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00:00What's going on everyone? Mike Cadlick and Taylor Kylus here for CLNS Media, back with
00:17another edition of the Patriots Daily Podcast. And today we're going to steer a little bit
00:21away from the Patriots. We're going to try and kind of loop it all in, but we're pleased
00:25to welcome on Bobby Manning, CLNS Celtics beat reporter, fresh off an NBA championship.
00:33Celtics obviously set to raise banner 18 after winning the whole thing on Monday night. So
00:38Bobby, thank you for joining us. And before we try and tie this whole thing into the Patriots
00:43and how to kind of build a champion, we'd love to take you, we would love to have you
00:48take us through what that night was like. You've been on the Celtics beat for a couple
00:51of years now. They've been building towards it. Garden Report, you guys have been building
00:55towards it and it finally accumulates into a championship. So, how did it feel? I kind
01:01of feel like you guys kind of feel like a champion as well. So what did the whole thing,
01:04what did the whole thing feel like?
01:05Yeah, as far as the game goes, there wasn't a lot of drama, which was good and bad. You
01:12like to have a interesting game to talk about, but in that situation where you're trying
01:18to get ready to cover the ceremony and just cover the night, it was pretty good to have
01:24that 20 point cushion and be able to get downstairs and get all the video and everything
01:28that you needed. And the whole post game was just crazy. You didn't really know what to
01:33do. You didn't know where to go, who to talk to, because you just hadn't covered anything
01:38like that before. So I got in a pretty good position down by the tunnel and you got a
01:43really good video of them coming off. Tatum was carrying the trophy through and I tried
01:49to grab Tito Horford, who was hanging out down there, but he was stuck on the phone.
01:53And then I went right to the locker room and there was a row of TV cameras and reporters
01:58like miles along around the corner trying to get in there. So I just kind of squeezed
02:02in once the door opened with everybody who was making their way in there and pretty much
02:07spent an hour in there, which I didn't expect the kind of access we got in there. I was
02:12basically just able to videotape everything in there for like 50, 60 minutes and just
02:18grab people, pull them aside, ask them a couple of questions. So I ended up talking to like
02:22seven people in there and just took in the whole celebration. It was pretty wild. It
02:29was really fun. I didn't get too wet, which was good.
02:32Yeah. Did they give you guys like ponchos or something like that to kind of get in there?
02:36Some people took their own. John said I should have brought one and I was like, eh, I didn't
02:41really want to run the store or search for one.
02:43Get an umbrella next year.
02:46I mean, you need something if you're really going to try to get in the mix in there. I
02:49kind of try to stay off to the side and just pull people when they came near me. But if
02:53you were really trying to get into the middle of the celebration, you were going to get
02:56soaked. I know Abby did. A couple other people came out of there just drenched. So that was
03:02certainly a possibility and something to look out for if you're going to cover a Super
03:06Bowl.
03:07Is there any like blueprint or game plan for that? Like you said, it was like mayhem.
03:12Like, did they tell you before, like, OK, this is how it's going to go? Or was it just
03:15like game and all of a sudden, like it's because it's I mean, it's different, right?
03:19Like it's it's different than a normal postgame locker room situation, because, again, you
03:23were in there for almost an hour, you know, champagne's going everywhere.
03:26Guys are, you know, drinking and like all this stuff. So like what was there any sort
03:31of like, OK, this is what's going to happen or was it just like a free for all?
03:33Basically, it was a free for all. You had no idea. And obviously, in a normal locker
03:38room, you're probably only talking to one guy in a scrum. But on this night, everybody's
03:42relevant. And that was something I said a bunch that night with this team is that there
03:47really wasn't a guy, maybe like two, three, four players on the team didn't do anything
03:51all year.
03:52So pretty much everybody played some kind of role in the championship, even if it was
03:56just during the regular season. There were a lot of guys who played. There were a lot
03:59of guys who filled in. There were specialists on the team. You had coaches who played an
04:05important role. He didn't really get to talk to a lot during the year, even like the main
04:10minor league team had a lot of guys who probably project to play some sort of role in the future
04:16here.
04:17So everybody had something to say in there. And it was cool kind of talking to some of
04:21the guys who are on the bench. I know my Jordan Walsh interview is getting a lot of run right
04:26now on Twitter, him just being out of his mind. And yeah, he didn't play a lot during
04:32the year, maybe like a couple of games at the very end, but he developed in Maine all
04:36year. He probably will play a little bit next year or the year after that. And looks
04:42like a guy who could fill in as they start to lose some players into the future, which
04:46will be important as they try to keep this run going here.
