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Do Celtic have an effective transfer model? Despite Brendan Rodgers stating that multiple new players will be signed before the end of the transfer window, several Celtic fans have expressed their frustrations about the overall strategy.   SUBSCRIBE: ‪@PLZSoccer‬   With key Celtic players such as Kyogo being linked to Manchester City and Matt O'Riley with Brighton, we look at whether Celtic FC's transfer strategy is both a financial success and on the pitch in the Champions League.  Also on The Football Show:  Kilmarnock and Hearts both lost the 1 round of European playoffs All Scottish Premiership fixtures this weekend including Rangers v Ross County and St Mirren v Celtic Philippe Clement's press conference where he gives updates on Ibrox stadium and potential new transfers We ask "what happened to Todd Cantwell at Rangers?" Aberdeen FC's Duk is AWOL. What does this mean for his future at the club and as a professional football player? The latest Scottish football news including Pep Guardiola's update on Manchester City making a transfer bid for Celtic's Kyogo All of this weekend's English Premier League fixtures And much more!  The Football Show Highlights:  00:00:00 Intro 00:01:44 Copenhagan 2-0 Kilmarnock 00:05:33 FC Viktoria Plzeň 1-0 Hearts 00:10:26 Scottish Premiership fixtures 00:13:33 Rangers transfer news and Ibrox update 00:17:04 What happened to Todd Cantwell 00:22:15 Rangers v Ross County preview 00:23:08 Celtic FC transfer strategy and policy 00:32:08 St Mirren v Celtic preview 00:33:17 Latest Scottish football news 00:35:22 Jimmy Thelin on Duk AWOL 00:42:15 Aberdeen v Kilmarnock preview 00:45:28 Motherwell v Hearts FC 00:49:42 Hibernian v Dundee FC 00:53:41 Dundee United v St Johnstone  00:54:23 English Premier League fixtures 00:54:55 Pep Guardiola Kyogo transfer news 00:59:25 What 3 words would you tell yourself at 18 years old?  If you love football as much as we do then we highly recommend you like, share and subscribe to PLZ Soccer.

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00:00:00Welcome to the football show on PLZ Soccer's YouTube channel, I'm Peter Martin, that's

00:00:11Alan Ruff just moving as we start, Alison McConnell and Tam McManus. We're all here,

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00:00:44us and hopefully you're enjoying the content as well. So, lots to talk about. Late, late

00:00:49show really damages Carmannock and Hart's hopes in European football. We'll get the

00:00:53thoughts of our panel. Should we consider giving clubs a break to help them qualify

00:00:59for European competition? It's the last week of the transfer window. Have you seen enough

00:01:03activity at your club? Is Conor Barron ready for a call up to the international squad?

00:01:09Is he good enough? Give us your thoughts. We could get t-shirts printed. Where's Duke?

00:01:15Everybody's dying to know. We'll hear from Jimmy Tallien on that. Gundogan, he has re-signed

00:01:20for Manchester City. You should never go back. That's what the saying goes. But, with

00:01:26that in mind, I've come up with a top ten of players who should have never gone back

00:01:34to their clubs. So, as you can see, Ali's absolutely delighted at that. She just hasn't

00:01:39told her face yet. So, there we have it. That's what we're going to talk about. Let's start

00:01:44First of all, Copenhagen 2, Kilmarnock 0. Derek McInnes, this is what he had to say

00:01:51on the overall result. He wasn't happy with it. A horrendous refereeing decision. Really

00:01:58nice of the league, he says, to maybe even think about us being still in Europe and giving

00:02:02us Aberdeen away. It's quicker to get to Denmark than it is to Aberdeen. A four-hour journey

00:02:07but such is life. I think while the game is still in the balance for next Thursday, we

00:02:11want to try and make it a special night at Rugby Park. But he did go on to say, a horrendous

00:02:16refereeing decision in that match. By and large, he says, we felt OK until the referee

00:02:23gets involved. Ruffey, what's your take on it? Obviously, we watched it a couple of times.

00:02:28I think, unfortunately, I don't think it's an intentional foul. I think the two of them

00:02:32have went for the ball. I think, unfortunately, the Kilmarnock boy has kicked the back of

00:02:38El Anousi's leg. I don't think it stopped him from scoring a goal. It was just a collision

00:02:43between the two of them. But they've had a look at it and analysed it. I think that's

00:02:47why they've given the penalty. It's because there's contact in the back of his leg. Did

00:02:50you think it was a penalty? I thought it was a soft one but yes, it was a penalty. If it

00:02:54was up the other end, I'm sure Danny McInnes would be screaming for a penalty. Ali? I thought

00:02:58it was harsh. I'm not convinced that it was a penalty and I can understand why Kilmarnock

00:03:05felt so aggrieved at it being given. I'm in your camp, Ali. It's not a bad start, Ali.

00:03:11I'm in your camp. I'm agreeing with Ali. But you are with Ruffey, aren't you? Sadly, for

00:03:15me, it's an absolute stonewall penalty. I think in that situation, the ball bounces.

00:03:19If you get a nick on it as a striker, if you get a nick on the ball and the defender kicks

00:03:23your foot, it's a foul. Sorry, Derek. It's an absolute stonewall penalty for me. Right,

00:03:27okay. What about the second one, Ruffey? The second one, I don't think the boy knew what

00:03:32he was doing either. I think he just stuck his leg out and it was a great connection

00:03:37and it fired into the back of the net but I don't think for a minute he intentionally

00:03:41meant it to go there. True nothing. Is it insurmountable in your eyes, Ali? It's not

00:03:46insurmountable, of course not, but you would have to say, if you were asking me if I think

00:03:51Kilmarnock can overturn it, I would have to say no. I think it's a huge ask now to try

00:03:57and go through to essentially score three goals and keep a clean sheet at Rugby Park.

00:04:01It's not impossible, I'm sure they'll set out to try and get an early goal but I think

00:04:05their task is significantly tougher. I think if they kept it to 1-0, you've got a fighting

00:04:10chance. At 2-0, I think it becomes very hard. I think Copenhagen will try and manage the

00:04:16game and see it out. If you were putting me on the spot, I'd say no, I can't see Kilmarnock

00:04:21now getting past Copenhagen. Ruffey? It's the old one, isn't it? Whoever scores first.

00:04:28If Kilmarnock scores first, the whole place will be jumping. They'll believe they can

00:04:32get another one. If they score first, the game's over. Gone.

00:04:37On the basis that I've been with you 12 years, I'm well aware of your probability status.

00:04:45Do you think they're through? Who are you telling me scored the first goal? It all depends

00:04:52on who scores first. I think there's always a chance at 2-0, you're still in it. You're

00:04:57not out of it, you're still in it. And if I was putting you on the spot, Kelly? I hope

00:05:01they do, I hope they get through. Will they? Yeah. Okay, there you are. We got there in

00:05:06the end. No, I don't think so. Peter, I think at 1-0, you've got a sniff. I think the late

00:05:11goal's an absolute killer for Kilmarnock. I watched the second half, I thought they

00:05:15were under real pressure. I thought the first half, Kilmarnock were quite comfortable. Once

00:05:19Copenhagen scored, they tried to get that second one, they pushed forward in droves

00:05:23and they showed their quality. I think the best Kilmarnock maybe get a draw at home,

00:05:28but I think the tie's over, sadly, for Kilmarnock. Okay, it's going to be a tall order, I think

00:05:32you might be right on that one, but I'm going to stick my neck out and say Hearts are going

00:05:36to beat Victoria Pills in the return. I was well impressed with them, I thought they played

00:05:41some lovely possession football. The keeper, Craig Gordon, I mean, he's bloody hell rough,

00:05:47he's 41. He produced two brilliant saves in the game, he was brilliant. Yeah, very instinctive

00:05:52saves. You could show the experience he had to get his body in the line, particularly

00:05:57the one with his foot. He narrowed the angle and got it right. He's good at making these

00:06:02saves and that's what he's done most of his career. He's made big saves that makes him

00:06:07a top keeper. Yeah, absolutely magnificent. And again, I hate to say this, but there's

00:06:13two chances for Lauren Shanklin. It's right down the barrel of the gun. If he puts it

00:06:18left or right, Hearts have got a goal. Yeah, and what could be a huge goal too, so I think

00:06:24he should be scoring them. I agree with you though, I think 1-0 is still a very favourable

00:06:30result. I think the timing of the goal would have felt, it would have scunnered Hearts

00:06:34because it looked as though they were going to take a draw back to Tynecastle, but I think

00:06:381-0, they're still very much in it. I would agree with you, I think they'll overturn that.

