Entrepreneur and podcast host Casey Adams shares his remarkable journey, highlighting the transformative power of discipline, gratitude, and seizing opportunities.
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00:00 You launched your podcast when you were 17.
00:02 I started my podcast, the first episode, on a pair of wired Apple headphones.
00:07 You had the privilege of interviewing Larry King.
00:10 I was 19.
00:11 There was a 76-year age gap.
00:14 It was just that moment in particular that completely changed the course and direction
00:17 of my future.
00:20 The doctor comes in and he says, "I have some good news and some bad news.
00:23 The bad news is you've been diagnosed with interspinous ligament damage.
00:28 As of now, you can no longer play football ever again due to the instability of your
00:33 spine."
00:34 Hearing that, as a 15-year-old kid, it doesn't really register.
00:37 He has this quote.
00:38 He says, "I've never learned anything while I was talking."
00:41 The last year and a half, from a business perspective, has been quite the adventure
00:46 that I'm beyond grateful for.
00:48 I felt like my timeline of learning that from start to exit was expedited in a sense.
00:54 Life is very fragile and being grateful is the epitome of how I try to live.
01:20 Welcome to the show, Casey.
01:21 Thanks so much for having me on, Jeff.
01:22 Excited to be here.
01:23 Yes, I'm excited.
01:24 It's fun because I think three years ago, almost to the day, I was a guest on your show
01:28 and now here you are.
01:30 Indeed, you are.
01:31 It's been so cool to just see the journey of you and Everbol.
01:35 Quite frankly, when I walked in the studio today, I was blown away.
01:39 Just come full circle from you being on my show to now being on your show in this incredible
01:43 studio.
01:44 It's really cool.
01:45 Well, that means a lot because I'll say you are someone I have followed very closely just
01:50 as an inspiration for launching this show and watching what you've done in the podcast
01:53 space.
01:54 You started so young, but the guests that you have had on, the conversations you've
01:59 had, and just how you did it as a professional to then obviously MediaKits, which was such
02:03 a cool, revolutionary, and disruptive technology and as an entrepreneur.
02:08 To have you now be a guest on my show, I'm anxious to learn from you while still doing
02:12 this.
02:13 I appreciate it.
02:14 Thank you.
02:15 Of course.
02:16 As I mentioned to you before we went on, the show's premise is all about success formulas
02:20 I think it's formulaic success.
02:22 There's a reason you've been successful at everything you do.
02:25 You have these attributes.
02:26 And for the audience that are trying to learn, how do I get to success?
02:30 What do I need to do?
02:31 My goal and hope is through these conversations, we can uncover a lot of these same success
02:35 formulas, find the common traits and attributes between all of these really successful human
02:39 beings and then give them a roadmap to say, "Hey, this is the things I need to work on."
02:44 Absolutely.
02:45 Before we get into business, I think what I'm most impressed about is that you're on
02:48 day 58.
02:50 58 of 75 Hard.
02:52 That is correct.
02:53 And it's not your first time doing 75 Hard.
02:55 No, first time I did it was in 2020 actually.
02:58 Right when COVID was happening, lockdowns, it was just like I got dialed in and committed
03:03 to 75 Hard and it was the best thing that I could have done during that weird time in
03:07 the world.
03:08 It is not easy.
03:09 I mean, for those who don't know, 75 Hard is a program from Andy Frisella created and
03:14 it sounds like a physical challenge, but it is more a mental challenge than a physical
03:17 one.
03:18 I personally have tried it and have not succeeded.
03:21 So it is something that I need to accomplish.
03:23 And so I'll let you tell what is the rules of 75 Hard.
03:27 Yeah.
03:28 So, I mean, as you said, a lot of people after I share the rules, you'll think, "Oh, that's
03:31 a fitness challenge," but it's the furthest thing from that.
03:34 So 75 Hard, as you said, mental toughness challenge that was created by Andy Frisella.
03:38 And there are key things that you have to do every single day to complete the day and
03:42 I'll read them out.
03:43 So it's one, you have to do two separate workouts for 45 minutes.
03:47 One has to be outside.
03:48 Granted, being in California, we're a little, you don't get the cold weather as much as
03:55 you would hope for in a sense of like making it tough, but two workouts a day, one outside,
04:00 45 minutes, a gallon of water a day, and 10 pages of reading.
04:05 You have to take an accountability picture in the mirror, no alcohol or cheat meals,
04:09 and then stick to a diet.
04:11 And what really prompted me to, I would say, start this time around is I told myself when
04:18 I did it in 2020, like, "Oh, I would love to do that once a year."
04:21 And it's so easy not to do.
04:24 And then thinking about the perfect time to do it, and quite frankly, there's never going
04:28 to be a perfect time, right?
04:29 It's like, "Oh, maybe you're traveling in the summer, or maybe you're holidays."
04:34 Life is never going to be the perfect time to do it.
04:36 And I think that's the beauty of the challenge of just having the discipline and just working
04:40 through whatever challenge arises.
04:43 So looking back on this one, it's crazy because the day you commit, day one through 14 are
04:51 the most daunting thinking you have 50 days, 60 days to go.
04:56 But even getting to, I'm on day 58 now, and I said it over there briefly before we started
05:00 the show, it's truly a daily discipline that you have to focus on the daily, even last
05:07 night, right?
05:08 I did my two workouts, I did my 10 pages in the morning, but it was like 1045, and I still
05:13 probably had a quarter gallon of water to drink, which resulted in me waking up twice
05:17 last night to go to the bathroom.
05:19 And it's just, some days it's easier, some days it's not, but yeah, it's a phenomenal
05:24 challenge.
05:25 And more importantly, it's the discipline that you get from it is, in my opinion, amplified
05:28 in every area of your life.
05:30 And very hard to fall off because the physical part is the easiest part for me.
05:36 I mean, the first time I started, I was like four days in and I didn't take the picture.
05:40 And so I realized, in my head, I was like, "Ah, it's no big deal, I'll keep going."
05:45 And I was like, "You can't, 'cause I'm cheating myself."
05:48 So I was like, "All right, I'll start over."
05:50 So I started over and then a couple of days in, I was so busy and I didn't drink any of
05:54 the water necessary.
05:55 And it was late in the night and I was like, "Oh, I'm starting over."
05:58 And then I quit.
05:59 And I tried again like a year later, and I was doing pretty good.
06:02 I think I got 11 days in, 11 or 12 days in and I was doing it all.
06:07 And then something came up with travel and I realized I didn't do an outside workout.
06:11 And I was like too tired and I quit on myself.
06:14 And you know what?
