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00:05Everybody what is up? I'm George Massey. It's gonna be the George Massey show. It's all
00:10Part one no limits after show
00:13Tonight was crazy, right? So we went on to our apps to stream the show. You guys know I stream the show and
00:21No show so it's been a little crazy because we've been trying to figure out how to watch the show
00:27So tonight I had to watch the show live which I haven't done in years legitimately in years, so
00:39Commercials which was not okay
00:40But you know
00:42We got to watch it
00:43Hopefully everybody at home got to watch it because I do
00:45Realize that some people cut the cord the only reason hey, Deb. The only reason why even
00:53Hey
00:57That wouldn't be the first weird thing to happen today, right like I was watching commercials like it was like the 90s, right
01:04I was like, well done. I know we're getting started. Yeah, this is Willow
01:13Everybody
01:15Congratulate my co-host Cara. She has just become I don't want to call you a grandma. You're too cool
01:22I'll be grandma. I'll be whatever
01:25We
01:27Word, huh? Oh, no, I don't I don't want to ever be called the G word until I'm like 70 or 80
01:41So happy for you, I know this is a huge event for you
01:45I remember when you told me that your daughter was expecting
01:49And you
01:53And she was
01:59Bigger yeah, that's a big gosh
02:03Congratulations
02:05Congratulations. I know we will be seeing more of Willow very soon
02:10So I want to get your reactions first of all on the house the house was in New Jersey was really beautiful
02:16This was in December. It was cold and snowing but um, Angela and Michael did not stay in the house
02:22So we got everybody minus Angela and Michael. So what were your idea and thoughts on the scenes in the house?
02:29I was expecting more. I mean obviously, um after they filmed day one, you know, these tell us take up to three days
02:35They're gonna go back to the house and that's probably where all the tensions will go
02:39But they were pretty tame right with the drinks flowing. There wasn't a lot of real honest feelings coming out, right?
02:45Jasmine did say I don't want to hug you. It's an ad but I can't even hold that against her
02:50Nobody wants to hug that man, right?
02:52Like honestly the heartless of one of them all if you're gonna be mean to somebody you got to be mean to Ed
02:56It's just part of the deal. Yeah, I
02:58Could be mean to Ed. Nobody called it out better than Emily though when she said
03:04Angela doesn't want to come because she doesn't want anyone to hear Michael talk
03:08She's not wrong. She nailed it
03:11Right and you notice anytime Sean or anybody asked Michael a question
03:15He couldn't get anything out because I noticed everybody I said it to one on X or Twitter
03:20I was like every time he tries to answer a question or explain anything. She doesn't let him talk
03:24It's like oh, I'm sick of you making it seem like you're such a nice guy
03:28And I was like, I don't really think Michael's just a super nice guy
03:32Like I never once thought that Michael was just this innocent nice human being that did nothing wrong
03:39I honestly do believe
03:41Michael has some shady stuff going on, right? Like I think he's always he has
03:46Like I don't know why she's under the impression that we think that he's an angel and she's just this evil bitch
03:52Like I don't know why she thinks that we're we're one-sided on this
03:55We think both of them have issues, right? Like I thought that's where we all landed Angela's got issues
04:01Michael's got issues and together. They're just a hot-ass mess, right? Yeah together
04:05Yeah, but I think separately he's I think he's a really good person who's put up with a lot of bullshit
04:12Yeah, I also think it's time. I think it's time for her to retire that sexy necklace
04:21Look bad she she did she cannot talk in a normal voice
04:27every time she talks she has to be screaming like
04:32But I'm with everybody else like I've always said if anybody on 90-day fiance across the board
04:39Michael deserves that green
04:45He deserves it
04:47You know when you it's like a contractor you give them half the money up front and then if they complete the job
04:54You give them the rest and I feel like he completed the job. He has to get his payment. Is this um
05:00Deposit back like he completed the job. He should get that the green card and again
05:04She wants everybody to know what happened and it's like same with Ed to like everybody wants everyone to know what happened
05:09But I'm I don't understand why they believe that we're only gonna listen to their side because like as like
05:15Oh you have to deal with your issues
05:17She does but you have to deal with your issues, too
05:20And it's like you can't just blame and project all of the issues of a failed relationship or more person
05:25I feel like Ed and Angela ironically they were befriending of each other at the tell-all
05:29They're both doing that. They're projecting all of the issues and failed
05:33The failed relationship the failed marriage all the money issues. It's all one person's issue. They wouldn't it's not a couple
05:40That's the best 90-day couple
05:43Angela and Ed. Yes, I mean
05:52Do you believe okay, so here's another question
05:54Do you believe that Angela and Ed are capable not together?
05:57Just like individuals as people are they capable of having a healthy relationship? Oh, I don't think that right now
06:04They wouldn't
06:06Understand what a healthy relationship looks like and I think that
06:10When you don't know what a healthy relationship is or looks like it's not surprising that you've never been in one
06:15Yeah, right, and I think that Angela, you know, she's explained it many times. She's never felt love
06:20She's never been in a good relationship and Ed is the same story and it's like you have to remember when your story always sounds
06:26One-sided some of the reason of why that story keeps happening to you belongs to you
06:32It's not always the other person
06:34I know that's really difficult because you don't want to ever look at yourself. Is there something wrong with me?
06:39But when the same situation repeats itself over and over and over to you
06:44I know it's hard to place blame on yourself, but sometimes you're picking people to hurt you, right?