00:06:42Yeah, Tam? Yeah, I think Hearts have got a real opportunity. I wasn't particularly impressed

00:06:46with Pilsen, I expected they would be better. Hearts played really well. I think, again,

00:06:51the late goal shifts the momentum towards Pilsen, but I think Hearts at a packed Tynecastle,

00:06:56I think they beat Rosenberg a couple of seasons ago as well at home to get through. I think

00:06:59they can overturn that one, they'll go through. So I'll go for Hearts to go through, yeah.

00:07:02Okay, I was well impressed with Hearts' possession football at times. I thought they played some

00:07:06lovely stuff. Just didn't have that killer touch that I think you need. What do you think

00:07:10about that? Lots of people obviously joining us on the live feed. Don't worry, if you don't

00:07:16catch us on the live feed, because you can watch the programme at your leisure and more

00:07:21and more people are watching it, you'll get opinion, get a bit of banter as well. We'll

00:07:24read out as many of your messages as we possibly can. And, Ruffy, the other great thing that

00:07:30I'd like to point out to you is if they download the PLZ Soccer app, there is in the main menu

00:07:36a chance for them to go down to the contact section and record a message. So if they want

00:07:42to really put the boot in, they can record themselves. And we'll put out some of the

00:07:48people who have obviously recorded themselves. And of course you won't vet any of them, you'll

00:07:52just put them out. There'll be no good ones, bad ones. Just put them out. There'll be none

00:07:56slaughtering Peter. Let's not be silly. You'll be vetted. Well, it's funny you should say

00:08:01that because obviously there are people that slaughter me every day of the week. Ali slaughters

00:08:07me. Ali and I had a full scale argument this morning, but we're still pals. Somebody said to

00:08:14us there, hi, I just want to check, is Ruffy wearing a gold medallion round your... you've

00:08:20got a gold... Is it a gold chain? Somebody thought you were wearing a gold medallion.

00:08:26Can I just ask, why have you not got a t-shirt underneath that? I had a t-shirt. You've just

00:08:30got a jumper with your chest out, what's going on? It was very warm earlier when I came in,

00:08:34so I took it off. Do you know what, I was looking at him... Sorry, but Lancaster? No, no, I was

00:08:40looking, what exactly? Ron Burgundy, that's what it is. You should see him trying to read one of

00:08:44the promos, Ali. It's hard work. Anyway, thank you. It's there, William Smith. Is Ruffy wearing

00:08:52a golden medallion around his neck? He's just a pure 1970s man, Ruffy. What do you expect from

00:08:58him? That was in then. I'm wearing him coming in... I don't know if I should say this. I was

00:09:07going out with a girl once and she bought me a gold sovereign ring for my birthday.

00:09:16I used to have one in my middle finger, then I had to get it cut off, but I had it since I was

00:09:19about 12 or 13. A sovereign ring? Yeah, yeah, 13, 14. I mean, my mates slaughtered me, Ruffy,

00:09:24because there's something just so... That's what you got in the Spineburner,

00:09:26that was a rite of passage. You got a sovie, my man, aye?

00:09:33Ruffy, I mean, you... I have to be perfectly honest, when we won the League Cup way back in

00:09:37the year, a jeweller gave us all rings with word initials on them. Oh, and he's still got it to this

00:09:44day. That gold, Ruffy? Can I get that when you croak it? Our jeweller in Buchanan Street made

00:09:50everybody a ring with it. AR? Brilliant. Get a few quid for that melted down, Ali,

00:09:55that's what I'm thinking. That's fantastic, Ruffy. That last mine, that's... I lost mine,

00:09:58that's actually Alec Reyes. Brilliant, Ruffy. So, we reckon one in, one out, as far as Europe's

00:10:12concerned. What do you make of it all? What do you think? Give us your thoughts on that. Thank

00:10:16you to so many of you for your messages. We try and read out as many of the sensible ones as

00:10:22possible. And we are open to taking criticism as well, let me tell you that. Scottish Premiership,

00:10:28here's what we've got to look forward to this weekend. It's going to be Dundee United against

00:10:33St Johnson, Hibbs against Dundee, I'll be at Easter Road looking forward to it. Rangers against

00:10:38Ross County, St Mirren Celtic, Aberdeen against Kilmarnock, and Motherwell take on Hearts. That's

00:10:44what we're going to digest and you can give us your thoughts on that as well. Just before we

00:10:50leave the European and start to talk domestic football, should we be giving our teams a break,

00:10:56as Derek McInnes is making out there, should we be giving them a break, the qualifiers,

00:11:00just to try and get them into the group stages? I think it makes sense. I think on initial

00:11:07inspection of it, you say yes. You say you want as many teams going into European competition as

00:11:11possible. You want to have teams competing in that arena. It raises the standard of the league,

00:11:17it gives finance to clubs who are able to attract a better player. You see all the arguments for it,

00:11:22however what I would say is when you put that into practice across the course of a campaign,

00:11:28you can see that obviously it would raise headaches too. If you think if every club

00:11:33who goes into group stage competition is then asking for deferments of games, you think at

00:11:38what point can you manage to fulfil the calendar across the course of the campaign. So you can see

00:11:44the logistics of it and if you do it for one club and for example you let Kilmarnock and you let

00:11:49St Mirren and you let Hearts delay games and then for example Celtic go into the group stages of the

00:11:54Champions League and you maybe have a Rangers game coming up in the back of it and you ask

00:11:58to defer a tie and it can create a full can of worms I think. But in terms of just if you wanted

00:12:04to draw a line in the sand and say just for qualification matches when it's early in the

00:12:08season and you've got ample time then to reschedule games, I would say yes. I say yes, you? Yeah 100%

00:12:13I think he's right. I think you look at clubs all over Europe. Dutch League, I think the rest,

00:12:17I think the Pilsen didn't have a game at the weekend either so they're trying to help their

00:12:22clubs get into Europe and that always benefits everybody else with the coefficient and stuff.

00:12:26So 100% I think Derek's bang on there. Okay, Rafi what do you make of this situation we have?

00:12:33We're into the final week of the transfer window. There's going to be a hell of a lot

00:12:37of business needs to be done from some managers just to tweak their squad to get it ready. Some

00:12:42people have demands of trying to look at the domestic situation and then marry that with

00:12:49European football as well. Yeah, my managers have had long enough to assess the squad. You know,

00:12:54some of them will be happy. I wouldn't think Dundee would have any problems about rushing

00:12:58anybody through with the start they've had. I think Sint Maarten and Komarnack will be a wee

00:13:03bit more wary now when they're playing the two games that their squads aren't capable enough of

00:13:08doing that. Every club will have their own idea, every manager will have their own idea of what

00:13:14he's got but the bottom line is money. You know, I don't think a lot of our clubs have got enough

00:13:18money so any players I think will be coming into our clubs will all be on loan. All of them?

00:13:24All of them. Obviously Celtic have got money to splash. I can't see the likes of Sint Maarten,

00:13:30Komarnack, you know, these kind of teams throwing money about.

00:13:34Okay, Rangers take on Ross County. I think there's a wee bit of good news coming towards

00:13:39the Rangers fans with regards to the return to Ibrox. We'll find out now from our reporter,

00:13:44Patrick Mullen. Rangers are preparing to take on Ross County tomorrow in what could be their

00:13:48last home league game at the National Stadium. Renovations look set to be completed at Ibrox

00:13:54Stadium and while Fleet-Clement didn't give anything away he said there is a possibility

00:13:58this could be their last chance at Hampden Stadium. Nothing can be confirmed until

00:14:04until it's sure but people are working really hard to make it as fast as possible

00:14:10so there's a possibility in that way but not certainty. There's just a week to go until the

00:14:14transfer window closes and while Fleet-Clement says he is confident the club can get business

00:14:19done he insists outgoings will have to be the priority before any new incomings. Yeah,

00:14:24I'm confident because I believe in the club, I believe in the recruitment

00:14:29and I believe we can do the right things. We need to do a lot of things so I know that in one

00:14:42transfer period it will be impossible to do everything that we want to do as a club that

00:14:48we know but I think a lot of good things already are done but we need still to do several things

00:14:55this week that's clear for everybody in the building. It's Rangers versus Ross County at

00:14:59Hampden Stadium tomorrow afternoon. Kick-off is at 3pm and PRZ Soccer will be there live

00:15:04keeping you up to date. Yeah, I think you know there's some suggestion that it might be the

00:15:08last time they'll be playing at Hampden. Could be back in time for the match against Dundee but

00:15:14I don't think anybody would be shouting that from the high heavens right away because obviously

00:15:20they just want to kind of make sure everything's right, the seating is in and it's all secure and

00:15:28it's passed all its safety inspections so I don't think anybody's shouting it from the high heavens

00:15:32that suddenly after the game against Ross County they'll be back there on the 21st of September

00:15:37but it'll be pretty close. Yeah, I think the Rangers fans will be excited to get back to

00:15:41Ibrox. I think they'll realise that Hampden's not a great venue to go and watch football.