06:15 I'm successful in a lot of things, but we all have areas where we need inspiration.
06:18 And so you're killing it.
06:20 And I have a lot of friends who have accomplished that.
06:22 And I think it's such a cool...
06:23 It doesn't always have to be that.
06:24 I mean, if that's too much, just picking something and being able to stick to it and making it
06:29 difficult.
06:30 - That's a great point.
06:31 I think we were talking pre-show, going to Coachella or being traveling.
06:34 I travel a lot.
06:35 So to get two workouts in, and if it's raining outside, you still have to go outside and
06:39 work out.
06:40 We're in San Diego, but it's been rainy this winter.
06:43 - It absolutely has.
06:44 - So how many rain workouts have you done?
06:45 - I think I did like seven or like five to seven during those days.
06:50 Right around when I started setting up the party, it was raining probably like twice
06:52 a week.
06:54 And there was moments where it's sunny in the day, but raining in the morning.
06:58 I always try to get outside in the morning in the rain, because it's like, how can you
07:01 embrace the hardships of the challenge and just make it that much more difficult in its
07:06 own right.
07:07 People are doing this in like Andy, right?
07:09 - St. Louis.
07:10 - St. Louis, and it's freezing.
07:11 It's just a different context, but yeah, it's pretty good.
07:13 - I sent him a message.
07:14 I think it was this winter.
07:16 And he's even fallen off his own stuff.
07:18 I remember he sent a...
07:21 He made a post and I broke, and it was like 40 days in.
07:25 But a couple of weeks before that, it was the middle of a blizzard and he's out there
07:28 doing his walk.
07:29 And I sent him a message and I'm like, "You just are killing it."
07:32 And he sent me a message with like a frozen face.
07:36 But I mean, listen, I think what you get from that is the challenge is the challenge.
07:40 What you do inside the challenge is irrelevant.
07:42 What you gain as a human being after you accomplish that, what did you gain in 2020?
07:46 Just I mean, 'cause you're a young guy who has accomplished a ton and we're going to
07:49 get into all of that.
07:50 What you gained by completing something so arduous and difficult and required that level
07:55 of mental toughness and discipline, how has that helped you 2020 till now?
08:01 Obviously going through COVID, inflation, supply chain, crazy.
08:04 - For sure.
08:05 That's a great question.
08:06 You know, for me, something that I really embraced last year, like towards the end of
08:10 the year was just putting something daunting on the calendar.
08:14 Meaning I ran my first marathon last December and I am by no means, in my opinion, naturally
08:21 a runner.
08:22 Before, like a year and a half ago, the longest I've ever ran was probably two miles, right?
08:26 Like by no means a runner.
08:27 And I think just doing things that are hard, you learn so much about yourself to the point
08:33 where nowadays we'll get into this like biohacking stuff.
08:35 I do a cold plunge five days a week.
08:38 And like the act of doing something challenging just prepares you for life, in my opinion,
08:44 right?
08:45 Like I've had the privilege of having so many conversations with successful people.
08:49 And if you can maintain a level of like self-awareness and discipline through the hardships, in my
08:57 opinion, that's what allows you to be great.
09:00 If you can just stay emotionally at center through the ups, through the downs.
09:03 And I think by doing things like 75 Harding, cultivating that discipline just sets you
09:08 up for every area of your life.
09:10 And if I was to get tactical in what I have learned, I think it was, because the first
09:16 time I did 75 Harding, I failed similar to you.
09:19 And it just reminds you like, wow, we can all commit to things, right?
09:24 Like similar to you, like you commit to 75 Harding, or maybe you commit to a business,
09:26 or you commit to a pod, like starting a podcast.
09:28 And that initial excitement to start anything just goes away so fast.
09:34 And you quickly realize that the only answer is truly discipline.
09:38 And I've followed Andy for years, and he obviously preaches this in his own way.
09:43 And I've just learned so much from him and the way he discusses it that I just think
09:50 the idea of discipline has never been more prevalent in my mind.
09:53 And I think that's the most important thing that I've learned.
09:56 And I think what you just hit on is so important because when you look at a lot, and we have
10:01 a lot of similar friends and extremely successful high performance humans, just people that
10:06 absolutely crush in life.
10:07 And one of the common traits I've learned just by watching them, and I'm excited to
10:10 get them all in that seat and get to ask them here on air, is really successful humans not
10:17 only have the discipline, but they look for the hard stuff to do.
10:20 Where a lot of us naturally gravitate to, oh, what's the easiest road here?
10:24 I can go left or I can go right.
10:25 And left looks easy and right looks hard, let's go left.
10:28 I found that most successful humans, they choose the harder path because what you gain
10:32 as a human being by doing a cold plunge, by doing 75 hard, by committing to run in the
10:38 freezing cold rain or walk or follow a diet, say no to the drinks afterwards, and making
10:44 those sacrifices daily, it's a skill.
10:49 And when you hone that skill and master that skill and improve that skill, it's just like
10:52 running and gaining endurance or reading and becoming a better reader.
10:55 You become better at taking on hard things, which makes everything in life easier.
11:01 Absolutely.
11:02 I couldn't agree more.
11:04 You launched your podcast when you were 17.
11:06 That I did.
11:07 I remember it was December 21st, 2017.
11:09 It was the first episode I put out and it was nothing like this.
11:14 I started my podcast, the first episode on a pair of wired Apple headphones, walking
11:20 in circles in my room, creating a five minute audio like, welcome to the show.
11:25 The goal of this show is to interview successful entrepreneurs and share my story.
11:30 And mind you, that was when I was sophomore in high school, really had no business relationships,
11:35 no connections by any means.
11:38 I came from this very small town and the podcast, which there was a couple of things that led
11:42 up to starting that that we'll get into, but the podcast was just a vehicle that I wanted
11:47 to start to meet people, to learn something and to create business opportunity from.
11:52 And that's been like the core foundation of the show since the beginning.
11:57 And quite frankly, it hasn't changed since.
11:58 It's just, how can I learn something?
12:00 How can I meet great people and of course learn from them, but then create business
12:04 opportunity.
12:05 And we'll dive into how that paralleled into media kits and everything.
12:08 But the podcast, yeah, it's been over five years now and I know it's something that I'll
12:12 do forever just because it's something that I love doing.
12:15 And after interviewing 400 different founders, entrepreneurs, musicians, athletes, it's just
12:21 the conversations that you have.
12:22 I find myself in every area of life, like reflecting on and sharing stories that I've
12:27 learned from conversations with my parents to friends, to new people I meet.
12:31 Just it creates such a, um, like a diverse communication outlet in life after having
12:37 so many wonderful conversations with the intention to learn.
