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00:00:00 [MUSIC PLAYING]
00:00:05 Can you say hard hats, folks?
00:00:07 Hard hats, munch pails, steel tool boots.
00:00:09 Anything short of a championship this year is a fail.
00:00:11 It's not a real--
00:00:12 Look at this boomer right here.
00:00:13 You've just got so much talent here.
00:00:16 Somebody's saying we need to apologize for Jaylen.
00:00:18 Can I pull the John?
00:00:19 What are we apologizing for?
00:00:20 What did we say?
00:00:21 What did we do?
00:00:22 [MUSIC PLAYING]
00:00:25 [MUSIC PLAYING]
00:00:30 There it is.
00:00:33 It looks so pretty.
00:00:35 And it still works.
00:00:36 It's just as hard as it's ever been, folks.
00:00:40 Hard hats, steel tool boots, munch pails.
00:00:43 It's Sunday, which means double time
00:00:46 when the Celtics come to work.
00:00:47 Yes, they clocked out a little bit early today, John.
00:00:50 Maybe they left the shift a little bit earlier
00:00:52 than they should have.
00:00:54 Yeah.
00:00:54 Which means they actually had to work a little bit longer,
00:00:57 believe it or not.
00:00:57 They had to-- the starters had to put in a little bit more
00:01:00 time.
00:01:01 But you leave game one with a double digit 20 point win.
00:01:09 That's coming to work on a Sunday.
00:01:11 Celtics go up 1-0 in this series.
00:01:14 What was your prediction, series prediction?
00:01:17 So my prediction was Celtics in four.
00:01:19 And then I was like, everyone--
00:01:21 Nope, stop, stop, stop.
00:01:22 Everyone was going to do four or five.
00:01:24 And I was like, all right, I'm going
00:01:25 to take the contrarian view, which I did.
00:01:27 And I'm still not--
00:01:29 Classic.
00:01:30 I'm still not opposed to the idea that they could relax.
00:01:34 Actually, I'll say this, two things.
00:01:37 We're going to talk about a lot here, OK?
00:01:40 The Caleb Martin play for sure.
00:01:42 Oh my god, let's talk about that.
00:01:44 We will, we will.
00:01:45 Fourth quarter, does it matter, does it not matter?
00:01:48 Differing opinions, I respect both.
00:01:50 I'll tell you, my take, I want to not care.
00:01:53 I don't know that I don't care.
00:01:55 I hate slowdown.
00:01:57 But at 30-something points, it's kind of like, how much harder
00:02:02 are you going to press it?
00:02:03 They did their work in the third.
00:02:04 It's not bothering me.
00:02:06 A lot of hard hats in the chat today.
00:02:08 Love it.
00:02:10 But I don't love it.
00:02:12 We'll get Bobby and Josue's take.
00:02:14 I believe Sherrod is down there.
00:02:15 Also, everybody at the Garden for the playoff.
00:02:18 Gang.
00:02:19 My overarching thought on today, and I agree, they got bored.
00:02:27 It doesn't bother me as much.
00:02:29 You just would rather--
00:02:31 I'd rather see the bench do it than the starters do it.
00:02:35 That's all.
00:02:36 Just if you're no longer interested in playing,
00:02:39 don't play.
00:02:40 That's kind of the lesson learned down the stretch, too,
00:02:43 when they suited up for games and chose to walk through them.
00:02:45 That's my series.
00:02:46 But it's the playoffs.
00:02:47 Joe's not going to mess around and go Geno time
00:02:49 to start the fourth quarter and give the other team a shot.
00:02:52 He figured he'd get three minutes out of his starters.
00:02:55 They'd push it to 35 or 40, or at least keep it at 30,
00:02:58 and then Geno time it.
00:02:59 But they kind of stopped playing.
00:03:01 And then they were forced to play late, which is annoying,
00:03:03 because you had way too--
00:03:05 they screwed themselves by playing extra minutes.
00:03:07 But in the first round of the NBA playoffs,
00:03:10 none of this matters, because game two is in 10 days.
00:03:13 So it's stretched out.
00:03:15 It's not a big deal.
00:03:16 It's not a big deal, right?
00:03:18 No, I mean-- no, I mean, listen.
00:03:21 They won by 20 points.
00:03:22 I actually thought that Joe could have went to the bench
00:03:26 on the quarter he chose not to.
00:03:28 And the starters ended up playing the whole damn game.
00:03:30 And honestly, it almost really came back
00:03:32 to bite them when Tatum got hit there.
00:03:33 Caleb Martin, F you.
00:03:36 But yeah, I don't like that, just because, again, it's
00:03:39 like the PTSD thing, John.
00:03:40 You don't want to fall back into those--
00:03:42 they did it at the end of the second quarter, too.
00:03:44 And they just decided that they were just
00:03:46 going to watch the clock dwindle down and not play basketball.
00:03:49 So--
00:03:50 Which is strange, because--
00:03:51 But when they play, they go up 30.
00:03:54 So just play, you know what I mean?
00:03:56 And yeah, I mean, listen.
00:03:57 I think it's--
00:03:59 I think it's a--
00:04:00 I don't need to see them go up 40 before I see the bench.
00:04:04 But also, just keep playing just normal basketball.
00:04:09 Don't completely go to sleep.
00:04:12 Yeah, no one likes you to slow down.
00:04:15 Right.
00:04:15 But yeah, exactly.
00:04:16 No one wants to see it.
00:04:17 But what I will say is, I think it was a near perfect game
00:04:24 for three quarters.
00:04:25 And again, so much of it is that make-miss league stuff.
00:04:28 You flip last year, and you got Caleb Martin shooting 45%
00:04:31 from three, and the Celtics shooting
00:04:32 30 for an entire series.
00:04:34 And many people will attribute the entire series, really,
00:04:38 to these kind of outlier statistics,
00:04:40 where the Heat just shot unsustainably well.
00:04:43 I just don't want to give the Heat any reason
00:04:46 to believe they have a chance in this series.
00:04:47 You know what I mean?
00:04:48 I don't want them to feel like they have a shot,
00:04:51 because realistically, they don't.
00:04:53 And the way this game started, the way the Celtics went up,
00:04:57 the way they did, that's really the difference
00:04:59 between the Celtics and the Heat.
00:05:01 And that's why I picked them to win in four, because the talent
00:05:03 differential strengthened numbers.
00:05:05 The Celtics, just from 1 to 8, there's
00:05:08 just no competition right now for a butler-less Heat.
00:05:13 No Jimmy Butler, no Terry Rozier.
00:05:16 So there's just no talent there.
00:05:18 So don't let them feel--
00:05:19 No Josh Richardson.
00:05:20 Don't let them feel like they have a chance,
00:05:22 because they really don't.
00:05:24 That's pretty much it.
00:05:25 Yeah, so I thought, again, the hot start is great.
00:05:28 The three-pointer is great.
00:05:30 Like I said, near perfect game to start.
00:05:35 Not just to start, but throughout.
00:05:37 Even in the beginning, everything was kind of stemmed.
00:05:41 And so much of it had to do with--
00:05:45 I thought my favorite thing in this game
00:05:48 was the patience that they showed on offense
00:05:51 to get the right shot.
00:05:54 I thought, if you look at Tatum and Brown's stat lines--
00:05:57 we'll bring in Sherrod as well.
00:05:58 What's up, Sherrod Blakely, joining us from the Garden.
00:06:00 What's going on?
00:06:01 Looking good, looking sharp.
00:06:04 Playoff mode?
00:06:06 Yes.
00:06:07 Sherrod in the building.
00:06:09 So Sherrod--
00:06:10 Jimmy Hardhat.
00:06:11 You know it, baby.
00:06:13 So Sherrod, I'll ask you this question,
00:06:16 because we were kicking it around.
00:06:18 I think it was a near perfect game for three quarters.
00:06:21 The question to care, not to care about the fourth,
00:06:23 we kicked around a little.
00:06:24 But let's start with the first three quarters.
00:06:28 I thought they showed tremendous patience.
00:06:32 Everyone was saying, Tatum and Brown,
00:06:35 the stat lines at the end of the day--
00:06:37 I know Tatum got the triple-double,
00:06:38 but not wildly impressive, eye-popping stats.
00:06:42 I loved how they committed to the extra pass.
00:06:45 Miami decided that they were going to double.
00:06:48 And not only did the Patriots-- not only did Celtics pass out
00:06:51 of it quickly, they were waiting to see--
00:06:56 for them to tip their hand, whether they were coming
00:06:59 or just stunting to make a decision on what
00:07:01 they were going to do.
00:07:02 I thought Tatum showed really good patience
00:07:04 to kind of wait for it and to see.
00:07:06 They tried to do it to Porzingis.
00:07:07 They tried to do it to Brown.
00:07:10 They tried to do it to Tatum.
00:07:11 When they went zone a little bit,
00:07:13 again, you've got Porzingis, who's the zone buster, which
00:07:16 is why, again, I don't think that this is a trick that
00:07:18 Spolster is going to be able to go to in his bag
00:07:21 very often to disrupt the Celtics.
00:07:23 I don't think he could do much to disrupt the Celtics,
00:07:25 because if they do this and they maintain focus and patience,
00:07:29 that's great.
00:07:30 I think the only moments they faltered
00:07:32 were the few times Tatum and Brown were like,
00:07:35 let me get mine.
00:07:36 Let me go for it.
00:07:37 And they didn't do it very often.
00:07:39 There was only a couple of forces.
00:07:40 Almost everything else was in the flow.
00:07:42 Pass to the right place, some great skip passes from Tatum.
00:07:46 When there was pressure on one side
00:07:48 and he was getting trapped on the other end of the court,
00:07:50 one great play early when Hauser came in
00:07:52 and he kind of saved the Celtics when they went cold.
00:07:55 Skips it over to Pritchard.
00:07:57 Pritchard finds Hauser in the corner.
00:07:59 He hits the three.
00:08:00 I thought there was a lot of that all game long.
00:08:02 And any time Miami got anywhere close,
00:08:04 Celtics answered with another one and another one
00:08:06 and another one by maintaining that discipline.
00:08:10 I think this game was maybe the best playmaking game
00:08:15 Jason Tatum has had as a Celtic, because there were so
00:08:18 many opportunities where old Jason Tatum would have just
00:08:21 went ISO and would have looked to attack and try
00:08:24 to finish at the rim.
00:08:25 But instead, he showed poison patience
00:08:27 that we have not seen as consistently
00:08:30 throughout the course of a game of this magnitude before.
00:08:33 This was, to me, if you're Jason Tatum, if you're Joe Mazzuolo
00:08:36 and you're trying to get Jason Tatum to understand just
00:08:39 how important his play is, not just as a score,
00:08:41 but just as a poised decision maker,
00:08:44 rewind this tape, because I thought this, to me,
00:08:47 this was a TED Talk type game for Jason Tatum.
00:08:50 This is what great players can do
00:08:51 when they have been challenged to be more than what they're
00:08:54 supposed to be.
00:08:55 He's supposed to be a great scorer.
00:08:56 His playmaking and rebounding, I thought,
00:08:58 were-- they trumped his ability to score in this game.
00:09:00 And it's not that he doesn't have the ability.
00:09:02 It's just that he made what I thought
00:09:04 was a conscious decision that I'm
00:09:06 going to do whatever defense that Miami
00:09:08 gives me to do to hurt them.
00:09:10 If they're going to allow me to just pass whoever the hell I
00:09:13 want to, I'm going to put them in uncomfortable positions,
00:09:16 force their defense to do some things they don't want to do.
00:09:18 And I'm not looking to shoot.
00:09:19 I'm going to find guys.
00:09:21 And at some point, that's going to open things up for me
00:09:23 to get my own buckets.
00:09:24 And to your point, John, I thought him and Jalen--
00:09:26 I thought they had a couple of possessions.
00:09:28 You're right.
00:09:28 Where they went old school Jason, old school Jalen.
00:09:31 Just a couple.
00:09:31 I'm going to get mine.
00:09:32 I'm going to get mine.
00:09:33 Yeah.
00:09:33 But you look at the bottom line is those guys combined
00:09:36 for 13 assists and four turnovers.
00:09:38 I don't know too many games where those two guys have both
00:09:41 been just kind of in a great flow.
00:09:43 And even though Jalen only had three assists,
00:09:45 I thought he made a lot of nice hockey passes.
00:09:47 And in the fourth quarter, when Miami
00:09:50 was starting to make their run, there
00:09:51 was a point where Jalen was, why the hell open in a corner?
00:09:54 That shot was going to go up 9 out of 10 times.
00:09:56 So what did he do?
00:09:57 He just dribbled, dribbled.
00:09:59 Then he started to penetrate, kick it to an open teammate.
00:10:01 They got a 3.