00:15:46They've struggled a little bit obviously playing at Hampden, the atmosphere's not been anywhere

00:15:50near the same as Ibrox. I think the pitches I've seen online, you can't really trust a lot of them

00:15:55but some of the ones that I've seen, the stadium looks good, the steals arrived and listen they'll

00:16:00be working around the clock to get them back into Ibrox you know so they'll be hoping that in

00:16:05September they'll be back in for that Dundee game. Yeah, activity, that's the key I think

00:16:10that a lot of Rangers fans are looking at. Can you get some of the players out that they just,

00:16:16I don't think there's any leeway whatsoever for Todd Cantwell to make a return so can they get

00:16:22him out, can they get other players that are not going to feature out and then suddenly quickly

00:16:27turn around players who are going to come in? That's been the mantra for the last few weeks

00:16:31from Philip Clement, he's been very open about the fact he can't bring anyone else in until he

00:16:36offloads players who are in the building and who are taking a fairly sizeable wage. I think

00:16:41the remit at Rangers is clear, I think there's a directive to get the wage bill down, to source

00:16:48better value in the transfer market, to identify a player trading model that so far they've been

00:16:54unable to really create successfully over a long period of time but in the short term for this

00:17:00window I think it's quite clear there's players there that need to go before any more can come in

00:17:05and Cantwell I think is a key example, I think the situation at the minute isn't to the benefit

00:17:11of anyone, not to the player and not to the club, I think it's utterly pointless for him to be

00:17:16languishing in the reserves, not part of the first team picture. I think I would have been

00:17:23tempted still to have played him and even if I thought he was going to go before the end of the

00:17:27window, play him, get something out of him, bring something else into the team because I do think,

00:17:33I know there was criticism of him last season but I think he had something to offer, I think there was

00:17:38a creativity there and I think it's almost an element of cutting off your nose to spite your

00:17:43face just now. His fall from grace has been absolutely incredible. Yeah it has, I think when

00:17:50he first came in I thought he looked a really really good player, I thought he made an impression

00:17:55with the Rangers support straight away, he looked as if he was going to be a really really good

00:17:59signing. I think that a lot of his activity off the pitch in terms of social media and all that,

00:18:03a lot of fans have turned against him. I think he's put out cryptic stuff after games and all that

00:18:07and the Rangers supporters are just like, just listen, just do your talking on the pitch and I don't think

00:18:10he's done that in the last year. So there'll be a lot of Rangers supporters thinking, bring him back

00:18:15in, give him one more chance but the Rangers supporters I know and speak to think, just cut

00:18:20your losses and get rid of him. He's causing too much havoc off the pitch when he's not been playing.

00:18:25The one thing about players, I always try and mention this to anyone who works for

00:18:31PLZ who's reporting on matches, and you're old enough in the head to know this a lot

00:18:37longer than I certainly when I'm watching games, is quite simply do not get sucked into people

00:18:45gesticulating, pointing to the name, being a fan's favourite for doing all sorts of

00:18:52gestures. Watch a player, watch a player consistently and ask yourself in each game

00:18:59that you see him, does he do something significant that merits the transfer money and his inclusion

00:19:06in the starting 11? And I said consistently last year, I didn't see it. I just didn't see what he

00:19:14brought to that Rangers team. He didn't kill teams off, he wasn't able to make an impression in my

00:19:19mind in games where Rangers fans that I speak to who are Rangers fans who go to a game and can do

00:19:26this, they look at it and say, I'm not going to be fooled, I'm going to watch you and see what you do

00:19:30and I'm sorry, he's a player for the 21st century social media. He's not a player who you want on

00:19:38the park who you think, go out and win the game. You look at that young boy Connor Barron, he's

00:19:43come in and made a huge difference. He actually realises you play the ball forward. Yeah well

00:19:47Clermont's already made up his mind and he's ticked all the boxes that you're talking about.

00:19:52He's not the kind of player he wants in his squad. I don't know, I like he's away for the game itself.

00:19:58I agree with you to a certain extent, in big games he never really done it and he probably done it

00:20:02against all the other teams in the league. He never grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck

00:20:07and was the match winner or the winner. But I think the evidence was on the line way back in

00:20:12that European game when Clermont took him off after 20 minutes, basically because he wasn't

00:20:16going by instructions. In the modern day now, if you've got a player like that mixing with the

00:20:22rest of the squad, you've got to do something about it. You've got to put your finger on it

00:20:26and say right, this is not happening. Sometimes you've got to cut your losses. It might be a

00:20:32really good player but if he's not causing any harmony in the dressing room, you're betting him

00:20:37out the door. You don't want him walking about, you don't want him mingling with the rest of the

00:20:41players and if all that social stuff's going on in the background as well, that's not happening

00:20:46either. I agree with what Ruffey said, you've got to do your talking on the pitch Peter.

00:20:51Particularly when you play with Celtic and Rangers. I think he did a wee squabble with Chris Sutton as

00:20:55well, biting at pundits and all that on social media. Just get your head down and do the business

00:21:01for your club. He'd done that initially and then I think he's been sidetracked by off the pitch stuff

00:21:07and I think the manager's patience has run out on him as well. Okay, Conor Barron, Scotland

00:21:12potentially? Yeah, I think it's incredible that as soon as he goes to Rangers he's getting linked

00:21:16to a Scotland caller. It seems to happen quite a lot when players go to the old firm, call me a

00:21:20cynic Peter, but he wasn't really linked last season even though he was very good for Aberdeen.

00:21:26I think he started the season tremendously well for Rangers, he's been probably their

00:21:29best signing. They got him for next to nothing, I don't know about Tribunal and stuff but

00:21:34he's been superb for them. He's taken games with a scruff of the neck and

00:21:38I think he would be well worth a look for Steve Clarke.

00:21:42Yeah, I think there's a few people on the fringes. I'd like to see

00:21:46the boy Gold getting a chance. We brought him into the squad for a couple of games

00:21:51and I think there are people on the fringes who deserve a shot. We're in this Nations League now,

00:21:56we're in the top league so I would give as many young players a chance to see what they can do

00:22:03for the future because there's a lot of players in there now, not particularly the midfield

00:22:07players in the Scotland team but a lot of them will be coming to the end of their careers so if

00:22:11there's anybody out there who's showing anything, give them a shout.

00:22:16Rangers vs Ross County prediction? This is a Ross County side by the way, if you look at it

00:22:21apart from the four wins in the League Cup section, two draws and a loss.

00:22:27I think it could be a heavy day for them. I think the atmosphere would be pretty poor.

00:22:31Ross County won't bring many supporters down so I think Rangers could win this 3-4-0.

00:22:373-0-0, I think it would be very comfortable for Rangers. I can't see Ross County

00:22:43posing too many problems. 2-0-0 for me Rangers.

00:22:462-0-0 Rangers, okay I'll go 2-0-0 with you as well Tam. Celtic transfer activity,

00:22:53this is an interesting one as well because everybody's looking at me. As you can tell,

00:23:02we had a film scaler this morning in the office so Ali and I totally and utterly disagree

00:23:11on Celtic's transfer policy so let's cut to the chase Ruffey. I did say to you at the start of

00:23:18the season, watch this space. Celtic will do their business dragging their heels all the way to the

00:23:26end of the transfer window once again and I have my own reasons why I know that that happens

00:23:32but I'll tell you right now, Schmeichel was a stonewall certainty because they had to get

00:23:38someone down to replace Joe Hart. The other two were there last season so they had to get deals

00:23:44over the line. Whatever's going on in the background, for me the manager is biting his tongue.

00:23:52Yeah I think he is biting his tongue now but obviously the proof in the pudding will be at the

00:23:56end of the month. If O'Reilly does go and two or three players come in, the fans will be happy to

00:24:04a certain extent but we'll have to see the quality that's coming in. I don't think for a minute if

00:24:09nothing comes in, I think all hell will break loose if O'Reilly goes and that's all that they brought

00:24:14in. So we'll just have to wait and see what's going on behind the scenes and there obviously are

00:24:20two or three players being mentioned but it's taken what, two months to get the ones that they

00:24:26had so I think the Celtic supporters will be anxious come the end of the season, the end of

00:24:33the month. Yeah okay and now for the defence of the policy and by the way I think the one thing

00:24:46that you've got to offer and this is what we try and do on this programme is you've got to offer a

00:24:52sense of balance on everything that goes on. They are as a group of accountants and bank managers

00:25:00and a board, one of the best run clubs in Great Britain. There's absolutely no doubt about that.