12:41 So you mentioned something led up to the podcast.
12:43 Yes.
12:44 So, you know, for the full backstory, I was born and raised small town in Virginia, Chesterfield
12:51 County, 30 minutes south of Richmond.
12:54 And growing up, I was a athlete my entire life, played hockey since I was three years
12:58 old, played that for 10 years and really just fell in love with sports.
13:02 Like that was my outlet as a kid.
13:03 And that was my whole identity.
13:06 And that quickly transitioned into teenage years to lacrosse, which I love so much.
13:11 And then leading up into high school, I was playing football.
13:15 And I remember literally like it was yesterday.
13:17 I was 16 or 15, 16 years old at the time.
13:20 First day of hitting practice in football.
13:22 I was, uh, you know, going out junior varsity, but I was always practicing with the varsity
13:27 guys, just like super ambitious in sports.
13:29 First day of hitting practice, I ended up getting injured and it wasn't one of those
13:34 injuries that I'll get into that was, I was rushed to the hospital.
13:38 It was something where I ended up landing on my head wrong.
13:41 I hurt my neck, excruciating pain and how it went is the next day I wake up, I can't
13:50 really move my head like one millimeter to the left or right excruciating pain, go to
13:55 the doctor.
13:56 And, you know, me being this 15 year old kid, that's just very opportunistic.
14:01 I'm like, Oh, I'll be fine.
14:03 I'll be fine.
14:04 Give it a couple of weeks, go to the doctor with my mom that day.
14:06 I literally remember like the building, the doctor, everything about this day.
14:10 Cause it was a pivoting point in my life.
14:12 Looking back, get x-rays.
14:14 I'm sitting in the room, just, you know, probably upset.
14:16 I go, I can't play the first game, whatever it may be.
14:20 And the doctor comes in and he says, you know, I have some good news and some bad news.
14:24 The good news is you are not paralyzed and obviously you're here right now and you're,
14:29 you know, relatively okay.
14:31 Considering that could have been an alternative.
14:33 The bad news is you've been diagnosed with inner spinae ligament damage.
14:38 You have to be in this neck brace and he's like unpacking it as he's telling me this,
14:41 you'd be in a neck brace for six months.
14:44 And as of now you can no longer play football ever again due to the instability of your
14:49 spine and that was from the impact.
14:52 Yeah, that's not something you were born with that.
14:54 No, no, that was from the impact from the impact and they knew it like that the day
14:57 after and just hearing that, you know, as a fifteen year old kid, it doesn't really
15:03 register but you know, just football.
15:06 You can't play lacrosse.
15:07 That's what they that was the initial thing, but I mean I ended up never playing football
15:12 again.
15:13 I was able to then play lacrosse, but in that moment, you know, I walk out of there now
15:17 wearing this neck brace, I have to sleep in it.
15:20 I have to go to school in it.
15:21 The only time I'm not wearing it for six months is when I'm showering, which is like you have
15:25 to be quick, right?
15:26 Because like you don't want to risk your neck moving by any means and it's the one like
15:31 you see on TV.
15:32 Yeah, like you have to like move your shoulders to the left and right.
15:35 Yeah, and there's I'll show you after this.
15:38 My friend who's an artist, his name is Daniel Alan Cohen.
15:41 We actually just made this incredible trophy.
15:45 Like we we made the neck brace like the centerpiece of the trophy and it's we dipped it in gold
15:50 like told pain at this whole thing and it's just to resemble like that journey that I
15:55 went through and you know to the point of like what led to the podcasting from that
15:59 moment that six month window of my life was filled with ups and downs and self-discovery
16:05 to the point where like the first two three months I was just depressed.
16:08 I had no purpose.
16:09 I you know lost my identity as an athlete when I met in looking back like the peak of
16:15 my life of like discovering who I am in high school and friends and everything and I was
16:20 just angry at the world.
16:21 I remember being just pissed off at my parents all the time throughout this journey.
16:24 I'm like going to school and you have the self-conscious like, you know, you're 15 you're
16:28 talking to girls you're in this neck brace and it's just like a weird time but little
16:32 did I know like the back half of that six months I found myself by accident just immersing
16:38 myself in personal development and entrepreneurship and started following the people like Gary
16:44 Vaynerchuk and you know funny enough like David Meltzer and these people that I am now
16:48 have had the opportunity to meet and have on the show but it was just a young kid that
16:53 I was on social media just immersing myself in this content that led to me just really
16:57 diving headfirst and after I was gaining all this knowledge about the world and business
17:03 and entrepreneurship it quickly led to me starting my own business where I was doing
17:07 Facebook advertising for local businesses in my area or trying to run their social media
17:12 and it was just that one moment in particular that completely changed the course and direction
17:17 of my future.
17:19 Before the injury did you see yourself entrepreneurial minded business like what was what was future
17:24 Casey in Casey's mind?
17:26 Yeah great question.
17:28 You know I growing up you know in school they'll hang you like the scantrons it's like what
17:31 do you want to be when you grow up?
17:33 I was the furthest thing from an entrepreneurial family.
17:37 My mom she was a special ed teacher for the last 12 years, babysitter, my dad's worked
17:42 at Philip Morris the tobacco company for the last 30 years and I it wasn't that I didn't
17:49 grow up around entrepreneurs therefore I didn't think that was an outlet I just didn't even
17:53 know that the whole world of entrepreneurship existed especially for someone that's young
17:57 and but I to the point that whenever you were handed a scantron I'd always circle like business
18:02 business business like business owner without really the intention of knowing what that
18:07 would entail and you know I was always the kid that was knocking on doors shoveling snow
18:12 throughout my neighborhood I was making different bracelets and like standing at the corner
18:16 of my street selling them to people passing by or just like if my brothers needed me to
18:22 cut the grass and you know dad told me to do it I would do it but I'd make them give
18:25 me five bucks like whatever it may be.
18:27 So I was always finding ways to try to make money and thinking about like the business
18:33 of like what I wanted to do so that I could go with friends or do whatever but it wasn't
18:38 until like that two three month period where I fully immersed myself where I really committed
18:44 my future to that like subconsciously at the time.
18:47 Yeah it's a it's interesting how life events can really alter and make you pivot in ways
18:54 but how you can build use them as a foundation to grow because your podcast I mean for those
18:59 who don't currently listen to or follow the Casey Adams show you have to this this this
19:05 man has interviewed some incredible humans I mean you had the privilege of interviewing
19:11 Larry King and I remember watching that and just going dude that is such a converse I
19:17 mean that's a that's an interview that anybody and everybody would want to have and you had
19:23 that opportunity and I mean Larry King is just one of many but that's probably my favorite
19:27 one I've seen in your show.