06:50Yeah, exactly clean. It's um, she says that they sabotage itself sabotage
06:54yeah, you pick a person, you know is not gonna be good for you because
06:58Subconsciously, this is the type of person that you think you want to be with and I think Angela and Ed are a perfect example
07:04Of picking the wrong types of people and I don't even want to say that Liz is the wrong type of person
07:09I think Ed looks for a woman that he knows has self-esteem and self-worth issues
07:14And he preys on that and then he tears her down completely to the point where she doesn't think that she
07:20Deserves happiness and then he's locked into that relationship. But I think that's the most
07:26disgusting
07:28so horrible thing that you can do to a person not just a woman a man to like
07:32To tear someone down and make them feel like they deserve that way that you're treating them. It's just crazy to me. Yeah, I
07:38agree, so
07:40Wait, Sophie and Robert drove in together, but she wanted to come in the house separately. So I'm gonna get your
07:47She wanted to play it off as if they didn't show up together, they're not together. We already know her little bullshit that
07:54You need to go sit down some damn where I can't stand her
07:58So you believe that too because I was like they surely showed up together their luggages in the same car
08:03She's like, oh, I need a minute. I was like, it's 30 degrees in New Jersey right now
08:06You really need a minute or you just want people to think you came in a separate vehicle than he did
08:11And I strongly believe that because I feel like Sophie has always been trying to leave her options open
08:17Since she got here like she's like she tells Rob like oh we need to work on things and then she doesn't call him for
08:22Three months and it's like how are you working on things?
08:25If you don't call the person for three months and you're living with somebody else you're outliving your best life
08:29He doesn't even know which apartment you live in
08:32But I also feel he wanted to come in alone so that she had the grand entrance of everybody
08:37Oh
08:38Sophie and give her all the attention if she came in with Rob then it was hi Rob and Sophie not just hi Sophie and
08:44She's got to be that center of attention all the freaking time. I noticed that too
08:48I noticed also, um general says I thought that I read that they were not together
08:53She kind of said at this tell-all she was like, we're kind of just here as friends
08:57I don't know if you caught that
08:58Yeah
08:58But she was talking I think to Ashley and she was like because they're like are you together?
09:02Are you like working it out? She was just kind of like we're kind of just here as friends
09:07We're just hanging out and I feel like that's kind of what their relationship has been since she got here
09:11I don't think it's ever been a real relationship and we're finding out that a lot of these couples weren't even having sex which
09:16Are you married if you're not and I know the ongoing meme is if you're married, you're not supposed to be having sex
09:22But these are younger, right?
09:24These are younger people this is that that mean it applies to people who've been married for 20 plus years
09:30Not people who've been married for less than a year. Yeah, so I'm really confused as to why
09:36It's like for instance, you know and Jasmine weren't having sex she said he said six months she said eight months and
09:45Well, they wait
09:49When she first sat down she said she'd been here for seven months Gino hasn't been working for seven months
09:55It was seven months seven months seven months. Then somebody said how long has it been since you guys had sex?
09:59She says eight months, but you know said that um, they asked how long that they had been married and Gino said almost a year
10:07Yeah, so when was it?
10:10Be on then. Yes. She got married here. Yeah, right. It was in Michigan. So I'm confused. You're right
10:16I'm very confused by the timeline because she's definitely been here more than seven months because she physically here for the last hello
10:23Yeah
10:25Confused unless our these shows overlapped because I have heard that
10:29Filming of these shows can overlap. You can be filming more than one show like for instance with Robin
10:35we were talking about that happening because it was back-to-back just like with the single life and this one where
10:42John was on both they overlap
10:46Yeah, yeah, you're right they've been married almost a year because they asked um, that's what I'm
10:53Elect not Alexis, but um, what's his name? Um, uh, Colby and
11:04Yeah, Patrick that cuz I asked him how long y'all been married and he said almost a year
11:13Yeah, yeah, I mean maybe they didn't want them to give the real dates because they would we would figure out yeah
11:20That the shows are overlapping. But I mean, we're not stupid right? Like we know what's going on
11:25It's very easy to tell you know, what's going on and what's not with these people, you know, we know that this was filmed in
11:32December right? I'm pretty sure December was when it was filmed
11:34It was like or January because I think it was a month after Michael
11:37Yeah arrived, you know, he got here in December right before Christmas. So we saw that on the show
11:42So we know for a fact, you know when this was I don't know why they're trying to make it seem like we can't
11:48Be together and whenever we already know that him and Angela ain't even together even at the tell-all they wasn't even together
11:55Yeah, cuz he had already left. Yeah
11:57Yeah, and you realize they arrived separately at the tell-all
12:02Angela arrived after Michael it was so obvious and they're trying to really play it off as though we can't figure out what's going on
12:09And the reason why they didn't arrive at the house the night before
12:12Michael says is because they were fighting but I think it's more so because Angela knows
12:16He was going to arrive and he was gonna have time alone
12:20With other cast members where he could tell them his side of the story because if you notice we've never heard it
12:26Yeah, Angela goes live. She goes and does her thing on social media
12:30She tells everybody every part of every ounce of information about what went wrong with her and Michael
12:35Michael's never said anything and
12:37I think it's it scares the hell out of her to think that he can actually tell his side and people will listen
12:44If you notice when when Sean tried to ask Michael questions, she was like shut up shut the hell up stop talking
12:51Don't she didn't want him to say anything at all?
12:53And you know if you didn't do anything wrong if you're a victim
12:56There's nothing that anybody could say to make you look like a bad person because you're honestly a victim right in this situation
13:02You didn't do anything, but I feel like she's really shielding his side of the story and it that can only last for so long
13:08Yeah, eventually somebody is gonna give them a place to talk
13:12Getting when he came in and he sat down with the introduced himself
13:16Everybody's so happy to meet him. Then she comes in and just starts attacking him immediately doesn't say hi to anybody else
13:22Just comes in and starts attacking him. This guy can't catch a break
13:28Well, Deb says they all went back home together from the tell-all he left in February, so yeah, you're right he did leave
13:35It was right before Valentine's Day. I believe is when the story broke that he was missing
13:40Quotient quotation marks. Yeah, so yeah, they probably went home for about a month after that, but it's hey Josh and Lily
13:47It's it's very obvious that they were not in a good place
13:50Watching the way that this was filmed so I can only imagine what was going on in that house
13:55For that month because the way that she spoke to him and treated him was just it was disturbing
14:02right like the look on everyone especially Lauren when when she's yelling and screaming and and
14:07Accusing him of cheating even Lauren's the look of uncomfortable, you know when you're watching somebody
14:13Bit literally go at it in front of a full room of strangers. I suppose to be real. They don't know each other that well
14:19It's really scary if that's the way that she behaved with other people around
14:24What do you think was going on in the house with the door closed with the blinds with the curtains pulled back?
