Christy Canyon - Your Favorite Classic Pornstar interview / Podcast
Christy Canyon - Your Favorite Classic Pornstar interview / Podcast
Transcript
00:00:00Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the show. I am so excited to have a legend in the studio
00:00:26here today. Well, she left, so I had to substitute Christy Canyon instead. Thanks for showing
00:00:33up in place. I will always be your sloppy second, Holly. Always. I'll be the third.
00:00:38Christy, thank you so much for coming down. I really appreciate it. You're welcome. I'm
00:00:42honored that you finally asked me. I was thinking, why is everyone on Holly Randall's show except
00:00:46for me? She doesn't love me. Oh my God. No, I do. I just know you're a very busy lady,
00:00:52but I've had a lot of people request you and so many people were excited about you coming
00:00:55on today. Oh, well, I'm here. Went through the marching band on Wilshire. Okay. You saw
00:01:01them too. Yes. It was beautiful. It was. Was it like a, I couldn't tell what it was. It
00:01:06looked like a bunch of students. I don't know. I don't care. It just looked cute from afar
00:01:09and then I'm like, fuck, I gotta go pee so bad. Oh, are we allowed to use the- Yes. Okay.
00:01:14You can totally swear. Good. Only because I'm used to it on my series XM show, you can
00:01:19swear, but then all of a sudden I'm like, oh my gosh, can we say bad words? I know.
00:01:22My potty mouth. I've gone on a couple of shows where you're
00:01:25not allowed to. I went on one guy's morning radio show. I can't even remember who it was
00:01:30and I made it like 75% of the way through the podcast without swearing and then one
00:01:34slipped out and he got so angry at me and I was like, I feel like I should be commended
00:01:39for making it this long without swearing. Are you serious? Like, come on, you're mad
00:01:45at me? Like one was going to come out eventually. Come on. Come on, people.
00:01:49You just get so used to it, but I have heard such great things about your podcast from
00:01:53the girls that I have on my show. Oh, thank you.
00:01:55They always say, oh my God, we love her show. She's so great. I'm like, great, now eat my
00:01:59pussy. Great, different shows versus X-rated. Totally different shows. So for those of you
00:02:06who don't know and how could you not know, Christy Canyon has a show on Sirius XM. What
00:02:12channel is it again? Channel 415 Vivid Radio.
00:02:15Fantastic. You've been on that show forever.
00:02:18I have. I've been at Vivid for like five and a half years and before that I was on with
00:02:23Ginger Lynn and then Nikki Hunter and then Ginger Lynn again on Playboy Radio, I think
00:02:29for about 12 years.
00:02:31So you are no stranger to the radio syndicate.
00:02:35For the most part, yeah. I mean, sometimes I go in there, I'm like, fuck, what do I talk
00:02:39about? Okay, I'll talk about my sex last night or what, you know, when a girl, believe it
00:02:43or not, if a girl flakes, that happens sometimes.
00:02:45Yeah, that's got to be infuriating.
00:02:47It is, but luckily I always have so many great stories that I could talk about and it doesn't
00:02:52happen much, but every so often.
00:02:53I have to say, like, I'm so in awe of how you're able to just switch, because I've been
00:02:59on your show a couple of times, and the way that you can just switch from talking about
00:03:03the most mundane things to launching into this incredibly explicit sex story and just
00:03:08the words, it just flows out of your mouth like no problem, and so detail-oriented, and
00:03:15I'm just like, how does she do it? It's incredible.
00:03:19Oh, thanks. And you know what? I've been on radio for like 14 years, so you just, you
00:03:24kind of get it, you know? Like, your mouth has to be, we don't have cameras like you
00:03:28do and we take a Twitter photo, but you have to describe everything in great deal, because
00:03:35your mouth is their eyes or, I don't know, something like that.
00:03:38Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your mouth, yes, that makes sense. Your mouth is their eyes.
00:03:41It makes sense up here, and that's all I care about.
00:03:44And the way that you can kind of like squeeze in, you know, your little pitch for the actual
00:03:49station that people are on and the way that you get it before the commercial breaks and
00:03:53just like your timing is impeccable, it's really-
00:03:55Oh, thanks. If you have to be or it sounds like a, you know, high school garage radio
00:04:00show. If you get cut off at the breaks and you're like, fuck, I missed that, you know?
00:04:05Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:04:06How did you get into start doing radio? Like, how did that whole thing begin?
00:04:10God, it was, was it like 2004? I think I filled in on Playboy Radio for, remember, Julie Ashton?
00:04:19Yes.
00:04:20Love her. And she was gone a lot. She was getting engaged. And so I filled in for her
00:04:26a lot. I originally went on Playboy Radio when my book came out for promotion. And then
00:04:32the station manager was like, oh my God, you're so great, da, da, da. Would you fill in when
00:04:36a girl can't make it? It was Tiffany Granith and Julie Ashton. So I said, yeah, absolutely.
00:04:40And then a couple months later, six months later, Julie Ashton was getting married, moving
00:04:44to a different state. And they said, oh, would you be interested in the job? And I was like,
00:04:49yeah, absolutely.
00:04:50So it just happened naturally. It was just, like, I always look at my career like that
00:04:54game Leapfrog. Remember where they jump from one lily pad to the next? Like, you know,
00:04:59it was adult films and then the dancing and then I wrote my book and then radio and not
00:05:05sure what the next leap pad is. But you know, like, it just kind of flows. Because I have
00:05:10no other talents except talking about sex. I am like a one-trick pony.
00:05:15But you do that trick so well.
00:05:17I do. I do.
00:05:19And do you, I mean, you say that you come in and if a girl flakes, you have great stories
00:05:24to talk about. Are these stories, like, from your everyday life still? Like, do you still
00:05:29have this amazing sex life? Or are these stories from back in the day?
00:05:33Both, you know. But no, I do still have a very active and healthy sex life. And that's
00:05:38something that it's just, I think I've lasted this long in the business because you have
00:05:42to love sex. You have to love trying different things. And as I've gotten older, I love trying
00:05:48different things and new things. Like, when I was 18, I was such a babe in the wood. I
00:05:52was so wet behind the ears, you know. Like, when I started in films, I'd never been with
00:05:56a girl. I'd never been with a black guy. I'd never been with two guys or what, you know,
00:06:01energy or whatever. Like, you know, I never had done so much. So it was just all this
00:06:06great learning experience.
00:06:08What was one of your, like, favorite new experiences that really stuck out in your mind that you
00:06:14were like, I'm not sure about this. Then you tried it and you're like, this is awesome.
00:06:17Well, I always wanted to be with a girl. You're like, I wasn't like, I'm not sure about this.
00:06:22I was like, yeah, I can't wait, you know. And I'm getting my $400 or whatever.
00:06:27Which was a lot back in the day.
00:06:31It was more than working at, you know, as a hostess somewhere. It was working with a
00:06:35girl who happened to be the beautiful Ginger Lynn. And I was so excited because when I
00:06:40was like 17 and I was in 12th grade, I was like, God, I'm kind of curious about girls.
00:06:45But you know, I'm not going to go up to a schoolmate. And I was shy, believe it or not,
00:06:48back then. Insecure and all that stuff. And then when I got into the adult business shortly
00:06:54after graduation, you know, cut to my second scene was going to be with Ginger Lynn and
00:07:00Jamie Gillis. And I couldn't believe how lucky I was. Like I wanted to try this for
00:07:06a year being with a girl and I was finally going to get my chance. And it's this cute
00:07:10little blonde girl named Ginger. And so it was just, you know, it happened naturally.
00:07:14And being with two guys sticks out in my head. Billy Dee and Steve somebody or other. I can't
00:07:22remember everyone's name.