00:25:08It doesn't always match with fans who want, their ambitions are yes you want to win the league

00:25:15but they want to do something in Europa League. So my only argument with you constantly at the

00:25:19moment has been in my opinion I think Celtic have absolutely dominated domestic football here

00:25:27for a number of reasons which we've gone over on countless occasions but they've got no ambition

00:25:32in Europe, absolutely none. They've been able to put out a narrative to the Celtic fans

00:25:38we can't compete and this is what you get year in year out. Since 2003 apart from a short sabbatical

00:25:47with Ange Postacoglou it's lastminute.com. Now it was also lastminute.com with Ange at points

00:25:54too. People forget as I pointed out to you this morning there were players who came in in the last

00:26:0048 hours of Ange's first window. Kyogo, Josip Juranovic, Cameron and Carter Vickers, Jota,

00:26:08Jaki Makis all done in the later stages of a window. So the optics that everything was done

00:26:15early all the time is not entirely true. It doesn't quite stand up to scrutiny. It stands up to

00:26:19scrutiny but there were a number of players brought in in that window early Ali. They did a lot of

00:26:25activity towards the tail end but there was signings that people started saying oh wait a

00:26:30minute this guy's brought them in at the start of the window. Also as well Ange obviously had a clear

00:26:35view of the of the Japanese market. He was coming from the J League. There were hits and misses

00:26:40there in terms of what was recruited with Kyogo in real Hitati. The very obvious

00:26:46hits, Matt O'Reilly obviously him and Hitati coming in the January window but

00:26:51I think Celtic fans are right to be frustrated. I think you can understand the frustration. I think

00:26:57you can hear the hint of frustration and probably more than a hint from Brendan Rodgers in press

00:27:04conferences. I think last Friday he pretty much said it without quite coming out and seeing it.

00:27:10Again today you hear the same message. We want quality. We want players coming in. They've got a

00:27:15week to do it. I think there is probably a very quiet sense of apprehension within Celtic. I think

00:27:25they have resources. They have financial resources to bring players in. I think there's probably been

00:27:31a frustration at not getting what they want in. We know we've discussed this already. Three players

00:27:37that we know that have had alternative options and gone elsewhere. I think there's a much bigger

00:27:44conversation to be had at some point about the structure of the recruitment side of things at

00:27:49the club. I think you could make a compelling argument for it has to be a much more modern

00:27:55entity but I still think they will get a couple over the line. I think supporters are right

00:28:02to expect that to happen. I think the time to judge is when the window closes.

00:28:08They've got a budget that can sink the Titanic and I've yet to meet a Celtic fan who thinks,

00:28:14listen, start going out there and sending 10 million pound players. They are listening to a

00:28:19manager. They're not listening to us suddenly put down the template. They're listening to their

00:28:26managers every word. He said weeks ago he wanted three or four. He said he wanted three in the

00:28:33January transfer window. The year when he dropped in he would like to get players in. We know he

00:28:39wanted three or four then so he hasn't been able to get what he's looking for. He doesn't want 10,

00:28:46two million pound players. He said that. He wants three quality. So we're now heading to the end of

00:28:53that window and by the way when it hits the end of the window there's a Champions League draw to

00:28:59take place and then it's September and then they will be judged. I think there's still a week to go

00:29:04Peter. I think if we're having this conversation next Friday and there's still no sign of anybody

00:29:10then you're thinking Celtic fans are going to be going mental. But I think there's still a week to

00:29:16go Peter and I agree with Ali. I think Celtic will bring two or three players in of quality.

00:29:20I think it takes time to get them over the line. I think clubs are reluctant to let players go

00:29:25until they've got quality in. There's not really been a lot of signings in this window. It's been

00:29:29really quiet but I think you'll see it getting ramped up in the last week of the transfer window

00:29:33and I think O'Reilly will go to Brighton and I think Celtic will bring in two or three players.

00:29:38I think they'll bring a left back someday to replace him in the middle of the park and maybe

00:29:43a centre half. So that's three. I think they'll bring three players in. The manager said if O'Reilly

00:29:47goes he needs two in the middle. Are you listening to what the manager says? Yeah, I think they'll

00:29:52get them in Peter. I think they'll get them in. I think you've just got to be patient. You think

00:29:55O'Reilly needs three? I think he needs three or four. It all depends if O'Reilly goes. I think

00:30:00he will go. Then he'll need probably two midfield players and a left back. Okay, I disagree with you.

00:30:05The point is he's got three in in two months so you're saying he's going to get four in in a week?

00:30:12I think he'll get three in in a week, yeah. A centre back, a left back, he wants two midfielders

00:30:18and he needs a centre forward. How many is that, Roffy? He'll only take a centre forward if Keogh goes.

00:30:24When the season started they probably had a board meeting and Brendan Rodgers has been at

00:30:29that board meeting and he's put a bit of paper on the table and said they're the players I want.

00:30:34So if their players don't come in he's definitely going to have something to say about it

00:30:38because I don't think it's his fault. Yeah, how many do you think he needs? I'd say five.

00:30:43So would I. I would say five. I don't think he needs another striker if Keogh is still there.

00:30:47Keogh's shoulder goes out. Maida can play through the middle. He's been playing with that shoulder

00:30:52injury for years, he's got his character. His shoulder goes and you're saying well Maida will

00:30:59play through the centre. Just put up with it. Orida? Orida. Aye. Yeah, okay. I think it all

00:31:05depends on the Celtic supporter's expectations. Are you quite happy winning a double or a treble

00:31:11and failing in Europe or do you want to do well in Europe? Yeah, okay, that's the point,

00:31:16it's a good point, Rafi. Let's throw it out there and see what everybody thinks.

00:31:21They're playing St Mirren. Stephen Robinson hopes they sell a few players.

00:31:27Hopefully, yes, hopefully. Yes, I believe Keogh and O'Reilly, that'd be great but

00:31:33they certainly won't be replaced by bad players. They'll have top quality players come in in their

00:31:38place so no matter what side they put out it will obviously be a tough task for us no matter what

00:31:43and we have to be right at the very top of our game and right at the very top of

00:31:47mentally believing that we can get a result. This is what Brendan Rodgers had to say by the way on

00:31:54the whole window. I don't think it should be reliant on players going out. We're virtually

00:32:00running it the same as where we were last season. If our idea is to improve we'll hopefully be

00:32:05active in the market this week. So that's how it's looking as far as Celtic are concerned.

00:32:13They're playing St Mirren. St Mirren have had a tough week. Yeah, early on in the season they

00:32:20haven't hit the heights of what they hit last year. Obviously the European games are having

00:32:25an effect. I think the only way they'll get something out of this game is if they bully Celtic.

00:32:29If they really get about them. I've seen them a couple of times. They've got big players.

00:32:34They can muscle them at free kicks, corners, that kind of thing but I still think

00:32:38last year when St Mirren were doing particularly well against Celtic in certain games they were on

00:32:43a high. I don't think they're on a high in this game. I think Celtic, not on a high,

00:32:48but they're winning quite comfortably. So I think Celtic will win this in the end of the day.

00:32:53Okay, 2-0. 2-0. Yeah, I think Celtic will be too strong. 3-0. 3-1 for me, Celtic.

00:33:01Okay, I'll go 2-1 Tam. Okay, give us your thoughts on that transfer window. We're going

00:33:07to be talking Aberdeen. There's a big question up in Aberdeen. It's called,

00:33:11where is Duke? We could print t-shirts on this. It's the big mystery.

00:33:16Jimmy Tallinn's going to talk about it after the headlines.

00:33:18Hi there, I'm Kerry and here is your daily news update on Friday the 23rd of August,

00:33:22brought to you by Arnold Clarke. Stephen Robinson makes no excuses for his side not advancing in the

00:33:27Premier Sports Cup due to being involved in Europe. It's taken us to all injury ways,

00:33:31you know, that we can't deny. We've practically had a whole new field out on Sunday against

00:33:36the United. We have picked up knocks and bruises, but it's not a complaint because

00:33:40we all wanted this. We all worked so, so hard for it last year.

