In the fourth episode of 'Billboard Unfiltered,' Billboard staffers Damien Scott & Carl Lamarre break down the Top 15 most scathing diss tracks in the history of diss track battles. They go in-depth about J.Cole’s “Grippy” feature, Sexyy Red’s newest album & her career projection and more!
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00:00 Either was scathing more scathing to me because that's what it took for hope to get to that point
00:05 Clearly whole has self-esteem issues. I love you. Oh, by the way, so I think people hold him to a different standard
00:11 The drink about grippy. No one would care what I appreciate about sexy is her authenticity
00:17 She's out here twerking at a Zach Bryan concert. Hey, you don't see that every day
00:27 We are back from Memorial Day
00:30 Weekend just two of us just the two of us
00:33 Trevor Anderson is in Paris. He went to go see him and I'll call it L fortunately straight sets
00:39 But we got hold it down to Trevor's memory and a doll
00:42 We call it a little ruckus last week on the on the internet
00:47 We put out our top 15 most scathing
00:53 Disses of all time. Yeah, I think before we dive into you know 15 to wine
00:59 We should break down because there was a lot of confusion. Yeah, like is this the greatest, you know, this is of all time
01:04 What's the great thing not the best not the greatest?
01:07 we saw we saw everyone do their greatest and their best lists and
01:12 We've been kicking around how to tackle it for a while. You're like, oh
01:17 you should do something in this world and
01:23 The thing that we all talked about most from this battle was just how
01:27 Piercing and personal and just scathing and disrespectful these these disses were especially the
01:36 last
01:38 Three I was I guess yeah or less. Yeah
01:42 Family matters meet the grams meet the grams not like us and the hard part six. Yeah. Yeah
01:50 I mean that was easy story from mobile
01:53 and so
01:56 That was our conversation for most of it was like yo the thing that has differentiated this battle from other battles has been
02:03 The tone and the timber of the songs that have been released a lot of people have been like this is not how battle rap
02:10 Is supposed to go battle rap is supposed to be about bars and respect and not lying
02:15 and I was like, I don't know if you guys have listened to battle rap bro, like
02:19 Them niggas are wild disrespectful nasty work. And so in the spirit of just you know, showing people that like yo one
02:27 Battle rap has always been even at the high level where you where you have
02:33 Multi-platinum artists even at that level it's been
02:38 super scathing all the way down to like the
02:44 You know battle rap leagues
02:46 and so what we're seeing now as crazy as it sounds is nothing new and
02:52 So it was like yeah, let's just put together what we believe are the
02:56 most the 15 most skating and
02:59 Just show people. Yeah, you know that this is this is has been rap for a long time. Yeah, this is nothing new
03:06 Well, let's give them the 15
03:08 Start with number 15 TI. What's up? What's happening?
03:12 14 Roxanne Shantae Roxanne's revenge 13 Remy ma she third 12 Cameron de Astan
03:19 11 easy e real motherfucking g's 10 Eminem nail in the coffin 9 common the bitch and you 850 cent back down
03:27 7 Drake family matters 6 Nas either 5 Kendrick Lamar meet the grams for ice cube
03:33 No, vaseline 3 Jay Z super ugly to push a tea story of added on and one
03:40 Mr. Tupac Shakur hit him up. Yeah, so again, these aren't the best
03:45 Yeah, we got a real right so I got a rest of songs. I think if you think about the best diss songs you have to
03:51 Think about them as songs first
03:54 These are amazing songs that are also disses. Yeah, where's people? Yeah. No, no, these are
04:01 this tracks that were just
04:03 unabashedly
04:06 Fucked up. Oh, yeah, I heard a lot of people saying that ether should be higher. I was one of them
04:12 Yeah
04:14 If I if I get to rank it again, I'd probably I definitely put it top five. I think
04:18 Just because I went I went back and listened to it after reading everyone's comments
04:24 And I think at the time I was like this is not skating at all
04:27 This is just because it's gotten so much more personal over the year. Yeah, but even at that at that time it was like
04:32 yeah, he talks about like
04:36 Jay-z, you know not getting love from girls because of his looks which was like funny, but now I listen to it
04:42 I'm like damn that's fucked up
04:44 At the time in high school. I was like, that's hilarious
04:47 But now I'm like damn that's fucked up
04:50 But then if you compare what Nas says on ether to what Jay-z says
04:55 I'm super ugly if someone tells you like, oh you don't get girls cuz you're ugly you're like
05:00 Damn, that's fucked up. Why would you say that to me? If someone comes up to you and you're like, hey
05:05 I had sex with your baby mother and I left my condom in your child's baby seat
05:11 You're gonna throw hands. Yeah, no, absolutely. We're gonna throw hands. That's not something you can wrap your way out of
05:16 Oh, yeah, right. That's not rapid. The beef is over like we're gonna now it's like something else. No, we scrapping
05:22 I think that's why Jay-z apologized. Yes, his mom was like what the fuck are you doing? Rose?
