Stephanie Winters rejects advances from a friend so he steals a piece of her hair and threatens to put a spell on her. Not too long after, a demonic spirit starts terrorizing the couple.
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00:00A young woman is repeatedly attacked by an unseen entity in her home.
00:12I felt hands around my throat.
00:17Paranormal investigators try to identify the presence, but it's a desperate race against
00:22time.
00:23Crush Satan on your feet.
00:25Stephanie?
00:26And culminating in a final battle between the forces of good and evil.
00:32My wife is dying.
00:35In America, there is real evil.
00:38It lurks in the darkest shadows and in our most ordinary towns.
00:43Between the worlds we see and the things we fear, there are doors.
00:49When they are opened, nightmares become reality.
01:03Over 150 years ago, the soil of Manassas was awash in blood as the American Civil War raged.
01:11Two major battles at Bull Run saw more than 20,000 wounded or killed.
01:17There are those who believe the land around here has been permanently scarred, infused
01:22with the tortured souls of men, women, and children who died before their time.
01:34In the fall of 2008, Manassas resident Stephanie Winter attends a party at her friend Peter's
01:40apartment.
01:42She discovers he has a fascination with the dark arts.
01:48I noticed on his shelf, he had books that I'd never heard of.
01:52The Necronomicon includes magic spells and advice on how to summon demons and spirits.
01:59Actually, it's a real useful book.
02:02Yeah, if you're dead, you should spend some time amongst the living, Peter.
02:07I was just hoping to spend a little bit more time with you.
02:10I think he got the wrong impression.
02:16In his mind, I had feelings for him, which was not the case.
02:20What's the problem?
02:23You know what the problem is, man.
02:24I'm married.
02:25Okay?
02:26Get it.
02:27I'm just paying you a compliment.
02:29Lay off.
02:30The more I tried to tell him no, the more persistent he got.
02:37He pulled some of my hair out.
02:39What are you doing?
02:41Just getting what I need for a love spell.
02:46A love spell?
02:47You are sick.
02:49At that point, I was done.
02:52I didn't want any part of anybody who was into that sort of thing.
03:05Despite the strange night, Stephanie is up the next morning at 5 a.m., eager to get to
03:10work on the home she and her husband just moved into.
03:12Going to work this morning?
03:14It's just late shifts.
03:17It's a lot of unpacking to do.
03:20The couple has been married for just a year.
03:23Stephanie's a bartender at a local restaurant.
03:25Her husband, Nicholas, works in construction.
03:27Did you have fun last night?
03:32I should have stayed here.
03:34Something wrong?
03:35Everything all right?
03:36Yeah, no.
03:37Everything's fine.
03:38I just, um...
03:39I just have a lot of unpacking to do.
03:43Yeah, well, once we get it done, we can finally call this place home.
03:48I was excited to be moving into a house out of an apartment, and it was a step in the
03:53direction that I was trying to go in life.
03:57Oh, yes.
03:58I'll be home by 6 tonight.
04:01Okay.
04:02See you.
04:03I was happier than I'd been in a really long time, and I was looking forward to making
04:07it home for my husband and I.
04:09You forgot something, babe?
04:18You forgot something?
04:21What are you doing here?
04:24Peace offering.
04:27Did you wait until Nick left?
04:31No.
04:32I was just bringing you flowers.
04:33He was coming by my house 5.30 in the morning on his way to work, and it just really made
04:39me uncomfortable.
04:40Well, I didn't realize you wanted to get all dressed up for me.
04:48You need to leave, all right?
04:50Get out.
04:51Okay?
04:52What?
04:53You don't want to say no to me.
04:54Get out!
04:55Get out!
04:56It got to the point where I felt like I was hiding in, you know, my own home.
05:09I finally had to completely shut it down and tell him to stop calling me, don't contact
05:15me, please, nothing.
05:20Weeks go by.
05:22Sally's unwanted admirer stays away, but has he really heeded her request to leave her
05:28in peace?
05:41What was that?
05:46I don't know.
05:48Is there somebody in the house?
05:51Can I get my bat?
05:54No, wait, what if they have guns?
05:58Shh.
06:18Okay.
06:22That's so weird. What do you think did that?
06:26That's so weird.
06:28Let me go check the rest of the house.