04:49So yeah, there was no blueprint. You try to avoid the press conferences this time of year
04:55because there's just so many people and everyone's so buttoned up up there. Now, I didn't get
05:00through all of them yet because I wasn't there for them. I was in the locker room the whole
05:04time, but I feel like there were probably some better answers that throughout the finals,
05:07especially Joe, like everybody was just so locked in. Everyone was so buttoned up. There
05:11were so many questions, so much competition for the mic in there that that didn't end
05:15up being the place to go. And I'm fortunate I had locker room access because it was pretty
05:19tight. I ended up getting it at the last second, but man, that was something to see on a Monday
05:26night. Yeah. Monday night started to blend together.
05:29One more thing. We will start to infuse some Patriots in here for everybody watching, but
05:32I am curious. It felt like that loss in Dallas had to happen to get Boston back home so they
05:37could celebrate on their home court with their fans. Another moment other than obviously
05:41the win was that Pritchard shot from half court to finish the first half. What was that
05:46like to actually be there? Because I was literally watching on a loop for all of halftime because
05:51seeing the entire crowd jump up, but you could see everyone's like, oh, is it going to go
05:55in because he'd already done it earlier in the series.
05:57So what was that like actually being present? Because it was insane just to watch it on
06:01video. The place went crazy and I was listening to Bill Simmons yesterday and his dad said
06:08it was great. It was crazy in there for that than the bird steal, which is something to
06:12think about. Wow. And he did it in game two, which is the craziest part. So we write the
06:19whole story about how Jalen said he checked himself in, Peyton did. And he basically went
06:26into the game in game two to shoot that shot. I think at the end of the third, it wasn't
06:31going into halftime in that game, but pretty similar situation. And you see him running
06:36the bench again, there's three, four seconds left. There's a guy at the free throw line
06:42and he comes in the game and just grabs the ball and goes and no one really picks him
06:47up. And so me and Jimmy are sitting there next to each other. And I'm like, here he
06:51comes. He's going to do it again. And he grabs the ball. He goes, no one picks him up. He
06:54tosses it up and it just goes right in. And Jimmy starts like shaking me. It was a crazy
07:02moment even upstairs where we were. Yeah, it was wild in there that night. And it was
07:07almost similar. It obviously was a level above because they're about to clinch a championship.
07:12But that game seven last year against the Heat when they're about to pull off the three
07:15nothing comeback, the first ever. And everybody's there, celebrities, former players and stuff.
07:21It was this real moment in there. And then you had the letdown and it was like, ooh,
07:25and it just the nerves, the level of energy just went down slowly throughout the game.
07:30And this one is the lead built up, up, up, the energy just started to build in there.
07:34And it almost felt like a way game six, how big they were up in the second half, how little
07:39doubt there was about the championship at that point. So it almost just became a quarter
07:43long celebration by the time the fourth came around.
07:46That's awesome. And it's like, I keep seeing like Peyton Pritchard's like the first NBA
07:51where like he literally was on the floor for like four seconds. He does the one thing he
07:54and now granted Peyton's, you know, better than just half court shots, but having out
07:58of a rough series and then he's in there and he hits to like half court shots at the end
08:02of the buzzer is pretty awesome. So it's also in a full wide receiver stance before he's
08:07down and everything. I'm like, oh, crap. He taking a little page out of Julian. I don't
08:11want to play. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, that was a couple of football moments that and
08:15I don't know if you saw the play the Pacers ran at the end.
08:18I think it was game four. Yes, the inbounding routes. Yeah. Yeah. There were a couple of
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09:30I guess it's I guess this one's not fully football focused but like what do you think
09:34the keys were from you know start to finish for the Celtics to really like assemble a
09:40championship roster like is it all skill is it off the court like you know leadership
09:45mentality things like that like well I guess what are the key pieces that you know went
09:49into assembling this this team that was able to raise banner 18 especially with all the
09:53like with the Jays they're already talking about yeah those guys up it felt like there
09:57was so much controversy for the past couple years about how they were assembling the team
10:01just to kind of add on there just was fascinating to finally see it come together.