00:10:02 Little things like that aren't going to necessarily show
00:10:05 the process and the poise that they show.
00:10:07 But those of us who've watched this team play
00:10:09 and have seen those two guys and their evolution,
00:10:12 this was such an important game for them
00:10:14 to do the little things.
00:10:16 I thought that was what really set them apart
00:10:18 from some of the other games we've seen historically
00:10:20 from them that were big games.
00:10:22 The little things really mattered against a team
00:10:24 like Miami.
00:10:25 I'll give Jalen a lot of love for that, too.
00:10:28 Because I-- praising Tatum's playmaking, in my mind,
00:10:32 I'm thinking, you know what?
00:10:33 Brown has not-- he has not gotten fancy
00:10:38 about trying to get his.
00:10:40 He was just passing.
00:10:42 And it wasn't even a hockey assist.
00:10:44 He was resetting the offense when it needed to be reset.
00:10:47 Wasn't even trying to make plays at times, which is why
00:10:50 the assist number isn't there.
00:10:51 It's like, double came for me.
00:10:52 I'm going to reset top of the key.
00:10:54 We're going to reverse it, and we'll go that way.
00:10:56 And that's fine, but it kept the offense moving.
00:10:58 The ball didn't stop, which was great.
00:11:00 The doubles came rather than try to force the issue
00:11:03 and get mine and get to my spot.
00:11:05 Did it, and I loved that.
00:11:08 Because that's what it is, is sometimes it's not
00:11:10 going to result in assists.
00:11:11 It's not going to result in a gaudy stat line.
00:11:14 But that's just what had to happen there,
00:11:15 is sometimes the best play is just give it back
00:11:18 to the guy who gave it to you and let him figure out
00:11:20 what next to do, because that door is closed.
00:11:22 They're going to double you off in that corner,
00:11:24 and we're not going to be able to do anything there.
00:11:26 I love that from him.
00:11:28 And then each time there was even a teeny bit of stagnation,
00:11:31 somebody came in to save the day,
00:11:33 whether it was Hauser there in his first run,
00:11:35 Derek White, who started cold all of a sudden.
00:11:38 He starts hitting bailout threes, Al Horford late.
00:11:41 Just a little bit of everything, where you've
00:11:43 got contributions.
00:11:44 And again, kind of the overarching thing,
00:11:48 as we talk about, is the best version of this team
00:11:50 is the one that is not overly reliant on Brown and Tatum
00:11:53 to do all of the work.
00:11:54 It's the one that recognizes that we
00:11:57 have problems everywhere.
00:11:58 And again, we're ignoring and burying
00:12:01 the lead, which is Christoph Porzingis is a cheat code.
00:12:04 And the Celtics really committed to going through him
00:12:07 and running through him early.
00:12:08 And that messed Miami up really bad.
00:12:11 Every time they were running actions and bringing Porzingis
00:12:13 up to the free throw line, and he could get the ball there,
00:12:18 Miami had no clue what to do to defend that.
00:12:21 And it resulted in a ton of open looks,
00:12:23 both for Porzingis and everybody else.
00:12:25 Biggest difference.
00:12:26 That's not going to change.
00:12:27 Yeah, biggest difference from last year to this year.
00:12:30 It only changes if they forget.
00:12:31 It only changes if they revert.
00:12:33 Everyone about the Celtics isn't worried about what they
00:12:35 can do when they do it right.
00:12:36 Everyone watching the Celtics is worried about,
00:12:38 what happens next game if Tatum and Brown are like,
00:12:41 ah, matchups.
00:12:43 That's my fear.
00:12:44 You see Hero, you see Caleb Martin,
00:12:46 you see these guys and you're like, oh, I'm going to work.
00:12:50 They didn't do it today.
00:12:50 They resisted that, which was great.
00:12:53 Yeah, you nailed it with the Porzingis stuff.
00:12:57 The first couple of shots that he took early on in this game,
00:12:59 I was just like, started to smile across my face.
00:13:01 Couple of those threes go down.
00:13:03 And you're like, that's what this team was missing
00:13:05 last year in the playoffs.
00:13:06 That ability to go to a guy like Porzingis when--
00:13:09 let's be honest, Sean.
00:13:10 I know that Tatum--
00:13:11 you said this is a game that you're going to remember from
00:13:13 Tatum, but really bad shooting night from Tatum.
00:13:16 Didn't get it going really at all from the field.
00:13:17 Got to the line eight times to push his points up to 23.
00:13:21 But some of those fouls, I mean, he really
00:13:22 shouldn't even been in the game at that point.
00:13:24 So offensively-- and you've got to give Tatum credit
00:13:27 for affecting the game in other ways,
00:13:28 with the passing, with the rebounding,
00:13:30 and credits him for the triple-double.
00:13:31 But this was a team effort in terms
00:13:34 of where the offense was coming from all around it.
00:13:37 But I thought Porzingis was the guy early on.
00:13:40 And obviously, Hauser in that second quarter, when things
00:13:43 got kind of stagnant and stale, and they
00:13:45 started to really start to shot chuck,
00:13:46 I thought, a little bit from three.
00:13:48 And it was almost to a point where the heat
00:13:50 climbed back anyway.
00:13:51 And he said, here we go.
00:13:53 But the Celtics credit to him.
00:13:54 They pushed the lead up.
00:13:55 But the way Porzingis is playing,
00:13:58 he can just shoot over anybody that they put on, basically.
00:14:01 And that was, to me, the big difference in this one.
00:14:08 I'll echo what John said about White.
00:14:10 I can't remember exactly when he scored,
00:14:12 but he was late to the party today.
00:14:13 But he really came on, and whether it was White or Hauser,
00:14:17 those guys picked it up for Tatum and Brown,
00:14:20 who had good games, but not because they were lights out
00:14:24 from the field.
00:14:25 I thought the way Brown started, which he does a lot,
00:14:27 the way he started set the tone early in this game.
00:14:30 And Celtics came out like gangbusters.
00:14:32 What was it, like 15 to nothing or something crazy
00:14:34 like that to start?
00:14:35 And Brown had the three to start it.
00:14:38 And then he had the dunk.
00:14:39 And the place was rocking.
00:14:40 And you kind of felt like the Celtics
00:14:41 were going to run away with it, which
00:14:43 when you look at the final score, they did.
00:14:45 Obviously, there's some runs within the game
00:14:47 that makes it a little closer here and there.
00:14:49 But this game, the Celtics winning by 20
00:14:54 just kind of confirmed what I thought
00:14:56 and what I've been saying for the last couple of months.
00:14:58 If the Celtics play the Heat-- and again, Butler's
00:15:00 not in this game, so obviously that's a big caveat.
00:15:02 But the Celtics and the Heat are not in the same stratosphere.
00:15:06 They're just not.
00:15:07 This should be a four-game series.
00:15:10 I agree.
00:15:12 I mean, Porzingis was great.
00:15:14 No one should try to take anything away from that.
00:15:16 But the reason why I point out Tatum
00:15:18 is because Tatum was doing untatum-like things
00:15:20 at the start of this game.
00:15:22 The idea that Tatum is being a playmaker,
00:15:25 that's something that you don't expect to see because it's
00:15:27 something he does not do very often.
00:15:29 And I thought that that set the tone for how
00:15:32 the rest of the guys responded.
00:15:34 Porzingis is the cheat code that Miami and most teams
00:15:37 don't have an answer for.
00:15:38 If you go small, he'll just shoot over the top.
00:15:40 And they can't really go that big
00:15:43 because when they go big, it's Bam.
00:15:44 And Bam can't guard him.
00:15:46 You look at the numbers from the regular season,
00:15:48 he shot like 56% what Bam was guarding in this season.
00:15:52 So the issue for him is not scoring when Bam is on him.
00:15:55 And that's a problem because Miami does not have--
00:15:58 they don't have an alternative that they can turn to.
00:16:00 And again, my concern with the Celtics
00:16:03 was understanding and embracing what Porzingis
00:16:06 brings to the table.
00:16:07 But don't beat it to death.
00:16:10 And find that balance between making him
00:16:11 a significant part of what you do,
00:16:13 but don't try to go down six, seven, eight possessions
00:16:15 in a row trying to get that mismatch because it's just not
00:16:18 going to work.
00:16:19 You've got other guys around.
00:16:20 You want to find that balance.
00:16:21 I thought Joe did a really good job,
00:16:23 and Tatum and all those guys did a good job of balancing
00:16:26 that getting him going, but at the same time, not forcing it.
00:16:30 Yeah, that's why I've never understood why this team would--
00:16:34 I understand wanting to play through certain people.
00:16:36 Porzingis is just kind of a ready-made mismatch,
00:16:39 particularly if you get him on a switch and he gets the ball
00:16:42 and can just kind of seal and turn around and shoot
00:16:44 over the top.
00:16:45 That's just dad ball.
00:16:47 That's just not fair.
00:16:49 It is.
00:16:50 Your son literally can't jump high enough
00:16:54 to contest a shot when you're standing still.
00:16:58 That's legit dad ball cheating stuff.
00:17:00 I miss those days.
00:17:02 Yeah.
00:17:03 Everything else is--
00:17:05 to me, I don't understand hunting match-ups
00:17:07 because theoretically, you have a match-up anywhere.
00:17:11 Why not just get it to the person in the best position
00:17:14 rather than slow the whole thing to a crawl
00:17:17 and let a guy set somebody up and allow people to kind of
00:17:21 cheat and look over and stunt and see
00:17:23 whether they're going to double and allow the guys in the paint
00:17:28 to be able to come over and to help?
00:17:30 And I hate that.
00:17:31 That's the last thing I want to see.
00:17:33 I would much, much, much rather see them continue to work it.
00:17:35 So this was an extra pass sort of game, which I loved.
00:17:40 It's just-- it's the discipline to do it throughout.
00:17:43 I said this early, and everyone's
00:17:46 going to go on the hating train here.
00:17:49 It's not-- my biggest--
00:17:52 I believe that the Celtics are so much better
00:17:58 that it should be a sweep without trying, right?
00:18:04 Yeah, should be.
00:18:04 But my biggest fear of the entire series
00:18:08 is boredom, like both what happened in the fourth quarter
00:18:11 and I said, the only thing I don't
00:18:14 want to see is a game where the Celtics come out and knock down
00:18:17 25 threes in game one and think, oh, shit, this is easy,
00:18:20 and then come out in game two and are like ice cold
00:18:24 and don't adjust in time to be able--
00:18:26 and then the other team gets hot.
00:18:28 That's the only thing I didn't want to see.
00:18:30 So I'm not saying, wow, this 30-point win,
00:18:33 even though it ended up being closer than that,
00:18:35 was not what they wanted.
00:18:37 But complacency is the only thing that
00:18:39 can possibly hurt them against a clearly inferior and wounded
00:18:44 opponent like they have here.
00:18:45 So I'm putting it out there that it was great
00:18:51 because they were earned, but they also don't always fall.
00:18:56 Get out of here.
00:18:57 Interesting comment.
00:19:00 I guess Scout said this on postgame, apparently.
00:19:03 Or at some point, Scout apparently said that
00:19:06 because Zach followed up.
00:19:08 If you're Miami, listen, at some point, if you're Miami,
00:19:10 you've got to make this into a much more high-level physicality
00:19:15 type of situation because you're not going to finesse the Celtics.
00:19:17 They have more talent.
00:19:18 They're deeper than you, and the talent that they have
00:19:20 is better than yours.
00:19:21 So you're going to have to make it a dirty game.
00:19:24 You're going to have to muck it up.
00:19:25 That's their only shot at making this thing-- forget
00:19:28 about winning it.
00:19:28 Make it competitive.
00:19:29 That's their only shot at making this thing competitive.
00:19:32 Because to John's point--
00:19:34 go ahead.
00:19:34 No, finish your ad.
00:19:35 But I'm cutting John off.
00:19:36 But you--
00:19:37 No, go ahead.
00:19:38 No, go ahead.
00:19:38 No, finish.
00:19:39 You got it, Jimmy.
00:19:39 I'm passing the baton to you, Jimmy.
00:19:40 Go.
00:19:41 OK, fine.
00:19:41 No, I want to--
00:19:42 sorry.
00:19:43 What I wanted to say was John's concern
00:19:45 is that the Celtics might get bored.
00:19:46 If the heat play--
00:19:49 but I mean, in my opinion, that was a dirty foul by Martin.
00:19:53 If you watch the replay, he made no attempt at the basketball.
00:19:56 He locked onto Brown--
00:19:59 sorry, he locked onto Tatum, saw Tatum jump,
00:20:01 and just hip checked him.
00:20:02 It was a hockey hit.
00:20:03 I mean, if they're going to play that way,
00:20:05 I think that will lock this-- and that's
00:20:07 going to make the Celtics lock in more.