06:30Be careful.
06:31Stay here.
06:33Be careful.
06:52It's okay, it's okay. I checked the doors, I checked the windows.
06:57No one?
06:58No, nothing's unlocked.
07:00There was no way that it could have been an intruder.
07:04We're thinking maybe we didn't have it set up there right, or you know, it slipped off or something.
07:08A lot of stuff, that's heavy.
07:10Our nerves were all jangled.
07:12Eventually we fell asleep and really didn't think too much more about it.
07:22Weeks later, Nick is working at home.
07:26As a hobby, he creates free tattoos for friends and enjoys the challenge of coming up with new designs.
07:32I see this candlestick thing hit the wall out of the corner of my eye.
07:36It made this big black mark on the wall.
07:56I put that there, I said,
07:58I started talking to my wife about it, and we were like, the only thing that could be
08:17doing something like that would be like a ghost.
08:43I'm looking at her back, and I see blood start to form.
09:00It was really burning.
09:03It was just on fire.
09:13I'm just getting what I need for a love spell.
09:23There have been disturbing events in Nicholas and Stephanie Winters' home ever since she
09:28told a lovestruck friend with a fascination for the dark arts to leave her alone.
09:35It is now February 2009, a year since the trouble started.
09:51She was scared, and I was too, because there was no explanation for this.
09:58There were no tears in my clothing.
10:02I have a shirt on.
10:03I'm underneath blankets.
10:05How did that happen?
10:08Hey, sweetie, how are you?
10:23Thanks for coming.
10:24A few days later, Stephanie receives a visit from a close friend, accompanied by someone
10:30who may be able to offer some answers.
10:32No, I haven't been anywhere.
10:33But thanks for bringing her by.
10:37Sure.
10:38This is the lady I was telling you about.
10:40There was a lady that I knew through church,
10:43and she had a friend who was sensitive.
10:45She could feel, see certain things.
10:49So, do you like the Tencent tour?
10:53Come on, I'll show you around.
10:55She'd walked around, and walked around the house,
10:58and walked around outside.
11:04I sense the land has quite a history.
11:09She told me a husband, a wife, and their son.
11:13I know you've been unfaithful!
11:15No, no, I haven't been.
11:17The father was extremely jealous.
11:20Dad! Dad, stop!
11:22Boys, I told you before!
11:25He'd ended up killing the mother and the son.
11:29It was the father that was haunting the property.
11:32I don't know if I reminded him of his wife,
11:35or, or, you know, what.
11:40A few nights later,
11:42the mother and the son were gone.
11:45They were gone forever.
11:47They were gone forever.
11:49They were gone forever.
11:52A few nights later,
11:54Stephanie's scratches don't appear to be healing.
12:08It shocked me in the sense that I was actually seeing a spirit.
12:15I'd only seen him for a couple of seconds,
12:19but I saw him, I mean, clear.
12:21The look on his face, I just, I'll never forget that.
12:24He, he just looked very sad.
12:27I don't know if it was the actual little boy
12:31that was killed on the property.
12:42I know that there are lost souls.
12:44I fully believe that.
12:46I believe that ghosts could communicate in their own way.
12:51I did not believe that they could physically harm you.
13:07Ah!
13:09Ah!
13:11Ah!
13:13Ah!
13:15Ah!
13:20Nick!
13:22Nick!
13:24Yeah, what? What happened?
13:26Wait, look!
13:28Oh, man, what?
13:30It burns, baby, it burns!
13:32What do you want me to do?
13:34I want you to make it stop!
13:36Okay, how do you want me to make it stop, okay?
13:38I don't know what to do right now.
13:40To see your, your skin open up when there's no explanation for it,
13:44it's like a liquid fire poured in there.
13:47Are you okay?
13:49I had to convince myself it was real over and over and over again,
13:53even though I saw it with my own eyes.
13:58Stephanie and Nick are too afraid
14:00of how people will react to share their experiences.
14:04We had nothing to compare it to,
14:07and nobody to talk about it with,
14:09because who is there to talk to you about something like that
14:12without sounding like you're crazy?
14:14All they can do is try to resume a normal life.
14:19Hey. Hey.
14:21How you doing?
14:23Okay. Yeah.
14:25Does it hurt? Uh, yeah.