00:33:44And St Mirren's latest signing, Killian Phillips, looks to right some wrongs from

00:33:47last season where he spent a season on loan at Aberdeen against this weekend's opponents.

00:33:52Yeah, it was tough. It's probably the worst I've probably ever felt on a football pitch,

00:33:56but the type of person I am, it's hard in the morning, but after that you can't really

00:34:03dwell on stuff like that. I think that's the best way is just to get on with my own.

00:34:07And finally, Rangers have applied to Glasgow City Council in order for a demountable safety

00:34:11netting system for high-risk pitchers to be put in place as the club look to welcome back Celtic

00:34:16fans for derbies. For all the latest breaking headlines, we'll be keeping you up to date across

00:34:19all of our social media platforms, so please don't forget to download our app and subscribe

00:34:23to PLZ Soccer's YouTube channel. I can't wait to see that net,

00:34:28Ruffey, in the first Rangers-Celtic game at Ibrox, can you?

00:34:33Well, obviously both clubs are stipulating that's going to be the case. Obviously,

00:34:40I've never been on either side in any of the other ones, so there must be some dangerous stuff going

00:34:45on. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The only net you've been used to, Ruffey, is just the one that you

00:34:53were picking the ball out of when Andy Ritchie was playing. Anyway, it's an interesting one,

00:34:59what are you going to say? No, Tom asked me to do something for Andy Ritchie, he's got a big

00:35:03night coming up. Yeah, we've got to, we've got to. The guy told me you have to send a wee WhatsApp

00:35:08video, 30 seconds about Andy Ritchie, I've not done it yet, have you? No, I'll do that today.

00:35:12Only asked you two weeks ago. Yeah, okay. Nothing like having a squabble on here, those two, and

00:35:18then you and I, Ali, beating each other up. What about the Dandy Dons? Let's talk about the Dons,

00:35:25Ruffey, because this is a strange situation we find ourselves in here. Aberdeen taking on Kilmarnock,

00:35:33Aberdeen have done well, six, I think, permanent signings, maybe a few more to come. This is what

00:35:39Jimmy Tolleen makes of it all. My focus is with them right now, and then we have some,

00:35:45some, we always have to respect the windows. It can be in both directions. Someone can come

00:35:49for our players, and so we always have to be prepared and think about the long term,

00:35:54but also working in the short term and prepare for the games and pushing the players here,

00:35:59see them grow, how the team spirit is when we celebrate the goals, everybody's there to

00:36:05celebrate, and so right now I think we are in a good place, but as I told you before,

00:36:11when the windows close, and then we know the answer, so I can't tell any more about that.

00:36:16No, I haven't anything new to say there, no, nothing more. Is he here?

00:36:23He's not here, yeah. Yeah, the search goes on, it's where is Duke?

00:36:33Yes, we've just come from here. Yeah, you think he's back home? I would think so,

00:36:36it's a lovely place, I'd be there as well.

00:36:38I have a choice.

00:36:42It is actually shocking, but it's really disrespectful to the manager and the club,

00:36:45isn't it? I mean, imagine just going AWOL. I can't believe it, you'll not be able to play

00:36:50football under UEFA and FIFA guidelines. You cannot have a contract at Aberdeen and then

00:36:54suddenly just down tools, unless you're playing for the local Sunday pub team.

00:36:58Yeah, well people give him advice, now agents say, oh this is the way you're going to get out

00:37:02of that contract, this is it, but you're putting yourself out of the game, you know, I mean,

00:37:06he was a good player, he was exciting to watch when he got there, but I don't know what's going

00:37:10on behind the scenes, but he definitely can't go back there, it wouldn't be accepted.

00:37:14Do you know what, some professionals, well, it only has to look at the way Bojan Mijovski

00:37:18handled it, you know, he was getting linked to whole, you know, the whole summer he was

00:37:21getting linked to clubs, he went and trained hard, pre-season as well, played in the League

00:37:25Cup games and got his move. Duke's now half the player he is and he's just disappeared,

00:37:29so I think if you're a club manager, you're thinking, his attitude already, just disappearing,

00:37:33I wouldn't fancy saying it on my own.

00:37:35There's lots of players, Tam, who, we knew right away he wanted to leave, there's obviously

00:37:41a bid coming for him, and Aberdeen have said, no, you're not getting it, so he's through

00:37:45the dummy at the prom and he's just off-skiing, there's players like that, you know, who say,

00:37:49well, I'm not getting my way, so I'm just leaving.

00:37:52I'll try to think.

00:37:52It's the wrong way, it's the wrong way to think.

00:37:54There is a player in the past, I think, who downed tools and just disappeared,

00:37:58I can't remember who it was.

00:37:59Marta Viduca?

00:38:00Marta Viduca was a good one, Marta Viduca.

00:38:04Marta Viduca was a good one, you know, because you just kind of, you just wonder, it's disrespectful,

00:38:10I agree with you Tam, it's disrespectful to the club, but it's going to get resolved

00:38:14sooner or later.

00:38:15The one thing that's not bothering anybody up in Aberdeen is, well, Duke's not there,

00:38:21let's crack on, seven wins out of seven, the boy that he brought in, Sievert Nielsen,

00:38:26he's been a sensation in the middle with Shinnie, what do you call, yeah, Shinnie, Graham Shinnie.

00:38:33Yeah, I mean, I don't want to knock anything they've done, you go out and win games, you win

00:38:37them, you go on a run, fantastic, I don't think at this moment in time they've been tested at all,

00:38:42they haven't played Rangers, they haven't played Celtic, correct me if I'm wrong,

00:38:45they've not played Hibs or Hearts either, have they?

00:38:47They've been fortunate in two games as well, they've played two teams right after Europe.

00:38:52I'm fire, they've won seven out of seven here, by the way.

00:38:56You want to read out who they beat?

00:38:58No, no, I will put it into perspective, but can I just say this to you,

00:39:03this is a team famous for sacking managers over the last two or three years, you know,

00:39:09they've gone nowhere, they were bottom end of the table, Aberdeen shouldn't be in the bottom six.

00:39:14No, no, I know it's an improvement this year, but I don't think we can judge how

00:39:18well they've improved until they play the teams that I've just mentioned there just now.

00:39:22Yeah, Queen of South, Frisco Bride, Airdrie, Dumbarton, St Johnston, St Mirren, Queen's Park.

00:39:30I think Camarnock, Ross County, Motherwell, Spartans and Dundee before they play Hearts.

00:39:37Yeah.

00:39:37I mean, I don't know who's arranged their fixtures, Dave Cormack?

00:39:45Plus they've played St Mirren after Europe and they've got to play Camarnock after Europe,

00:39:48so everything's just fell into place for the Dundee Dons, sorry.

00:39:50It's not about winning your games, it's not about winning your games.

00:39:53I think it's something that can set a tone, just early off.

00:39:55It is, confidence.

00:39:58This is a team who've been losing games at the start of last season.

00:40:03Once Tam's mates have gone in, they've just absolutely killed them.

00:40:06But you're now in a situation where he just wanted to get in and hit the ground running.

00:40:11I agree with you.

00:40:12By the way, if you look at it, you're right Tam, they're playing Camarnock after Europe.

00:40:17Ross County, Motherwell and Spartans, they actually could have,

00:40:21and Dundee, they could have 11 or 12 wins back to back.

00:40:26The whole town going mental.

00:40:28An open top bus.

00:40:30A big thing at the P&J, they welcomed the team in, 12 wins on the trot.

00:40:35But nevertheless, Shafiq, it gathers momentum.

00:40:38They'll be happy, the flags will be out.

00:40:41I've never seen so many flags in my life.

00:40:42Aberdeen bringing the goal, these big enormous things.

00:40:45See if I had a season ticket there, I'd seriously think about moving, would you?

00:40:48I think it's bang out of order, Dave Cormack looking for nine o'clock kick-offs

00:40:52with a St Mirren and a Camarnock game in the morning.

00:40:57Well, listen, you're right, momentum goes a long way.

00:41:02But I'll tell you one thing he's generated quickly, Ali, is a feel-good factor about it all.

00:41:07Yeah, that's what I mean.

00:41:08I think it just sets a very early tone.

00:41:10I think it just puts a bit of confidence, a bit of belief straight into the squad.

00:41:14I think you can see Aberdeen fans are delighted.

00:41:17You can sense the optimism around the club and the expectation

00:41:21of them going and challenging for third place.

00:41:24I still think it's fairly early days.

00:41:26When you have a look at who they've played and what's still to come,

00:41:29I still think it's very early to make a judgment.