00:20:09 They're not going to get bored if they're getting pushed
00:20:12 around or they're getting cheap shotted.
00:20:14 I didn't love-- I like that Brown kind of got
00:20:19 in the middle of it.
00:20:20 But I want to see the Celtics get pissed.
00:20:23 And that's what they're going to need to do to avoid this going
00:20:27 to six, because like John said, the talent is
00:20:30 unquestionable on the Celtics' side.
00:20:32 But they could get bored.
00:20:33 And the heat could sneak one.
00:20:35 Like, Solstre is obviously capable of making adjustments
00:20:38 before the next game or before game three
00:20:40 and winning a game or two.
00:20:41 But if the Celtics get to the point
00:20:44 where they're just pissed off, then I don't see that happening.
00:20:47 Yeah.
00:20:48 And I want to get more into that,
00:20:50 because I'm curious everybody's take here, dirty, not dirty.
00:20:54 And we want to get involved there.
00:20:58 We're also going to get a little bit--
00:20:59 let me see what we have here.
00:21:01 We're going to get some post-game reaction coming
00:21:03 to momentarily from the Garden.
00:21:09 We want to tell you at home briefly,
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00:21:27 First time I checked Twitter around 9 AM,
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00:21:38 They love it out there, though.
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00:23:32 We do have some sound rolling in here,
00:23:36 and I'm going to get to that.
00:23:37 And let me see what it's about.
00:23:39 We have--
00:23:40 Scal said it was shady.
00:23:41 He thought the situation was shady.
00:23:45 We have Joe Mazzulla talking about something.
00:23:48 I'm not sure exactly what.
00:23:49 Amit, producer boy?
00:23:52 You're a producer boy.
00:23:55 Let's just find out together as friends.
00:23:57 Let's find out.
00:23:58 Joe Mazzulla talking about something.
00:23:59 Together.
00:24:01 The broke out with about a minute to go.
00:24:03 Jason just pops right up.
00:24:05 Looks like he just wanted to get out of it
00:24:06 and shoot his free throws.
00:24:08 What do you see in that moment and just sort of his mindset
00:24:11 and approach throughout this game?
00:24:13 Yeah, his mindset approach throughout the game was great.
00:24:14 I thought he played with great patience.
00:24:16 I thought he picked and chose his spots very well.
00:24:18 I thought he took what the defense gave him
00:24:20 and found the balance of creating
00:24:22 for himself and for others.
00:24:23 So the fight for that discipline on the offensive end
00:24:27 and both ends of the floor really
00:24:28 is a huge key to this series.
00:24:30 And the team's overall approach, you
00:24:31 talked a lot about managing runs, the margins, things
00:24:34 like that coming into the series,
00:24:35 but also dealing with their physicality and some
00:24:37 of the ways they might try to get under your skin.
00:24:39 How do you feel like the team as a whole
00:24:40 handled those things tonight?
00:24:42 Yeah, I mean, I think there was a four or five minutes
00:24:44 stretch where we didn't handle it well,
00:24:45 but I thought for the other 42, 43 minutes,
00:24:49 that's the recipe.
00:24:51 So the balance is having the humility to do it even better.
00:24:54 So 11 turnovers, got them on the sharp margin,
00:24:56 didn't foul, and held them to five offensive rebounds.
00:24:59 So the adjustment is do it better,
00:25:02 do it with more physicality, and you got to be ready to do that.
00:25:04 OK.
00:25:08 There you have it.
00:25:09 What I will say is this.
00:25:13 You mentioned possibly awaking them.
00:25:15 I kind of would have liked a little bit more reaction
00:25:19 there from the Celtics when that happened.
00:25:23 I'd like to see a little bit more rallying around.
00:25:25 Your star player can't go down like that.
00:25:27 Brown went over.
00:25:29 When Martin went to reach for him, he swatted him over.
00:25:31 I like that.
00:25:32 But if Martin doesn't swipe at Brown,
00:25:34 he's not getting in his face there.
00:25:36 Brown reacted to Martin swiping back at him
00:25:39 after he shoved him out of the way.
00:25:41 And look, I like the at least Brown went in there and said,
00:25:43 get away from my guy, which is great.
00:25:46 I want to see someone get up in Martin's face
00:25:48 there because Tatum popping up and going to the free throw
00:25:51 line, and then Jalen at least stepping in,
00:25:54 but nobody else doing anything.
00:25:56 Your immediate reaction has to be to circle him
00:25:59 and to get in there and be like, what are you doing?
00:26:01 Immediately there.
00:26:03 I'd like to see more of a response from the Celtics.
00:26:06 I really did.
00:26:07 It was fine.
00:26:08 You don't want to get text.
00:26:09 You don't want to get fouls.
00:26:10 And like I said, at least Brown got in there
00:26:12 and was like, away from my guy, dude.
00:26:14 So that's good.
00:26:15 I kind of want to see a little bit more.
00:26:16 That's all.
00:26:18 It's a delicate balance for them, John.
00:26:20 Some people are saying no.
00:26:21 They like it.
00:26:22 That's fine.
00:26:22 I want the players.
00:26:24 I just think that because they're
00:26:26 so much better than the Heat, they know what's happening.
00:26:31 Heat have to muck it up.
00:26:32 And this is one of those ways you can muck the game up.
00:26:34 Get Jalen Brown to pop off and do something.
00:26:37 And all of a sudden, you've got him and Caleb Hart going at it.
00:26:40 And maybe both of those guys are suspended for game two.
00:26:42 Guess who's going to benefit more from it?
00:26:44 Both of those guys are out.
00:26:45 Miami.
00:26:46 So I understand the need for restraint to some extent.
00:26:50 But there has to be--
00:26:52 I would like to see a little bit more something too, John.
00:26:54 I just don't know what that is.
00:26:56 But I understand why they didn't.
00:26:58 Because at the end of the day, if Jason gets up
00:27:02 and he walks away and he's clearly OK,
00:27:04 you're going to win this thing by 15, 20 points.
00:27:07 Use that moment as motivation for going to game two.
00:27:10 Use that moment where you did respond as a way to, OK,
00:27:13 we didn't respond at the end of game one
00:27:15 because we had your asses whipped.
00:27:16 Now we're going to come out of game two,
00:27:18 and we're going to beat you even worse than we would normally
00:27:20 beat you.
00:27:20 Because we're pissed that you went after our boy.
00:27:22 So we're going to make an example out of you.
00:27:24 And Caleb Martin, I would make a point out
00:27:27 of going at his ass early.
00:27:30 If I'm Jalen Brown and I'm on a break
00:27:31 and he's between me and the rim, guess what?
00:27:34 Pull out the yellow tape because we've got another victim
00:27:36 about to be had.
00:27:39 I would like to see someone hat, but I get your point, though.
00:27:43 I hear what you're saying.
00:27:44 That's fine.
00:27:46 Maybe it's a boomery '80s take.
00:27:48 No, it's not.
00:27:49 No, so what my hope is is that because it
00:27:53 was a live action play, I'm hoping
00:27:55 that a lot of the Celtics players didn't see it live.
00:27:58 Maybe Brown didn't.
00:27:59 That's why he reacted the way he did.
00:28:00 But I have a feeling the game's over.
00:28:03 They're watching the replays.
00:28:04 They're seeing the film.
00:28:05 They're going to see that blatant, dirty, reckless play.
00:28:09 And Treshawn, to your point, that is going
00:28:12 to carry over into game two.
00:28:14 I want to see them--
00:28:15 John, I'm with you.
00:28:16 I want to see them react.
00:28:18 Because if you have to point or try to figure out
00:28:22 what a concern would be about this team,
00:28:24 I think we've all kind of said physicality, maybe
00:28:28 some toughness.
00:28:30 And so when you have that moment where
00:28:33 you can show toughness or physicality or show that,
00:28:36 you're not going to bully us around.
00:28:37 The Heat have been a dirty team.
00:28:39 I'll say this.
00:28:40 I don't want to go off on a tangent here.
00:28:43 Heat have been one of the dirtiest teams over the last 20
00:28:45 years.
00:28:46 Dwayne Wade, one of the sneaky, dirtiest players
00:28:48 the NBA has seen in the last 20 years, Sherrod.
00:28:51 And I know you know it.
00:28:52 And we can get Rajon Rondo on this show,
00:28:54 and he will tell you the same damn thing.
00:28:56 And so this has been something that the Heat have been--
00:28:59 I was waiting for the Rajon Rondo comment, Jimmy.
00:29:01 I was waiting for that one.
00:29:02 --Spoelstra knows exactly what he's doing.
00:29:05 And in that moment--
00:29:07 Do you think he ordered the code red?
00:29:08 I don't know if he ordered it, but I
00:29:10 wouldn't be surprised if he said,
00:29:12 give them something to think about.
00:29:13 I don't-- no one's trying--
00:29:14 I don't think anyone's trying to hurt another player, John.
00:29:17 But I think the Heat wanted to make a--
00:29:19 Ratchet up the physicality.
00:29:20 Exactly.
00:29:21 The Heat wanted to make a statement like--
00:29:21 Ratchet up the physicality.
00:29:22 --yeah, you got us today, but we're not going to get--
00:29:24 we're not going to get pushed around by you.
00:29:26 You guys aren't going to bully us.
00:29:27 But the Celtics have to respond in their own way.
00:29:29 So yeah, you don't want to see-- you don't want to see them go
00:29:32 crazy and go on--
00:29:33 get a bunch of tees or flagrants or all that stuff.
00:29:35 But you want to see them respond by being equally as physical.
00:29:39 Look, in the reverse--
00:29:41 And say that's not going to fly.
00:29:42 What did we not like last year?
00:29:45 Grant Williams being out of place
00:29:47 as the only guy with enough sack to get in Jimmy Butler's face
00:29:51 and make a stink.
00:29:52 And what was embarrassing about that is Grant's not that guy,
00:29:55 and he shouldn't be that guy.
00:29:57 But it was also that nobody else sacked up and did it.
00:30:01 And that was--
00:30:02 Right, that was my big thing last year.
00:30:03 People were claiming--
00:30:04 It was a double whammy.
00:30:05 I was like, Grant had to do it.
00:30:07 You guys didn't support him.
00:30:09 But he's doing it because none of you guys
00:30:11 showed any dog at all.
00:30:12 And you're getting chumped.
00:30:13 You're getting chumped by these guys.
00:30:14 So again, just get--
00:30:17 just-- nobody's actually going to take a punch in the NBA.
00:30:21 So there's nothing to be afraid of.
00:30:23 You're either the bully, or you're getting bullied.
00:30:25 Just get in there and stick your mug in there
00:30:28 and feel good about it.
00:30:29 You feel good about it.
00:30:30 That's all.
00:30:31 Tatum went down very hard.
00:30:33 That could have been way worse.
00:30:34 And he might be sore tomorrow.
00:30:35 You land on your tailbone that way,
00:30:37 like it might not be something you feel right away.
00:30:39 He had his head snapped back.
00:30:40 I didn't like that at all.
00:30:41 No, that was-- and again, everyone
00:30:43 needs to watch the replay again.
00:30:44 I'm sure everyone has seen it.
00:30:45 Everyone needs to--
00:30:46 But the more you watch it--
00:30:47 The more you watch it, the more--
00:30:48 The more you watch that-- and there may be a fine coming
00:30:51 in the play.
00:30:51 There should be.
00:30:52 There should be.
00:30:52 It was not a basketball play.
00:30:53 I would not be surprised if we get--
00:30:55 would not be surprised when they review that game that he
00:31:00 gets fined for that.
00:31:00 I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics pointed out that, hey,
00:31:03 league, you might want to look at what
00:31:05 happened to one of your top five players
00:31:07 at the end of the game where his team is beating the snot out
00:31:09 of the other team.
00:31:10 And you got role player Caleb Martin acting as if he's
00:31:13 Charles Oakley 2.0.
00:31:15 Come on.
00:31:15 I mean, Tatum--
00:31:16 He's not that great.
00:31:17 Tatum always has gripes, regardless
00:31:19 of the player, the fouler, or the non-fouler.
00:31:21 But he has a legitimate gripe on this one,
00:31:23 because that was about as dirty as you can get.
00:31:28 I mean, he could have broken his arm.
00:31:30 I mean, you know what I mean?
00:31:33 He put his arms out to brace the foul.
00:31:35 That's just not cool.
00:31:37 Worse than trying to contest a three-pointer
00:31:40 and getting into the landing zone
00:31:41 that you'll get a flagrant for now.
00:31:43 So what's the difference?
00:31:47 The refereeing tonight was sketchy a little bit.
00:31:50 There was some--
00:31:51 It was a little bit.
00:31:51 Strange calls and strange non-calls.
00:31:54 It was an issue.
00:31:55 It was a blowout, so it didn't really come into play.
00:31:57 Exactly.
