I've seen the first half,
14:44 so I've watched the first four episodes.
14:47 And I have to finish it now.
14:49 I really remembered what I liked about it.
14:52 It's-
14:53 You're committed to it.
14:54 Just great, great, petty drama.
14:57 And there's some of the kids in it are such shits.
15:00 (laughing)
15:01 And you just have to watch it-
15:02 You're like, "You want them to get their comeuppance."
15:04 Yeah.
15:05 You're just hoping someone's gonna deck them.
15:07 And to be fair,
15:09 some of them are starting to get their comeuppance.
15:12 I hate to break this to you, Stephen,
15:14 but that's why we watch The Soaps.
15:16 It's the exact same thing.
15:17 Yeah, I know.
15:17 I know.
15:18 The thing is, I feel it's slightly higher brow.
15:21 You know, it's an hour-long production.
15:22 (laughing)
15:24 That's so funny because things like,
15:26 I'm thinking of like Doctors, you know,
15:28 and I've watched that on occasions,
15:30 which is, I think, comparable to Bartley Road as well.
15:32 Maybe not quite.
15:33 Maybe this is the gateway drug to Doctors and their business.
15:38 But Doctors, I always thought was terrible, terrible.
15:41 Like, I always thought that The Soaps
15:42 were much more meaty than Doctors, you know?
15:45 I don't think Doctors ever won a soap of the year,
15:47 did it at the Soap Awards.
15:49 And that is showing, oh, tell us.
15:53 I will.
15:55 Is it weekly, sorry?
15:57 It's airing on BBC One weekly at 8 p.m. every Tuesday,
16:02 but all eight episodes are on BBC iPlayer now.
16:05 So when this goes out,
16:07 the first episode will be available,
16:09 will have aired,
16:11 but all episodes will be on iPlayer.
16:13 Fab, cool.
16:14 Okay, thank you for that.
16:15 Right, over to you, Benji.
16:17 You're gonna talk to us about Cheers, which, oh my God,
16:21 Cheers to me is like the original sitcom.
16:24 Like the, it's the thing, it's the probably,
16:28 that and probably maybe Only Fools and Horses,
16:30 it's, are the first comedies that I remember
16:33 from my childhood, you know?
16:34 So it's absolutely iconic.
16:36 Yeah, I mean, there is a ubiquity regarding Cheers,
16:40 you know, growing up in New Zealand,
16:42 Cheers was primetime television.
16:45 Moving back over here to do university,
16:47 before Frasier and Everybody Loves Raymond
16:50 became the kind of television series
16:53 du jour Channel 4 would play around 9, 9.30
16:56 when everyone's taking their kids to school.
16:59 Yeah, it's huge.
17:01 You pre-faced the podcast by saying that
17:05 it could be considered the forerunner
17:07 to the idea of spinoff shows.
17:09 And naturally we're talking about how
17:11 after Cheers finished that they went and did Frasier,
17:14 which became an immediate success of itself.
17:17 And more recently got a reboot for Paramount Plus.
17:20 I absolutely love Cheers because I think Cheers
17:25 is 100% feel good television viewing.
17:28 Even at its most somber moments, it feels like,
17:31 much like 80 sitcoms at the time,
17:33 especially with James L. Brooks' involvement.
17:36 It was almost a semblance of a morality play
17:39 with each episode.
17:41 Will Sam Malone do the right thing
17:43 and not take two women out on a date at the same time?
17:46 Will people be a bit more respectful towards Cliff there,
17:50 that postman played brilliantly by John Ratzenberger,
17:53 who just seemed to have an answer for everything.
17:56 He was the American equivalent of the guy
17:59 when you're trying to play the quiz machines at the pub,
18:02 walking up and going, "Oh, I know the answer to that, mate.
18:05 "Yeah, you want to do that answer.
18:06 "Yeah, no, that's the answer for that one."
18:09 But I think the most important thing for me
18:10 regarding the importance of Cheers
18:12 is that I could be wrong here.
18:15 I mean, I'm 40 years of age
18:17 and I've consumed a lot of television in my lifetime,
18:19 but if I recall, it was one of the first times
18:23 that it wasn't just a sitcom
18:25 which had four or five key characters,
18:27 till death do us part.
18:29 So it wasn't like a small sitcom like Three's Company
18:32 or till death do us part,
18:34 which just concentrate on some core characters.
18:36 It seemed ever expanding.
18:38 You had the core cast of Sam Malone played by Ted Danson.
18:41 You had Shelley Long that played the accountant.
18:44 Then you had Kelsey Grammer as Frazier.
18:47 You had George Wendt as Norm.
18:49 You had John Ratzenberger as Cliff.
18:52 You had Rhea Perlman as, the name escapes me,
18:56 but she was like one of the highlights,
18:58 the quick-witted, very snappy Italian-American waitress.
19:02 Shelley Long evidently left,
19:05 and then you brought in the late Kirstie Alley
19:07 who took over that position.