00:07:23It's funny. Whenever my parents post like an old boy girl set and they can't remember
00:07:27the guy's name, they just call him stud. Stud one, stud two.
00:07:32Hotty. Sexy. Right. They just have these wonderful names. So everything I tried on film, I loved.
00:07:40And if I didn't want to do it, I never did it. Was never into anal to this day. Did a
00:07:46like four inch dildo in a scene with a girl. You know, like in out, in out. Okay, that
00:07:50was fun. But like I never did anything that I didn't want to do. And no one ever asked
00:07:56me to. They're like, no, she won't do anal. She's got the tits. Get rid of the dick between
00:08:00her tits. That's good enough. She's got those natural hooters that Christy, Christina, whatever.
00:08:08And you know, like, so no, I never did anything I didn't want to do, which is why I just love
00:08:13this business because I never was compromised.
00:08:15Yeah. Do you feel like you had, you were really lucky in the beginning that you were able
00:08:20to only do things that you were comfortable with? Or do you think it was just because
00:08:24it was a different time? Because you know, girls get in the industry like these days
00:08:28and they have these horrible experiences and they get pushed into doing a scene they're
00:08:31not comfortable with. And then they like, you know, they come in and they come out and
00:08:34they they're like scarred. Do you think it was just a different time for you?
00:08:37Oh, completely different time. I mean, it was such a different time in the business
00:08:42back in 1984. I mean, life was different. You had like four girls that were making films.
00:08:48They're like, don't piss those girls off. We got to like crank these out every day.
00:08:52You know, like it's it wasn't like a assembly or like a factory where, okay, this one's
00:08:59gone great. We got those 10 that want to come in. I mean, it was like Tracy Lords, Ginger,
00:09:03Amber, myself, and then Nina Hartley kind of came in the San Francisco route. But there
00:09:08were so few of us that you couldn't really peeve, I could say pissed, that you couldn't
00:09:13really piss us off because I'm not even sure what those real words are, peeved us off.
00:09:18But the thing is, there were so few of us and if a girl did anal, great, like Ginger,
00:09:24she was like the fucking amazing one. She did the DPs and da da da. But it didn't matter.
00:09:29They were just glad, I think, in that beginning of the video age to get people to have sex
00:09:33on film.
00:09:34Yeah, because back then there was a lot of models that would do boy girl shoots because
00:09:39there wasn't penetration in the photos because when you would do shoots, it would just be
00:09:42for the magazines, right? And there would not be penetration back then because different
00:09:47laws in different states and Canada was particularly strict. So yeah, you would have models that
00:09:53would do stills, but they would never do video and they would be like, I'm an adult model,
00:09:59not a porn star.
00:10:00Like there was a difference back then and that absolutely does not exist now. You only
00:10:09do stills to accompany the video. You don't ever just do stills anymore.
00:10:13So crazy.
00:10:14Yeah.
00:10:15No, just such a different, different time, but the world was different. It wasn't like
00:10:18the world's still the same, but porno's changing. Everything's so different these days.
00:10:23Absolutely.
00:10:24Everything's fast paced and it's just totally different. I'm just glad that I did mine when
00:10:28I did.
00:10:29Yeah.
00:10:30Never did I have a problem.
00:10:31Do you, if you had any advice for like new girls coming into the industry, what would
00:10:36that be seeing how everything's changed?
00:10:41Don't ever do anything you don't want to do. And if you don't feel comfortable, leave.
00:10:45There's no one there holding a gun to your face and you have to stay, just go, just get
00:10:49out. There are some girls that I interview on my radio show, Vivid Radio Series XM. I
00:10:57look at them and I'm thinking, why are you in this? Why are you here? This is not, you
00:11:03have to be a lot tougher, I think from what I can tell, a lot tougher in the business
00:11:07now.
00:11:08Yeah. Well, especially because I mean, everything's on the internet now and there's no hiding
00:11:14it. Like back in your day, you could kind of do some magazines and they were like these
00:11:18tangible things that could kind of be buried or maybe be lost, right? I mean, were there
00:11:23girls that came in who were like, I'm just going to do a little bit of this and my family's
00:11:28probably not going to find out and then I'm going to go. Did you see a lot of that?
00:11:33We all thought that. I'm like, who's going to notice? I'll do a few magazines, pay off
00:11:37my bills, dah, dah, dah, 35 years later. But no, instantly everyone found out. Everybody.
00:11:47And it was like wildfire with people that I went to school with. Like, oh, wow, did
00:11:51you see what she got into and dah, dah, dah, that kind of thing. It was like everyone found
00:11:56out instantly. It seems like you could find out easier back then because there was such
00:12:01a lesser amount of stuff. Now if a girl does a scene that goes on the internet, there's
00:12:06thousands and thousands of scenes going up. Back then there was like Jugs and High Society
00:12:12and Penthouse. It was such a lesser amount of porn available. Does that make sense? It
00:12:21wasn't like you had to sift through thousands of scenes to find that girl you went to high
00:12:25school with.
00:12:26Beth Dombkowski Right, right. Do you feel that, I mean, obviously
00:12:30porn's changed a lot since you started. How do you feel about the way porn has changed?
00:12:35Do you think it's better? Do you think it's worse? Do you think it's a mixed bag?
00:12:38Jessica Flanigan Mixed bag. For me, I'm glad I'm not in it
00:12:42now. But if it works for them, great. Who am I to make any judgments? After being in
00:12:49that wonderful golden era where we're all coddled and spoon-fed and then came these
00:12:54big wonderful contracts with Vivid, I think I was in the best era. But I'm not in it now,
00:13:00so I can't say.
00:13:01Beth Dombkowski Yeah. A lot of people say like nowadays there's
00:13:03no like big contract name porn stars anymore. Like that's dead. You know, the market's just
00:13:07flooded.
00:13:08Jessica Flanigan It kind of went out with like Tara Patrick
00:13:10and Jenna Jameson, I think. Those were like, I think, and that's just my opinion, the last
00:13:15of the big names.
00:13:16Beth Dombkowski Yeah. How was it different for you back then
00:13:18being like a big name? Like how were you treated? How was it different than today?
00:13:23Jessica Flanigan I don't know because I never – like once
00:13:27I was done with work, I put the Christy character aside. You know, like I remember going out
00:13:33with Amberlynn a couple times when we were friends. And she'd go up to the front of
00:13:38a line and say like, don't you know who I am? I want to come in. And they'd be like,
00:13:42no, we don't.
00:13:43Beth Dombkowski There's nothing worse than saying don't
00:13:46you know who I am? And people have been like, absolutely not. I have no clue who you are.
00:13:50Jessica Flanigan Like I never got into that. I never became
00:13:53the character.
00:13:54Beth Dombkowski So it was easier for you to separate your
00:13:56character from who you are.
00:13:58Jessica Flanigan Totally. Completely. I never bought into the
00:14:00bullshit of I'm so great, I make porn. No, I am great and I did make porn and it was
00:14:04fucking phenomenal and fabulous. But I left that at the door. You know, and I went to
00:14:10college and I, you know, was a different character. Like then I'd leave college on Wednesday,
00:14:15take the red eye out to go dance for three days and became the – I love – I have
00:14:20to have the balance in my life. I can't constantly be the character.
00:14:24Beth Dombkowski Right. Whereas today, you know, girls have
00:14:27to hustle so much to make a living. So they, you know, go to set and then they get on their
00:14:32Snapchat and then they do like a masturbation show at home on their Snapchat and they got
00:14:36to create content for their OnlyFans and they're just like constantly, constantly shooting
00:14:42and producing content. And in one way it's great, you know, because obviously they have
00:14:46more agency over their career and they can, you know, create their own content and make
00:14:51their own money without the middleman. But it doesn't seem like they really get to take
00:14:56a break from –
00:14:57Jennifer Aniston You know what? It's so true. Like we would
00:15:00go to a club for six days or three days or whatever the booking was. And then that was
00:15:05it. You didn't go back to the hotel and tweet, hey, I was just on, you know, see my
00:15:09show tomorrow. There wasn't – you had the fucking hotel phone and you couldn't tweet
00:15:13all of that. You know, like it was just a different – I love the pre-social media.