00:31:58 Anyways, I think that you're going to see--
00:32:01 I shouldn't say I think.
00:32:02 I hope that you're going to see a Celtics team that,
00:32:05 to your point, Sherrod, has a little something extra
00:32:08 for Caleb Martin the rest of this series.
00:32:10 If he thinks he can just drive to the paint,
00:32:12 he should think twice every time he does.
00:32:15 The sad part is that, if you're the Celtics,
00:32:17 it's not like they have a player that you could basically
00:32:20 retaliate and be overlooked physically.
00:32:22 I mean, you want Tyler Herro on the floor.
00:32:24 4-13, 11 points, yeah, because you've got guys just placing
00:32:29 him straight up that you can limit him.
00:32:30 Bam out of bio, he's going to get his.
00:32:32 But you know what?
00:32:34 Is there anyone else that you feel like is a villain
00:32:36 on that team, that you feel that there's enough vitriol that you
00:32:39 feel that you need to--
00:32:41 that's a guy we need to make a statement to.
00:32:44 There's no Jimmy Butler.
00:32:45 There's no Terry Rozier.
00:32:46 And you've just got Bam and Tyler Herro,
00:32:49 who does not normally play well against the Celtics.
00:32:52 So it's like, I think part of the Celtics' mindset is--
00:32:55 and I think Joe Mazzullo has talked about this often--
00:32:58 all we've got to do is be who we are.
00:33:00 And if we do that, we're going to win every game.
00:33:02 On a bad night, we'll win by 12.
00:33:03 On a bad game, we'll win by 12.
00:33:05 And this will be over in four games.
00:33:06 He's not going to come out that specifically.
00:33:08 But that's the reality of this series.
00:33:10 If they simply play the way that they're capable of--
00:33:13 and they don't even have to play perfect.
00:33:14 Just play the type of basketball that you
00:33:16 are accustomed to playing.
00:33:18 You're going to win every game by double digits, comfortably.
00:33:23 And there's nothing Miami can do about it.
00:33:25 I want Caleb Martin on the floor for like 75% of--
00:33:32 Well, let's talk about Caleb Martin--
00:33:33 On the floor, I mean like laid out on the floor.
00:33:37 Yeah, let's talk about Caleb Martin in another way.
00:33:46 He sucked.
00:33:49 He sucked.
00:33:50 Yeah, he did suck.
00:33:51 He's not the Caleb Martin that I saw last year.
00:33:54 So if you're a Celtics fan--
00:33:56 One dirty play.
00:33:57 I like that stat line.
00:33:58 Look at that stat line.
00:34:00 Yeah.
00:34:00 4.26, one dirty play.
00:34:04 So one dirty play and 0 three-pointers hit.
00:34:08 Yeah.
00:34:11 So anybody watching here probably had the same vibe.
00:34:16 Watching Caleb Martin suck at basketball,
00:34:18 because Caleb Martin kind of sucks at basketball.
00:34:21 And then remembering back to the fact
00:34:22 that Caleb Martin basically single-handedly
00:34:25 ended your championship dreams last year,
00:34:27 and wondering like, god, how did that happen?
00:34:32 Like--
00:34:32 Or still, you're later wondering.
00:34:34 Yeah.
00:34:35 I know, and again, it's very easy.
00:34:38 I go back and forth with this, because I
00:34:40 think you make your own luck to an extent.
00:34:43 But certainly, the heat shooting the way
00:34:45 they did in the playoffs and the Celtics not--
00:34:49 part of that was an outlier performance on both ends,
00:34:53 and that's what led to that result.
00:34:55 But it's just bananas that Caleb Martin
00:34:57 did what he did when he's such a league average jag.
00:35:04 So he did nothing until the end of the game there,
00:35:07 as you said, one dirty play in the 29 minutes.
00:35:09 But a guy they absolutely need to do something,
00:35:13 Tyler Harrow also did a whole lot of nothing.
00:35:16 And a lot of that had to do with Drew Holliday.
00:35:19 And White.
00:35:20 Yeah, both those guys.
00:35:21 He does not--
00:35:21 Holliday was up in his shit all first half.
00:35:26 And again, he did miss a couple of open threes as well,
00:35:29 a couple of looks that he might make.
00:35:31 And he's a contested shot maker, too.
00:35:32 So sometimes good defense can only take you so far.
00:35:35 He can do that.
00:35:37 But Holliday was bothering, bumping him,
00:35:41 getting in his way wherever he was trying to go a ton early on.
00:35:46 And I think that that took him off his game early,
00:35:49 and he never recovered.
00:35:52 You saw the boogeyman.
00:35:53 Drew Holliday is here for one reason, and that's it.
00:35:55 Shut down whoever he's out there guarding.
00:35:57 And Tyler Harrow does not want--
00:36:01 this is one of those--
00:36:03 I've said this all year about the Celtics.
00:36:05 Opposing guards see the Celtics coming up on the schedule,
00:36:09 and they just do not want to deal with Holliday and White
00:36:13 guarding them for 48 minutes.
00:36:14 They just don't, because those are two elite defenders.
00:36:17 I mean, they're talking about Derek White on the broadcast
00:36:20 as a potential defensive player of the year candidate.
00:36:22 That's the type of year he's had.
00:36:23 And Holliday, it goes without saying,
00:36:25 the raps he can put on players.
00:36:27 And Harrow, he can get hot.
00:36:30 I mean, you can't forget about him,
00:36:31 but he's not the type of player that's going to--
00:36:34 I feel like he's not the type of player that's going to outwork
00:36:36 the defender and really get to Holliday.
00:36:39 It's just not going to happen.
00:36:41 This is going to be a tough series for him.
00:36:43 Yeah, and we're not even talking about Jaylen Brown, who's
00:36:47 maybe the most improved defender on his team, a guy that
00:36:50 has played well enough at that end of the floor, where
00:36:52 you can legitimately talk about him.
00:36:54 And we're going through, who are the handful of really good
00:36:57 wing defenders in the NBA?
00:36:58 And Jaylen Brown is probably at the end of that conversation.
00:37:01 The fact that he's even played well enough
00:37:03 to be on the cusp of that conversation
00:37:05 says a lot about his growth.
00:37:07 So Tyler Harrow is going to have a hard time getting going.
00:37:11 And the thing about it is this.
00:37:13 Even if they get him going, who else is going to get going?
00:37:17 Because you can't-- because the way they're built,
00:37:21 one guy is not going to get it done.
00:37:23 And Bam out of Bayou, Bam's not that guy.
00:37:26 Because he's going to get some of that Porzingis play.
00:37:31 And that's a problem.
00:37:34 The Celtics, they just have too many weapons.
00:37:35 And Miami does not have enough defenses for all those weapons.
00:37:39 And that's why, again, I said from the beginning,
00:37:41 as soon as we found out this was a matchup, I expect a sweep.
00:37:43 That doesn't mean every single game is going to be like this.
00:37:46 Because I don't think that's going to be the case.
00:37:47 I think the Celtics, the next couple of games
00:37:49 are going to be much closer.
00:37:50 I think the Celtics are probably going
00:37:52 to win by somewhere between 5 to 12 points.
00:37:56 I don't anticipate they'll be up by 30, 32 points
00:37:59 like they were in this game.
00:38:00 But they're so much better and they're so much deeper
00:38:04 than Miami that even if they're not playing their best
00:38:07 basketball, they're still going to wind up winning.
00:38:10 So it's a matter of when, not if, the Celtics
00:38:14 will close out this series.
00:38:16 Yep.
00:38:16 We did-- we were talking a little bit more--
00:38:19 a little bit more about Caleb Martin.
00:38:21 Here's-- oh, do we have it?
00:38:22 I had it.
00:38:23 I had it and I lost it.
00:38:24 Here's Gomezula specifically on the Martin situation.
00:38:29 Come on, Joe.
00:38:30 Give me something.
00:38:31 --at his head.
00:38:32 What were you thinking as he was going down?
00:38:34 I know Boston was probably collective sigh right there.
00:38:38 Have you spoken to him?
00:38:39 He did look like he hit his head a little bit.
00:38:41 I was just thinking--
00:38:42 I was waiting to see what he was going to do.
00:38:44 I was kind of excited about the whole situation.
00:38:46 So I was just--
00:38:48 I enjoyed watching it.
00:38:50 What about in terms of how he feels?
00:38:53 He's fine.
00:38:53 OK.
00:38:59 He enjoyed that.
00:38:59 He was excited.
00:39:02 Translation, I was hoping somebody
00:39:04 was going to whip Caleb's ass.
00:39:05 Yeah.
00:39:06 I was kind of excited.
00:39:08 You know what--
00:39:09 Joe, I feel like something not great
00:39:14 is going to happen to Caleb Martin in game two.
00:39:16 Caleb Martin is going to go in for a layup
00:39:18 and he's going to find himself in the third row.
00:39:20 Somebody's going to do it.
00:39:21 You don't-- like, Mizzou doesn't want guys shooting
00:39:24 the ball after the whistle's out.
00:39:26 You think he wants guys knocking out, like, playing--
00:39:29 that's why I would be surprised if there's no reaction,
00:39:35 or at least meeting them at their physicality level.
00:39:40 I'm talking about the Celtics meeting the Heat.
00:39:42 Because you've got to know that Mizzou--
00:39:45 this is a guy that does jujitsu before bed.
00:39:49 You know what I mean?
00:39:50 He's not a guy that just wants to sing "Kumbaya"
00:39:53 and move on to the next thing.
00:39:55 I can't-- I just can't see that.
00:39:56 The fact that he said that he was excited about this, Jimmy,
00:39:58 is a little scary to me if I'm--
00:40:00 I believe-- yeah.
00:40:02 That makes me a little uncomfortable.
00:40:04 Because when something like that happens to your best player
00:40:07 and your response is, it made me excited,
00:40:10 you kind of know where he's coming from.
00:40:12 You kind of know what he's thinking at that moment.
00:40:15 And you kind of know that if they didn't respond
00:40:18 accordingly in the game, there's a high probability
00:40:21 they're going to do it in the next game.
00:40:22 So if I'm Caleb Martin, keep the head on the swivel,
00:40:24 young fella.
00:40:25 Keep the head on the swivel.
00:40:28 Yeah.
00:40:29 Joe Mizzoula has been told, we think, by the league
00:40:32 to not go out there and block any shots.
00:40:35 But he has not been told to not do jujitsu on opponents.
00:40:41 So we'll see.
00:40:43 Next time we'll ask him--
00:40:45 next time he's going to put Martin in a chokehold,
00:40:47 and then people ask him after the game, he's like,
00:40:49 I always put people in chokeholds.
00:40:51 Like, I've been doing that all season.
00:40:52 I always do that.
00:40:53 If you don't put me in a chokehold,
00:40:55 they could put you in a chokehold.
00:40:56 I tell my team to do that.
00:40:57 Yeah.
00:40:58 I've always been doing that.
00:40:59 Yeah.
00:41:01 You know, yeah.
00:41:03 We'll see.
00:41:04 We'll see what happens.
00:41:05 And again--
00:41:07 I'm excited that Joe's excited.
00:41:09 That makes me excited.
00:41:10 Because this is playoff basketball.
00:41:12 This is playoff basketball.
00:41:14 Yeah, how do we think Joe did in his first playoff action?
00:41:20 Solid.
00:41:22 Solid?
00:41:24 There was nothing to adjust to, right?
00:41:26 Yeah.
00:41:27 Miami did work for very long, you know?
00:41:30 This is a hard one to judge him on, just because, to your point,
00:41:33 not only was there very little to adjust,
00:41:37 but I mean, your guys played--
00:41:40 I mean, if anything, your guys executed at both ends
00:41:43 of the floor exactly how you wanted them to.
00:41:45 Tatum used his ability as a playmaker
00:41:47 to set other guys up and still wound up
00:41:49 getting his share of points.
00:41:50 Jalen kept the turnovers down, made a lot of, I thought,
00:41:53 really smart basketball plays, basketball decisions,
00:41:56 when to shoot, when to pass, when to just play
00:41:59 solid defense.
00:42:00 Drew Holiday ratcheted up.
00:42:01 I thought he stepped his defensive game up a little bit.
00:42:04 And they needed that to just--
00:42:06 and any thoughts that Miami might have of pulling off
00:42:09 an upset, Drew Holiday's defense,
00:42:11 I think really stifled that.
00:42:12 And Porzingis, as we've talked about many times,
00:42:14 used the cheat code.
00:42:15 And they went to the cheat code early and often in Miami.
00:42:19 First game is kind of a filling out game.
00:42:21 What can they do to at least try to address that?
00:42:24 And I didn't see anything.
00:42:25 I didn't see anything that Miami did
00:42:27 that makes Joe Mizzou or anyone think that, man,
00:42:29 we might have to use Porzingis a little bit differently
00:42:32 in game two, or, man, we've got to tinker with something.