10:05Yeah there were a lot of roster building debates the whole time even going back 10 years ago
10:09to the trade that started everything sending out Pearson Garnett and getting all those
10:13picks that they got so they made the tough decision at that time it wasn't a grueling
10:18decision because they lost in the first round the year before it was pretty clear their
10:22run was coming to an end given the ages of those guys but they still made a difficult
10:26decision to trade them and they got a lot that ultimately led to Brown and Tatum getting
10:31drafted and making those draft picks was a tough choice to you had other guys in there
10:36who would have been major busts so those were two of the best draft picks frankly ever
10:41I hit those positions because they weren't easy decisions you had a ball and Brandon
10:47Ingram and Jamal Murray and some other guys floating around at that Jalen spot that one
10:52was a little easier just because you were third and it you know the guy who you pick
10:56just kind of fell to you in that spot but then the Tatum one everyone's thinking Markell
11:00folks back then including me so those weren't easy picks to make you trade I heard you guys
11:05talking about that on the Garden Report the other night where it's like they had to trade
11:08back they had to hit that and then they're also like Jimmy seemed upset about it but
11:12like Josh Jackson was sitting right there and that could have easily been the pick for
11:16them as well now granted he said like you didn't want to play for Boston whatever but
11:19you don't only have to hit the trade but you also have to hit on the players you pick so
11:24it's like one out of a million one out of a million kind of just all going back on top
11:28of each other yeah so you start to make the comparisons a little bit and the tough part
11:32is when you look at the past they didn't trade Brady they didn't get any right for him he just
11:36walks so that's the tough part one there you're not really accumulating phenomenal picks the
11:43whole way through you make the mistake yeah and a you know Mac had maybe a chance of things
11:51went a certain way but in the end it doesn't work so you're almost resetting now with me
11:56trying to get the first centerpiece into the future there and with a new coach and everything
12:01else maybe that's another comparison because Brad obviously didn't really work at the beginning
12:05there and they make that change and get EMA and Joe and those end up being the right guys
12:10not EMA but Joe rather so you're hoping Mayo ends up setting the stage here but the good
12:17thing to look at I guess with the Pats is that they're sort of at a ground stage rebuild here
12:22like they get that top pick they pick a guy who seems to have the cachet the pedigree to be a
12:29centerpiece quarterback into the future and at least from afar looking at how this year is going
12:34to go they're probably going to have another top top end pick this year if it looks like the way
12:40it's being projected so if you hit those first two big time that sets the stage for everything
12:47from that point on and you know things can kind of go up and down I guess the other thing you have
12:51to point to too here is the money WIC and that ownership group for Boston spent at a high high
12:57level when they needed to they've committed to a massive luxury tax hit into the future to put
13:02this roster together and so that more than anything you obviously had the core talent from the very
13:07beginning and those guys developed over the years but those guys hit bumps in the road and they
13:11needed guys who complimented them at the highest level and they went and got those guys and that
13:16took a little bit of luck that took a little bit of aggressiveness and it certainly took
13:19ownership commitment to spending big money there so those are the other ingredients you need certainly
13:24uh totally and then I guess that too like what because they've failed right that I mean failed
13:31as maybe strong as they end up winning the championship but like last year you mentioned
13:34it like they go up 3-0 or they go down 3-0 they come back from 3-0 and then they collapse right
13:39and like Jalen talked about how like that was you know that that that hurt and then they kind of
13:44climb back and they they do it again and a lot of teams would falter and fail so like what I guess
13:49what lessons can the Patriots learn from this like how do they and again it's different it's
13:54crossing sports so it's not all linear but um what's what what did you see from the Celtics
14:00that like the Patriots can take from this team to sort of build and continue to to grow and end up
14:05trying to be a championship team in the future I guess that it's it's not a straight line and
14:11you definitely I I think 2021 was the year where you you started to have some doubts about
14:17this core working together uh the two guys at the center of it we have were you ever
14:22were you ever at split up the jays guy so when they it was emails first year january they
14:29collapsed up 28 at new york or wherever it was and it was almost halfway through the year
14:33they're stuck at 500 and at that point I was open to anything I wasn't calling for them to be split
14:40up at that point but whatever they wanted to do at that time I was open to it and I think
14:46at that time I was there for it because it was just maddening that year and a half where they
14:50win one lose one usually the loss was a massive collapse yeah and instead they went out and
14:57actually reinforced that roster by adding Derek White and that was something else I wanted to
15:01see was them be a little more aggressive with upgrading the talent and I think that's the other
15:05thing you got to look at too especially as the pads try to climb their way up here is there is