14:29You know like what was really going on and Michael did an interview. Did you see his entertainment tonight interview that went out last week?
14:35Yeah, he was able to talk a little bit about things but he's still he's still leaving things very vague
14:42Like he would say that he doesn't um
14:45Blame her and he he doesn't regret coming here
14:48Like he was being really vague and I really wanted to hear what he really had to say
14:51But we have to remember the last resort hasn't aired so they have to save a lot of that real information
14:58for that show. Yeah, so
15:00This was a
15:01Interesting tell-all though because I felt like they got really deep into the the juicy stuff early
15:07So it makes me wonder what we're we're gonna encounter in the next four
15:12Parts right because getting the Ed and Liz and Jason thing out of the way first
15:16I thought was really ballsy, you know
15:18You would have a lot of good content to follow that up because you know
15:23Jason has been a secret for months every we're not dumb we knew but like they've been keeping him a secret for months
15:29So the fact that they brought him out front and center in the first part
15:33I was like, well, they must have some really good footage
15:35You know from the tell-all because that seemed like a part three or four scene right like in my opinion
15:41I was like, so if we're getting this all in Gino and Jasmine, we're in the first part
15:46I was like, so what's really gonna happen in part four, right?
15:54My question is is Jason gonna be in the house now, I hope so
15:59I don't I don't know. I haven't seen him in any of the clips, but that could be very intentional, right?
16:06That could be very intentional. So it's very
16:09Bring him out if he's not gonna be in the house. I mean
16:13Make him flying back home or make him stay in a hotel
16:17Yeah, and they just unveiled him tonight. So
16:20They couldn't show him and they they don't they don't a little plot twist there
16:25But I do have to say I was hoping when they brought Jason out because we all knew that he was gonna be there
16:32I was hoping when Jason came out that we were gonna see a little bit more than what we seen. I wasn't happy
16:48Like maybe a green room and you know where they all eat together and everything
16:52I feel like if he's still there and Liz is there and Ed is there it's very possible
16:57We'll see more interaction between the two of them
16:59And I know that Jason has a pretty he has a government type job
17:03So I know that he can't be on there physically fighting anyone or anything
17:07So I know that he has to keep his cool, but you could tell that he wanted to I could hear in his voice
17:12He was just so angry and he really wanted to put that guy in his place
17:17But I know you know when you're in the army or in the military you have those type of jobs
17:20you have to behave in a way more acceptable level of
17:25Professionalism than just you know anyone so I don't I get his frustration because imagine
17:31Coming face to face like Liz's mom
17:32She had to come face to face after he said stop abuse you abandoning your daughter and you should have raised her better
17:40Can you imagine like I would be terrified to come face to face to a mother that I said that to yeah
17:45Like I would have to I would need security
17:47I would need like
17:49Armed guards because the one thing you don't discuss
17:53Negatively about a woman especially to her face is the her parenting skills right like that's literally though
18:00That's not even the jugular. That's just like basically asking to get hurt now, so her coming on and keeping her cool
18:06I respect her too. You know she did say she wanted to end his life on TV
18:11Which you know I you can't do that, but I understand her frustration. I definitely know you know watching
18:17Her daughter go through that had to be
18:20Traumatic you know no parent wants to see their child make that type of mistake
18:24Yeah, and and that deep into a mistake like we're talking three four five years of a mistake with this guy
18:30So I'm just it's a light at the end of the tunnel for her, so I'm happy for Liz and
18:35And Jason and and I heard that they moved in together because I know they talked about it on the teller
18:40I heard that they are together in
18:43Washington State which good for them right I feel like
18:46Any any positive
18:49Progression I applaud you know we have to applaud people's
18:53Growth we always want to focus on their negative and their mistakes you have to also applaud growth
18:58She's grown, and you know she handled herself really well in the house
19:02And you know I think that it takes a real
19:06Good person in your life to see that your past relationships were bad, and I think that she's to them right
19:13Yeah
19:15Absolutely, so I want to talk about Jasmine and Gino in this
19:19Pornography thing because it's come up earlier in in the season, and it's back. Oh also wanted to say um
19:27Nicole and Mahmood weren't there which we already did but what did you think would have been?
19:33The in the atmosphere if they did come because somebody said this on online, and I thought about it
19:39Can you imagine if Nicole and Mahmood did show up, and I think that they would have caused a lot of
19:45riff-raff right because they both are really really
19:49Unable to accept criticism, so I was thinking I was like if they would have came
19:53It would have been like Angela 4.0 right because Mahmood first of all you can't criticize him in any way
19:59He snaps and then the coal is the same way, so I was like maybe it's it's a negative
20:04We didn't get them because things would have probably escalated really quickly because a lot of people
20:09I'm pretty sure her and Angela would have gotten to a fistfight
20:12Because you know I'm gonna throw it at her and then Nicole. She's just yeah
20:17Yeah, I'm surprised. I will be very surprised. I know they haven't showed it
20:22I mean shown it if it's gonna happen or not
20:24But I'm gonna be very surprised if Jasmine and Angela don't get into it. Oh
20:31It's coming I mean and I think Jasmine said it on her way in the house
20:35She was like any human being would have a problem getting along with her, so I think everybody
20:45Just reminded me of her comment if Gino bought me a house like this
20:49I guarantee all of our marital problems would disappear and the
20:54I
20:56Heard that big enough for her to sneak in Dane, and he can bang her head up again
21:01I
21:03Mean yeah, it's big enough, so she can sneak somebody in well
21:09It says a lot
21:11when you say that the biggest issues you have are you know intimacy and support and
21:18Independence and then in the same breath you say well if he would just buy me a big-ass house
21:23I'd look past all that it really does say a lot about what you expect your expectations in relationship
21:29And you know it basically shows that you're a gold digger
21:31Oh, I wanted to bring up something so apparently Jasmine posted a wish list online
21:36It's an Amazon wish list and it's for one say it's birthday. Which is coming up. Happy birthday one say if it has or hasn't
21:42I'm not sure but she listed a bunch of items on there
21:45And there was like a Nintendo switch like a you know like a hundred and ninety dollar item on there
21:49There are other stuff, too
21:50So I wanted to get your opinion and your thoughts on that is it some people were saying it is not okay
21:57To ask people to buy your kids birthday presents or Christmas presents, so I wanted to get your thoughts on that
22:03Do you think that you know it's okay for her to post that because let's be real when the item arrives
22:08In Panama, it's probably just gonna say to one say from mom
22:11It's not gonna say that somebody else bought it, so how do y'all feel about that?