14:27I told you it would. He's good, though.
14:29He's really good.
14:31I hope that's not the result of Nick's last attempt at a free tattoo.
14:34No, it's, uh, I just, I fell.
14:38Ah!
14:41What the hell just happened to you?
14:44Oh. Oh.
14:47Right in front of him, just, my leg just opened up.
14:50We got to get out of here. No, don't leave.
14:53Don't, don't go.
14:55She was being tortured.
14:58Tortured in a way that I've never thought was possible.
15:03I felt totally powerless.
15:07And I begged,
15:09Why are you doing this to her?
15:21November 2009.
15:23What the hell just happened to you?
15:25Stephanie Winter comes under attack from a supernatural force.
15:29We felt alone.
15:31Nick feels powerless to protect his wife.
15:34Why are you doing this to her?
15:37Could Peter, Stephanie's lovestruck admirer,
15:40have placed a dark spell on her?
15:43Or are the attacks in some way related to the violence
15:46and twisted souls of men who died too young
15:49in the civil war battles that rage nearby?
15:52A medium has offered a third possibility.
15:55That the spirit of a father who killed his wife and child here
15:59could be looking for his next victim.
16:03A week went by, then she got scratched again.
16:06And then another week went by and she got scratched again.
16:12And it happened like that maybe half a dozen times.
16:17How do you explain those scratches to somebody?
16:20And especially if you get hold of somebody who doesn't believe in the paranormal.
16:24My husband would have been locked up.
16:26I'd have been in a loony bin somewhere.
16:29And then what do you do?
16:33I don't know.
16:39Finally, the couple reluctantly decides to seek help from a paranormal investigator.
16:45Retired detective, Rick Etcherstein, specializes in violent hauntings.
16:51The nature of Stephanie's scratches catches his attention.
16:55He's seen this before in his research photos.
16:58What was most interesting to me was that each wound appeared to be in a set of three scratches.
17:04Three linear scratches side by side.
17:07The three scratch marks is indicative of a negative entity haunting.
17:14Three scratches are very commonplace with the demonic.
17:17And the reason that is is because the symbol of three is a direct mockery of the trinity.
17:23Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
17:25When you're looking at a negative entity, usually it has to be invited or summoned somehow.
17:32I started taking into account the possibility that something happened to invite or to cause this phenomenon to occur to her.
17:39Is there anyone in your life that is involved in occult practices or someone who might mean you harm?
17:47There is this guy, Peter.
17:52And he just started becoming very stalkish with me.
18:02And mentioned something about a love spell.
18:18It's possible that he could have put a curse on her.
18:24I wasn't expecting to hear that.
18:27Stephanie is now convinced Peter may have unleashed some dark force to torment her.
18:34Everything kind of fell into place.
18:36Everything made a little bit more sense.
18:38Okay, this is what's going on.
18:41This is why it's doing it.
18:43This is why it has so much power.
18:48Rick agrees to conduct a paranormal investigation the following week.
18:54Until then, the evil presence could attack at any time.
19:17Get out of my house.
19:24Get out of my house!
19:28Get out!
19:30I was very angry and very confrontational and I wanted it out.
19:35No more!
19:37You hear me?
19:39No more!
19:41Get out of my house!
19:43This thing was such a coward.
19:45And it was just attacking in the middle of the night.
19:48And just out of nowhere.
19:50And when your back is turned.
19:52And that's what made me so angry.
19:55Where are you?
19:57Leave me alone!
19:59I begged my wife to move out of the house.
20:01Because I felt like the house was evil.
20:07I just wanted away from it.
20:10But then after talking with Rick, he said, well, you know, it might not work.
20:16In cases this severe, sometimes the entity will follow you no matter where you go.
20:28Rick and a colleague set up electronic surveillance equipment to monitor every room in the house.
20:34Hoping to capture video evidence of something supernatural.
20:40During this first phase of the investigation, I tried to document what was going on.
20:45Tried to experience something that would lead me to believe that what she was telling me was true.
20:57Unfortunately, I was unable to document or see or experience anything.
21:01But I was still of the opinion that something was happening.
21:04I just felt in my heart that something was going on.
21:11It would stay hidden when Rick was out.
21:13But as soon as he left, I would get scratched.
21:17I became afraid to leave my wife alone.