00:42:34 And if you don't have to tinker, why?
00:42:36 Why would you do it, especially if it's working?
00:42:38 That's the thing is, as we say, Sherrod,
00:42:41 it's the whole only the Celtics can beat the Celtics.
00:42:44 This whole small stroke can expose them, blah, blah, blah.
00:42:48 This could happen.
00:42:50 I'm worried about this.
00:42:51 I'm worried about that.
00:42:52 And again, I know we were out of stuff to talk about.
00:42:55 If you're not going to talk about which potential first
00:42:57 round matchup might present the greatest challenge,
00:43:00 you were out of shit to talk about months ago regarding
00:43:03 this team.
00:43:03 But again, you're looking at everything like, OK,
00:43:06 what could mess them up a little?
00:43:07 And really, the answer keeps coming back to, really,
00:43:10 only they can.
00:43:12 If they get into old habits with the isoball,
00:43:17 stopping the ball, slowing things down,
00:43:20 yeah, he's settling for the first shot.
00:43:22 Absolutely, he can.
00:43:23 But I don't think Miami would do--
00:43:25 I don't think-- if the Celtics execute or play a game
00:43:28 like they played today, I don't think Miami has a defense.
00:43:31 They just have to hope more shots fall.
00:43:34 For sure.
00:43:35 Switch things up, vary it quarter by quarter.
00:43:37 But again, I think he tries to, looking at whichever matchups,
00:43:42 can I try a little zone here or whatever?
00:43:44 I could see going zone every single time
00:43:46 Porzingis isn't on the floor.
00:43:48 But again, when you've got good spacing,
00:43:50 and you've got Hauser, and you've got Pritchard out there,
00:43:53 that's not going to work for you there either when those guys
00:43:56 are knocking him down.
00:43:57 It was great watching Pritchard.
00:43:58 When Pritchard hit his first, and then Hauser came in,
00:44:00 bombs away.
00:44:01 That was awesome.
00:44:02 I was like, that's it.
00:44:03 That's the end of it.
00:44:04 That was the perfect timing.
00:44:07 What's that, Trev?
00:44:09 No, I was just going to say, when Pritchard is grabbing
00:44:10 offensive rebounds and putting them back up
00:44:12 like he's playing against Oregon State back in the day,
00:44:15 that's when I'm like, oh, shit.
00:44:16 Miami is in trouble.
00:44:17 If Peyton Pritchard is not just grabbing offensive rebounds,
00:44:20 but he's putting them back up for buckets.
00:44:22 That's a problem if you might--
00:44:24 I thought the Celtics hit a little bit of a lull
00:44:26 like end of the first, second there.
00:44:28 And Hauser came in, hit those three,
00:44:31 stretched that lead back out, and kind of just
00:44:33 kept the Celtics, and kickstarted them again.
00:44:36 That's what you need from your bench union.
00:44:37 We talked about it the last couple of months here.
00:44:41 Has Hauser earned a spot in the playoff rotation?
00:44:43 And we all on the show said, yes, absolutely.
00:44:45 He has.
00:44:46 I actually thought maybe he should
00:44:47 have played a little bit more tonight, ended up with 13
00:44:49 minutes.
00:44:50 Maybe toss him in there in the fourth.
00:44:52 When I think--
00:44:54 Hot guess went at him a little.
00:44:56 Yeah, yeah.
00:44:58 I don't have anything--
00:44:59 You're muted, Sherrod.
00:45:00 I don't have much to say that Mizzoula
00:45:03 could have done better today.
00:45:04 I mean, they won by 20.
00:45:05 I thought he used timeouts when he needed to.
00:45:08 We've certainly seen situations where he hasn't,
00:45:11 and we've all been screaming at the TV that didn't really
00:45:12 have those situations tonight.
00:45:14 You don't want to see the game get as close
00:45:17 as it did in that fourth quarter.
00:45:18 I'm not really going to blame Mizzoula on that.
00:45:20 I just think that was the Celtics doing what they do
00:45:22 sometimes, playing the clock.
00:45:24 I would have probably liked to see him pull the starters
00:45:27 a little bit sooner.
00:45:28 Again, avoid the situation of a dirty heat team doing something
00:45:32 to your start player if he's maybe not
00:45:35 in the game in that situation.
00:45:36 Now, I know that it got close enough where you probably
00:45:40 didn't want to obviously unload the bench,
00:45:44 but that's probably the only thing I could
00:45:46 have done differently is maybe gone to a bench player
00:45:49 or two in that fourth quarter.
00:45:53 I was just going to say, Jimmy, to your point about Hauser,
00:45:56 Jaime was giving him props.
00:45:59 That was a matchup that Miami--
00:46:01 and I guarantee when we go to game two,
00:46:03 when they're on the floor together,
00:46:04 they are going to iso that matchup,
00:46:06 because it was one that I thought
00:46:07 they had some success with.
00:46:09 So I do worry about that.
00:46:10 And that's why, to me, it's important
00:46:11 when Sam gets on the floor.
00:46:13 Sam doesn't really have time to just kind of warm up
00:46:15 and get going.
00:46:15 He needs to come in and start knocking down shots early
00:46:19 and often, just so that that can buffer, to some extent,
00:46:23 what's going to happen at the other end of the floor.
00:46:25 So 4-6 for him.
00:46:26 I mean, he did his job, Sherrod, right?
00:46:28 4-6 from three.
00:46:29 Absolutely.
00:46:29 And to see that spark they needed.
00:46:31 I mean, he was a plus tonight.
00:46:32 He was a plus five.
00:46:33 But I mean, again, I think a lot of that
00:46:35 had to do with the fact that he just didn't get a lot of burn.
00:46:38 And that's obviously in that second half there.
00:46:40 But I think he was--
00:46:42 we saw-- we were wondering what the playoff rotation was going
00:46:45 to look like, Sherrod.
00:46:46 This is pretty much it, right?
00:46:48 I mean, they went eight deep tonight.
00:46:50 I kind of see that.
00:46:51 And moving forward, you might get a--
00:46:54 obviously, it's a little bit matchup-based,
00:46:56 depending on who they'll play in the second round,
00:46:58 knock on wood.
00:46:59 But this is kind of it.
00:47:00 Pritchard got his 24 minutes, which is right
00:47:02 around what he's been doing.
00:47:04 And Warford gave you 10-7 tonight, which I think is--
00:47:08 and he was, in that second half, Warford had some big plays.
00:47:12 And he was physical on the paint, grabbed some big boards,
00:47:15 had a nice little turnaround hook.
00:47:18 So he's giving you that bench production that you need.
00:47:22 And along with Pritchard and Hauser,
00:47:23 I think this team is eight deep.
00:47:25 And compare that to any other team in this playoff's
00:47:29 eight-man rotation, it's hard to find a better one.
00:47:33 Yeah.
00:47:34 I think-- I was just going to say,
00:47:36 I think the minutes that we saw Hauser get
00:47:38 and the minutes that we saw Pritchard get,
00:47:39 I would not be surprised if we see those flip-flop, where
00:47:43 Hauser might play 20 or so minutes
00:47:45 and Pritchard might be down to 15, just depending on
00:47:47 the opponent and how the game goes.
00:47:49 But this was-- yeah, I don't know
00:47:51 if they're going to deviate much from what we saw tonight
00:47:53 in terms of rotation.
00:47:54 I don't know if there's any reason why they would want to.
00:47:58 Maybe you start tailing them in game, too.
00:48:00 Just get a little--
00:48:01 push around a few people, get them in and out.
00:48:04 Again, it's very much the hockey mentality, right?
00:48:07 Like, you change out that first liner--
00:48:10 Show on, Thor, and come on your show, Thor.
00:48:12 Where you at?
00:48:13 Where you at?
00:48:14 You tweak the fast skating fourth liner for the kind of--
00:48:19 like I said, I made the reference earlier.
00:48:21 You're Pat Maroon in there.
00:48:23 And you're like, OK, I'm here just in case.
00:48:26 Could you see X-Man coming in and a little bit
00:48:28 of frontier justice here?
00:48:30 Yeah, maybe.
00:48:31 Maybe.
00:48:32 Here's Caleb Martin reacting to his totally not dirty,
00:48:35 not intentional, not instructed play.
00:48:38 We'll see.
00:48:38 I have no idea what he said, but here he is.
00:48:40 [INAUDIBLE]
00:48:44 Bum.
00:48:45 Nothing.
00:48:45 I mean, he's just hard foul.
00:48:48 I'm trying to take it for his teammate.
00:48:49 I don't know.
00:48:51 I try to go help him up.
00:48:53 Obviously, I just heard him hit the floor.
00:48:56 I didn't know.
00:48:57 Obviously, I know I hit him pretty hard.
00:48:59 But momentum was carrying me.
00:49:01 I think I got pushed into that direction.
00:49:03 But hard foul.
00:49:05 I'm trying to pick him up.
00:49:06 That's just what it is.
00:49:07 Jimmy on the floor, I'd have done the same thing, I'm sure.
00:49:10 So it's just what it is.
00:49:14 Just what it is.
00:49:16 It's what it is.
00:49:16 They were talking about Jalen slapping his hand away,
00:49:19 I guess.
00:49:20 But yeah, he's looking.
00:49:22 That's all he did.
00:49:23 He's looking.
00:49:23 That's all he did.
00:49:24 I don't know.
00:49:25 Maybe I'll watch it again and see if he actually did.
00:49:28 If he's saying he got pushed into Tatum,
00:49:31 I don't know if that's true.
00:49:32 I think he kind of gave him a little hip check.
00:49:37 So league will take a look.
00:49:40 League will take a look.
00:49:41 But I don't think that's the end of it.
00:49:44 I really don't.
00:49:44 No, I don't either.
00:49:46 Yeah.
00:49:48 Yeah, speaking of which, a lot of commentary
00:49:51 here in terms of the dirtiness of Miami,
00:49:53 whether or not that was called for.
00:49:56 Whether he--
00:49:57 What was called for?
00:49:59 Whether or not that was instructed to do so.
00:50:02 Another thing that people have taken issue with
00:50:05 is Bam Adebayo, who many in the chat
00:50:07 believe has never set a legal screen in his life.
00:50:11 And Derek White might have been on the receiving end of one
00:50:15 of those.
00:50:15 And White talking about it in the locker room,
00:50:18 Bobby Manning in there, talking to Derek about that,
00:50:22 and then what happened late in the game.
00:50:25 Derek, first off, how are you feeling?
00:50:26 It looked like you took a big hit at one point
00:50:28 going around a Bam screen there.
00:50:30 How do you come out of that?
00:50:31 Yeah, I'll be all right.
00:50:35 I'll be all right.
00:50:36 What do you think?
00:50:37 At the end of the game, that little skirmish,
00:50:39 Jason after the foul, just sort of darts down the other way,
00:50:42 Jalen getting into it a little bit there.
00:50:43 What was just sort of your guys' reaction at that point?
00:50:45 Bobby, you the only one there today?
00:50:46 Yeah.
00:50:47 I mean, first, it's good to see JT's good.
00:50:49 He only sends us his questions.
00:50:52 KP and JB guys back in.
00:50:56 You got to love that.
00:50:57 That's as fiery as Derek White gets right there.
00:51:02 That's right.
00:51:03 You're being--
00:51:05 I'm not getting fined.
00:51:06 I will not say anything that's going to get me fined.
00:51:08 I got kids.
00:51:10 Come on now.
00:51:11 You are not taking away from their Christmas time.
00:51:13 Yeah, exactly.
00:51:15 I want that Drew holiday money.
00:51:17 That's what I want.
00:51:18 I want a holiday.
00:51:19 You want a holiday.
00:51:20 No.
00:51:21 I mean, I think if the game were a little bit tighter,
00:51:27 I think there might be a little bit more anger and vitriol
00:51:30 on the Celtics' part.
00:51:31 But it's just like, oh, look, they're trying to be physical.
00:51:34 They're down big.
00:51:37 Let's move on.
00:51:38 I want to hear Jalen Brown.
00:51:38 I really want to hear what Jalen Brown has to say about it
00:51:40 since he obviously had--
00:51:42 Well, he was the one that responded right.
00:51:43 He was the one that actually did some semblance
00:51:45 of a retaliation in response to it.
00:51:47 But I just-- Miami, it's just desperation, man.
00:51:51 I mean, they know the same thing that we do,
00:51:54 that they should not win a game in this series.
00:51:58 They're not deep enough.
00:51:59 They're not talented enough.
00:52:00 And as much as we love Spolster and all the things
00:52:03 that he's doing, his ability to maximize the most
00:52:06 with whatever he's given, he doesn't have
00:52:09 Dindley Scott to work with.
00:52:10 This is not a good team.