05:25 Yeah, no, no, I agree. I agree from that standpoint
05:28 I remember what I was telling you - I think either was scathing
05:33 More skating to me because that's what it took for hope to get to that point, right?
05:39 If that makes sense, right, you know the levels like clearly whole has self-esteem issues. I love you. Oh, oh by the way
05:45 It's my guy. Oh, but I mean
05:48 Tybo. Oh like I've been watching diary diary back in the day. I might not know MTV Diaries
05:55 We remember home taking a little boxing class and try to get it in
05:58 You know I'm saying and of course Jay was still at the time. I could only imagine
06:03 Dealing with PTSD triggered when cats are talking about the renegade shit when M
06:09 Like is you on your own shit murdered him on the own shit about still trying to step out of Biggie's shadow
06:15 Yeah, I think because whole still was trying to combat those issues internally
06:21 It probably fucked up his psyche even more. Yeah, I think in terms of a battle record that was it was effective
06:27 Yeah, it was so effective because Nas just knew what buttons to push
06:31 You know, he knew like he knew Jay. Yeah, you know, he was like dog. I know you like
06:37 Don't want to do this. I know you bro and not like I know like things about you
06:42 he's like I know who you are and
06:44 if you really want to do this, there are things I I'm gonna say to you that to other people might not be as
06:51 You know as like cheer-inducing as
06:56 You know, I make more money off your songs and you do or five albums in ten years I can divide like yeah
07:04 those are great lines, but
07:06 really digging into
07:08 insecurities you have is
07:10 crazy
07:12 As I said to you I think the even the more
07:17 Piercing record that Nas made towards Jay was last real nigga alive
07:21 Oh, absolutely, because he doesn't even focus on J for that long
07:25 Oh, yeah on that song where he's basically like you're not even a part of this thing
07:29 He gave the whole narration to how to be
07:33 He well, he like kind of narrates like New York rap right from Biggie
07:38 Yeah from like his inception on and he's like
07:43 Me Biggie and Wu-Tang were all a part of this thing and then you were over here
07:48 Yeah, and then you tried to be a part of it, but then you hit with ain't no nigga
07:54 Tough yeah, I still think about though
07:58 I told you the last lines from that song like I was Scarface Jay was Manolo hurt me had when I had to kill him
08:04 And it's old squad for dough. I still hits 20 years later. I remember hearing that song on
08:09 on God's Son and just being like
08:12 God damn. Yeah, he just really won't let it go
08:15 I thought you know, it's crazy saying that the aftermath like a freaking last real nigga alive and then blueprint - those songs were top
08:22 Yeah tier. Yeah after the battle like I know people are also probably looking at the list and saying
08:27 Are we a little crazy for throwing in Drake and Kendrick when it comes to like an all-time list already?