22:15I can't believe she did it. I was I was absolutely disgusted to be honest
22:20I'm the same way. I can't that is that is wrong. That is wrong
22:25Another argument people were throwing at me were Brandon and Mary do it so why can't Jasmine and I'm thinking well Brandon and Mary
22:32Are like teenagers who have a brain and Mary are scammers. They scam everybody they'd lie about
22:40Everything I mean all the way down to about Mary having cancer
22:45I mean anything to scam people, so
22:49Jasmine's a grown-ass adult
22:51Yeah, right, right
22:53She's a grown-up adult with kids and a lot of people were just saying it's exploitive of your fans
22:59You know like to ask them to purchase something that I think in my opinion. She could buy herself
23:03I don't think Jasmine is hurting for any money
23:06Yeah, and I think I said this on once your booties podcast the other day
23:10I think what bothers me is when rich people try to take advantage
23:13You know I don't know if you really can't afford something, and you really need help
23:16I respect you if you have to ask for help because it took a lot
23:20Of courage to even ask, but if you could afford it yourself. You just don't want to buy it
23:24I think that bothers me more. Yeah, cuz it's like you you have the money you could afford it you are
23:30Fortunate enough to be doing well, but you still want to take advantage of other people's money
23:36But you still want to take advantage of other people and get something for free, and I think that irritates me even more
23:41She's got like 58 seasons of 90 Day Fiancé
23:46Money coming in like yeah, and then she has her only fans, too
23:52Yeah, and then she's got dang sending her money, so I mean come on. Then she's probably got all these other
23:58Sugar daddies that she's still talking to come on that woman got money. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's
24:04All right, we're gonna. We're gonna end now wait. You know what we didn't talk about the porn thing so she said that Gino is
24:11Watching porn and he's addicted to porn so I want to ask you this question
24:14What's the difference between consuming or watching porn and being addicted to porn because?
24:19America has a pandemic when it comes to pornography right like it's it's it's
24:23Overly accessible, and I know that there's recent laws that are trying to make it less acceptable
24:28But let's be realistic isn't working probably not so do you think that?
24:33Gino is legitimately addicted to porn or do you think that this is just something that jasmine is using
24:39To make it look less like their relationship is failing because of her actions or attitude
24:45Personally, I think he's an actual man
24:48that
24:49That that just watches porn
24:53Because he's not having sex with his wife and now let's be real jasmine's beautiful to look at from afar
24:59but
25:02But
25:03If I was locked in a house with her
25:06One of us wouldn't be coming out and it wouldn't be me
25:10well
25:11Gino actually said that he was like I thought I loved you and I thought you were beautiful
25:16And then I think after he got I think it's her attitude
25:20but but is it okay for her to have an attitude because this is another question because people another one people on
25:25Twitter were like if I hadn't been touched in eight months
25:28I would I would be pissed off too
25:30But so like do you it that would be one thing if she just got the attitude because she hasn't been touched in eight months
25:37She's been a bitch from the get-go. Like let's be real
25:42Yeah, because he gino did say in the beginning
25:44He would have sex with her even when they were angry or fighting and they weren't getting along and that that didn't work
25:48Her attitude never changed
25:50And do you also do you feel that gino is using sex or withholding sex as like a punishment?
25:57For her behavior because some people were saying that he's using
26:01Um, not having sex with her as a way to try to get her to better her attitude. Do you think that that's true?
26:07I mean if I was stuck in that position i'd be trying anything i'd be like something's got to change because i'm about ready
26:13Plastic bag and ship you off via the ocean
26:17Well, they're not sleeping. What it is too is because whenever jasmine was over there in panama
26:24Jasmine controlled everything
26:26Now jasmine's over here
26:29She's pissed because she can't control anything
26:33And gino has her right where he wants her because how she treated him. Um, whenever she was over there because
26:41Let's be real. She treated him like I mean she treated him like a dog. Oh, you know what i'm saying?
26:47I mean she she cheated on him. She done like how many times did she get in his face?
26:52And say really mean things to him and told him to his face that she um cheated on him and that um
27:00With with her eggs and he was a lot better than gino that so you gotta you you gotta take all that
27:06So whenever gino got her over here, I mean
27:10He's giving it back to her what she gave to him
27:13She's one of them that can dish it but dish it out, but she can't take it
27:17See and I totally agree I
27:19Absolutely agree with that when she made the comment that her ex is way better in bed
27:24That ruined everything like if your ex said that or if your girlfriend said that to you
27:30Can you imagine every time you had sex with that person? That's all you would think of that
27:35Good enough thinking about the other person. Yeah
27:39So
27:40You think that it's not necessarily he's withholding
27:44but he's legitimately just
27:47disgusted
27:48Yeah, that's it. Yeah, because that that's kind of what I felt too. I was like, it's not that he doesn't think she's beautiful physically
27:54I think he's just
27:55Disgusted by her actions and I think that now that he's gotten to fully know her, you know
28:01When she was in panama and he was in michigan
28:03He didn't know who she really was but now that she's here full time and he can see
28:08Her 24 7 every aspect of who she is. I think he realized I didn't know this person before I married her
28:14I didn't know this person before and now the person that I met that's here living in my house. I don't like this person
28:21Yeah, and I think that's kind of where he's at because if you let's be realistic
28:25If I don't like somebody we're not gonna be intimate. We're not even gonna hang out
28:29So and he's kind of in this right?
28:31He's in this situation where he's in a relationship living with a person that he doesn't even like
28:36yeah, and I think that's kind of why because they're like
28:39Patrick is like oh just being your wife and i'm like, I don't think he really considers her his wife
28:43It's not that easy. It's not that easy because if tice were to tell patrick that her ex
28:50Is better than him. Um patrick
28:53Have um sex with tice no more either
28:56because whenever when someone messes you up like that that tells you that
29:01They've cheated on you that their ex is better or they've had better or whatever the whatever it may be
29:09You're not going to want to be relate um intimate with them no more because
29:12Is all you can think about is where are they actually being intimate with me or are they being intimate with?