15:10value in adding where you can take an advantage of an opportunity you might not feel like you're
15:16a championship team yet but does that one move two moves push you closer making the playoffs
15:22then finally you have that playoff experience and you're not in the mix for a super bowl yet
15:27at that point but you get a feel for the playoffs you get to go through that obviously the pads did
15:32that one year in 2021 with mac but it didn't really build off that I feel like especially
15:39off off the last run there I know they added a bunch of guys going into that year
15:44but you have to be pretty aggressive with supplementing the roster around
15:48your young key guys and that's still the concern here I know they try to go get Ridley
15:53I know they made a bunch of draft picks to try to reinforce that offensive line but
15:58you got to have guys who allow him to succeed early and that's the other thing you look at
16:02here too with percent like how long does he last you know does he is he a guy who can play out a
16:07full season and let may develop behind the scenes or is he a guy who has them at one and three oh
16:11and four early and all of a sudden everybody's calling for may and october right that's the one
16:15thing I'm looking at with the pads here is you need to have the pieces around the young guys
16:19to help them succeed and you know to the Celtics point again they didn't have that in 2021 it was
16:25a disaster it was Tristan Thompson and Evan Fournier and Tatum and Brown I do everything
16:29right uh and that year just ended up being a first round exit in five games so that taught
16:35you the lesson going forward and they actually had to change GM's off that as well with Brad
16:39moving upstairs and you got a little bit more of an aggressive GM so again it's not a straight line
16:44there were moments during this run or the build-up to this run where you thought it wasn't going to
16:48happen so I guess that's from a fan perspective something you can look at and say there might be
16:53a season in here during this Patriots rebuild where it really looks bad but that isn't necessarily
16:58telling of where it might be two years after that and you mentioned how like the Patriots tried to
17:03get Ridley and they tried to supplement the roster but one big piece of that for New England
17:07was the fact that they were so bad last season and haven't really been good in a while
17:11it's kind of hard even if you are throwing money at people to kind of get free agents in the
17:15building because they're like hey I want a chance at a championship and you guys look like you're
17:18far off so how important do you think it was to have the Jays still in house where it's like yeah
17:24we have two very talented guys we really just need a couple veterans who can supplement them
17:29and really bring everything together like do you think those glimpses of success early were
17:33important or do you think it was more you know the aggressiveness and like you said ownership
17:37being willing to spend and some of those factors that contributed to them finally being able to
17:41get the pieces to make this thing happen it's a little bit of both because those guys weren't
17:47ready from a playmaking standpoint from a leadership standpoint to lead the team at that
17:53point so you need to go out and get a white who can help glue things a little bit together you
17:57had to go out and get a porzingis as that release valve when the play is not really there and it's
18:02breaking down you just got to toss to somebody to score but during this run obviously porzingis
18:07wasn't available for a lot of it holiday had his moments where he was effective white too but this
18:13is brown and tatum reaching that higher level as scorers as playmakers as defenders too and they're
18:19really these all-around guys the luxury you have in those guys is that they can do everything there's
18:23no real major weakness in either of their games neither of them's a non-defender neither of them's
18:29a guy who's not willing to make a pass or stuff like that so they're just touching all these
18:33different areas of the game but that wasn't the case two years ago when they started to supplement
18:37the roster around them they had real weaknesses that they needed to work on and having guys who
18:43could minimize those or just fill in those areas to help them out was so key and that's that's the
18:51thing you had to be aggressive with draft picks you had to be aggressive with trades they weren't
18:55signing any of these guys these were all trades that they made so you didn't have the money to
18:59go and do that and obviously boston not the biggest free agent destination in the nba so
19:06you drafted your two core guys who kept them together as you said there taylor and then
19:11you trade for all the other guys you needed at that spot and now you look at it they win the
19:15championship and it probably becomes a little bit more of a destination like the patriots did
19:18during their run you got the centerpiece guys who are probably going to be much more respected
19:23right they have that ring now at this point they've done what it takes so they're going to
19:27have that ability to draw guys to boston at that point and that's the key thing and getting that
19:31first one is that actually looks like a destination at this point and those two guys keeping them
19:36together was the real key and i don't think brad at least from everything i've ever heard even
19:40considered that i think the floor you had with those guys was just too high just from having
19:46those talented pieces despite their flaws you were going to be in the mix year after year after
19:50year which is could you build the roster around them and they finally did and the other aspect