00:15:20Like if you wanted to meet your girls from the 80s or 90s, you had to get in your car,
00:15:25you had to go drive to a bookstore, you had to go drive to the strip club. Like you had
00:15:30to work to meet us. I loved that part of it. We were more mysterious. We were a little
00:15:35more unattainable, you know, and I loved that part of it.
00:15:41Do you feel like the fans were more respectful back then?
00:15:44Absolutely, because unfortunately with social media you get the trolls, you get – which
00:15:48I just block. I have no patience for any of that shit. You know, one guy is like, you're
00:15:53old. And I was like, yeah, I'm not 18 anymore. You know, I'd rather be this age than the
00:15:59alternative, you know. But like that – and I don't get it much, but when I do I just
00:16:02block. I don't engage in all that bullshit.
00:16:05Well first of all, you look amazing. I'm not just saying that. Like you really – I'm
00:16:08actually sitting here thinking like how the fuck did she look so good? I got to like get
00:16:11her a secret after this. Because you look amazing and people say that all the time actually
00:16:15about you. But also, I mean, what do you think about this whole like MILF revolution that's
00:16:22happened?
00:16:23I love it. I think it's great for the girls that are like the Lisa Ann's and Nina Hartley's
00:16:29and Julia Ann and If I Ever Came Back. I love it that they're – I mean the doors have
00:16:34definitely kicked down to all these different great different groups that you could get
00:16:40into. You know, you could Google what you want. Interracial, MILF, Cougar, whatever.
00:16:46I think it's great because everyone has a chance now. I remember back at Playboy Radio
00:16:50I think Magdalene St. Michael's I interviewed. She was like the first MILF that I interviewed
00:16:55like 12 years ago and I was like, MILF, is that – and phones lit up like they – the
00:17:01fans love that.
00:17:02Yeah, it's interesting because the internet kind of opened up this space that people could
00:17:08go and seek out what they really, really wanted as opposed to before when we were just getting
00:17:12magazines and the media was telling you what you wanted or what they thought you wanted.
00:17:16The internet allowed you to search out what you actually really wanted and then all these
00:17:21different genres, these niches came out of the woodwork and you're like, wow, people
00:17:26actually like older women. People actually like this. People actually like balloon popping
00:17:33fetish cake farts. You know what I mean? It just opened this whole kind of door to the
00:17:38psyche of human sexuality and it's like, wow, people are into a lot of different stuff
00:17:44and now they can access all of that and now there's like these new niches that people
00:17:49can make money off of because there's people that are into that.
00:17:54It's so true and I always say as long as it's legal and everyone wants to do it,
00:17:57who cares what your fetish is, you know? It's just – that part I love. There's definitely
00:18:02pluses and minuses to the internet.
00:18:05What do you think are some of the minuses?
00:18:08They killed the porn business. It really did. I mean when the new millennium, a couple
00:18:15years into the new millennium, I mean I was on Playboy Radio and I saw just how girls
00:18:20were getting a little not desperate but a little more like scared like where am I going
00:18:24to make my money? I don't make a thousand or whatever the amounts are. I never talk
00:18:27about money because I don't care what they make. I never talk about that. But I could
00:18:31tell that girls were starting to panic a little bit. We're not making the money anymore
00:18:36because it's out there. I remember one day Vivid was like, Christy, can you come
00:18:39in and look at these scenes? This internet company stole them because they were filing
00:18:44lawsuits and oh, OK, that was Raquel Darian. That was Christy in the Wild. I had to say
00:18:50everything so they could file lawsuits on stopping the piracy. So that is definitely
00:18:55– and you know what? It's not just porn. It killed the music and so much. I can't
00:18:59say oh, we're so great. It only hurt us. It hurt a lot of businesses.
00:19:03Yeah, whenever I complain to my friends who work in mainstream about like the squeezing
00:19:07of the budgets and that kind of stuff, everybody's like, man, us too. Like everyone. It's not
00:19:14just us.
00:19:15It's just the world we live in now. There's nothing you could do.
00:19:19Yeah, absolutely.
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00:20:20So it was a small industry, you know, back when you were, uh, when you were in your prime
00:20:26contract girl time and you said there was a lot of, sorry, not a lot of, yeah, exactly
00:20:32the opposite, um, contract stars. So was there a lot of drama between, because I remember
00:20:37that there was like a big thing between Tracy Lourdes and Ginger Lynn, right? They hated
00:20:41each other, didn't they?
00:20:42They started out from, cause they both started before me, if that's possible. I mean, they
00:20:46were in the caveman days. No, but they actually started like a year before me. And from what
00:20:54I hear, they were really great friends at first. And they were the top two, you know?
00:21:01And then from what I think Ginger told me, then they got in some kind of, you know, fight
00:21:06and I don't know why the who's better, who's more popular, dah, dah, dah. So when I came
00:21:11in, I worked with both of them because they were like, well, we don't like each other,
00:21:14but we'll work with that big titted girl, you know, that kind of thing. So I did a lot
00:21:19of work with Tracy, a lot of work with Ginger. I think I was always that one that got there
00:21:24did my work and left. I never got into the drama and I never got into, I'm better. I'm
00:21:30not better. I'm not, you know, I never bought into any of it, like I was saying earlier.
00:21:34So I would get in there and I would just do my thing and then leave. I never stuck around.
00:21:38I didn't party with the people. I kind of, you know, had my own world outside of that.
00:21:44And then when I became a Vivid Girl in 1990, it was like Hypatia Lee, Raquel Darien, Jamie
00:21:50Summers. I mean, some great, amazing names. No drama. I don't even remember the other
00:21:56girls having drama. In our era, in that beautiful 90s, there wasn't any drama. I mean, I'd love
00:22:03to say, yeah, we pulled each other's hair. No, on film we did like, yeah, fuck my pussy
00:22:07harder. But never outside of film, we had no drama. We all got along.
00:22:11Yeah. Do you think maybe because there was enough work to go around for everyone?
00:22:17Really? That and we were all so different. Like if you were a Savannah fan, original
00:22:22Savannah, you probably weren't going to like the brunette with the big tits, you know,
00:22:27because she had more of that cute, like beautiful blue eyes, blonde hair, Barbie doll. Like
00:22:32we were all so unique and different. I mean, maybe if anything, I was more like Hypatia
00:22:36Lee in the looks department, but there was just no drama. We didn't care. We were all
00:22:41so happy.
00:22:42Yeah. What did you think when you found out about Tracy Lord's being underage? That whole
00:22:48scandal, because that was a big thing. And for those of you who don't know, Tracy Lord's
00:22:51was a very popular porn star, as we were saying earlier. And then it was discovered that she
00:22:56was underage. And my parents almost went to jail for that. And I remember that as a kid.
00:23:01I have my own story with that. So what was your reaction?
00:23:04I had already quit. I got in in 1984 and then quit in 85. I was in it for like eight months
00:23:10and I was burned out. I mean, we were fucking every day, us girls. You couldn't get enough
00:23:15girls to fuck on the videos, you know, because it was this new age. And I remember like I'd
00:23:20shoot at eight in the morning and then Hal Friedman would be like, okay, can you be on
00:23:23my set at seven o'clock tonight? And I'd be like, okay. I mean, I was literally getting
00:23:28fucked two times a day for like 28 straight days, which was fun though. I mean, but you
00:23:34know, after eight months I was like exhausted. I just needed to kind of zone out. So I took
00:23:39a break in April of 85 and I always knew I'd probably come back. I didn't realize four
00:23:44years would go by, but I was like, I love that business. I just literally burned out.