08:33 No, I think this is you know, I think we've said on another show. This is to me one of the best
08:40 Battles ever. Yeah, this just goes without question. We've never seen anything like this. We never seen people
08:44 So quickly record songs that are so good
08:49 Like the fact that Jay and Kendrick made
08:53 family matters
08:56 Meet the grams not like us and harp
08:59 Part six and push-ups and euphoria all within like a three-week span is nuts crazy
09:06 We haven't heard Kendrick make songs in years
09:10 We got a little mini EP from Kendrick and he put out
09:13 And
09:16 They're all good. They're all like I go back and listen to literally I go back and listen to all of them
09:20 I made like a playlist of it. I just go back. I listen to all of them
09:23 It's crazy. It's a wild listen
09:26 from like
09:28 Like heart and happy to like dark. Yeah, and then to happy again the intentionality by dark
09:34 But no, I think I think meet the grams is probably
09:38 To me. He doesn't get more scathing than that. My man is talking to his father and calling he's
09:44 You talk to someone's mom and dad and said and say your failures because the son you produced. Yeah
09:51 Yeah, that makes me stick up the store story. I added on to when push was like saying like Sandy like you'll always be in
09:57 last place
09:59 The beef is over at that
10:06 End of 40 to tick tick tick. Yeah, man, you unearth that someone has a kid
10:10 You tell him that his parents are terrible that the reason that you are unable to find love and have a family is because they
10:17 Were unable to find love and have a family
10:19 Then he talks about your closest friend who is suffering from a debilitating disease. I
10:26 Don't condone violence at all, but I would understand we fight if someone if they got into a fight
10:33 I wouldn't I would I would get it and which is so crazy because Drake who is a habitual line stepper
10:38 Said yo, there are rules to this but yet he is the one is quick to you don't take off the gloves. Yeah
10:46 That's crazy. There was also once on the people thought should be on there
10:50 Which was young dolls play with your bitch, which I went back and listen to and scathing that was yeah, I agree with y'all that was
10:56 Pretty scared
11:00 I gotta yeah, I gotta give it to dog. I don't I wasn't that familiar with that record beforehand, but
11:05 Props, I wasn't familiar with your game
11:08 God damn and then obviously number one
11:12 Hit him up
11:15 Tupac when him and big were going out of East Coast West Coast the video still plays in my mind
11:21 It's yeah forever there man. Why do you think that's?
11:25 Undisputed I think that kind of set the tone for what we believe
11:29 Battle rap song. I think it was like if I were to have a
11:34 lineage of influence for diss records it would be
11:38 No Vaseline and
11:41 then and then hit him up and then it would be
11:46 story of Adia
11:48 Adia story of Adion just because I
11:52 Believe that people now have this or rappers now and fans have this weird
11:57 Expectation that every diss song has to have this like mind-blowing revelation. Yeah, that will end the rappers career
12:05 I hate that and people were expecting that in this battle. Yeah, they were like every every few days. We heard from some
12:12 talking head or pundit or
12:15 Some random guy on Twitter
12:18 Say like Oh Drake has a bomb. It's gonna and this it's a wall once Drake drops this bomb. It's over
12:24 Oh Kendrick got a bomb once Kendrick drops his bomb. It's over. It's like I
12:28 Don't know man. We don't really need those. We don't need you to really
12:32 Reveal thing. I don't care. I don't I care but I don't
12:36 Yeah, like I don't need to know any of that stuff like it's fine you can just
12:42 Continue rapping about you know, how terrible terrible the person that guy is
12:47 So that's my lineage. I think hit him up is
12:50 To me the most scathing because if you think about that time
12:57 Biggie and Parker friends, you know, they go through their motions freestyles together freestyles together. They
13:05 What they under sleeping on each other's couches?