29:19This other person. Yeah, they're fantasy
29:25So
29:26I mean that's wrong on patrick because if patrick has never been through that then he don't need to talk. Yeah
29:32I agree. Well, it's funny that because patrick made a comment. He was like, I don't want to compare myself to everyone
29:39But we're just better and I was like
29:40So you really don't have any room to comment on these people's issues because if you don't have any major issues
29:46You can't really judge other people's issues because you don't even know what a real fight is
29:49Like the biggest fight he and thais had was him forcing her to facetime her dad to tell them they were going to get married
29:56Right, right
29:57Thais and patrick get along very very well like on it and if they do fight I would never know
30:02No, no one would ever see that and I don't think that they do really fight, you know
30:06Kind of like with emily and kobe do they fight?
30:09I don't think that they do they're like three babies in and a two and a half year marriage. They're they're not fighting
30:14Right, like they're they're doing things but they're definitely fighting so they're really good pickup sex
30:21Right, right. I feel like I don't know. I don't know anybody can't I don't know anybody better than ashley and and
30:27manuel manuel
30:30That is true
30:31Yeah, they're fighting all the time, but nothing seems to be unfixable with sex like in their opinion
30:38You know, whatever he does him scamming or stealing money. It's fine
30:42As long as they bang it out at the end of the night, they'll wake up and see another day
30:46And I also think that's a pretty toxic
30:49Situation to be in too. It's kind of like where
30:51There's a meme
30:53It's just like a little girl
30:54There's a house on fire and she's standing like in front of the house with a box of matches
30:58And just like smiling and it's kind of I felt like that you're leaving all of your problems to solve themselves and you're just fine
31:04what I feel like it
31:06was anybody else completely surprised by
31:10ashley's commentary
31:12like
31:13the shit she was saying
31:15Was good and it made sense and was like
31:19I i've never heard her make sense
31:21Actually through all of it and she was making sense with everyone else's relationship
31:27but
31:29Yeah
31:30I actually
31:31I sent out a tweet
31:33That said for the first time I can't find it now for the first time ever. I am 100 in agreeance with ashley
31:39Yeah, and it was the very first time that i've ever said that and it'll probably be the last
31:44But a lot of times people do have a clear outlook
31:48on relationships
31:49That they aren't in i've learned that as long as it's not their relationship. They can see the red flags
31:55They can see the issues they can even see solutions
31:58But when it comes to her relationship
32:02Her mom sister everybody us the whole world. Everybody has been trying to help her and she sees and understands nothing
32:08But yeah, she was she was making good commentary. She was making good comments. She was being supportive
32:12she was telling people advice that I agreed with and when that happens, it's like so
32:19There is a working brain in there, right?
32:21Like there is a work in my so it's just her life
32:24That she can't seem to get get under control every if she was giving advice to other people
32:29I would say she was qualified to do that right based on what she was saying
32:34Yeah, she was I was impressed tonight, but I we also haven't got to her shit storm yet either
32:39Yeah, we all we all know that's just gonna go down the toilet real fast
32:45I think that
32:47Everybody there
32:49Is probably well not everybody patrick and thais are fine, and i'm pretty sure lauren and alexi are fine
32:53But everybody else there has some issues that are going to come out right literally in my notes for everybody I have
33:00Nothing for lauren and alexi and I have nothing for patrick and thais
33:06Oh me neither. I remember my one tweet when um, lauren and alexi arrived because they were last to arrive
33:13I forgot I didn't notice that they weren't there until they arrived right and I was like
33:16Well, that's not good. I should have noticed that they weren't there because the first thing I thought where's angela and michael like I noticed
33:23But when lauren and alexi arrived last I was like, oh
33:27I didn't even realize they weren't there. They're not gonna bring anything to the to the scene. They're just gonna be there
33:32They just exist and it's the only thing that they're gonna bring to the scene is lauren and ed
33:37I mean with the fact that's the only drama that they can they can actually
33:41They can actually bring I mean, yeah
33:44boring
33:46Lauren has been pretty vocal with her feelings towards ed for years. So I totally know this is real
33:53She's not this isn't fake for the camera
33:55She's never cared for this man in in the way that he treats women
34:00And you know, i'm not a big fan of lauren, but she's right, you know
34:03It's it's it's not okay that this man has been on tv for this long the way that he treats women
34:08And did you notice that ed was really quiet?
34:11When jason came out like he he didn't really want to be that nasty vile person to a man
34:17He just wants to be that nasty vile person to women and I think that irritates me more
34:23Because it's like i've heard of pick on somebody your own size, right?
34:26Like stop, I hate seeing a man taking advantage of a woman or making a woman feel smaller making a woman feel like she can't
34:31Defend herself because of his size or whatever because he's a man when jason came out. He didn't have a lot to say
34:37But you know before jason came out he's talking about her being emotionally unstable and she has about you know
34:42He's just going for the juggler. But the second a man came out who's ready to go toe to toe
34:47Ed has nothing to say and I think that that says a lot. It's like you only feel that you can treat women that way
34:54And sooner or later there's gonna be a guy who's gonna give you a nice jab to the throat
34:59And you're gonna run a hard way, right?