00:23:49That's a lot of like physical exertion.
00:23:52Oh my God, so physical. And I worked for my dad and this and that. So it was like 1986
00:23:57or was it 85 when it came out? It may have been late 85. I had already quit though.
00:24:03That sounds about right because I was about seven years old at the time. So 18.
00:24:09I was watching TV in my apartment and like the news came on and it was like breaking
00:24:17new, you know, next coming up on that. Why was I fucking watching the news? I have no,
00:24:21maybe I was watching TV and like they were tagging something for the news later. And
00:24:25it was like, that's what, you know, in the eighties when you still had like six channels
00:24:28and couldn't stop it on TV. I'm like, what? And whatever I was doing and the news break
00:24:35was coming up. I was like, you know, underage porn star, Tracy Lords. And whatever I was
00:24:39doing, I remember like almost, I almost got dizzy. Like what? You know, and I had to wait
00:24:44for two minutes. And I remember whatever I was doing, I stopped and I sat there. I was
00:24:48like, no, like it kind of gives me chills now. No one knew. I mean, and I just, and
00:24:54then it was like, you know, it was going to be on like whatever inside edition. And I
00:24:59remember I all night I kept watching everything. I was in shock. And I remember calling the
00:25:04makeup artist, Lexi, that we were talking about going, Tracy Lords was under age. And
00:25:09I think I went to her place. She lived next to me. And we were like, no way. You know,
00:25:12like it was a huge deal. I mean, I didn't get affected. They pulled my scenes with her,
00:25:18which was probably about a quarter of my work. It's only made me more popular when I came
00:25:23back four years later, but if anything, it helped me. But I just remember being completely
00:25:30shocked because that girl was anything but acting 16 or whatever age she was. She was
00:25:36so in control and so sure of herself.
00:25:39Yeah. That's what everybody said. And my parents, especially. I remember my dad told me that
00:25:45he, because you know, it's funny these days you would hear about that right away. But
00:25:49back then, you know, there's no social media. News traveled slow. My dad said that he was
00:25:53just sitting there in the morning, drinking his coffee, reading the LA Times, saw the
00:25:58article and just spit his coffee out everywhere. My parents flipped out because my mom shot
00:26:04Tracy Lords more than anybody, more than anyone. And they went and they collected, they pulled
00:26:11all the slides, everything. And they said they drove around LA and found different dumpsters
00:26:16behind supermarkets and just threw the fucking chromes in the dumpster, like burying it under
00:26:20all this trash, drive to the next grocery store, just like scattered, just complete
00:26:25panic.
00:26:26It was a panic that rocked the industry. And there were a few others, Ollie Moore, if you
00:26:31remember that name, little blonde from the same era. I was in W Pink with her. But Tracy
00:26:37is the one that stood out. She was the one, I mean, no one knew, no one would have shot
00:26:43her. She had fake ID and that's what saved everybody was the government gave her fake
00:26:46ID.
00:26:47Yeah, exactly. I heard she took, she stole like her family member, maybe cousin or something's
00:26:52birth certificate and got an actual real legitimate driver's license, I believe.
00:26:57Right.
00:26:58Yeah.
00:26:59And there were a few people that went to court, not jail, unless they were still selling it
00:27:03after, like I know somebody and I don't want to say his name. But he just was an idiot
00:27:08and a greedy and they busted him a year later still selling it. Like that's just, okay,
00:27:12you're dumb. But no one that honestly didn't know never, I don't believe ever went to jail
00:27:17for it.
00:27:18Yeah. I think because my mom took her back to London to go meet with her modeling agency
00:27:24because my mom thought that she should try out mainstream modeling. And I believe that
00:27:28Tracy had to get a passport for that. So I think that that was also another like piece
00:27:32of the pie. She went out and got like an actual government issued passport with again, this
00:27:37fake birth certificate and stuff.
00:27:38That was crazy though. It was crazy. But you know what, like everything had died out eventually
00:27:45and I never see her. Oh my God. I haven't seen her since probably the late eighties.
00:27:49I'm sorry, at the Beverly center. I was like, Nora, Tracy, who are you? And we talked and
00:27:56it was fun and never see her anymore.
00:28:00You know, it's interesting. My dad has this theory because, you know, she was, she was
00:28:04a bright woman. And like you said, very much in control and very, you know, like a
00:28:10Conniving.
00:28:11Conniving as a scheming. And he has this theory that she planned this all along because once
00:28:17she turned 18 and she stopped making movies and she leaked the information so that all
00:28:24of her porn would be pulled. So she could basically like erase her past and start all
00:28:28over again.
00:28:29There was one legit one though. Tracy, I love you. Not that I'm stalking her. I just happen
00:28:35to know.
00:28:36Yeah. I think I remember that. I mean, it's kind of a stretch, but it's an interesting
00:28:40theory. You know, I mean, that would make her one hell of a, you know, psychotic, but
00:28:47genius. And then Ginger's got a different theory that she was working with the feds
00:28:51to take down the porn business. You know what? No one will ever really know the truth.
00:28:56Well, Ginger had a very bad experience with the government. So I believe my mom, cause
00:29:01they tried to get her for tax evasion. And I know that my mom went and testified on her
00:29:05behalf.
00:29:06Ginger was in prison for a little while.
00:29:09And she's open about it. It's not like it was, you know, I think she was on Inside Edition
00:29:12or something about it from prison. It was just a crazy, crazy time. It was nuts. But
00:29:18I love Tracy. I mean, I have nothing personally against her. Like I loved working with her.
00:29:24She was sexy. I mean, I feel horrible saying this about a sexy, you know, but I didn't
00:29:28know. But she was amazing. Or we'd be on set and, you know, Roy Cart would be like, okay,
00:29:33we're going to get Thai food for lunch, everyone. She'd be like, I don't want Thai food. I'll
00:29:37walk before I eat Thai food. Okay, Tracy, what do you want? Like, she owned that set.
00:29:44She was in control. And then she'd look at me and go, I don't mind Thai food. I just
00:29:48wanted to make him get something different. Like she was playing that. I'm like, fuck,
00:29:51I want to be like you. I'd be like, okay, I'll eat anything you guys get. You know,
00:29:55I was always a wimp.
00:29:58You could have pulled that card.
00:30:00But it's just not me.
00:30:02It's not your style.
00:30:03It's not my style at all. Never has been, never will be.
00:30:08You can't do that these days. You pull that whole, like, I'm not eating Thai food thing
00:30:12on set and people will not hire you.
00:30:14Well, they don't even have set food anymore.
00:30:16Yeah, that's true.
00:30:17We had catering three times a day. We had breakfast, lunch, dinner. I'd be like, I don't
00:30:21work till, you know, noon, but I'll get there for breakfast. I got Corby Vash coming on
00:30:28that set. And it was fun to just hang out on set. I loved it. And I'd get there when
00:30:34I was, you know, new in the business. I'd get there early so I could watch other people
00:30:37fuck. A, it was sexy to watch. And B, I was like, okay, so my hair has to go on this side.
00:30:43My legs got to go up in the air. You know, like, I learned from watching these greats.
00:30:49I love being on set. I fucking loved it.