13:08 and then as
13:11 They both find success they part ways things begin to happen
13:16 pocket-shot
13:18 You know biggie makes the songs he makes that pot leaves are about him Shasha and
13:24 Pop takes a beat that sounds very much like a bad boy beat
13:31 and
13:33 Before the beat even starts before the song even begins
13:36 He says that's why I fucked your bitch that motherfucker
13:41 before the rapping even begins
13:46 And they play that on the radio, yeah
13:48 they bleeped it of course, but they played it on the radio and
13:51 I don't know man, like even if you want to talk about like this songs becoming hit songs. Yeah, that was it and
13:57 That is part of what made it so scathing
14:00 I think for this different songs on the list different things made them skating. It wasn't just like
14:04 Every song wasn't the same like for TI. What's up? What's happening? The most scathing part of that was a video
14:10 yeah, my man was like
14:12 I'm good everywhere, but I can ride a bicycle through your head. I'm not good here. It seems I'm pretty fine. Yeah, right
14:20 Hit him up to me was was just no one
14:24 Had been that direct that blatant that blatant and that catchy
14:30 Ever and I think was crazy about it like for me Pac
14:35 Never came off as a lyricist. Yeah, but the shit
14:41 He was saying was so damning and searing and it was to the point where he gave you like maybe a 16 24
14:46 Like Jersey, yeah, like I'm not even gonna do what I can do but yet he like
14:59 Incinerated that whole beef and just like what 20 24 bars
15:04 Yeah, if you ask people like rap rap hit him up. They will most likely rest on
15:10 They would you claim?
15:12 And then the outro like the most scathing parts of it are probably not even the bars that he raps
15:19 It's like the end of it the beginning and the end where he's a prodigy
15:24 Doesn't one of y'all got sick or something all right Peter. Yeah, why bro that plus the
15:35 My four four make sure all your kids don't grow dog
15:38 It's one of if Kendrick or or Drake were like I'm gonna kill your kid
15:43 We would all be like whoa
15:46 Well, all right guys relax. This is you guys are bugging right now. It didn't help
15:50 What do you think about you know what big was going through at the time?
15:54 What faith right her taking the photo with Pac? I think that was at the set of the California love video
16:00 Yeah, I believe so, but they had taken a photo together that it wasn't viral at the time
16:05 But it spread you know so they added some legitimacy
16:09 Cuz faith wasn't even fucking with big at the time like that right to the claims that you know what Pac had
16:16 but that
16:18 Almost 30 years ago, which is crazy, and it still rings off to this day like he dissed all of New York
16:25 Oh, yeah on that record and
16:27 Niggas in New York still fucked with him after that
16:30 Like Nas was like I still love that guy
16:35 I
16:37 Still fuck with him even prodigy was like yeah, that was rough, but like
16:43 Yes still my still my guy you're resting piece to prodigy yeah, the rest of cheese that prodigy big
16:51 Created created like Kodak moments man, so when y'all get the chance
16:56 Please go to billboard.com to check out the full list and the rankings. Yeah, yeah
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17:08 Yeah, but if you go and read the actual list before it before commenting that would be awesome absolutely
17:12 Absolutely, we're gonna switch gears I go to J. Cole
17:18 he
17:21 Recently teamed up with cash govain was featured on cash govain's new song grippy that released last Friday
17:28 Didn't get the best feedback
17:31 from social media a lot of people were like in the middle as far as trying to decide if Cole killed it or
17:39 Did he kind of tank especially coming off his you know him dipping out of the Kendrick Drake battle?
17:46 What's your reaction? Do you feel like people overreacting?
17:49 He'd deliver on the verse. I've had people overreacting. I think they
17:54 It's weird even though this isn't the first thing he's released since he bowed out because he was on we still don't trust you
18:00 Yeah, which I thought great verse yeah great verse absolutely, but people you know we're like as soon as he comes back
18:08 It's like the same thing with Drake as soon as he comes back. You've got to be something crazy got a hit and I think
18:14 For Cole it was just like no I'm a slide on this song on this thing. I'm pretty sure Cole likes the song
18:20 Or else he wouldn't do it. Yeah, so I'm sure he was just like a big fan of cash and big
18:26 You know was down to do something
18:30 And you know I think he gave this is to me
18:33 When Cole has like certain bags, this is his like love this is planes back. Yeah
18:40 you know it's like a
18:43 Little goofy a little a little immature
18:46 Which turn rub some people the wrong way?