19:54to that too off the court the leadership it was probably important that you move smart out of
20:00this as divisive as a move like that was i don't really think there's a patriot parallel there now
20:05because all those guys from the past run are kind of out the door at this point so it is going to
20:10be on the younger guys at this point to lead early and often so when that time comes it's
20:16probably going to be now they're going to be ready for that and you know fortunately they're
20:20going to have a couple of rebuilding years here to lead up to when they really have to lead them
20:24through the playoffs and stuff like that but that was important for tatum and brown too was to be
20:28thrust into that leadership position because smart was gone the nba finals are finally here and if i
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21:53lowest price guaranteed non-non-patriots related question before we wrap up with one quick one
22:00at the end but you mentioned uh that we'll put it this way tatum at the end of at the end of the
22:06game he's he's on the court with lisa soldiers and uh he says you know what are they going to
22:10say next right and people can argue that this path was rather you know people say the path for them
22:17was rather easy right like the guys were hurt they went four one four one four oh four one right like
22:23they they just smoked it denver wasn't a problem denver wasn't in their way milwaukee wasn't in
22:27their way so like i mean at this point people are freaking complaining about jason tatum's post-game
22:32comments he's trying to rip off kgs it was a little kgs i was watching i was like oh he's
22:38gonna do the thing maybe it was a little cringy but also i don't care because he just want to
22:44freaking james but it's hard to kind of nitpick things but what can be nitpicked like what can
22:51they do this again right now okay they win one they have to do it again do you think they would
22:55have been here if they had to go through more of a challenge and guys were more healthy and they hit
22:59milwaukee and they hit denver like was this too easy for them and do they have what it takes to
23:04do it again i actually think they got tested earlier more than people think and you can't
23:10deny the fact that the stars on those opposing sides went down in pretty much every series
23:14but mitchell played a little bit in the second round halbert and played a little bit in the
23:18third round pacers and calves i thought there were a lot at them calves defensively paces
23:23offensively and you could have legitimately been down at 3-1 in that series through four games if
23:28you didn't make the comebacks that you did in those games so you got tested there and then
23:32dallas was healthy that wasn't the best team you could have seen out of the west from a matchup
23:36standpoint because i thought the maps just matched up horribly with the celtics and that's credit to
23:42the celtics and the way they're able to attack weak guards and the way they're able to defend
23:46one through five versatily so that just is all speaking to the way the celtics took care of
23:52business the way they were able to win some close games they never lost a crunch time game during
23:57the playoffs i think they went six and oh so all that stuff is a credit to them and their dominance
24:03it shouldn't have been a surprise in the end that they rolled through the playoffs i know some people
24:06had skepticism because of how they played in the past but this year they had one of the highest net
24:10ratings ever and so they dominated the field and again it's a matchup game you look back at every
24:16championship run in the nba and there were breaks along the way and maybe the celtics got a few more
24:21than the average team did but you need to have the right matchups you need to have the right luck
24:26there's some injuries mixed in all the time the celtics stayed pretty healthy but they also lost
24:30porzingis right they had to play pretty much three rounds without them so that didn't work in their
24:36favor either so i think it all balances out in the end no one's going to remember who they played or
24:40who was available first round they're just going to remember the run the dominance in the finals
24:44kind of spoke for itself and the expectation will be there to win again next year certainly
24:49with the roster they're bringing back and all of that and we'll see how porzingis recovers from
24:53this injury and just being so injured throughout this whole run but i don't look too much at the
24:58easy path and all that stuff i feel like that talk's already starting to die down a little bit
25:01and as time goes on it'll just continue to die down even more and even more i mean look at who
25:05the paths played during some of their runs in the second round it was like the colts and
25:09whoever so sometimes you get those breaks you get a buy by 40 yeah yeah you get a buy in football too
25:15yep so to give patriots fans some hope wrapping this up do you see any similarities from the
25:22early years of tatum and brown to kind of where the patriots are right now and also what would
25:26you tell patriots fans who kind of like celtics fans were used to dynasties and great teams and
25:31then went through a lull where they weren't really bringing those home and finally were able to make
25:35it out on top yeah not not with brandon tatum uh because you had a stack team that they were
25:42drafted into right away with kairi and hayward and all that stuff so it's tough to compare those two
25:48but i will compare it to the very beginning of this run again brad's in his first year coaching
25:54coming out of college mayo's in that position now you had that horrendous year effectively a tank