00:30:52I feel like it was more of, I mean, these days we're in such a rush. We have to shoot
00:30:57so much stuff in a day. We're paying by the hour for a location. So it is these days,
00:31:02I'm always like hustling everyone. I'm like, okay, okay, what's next? What's next? Like,
00:31:05we don't sit. Back in the day, we used to sit down for lunch. And we'd have a family
00:31:12style lunch. Everybody would sit down around the table. We'd take like, you know, 45 minutes
00:31:16to an hour to eat lunch. We'd all talk, blah, blah, blah, blah. It was like, yeah, we were
00:31:20like hanging out and that never, I mean, sometimes I don't even eat lunch or if I do, I eat it
00:31:25on my feet. And I'm like talking to people and I'm moving around and I'm like.
00:31:29Texting, talking.
00:31:30Yeah. I like lose my salad three times because I put it here because I had to do this. And
00:31:35you know, it's just, it's so different.
00:31:37It is. It's so different.
00:31:40Did you feel that Boogie Nights was, because that's a lot of people's kind of like benchmark
00:31:44when they think about the way that the porn industry used to be in the golden age. Was
00:31:49it anything like that movie? Have you seen the movie?
00:31:51Oh my God, yes. I love that movie.
00:31:53I was like, I hope you've seen it.
00:31:54Oh my God. I remember seeing it for the first time when it came out. I'll never forget.
00:31:58I remember when I was wearing a white Donna Karan sweat outfit and I went with Victoria
00:32:02Paris and my then husband, Tim, who was a writer for like, I don't know, a bunch of
00:32:07magazines. And we saw it at the Beverly Center. And I remember like leaving and just like,
00:32:12it was such a feel good movie.
00:32:14Yeah.
00:32:15Okay. Was it the same? I'm not, yes and no. I mean, that was more still in the film era.
00:32:22That movie took that, like their timeframe was kind of like it ended right as I was getting
00:32:28into the business.
00:32:29More like late seventies, early eighties.
00:32:31Early eighties even when, you know, they were getting the calls like video, what video?
00:32:36I'm a film producer. I'm not shooting on video. You know, that kind of thing. Whereas when
00:32:41I got into the business, it was 95% video that I shot. Like sometimes they'd be like,
00:32:46so-and-so, they're going to be shooting film today. I'm like, don't they always shoot me
00:32:51on film? You know, like I didn't know the difference between video and film. Like to
00:32:55me, there was no real difference except they said, I remember when it was film, they said,
00:32:59you can't fuck up, Christy, because we can't rewind it like video. And I'm like, fuck,
00:33:04I got dialogue. And you expect me not to fuck up? I don't, I can't memorize lines. Like,
00:33:09you know, they just have to like tape them on Peter Norris' forehead.
00:33:12Really?
00:33:13Oh, Peter. I wouldn't even be looking at him. I'd be looking at the post-its. Oh yeah. Okay.
00:33:20I was horrible at dialogue.
00:33:22That's really funny. I shot somebody the other day who was really bad at dialogue. And I was
00:33:26trying to think of a way to like, I was going to like have someone hold cue cards behind the
00:33:31person they were talking to.
00:33:32They had to. Like they'd be okay, we'll do, you know, single shots and then a close-up
00:33:37from afar, you know, like they couldn't do a lot of close-ups on us both talking because I had to
00:33:43look at the cheat notes a lot. And I was okay with that. Like I never wanted to cross over
00:33:48into mainstream. You know, I'd get offers. I'm like, are you fucking kidding? Have you not seen
00:33:52my films? I'm like, I can't act my way out of a paper bag. Put a fucking couple cocks in front
00:33:58of me and I'll fucking, you know, own it. But dialogue, if you want to fuck me, just ask me.
00:34:05You don't have to offer me a part. Like I never got into mainstream because I just,
00:34:10I'm no desire. I was so comfortable in my, you know, big fish, little pond scenario.
00:34:16Yeah. I feel the same way. I've had some people like ask me, you know, why don't you try to
00:34:21shoot mainstream? And I'm just like, why? Why? I don't want to go there and lug around my portfolio,
00:34:26beg a bunch of people for work. Like I'm comfortable with where I am. I like what I do.
00:34:30I like the people I work with. I feel at home in the adult community. They feel like family,
00:34:35you know, like big fish in a small pond.
00:34:38I love that. I don't want to go to a fucking casting call. I have to look my best. I'm either
00:34:44going to get it or I'm not. I don't, I don't go fucking knocking on doors and pounding the
00:34:48pavement. I don't have composite shots or whatever they're called. Like it'd be just like my tits.
00:34:55There's my composite, my hairy bush or whatever, you know, like, yeah,
00:34:58I never wanted to cross over. I'm so comfortable where I'm at.
00:35:02Yeah. Did you see a lot of your co-stars wanting to cross over into mainstream?
00:35:06Yeah.
00:35:08Ashley, well, it started with Tracy Lords and Ginger Lynn. And they did. I mean,
00:35:13you broke some ground for their era because it was, you know, unacceptable back in the 80s.
00:35:18Then the 90s, Aisling Gear comes to mind the most. And she was on X-Files.
00:35:26Was she?
00:35:27Yes. She had a reoccurring part on X-Files. She was amazing.
00:35:31I got to look that up because I was obsessed with X-Files. I used to watch it all the time.
00:35:35She was actually a good actress. God, who else? Jenna was like the,
00:35:40there were probably others that I can't think of. But a lot have tried to get into singing,
00:35:44Diana Loren, Hypatia Lee, even Tom Byron and Randy West. Like a lot of them tried to get
00:35:50into that even. I don't think anyone really quite, you know, crossed over. Jenna's the closest.
00:35:57Yeah. I would say Jenna's probably the closest.
00:35:59But whatever, she self-destructed for whatever reasons. I don't know. I lost touch with her.
00:36:04Yeah. Well, she's definitely different now. That's for sure.
00:36:09And you know what? Who knows?
00:36:12Yeah. That's her path.
00:36:14Okay. That's one that bought into the character. And again, that's my opinion.
00:36:18Bought into the character. And it doesn't turn out well when people do.
00:36:22I think she's kind of scaled back now and realized, you know,
00:36:25maybe I just better be a normal person. I don't know. Whenever somebody buys into it
00:36:29too much and aren't I great and da-da-da-da-da, you know?
00:36:32I don't think she's scaled back on that.
00:36:35I have lost touch.
00:36:36I don't know if you follow her on Twitter, but she's a conservative now. And she says some pretty
00:36:44outrageous stuff. And she really likes to be confrontational. And yeah.
00:36:49See? And that's so not my style. I'm just like, leave me alone. I don't want to get
00:36:54into it with anybody. You know, once in a while I have to admit, though, I'll tweet something
00:36:58to Garcetti. He's horrible. Clean up our streets. That's about as fucking political as I can.
00:37:07I just don't like Garcetti. I just don't like what he's done. But that's it.
00:37:11That's as far as you go.
00:37:14It is. It is. And I'm sure he's not even reading it. And sometimes it's just like,
00:37:18I got to get it out.
00:37:21What are some of your favorite movies that you did from back in the day?
00:37:25Do you have any that really stick out to you?
00:37:27Yes. So many. WPINK-TV shot 1985 by Paradise Visuals. There was something about it. Wild
00:37:39Things by Alex Dorenzi. Battle of the Stars with Tracy Lords. Bob Wolfe shot it. The show,
00:37:46Comeback. Those were vivid. The Passages series. So many. So many of them do. Or scenes stand out.
00:37:53I did a Gangbangs for John Stalliano in 1985. And I was with six guys. And that stands out
00:37:59because there was something so liberating about it. I didn't even do anal. It was just fun. There
00:38:07were just cocks everywhere. I loved them all. Was that your first Gangbang?
00:38:14Yeah. First and only. First and only. I did three guys in a movie. But that was a Gangbang.