18:50 But I think people were reactive people like this is insensitive and offensive
18:58 Sensitive and offensive is crazy, and then because you think he because he is older
19:03 He's a family man projecting himself to be a family man with a wife and kids talking about
19:08 Grippy you know
19:11 That might be it. You know he positions himself as this guy. He's like
19:15 So wise right and above all the you know silliness that most of the rappers
19:23 Involve themselves with so I think people hold him to a different standard if drink a wrap drop rap about grippy no one would care
19:30 So maybe that's it
19:33 Yeah, yeah, I don't think it was his best first, but I don't think people talking about like
19:39 He's he fell off
19:42 Crazy, I think it's interesting and of course you know he's a future artist, so he can't I mean technically he can
19:49 Block you know on some clearance shit. It just like yo don't drop this, but since he bought out
19:54 Pulled out a pulse of seven-minute drill off streaming like we said the last two features have kind of been like some lovey-dovey
20:01 Type vibe instead of like coming with these hard-hitting verses
20:06 Yeah, that we're accustomed to hearing from him especially you know last year alone. I think last year 2018
20:12 He catapulted him to maybe the top five top three murder and everything that's feature artists of all time
20:19 So I think people were expecting some kind of urgency from him. Yeah, I
20:22 Understandable you know understandable I think
20:25 people wanted to
20:28 fans of his wanted to be assured that
20:31 The guy that they were rooting for the guy that they've
20:35 been you know following and the guy that they that they love is still that guy and
20:41 Yeah, I think they're still waiting to see that I'm sure I'm sure they'll get it, but I don't think he's
20:49 Delivered on that yet. I'm opposed to this now. This is of course you go down right?
20:54 And you have a lot of psychos on there
20:56 people are claiming this is all a
21:00 strategic ploy on his part playing off to
21:04 the title of the fall-off
21:07 Like he's giving you these lacks of days ago lackluster verses
21:14 You know he pulled out. This is not typical in Jermaine
21:17 He's giving you some mid verses to play off of his upcoming album, which is titled the fall-off
21:23 Do you think any so the idea is that the idea is he's you he is trying to crater his career?
21:31 Just so he can then have an album that
21:35 says psych I'm
21:38 Yeah, I'm still and he's gonna go hard cold fed. He's gonna like the
21:43 Captain you know that bleed dreamville
21:45 Anything is possible, but I highly highly highly doubt highly doubt that yeah, I think Jermaine loves rap too much to
21:54 be whack
21:56 Punk purpose like I don't think he would do that. I don't I can't see him putting out something that he in his head
22:03 He's like this is whack right, but it plays
22:06 towards a
22:08 Longer game that I'm playing that no one knows about
22:11 I mean crazy story line
22:13 It'll be nuts it'd be so
22:15 Psych there's some true like Andy Kaufman shit. I gotcha
22:18 If he's like I'm gonna be a wack rapper
22:21 for the next six to twelve
22:24 If you're gonna be a wack rapper for six to twelve months you already got to commit to it you got put on more music
22:28 Besides the grippy you know I guess that was like cringe, but I thought the verse was solid like he was flowing
22:36 It was like Jermaine circa like
22:40 2010 2011 yeah, I didn't I thought it was fine. I don't think people were gonna
22:45 Have the reaction that I saw
22:48 About it on Twitter, but I just think it's you know after this beef everything is oh, yeah, everything is touchy
22:56 Everything is crazy
22:58 You know like Drake coming back on a sexy red song people like what is this body, and you know it's like the whole
23:06 Conversation around that was like how could you do this considering what Kendrick just said about you absolutely so I think for fans of
23:14 Every artist involved in that I think so happen to Kendrick - I think
23:17 Whatever Kendrick drops next people are gonna be like one this better not involve
23:22 The beef it better has to be separate from the beef
23:25 But it also has to be fired. Yeah, it also has to be something. That's just unmitigated fire
23:31 All right, so I think they all have these expectations built
23:35 around their fan bases that are pushing them to you know to do these things like because
23:40 They all want to make sure that their artists is still their artists that their artists is still there
23:45 You know I think for Cole fans. I don't think they have anything to worry about I think it's