00:52:12 This is not a team that should be
00:52:13 able to knock off the top seed.
00:52:16 Oh, damn.
00:52:17 Yeah, Thanasis Manning--
00:52:22 Thanasis Manning.
00:52:23 Thanasis Manning ends careers.
00:52:25 That's a fact.
00:52:27 I don't think Martin's doing that if Thanasis Manning
00:52:30 is on the bench because he knows what we need to care for him.
00:52:34 No.
00:52:35 He's like an attack dog.
00:52:38 Yeah.
00:52:40 So I am curious.
00:52:42 We didn't get Sherrod's take on it.
00:52:45 And I don't know that it mattered.
00:52:48 But we talked about it briefly.
00:52:52 It always matters to get Sherrod's take, first of all.
00:52:55 Sherrod, you got blurry all of a sudden.
00:52:56 I don't know what happened to you.
00:52:58 I don't know why.
00:52:59 You blurred out.
00:53:00 All right.
00:53:01 Oh, man, he's gone.
00:53:03 What were you going to ask him?
00:53:05 Oh, he's back.
00:53:06 I was going to ask him whether or not the fourth quarter
00:53:08 bothered him at all.
00:53:09 Because it was a, I don't want to care,
00:53:13 and I don't think I do care.
00:53:15 And I think anybody's going to get bored up 30.
00:53:19 And they did their work.
00:53:21 They got their 30-point lead.
00:53:22 This game was over.
00:53:24 But you brought the starters out to do a job.
00:53:25 And that job was, play long enough
00:53:28 and maintain this lead so you don't have
00:53:31 to play the rest of the game.
00:53:32 And they kind of screwed themselves by not playing,
00:53:34 which is really more--
00:53:36 it hurts them than anything.
00:53:37 But you did have Tatum hitting the deck late
00:53:40 in a meaningless sequence and things
00:53:43 that you just want to avoid.
00:53:44 At that point, you wanted it to be Geno time
00:53:46 for the last nine minutes.
00:53:47 So yeah, they stopped playing completely.
00:53:50 They stopped running any semblance.
00:53:52 They were walking up and down the court.
00:53:55 And it got annoyingly close, but you never
00:53:58 felt that it was in true jeopardy.
00:54:01 Does it bother you at all that that happened?
00:54:05 Well, it bothers me, but only to the extent
00:54:07 that they just didn't seal the--
00:54:10 would have been a perfect game.
00:54:11 I mean, they played-- I mean, it's a 40-minute game.
00:54:13 And they probably played about 40, 41 really good minutes.
00:54:17 And normally, that's going to be enough to win.
00:54:20 And certainly for them, it was enough to win by 20.
00:54:22 But yeah, I would have liked them to see a little bit more
00:54:24 points in that stretch.
00:54:26 But again, I understand why Joe Mazzullo is playing it really
00:54:30 tight to the vest and just going with those top eight,
00:54:32 because you want to make sure that you have your best
00:54:35 players on the floor every single minute of the game.
00:54:39 And there's a major drop-off from your top eight
00:54:42 to the 9, 10, 11, 12 guys.
00:54:45 Joe knows that.
00:54:46 And so I don't think we're going to see
00:54:49 a lot different Celtics team in late-game situations like this.
00:54:53 If they're up by 25, 30 points, you're
00:54:55 still going to see those guys out there, probably
00:54:57 to maybe the four-minute mark, if that, just to make sure
00:55:02 that they give this Miami Heat team no hope.
00:55:04 And Miami, if they want to be giddy because they
00:55:08 were able to trim a 32-point deficit down to a 20-point
00:55:11 loss, they're more than welcome to jump on that mantle
00:55:15 and ride that into game two.
00:55:16 But it's not going to matter.
00:55:18 Fool's gold, yeah.
00:55:20 Yeah, the Celtics showed you when the game was actually
00:55:23 mattering, when the game had something
00:55:25 at stake in the first, second, and third quarter, what
00:55:27 happened?
00:55:28 You got your asses kicked.
00:55:30 You got kicked on the boards, three-point shooting,
00:55:32 post-ups, transition.
00:55:34 You name it, the Celtics were the better team.
00:55:37 And for Miami, again, it is, John.
00:55:41 It's fool's gold.
00:55:41 If you think that what happened in the fourth quarter is somehow
00:55:44 going to all of a sudden be just the catalyst you need
00:55:46 to get back, because you don't have the horses to run
00:55:49 this race beyond four games.
00:55:52 Yeah.
00:55:53 I want to look at a couple of things
00:55:54 beyond and while we're waiting for--
00:55:56 see if Bobby and/or Joe Sway get on here.
00:56:01 But a couple of stats that I think are really important
00:56:07 that go beyond just the shots, OK?
00:56:11 And you're always going to have higher assist numbers
00:56:13 when the shots are falling.
00:56:14 And yeah, maybe it was--
00:56:17 Joe loves to get that three-point number up,
00:56:20 up around 40.
00:56:21 I mean, he took 49, just the amount
00:56:23 that they took over the heat.
00:56:24 He's always going to like that.
00:56:26 But a couple of stats I loved, only three first-half turnovers
00:56:30 was outstanding.
00:56:32 That's one area where you know, and especially
00:56:34 in the playoffs where the Celtics have had those issues.
00:56:37 And it always comes down to the more ISO ball
00:56:39 and the more people dribble, particularly Brown and Tatum,
00:56:42 the more they're putting the ball on the ground,
00:56:44 the more you're getting those live ball turnovers,
00:56:47 the more that results in transition buckets.
00:56:48 That did not happen in this game at all.
00:56:50 And then the offensive rebounding.
00:56:52 We've seen the Celtics get beat up on the offensive glass.
00:56:55 Only gave up five today.
00:56:56 They had 10 of their own.
00:56:58 Did not lose the rebounding battle in this game,
00:57:01 which is great.
00:57:01 Miami's not boasting a lot of size here,
00:57:04 so it's not a team you're worried
00:57:05 is going to punk you there.
00:57:06 But both of those things, you talk about how can you
00:57:09 play a clean game and still lose,
00:57:12 or how can you shoot the ball well and lose?
00:57:14 The high turnovers and getting murdered on the boards.
00:57:16 Those two things aren't happening.
00:57:18 They can survive.
00:57:19 They could have survived a mediocre
00:57:20 to a below-average shooting game and still won this one.
00:57:24 Because they're not giving away--
00:57:26 they weren't giving away freebies.
00:57:28 No freebies at all.
00:57:29 No transition, no turnovers, no points off turnovers,
00:57:33 and nothing off the offensive glass.
00:57:36 And that's the problem for Miami.
00:57:38 And it just, again, it reinforces
00:57:39 what we've been saying all along,
00:57:40 that the Celtics' biggest competitor in this series
00:57:42 is the Celtics.
00:57:44 If they're going to lose games, it's
00:57:45 going to be more so because of something
00:57:47 that they did not do that had very little, if anything,
00:57:49 to do with the heat than it is the heat all of a sudden
00:57:52 coming up with this magical, mystical strategy that
00:57:56 just confines Tatum and Brown and Derek
00:57:59 White and Al Horford and Drew Holiday.
00:58:01 That's not going to happen.
00:58:03 And the Celtics, I think it goes back to just, frankly,
00:58:06 their focus.
00:58:07 This is a different kind of locked-in Celtics team
00:58:10 than we've seen in the past.
00:58:12 And I think a lot of it has to do with the fact
00:58:14 that they came so close a year ago.
00:58:16 And obviously, they've not got to talk about that.
00:58:18 But you can tell just the level of focus
00:58:20 has a lot to do with missed opportunities in the past
00:58:22 and not wanting to repeat that.
00:58:24 Yeah.
00:58:24 I'll try to-- go ahead, Jimmy.
00:58:26 I was going to say, you know what, Sherrod?
00:58:28 And the other thing is this.
00:58:29 For the last, what, month, we've just
00:58:31 been saying, which team's going to show up game one
00:58:35 in the playoffs?
00:58:36 Because there's been about two months' worth of games
00:58:38 that mean nothing.
00:58:39 They locked up the one seed in the East.
00:58:42 Then they locked up the one seed in the NBA.
00:58:44 And guys were, at that point, in and out of the lineups,
00:58:48 resting guys here and there.
00:58:51 They'd lose one, and you'd say, well, does it matter?
00:58:53 It only matters in the playoffs when the slate is
00:58:56 wiped clean for every team.
00:58:57 It means just as much for every team.
00:58:59 And I think it should be comforting for Celtics fans
00:59:03 that watch today to say, OK, this team
00:59:06 looks a hell of a lot like the regular season team we saw.
00:59:09 And the way that they played, a dominating performance,
00:59:12 a 20-point win.
00:59:13 So I think a lot of those fears of,
00:59:16 who are we going to see game one of the playoffs
00:59:19 when the last two months of basketball
00:59:21 really hasn't mattered much to these guys?
00:59:22 Are they going to be able to ratchet up the intensity
00:59:25 and be able to match the other team's intensity?
00:59:27 Like a Heat team that--
00:59:28 let's be honest, yeah, they are missing
00:59:30 two of their really important guys,
00:59:32 Butler obviously being the main one there.
00:59:34 And so talent's always going to be a huge part of that.
00:59:37 But you still have to show up.
00:59:38 It's the NBA, and we've seen it.
00:59:40 If you don't show up, you will get beat.
00:59:43 And so I think that they quelled a lot of concerns
00:59:47 by showing up today and playing the way they did.
00:59:51 Couple things I think it's worth talking about.
00:59:53 How does this-- how can it flip, right?
00:59:55 How can you see what you saw here?
00:59:57 We've had game one performances in the past
00:59:59 where you're like, it's over.
01:00:01 This other team can't compete.
01:00:02 And then you see a totally different setup
01:00:04 the next day, the next game, and things look totally different.
01:00:08 You're not really sure why.
01:00:09 I think sometimes it's just as easy as-- just as simple
01:00:12 as looking at the shots falling.
01:00:13 But you want to talk about a couple other places
01:00:15 Celtics didn't thrive.
01:00:17 Points in the paint.
01:00:19 They didn't get a lot.
01:00:20 Miami did.
01:00:23 And they had to because their threes weren't falling.
01:00:25 But they did get into the paint.
01:00:27 You had Jaquez getting in there when he wanted to fairly
01:00:31 regularly, I thought, set a pretty good tone for them.
01:00:34 44-24 points in the paint.
01:00:38 Celtics also-- and again, Miami didn't get a ton in transition.
01:00:41 The Celtics only had six fast break points.
01:00:43 So Celtics played a pretty slow, methodical game
01:00:47 where they played and took their shots from the outside,
01:00:50 worked the ball, worked it in the half court.
01:00:53 You'd still like to see a teeny bit more pace than what
01:00:57 they played with today.
01:00:58 I would like to see them press it a little bit more.
01:01:01 Even off misses, they wouldn't do it.
01:01:03 And oftentimes, you see--
01:01:04 even if the guard, whoever's got the ball,
01:01:06 is working it up the floor, oftentimes you see Tatum kind
01:01:10 of like, well, I'll get there, and we'll get into our sets,
01:01:12 and we'll do our thing.
01:01:13 I'd still like to see them push it a little bit more
01:01:15 because you do want to get out.
01:01:17 You do want to get running.
01:01:18 You do want to get some easier buckets.
01:01:20 I want to see a little bit more there as well.
01:01:24 But again, being nitpicky here, it's just when you show up
01:01:28 and the next game is totally different than the first game
01:01:33 and you wonder why, these could be some of the things
01:01:36 that factor in.
01:01:36 So I don't want them to get complacent and just rely
01:01:39 entirely on a three-point shot.
01:01:41 You want to see them continue to pressure Miami.
01:01:43 You want to see them get into the paint a little bit.
01:01:45 You want to see them run.
01:01:46 You want to see them get some more points, drive and kick.
01:01:49 A lot of this stuff was worked around the perimeter
01:01:52 with patience or given it to somebody at the elbow,
01:01:56 waiting for the double to come, swing, swing, swing.
01:01:58 I-- did it feel like there was a lot of drive and kick today?
01:02:02 Maybe not as much as I'm used to seeing.
01:02:04 I'd like to-- I might have to go back and watch it again.
01:02:06 But I don't think they tried desperately to attack.
01:02:09 They were just looking for pretty much the best
01:02:12 three that they could get or the best open look.
01:02:15 I didn't think they forced it.
01:02:17 I think they did--
01:02:18 Wasn't forced at all.
01:02:18 I thought they played with tremendous patience.
01:02:20 But when they were met with--
01:02:22 when they were met in the paint or--
01:02:25 that's, again, John, I think why some of the turnovers
01:02:28 were lower too is because they just passed it.
01:02:31 They did pass it back out.
01:02:32 I saw them swinging the ball.