00:41:31However, what you would see is it's exactly what you would have wanted,

00:41:35to put in place a manager, win games, bank points

00:41:39and just find a confidence and a stability within a club that's lacked that.

00:41:43Good point.

00:41:44And by the way, can I just say to you, when we talk about you always mention this,

00:41:48about, oh, you don't, I mean, I do read out people who absolutely give it to me

00:41:53in the neck, but we get belted on Twitter this week.

00:41:56Did you see it?

00:41:57No.

00:41:57Those Aberdeen fans have reposted when we said,

00:42:01we can't believe they never gave Neil Lennon or Malcolm Mackay

00:42:04or somebody else the job and they are absolutely...

00:42:06Certainly those.

00:42:07Well, this is my point.

00:42:08I mean, they haven't played anybody yet.

00:42:11Well, this is their battering us,

00:42:12but I'm going to read out something from people who are Aberdeen fans.

00:42:17Some who may not be, but they're very positive.

00:42:20Studs says, the Northern Lights are shining Aberdeen for second place.

00:42:26There's a shout.

00:42:27Kenny Merchant, who's in LA, a little bit of a sensible approach here.

00:42:32He says, we are still a work in progress,

00:42:35which I think is a sensible way to look at it.

00:42:37The Flying Haggis says, the football team is the business.

00:42:42He's talking about Celtic.

00:42:43Sorry, I just read one out, I shouldn't have.

00:42:46And obviously, quite a lot of people have said on our feed,

00:42:50Aberdeen will finish second.

00:42:52I'm not so sure about that.

00:42:53Thomas Lyons says, Aberdeen will finish second this year behind Celtic.

00:42:58I think it's too early, Peter.

00:42:59I think it's far too early.

00:43:01Not too early, but we've got broadcasters saying,

00:43:05sack them, back them, sack them, back them,

00:43:07with the managers and players in the last couple of seasons.

00:43:10They've got a real chance to build a lot of momentum before they come into...

00:43:13I think there's a three or four game spell

00:43:15where they've got Celtic Rangers and, I think, Hearts.

00:43:18So they're going to come into tougher fixtures,

00:43:20but they've got a great opportunity, as you said,

00:43:22to read the fixtures out,

00:43:24to be up near the top of the league before they play those games.

00:43:27Aberdeen come on it?

00:43:312-0 to Aberdeen.

00:43:32I think, again, they're getting Kamarnik at a perfect time,

00:43:34in between two tough games with Copenhagen.

00:43:372-0 to Aberdeen.

00:43:38Raffy?

00:43:39Aberdeen just 2-1.

00:43:412-1.

00:43:41Yeah, I'm going to go with that, Raffy.

00:43:432-0 to Aberdeen.

00:43:442-0 to Aberdeen.

00:43:45I think it's a lot to ask of Kamarnik,

00:43:47coming on the back of Copenhagen,

00:43:50a pretty tough night for them,

00:43:51then all the travelling, coming back and then heading up north.

00:43:54Yeah, just so you can take the heat off Tam and myself,

00:43:57when do you think that Aberdeen bubble will burst?

00:44:04I think the proof will be in the pudding

00:44:06when they start to come up against top six opposition.

00:44:10When they're playing teams that are going to be there and thereabouts.

00:44:13I think realistically, they should be looking to push for third place.

00:44:16So when they come up against hearts,

00:44:19you'll get an indication of where they are.

00:44:21Celtic Rangers, Hubs, obviously.

00:44:23Here's a point I'm going to make to you, Ali,

00:44:24which is the key part for us on this programme.

00:44:28Do you remember the Ronnie Daly years, Raffy?

00:44:31And at that point, Aberdeen were top of the league.

00:44:35Top of the league, right?

00:44:36And then they hit October.

00:44:39And they hit October in one of the Ronnie Daly years.

00:44:41And Ronnie Daly, for me, was a hopeless Celtic manager.

00:44:45And many of the team who played for him thought he was hopeless.

00:44:50But still, Derek MacInnes hit the top.

00:44:52Look at Ali's face, waiting to see what I'm going to say.

00:44:55But Derek MacInnes' team hit the top of the table in October.

00:44:59They never won a game and they were gone.

00:45:01Here's Aberdeen in October, Raffy.

00:45:03And this is going to be the making or breaking of them.

00:45:06On the 5th of October, it's Aberdeen versus Harts.

00:45:10Then they go to Celtic Park on the 19th.

00:45:12Then they've got Dundee United.

00:45:14Then they've got Rangers.

00:45:15And then they've got Hibs on the 2nd of November.

00:45:19October.

00:45:20We'll judge Jimmy Tilleen's team.

00:45:22Is that fair?

00:45:22Yes.

00:45:23Yep, absolutely.

00:45:24Happy with that?

00:45:25Okay, we'll look at it then.

00:45:27So we think the Dandy Dons are going to win that one.

00:45:29So how are Motherwell going to work out against Harts?

00:45:32Is there an advantage there for them at home?

00:45:35I think there is.

00:45:36I think, again, Harts coming off a pretty tough night.

00:45:40Also with one eye on the return leg on Thursday night.

00:45:43I think it might be a draw.

00:45:46I'm going to go for one each.

00:45:49I think it depends what team he puts out, obviously.

00:45:51God's sake.

00:45:53He tampered with the team against Falkirk last week.

00:45:55He left 5 or 6, his first team, out and you saw what happened.

00:45:59He put the 5 or 6 back in the other night and they played well.

00:46:02So if he goes out and drops that 5 or 6 again, I think Motherwell will be good enough to get a draw.

00:46:07There's not a catch chance in hell, I think, of him dropping anybody.

00:46:10I think he needs to play his strongest team.

00:46:13They've not won a game yet, Harts.

00:46:14Yeah, but they've got that game coming up.

00:46:15You know, what are you talking about?

00:46:17Your one game or what?

00:46:19Three million in the next round?

00:46:20You've got to play your strongest team, Ruffey.

00:46:23That's what I'm saying.

00:46:23It needs to be seen.

00:46:24No, I think he actually got his fingers burnt against Falkirk.

00:46:29And the reaction from the fans when he took off Yandanda.

00:46:32And again, I am a Stevie Naismith fan.

00:46:35I think some Harts fans, just the same as Hibbs, and obviously the Dons fans have been there as well,

00:46:43I think some Harts fans need to take their foot off and just say,

00:46:47listen, calm down here.

00:46:50This is a manager who got you third.

00:46:52He's young.

00:46:53He's learning in the game.

00:46:54He's got some good experienced people behind him.

00:46:56He's got a really good board.

00:46:58Belt up and let him get the games under his belt.

00:47:02If he secures European football for Harts.

00:47:05Yeah, I mean, what a kitty they're going to take in.

00:47:07Yeah, but for these people who haven't managed to buy him over,

00:47:12you know, finishing third last year hasn't helped him.

00:47:15Because if he doesn't finish third this year, that mob are still going to be on his back.

00:47:18So he's probably got pressure on himself.

00:47:21I think they will be the third team.

00:47:24I think, I hope they get into Europe.

00:47:26I really hope that they get through.

00:47:28So it'll be great.

00:47:29Hello, Harts.

00:47:31Again, I said team lines.

00:47:33If he plays his first team, if he plays his best team, he'll win 2-1.

00:47:36He'll win 2-1.

00:47:37Let me take you back.

00:47:38If he doesn't play his full team, he'll draw one each.

00:47:40Let me take you back, Ruffey.

00:47:41This is the difference between you and I from 12 years ago.

00:47:4412 years ago, I used to work in a programme where if somebody said F butts and maybes,

00:47:50they got a baseball bat over the head.

00:47:53On Super Scoreboard, we just did not tolerate maybes, couldbes, shouldas, wouldas, couldas.

00:47:58Just give us the bloody prediction, will you?

00:48:00I've given you my prediction.

00:48:02I've told you my two predictions.

00:48:03That's my opinion.

00:48:08If he plays his best team, he wins.

00:48:09If he doesn't, he doesn't win.

00:48:11Right, okay.

00:48:12Oh my God.

00:48:13Are we giving two predictions to everybody?

00:48:14No, I'll give him two.

00:48:15We'll just give you two every week.

00:48:16Just give us, listen.

00:48:18Oh my God.

00:48:20I just want to tell you something.

00:48:21That's a bit, you get what I'm coming for.

00:48:24If you, do you know what?

00:48:25Just pick a prediction.

00:48:26Exactly.

00:48:27He says to me.

00:48:28Okay, hearts 2-1.

00:48:30There you go.