35:03I don't think that's gonna happen
35:06No, it's not nobody not not
35:09Well, you get in the vicinity right in the vicinity. I mean you you I don't
35:15But that's how a narcissist is a narcissist is not going to stand up to
35:21another, um to another man
35:24They're not gonna do it because they're scared. They're cowards. I mean that that's just that's how it is
35:32Yeah
35:33I agree
35:35So rob and sophie aren't having sex. Gina and jasmine aren't having sex. We know kobe and emily are she's like pregnant
35:42She's probably pregnant right now
35:44Honestly, she's probably pregnant right now. Yeah, and um
35:47Lauren and alexi probably are they have lots of kids. So I think that
35:52Michael and angela are not well, they're not even sleeping in the same room
35:56So gino and jasmine weren't sleeping in the same room at home and they wouldn't sleep in the same room at the tell all
36:01So that makes me think they probably broke up before the tell all
36:05But contractually obligated to show up to the tell all it's part of your contract same with rob and sophie
36:10I feel like they were contractually obligated to show up because it was part of their contract
36:15And but I think that with rob and sophie they've always been friends
36:20Like they can tolerate each other's presence. I don't think gino and jasmine can really tolerate being around each other
36:26Yeah, I think it's gotten to that point because apparently jasmine wanted to get dressed and gino wouldn't leave and she was like
36:32I can't get dressed in front of or undressed in front of this guy. I'm like the guy that you married
36:37Like the guy that you but he said the same thing. He said almost the same thing when she said I never see him naked
36:44he said i'm not comfortable being naked in front of you and she said that also so like
36:51But that goes back back to
36:53But that goes back to the way she's treated him, I mean
36:57Would you want to be naked?
36:59Would you want to get naked in front of someone who has tore you down mentally said that you look disgusting that you disgust them
37:07That you know that their ex is better than you in every way
37:11I mean, I wouldn't want to get naked in front of somebody like that. Do you
37:15Think that jasmine has said
37:18Things like that
37:20To gino when he was naked
37:22like do you think that she was like, oh my ex was in better shape than you or
37:28Because the fact that he was hiding being naked from his wife for so long because she's like, oh i've never seen him fully naked
37:33i'm thinking
37:34That's weird, right? Like that's that's such a strange thing
37:38but when you always have something negative to say about a person their physical appearance their body their
37:44their um performance somebody when you're with somebody you love one negative comment
37:50It one negative comment about your physical appearance will affect you for life even if you fix it
37:58if if my husband came in and he said
38:01Your butt is gigantic or your butt is not big enough
38:05I would be so hyper focused on my butt forever and I would never let him see it there ever
38:11It's just yeah
38:13Thick in your head forever. That's the one person you love you're committed to for life
38:18And they shot you down and
38:21It would just never be the same. That's true
38:25God rest his soul if he ever compared me to an ex
38:29Right like z first of all
38:31When I know this is gonna sound really immature, but when i'm dating someone
38:35I like for us to forget that we ever dated other people. So like we don't need to bring up in conversation
38:42If I accidentally take you to the same place that they took you we don't need to bring that up
38:47You know, like it's there that relationship is in the past
38:50I know it's immature, but that's just you don't ever want to think of the person you really love
38:55Being loved and happy by another human being like it just makes you feel insecure
39:01It's just something that we are as humans. We don't want to think
39:04that
39:05That person that you have dedicated so much love and time to could be happy with somebody other than you
39:10It it destroys you inside right because it's like you want that to be your person, but the possibility that
39:17There could be another person out there for them. It just it messes with your head
39:21So I want to talk about this one statement that angela made she said
39:25You are not to be out of my sight
39:28She said that to michael at the tell all
39:31And she doesn't want him conversing with the cast members like she wants him in her sight
39:36And she wants to control everything that he does and says
39:39To everybody at the tell all right, like she doesn't want him to like go to the bathroom
39:43Like I feel like she's gonna follow him around and she's gonna control everything that happens there and again
39:48how do you guys feel about that because everybody at the
39:52At the tell all was really shocked by that same like even sean sean was like wow, you know
39:57Like wow, this is it feels so fast if I was there I would be
40:02They would have to arrest my ass on the stage as soon as I heard her saying that to him
40:06I would just get up and knock her dentures down her throat and call it a day like that would be a wrap
40:12I can't like I believe like I said the guilty dog
40:16Always barks
40:18Because she that's why she don't want him to open his mouth because he's going to tell the truth
40:24Michael is is a lot of things but I don't think michael. I mean he may have lied about some stuff
40:31but
40:32Michael may be a lot of things but I I would be I would believe michael before I believed angela
40:38Why because of her actions if you have nothing to hide
40:43Then so what if he's out mingling with everybody else if you're telling the truth about stuff
40:48So what if he's out i'm talking to other cast mates?
40:52Why do you have to have him on a short leash?
40:55Because you know, he's gonna tell the truth and everybody's gonna well, we already see her for her true colors
41:01But if once he tells his side of the story the truth
41:05Then people are are are gonna like put two and two together you see what i'm saying
41:10she believes
41:12Day one he couldn't have social media
41:14He I mean god forbid if he had a social media presence there was that one moment that he did
41:20And all hell broke loose, right?
41:22so
41:23Because he had a voice on social media
41:27He could post something he could expose her
41:29she just
41:31Guys she's so crazy. She's so crazy. She just needs to meet her match because all she is is loud
41:40That's all she is. She's not never
41:44She's just loud
41:45What i've never understood how she thinks that?
41:50She can silence him
41:52Like she she's the only one who can speak and she only says negative things about him
41:57And it's like, you know
41:58Even if you go to court you get your chance to talk about the person
42:02And then the other person gets a chance to talk about you like that's literally how it works
42:05Everybody gets a chance like if you try to get divorced and you want to say oh this person is horrible
42:10You get to go up there and talk to the judge and tell them how horrible they are
42:13But guess what? They also get to go up and tell the judge how horrible you are. This is literally how it's been
42:18That's what i'm saying about her being loud. So he says no no, no, and she she's
42:2510 octaves higher than him. She's got to be louder to shut him down
42:29So finally he just surrenders shuts down and that's a wrap. She gets the last word because everybody just wants her to shut the fuck up
42:39She can't have a civilized conversation she's always got to be screaming like who does that
42:47I I just I don't understand
42:50Why she brought him here because she keeps saying like oh I should have never brought you here
42:55You should have stayed there and before he got here. She was like, oh, he's a liar. He's a cheater
42:59He's a scammer and you know, i'm not trying to victim blame here
43:03But if you knew all of this information and you had the option to just not buy him a ticket
43:09Right, he could he could stay where he was
43:11Why did you go out of your way to bring him here?
43:14If you knew because she's like, oh he's been cheating on me
43:17And you know, I don't know who the person is in new jersey that she's talking about apparently there's a woman in new jersey
43:24That he's he's involved with I don't know that because since he's been here has he been to new jersey?