19:28 Thank you so much and my as well that is my favorite interview for many reasons in terms
19:33 of the importance and lead up to that and and everything it meant to me but.
19:37 I mean just the depth of that man's knowledge and all the conversations he's had and having
19:42 that and watching you two talk and I mean how old this this was you were.
19:48 I was 19.
19:49 19 I was gonna say this was I've been a year since I've seen I saw it and I've watched
19:53 it since I mean and Larry King passed away a year ago.
19:58 It was two years now two years now two years in January I think it was 20 20 21 like January
20:02 2021 or somewhere early 2021 and that's one of the incredible parts about podcasting and
20:08 the conversations that you've had and get to have is you also never know when that opportunity
20:14 may never exist again.
20:16 Absolutely and I would assume that you probably learned a lot from the 400 interviewees you've
20:20 had what was the one thing or the number one thing you learned from Larry?
20:26 Yeah I mean the Larry King interview as you said was and I reflect on it and I it literally
20:31 gives me goosebumps to this day because you know from 19 to 22 now I've grown so much
20:37 and knowing that while at 19 years old I had the opportunity to sit down with someone that
20:42 was not only the the top tier of someone in his field of broadcasting but just such a
20:48 pioneer of that whole space you know he was Larry King was born in 1933 he was 87 when
20:53 I interviewed him I was 19 there's like a 76 year age gap and the ability to talk on
21:00 this new age medium just the thought that he was open to doing that at 87 speaks to
21:06 the volume of how he's pioneered broadcasting radio just everything that he's done.
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22:06 And you know the one thing that I really took away from Larry that I've tried to implement
22:20 to my into my life from a podcasting perspective but more so just from a life perspective is
22:25 he has this quote he says I've never learned anything while I was talking and he just speaks
22:32 to the importance of listening in conversations with on a podcast or to your family or to
22:39 someone you you know talk to on the street and I think that's not only what I've learned
22:45 the most from him but I've tried to apply it in my life since that moment and I feel
22:50 like it's become such a part of who I am from the way I try to put out content to the way
22:54 I you know have built my brand is just all around listening right like when I think about
23:00 my content over the years like the podcast has always been that fundamental element to
23:04 showcase others to highlight stories and you know throughout all the hundreds of episodes
23:08 like hundreds and hundreds of hours I've spent listening and it wasn't always that way like
23:13 the first you know probably 10 20 episodes when I was 17 I remembered I was always so
23:17 anxious like to the next question to the next question and you forget that there's so much
23:22 value in just simply listening and letting your mind be present and he was the king of
23:27 that truly just if you watch his interviews and how he's like asking questions the way
23:32 he did it just you know he actually was in my opinion like one of the greatest listeners
23:39 which made him the greatest interviewer in my opinion of all time and that's by far what
23:43 I've the most important thing that I learned from him is just the importance of listening
23:47 I mean it's it's such a skill it's a skill that is so important to continue to hone I
23:51 mean that's I've had to work on my own listening skills being on this side of the table yeah
23:56 we talked about I mean being the host is way different than being a guest absolutely
24:00 I came into this you know I'm new to podcasting this is obviously a newer show and you know
24:05 I've been a guest on three four hundred episodes of other people's show I'm like oh it won't
24:08 be hard and then they happen you're like wait a second I have to do this whole thing listen
24:13 intently and ask and I don't get taken through I have to be the show host and make it relevant
24:18 and important and it's such an important skill how did you get the interview with Larry King
24:24 yeah that's a such a good story so you know in even before diving like in life I just
24:31 there's things that happen that you reflect on you reflect on and you're just like wow
24:37 if I didn't do that one thing that wouldn't have led to that like the creating opportunity
24:42 you know in my life I've been such a big believer in just putting yourself out there you know
24:45 I was small town didn't have any relationships and like the first two three years of my journey
24:51 it kind of how we met like I was going to so many different events that either Dan was
24:55 hosting or just people were hosting to just put myself out there and to create opportunities
25:00 and you know at the in the moment you don't know what they will lead to from booking that
25:03 trip or going to that event or you know raising your hand an event and sharing your story
25:08 all the things that are uncomfortable and the Larry King story so one of my good friends
25:13 is sort of like the snowball of the story his name is Michael Gruen and he was helping
25:19 Tillman for Tita restaurateur who owns Mastro's the Houston Rockets he was he had a book called
25:24 shut up and listen come out in 2019 so Michael was a hey you want to tell me on your show
25:29 you know he's billionaire just came out with a book I'm like absolutely did that one online
25:34 and it was one of like I think it was the first billionaire I interviewed so I was super
25:39 excited nervous for it had an incredible interview with him and then like two three weeks after
25:44 this interview mind you this was probably like summer of 2019 I get a text from Tillman's
25:50 team and everything like hey we're having a dinner at the Mastro's in Beverly Hills
25:54 with a handful of different you know podcasters and people that helped promote Tillman's book
25:59 would you would you want to come of course so fast forward you know probably two three
26:04 weeks I'm living in Arizona at the time come out to LA to come to this dinner specifically
26:09 get there there's probably 30 people there and Tillman we're at like the penthouse and
26:13 Mastro's Beverly Hills like such a cool experience and my friend which then turned my business
26:19 partner Kieran at MediaKids he was he was there with me and we sat at different sides
26:25 of the table and he ended up sitting next to this guy named Chance, Chance King and
26:31 I was on the other side of the table and Tillman's asking everyone to go around introduce themselves
26:37 share a little about you and he gets the chance and Tillman says to him you know such a pleasure
26:43 being on your father's show today I always appreciate his kindness and his interview
26:48 ability whatever he said and I was like oh wow that's Larry King's son and it was a very
26:53 intimate dinner everyone was talking to each other where I simply introduced myself got
26:57 to know Chance I was 19 at the time he was 20 so you know same age and we just hit it
27:03 off like genuinely as friends and you know I'm not the type of person when it comes to
27:08 like my interview approach over the years where it's like meet someone and ask to interview
27:12 someone in their network or they're close to I truly believe in just letting things
27:17 happen and not being like can you do this favor and get this person on my show but like
27:21 truly building relationships has always been like the foundational element of how I approach
27:25 things and like it was very serendipitous where the following week I was doing this