00:48:30We got there in the end.

00:48:31Hearts 2-1 for me and I think they'll play their strongest team.

00:48:33Yeah.

00:48:34They need to win a game.

00:48:35You know, sometimes in midweek, Tam, he'll say to me,

00:48:37see if you play the ball over the net, we've got a chance of getting a point here.

00:48:40But if you don't, we've lost the point.

00:48:42You can't think of that, Ruffey.

00:48:43It's unbelievable.

00:48:44You won't hear him many times I say that.

00:48:46So, Ali, rather than, and I've never known you to shirk your responsibility on an opinion.

00:48:55You've been absolutely magnificent.

00:48:57I think I've really, since you joined us full time, it's been great.

00:49:00You know, you become used to up for a fight.

00:49:04I don't think you always welcome my opinion, Peter.

00:49:06My opinion sometimes isn't shared with you.

00:49:11No, I'll be honest with you.

00:49:12Since Emily Pankhurst threw herself out in front of a horse,

00:49:16and I have seven sisters, I am all for equality.

00:49:20But just not all for agreeing with it.

00:49:22Indeed.

00:49:23What do you think?

00:49:24Four Motherwell hearts.

00:49:25I said one, one.

00:49:26I said a draw.

00:49:27Two one hearts.

00:49:28Two one hearts.

00:49:28I'll go.

00:49:29He's best team.

00:49:31I'll go two.

00:49:33I'll go two one hearts as well.

00:49:35I think the Jambos are just about to turn a few things around and get into it.

00:49:40Okay.

00:49:41What about your team?

00:49:43The Hibbys.

00:49:44Now, I'm going to go through there to Easter Road.

00:49:46Have a wee look at them.

00:49:46If you're a Jonah.

00:49:48Would you think so?

00:49:48Yep.

00:49:49Well, they're playing against one of the best teams in the league.

00:49:51Yeah, they are.

00:49:52And this is a big, big game for Hibbs.

00:49:53I think they've obviously had a poor start to the season.

00:49:57Back-to-back games against Celtic is always tough.

00:49:59But now they're on a fixture where they're playing Dundee at home.

00:50:02They're playing Kilmarnock away in the middle, just after Copenhagen at home.

00:50:07Again, they're getting Kilmarnock.

00:50:08And then just after the break, I think they've got St Johnstone at home.

00:50:10So they've got three games coming up.

00:50:12They should be looking to take seven to nine points.

00:50:15If they do that, then they're off David Gray's back.

00:50:19They'll start believing in him and believing in the squad and the team.

00:50:22If they don't, then the questions will keep getting asked.

00:50:24So, huge game.

00:50:26I think Dundee will be round about the top six again this season.

00:50:28They've been really impressed.

00:50:29They've scored a lot of goals.

00:50:31They've got a lot of younger players on their team.

00:50:34They've got legs.

00:50:35They've got Simon Murray up front, puts you under pressure.

00:50:37Really tough game for Hibbs.

00:50:40And I'm going to sit on the fence with this one.

00:50:41I think there'll be goals in it, Peter.

00:50:42But I just don't think Hibbs are ready yet to go and beat Dundee.

00:50:46I'll go for two each.

00:50:46What do you make of the manager's comments?

00:50:49That he is looking at individual mistakes and he's going to have to,

00:50:54you know, basically, they want to cut them out,

00:50:57but they obviously want to look at teams,

00:50:59some of the players and say, listen,

00:51:00if you keep making them, you're not going to be in the team.

00:51:02Well, unfortunately, it's the two signings that he's made up,

00:51:04making these mistakes.

00:51:05And the goalkeeper, Bursic and Ikepeti, I think his name is,

00:51:08and the centre-half, they've made mistakes this season,

00:51:11particularly in the game against Celtic at the weekend.

00:51:13So he's got to stick with them.

00:51:15He's signed them, you know, and he's got to stick with these players.

00:51:17He's got to hope that they take on board his comments

00:51:19and they focus and don't make any other mistakes.

00:51:23But I think it's a really difficult game for them.

00:51:25They had a good record last season against Dundee.

00:51:27Hibbs took, I think, seven points, 79 against them.

00:51:30But I'm just not convinced about Hibbs defensively as of yet.

00:51:33They might need to score three to win the game.

00:51:35I don't think they will.

00:51:36I'll go for two each.

00:51:36OK, I'm going to go for 1-1, Roffy.

00:51:38I'm going to go for Dundee.

00:51:40And the reason I'm going for Dundee

00:51:41is I want to see the Tom McManus column next week

00:51:43because it's sort of a wee...

00:51:45We might wee clip-on.

00:51:46Clip-on, what they used to have,

00:51:48the audience would go for it and not go for it.

00:51:50His wee clip-on just doesn't know which way to go.

00:51:54So I'm waiting to see...

00:51:55Is that a gauge?

00:51:55I'm waiting to see...

00:51:56Is that a gauge?

00:51:57I'm waiting to see if Dundee win which way this...

00:52:00Yeah.

00:52:01Clip-o-meter, it's called.

00:52:02I think...

00:52:03I have no idea.

00:52:04Is that a thing?

00:52:05Clip-o-meter?

00:52:05I have no clue what you're talking about, Roffy.

00:52:08Other than there used to be, in a 1970s programme,

00:52:12a clap-o-meter, which is basically the applause

00:52:15when you stayed on the show.

00:52:18I think Bob Monkhouse was involved in it at one point.

00:52:20But with that in mind,

00:52:22I think what you're trying to say, Roffy,

00:52:23is he's sitting on the fence at the moment.

00:52:25We haven't really got one way or the other

00:52:27from him in your column.

00:52:29Every now and then, it's well worth a read

00:52:32because apparently now what's happening is,

00:52:35you know, eventually what will happen is

00:52:36they just get a big, giant bunch of cakes

00:52:38and they all sit there with their...

00:52:40They all sit there and they do their coffee clubs

00:52:42and everything, you know.

00:52:44They've got a copy in some way, Ali,

00:52:45but they're now putting cakes in there and everything,

00:52:47you know.

00:52:49It's only a matter of time until...

00:52:50He has a record of obviously playing with that many clubs.

00:52:54He's now getting a record of how many pals

00:52:56and manager's jeebs are getting sacked.

00:52:59So he's now going for that record as well.

00:53:02So there's another one.

00:53:03Ali, Dundee, Hibbs.

00:53:06I'm going to go for a draw.

00:53:08Yeah.

00:53:11I think you've seen tentative signs within games.

00:53:15I think they could have folded against Celtic

00:53:17that first game at Eastside Road when it went to 2-0.

00:53:20I thought they rallied a wee bit.

00:53:21I thought you saw glimpses in the second period.

00:53:25I thought they shot themselves in the foot at Celtic Park.

00:53:27That third goal was just a car crash.

00:53:30But obviously they'll be judged on games like this.

00:53:33I don't think they've got quite enough to go and beat

00:53:35a Dundee team that have been very impressive.

00:53:37Picked up from where they left off last season.

00:53:39I'm going to go for a draw.

00:53:40Dundee United have only lost 1-7, Ruffey.

00:53:44They're against St Johnstone.

00:53:46I think St Johnstone are putting up a wee bit of a fight this year.

00:53:50They just don't seem to have the players to win games.

00:53:54Obviously they've let the boy May go.

00:53:57I think they'll be stubborn at Dundee United.

00:53:59But I think Dundee United are on a wee bit of a high now.

00:54:02And I think they'll just narrowly win this 1-2-1.

00:54:05Yeah, I think Dundee United have got enough to win that game at home.

00:54:09I think the players that they've brought in the forward areas have been impressive so far.

00:54:13Good result last week in the Cup.

00:54:15Decent start to the season, Dundee United with two draws.

00:54:18I think they'll win this game 2-1 as well.

00:54:20OK, Dundee United 2-0.

00:54:222-1

00:54:22OK, English Premier League fixtures.

00:54:25Here's how it looks down south at this moment.

00:54:28Brighton, Manchester United, Crystal Palace, West Ham, Fulham against Leicester,

00:54:33City against Ipswich, Southampton, Nottingham Forest,

00:54:36Tottenham against Everton, Aston Villa, Arsenal,

00:54:39Bournemouth, Newcastle, Wolves against Chelsea,

00:54:42and Liverpool against Brentford.

00:54:44We hang on the every word of some managers,

00:54:47especially round about the transfer window.

00:54:51And as Brendan Rodgers mentioned, everybody expects a full bus of players

00:54:56to be heading out of Celtic Park.

00:54:58They're getting a few out.