43:28I know he's been to indiana. He's been to texas. I think it's her
43:33Who?
43:34They sent you that picture
43:36So you think that's the woman that's in new jersey? So who was he with in indiana and then texas?
43:43I don't know, but I think the one that I sent you is the picture of the girl in new jersey
43:48She's pretty she's pretty. I mean, I I totally
43:53I think that
43:55if that's the truth
43:57then
43:58Okay, so I have a question if if any of this stuff is true
44:03Is angela's reaction in any way shape or form warranted say he does have a woman in new jersey
44:09And he did scam her
44:11Is it okay that she's lashing out at him? Or do you think that it's her fault for bringing him here? Like, how do you feel?
44:19He paid the price. We've said it he suffered through this shit for seven years
44:23He he wins he wins. He wins all the bingo cards. He wins all the powerball. He wins it all
44:30Welcome to america michael. Well
44:32I mean at the end of the day, it's her fault because
44:35We already know that I mean, yeah, he cheated on her we already know that he was talking to other women
44:40We already know he cheated on her if you know that you're that your your spouse is cheating on you
44:47Why are you going to stay with them?
44:49So if you go back to them over and over and over again
44:53Then you deserve everything they do to you. Why because you're the stupid one going back
44:58Just see I agree. I agree with you because the clip they sent us the clip
45:03They showed us tonight was literally from the tell-all from last year
45:08Of her saying that she got voice notes about him cheating. So
45:12She had this information. Let's say a year and a half ago
45:15Yeah, so before she brought him here before she continued the cable or the spousal visa process before any of this happened
45:22All the information that she had was available to her and she still brought him here
45:26So, I mean if he is a liar and a cheater and a scammer
45:30You
45:31Enabled him to do those things by bringing him here
45:34Like if you had all of the information in front of you and you still made this decision and the decision doesn't work out
45:41whose fault
45:43Is the situation that you're in, you know, like because you have the information in front of you
45:48You still made a decision to take a shot on it knowing what you knew because last on the last tell-all
45:54You knew that he was cheating. We literally heard the voice notes. It was his voice. There's no denying
45:59It wasn't ai it was legitimately real and you still decided to bring him all the way over here
46:05And then it didn't work out surprisingly to you for some reason and now you're still the victim
46:09and he's still a horrible person and it's like
46:12Cheating is cheating regardless, but you knew he was cheating on you a year and a half ago and you're totally fine with it
46:17also in that scene
46:19Who's she complaining to on the phone that he was cheating?
46:23Skylar, right? No to the guy in canada
46:26Was she on the phone with the guy from canada
46:30Oh my god, I didn't realize that's who she was talking to so
46:34And he was they were both
46:36Cheating on each other at the end of the day. They were both cheating on each other. So
46:41But I think she brought him over here
46:44Because of her ego because she did not want skylar to prove her wrong
46:50100 percent. Yeah
46:52She said that when she was arriving
46:54She was like I never thought in a million years that michael and I would be at a talal and he would physically be here
47:00I think she has something to prove
47:02I think they're both right
47:03I think she has something to prove because out of all the 90 day fiance couples in the history of the show her
47:09Getting him here took the longest. Well, actually no, I have to say rachel and john waters there before they broke up
47:15They would have been the longest. Yeah that anyone ever waited
47:19But she was second to that and I think she had something to prove she wanted to prove
47:24That it could happen for her and I think that
47:27overshadowed
47:29Being in love and trust and on and wanting the relationship to work
47:33It was more so I want to tell the people who said I was wasting my time and money that I wasn't
47:38Wasting my time and money and I think
47:42Because she brought she brought him over here and she still wasted her time and money she's
47:47Yeah out I think she said 30k
47:49and he's out with his
47:51He's getting all her tlc checks. She's still
47:55All over all over everything all over tiktok making money on there making money on her instagram
48:02She's she's all over the place making money and she doesn't have to work a day in her freaking life
48:07She's good and he gets that and he gets free money for the next 10 years because she had she has to
48:13Financially support him for 10 years
48:16Yes, and I love that for him
48:20I mean they've been in a relationship for seven years a marriage or relationship marriage for seven years
48:24So it's almost like he gets a year of credit
48:28For each year that he was with her right like he gets a year of credit so much more than that
48:33Let's be real that guy deserves so much more than that
48:37I do feel bad for him. I can't imagine being in a relationship where i'm not allowed to speak
48:43I'm not allowed to have a phone. I'm not allowed to communicate like I can't I don't know what that would
48:48It first of all, it's not a relationship. First of all, that's that's just I don't even know what you call that you might call it
48:55Kidnapping i'm not even sure what you would call it, but it's not a relationship. I can't imagine
49:00Just being told what I can't do like you can't go out. You can't have friends. You can't he couldn't even go to the house
49:07Because she didn't want him like
49:09Associating
49:11with the people in the house
49:12Like can you imagine like first of all that is exhausting to try to control every aspect of somebody's life like that?
49:19That's exhausting. Like you have to think you have to plan your day
49:24Making sure that that person can't do things like I don't have enough time
49:28And patience to try to do that. I couldn't even imagine right?
49:33No
49:34I couldn't either
49:36I'm exhausted. So this was this was the part one. Hold on. There's something else in here
49:41I thought we had to talk about I can't remember what it was now
49:45I mean, oh jasmine got her license
49:48I think we were we were talking about that earlier in the season
49:50She did get her license
49:51She had to get a ride from a friend because she said gino wouldn't take her to take the test gino
49:56Um refuted that and said he did take her or he didn't make the appointment or whatever
50:01What do you think about this where she says that gino
50:04Or gino's family actually says that he gave up on the relationship like he's not trying anymore. Do you guys feel that that's true?
50:11I don't want to quit too
50:14Do you me too? I mean who who want who would want to be in a relationship with jasmine or angela?
50:19Like seriously who in their right mind would want to be in a relationship with them, but
50:25Does it bother you that his family is on jasmine's side or do you think they're just on the side of what's right?
50:31I think they're just on the side of what's right
50:34what they see
50:36I think they're on the side of what there's what they see but also
50:41the
50:42dana's wife
50:44Has hung out with jasmine a lot more than
50:47You know, we ever thought possible, but during that time all she's hearing is do you know this?