27:29 event in Los Angeles with like Rob Dyrdek and Drama and just we did this cool event
27:35 Young and Reckless speaking event I invited Chance he came by and you know we just started
27:39 hanging out more and then as time went on I'm the type of person where just over the
27:45 years whether that's on special occasions holidays I try to text people that I think
27:50 of and say like happy Thanksgiving or whatever it may be just to like put good energy out
27:55 there and to check in with people and I remember when I first asked Chance like you know it's
28:01 been such a pleasure getting to know you over the last few months I was just curious like
28:05 what would it take to have your dad on the show and do you think that's something he'd
28:08 be open to and I remember the first time I brought it up he's like you know he was just
28:13 coming out of a stroke he wasn't doing the best so probably not the best time like totally
28:17 get it and then fast forward that was probably like September October and then fast forward
28:24 to Thanksgiving that year I remember I was taking off on a flight from Virginia with
28:31 my family back home to Arizona and I remember Chance text me back because I messaged him
28:36 that day was a hey by the way I brought up the idea of my dad being on your show and
28:41 he said he'd be open to it like do you have any plans to be in LA in the next couple of
28:45 weeks I'm like you tell me day and I'll be there and I remember the days like it was
28:50 yesterday December 10th 2019 is when that the interview happened and I remember just
28:56 going to you know his famous iconic studio setting and waiting for him to come in him
29:01 rolling in on his wheelchair and you know one of the biggest takeaways that I learned
29:06 from him that day is when he came in it wasn't that he was not alert but you know he was
29:12 87 years old just coming out of a stroke in a wheelchair wasn't doing the best and maybe
29:17 soft-spoken but the moment the cameras turned on he was so hyper focused and in conversation
29:25 and it just blew me away from his ability to do what he's great at and you know that
29:32 was the story of how what led up to it and fun actually one thing I missed was a couple
29:37 weeks after I met chance I was at the Center City Mall in LA and I'm about to leave this
29:43 is hilarious that I totally missed this part Larry King scrolls right past me with him
29:52 and a couple buddies and this is literally a couple weeks after I met chance and you
29:55 know moments like that don't just happen so I kind of I see him I'm like oh my god I have
30:00 to go introduce myself so I walk up I introduce myself and just you know take a picture send
30:05 it a chance and it was just so crazy how like that interaction happened very shortly after
30:11 meeting his son which then prompted the you know to bring up the conversation of having
30:15 him on the show but yeah it's like you can't predict those occurrences in life and I think
30:21 that's the beauty of just you know saying yes to things that maybe you don't know what
30:27 they're gonna bring opportunities why opportunity wise but you know that's the story now I went
30:32 down but that's such an important lesson because I think while the story is awesome right and
30:37 it's it's entertaining it's cool to hear how you got that interview the message that you're
30:42 basically it all started because you said yes to something about a well I go to a dinner
30:48 because there's this opportunity and all this all too often we're waiting for opportunities
30:53 to fall in our laps that we don't realize they're they're there they're just disguised
30:56 as you having to do something that maybe you don't feel up to yeah and it's such a valuable
31:02 thing to do repetitively because yeah you know they don't all end up with an interview
31:06 with Larry King those are those are the grand slams yeah but they might might have just
31:11 been a good friendship with chance exactly right it might have just been to your point
31:15 you also had another meeting with Kieran who became your business partner later and when
31:20 you launched media kits and did you meet Kieran at that dinner did you know him before I knew
31:25 him before we were we were living together in Arizona you're already yeah we were already
31:28 roommates but yes I've known Kieran since like living back in Arizona I mean excuse
31:34 me in Virginia we met like when we were both 17 who was the first person you interviewed
31:39 on on your show a friend of mine named Caleb Maddox do you know Caleb do I know Caleb I
31:48 don't know if I know Caleb he was I know a lot of Caleb yeah Maddox the Maddox part his
31:53 sister named Paige no okay nothing I know of but good friend of mine the young entrepreneur
31:59 I remember the first interview that we did it was just literally on a phone we're trying
32:04 to record I'm trying to figure out the best way to record had no special mic setups or
32:08 anything but just and really not even the first interview the first 10 or 15 were just
32:12 friends of mine that I have met on social media like Kieran was like on the show Caleb
32:17 was a show a couple of people that I've known over the years that were like the young young
32:22 guys just figuring it out like pursuing their you know business endeavors were the first
32:27 guests and then it just slowly became this thing where I set a goal I wanted to do 60
32:32 interviews in the first 90 days of hosting the show and that was my mission of just cold
32:36 DM outreach and just going all in on that and I ended up doing it and it sort of set
32:41 the tone and gave me the confidence of putting myself out there reaching out and either getting
32:47 a no or getting a yes I was so surprised by you know the the willingness for people to
32:52 come on the show and mind you this was 2018 podcasting space was a whole in a whole different
32:57 say just it was a whole different space back then but that intensity the first 90 days
33:05 just set the tone and really made me fall in love with the process and I learned so
33:09 much from a host perspective just my interview approach and you know to really talk about
33:16 the podcast overall it was always you know in the back of my mind like how can I go meet
33:21 people have great conversations so that one day when I'm starting that company I want
33:25 to get the tactical advice from a business perspective like I can ask these people that
33:29 I have rapport with to you know if from a fundraising perspective if I want to go raise
33:34 a round of funding or if that was in the picture then I can just share this opportunity with
33:38 and it really came full circle when we were starting MediaKids back in 2020-2021 where
33:45 you know without going too far in the story yet we raise a round of funding in 2021 and
33:50 probably 90 to 95 percent of the investors in the round were literally past guests on
33:56 the podcast and it really just proved to me that you know podcasting as a medium there's
34:01 not many other things where you can just build deep relationships and like for example we've
34:07 known each other for years but we haven't sat down and had a 45 minute discussion and
34:12 when you do that you just build a much deeper relationship in my perspective with people
34:17 and it expedites a lot of the early stages of a relationship right like if we got dinner
34:21 or run an event and we're saying hello like you can do that and know people but when you
34:25 sit down and have an intimate discussion it just sets the tone of the relationship in
34:30 my perspective that is a very unique thing when it comes to just building with different
34:34 people in life.