23:51 Still J. Cole. That's gonna. I agree. I think we got to give a special shout out to man a cash co baby
23:58 Just be cooking killing it killing the new Don Toliver record on the new a boogie record
24:04 He's been working then so I got to give him his props on that good to see New York. You don't have a young cat
24:10 That's back in the mix. It's all about the long jeopardy. Yeah, I don't want him to be just a flavor of the month
24:15 Yeah, but right now. He got it. That's the thing right now. He got it you guys start somewhere
24:20 It's you know it's better that we have him they're like remember that than Ian
24:27 I
24:29 Fuck with Grand Slam that's about it, but
24:35 Why you know somebody who is on the top of her game right now? She is absolutely killing it
24:43 sexy red on Friday
24:45 She released her new mixtape and sexy you trust 14 tracks executive produced by take heat features Drake little baby
24:52 man, I
24:56 How can I say this I
24:58 Wasn't a sexy right fan to start with I appreciated singles. I thought the singles were fucking hard and amazing
25:05 This tape made me a believer. This is the tape that did it. This is the tape that Wow
25:10 Okay, there was there's certain records on there like sport is
25:14 Fucking hard like it's where it made me appreciate her songwriting abilities
25:19 I know it sounds crazy because she's not the most lyrical person in the world
25:22 She could write a fucking hook. She's a great songwriter
25:25 She's an amazing songwriter, and I think it's genius that she partnered up with somebody like take people could build shout out to take you
25:33 Yeah, some of the best beats. He's made absolutely, and I don't know how long yeah going straight to her. Yeah murdering it
25:41 That's interesting. It's interesting that this is that this is the album. Yeah, I think it's
25:45 Part of me. It's just a New York in me, man
25:47 It was like you still at some point like you crave lyricism
25:51 Mm-hmm, and then it's kind of like it's like we're gonna like I wasn't a huge gonna fan for the last few years
25:56 I really gravitated towards gonna and appreciated things beyond the lyrics like the melodies like the beat choice like
26:03 Lyricism isn't always what makes an artist and a certain vibes for everything
26:07 Mm-hmm like there's certain records on this project outside when Mike will made it that I can hear ring it off
26:12 There's records beyond the Drake and baby songs that I think could really bring off this summer
26:17 Yeah, so I got to give her credit because I thought she was just a flash in the pan
26:21 But she really has something here. Yeah, I think she's
26:26 She keeps delivering which I I was a fan of her from
26:31 The jump I thought her last tape was great my my biggest concern
26:36 with after the last tape was
26:39 How is she gonna continue this? Yeah, I was like there's no way
26:43 she has more of these in the stash and
26:46 She somehow continues to make to make hits I think as you said her songwriting is really good
26:53 I think she has great beat sensibility. She knows what she sounds good over
26:57 I brought up Ian just now, but it's funny because people are like oh this kid is the best
27:03 Approximation of
27:07 Gucci circa like the early 2010s
27:12 And I'm like sexy is the best approximation Gucci from the earliest take 2010
27:17 This is encapsulates that whole vibe. That's it. I know Gucci is listen to this like
27:22 Some paper off this
27:31 But yeah, I think she's incredible and I think you know, I mean as you mentioned the Drake song
27:38 Everyone all we heard was a snippet at first Drake rapping over baby. Yeah, baby
27:43 I'll Jersey and everyone's like, oh this is this is this might not go well
27:46 But then I heard the whole song and I was like, oh, this is great pretty good
27:49 She's so charming she's so I think she's a good rapper. I think she what she's able to convey
27:57 I think she has good lyrics. I think her flow needs work
28:01 I think she's not able to like have that that same like the same way that Gucci was able to just
28:07 Catch that be Bob along. I think she's still working on that
28:10 But I think her lyrics are pretty good
28:14 Slapping chicks with a fork is crazy insane, but I think her song sensibility is so strong
28:20 Yeah, like so so so so strong
28:22 I saw some people being like it's clear Drake is helping her write these and I'm like, I don't I don't think so, bro
28:28 I don't think so. I don't think Drake can write these types of songs. I don't think so
28:32 And I what I appreciate about sexy is her authenticity. Yeah unapologetically VR. I mean
28:39 She's out here twerking at a Zach Bryant concert, you know what I'm saying?