00:38:20I didn't even know if I knew what I was doing when I got there. I was so naive and so happy to
00:38:24be on set that I wouldn't even say, well, who am I working with? And they're on my no list,
00:38:30and I got to be out of here. I'd get there, I'd be like, okay, who do I get to fuck today?
00:38:34Did you have a no list?
00:38:35No. Come one, come all. I really didn't have a no list. I think I finally had a no list
00:38:46when I was a vivid girl. There were two guys that the chemistry wasn't there, Nick E or Nick East,
00:38:55and I'm so sorry, Blake Palmer, toward the end of your career, there were issues with his
00:39:02erections, whether it was me or I don't know, I don't care. But if the energy wasn't there,
00:39:08then they'd be on the no list. Just because like, okay, the last time we worked together,
00:39:12we had to have Ron Jeremy stunt dick, that kind of thing. Other than that, though, I was kind of
00:39:17okay with whoever. I mean, I had my favorites, Mark Davis. Oh, wait, I'm supposed to, this is
00:39:22for you, Matt. I'm supposed to lick my right pinky. By the way, I'll tell you off camera because he's
00:39:29completely changed his life, but I talked to Mark Davis a couple days ago. He's in a completely
00:39:34different place. He's totally changed his life. It's incredible. It's really amazing. He's in a
00:39:40great place. I'll show you pictures and I'll tell you what he's doing. It's really cool.
00:39:44Beth Dombkowski I love that. Last I heard,
00:39:46I'll tell you off air, of course, he was one of my favorites. I mean, in the 80s,
00:39:51there were like four guys. I'm glad I loved Ron Jeremy. Glad I fucking liked working with him,
00:39:58which I did actually. He's today one of my dearest friends. I happen to love him. He's a great guy.
00:40:05Peter North, of course. But then from that 90s era, I loved working with Mark Davis,
00:40:11Stephen St. Croix, T.T. Boy, pretty much everyone. I loved Vince Voyer. There were so many great
00:40:21guys. Beth Dombkowski
00:40:21Yeah. And it was different back then because you were working with guys before Viagra came around,
00:40:26right? That must have been a whole different ballgame because now you've got a lot more
00:40:33guys in the industry. And still, it's still very difficult for guys. And Viagra isn't the
00:40:38come all, it's not the cure all because you have to actually get there. And there's still guys
00:40:42who can't perform when they take Viagra, but it's definitely made a big difference. So
00:40:46what was it like before that came around? Guys really had to get their dick hard without any
00:40:53help from any medical? Beth Dombkowski
00:40:55I don't know because they always were hard. So I have no idea. But in their own mind,
00:41:00who knows what they were thinking when they came on set with a hard cock? Who knows? I don't know
00:41:05what they were thinking. I think I don't want to know. Whatever it was, it worked.
00:41:10Did you ever have issues? I mean, do you remember like issues of guys just like
00:41:14not being able to do it? Like not working with maybe a new guy that just couldn't finish and
00:41:21somebody else could come in? Beth Dombkowski
00:41:22There was a guy in Hot in the City in 1989 when I made my comeback. And he was so cute. And we
00:41:27did stills, I think for Ron Vogel. Beautiful, great cock, hard. But it was Ron Vogel, myself,
00:41:35and the guy. Maybe the makeup artist was floating around. So I remember saying,
00:41:39oh my God, I want him in my movie. He's so sexy. He's bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. And he's like,
00:41:43oh, great. Gets on set and you got cameraman, you got the boom operator, you got the sound guy,
00:41:48you got the catering, you got blah, blah, blah. The list goes on. And he couldn't get it up.
00:41:53And I'm like, oh, he's so fucking cute. He couldn't get it up and you had to do the fake
00:42:01comma shot, you know, the condensed milk and the straw and...
00:42:05Marie Forleo No, I don't know.
00:42:06Beth Dombkowski Oh.
00:42:06Marie Forleo Because we use Cetaphil.
00:42:08Beth Dombkowski
00:42:11We had to get the condensed milk, mix it with sugar, put it in a cup and then Tina Marie,
00:42:18who was directing, was like sucking it through the straw and she's like, you know,
00:42:22hold your tits together. And I'm like, oh, all over. Yes. Oh, licking it up.
00:42:30Marie Forleo This is like live action video with the
00:42:32straw just off camera.
00:42:34Beth Dombkowski Yeah. And she just squirted it all over.
00:42:36Marie Forleo Okay, this is something I'm going to
00:42:38remember this because I might need to use this one day. Condensed milk and sugar.
00:42:43Beth Dombkowski Yeah. I don't know where she came up with that or why. And again,
00:42:46I never complained. I'm like, okay, I don't know, throw anything on me. I'll fucking lick it up.
00:42:50I was such like a wimp. Okay.
00:42:52Marie Forleo I would say more like team player.
00:42:55Beth Dombkowski You know what? It was just at that
00:42:57point too, I'm like, just fucking get this fucking shoot over.
00:42:59Marie Forleo Yeah.
00:43:00Beth Dombkowski Now I'm done. Just fucking spray
00:43:02something on me. Let's go to fucking Tom Byron. He'll get it up for me. God damn it.
00:43:08Lunch is going to be here in half an hour. But there were what Nick, this guy who I don't
00:43:14remember in hotness and you never saw, he was like a one dud wonder. I don't think he ever
00:43:18worked again. And then Nick East, there were like maybe three times, four. Harry Reams toward the
00:43:27end. He couldn't get it up. You know, he had allergies.
00:43:31Marie Forleo Oh, I see. Allergies. He's
00:43:35allergic to sobriety.
00:43:36Beth Dombkowski Bless his heart. He was amazing.
00:43:40But toward the end, he had the allergy thing going on. And I never took it personally. I
00:43:45know it was like, oh, aren't I cute? No, it's never my fault.
00:43:48Marie Forleo No, no, of course not.
00:43:50Beth Dombkowski Perfect.
00:43:50Marie Forleo Was there a lot more drugs on the set
00:43:52back then?
00:43:52Beth Dombkowski Never, never. And that is such a misconception.
00:43:56In all my career, starting from 84, and I think I hung up my film stuff in like 97,
00:44:04um, one person offered me drugs on a set. One. I said yes. But it was 1984. You know,
00:44:15and it was like, but other than that, no, no, never, ever, ever. Sometimes girls drank on set,
00:44:22which I never did. I mean, once I got to like, you know, my second phase in 89, I never drank
00:44:27or did drugs on set. But no, it was not prevalent in my period.
00:44:32Marie Forleo Interesting, because I mean,
00:44:34it definitely it's not a huge thing now. I know that a lot of people have a misconception that
00:44:38there's a ton of drugs on set in porn movies. And, and I mean, now everyone's stoned. But
00:44:45I mean, there's not really, it's not really been a massive issue. Every once in a while I run into
00:44:49it, but it's not a huge problem. But I did hear that, you know, back in the 80s, just because
00:44:53everyone was doing cocaine in the 80s. It was like, a thing that that was it was more prevalent
00:44:58on sets back then. But that that wasn't your experience?
00:45:00No, nope. I mean, I for a few months got into it. But it wasn't on set it I would stay up with
00:45:08Heather Wayne, if you remember that. And we would have but again, after like two months, I'm like,
00:45:14fuck, I got to keep my head in the game. Yeah, I'm either gonna get eaten up or I'm gonna you
00:45:19either get used or you use it. And I thought I'm not gonna be a victim. I'm gonna use that,
00:45:23you know, and then once I stopped, I never did it again. Yeah, but it wasn't even like,
00:45:27oh, I'm gonna sneak it on to set and da da da. And I remember Jim South was like,
00:45:32stop it, Christy. Whatever you're doing, you're losing your tits. Stop losing weight because
00:45:38you're known for your tits. I'm like, you know, like, no. So I never once I quit,
00:45:42I never got into it. And I never, you know, Vivid Girls. Oh, no, you just didn't do it.