01:02:33 They got a lot of open looks tonight.
01:02:35 I mean, not all of them fell, but they still shot 45%
01:02:37 from three.
01:02:38 That is the concern, though, because in this team,
01:02:39 we've seen it.
01:02:40 When the threes don't fall--
01:02:41 I mean, that sounds very simple.
01:02:42 When the threes don't fall, are they
01:02:44 able to adjust their offensive style and be successful still?
01:02:49 Because if they just--
01:02:50 And they don't do this.
01:02:51 This is who they are.
01:02:52 This is how they play.
01:02:53 This is how they've been successful.
01:02:55 Right, but when they don't, we see what happens.
01:02:57 And that's the scary thing about the Heat, right,
01:02:59 is that the Heat or Spolster can try
01:03:02 to make you do the thing you don't want to do.
01:03:04 And that's really their only chance because they're not--
01:03:06 they don't have enough talent to just beat you going
01:03:09 their best versus your best.
01:03:11 They need to basically put you in an uncomfortable position,
01:03:14 a place you don't want to be, and then attack that way.
01:03:16 So the Celtics, on the opposite end,
01:03:19 that's where Mazzoula and his assistant coaching staff
01:03:22 need to make their adjustments.
01:03:24 But I think, to your point, John, they didn't--
01:03:28 I will say they did get to the line a lot more than the Heat.
01:03:31 If you're a Heat fan, you're saying,
01:03:31 how did we only get to the line six times?
01:03:33 You need to get to the line more.
01:03:34 You need to be more aggressive in that sense.
01:03:36 So yeah, they scored more in the paint,
01:03:37 but the Celtics weren't hacking them or anything like that.
01:03:41 So take that as you will.
01:03:44 Yeah.
01:03:45 No, they were.
01:03:46 Again, it was a near perfect game for the first three
01:03:48 quarters, as we talked about.
01:03:49 They did everything right, played
01:03:51 with tremendous patience, worked the ball, got great looks.
01:03:55 They went down.
01:03:55 That was it.
01:03:57 But not a lot to complain about.
01:04:00 You're just wondering if it's one of those--
01:04:02 if the next game, the shots don't
01:04:03 fall at the same clips in Miami's start two.
01:04:07 But again, it's a seven game series.
01:04:09 This isn't-- they don't have the horses.
01:04:11 The only match up here you're worried about
01:04:13 is Spolstro, right?
01:04:14 Like, there's nothing-- there's nothing on the other side
01:04:17 there, certainly without Butler, that you're worried at all,
01:04:20 that the Celtics--
01:04:21 that's going to possibly knock the Celtics off their path
01:04:27 here.
01:04:27 And again, it should be four games,
01:04:30 and that would be nice.
01:04:31 And get your rest and get moving.
01:04:35 Again, you can't have a better path
01:04:36 than the Celtics have right now.
01:04:37 Between the-- I mean, it's almost embarrassing.
01:04:40 Between the injuries everywhere and the Cleveland-Orlando
01:04:45 second round match up, where you might get that,
01:04:50 quick work of this team is what you want to have happen here.
01:04:52 So keep the foot on the gas.
01:04:54 Bobby Manning setting up.
01:04:55 We'll get Bobby's take a little bit before we wrap things
01:04:58 up here.
01:04:59 As soon as he's ready, Bobby, give me a thumbs up.
01:05:01 We'll bring you on here.
01:05:03 Oh, yeah.
01:05:04 Yes, no, maybe so.
01:05:06 Playoff Bobby, give us a thumbs up.
01:05:08 I just saw a film.
01:05:09 What's up, Bobby?
01:05:10 You guys got me?
01:05:11 We got you.
01:05:12 What's your-- what are your takeaways?
01:05:14 Are you part of the--
01:05:15 he looks like he's part of the wall.
01:05:18 Yeah, I'm blending in.
01:05:19 Blending in, dude.
01:05:21 Anyways, go on.
01:05:22 I like the camo.
01:05:24 I like this game.
01:05:25 I didn't love it at first.
01:05:26 I didn't love the runs they gave up throughout.
01:05:30 15 and 1/2 times felt too small for how well they shot.
01:05:33 And overall, I felt like the Heat stayed within arm's length
01:05:36 with their physicality and rebounding at times
01:05:39 and aggressiveness going to the basket.
01:05:41 Looked like the bench wasn't going to work early.
01:05:43 They stay in the game and end up hitting their shots, which
01:05:46 I think was important, given the messaging Joe's had on trusting
01:05:49 them and keeping them involved.
01:05:50 And Jason Tatum had an up and down game, too,
01:05:54 despite the triple-double.
01:05:55 But I do like his focus on playmaking in a game like this.
01:05:59 So you don't love this performance.
01:06:01 I think it's a kind of game that can keep the Heat engaged
01:06:06 and hopeful that they're capable of competing in the series,
01:06:10 despite being bent down by 30 and losing this one by 20,
01:06:12 if you can believe it or not.
01:06:14 But I do feel like Miami competed well.
01:06:16 And John, me and you were the only ones who gave them
01:06:18 much of a fighting chance in this series.
01:06:20 And I do think today showed you have to take them seriously.
01:06:24 Even when you go up by 20, 30, they're
01:06:26 never going to stop playing.
01:06:27 And I know runs happen and shots fall.
01:06:31 And that's basically what happened in the second
01:06:33 and fourth quarters there.
01:06:34 But you have to, I think, sustain those runs a little bit
01:06:40 better to not give Miami those stretches to keep them
01:06:44 in the game.
01:06:45 They got this throughout this one, I felt like.
01:06:47 John, you're muted.
01:06:52 [INTERPOSING VOICES]
01:06:53 Thanks, my dog.
01:06:56 Thanks, my dog.
01:06:58 I wasn't going to say it.
01:06:59 What's up?
01:07:00 What's up, Josue?
01:07:00 Josue.
01:07:01 I thought that was me.
01:07:06 I thought I couldn't hear John.
01:07:07 Oh, no, it's not you.
01:07:09 No, but we can hear you, Josue.
01:07:10 And we'd love to hear your take on what the hell just happened.
01:07:14 Yeah, I mean, look, Bob.
01:07:16 I thought the things that Bobby just said
01:07:17 were pretty on point.
01:07:18 I just think when the Celtics are making franchise
01:07:22 history for the most three quarters made in the playoff
01:07:24 game, it's a good thing when you look back on it.
01:07:28 But you wonder how many times you
01:07:30 could pull this off throughout a quarter.
01:07:31 That's a seven series.
01:07:32 And look, I got to win this series in five games.
01:07:35 But I don't think it's going to be looking like this
01:07:38 all the whole time.
01:07:40 I think they're good for one of these blowout games,
01:07:43 one of these blowout wins, I should say.
01:07:45 And I thought that today would be that matchup.
01:07:47 But yeah, I just think the Miami Heat,
01:07:49 I mean, the way they were able to get rid of the deficit
01:07:52 as quickly as other teams would, especially considering
01:07:57 they're short-handed.
01:07:58 They'll have someone like Jimmy, who
01:07:59 you can pick on matchup-wise and take advantage of that.
01:08:03 Tyler Herro, maybe he has one of those games,
01:08:05 a couple of those games in the series where he really dominates.
01:08:07 But today just wasn't that game for him.
01:08:09 I think it's going to take them a bit to adjust.
01:08:12 But they're pretty comfortable out there
01:08:14 in terms of just withstanding those huge runs by the Celtics
01:08:17 and fighting right back.
01:08:18 They're not scared.
01:08:19 They never got it down to three points or whatever.
01:08:22 It was never a one possession game.
01:08:23 But before halftime, it was a two possession game.
01:08:26 And it happened in a hurry.
01:08:27 And I think that's something that's going to repeat itself
01:08:30 throughout this series.
01:08:31 Yes, the Celtics are the dominant team.
01:08:33 But the Heat have enough firepower
01:08:37 to come back from those deficits and hang around a bit.
01:08:40 Can they close out a game?
01:08:41 I still think they have one, maybe two in them.
01:08:44 But I mean, today didn't make me feel any better
01:08:46 about my prediction.
01:08:48 I still have something from five.
01:08:49 But it's not going to look like this every game.
01:08:54 Yeah, and you'd be OK with, what, 10-0, 8-2?
01:08:57 Small runs like that.
01:08:58 But the Heat went on a couple big ones,
01:09:00 especially that fourth quarter one that cut it from 31 to 14
01:09:03 in seven minutes.
01:09:05 The opening stretch there, 17 to 2,
01:09:08 you feel like it's going to be a runaway game.
01:09:10 And you're like, uh-oh, is this the sweep?
01:09:12 Is this the runaway dominance that many predicted
01:09:14 going into this series?
01:09:15 But the Heat get right back even after that.
01:09:17 I forget what the run was exactly after that.
01:09:19 But they pull right within five by the end of the quarter.
01:09:22 I don't know.
01:09:23 I don't get that.
01:09:24 That wasn't my vibe at all.
01:09:25 I thought runs happen.
01:09:28 There were a couple of dips.
01:09:29 Big runs?
01:09:30 In almost every case, yeah.
01:09:34 I mean, in almost every case, Celtics stamped it out quick.
01:09:38 It would go 12 back to 17 or 18.
01:09:41 And then the third quarter was just--
01:09:43 I never at all--
01:09:44 with the exception of a teeny bit of a dip
01:09:48 there in the first quarter, and then just stopping playing
01:09:53 there for a minute or so, two minutes in the second quarter,
01:09:57 there wasn't much else I was worried about.
01:10:00 Even in that fourth quarter when the Heat came back,
01:10:03 White was big for them there.
01:10:05 He had a big, big three.
01:10:06 I mean, you had Horford chipping in, too.
01:10:08 It did feel like--
01:10:09 I never felt remotely close to the Celtics losing this game.
01:10:14 It was--
01:10:15 No, never, ever, ever, ever.
01:10:16 Some bits of frustrating stretches.
01:10:18 But I mean, what are we talking about here?
01:10:19 They won by 20.
01:10:20 They were up by 30-plus.
01:10:22 You hit 53s in this game.
01:10:25 So what happens when you don't do that?
01:10:26 That's what we're looking at here.
01:10:28 And I do like the Heat's ability in this game
01:10:30 to attack mismatches, to get to the rim at times.
01:10:33 I thought Hawkins was fantastic.
01:10:35 And Bam did what he could to produce offense,
01:10:37 even hitting a three at a certain point.
01:10:39 So I'm just looking at them, like I have from the start,
01:10:41 and saying, they can stay with you in these games.
01:10:44 And they're going to.
01:10:45 They're not going to give up in any of these games.
01:10:48 So you can't, on the other side, sit back
01:10:50 with a 25-point lead, even, and just say, we're done.
01:10:53 And that's what they did in the fourth quarter, too,
01:10:55 a little bit.
01:10:55 I know Dolan Wright comes out and hits 5-3s,
01:10:57 which you're not expecting.
01:10:59 And some other guys got hot there at different points.
01:11:01 Jovic had a better game than I expected.
01:11:03 And Heisman never really got going too much,
01:11:05 which they're going to need on that side.
01:11:07 But isn't this more than what you expected from that team?
01:11:11 Down Butler, down Mercier.
01:11:14 I mean, they are just depleted completely of talent there.
01:11:17 And I thought they hung in this game pretty well,
01:11:19 by losing by 20.
01:11:21 I don't think they hung in this game.
01:11:22 Not at all.
01:11:23 I think they made some runs probably.
01:11:24 They scored 94 points, well below the average.
01:11:27 They lost by 20.
01:11:28 And I think the Celics were playing with their food
01:11:30 a little bit in this one.
01:11:32 We've seen them do a bunch of times in the regular season.
01:11:35 Because they go over the 35.
01:11:37 What are they supposed to do?
01:11:38 They definitely punched back, though.
01:11:39 I think that's what Bobby's trying to say.
01:11:40 Really?
01:11:41 If I'm Miami, I'm demoralized.
01:11:43 They punched this a little--
01:11:44 they punched back a little bit.
01:11:45 Oh my god.
01:11:46 If I'm Miami, I'm like, what are we going to do here?
01:11:50 Google it, John.
01:11:51 You sure?
01:11:51 Demoralized?
01:11:52 What could they have done better?
01:11:54 What could Miami have done better?
01:11:55 They lost by 20.
01:11:56 I feel like we watched two totally different games.
01:11:59 I don't have--
01:11:59 But John, we're grading on a scale.
01:12:01 One team has Jovic and--
01:12:03 I know, but I don't have an--
01:12:05 --Barney starting right up.
01:12:06 Why are we grading on a scale?
01:12:08 --not at any point did I--
01:12:09 Because one team's 64 win, best team in the league, Jimmy.
01:12:12 And the other team is starting a rookie and--
01:12:15 I know.