26:01year off the bat where you're just not in the mix ever and i think the celtics had like 30 wins or
26:08something that year maybe so that is where you're at if you're the pats now are you 10 years away
26:14from a title at this point i don't know it's tough to say given how these next years go will dictate
26:20a lot of how fast it's going to come together again but at least from my perspective i was a
26:25fan then i was going to games i was buying 13 tickets you enjoy that you enjoy watching some
26:30of the younger guys develop you enjoy watching all the moving and shaking they're gonna have to
26:34do roster wise so there is some fun in any sport really to being at the bottom because there's only
26:40one way to go which is up so that year it was tough because you never really knew whether you
26:45wanted them to win or not i feel like the paths are still going to be in a similar position this
26:49year where you're like all right like it'll be good if they win some of these games but at the
26:53end of the year if you have two three wins and you're picking at the top again is that for the
26:56better long term and again to compare it to the celtics year two you're tanking again for the
27:02first half of that year but then you go on and get isaiah at that trade deadline and everything
27:07changes and they start winning like crazy and they make the playoffs and you're like was this good was
27:12this bad but ends up being good because then the next year they're in the playoffs again and the
27:17year after that they're in the east final so there's levels to the build you know there's different ways
27:21to do it they certainly had their ups and downs the celtics did i'm sure the paths are going to
27:25have it here too so there's going to have to be a patience there's going to have to be a different
27:30level of expectation certainly with this group compared to what people are used to through the
27:34brady years and all that but you also try to enjoy it i'm sure the tickets will be a little cheaper
27:38to go to gillette um i'm sure you know there's going to be a lot of moves and stuff yeah game
27:43time so that that's all good uh and you're just going to have to find your own way to enjoy it
27:48because it's not going to be the same as it was before and that's i think similar to the way the
27:52celtics were too coming out of that kg pierce era where you're right in the mix pretty much every
27:56year with those real stalwart veterans i think that's a good way to sort of first of all a good
28:01way to sort of wrap it up and kind of take it to the end here but also like we're so lucky being
28:07from here where like it's always like it's contender or bust contender or bust and the
28:11patriots were like that for so long and that's the expectation so there's sort of four or five years
28:16now post brady and it's like when is this going to happen but when you look at the celtics and how
28:21they did it from 2008 on it was this slow methodical ups and downs roller coaster rebuild
28:28and that's how most things work that's how it's supposed to work in sports right you're and that's
28:32why the draft is set up the way it is in sports where you hit the bottom and you kind of rebuild
28:36and you're able to regain it and the celtics did just that and now it wasn't just building through
28:40the draft like you mentioned bobby it was trades and you know a lot of luck involved but there's a
28:45way the patriots can do this i think uh it just again they have to hit on a lot of stuff there
28:49has to be luck involved uh but they can get it done you just got to have some patience just like
28:53self-experience did for quite some time so that's going to do it for our episode of pat's daily here
28:58using our good friend bobby manning from clns media sell the computer reporter uh you can check
29:03out all his work bobby actually you know what i'll let you plug it it's uh summer league's coming up
29:07what do you have coming down the pipe what's going on over at clns for you guys uh as the
29:10celtics continue this uh well really they sort of peter off this run from a championship
29:16yeah speaking of the draft it's in seven days which is hard to imagine the celtics are gonna
29:22pick 30th uh you're gonna see jordan walsh back at summer league in about a month from now which
29:27would be cool and of course whoever they pick in the first or second round uh they could probably
29:31trade back just like last year which is something i've heard a lot of buzz about um so this is gonna
29:37be a quieter off season than the last which goes without saying but certainly the tatum extension
29:42will get done here soon uh the white extension is something that they're going to talk out so
29:46there's a few stories to follow but after this run we covered 101 games this year i'm ready for a
29:53quieter summer in olympics too which is fun oh yeah tatum grant no tatum holiday possibly white
29:59will be playing for team usa and then some other guys for other countries our favorite player derrick
30:04white yeah i hope he makes it that'll be really fun if he's in the olympics see how his tooth is
30:09doing yeah right maybe i get the get the tooth fits fixed first and then go over to paris but
30:14bob thank you so much for joining me we appreciate joining us myself and taylor we appreciate the
30:19time uh everyone else out there thanks for listening make sure you rate review subscribe
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30:27at t kyle's 39 for him and at mike catholic for me over on twitter again uh this is bobby manning
30:33from clns uh taking us through the celtics championship run and how we can relate it to
30:37the patriots and where they're at now thanks for watching and take care of yourselves taylor
30:42take care of each other and we'll see you next time