28:43 Hey, you don't see that every day, you know, but you know, she's able to pull it off
28:50 I guess the bigger question I have is what do you think her ceiling is? I
28:55 Don't know man, like I'm curious to see how these songs perform. Mm-hmm
29:02 Because
29:04 This is this is a great test, right? This is as big as she's ever been, you know, Drake is on going through his shit, but
29:11 Song with Drake. It's a good song
29:14 Depending on how big that song can get I think we'll see
29:19 What her ceiling is, but I also think is there a world in which?
29:24 She can make an unabashedly pop song the the Mike will song is like a
29:31 side it's a it's like a
29:33 tweener a
29:35 nudge in that direction
29:37 I mean rich baby daddy
29:41 Gives target vibes. Yeah
29:43 That's not like like how pop do you want her to go? I don't think she would make that
29:48 I don't think that would be a sexy red pop song if it wasn't for Drake you saying
29:52 Well, I just don't think like sexy red would make that or what is a sexy red pop song?
29:57 I think I mean the Mike will song that help pop
29:59 Yeah, I think the Mike will song outside is is is a good idea of where she can take it
30:05 I think the lyrics would have to kind of
30:07 Get toned down a bit like okay, the the chorus to that is like let's go because all the niggas outside
30:13 Hilarious and fun. Yeah, but what's a sexy red song that a
30:19 Mom would let their kid put on the same playlist that like Taylor Swift
30:27 I
30:28 Those don't exist yet. They don't they might not ever exist and that's fine
30:31 But the safest one might be ski
30:34 Yeah, I mean I see tick tocks and videos of kids, you know singing her song all the time
30:39 So it's definitely it's not be possible. But I think that's like once you make a song that can crack that world
30:43 She can do it but right now I like that she's just focusing on
30:50 The world and the people she's focusing on I like I like that. She's not even aiming for that. I love that
30:56 Yeah, I like that. She's building this base and she's serving that base repeatedly repeatedly repeatedly
31:01 without even a
31:04 Look towards the charts. I don't think she even cares really
31:08 You know, there might be might come a time when Larry calls in Max Martin
31:12 It's like I'm a max more. This is make this happen
31:18 But you know, I I hope not I hope we hope she keeps going like this for a while
31:23 I hope she just keeps making these songs that you know resonate with where she came from and you know
31:28 like inner cities across the country and I
31:30 Think she's fine
31:33 my hope is that the world just comes to her as
31:35 opposed to her having to like go out and make things that that you know, other people have to like
31:41 People like oh, I can listen to this
31:45 Because you know this person's on the song or it's produced by this person or she's not talking about this stuff. I hope
31:51 It's the other way where I hope people like see her on
31:54 Wrestling and oh who's this? I'm gonna listen to her more and more people come to her world. I hope she doesn't change
32:00 For a while. I hope she stays this way for like at least five more years
32:05 Well, shout out to sexy bread, but if you haven't make sure you check out that tape - we're Nellie yet
32:09 Yo, I would only even I was saying this early
32:13 He's he probably sick. He couldn't Godfather and
32:17 You know, but I feel like she'll pay homage that I could see her do a flip of EI
32:23 Yeah, if she flips any
32:26 Big Nelly hit like hot. I mean, what's the name did hot in here? I don't eat chopper. Oh, yeah
32:33 No to your point about the pop bag
32:36 What if she flipped ride with me?
32:39 Fire that would be crazy fire or what is a dilemma the left?
32:44 fire sexy and who Drake yeah fire
32:47 Bring back the two-way with the Excel spreadsheet dilemma 25 and be a hit
32:55 Yo book it right now dilemma 25
32:58 Sexy red and Drake Drake rockin the rockin the load of the band-aid, right?
33:03 No, he would do it. He would -
33:07 Sheesh that's a hit that's genius. That's a hit. Make sure y'all give us some points on Larry
33:13 But really appreciate y'all for kicking with us this was a fresh episode of Billboard unfiltered we'll see you guys next week
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