00:45:48And you didn't want to lose that Golden Goose ticket of being a Vivid Girl.
00:45:51Yeah.
00:45:52You know, so no, I don't think so.
00:45:54No.
00:45:54Not in my experience, a little bit in the 80s, but no.
00:45:58Right. So one person that we haven't brought up, which is kind of interesting, is my mother.
00:46:03I love your mother.
00:46:05Suze Randall, who I know shot you. So do you have any, like, what was it like working with her?
00:46:13She was the best. I mean, there were very few girls that shot girls. I mean, I think Suze
00:46:20Randall and Blanca. Do you remember Rudy and Blanca? It was a husband and wife team.
00:46:25Absolutely not.
00:46:26Your mom, though, they were, you know, just like a brief little stint. Your mom,
00:46:32though, and I'm not just saying this, she was amazing. Such an artist, such a visionary.
00:46:39Everything was perfect. She had the best hair and makeup artist. I mean, we, like,
00:46:44somebody, that beautiful photo that you tweeted out of me, that was your mom's shot, of course.
00:46:50And somebody said, oh, my God. Well, I think the girl I had on my show the other day, she's like,
00:46:53you're so beautiful there. I'm like, that's three hours of hair and makeup. Okay. I don't take all
00:47:00the credit. I mean, you got there at whatever, eight in the morning, and then you started
00:47:05shooting at maybe 11 or 12. She, your mom, was a perfectionist. The test shoots, she had the
00:47:13the assistants that would help. And I just remember, you felt beautiful on her sets.
00:47:21You wanted to make love to that camera. You wanted to impress Suze Randall. You wanted
00:47:26her to want you. You wanted her to lick your pussy after. You wanted her, which apparently
00:47:32she did sometimes.
00:47:35Scratch that. But no, like, you, she made you want to be your best. She had that wonderful
00:47:41energy, and she'd be there on the ground with the camera, and oh, darling, spread those legs
00:47:47for me. Like, oh, God, yes, I want to spread them. You know, like, whatever she told you to
00:47:53do, you'd want to. She just was, at her era, was one of the best photographers. Her and Stephen
00:48:02Hicks. Those were the two. And you know what? Who doesn't love Ron Vogel? But Stephen Hicks and
00:48:08your mom got the best out of me in shoots. And it all started because you'd show up, and you felt
00:48:14like a princess. You know, because you'd go to some shoots, and they'd have crappy, cheap makeup
00:48:21artists, you know, and you'd be like, okay, let's go.
00:48:24That makes a huge difference. And I'm still, I'm very picky about my makeup artists as well. I only
00:48:29have, like, three that I work with. One that I pretty much work with all the time. And it's
00:48:36everything, man. A good makeup artist is everything.
00:48:38Right. She was great, though. Your mom was just amazing. Everything she shot of me, and my fans,
00:48:47or you've seen the stills, there's not one bad set. There isn't one bad, there's probably not
00:48:54even one bad still. Negative. Do you know? I mean, and if there was, it was because it was my fault,
00:48:59and I was blinking or something. But she just was, and the, okay, hair, makeup, we covered.
00:49:04The wardrobe. I don't know what they do now, but I mean, your mom would have racks of wardrobe.
00:49:12Okay, put on, you know, the purple, put on the purple leotard with the slit in your pussy,
00:49:18or, you know, that kind. And like, it just, you felt like you were on a Vogue set, or, you know,
00:49:23and as an 18-year-old, and we all came in with a little chip on our shoulder, not that I have
00:49:28any victim stories, I was never abused or anything like that. But, you know, it was the 80s. Why are
00:49:33you in this business? Okay, well, I'm in it because I have some kind of issues I need to clear up.
00:49:38Whatever. It wasn't a big deal. But like, you just felt safe with your mom, and you felt like she
00:49:43cared. Which she did. It's not, I felt it. She cared about us. She loved us. Yeah. She really did.
00:49:49Yeah. She's, she's very protective over her girls, and I learned how to treat models from her. I
00:49:56remember she told me that, you know, the model is the most important person in the room. You always
00:50:00make sure they're fed, they're hydrated, they're as comfortable as they can be. Like, you know,
00:50:05very, I definitely learned from the best, and I feel very fortunate for that.
00:50:09Right. And that makes such a difference.
00:50:12Yeah. It's crazy because, you know, these, when I first started in the industry, I was
00:50:17Suze Randall's daughter, and that's all I was. And now, like, people don't know who she is anymore.
00:50:22Now it's like Suze Randall is Holly's mom.
00:50:26Oh, yeah. I've shopped for Holly. Who's her mom? You know?
00:50:29Yeah. Yeah. Do you have any crazy stories about her?
00:50:32God, crazy stories.
00:50:35Or any interesting ones that kind of stick out in your mind?
00:50:40I know that she was very fond of Tracy. There was a shoot in Mexico.
00:50:44Yes.
00:50:44And I remember there were a bunch of us in Mexico,
00:50:47and we could hear your mom and Tracy all night long.
00:50:50That sounds about right.
00:50:52Yeah. And I'd be like, I want to be in that room.
00:50:55Why did they invite me in that room? That was the only time I thought of using the
00:51:00don't you know who I am card. But I remember it was just echoing down the halls of this house.
00:51:05Yeah. My mom was very sexual.
00:51:08Yes.
00:51:08Very funny. Yeah. And totally bi.
00:51:10And she really had that wonderful relationship with Tracy more than any of us.
00:51:15Yeah.
00:51:15But that was probably the only one where I saw, like, a different side of her.
00:51:22With her and I, it was pretty much very, you know, model and photographer related.
00:51:28Yeah.
00:51:28I mean, she'd come over and be like, spread those pussy lips. And, you know,
00:51:34you know, like when moms, like, do the kid's hair, she'd be like that with my pussy hair.
00:51:39Yeah. Tara Patrick says that she just has,
00:51:42remembers her coming in with like a Q-tip that was dipped in baby oil,
00:51:45and it was like, would put the baby oil on her.
00:51:47How funny. No, she just used her, you know.
00:51:50God, that would be so not okay on set these days. I've never touched a model down there.
00:51:58I would never in a million years do that. It's so funny. It's so different now.
00:52:03It is, but I loved it.
00:52:04Yeah.
00:52:05Oh, it was like, great. Okay. You know, she'd be like, darling,
00:52:08I need to trim some of that. You're very bushy. And she'd get her scissors and like,
00:52:13snip some of that pussy hair, you know, but she was ready to look better.
00:52:17Who am I to complain? I grew back.
00:52:19I remember my mom once sent her makeup artist backstage when she first started working for her,
00:52:28and she made her go, it was, Sam, why am I spacing on her last name? She works at Penthouse.
00:52:35Phillips.
00:52:36Yes, thank you. She made her go backstage and shave Sam Phillips' butthole.
00:52:42And I remember the makeup artist said to me, she's like, I didn't know that I could actually
00:52:45say no to that. I didn't realize that I could say no until later.
00:52:49Okay. Your mom would have shaved mine.
00:52:52Yeah. Oh, totally.
00:52:53That's the difference. Now you probably couldn't even really ask a makeup artist to.
00:52:58Are you kidding me? If I asked my makeup artist to go shave some model's butthole,
00:53:02they would walk off set. There is no way.
00:53:04It's so different. Like, we used to use the Today sponges for that time of the month.
00:53:09And then, you know, you'd get this Today sponge up there,
00:53:13and then you'd have three scenes, and I'd be like, is that my ovary?