34:35 I agree I think it also adds that element where if you said hey Jeff like we met let's
34:40 I'd love to connect deeper why don't we meet for a drink I'm gonna show up not knowing
34:44 what I don't know when we meet for a podcast I'm gonna tune up a little bit I'm gonna I'm
34:49 gonna do a little more homework on you and what you've been doing and catch up and fill
34:54 in some of the gaps that maybe I knew through conversation but it forces me to actually
34:57 prepare for a friendship and I think that that's a such a unique way to build a friendship
35:03 it's kind of I mean you're very outgoing you know for outgoing and sales minded and
35:10 people who are really attuned to go into networking events I just find podcasting and being a
35:14 guest and being a host gives you an opportunity it's like the new medium it's so much better
35:18 than a networking event or meeting over drinks in a loud crowded bar yeah it's to your point
35:23 it is it's an intimate one-on-one conversation it requires both of our time scheduled it's
35:27 usually in the middle of the day yeah and it it gives us this yeah which is the foundation
35:34 of building those great relationships so when you did your 60 and 90 days did you launch
35:39 all 60 in the first 90 days yeah I was putting out like three a week four weeks sometimes
35:43 two a day just no consistent schedule initially just firing away did you have a decent following
35:50 yet or was it I you know I was building my following but it wasn't anything monumental
35:56 by any means like the podcast allowed me to truly grow a lot in terms of just from
36:01 a brand perspective sharing you know when you post the clips or you know you share that
36:05 episodes live the guests sharing it on their page like a lot of growth happened with within
36:11 that process so what was the impetus for you to launch media kits because when we first
36:15 met I remember when you launch media kits because you sent you sent me over some information
36:20 about it and I was I was like you're like hey I didn't have a show yeah but you were
36:24 like check this out I just wanted your feedback and I remember seeing it and I was like this
36:27 is awesome what was the what was the inspiration and the impetus for you to say hey you know
36:31 what I'm gonna watch this yeah so media kits for those who don't know is a platform that
36:37 allows creators podcasters social media creators musicians you name it to create a media kit
36:42 or more of a digital resume with real-time data and analytics where we would tap into
36:47 all the API endpoints of Instagram Facebook Twitter Twitch YouTube anything you can imagine
36:52 and we create a beautiful as I said digital resume media kit so you can share with the
36:57 brand and really what led up to media kits in the story behind it was my partner Kieran
37:03 I've known him since 2017 when we were both living in Virginia he was in DC I was in Richmond
37:08 we got to know each other online and one of his good friends who I met is a big youtuber
37:14 his name is JR garage big in the automotive space like million plus subscribers really
37:19 that the idea that was planted in our head for media kits happened years prior to starting
37:23 it where Jeff came to us this is probably 2018 maybe 2019 he knew that we were both
37:29 in Facebook advertising and just marketing in general and he says hey guys like in a
37:33 group chat hey guys Pennzoil reached out to me they asked me for a media kit to do this
37:38 brand activation I don't really know what one is can you guys make me one so we go online
37:42 really what's a media kit oh it's like a digital resume you have your social media statistics
37:47 and I remember we made one on Canva Photoshop took us an hour so we sent it to him he got
37:52 the deal and then I think it's literally like three weeks later Ferrari contacts him so
37:57 he's like hey guys Ferrari contact to me they asked me for my media kit can you go update
38:01 all of my statistics because some of the things are outdated I changed you know I uploaded
38:06 some more videos I want to highlight different things can you go update that and send it
38:10 back to me so sure we're changing you know twos to ones and ones to twos he grew an extra
38:14 fifty five thousand subscribers we send it back to him and gets the deal and that's really
38:18 when we asked ourselves like wow why isn't there a way for creators to create a media
38:24 kit that never gets outdated that you don't have to go back and update the numbers manually
38:28 and on the flip side why isn't there a way for brands to view verified and trustworthy
38:33 data directly from the creator and that's when the light bulb went off but at the time
38:38 it was again this was 2018 2019 we were both just like moving to Arizona living on our
38:43 own for the first time we both didn't go to college and it just wasn't the right timing
38:47 like I was focused on a media company here and had his automotive agency so we just sort
38:51 of shelved the idea and then fast forward to early to mid 2020 kovats happening or still
38:59 living in Arizona and we just see tick tock really blowing up in terms of we like to say
39:04 like creators were being minted overnight and we really just like wow this whole crater
39:09 economy thing is absolutely blowing up we don't see any sign of it slowing down like
39:13 so many crater economy tools were raising big rounds of funding and the timing was just
39:18 much better where we were like hey we do see an opportunity here so for the first four
39:23 months of just sort of like it was an idea we were bootstrapping it trying to get designs
39:28 and just to get a visual of what it could look like and once we started talking to some
39:33 crater friends of ours which we had a vast from me being on the podcast and just being
39:37 in the crater space ourselves and putting out content validating the idea that led us
39:42 to the end of 2020 early 2021 and we said hey let's go do this for real and we set out
39:47 to raise a pre-seed round of funding and I really do it with a right team and I get funding
39:52 in and it was the first time raising any type of you know capital by any means and you know
39:58 that was a whole process that we can get into but we ended up raising just under 1.5 million
40:03 for media kits it was a roll and close over the course of six months and then we launched
40:07 the product in the company in terms of like craters being able to use it in August 2021
40:14 and from the day you launched I mean it was pretty quick success I mean I've been I've
40:20 been on the sideline watching your whole journey of it and I mean you guys you guys hit the
40:25 ground running and yes we did I mean what was it 18 months and you had an exit yeah
40:31 from launch we we launched the company in terms of when the first user could sign up
40:35 and obviously there was like six to eight months of work and fundraising and team building
40:39 prior to that but in terms of the product going live was August 11th and then last September
40:45 even it was like late August is when we officially sold the company and we were at Varo Nation
40:50 so just over a year and if there's so many learning lessons in there and you know one
40:54 of the things that I reflect on so much is about the journey and we can you know dive
40:59 into the nitty gritties of like the 12 months it felt like 12 years of just how much things
41:04 would change and evolve but you know Keir and I it was a small team the whole time like
41:09 eight to ten people and we were just so focused on one thing where I think a lot of companies
41:14 especially like early stage startup tech especially creator economy there's so many companies
41:19 trying to do everything initially when we were like hey we just want to be the best
41:23 media kit builder in this space there's there's been companies that do a lot they maybe have
41:28 a media kit tool but we want to be the best at this one thing and that was our intention
41:32 that's you know we called the company media kits we had the domain media kits dot com
41:36 like we wanted to be the go-to source for real-time data aggregation that you can share
41:40 in a link and we were the first people to really do that and we just wanted to go what
41:46 we said inch wide mile deep you know and we had this big launch party in Los Angeles with
41:50 Dan we had Wiz Khalifa come out and perform we had 700 different creators and friends
41:55 there and we really you know wanted to make a splash from a branding perspective and it
41:59 definitely gave us as you said like hit the ground running but the reality is with any