00:54:59The big fear is when Kiyoko is linked with Manchester City,

00:55:03but this is what Pep Guardiola had to say on transfers.

00:55:06I don't know.

00:55:06I don't think so.

00:55:07By the way, I said before,

00:55:08so I don't know what's going to happen at the end of the market.

00:55:11Maybe happen something in terms of injuries.

00:55:14Hopefully not in terms of, I don't know,

00:55:16the market provided something unexpected that financially

00:55:19is good for us or for the tactical wise as well.

00:55:22So right now, I don't think so.

00:55:26Well, what he's saying, Ravi,

00:55:27as you were pulling your microphone down,

00:55:31he's basically saying he doesn't expect too much transfer activity,

00:55:34if at all, for Man City now.

00:55:36You're saying this Kiyoko thing is just speculation?

00:55:39Well, listen, if it isn't,

00:55:41it's going to be a big week for Celtic in the transfer window.

00:55:45I don't expect them to go out,

00:55:46if I'm being perfectly honest with you.

00:55:48The other thing I would say to you is,

00:55:49he's brought back Gundawan.

00:55:51It's the deal of the century for me,

00:55:53Gundawan coming back on a free from Barcelona.

00:55:56How good is that, Ali?

00:55:58It's going to bring forth another top 10 though, isn't it?

00:56:01It is indeed, Ali, because,

00:56:05and again, Ali hates top 10s,

00:56:08but I'll tell you,

00:56:09players that should never go back, Rafi,

00:56:11I've got 10 here,

00:56:13do you want to take a wee stab at some of the names I've got?

00:56:15No.

00:56:16Players that have played for a club and have gone back,

00:56:19so Ronaldo went back to Manchester United,

00:56:23didn't quite work out,

00:56:24although from my point of view,

00:56:25in the first season,

00:56:26he scored 28 goals for Man United.

00:56:29I don't know what more he had to do in a duff team,

00:56:32but he went back.

00:56:33I'll tell you another person who went back,

00:56:35he's an old friend of ours,

00:56:37an old pal of yours and an old pal of mine.

00:56:39He's an old teammate of yours

00:56:40and I worked with him for eight years.

00:56:42It was Charlotte and Derek.

00:56:44Derek?

00:56:44Derek.

00:56:45Did you?

00:56:45Did you? He went back to Rangers.

00:56:46Yeah, you went back as a centre-half,

00:56:48but did he not?

00:56:49Still, still went back.

00:56:51I'm not saying he was,

00:56:52I'm not saying,

00:56:52he wasn't as good as he was first time around,

00:56:54but Derek, for me,

00:56:55was just a top-drawer player.

00:56:57Yeah, I liked him as a striker.

00:56:59By the way,

00:56:59DJ could play midfield and centre-half,

00:57:01he was that good.

00:57:03So, Charlie Nicholas?

00:57:06Yep.

00:57:07Second time around,

00:57:08Charlie actually scored goals,

00:57:09but again,

00:57:11you know,

00:57:12the narrative that you talk about

00:57:13in a fairly duff team.

00:57:14We're talking about Celtic in 1990, 1991?

00:57:1794, yeah.

00:57:19Mark Haley went back.

00:57:20Remember, Rangers brought Mark Haley back in?

00:57:22No, I didn't, no, no.

00:57:24Yeah, Mark Haley was brought back in

00:57:25for an Old Firm game,

00:57:26the one that Jackie McNamara

00:57:27landed a punch on his jaw

00:57:29and then ran away.

00:57:32Because I would run away.

00:57:34I was going to punch Mark Haley

00:57:36and make sure I had trainers on.

00:57:38But, Sean Maloney went back.

00:57:41I'll tell you another one,

00:57:42Kevin McAllister, Falkirk.

00:57:43I mean, crunch,

00:57:44he was just a brilliant player, Derek.

00:57:46Yeah, I can't understand

00:57:49why he never went to one of the bigger clubs,

00:57:51because he was an old-style winger,

00:57:53somebody who could take people on

00:57:55and create, get spectators off their seat.

00:57:58You're counting Hibs as a bigger club?

00:58:01Didn't do much there.

00:58:02Yeah.

00:58:02By the way, what about...

00:58:05I thought he was a great player.

00:58:06I thought Kevin McAllister was a great player.

00:58:08Neil McCann went back to Hearts.

00:58:09Rudy Scatchell went back.

00:58:12The guy, obviously,

00:58:13that you're moving to the podcast,

00:58:15your new podcast,

00:58:17Makaveni, you and Frank.

00:58:19You and Frank getting together, eh?

00:58:22I thought that was a great story told

00:58:24about getting to Celtic

00:58:26when he was signing for Partick Thistle.

00:58:27Yes, absolutely.

00:58:28Out in the park.

00:58:29Yeah, that's just...

00:58:30Fantastic story.

00:58:31There's not many people who could do that.

00:58:33If you're a Partick Thistle fan,

00:58:34it's not a great story.

00:58:35He was just about to sign for Partick.

00:58:37He'd been paraded in the Partick Thistle shirt

00:58:40and the scarf at Fairhill, on the pitch,

00:58:43and he got a call from Liam Brady,

00:58:45who says to him,

00:58:46have you signed in yet?

00:58:46He went, no.

00:58:47He says, come over and re-sign for Celtic.

00:58:49I mean, honestly,

00:58:49if I was a Partick Thistle fan,

00:58:52I would have had a go at him.

00:58:54Anyway, Kenny Miller.

00:58:56Kenny Miller.

00:58:57And Kenny Miller, I thought,

00:58:59was a success second time around at Rangers too.

00:59:01Is that fair?

00:59:02Yeah.

00:59:02I thought Kenny was good at Rangers

00:59:05second time around.

00:59:06So there's just...

00:59:07Why he's on that list then?

00:59:08Eh?

00:59:09Well, it wasn't a list of...

00:59:11Just people who went back?

00:59:12Just people who went back.

00:59:13Whether you think they're successful or not,

00:59:15there's some that are not.

00:59:16I mean, Pogba was a nightmare.

00:59:18Yes.

00:59:19Struggled.

00:59:20Yeah.

00:59:21Never struggled.

00:59:21He was hopeless.

00:59:23Yes.

00:59:23Yeah, absolutely.

00:59:26Ruffy, just a couple of things before we go.

00:59:28I saw a great thing in TikTok,

00:59:29which I think is ideal for you guys.

00:59:31Before we go, just before we go,

00:59:33Ruffy, a quick one.

00:59:35It was one of those ones,

00:59:35you know how you flick round

00:59:36and then there's a wee question that comes up?

00:59:38And it came up and it said,

00:59:39what three words would you tell yourself

00:59:41as an 18-year-old?

00:59:43Three words.

00:59:44If you could come back

00:59:45and just whisper in your ear.

00:59:47Now, by the way,

00:59:48we've got 60 seconds to go.

00:59:49Keep it clean.

00:59:51Keep it clean and we'll never be on again.

00:59:52Three words.

00:59:54Don't do that.

01:00:01That's just...

01:00:03That's...

01:00:04I'll not even bother going anywhere else.

01:00:05That is brilliant, isn't it?

01:00:07Three.

01:00:08Must work harder.

01:00:11Damn, I could not think of three better words

01:00:14for yourself.

01:00:15You'd still say that now.

01:00:17Yeah.

01:00:19Worked harder than I did back then.

01:00:20Yeah, absolutely.

01:00:22Mines would be...

01:00:23Mines, I just thought,

01:00:24mines, Ali,

01:00:25and I know you're going to agree with me,

01:00:27shut your mouth.

01:00:30Ali, have you got three?

01:00:32Don't drink that.

01:00:35Ali, that is absolutely brilliant.

01:00:37Anyway, listen,

01:00:38enjoy your football at the weekend.

01:00:39Get out there and support

01:00:41the Scottish Premiership if you can,

01:00:43the Championship,

01:00:44League One and League Two.

01:00:45And by the way,

01:00:47you know,

01:00:47great that the SWPL,

01:00:49I know we have the women's football show,

01:00:51the figures,

01:00:52more and more people are starting to get out there

01:00:54and go and watch the women's game as well, Ali.

01:00:56Yeah, the numbers per games have gone up.

01:00:59Percentages seem to be rising season on season.

01:01:02I think it augurs well.

01:01:03There's a lot of work still to be done.

01:01:06I think clubs would be the first to see that.

01:01:09The league bosses would be the first to see it.

01:01:11But I think the more exposure it gets,

01:01:12the better chance it's got of attracting people in.

01:01:15Absolutely.

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