19:09 But it felt like instead of it just being,
19:13 we're gonna focus on these three characters
19:15 and that's the main story arc,
19:18 it kind of provided to viewers the idea
19:21 with the A storyline, B storyline,
19:23 which Abed from Community,
19:26 and talking about recent sitcoms,
19:28 perfectly pointed out because it was always
19:31 your story regarding Sam Malone,
19:33 that he's our main protagonist of the piece,
19:37 but there's always time for like
19:38 what Rhea Perlman's character is doing
19:41 or what Norm is involved in.
19:43 Yeah, it's just brilliant.
19:44 I thought it was fantastic.
19:46 I thought it really, really was an ensemble piece
19:49 where everyone really brought their A game to the table.
19:54 It made household names out of a number of people
19:57 who we revere now, including Woody Harrelson playing Woody,
20:01 which was when the original coach
20:03 who managed the bar died.
20:06 And you couldn't have Frasier,
20:08 and I don't think you could have also
20:10 the kind of intertwining storylines that Fras-
20:14 sorry, intertwining storylines that Friends
20:18 and more recent sitcoms had
20:20 without charting everything back to Cheers.
20:22 So unfortunately, it used to be available on all four,
20:26 but because Paramount+ now have the Frasier rights,
20:31 fortunately, you're gonna have to bite the bullet
20:33 and then get a Paramount+ membership to watch it.
20:37 But it is worth it,
20:39 especially if you're a television historian,
20:42 I think it's important to go back and look at
20:44 one of these sitcoms that defines sitcoms
20:46 going into the 1990s.
20:49 - I'm gonna have to give Paramount+ a whirl
20:51 because the embarrassingly, you mentioned Friends,
20:54 the only thing I know Cheers from
20:56 is that Joey watches it when he's in London.
20:59 - Oh my God.
21:00 - Friends episode and falls in love with the theme tune
21:04 and feels very homesick.
21:05 - Oh.
21:06 - And that's my knowledge of Cheers.
21:09 That's all I know.
21:10 - Oh, I think you'd like Cheers, Stephen.
21:12 I actually don't like that many American sitcoms
21:15 from that era, but I actually love Cheers.
21:17 There's just something about it.
21:19 As you say, Benji, it's just kind of easy.
21:22 It's kind of, yeah, you feel good at the end of it.
21:25 And it's not too repetitive.
21:27 Some of those sitcoms are very repetitive
21:29 and I don't think there's,
21:31 and I think it's 'cause of the array of characters,
21:33 as you say.
21:34 And there's also those kind of returning characters
21:36 like Fraser's wife, Lillian,
21:38 and there's these people that come in and out of it as well
21:41 that add to that cast as well.
21:44 So yeah, it was really good.
21:46 Carla was the name of the waitress.
21:48 Who actually, when you were talking about it,
21:51 it reminded me of The Bear.
21:53 Like that sort of same setup of like,
21:56 you know, kind of hard-nosed city people
21:59 running a food or drink business.
22:01 - Yeah, getting involved in hospitality.
22:04 That and Pum Trum.
22:06 I don't know, I like hospitality based.
22:08 I loved Chef, which was Jon Favreau's movie.
22:12 So I don't know, maybe I've got a subconscious appeal
22:16 towards watching people in hospitality services
22:20 as my sitcom viewing, should I say.
22:23 But yeah, Paramount Plus definitely was-
22:26 - Make you feel better about your-
22:27 - Oh yeah, a little bit.
22:28 Interesting, Steve.
22:29 - Make you feel better about your own job.
22:31 - It's not too bad doing this podcast.
22:33 Come on now.
22:34 Stephen, it's interesting you brought up
22:36 the Joey reference as well,
22:37 because I'm pretty sure that the creators of Friends
22:41 decided, oh, well, if it worked for Fraser,
22:43 it would work for Joey.
22:44 And did it work for Joey?
22:45 Not at all.
22:48 - Not so much, no. - Not all spin-offs work.
22:50 - Well, I might have to take it upon myself
22:53 to watch it then, because I've sort of made a crusade
22:56 out of slagging off Paramount Plus.
22:57 And maybe I will eat my words,
23:00 seeing as they do seem to have a lot more content on.
23:03 Fellow Travelers was great,
23:05 and there seems to be more going on to it, so.
23:07 - Yeah, yeah.
23:08 Okay, that's cool.
23:09 I think that's a really great recommendation
23:11 for the start of 2024, a great back to the future.
23:14 And Waterloo Road, who knew?
23:16 Enjoyable.
23:17 (laughs)
23:18 - A very positive start of the year.
23:20 - Very positive.
23:21 Oh yeah, we're all feeling chipper after time off,
23:23 et cetera, so watch that go downhill.
23:24 Joking, I'm sure we'll be fine next week.
23:26 Okay, thank you for joining us this week.
23:28 Do look out for Friday morning's Screen Babble weekend watch,
23:31 which will preview what to watch
23:32 over the weekend and beyond.
23:34 If you have any suggestions for what TV
23:35 we need to get into our lives,
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23:49 Bye everyone. - Bye bye.
23:50 Cheers.
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