42:04 business you face hardships right out of the gate I remember the first like 45 days we
42:09 probably didn't get more than a thousand users and mind you this was a free tool it wasn't
42:14 just a paid tool that you had to pay for it you know it was a free tool with an upgrade
42:18 subscription and that's first 45 60 days it was just like why are people not signing up
42:24 are people using it like all those questions that we had to really dive into there was
42:29 so much to learn in there but again I could keep going on and on and on but I want to
42:33 pause there because the journey of media kits it being just under 12 months could have never
42:39 predicted that but I learned so much about myself about business fundraising company
42:45 structures everything you can imagine where you know I the last year and a half from a
42:51 business perspective has been quite the adventure that I'm beyond grateful for and I felt like
42:56 my timeline of learning that from start to exit was expedited in a sense what I love
43:02 about you Casey is and I think it's probably a fact of you having that 400 episodes of
43:09 all those people that you got to learn from beforehand is you're saying the things that
43:14 you know I've been doing entrepreneurship since I was 24 I'm 40 I didn't know half of
43:18 what you know until I was in my mid 30s like honestly like you you're so far ahead for
43:24 where you are in life and it's awesome to see because yeah what you're really saying
43:29 and what I'm hearing you say is all the learnings your problem solver you identified a problem
43:34 you solved it and yeah their success has come but you weren't focused on that you're focused
43:38 on being the best at what you do being remarkable you know it's what it's one of my core values
43:42 it's one of my success formulas is be remarkable or don't be it at all and don't stop when
43:47 the jobs done stop when it's the best you can possibly do it and through everything
43:52 you've been talking about I mean with your episodes to your business it's clear that
43:56 you are learning from those around you you are taking the advice that Larry King gave
44:00 you right you are listening and it's not just words being you know we all have those friends
44:04 they ask you a question they ask 94 other people the same question and then they take
44:08 nothing yeah you know I think there's a term for them like they're ask holes you know yeah
44:12 sure they just like to ask yeah ask ask ask and they want to talk about it but they don't
44:16 want to take action and another one of my success principles that I hold dear is taking
44:22 immediate decisive action when I make a decision and it sounds like you do that same thing
44:26 what would you say are your non-negotiables in business and as a person I love that question
44:34 my non-negotiables and you know when I think about business life it's very intertwined
44:39 for me right say how you do anything is how you do everything I really stand by that so
44:44 that quote by the way is written in you know who so we ask everyone who comes on the show
44:47 to sign their name and leave a message in our in our control room and okay that's the
44:51 message drew breeze left no way how you do anything is how you do everything I love that
44:56 so continue that's incredible this is great I love that you know core values if I had
45:01 to pick three I think number one is just and I say this because it will make sense for
45:07 the other to just stay curious and that might not be tactical or people like what do you
45:13 mean by that I believe staying curious in life from conversations you have to you know
45:20 the the opportunities have had good or bad just creates an open mind of potential happiness
45:27 and gratitude where if you're curious about the world you're always just curious about
45:32 what's next or what you can do or how you can be better it's just a fundamental truth
45:36 I try to live by versus trying to you know know everything or think that you know you're
45:42 capped at a certain level just like curious about your own ability curious about how you
45:46 can help people curious about the world in general and you know new technologies just
45:51 coming from a small town you I learned that so many people just cave themselves of you
45:58 know what they learn and what's what's you know what's available to them and they feel
46:04 that you know some opportunities are not for me not for me and they're not curious about
46:09 how they could you know what would they have to do to change their life to get something
46:12 whatever it may be so that's one just stay curious about the world number two it have
46:21 to be never stop learning you know I I'm someone that didn't go to college I graduated high
46:27 school I moved out to Arizona a month after and I knew so just so true to my core that
46:36 I am a lifelong learner and I you have to be and I knew that at you know 17 18 there
46:42 was a quote I'm gonna butcher it it's like the real education starts after college from
46:47 like what you really learn about life and yeah so staying curious like never stop learning
46:53 and that's in every area of your life from fitness to business to emotional relationship
46:59 and then I think number three is just core value has to be extreme gratitude every day
47:08 from waking up to you know time you go to sleep I always find moments throughout my
47:14 day to just be extremely grateful because I as you busy life things there's always more
47:21 to do but I appreciate that the 15 minutes call with my mom that you know they live in
47:26 Virginia or they call with my dad my brothers they're healthy I have a seven-year-old niece
47:31 who I love so much and I just think it's so easy to just be consumed from how you can
47:39 be better comparing yourself to others when the reality is if you can just live in gratitude
47:44 and like really know yourself be self-aware and remind yourself like hey like things could
47:50 be worse and not in a sense of like oh it's okay to just sit around but like be grateful
47:55 for what you have who you are and what this journey in your life has been like because
48:00 you're here today and you know as cliche as it is I think I embrace it let me actually
48:07 say differently one of my favorite interviews is with a lot of Robert Greene author of the
48:13 48 laws of power and he has this section called confronting your mortality which is just confronting
48:19 death and not that I've had any like death scares I'm 22 I'm healthy but just I'm I try
48:26 to be very hyper aware of life in general like you know we both love and I know you
48:31 do from our conversation earlier like longevity and how to you know potentially extend life
48:36 and feel great cold plans I do all that stuff but just life is very fragile and yeah being
48:45 grateful is the epitome of how I try to live I love all three of those as core values and
48:51 as success principles being curious for me personally has led to probably the most amount
48:58 of financial gain in business I've ever had is because I'm just I'm curious I look into
49:03 it and I see opportunity I see problems absolutely the lifelong learning that's just an incredible
49:10 life skill and to your point like we don't know what we don't know until we know it and
49:15 everyone has to learn we learn how to walk right no one is born knowing how to walk yeah
49:19 so when you realize that we can learn anything and when you're curious and open to seeing
49:24 what's out there and the fact that you come from a small town it's right it's probably
49:27 more rare because the world seemed probably pretty big when you were in your small town
49:32 in Virginia growing up only being in Southern California the world seems small just because
49:36 people are always coming and there's a lot of hustle bustle and so I think it's such
49:41 an important skill for everyone to push themselves outside of the comfort zone and don't just
49:46 live in the same bubble with the same stuff like my daughter she's going to college and
49:50 I'm pushing her I'm pushing her to get the hell out of here not because I don't want
49:53 her to stay close selfishly I do yeah but I wanted to see a different world I wanted
49:57 to be exposed to different cultures different ideas different perspectives go to a small
50:01 town in this in the southeast right go and experience and meet people like yourself back
50:05 when you were still there yeah you know I mean just your last one about gratitude I
50:10 think that's it's so amazing to me how when you come from a place of gratitude what doors