50:53Do you know that do you know this do you know that so she's getting one-sided jasmine story exactly
50:58Exactly
50:59So that was my question like do you think that they should at least understand?
51:05Both sides before they pick a side because let's be real. That's his family
51:09And they should want to know like if if she obviously she doesn't have any friends here when she got here
51:14that's the only person that she could tell the negative stuff to but
51:18Gino doesn't seem like the type to go and air his dirty laundry to everybody
51:21I don't think he's telling everybody all of the things that they're experiencing. I don't know
51:25I just felt like as my family they should have been a little more
51:29Reacting to be on no side
51:32But how is it that they are so much on her side?
51:36When jasmine used to talk so much bad stuff about them
51:41Like I didn't even want them at the wedding. Remember that she didn't even want them at the wedding
51:45She said she didn't want anyone from his family there
51:48She hated them and she didn't even want them in their life
51:50She actually told them
51:52When we get married, you can't communicate with these people anymore. Do y'all remember that you have to end all ties?
51:58And that's what I do
52:00Once she got here, she met these people. She pled her case. They gave her a chance started hanging out with her. So now
52:07Especially dana's wife is hanging out with her all the freaking time because she's the only person
52:14So if you've met her you gave her a chance
52:17Now she's got your phone number so she's calling you for everything she's calling you for a ride
52:21She's calling you for advice. She's calling you to wine and bitch
52:23She's calling you for all the things and so now you're stuck
52:27You're stuck with her even though you didn't want her you're stuck and you have to listen to this bullshit
52:34So you it starts getting in your head when you hear it constantly. You're like, wow, he really the shit even though
52:41He's not
52:43And he's your family
52:44It's literally getting beat into your head constantly that he's doing this wrong and he's doing that wrong
52:50So now you're on the spot
52:52What do you say you say what's in your head? It's been beat in there. So
52:57I don't think that she knows the whole story. So I think
53:01Accidentally
53:03And two jasmine is I mean she is she's a narcissist as well
53:08And narcissist knows how to convince you
53:12of anything
53:14They can they're so good that they can tell you that the sky is purple
53:18and even though you know that the sky is blue, but they have a way of
53:23Convincing you that that sky. No, that's blue. I mean that's purple. You're gonna believe them. You know what i'm saying?
53:29That's one thing about narcissists
53:31Jasmine is a narcissist
53:33And ed is a narcissist and angela. She's a narcissist on steroids
53:41So
53:42Well
53:44We're gonna
53:46Oh, we talked about the porn thing, right? Yeah, we talked about that. So we're gonna see how that's posted everywhere about
53:52Gina's corn addiction
53:56Oh, yeah, because she's it's corn with jasmine it's oh, yeah
54:00Somebody posted corn and now it's everywhere
54:04Well, yeah, then it's like a meme of like corn on the cob right and he's like, yeah
54:09Totally. I like corn
54:13I'm not addicted
54:16But yeah, and larissa got married
54:18So that's the thing
54:20Yeah, so congrats to her. She doesn't like me but congrats to her
54:22She won't see this because she has me blocked but let's got married. Okay, so we're gonna come back tomorrow
54:27Um, hopefully fingers crossed the other way is gonna show up on streaming tomorrow
54:33Somebody told me that forbidden love showed up tonight, but no, i'm so excited. I love that show. Yeah, so
54:40Um, we're gonna talk about that too, so we're gonna talk about um the other way then
54:44Probably forbidden love i'm not sure how we're gonna like work it out time schedule wise
54:48But I want to talk about that because it's like night a fiance but like on steroids
54:52It's like it's way crazier and there's like amish amish guy on there and he said that
54:59Yeah, it's it's a whole thing. So yeah, we're definitely gonna talk about that. I'm excited
55:02But yeah that showed up on streaming on time
55:05But the tell all did not so i'm hoping that the glitch is fixed so tomorrow the other way will be there on time
55:12Watching it with commercials was torture
55:15So bad, um, but um, yeah, we're gonna come back and there's four more parts to this tell all guys
55:21So we're just getting started
55:2420 weeks in
55:26Yeah, like we've got a whole nother month to go before we get all of the the tell all info which
55:33It's hard it's hard to fathom because we got a lot in tonight
55:35I was surprised that I thought it was all gonna be the house tonight
55:38So the fact that we actually got any tell all was was surprising. Yeah
55:44Maybe maybe we'll get more drama since we got four more. Um episodes
55:50Maybe we'll actually get to see some legit drama like some action
55:54Oh, yeah
55:55There was the scene where angela was chasing after michael and in the house and everyone told him run
56:00I think once angela and michael get into the houses where things are going to get crazy
56:04I think that's since they weren't there the first night. It was a little more tame wouldn't think once they
56:10Just humor me, but wouldn't it be awesome if angela tripped going up the stairs?
56:15I laugh
56:17At people who fall this is like a horrible thing, but I like watch fall videos, right?
56:22Like I don't know i'm a bad person
56:23But like i've watched falling videos all the time or if I see someone fall in public
56:27I usually laugh i'll look the other way so they don't see me, but it's very funny
56:31So if she would have fell up the stairs because I actually fell up the stairs before it was very painful
56:36So I would have laughed that would have been hilarious. Yeah
56:39All right, so make sure um, you're following both my co-hosts. Um car and dvd
56:43They're tagged in this video
56:44Um, make sure you're following me on all social media platforms at george mosey george mosey.com
56:47Anyways podcast type in the george mosey show. Um, we're gonna be back tomorrow night to talk about the other way
56:53There's still two people we haven't met yet. So we're probably gonna get into that
56:57tomorrow
56:58Um, and then we're gonna start up talking about the show called forbidden love
57:01So if you haven't watched you should probably um, it's on max and discovery plus catch up on that
57:05So you can understand what we're talking about and why it's so good. All right guys. Thank you for joining us
57:10Um, congrats again to my co-host car who became a grandma
57:14beautiful beautiful little girl everybody
57:16Congratulate her everybody. Have a good night. We'll talk to y'all soon. Bye
57:27You