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Video Information:16.08.2022, Goa University

Context:
Is Homosexuality wrong?
Why are society averse to sexuality?
Is sexuality an individual choice?

Music Credits: Milind Date
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Transcript
00:00You spoke of not giving a lot of importance to the body because after all we are not the
00:13body and we are consciousness.
00:15What would you say in cases of maybe homosexuality wherein society has laid its own conditions,
00:22the body is giving its own directions and in this case probably the direction of the
00:26body would be my own direction, like would be my own decision.
00:31How do you think?
00:32I am not talking of not giving importance to the body.
00:38What I am saying is know what the body is and that knowledge will tell you how important
00:43the body is, right?
00:45You cannot wish away your neighbor, can you?
00:48And the body is a lifelong neighbor.
00:51We are born wedded to the body.
00:56The body is a lifelong spouse.
01:00You are born with the spouse.
01:03So it's impossible to not to give importance to it.
01:06But you must know exactly how important and in which case, in what fields, in which direction.
01:17If I am sweating on my forehead, it would be not really an act of bravado or wisdom
01:25to say, oh this is not me, so I will not wipe it out.
01:28I would rather pick the towel and say, fine, be done with it and continue with the discussion.
01:35The thing is about giving the body its right place, not letting it dominate your life.
01:44We are not talking of being cruel to the body.
01:48We are not talking of ignoring the body or being oblivious to its natural needs.
01:56You have to clean it, you have to feed it and the human body is a very delicate thing
02:03compared to that of the animals.
02:06It requires a lot of maintenance.
02:07It has to be provided all that medical care.
02:12When it comes to what the society says and all that, on issues like homosexuality, you
02:23see, to whom is the society?
02:27Again, the society is to the body, right?
02:31The one who knows the right place of the body also knows the right place of the society.
02:39And if the society starts talking too much, you say, when I do not listen even to myself,
02:48how will I listen to you?
02:50Who the hell are you to lord over me?
02:55But that does not mean that you quit listening to others and start following your own dictates.
03:10One has to be extremely careful here.
03:14This kind of pseudo-rebellion will not help.
03:20What is the body?
03:21The body is an equipment that always looks at the outside.
03:27The body is looking at this, this, this, this, this, this, this.
03:32So even when you want to rebel, if your body identified, you will rebel against this, this,
03:38this, this, this, this and outside of you is the society.
03:43So you can very well anoint yourself as a great rebel because you are violating the
03:53norms of the society and you can feel very happy.
03:57I am a great rebel.
03:58I am going against the society.
03:59Alright, you are going against the society.
04:02But are you able to go against yourself?
04:06No.
04:07Because that knowledge, that realization, that insight you do not have.
04:14So especially as young people, we love to flout social norms and in the process we became
04:24slaves to ourselves.
04:29I say, I have a tendency to live my life this way.
04:35Even if the society does not allow me, I will not listen to the society.
04:40Why?
04:41Very fine.
04:44But what is worse?
04:46Having a master stand there outside of yourself or having a master sit in here within yourself?
04:58What's worse?
04:59Please tell me.
05:04A fellow with dubious intentions and a gun, where do you want him?
05:13Outside your door or inside your door?
05:17That's what.
05:18Young people love to rebel against the one outside the door.
05:22But if the one outside the door manages to sneak in and starts posturing as an insider
05:33to the house, a family member, then we say, welcome, welcome.
05:40You are me.
05:42I will follow what you say.
05:45I'll have no eyes to see that this that I'm calling as within, this that I'm calling as
05:53myself is actually something alien, foreign, embedded inside my system.
06:02It is not me.
06:07It is the outside masquerading as the inside.
06:12That we do not know.
06:15So a lot of these new age issues, I think, have to be seen in that light.
06:23You know, you talk of freedoms to live your life the way you want to.
06:28My question is, what is this you?
06:33You say, my life, my choice, well said, perfectly agreeable.
06:42But what do you mean by my?
06:46What do you mean by my?
06:49I read somewhere, when it comes to sexual orientations, there was this demand that the
06:57society by way of its education system is imposing heterosexuality on kids.
07:07They said, you see, all the stories that you feed your kids are about a man and a woman.
07:13So the kids are being artificially taught to be heterosexual.
07:19So what you need to do is that, right from the age of five or something, you need to
07:25expose the kids to various alternate forms of sexuality.
07:30You need to tell the kid, you know, you can make out with a girl or a boy or whatever.
07:39I do not know whether this is freedom.
07:43It is for you to think.
07:48When you say my life, my choice, what exactly does that mean?
07:53To choose one has to know, right?
08:01Just after this, obviously we have some refreshments served outside.
08:06There is sipitaka and toka toka.
08:09What would you like to have?
08:14What would you like to have?
08:20But if you are given that choice, you know, the two things are kept in front of you, sipitaka
08:24and toka toka, you would pick up one of them.
08:29Now how would you make the choice?
08:32In absence of knowledge, how does the choice get made?
08:37What others are having, the one that has a more tempting aroma, the one that looks more
08:44like food porn, right?
08:53Now that's how our choices are made in absence of self-knowledge.
08:58And then we say, well, this is my sexual orientation.
09:00How do you know?
09:01Do you know the body?
09:03Do you know what this thing called sex is?
09:06Is it just something physical or does it have a psychological rather spiritual dimension
09:12to it?
09:14Do you know any of these?
09:19On the other side are those who are proudly calling themselves normal because they are
09:26heterosexual.
09:29What is normal?
09:30Even rapists are heterosexuals.
09:33Does that make them normal?
09:39What do you mean by the norm?
09:42Do you have to be healthy or do you have to be normal?
09:49There was COVID.
09:51In a family of eight, seven are infected.
09:55Now do you want to be healthy or normal?
09:59If you are normal, then you would be one of them.
10:01You would be the eighth one.
10:05You understand what norm means?
10:08What is norm?
10:13That which everyone is doing, the state that most people are in is the norm.
10:19Want to be normal?
10:20No.
10:21You want to be healthy.
10:22And then in this age of sickness, health is abnormal.
10:30Is it not?
10:35Just because you are doing something that everybody else does, does not make you some
10:38kind of winner.
10:43Homosexuality, heterosexuality, this, that.
10:52What is sex first of all?
10:55No clarity.
10:58You get to a certain age, you start feeling a certain attraction, it's arising from
11:03the body and the social influences and you are just carried away by the current.
11:11We will talk of the normal kind and the alternate kind later on.
11:17First of all, do we understand the body?
11:20Do we understand who we are?
11:23Do we understand why this force called sex is so compelling?
11:32We just want to raise slogans on this side or that side of the divide.
11:51This was not the answer you wanted.

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