50:19 open up and how if you're even grateful for the hardships and the lessons the failures
50:24 that the tough times I mean you're you're living that with what you're doing with your
50:27 cold plunge the 75-yard I mean you are setting yourself up to say no no I'm embracing the
50:32 suck every day so when the suck of the ones that I don't pick when they come you're a
50:38 skilled sailor I mean you're there and those are the principles you you hear he didn't
50:42 say you know I I practice my broadcasting skills or I'm practicing my coding skills
50:49 those are skills that we can all learn but what you did say were the tactics and habits
50:53 which will allow you to be successful whatever's next for Casey yeah and I know that there's
50:58 stuff working that you're working on that we can't dive too much into right now but
51:01 yeah you're not done right not at all it's so it's so interesting and I think this is
51:08 good as well like I'm 22 I'm I'm in a serious relationship I've been in the last for the
51:14 past three years I believe you've met Jacqueline actually I think that's how we met she moderated
51:19 I was a speaker at a panel you know we were trying to remember how we know you're right
51:23 this is an event yeah you were with her yes I think me and you were on the panel we were
51:27 on the van and she was the moderator yes and your serious girlfriend is is related
51:33 to David Meltzer who's like my family yeah and that's how I got he asked if I would do
51:37 this panel and his niece right yes niece was moderating I was like yeah of course and I
51:42 think we met on that panel back in like 2019 yeah you are right now that you say that no
51:46 it continues so circle moment for sure but like being she's she's 29 I'm 22 and I feel
51:52 that the the level of maturity that I've just grown into from leaving home my hometown at
51:58 18 to like having some success and then being in a serious relationship I've just learned
52:04 so much about myself these past three years and I believe there's so much to go in depth
52:09 and from like a relationship and how you grow as a man but it's just yeah and when I think
52:16 about life from like physical challenges like a marathon to like having a phenomenal relationship
52:21 to success in business like it all stems from those three things like staying curious lifelong
52:27 learner and gratitude and that could be you know I'm grateful for you know that my toenails
52:32 are falling off on my marathon because I have the ability to run and you know like someone
52:37 I've had on the show I believe you know Nick Santinastassio he's someone that is such an
52:41 inspiration to me where if I'm like yesterday I did a leg day and I ran five miles and he
52:46 came in my mind and I think about him so much because just when you think about how people
52:52 overcome their own obstacles and you know take that as a learning lesson it just it
52:57 comes back to those three things for me so mm-hmm I mean yeah and Nick for those who
53:00 don't know is an incredibly inspiring human very much he was born without legs and one
53:09 partial arm yeah I don't know what the conditions called I don't remember I don't either very
53:14 rare very rare very rare and his mindset and approach to life when he's born with a
53:22 condition which to all of us you we just can't put our brain there like it's it's so outside
53:29 of the realm of our understanding but he is such a good human being and we actually met
53:34 at a we were both at a conference together a speaking conference actually I was working
53:39 on speaking okay and so was he and now I mean yeah and it was awesome and I got to meet
53:44 him there and we became friends and he's such a good human and that's what I'm finding
53:48 just through all these episodes that I'm doing and what I've met is the people who
53:52 I think are going to be my most inspirational interviews have yet to be them it's actually
53:58 been the people like that have overcome yeah and have dealt with such tragedy because they
54:03 helped me look at my own life and dive deeper into that grateful side absolutely and what
54:08 I'm grateful that I get to do every day yeah that I used to have to do right I love that
54:13 you get to you don't have to yes for sure that's I mean it's changed me yeah changing
54:17 me and I'm assuming that knowing you you know for the last handful of years I mean you're
54:20 just growing from all your interviews and can you give us a little taste of what future
54:25 case is going to be working on and maybe you can't yeah just anything you can tip yeah
54:30 I mean you know of course the podcast I've since you know media kits we got acquired
54:36 in September was at the company of our own nation for the past six months as of recently
54:41 no longer there and you know the company was absolutely incredible I just know for myself
54:46 and what I want to do in the future just you only get to live in your young 20s once right
54:53 and just having that ability to go build be creative build teams put out products is something
54:59 that I'm just super excited about and now having the experience of media kits I just
55:03 get to take all the lessons learned and apply it into a new venture but definitely you know
55:07 the podcast is always at the core of like how I want to live my life because again it
55:12 creates different opportunities and I learned some things one thing that I'm working on
55:17 that as I said is just more so something that I'm super interested in is just the podcasting
55:22 tech space and just the emergence of AI and how things like AI can automate a lot of the
55:28 post-production process I have this tool that I recently launched called listener FM and
55:34 the whole thesis is I've been a podcaster for five years and the ability to drop in
55:39 for example right after this show an audio file into a platform that spits out titles
55:44 descriptions show notes and all these different things that can make your life easier we built
55:49 that and we're just testing right now with tons of different podcasts and podcast networks
55:54 and we're gonna try it yeah it's by the way super cool yeah so that's awesome that's really
55:59 exciting and if you know if you're listening to this show and you're saying wow I mean
56:04 a lot of our audience might be older than you but you're you got wisdom beyond your
56:09 years man and and I'm so excited to watch the man that you have become it continue to
56:14 become and where you're gonna go and all the different disruptive technologies that I see
56:17 in your future you've been an inspiration for me I've learned a ton I'm trying to hone
56:23 my craft as a podcast host and a lot from you just watching how you did it at such a
56:28 young age and I say that because I'm I'm not young but I'm not old I'm like in the
56:33 middle you know I'm 40 I'm mid-aged and I a lot of my mentors and peers are much older
56:39 than me so I've always was the young guy to them you know and to see it now and to understand
56:45 how much I can learn from you it's been incredible everyone should be following you and listening
56:50 to your show the Casey Adams show and for podcast host check out listen FM listener
56:56 listener dot FM sorry listener dot FM and if you gain value from this episode you know
57:02 I it's something new that we're doing but I would ask that you like it you subscribe
57:06 and help promote it because we're trying to make success formula more available to everybody
57:11 and the more people we can impact the better everyone can be it's been an absolute pleasure
57:15 having you in studio today man I want to thank you for taking the time and driving here it
57:19 was not a small ask but you did it and you said yes and this was important because I
57:23 think as you mentioned the relationships that we can build right here face to face yep and
57:28 then after the show I'm gonna obviously ask for a lot of feedback so I can continue to
57:31 hone my skill and be as good as you absolutely Jeff thank you so much for having me on today
57:35 again this studio and your ability to bring this to life is just so incredible to see
57:40 so excited for you in the future of the show and again thanks so much for having me on
57:44 thank you guys thank you so much for listening if you're looking to level up your relationship
57:49 capital game then take a minute and text the word Jeff to three three seven seven seven
57:55 for a free copy of my network to millions playbook the link will also be provided in
58:00 the show notes below see you guys next time
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