01:12:15 --I think second year guys in the G League all ask you.
01:12:17 I'm not concerned about anything.
01:12:19 I'm just telling you what happened.
01:12:20 Yeah, man.
01:12:21 No one's that concerned.
01:12:24 No, I just-- watching this game did not feel to me like, well,
01:12:27 Celtics let--
01:12:29 You didn't feel like this game was competitive.
01:12:31 Not in any way competitive.
01:12:33 In spurts, it was.
01:12:33 So you switching to sweep, John?
01:12:34 I mean, you were with me saying this was going to be six games.
01:12:36 Yeah, I'm just messing around.
01:12:38 I just do that to get people going.
01:12:40 I'm saying, Bobby, the reason I said
01:12:42 that the Heat might take a game or two
01:12:44 and the Celtics might get complacent, get comfortable,
01:12:47 sit back, think all of it--
01:12:48 I hated the idea of all the threes falling in game one
01:12:52 sort of game because that might--
01:12:54 That's what I mean.
01:12:55 I didn't want that.
01:12:56 But throughout this game, no, because the spot
01:13:00 to have gotten comfortable would have been the third quarter
01:13:02 with a 15-point lead.
01:13:03 And that's where they stood on their business.
01:13:06 They got serious there.
01:13:07 And they're like, let me show you everything we can do now.
01:13:10 And they just put the hammer down.
01:13:12 So yeah, I mean, 15-point lead that you
01:13:16 allowed them to creep back to 15 at the end of the half
01:13:20 and then just absolutely just stomping on them in the third,
01:13:23 to me, this was a clinical win by the Celtics.
01:13:27 Not at any point in time did I feel like the Heat remotely
01:13:30 threatened, never at any point.
01:13:32 They mostly took care of the little things in this one
01:13:35 the Celtics did.
01:13:35 I think Heat only had five offensive rebounds, which
01:13:38 was a key shot.
01:13:39 And I talked about going in.
01:13:41 You limited some of their roll, guys.
01:13:42 I think you kept the ball in Hakas' and Bam's hands
01:13:45 for quite a bit of this game and here.
01:13:47 And dared them to beat you at times.
01:13:49 And they made shots at different points during their run.
01:13:52 So that's going to happen.
01:13:53 That was Joe's message after, too.
01:13:54 He felt like there were four or five minutes where they didn't
01:13:57 manage the game well.
01:13:58 But otherwise, they did there.
01:14:00 And I certainly love the way they
01:14:01 handled some of the physicality, getting your--
01:14:04 get under your skin, the Bam screen,
01:14:06 knocking White down, and the tussle at the end there.
01:14:09 I loved Tatum actually just shooting over
01:14:11 to the other side while Brown and Porzingis
01:14:13 handled things there.
01:14:14 Knocked down the free throws, put the game away.
01:14:16 They pretty much handled business here.
01:14:19 And that's how Porzingis described it, too,
01:14:21 when someone asked him about him and Bam's matchup.
01:14:23 He said, this isn't personal.
01:14:24 This isn't me versus him.
01:14:26 This is just business.
01:14:27 And they're taking care of business
01:14:29 here in a game like this.
01:14:30 You look at a 20-point game, you make your threes.
01:14:34 Some guys who started slow heated up as the game went on.
01:14:37 So I think mentality-wise, there's
01:14:39 a lot to like out of this game from the Celtics standpoint.
01:14:41 But when Tatum was on the floor, this is what, a three-point
01:14:45 game?
01:14:46 Here's that KP soundbite, since you mentioned it.
01:14:49 We were talking about that.
01:14:50 Here you go.
01:14:51 Matchup against Bam personally.
01:14:54 No, this is business.
01:14:55 This is not-- of course, we want to stop him as much as possible.
01:14:59 But understanding, they're going to play through him
01:15:02 all the time.
01:15:02 He's going to be involved in all the situations.
01:15:05 This is-- I don't care about him.
01:15:07 I don't care about our team and what we're trying to achieve.
01:15:10 I don't care about that, Mo.
01:15:11 And this is not one-on-one me against Bam.
01:15:14 This is Celtics against Heat.
01:15:15 So we'll make sure that's our focus.
01:15:21 That's what I'm talking about.
01:15:22 That's what I'm talking about.
01:15:23 This is business.
01:15:24 And he's taking it very, very personal.
01:15:26 Yeah.
01:15:26 I love that.
01:15:28 That had a certain La Familia godfather feel to it.
01:15:31 Like, nah, this is just business.
01:15:33 This is business.
01:15:35 I don't know him.
01:15:36 I love I don't care about him because that's classic.
01:15:39 Like, that's classic second language
01:15:41 like being phrased in a way that sounds inflammatory,
01:15:45 but it's not.
01:15:46 He's just simply saying, I am not at all concerning myself
01:15:50 with the one-on-one matchup.
01:15:52 But it's going to look like bulletin board material
01:15:54 when they put it up there with the I don't care about him.
01:15:57 And that's not what he means.
01:15:58 He means--
01:15:59 I'm going to run real quick and jump in on Tatum.
01:16:01 OK, he means there's nothing to do.
01:16:05 Like, we have-- this has nothing to do with the KP
01:16:09 versus Bam matchup.
01:16:11 Like, I don't care at all.
01:16:13 Right.
01:16:14 And I love that he misunderstood another question.
01:16:17 Well, I think he's misunderstood a part of it
01:16:18 when he said, wait, wait, did Jimmy
01:16:19 have for the whole series?
01:16:20 And they're like, no, no, I just mean like in this game.
01:16:22 He's like, oh, OK.
01:16:23 And then in his answer, in his response
01:16:25 to mention Bam as sort of like one of their go-to guys
01:16:28 because Jimmy's out of the mix, I love that response.
01:16:31 All over all of us.
01:16:32 Because it's like, yeah, OK, Bam, maybe more touches.
01:16:35 Yeah, he's sure he's in the mix more.
01:16:36 But I mean, it's us against them.
01:16:38 It isn't, oh, I got to make sure I lock down Bam.
01:16:40 Or we got to make sure-- no, no, no.
01:16:42 We're going to beat all of them.
01:16:44 And I think that's sort of been Joe's message always
01:16:46 throughout the course of the regular season
01:16:48 and just chasing your matchup and staying in the moment,
01:16:51 not looking ahead, whether it's a win or a loss,
01:16:54 not dwelling on the past.
01:16:56 And I just think that Chris Stapps really
01:16:58 embodies that in terms of someone who obviously
01:17:00 doesn't have a whole lot of playoff experience.
01:17:02 Bam, his first playoff game here at TD Garden,
01:17:05 I thought he was tremendous.
01:17:07 And what he said about Jason Tatum
01:17:09 doing a little bit of everything,
01:17:10 getting a triple-double, it was such a special performance.
01:17:12 He just loves being a part of that.
01:17:13 He just loves what this team is doing
01:17:16 and their mental focus right now.
01:17:18 So yeah, I mean, from someone who doesn't see the clip
01:17:23 and read that, they'll be like, oh, whoa,
01:17:25 he's taking shots at Bam.
01:17:26 But no, if you're in that room, you knew it wasn't like, oh,
01:17:29 I don't give a damn about Bam.
01:17:30 I'm like, no, I don't care about any of those guys.
01:17:32 I'm worried about me, my team, and what we're trying to do.
01:17:35 And yeah, I love what Chris Stapps said today,
01:17:38 especially after this performance
01:17:39 and after this game one victory.
01:17:41 There it is.
01:17:42 And that's it.
01:17:43 Game one victory, Celtics, 114-94.
01:17:47 Take down the heat.
01:17:48 Comfortable-- what?
01:17:49 I didn't do that.
01:17:51 Comfortable, easy, it just happened.
01:17:54 It just roboed its way onto the screen.
01:17:56 I think producers behind the scene were trying to remove it.
01:17:59 And it popped up.
01:18:00 But anyway, big win, nice little gap here.
01:18:03 They're back on Wednesday and then headed to Miami,
01:18:06 where again, hopefully, make short work of this
01:18:09 and then move on here.
01:18:10 Bobby's trying to get a third night in Miami,
01:18:12 I think, the way he's talking about it.
01:18:14 One trip, Jimmy.
01:18:15 This team has to-- it better be one trip,
01:18:17 because if it's supposed to do, win this in five,
01:18:21 like my prediction says, there's no second chance.
01:18:24 Back in Boston.
01:18:25 Yeah, exactly.
01:18:26 It should be four.
01:18:27 And again, like I said, my prediction, I wrote four,
01:18:30 had written the whole thing, and I was like,
01:18:32 I'll just mess around and I'll call it six,
01:18:35 just to put a little blood in the water here.
01:18:37 But you know what, though?
01:18:38 I still think it's very possible, very possible.
01:18:43 The next game is huge to me, just in terms
01:18:45 of a lot of things.
01:18:47 Mentality of the Celtics going forward, how they view things.
01:18:49 If they come out and go about their business
01:18:52 in the same manner, even if the shots aren't falling,
01:18:55 and they maintain the patience to go through,
01:18:57 getting the best shot, working the ball,
01:19:00 not forcing the issue, not settling,
01:19:02 while continuing to play defense, they're great.
01:19:06 But if it's one of those, well, the shots aren't falling,
01:19:11 so I'll just shoot more of them type of games,
01:19:14 you could see it go in a different direction.
01:19:17 So I am curious where it goes.
01:19:18 But I do think, if they come out the same way they did tonight,
01:19:22 today in game two, it could be over in four,
01:19:25 because it shows they're serious.
01:19:26 Basically, that's what we want to see, guys.
01:19:28 Are they serious or not?
01:19:29 Everybody knows this version of the Celtics exists.
01:19:32 It's the other version that you don't want to see.
01:19:36 Does it rear its head in the playoffs?
01:19:37 I don't know.
01:19:38 Is it a thing?
01:19:42 - I mean, it's part of their DNA, isn't it?
01:19:45 Isn't that their characteristic?
01:19:46 - That's what you don't know.
01:19:48 - Well, I think--
01:19:49 - I don't say that to say it's bound to happen,
01:19:51 but I mean, we saw a little bit of it in the fourth quarter,
01:19:53 if you want to be technical here, you know?
01:19:55 But go ahead, Jimmy.
01:19:56 - I just think the concerns you have about the Celtics
01:19:58 are fair concerns.
01:19:59 I just don't think the Heat are good enough
01:20:01 to take advantage of.
01:20:02 - I agree.
01:20:03 - So if you're gonna have those same concerns
01:20:04 in the next series against, theoretically, a better team,
01:20:07 then we can have those conversations.
01:20:09 We might have them because it could end up in a loss,
01:20:12 whereas against the Heat team,
01:20:13 I don't know if they're good enough
01:20:16 or if they're going to be close enough,
01:20:18 the scores would be close enough for them to overcome it.
01:20:20 - I think that's the best point, Jimmy.
01:20:22 It's that the Heat just don't have the horses
01:20:24 at the end of the day.
01:20:26 Certainly not to win the series,
01:20:27 but you wonder how many games that they can win there,
01:20:29 but they don't have the horses.
01:20:31 And so the Celtics can play an imperfect game,
01:20:34 let some of the bad habits creep in,
01:20:36 and I think it'll be really hard.
01:20:37 But we are gonna wrap it.
01:20:38 We are back on Wednesday.
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01:21:09 Six, Jimmy, can we do the math?
01:21:10 They need 16 wins, they got one.
01:21:12 How many do we need?
01:21:13 - Carry the one, yeah, 15 to go.
01:21:16 - Okay, 15 to go.
01:21:17 - Yay, home school.
01:21:19 - Don't ask me in the middle of the second round,
01:21:21 'cause that's when it starts to get-
01:21:22 - After they get three, it gets complicated.
01:21:25 - Yeah, it starts to get, yeah.
01:21:27 - Yeah, this one I've got, 16 apples, Jimmy.
01:21:30 - 16 minus one, I can do.
01:21:32 - So we will see you guys.
01:21:34 Like I said, we'll probably have some sort of programming
01:21:37 in the next couple of days to preview.
01:21:39 Jimmy Hardhat is back.
01:21:41 Next game is on Wednesday.
01:21:42 We expect to see you all there, and then some.
01:21:44 Thank you guys for hanging out with us.
01:21:46 Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.
01:21:48 - Wait, Amit's got an outro for us, I think.
01:21:50 - No, he doesn't.
01:21:51 - You said he was gonna work on an outro.
01:21:53 - Man, he had a phenomenal game.
01:21:56 - Phenomenal.
01:21:57 (laughing)
01:21:59 - Four for dough, I think it's an odd one.
01:22:01 (laughing)
01:22:04 - That did not sound like a chair.
01:22:06 - It was a freaking chair.
01:22:07 It does sound like a chair.
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