00:53:19What am I pulling in me? Because you'd be trying to, like, pull it out. And I'd finally be like,
00:53:23to the makeup artist, can you get that Today sponge out? I don't know if I'm pulling something
00:53:27of my, like, girly bits in there.
00:53:29Yeah, sometimes it gets shoved way up there.
00:53:31Oh, my God. And there would be the makeup artist, like, you know, almost, like, elbow deep.
00:53:36Here it is.
00:53:37I've actually, I think I did have to help a girl pull a sponge out of her once a long time ago.
00:53:42They would get jammed up in there. But I mean, your mom was just always amazing and professional.
00:53:50You know, she'd be there on time. And I mean, to her, it was just the greatest business. And she
00:53:55loved it. And she loved what she did. But that's it. Like, there were no, like, hey,
00:53:59stories like, oh, she offered me wine and nothing. She was professional and beautiful and made us
00:54:04feel special and like princesses. You know, I didn't have that bond with her like I know
00:54:10Ginger Lynn had. They actually had a different kind of a bond.
00:54:14Yeah, they were close.
00:54:16Very close, I know. And again, it's not for any other reason that I would kind of go there,
00:54:21do my thing, and then I'd leave. I always kept a separate, you know, we'd go out and have,
00:54:27you know, dinners together, not your mom and I, but some of the girls. But I never really,
00:54:31and I always had a boyfriend or something. Like, I never really hung out.
00:54:36I know my mom has this tendency to kind of like adopt people who she feels needs to be
00:54:42taken care of. Like people who need help, people have some kind of like, she's very much like she
00:54:48likes to scoop up broken birds and she likes to try to fix people's lives. She's very much
00:54:53busy body in other people's lives.
00:54:55Yes, because I know she was great when Ginger was going through a lot of stuff. And Ginger
00:54:59said the stories on air, you know, that kind of thing.
00:55:01Oh, yeah. No, Ginger's told me.
00:55:02Yeah. And I love that about her. Yeah. But she was just amazing to work with. I love your mom.
00:55:09And then I've interviewed her a few times on Playboy and your dad once, who I never met.
00:55:14Oh, wait, I did meet him because I stayed at your house when you were seven.
00:55:18In that big, beautiful house.
00:55:20We still, I live there still.
00:55:22Wow, I love that. That house was so beautiful. And I remember staying there when your mom was
00:55:28shooting me. She shot me a couple times for Playboy TV back in that 85 era. I think it was
00:55:35just kind of like TNA softcore even. I don't even remember what with Pippi or Pippa, the cute blonde
00:55:43from Sweden.
00:55:44The Swedish girl.
00:55:45Right. And we got up and Blake Palmer and we were in like a red convertible Cadillac or
00:55:51I don't know. It was like, I mean, I'm going back 35 years, you know, but it was just like,
00:55:56there's such snippets. But I remember sleeping in a little twin bed upstairs.
00:56:00Okay.
00:56:02Because we had to leave really early or something.
00:56:04Yeah, that sounds about right.
00:56:05But just great memories, just really good memories with your mom.
00:56:08Oh, that's great to hear.
00:56:09But Tarz and I, I will.
00:56:11Nothing, you know, nothing that stands out like her and Tracy's relationship, you know,
00:56:15nothing like that.
00:56:16Yeah. Yeah, no, I definitely will. She's like I was telling you before the show,
00:56:20she's exactly the same. She hasn't changed at all.
00:56:23And she never will.
00:56:25She's still got like an insane amount of energy. She's like, what, 73 now or something like that.
00:56:30Rides like three horses a day. Like, I mean, you know, she lost an eye.
00:56:34I did hear that.
00:56:36To one of her horses, but just didn't slow her down at all.
00:56:39No.
00:56:39She's exactly the same. And we've got, you know, we've got a guy writing a script about her. So
00:56:45hoping to make it into a movie.
00:56:47And definitely give him my number.
00:56:49I will for sure.
00:56:50You know, and that's the other thing too, like if he has certain questions, I know more. But I mean,
00:56:54I think I shot for your mom at least a dozen or two times.
00:56:57Yeah. We've got a lot of stuff of you on SuzeNet.
00:57:01In case you missed that Suze.net.
00:57:03Suze.net.
00:57:04Yeah, a lot of that great stuff.
00:57:06Yeah. And I had you sign quite a few pictures for my loyal members of my Patreon. So you guys
00:57:12will get some really cool vintage Christy Canyon photos.
00:57:16What we call a classic.
00:57:18Classic. Very classic.
00:57:20They are vintage. They are.
00:57:20No, it's crazy.
00:57:22Christy, thank you so much for coming on.
00:57:24Oh my God, you're welcome. I will do this any time. And if you ever want to come on my Vivid
00:57:28Radio show, let me know.
00:57:30Where is that again?
00:57:31Ah, Vivid Radio, Sirius XM channel 415, Monday through Friday. No. And I love it. Like,
00:57:39I love how I've been at Vivid since 1990.
00:57:42Yeah.
00:57:42I have never, you know, I have to say I've been so wonderfully coddled my entire 35 years in this
00:57:50business. I mean, Jim South was my agent who would have fucking slayed dragons for me. You
00:57:55know, then I went to Vivid. Then I was at Playboy for 10 years, and I never left Vivid. Like,
00:58:02I've always been so coddled, which has made me just keep loving this business. Do you know what
00:58:08I mean?
00:58:08Yeah.
00:58:09I've never really had that, you know, doggy dog and fight for what I want, you know?
00:58:15Yeah, and it sounds like you had kind of a fairytale experience.
00:58:19It was. It really, like, I never had to, like, fight for anything. Someone just always did it
00:58:25for me. Not the fucking, but like...
00:58:29You did it all yourself. You can take all that credit.
00:58:33But like, I never, like, people are like, oh, why don't you start your own company? And
00:58:37why? I don't want to fucking have to worry about insurance and locations and business.
00:58:42Believe me, I run my own company, and it is a bitch and a half.
00:58:45And I never went that route. I always liked someone. Okay, Christy, you got three scenes,
00:58:51show up at this location. Okay, great. That kind of thing. You know, I'm just like a little
00:58:56follower when it comes to that. I never wanted to take on all that fucking responsibility.
00:59:01All I wanted to do was have great sex, have fun, and get a couple bucks out of it.
00:59:06Yeah. And look where it's brought you.
00:59:07Yeah. Here, on your show.
00:59:10Yay. All right. Well, thank you again, Christy. Can you tell everybody where they can find you
00:59:15on social media? And you have a website, too, right?
00:59:18I do. ChristyCanyon.com, which Vivid runs. They even got stuck running my fucking website.
00:59:25Poor guys. Those poor people.
00:59:27Then they, like, licensed out to Gamma, right?
00:59:30Yes.
00:59:30And they're like, okay, and you get Christy Canyon's website. They're like, fuck,
00:59:34yeah. And she gets 100%. And they're like, what? And they're like, that's our deal.
00:59:41I'm like the booby prize.
00:59:42Wow, yeah.
00:59:43I know, like, you know? So you could go to ChristyCanyon.com, and the only social media
00:59:49that I have is my Twitter, which is ChristyCanyon11. And that's it. So that's it. I don't
00:59:56do Instagram. I don't do Snapchat. I don't do premium chat. If I could, I'd still be doing
01:00:03MySpace. I don't like change. But that's it. That's it.
01:00:09Fantastic. And you guys can find me, Holly Randall, on Twitter and on Instagram. And
01:00:16if you have any feedback about this show, or you want to send me some guests, some questions,
01:00:21some comments, you can email me, hollyrandallunfilteredatgmail.com. Thank you, guys.
01:00:27Thank you.
01:00:28We'll see you next week.