21:20Because at that point, it became an every other day thing almost.
21:24Or at least a couple of times a week.
21:27You doing okay, baby?
21:30You want something to eat?
21:32I'm not hungry.
21:33It was playing mind games with her.
21:38Because I could definitely tell that her spirit was being crushed.
21:42I think that it was trying to influence her into giving up.
21:46You haven't been out of the house a day.
21:47I don't...
21:52I don't want anyone to see me like this.
21:54I don't want anyone to see me like this.
21:57Can you understand that?
21:59I didn't want to go out in public because I was covered in bandages all the time.
22:02I was so depressed.
22:04I didn't want to be around anybody.
22:06I didn't want to see anybody whose life was normal.
22:09Because my life was so far out of whack.
22:20I could feel somebody on top of me.
22:25I felt hands around my throat.
22:34Steph?
22:35Steph?
22:36Steph?
22:42I thought my wife was dying.
22:48Let her go!
22:49You want to hurt somebody, you hurt me, but you let her go!
22:54You want to hurt somebody, you hurt me, but you let her go!
22:59Stephanie Winter suspects a former friend who developed an obsession with her...
23:03You don't want to say no to me.
23:05...has cast a dark spell...
23:09...unleashing a demonic spirit to extract his revenge.
23:13Something unseen is now trying to kill her.
23:17I could hear Nick talking to me. I could hear him calling me.
23:21Steph?
23:22And I remember the only thing I could move was my left pinky.
23:26Let her go!
23:27You want to hurt somebody, you hurt me, but you let her go!
23:30I was so mad about it. I was threatening it.
23:33Come and get me. Come get me.
23:35Why are you going to pick on her?
23:37Steph?
23:46All of a sudden, she just grabbed a breath of air and she sat up.
23:53We must have sat there like that for quite a while.
24:00It was very easily capable of killing me.
24:04They tell paranormal investigator Rick Attrestine about the violent attack.
24:10Being that it was spiritual in nature, logic would dictate that the solution is probably spiritual in nature.
24:15So I contacted a demonologist and asked their opinionist what we could do to stem this activity, to quell these attacks.
24:22The demonologist gives Rick instructions for a sealing ritual.
24:27He suggested I get some blessed candles, 100% beeswax candles.
24:32And the incense. And the incense is already lit.
24:35And some pontifical incense and some holy water.
24:39Have the candles and the pontifical incense blessed by a priest.
24:43And then burn those, the candles and the incense.
24:46Incense has been used in religious rituals since the time of the pharaohs.
24:51To Roman Catholics, it symbolizes the prayers of the faithful rising to heaven.
24:56Through the world.
24:58And then you'll also recite the prayer I gave you.
25:01This will seal the house with positive energy and keep you safe.
25:06That gave me a little bit of hope because there was positive forces that were now involved that we had hope of running this thing out.
25:16Listen to the words you're saying. Listen to the meaning behind them.
25:19And in every room, you need to do the same thing.
25:22Let's move through there and you can recite that prayer as we walk.
25:26All right, let's move on.
25:28Saint Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle.
25:32We would do that every single night and it really did seem to work.
25:35Against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
25:41After a couple of months of it just being quiet, I'd gotten used to it and I was relieved.
25:48You know, you try and put your life back together a little bit and kind of reflect like, wow, I didn't really go through that.
25:59Stephanie gets used to a new nightly routine, convinced she is now safe again.
26:04It's March 2011, a year since Stephanie started performing the sealing ritual.
26:11And snares of the devil.
26:13Oh, prince of the heavenly host.
26:17In the name of God, cast Satan and his evil spirits into hell.
26:25Who roam the earth seeking the destruction of souls.
26:31Nick!
26:33Nick!
26:34There's a guy outside!
26:36What?
26:37There's a guy outside!
26:38Stay here!
26:39Be careful!
27:01Nick!
27:26There's nobody out there.
27:27Who do you think it was, babe?
27:29I don't know, but I don't think he's stupid enough to come back here.
27:32We were standing at the front window kind of watching to see if we could see anything, anybody kind of hanging around.
27:46This thing grabbed the back of my head and just yanked me down.
27:51Did you hurt your neck?
27:53You okay?
27:54Don't move, don't move, don't move, just relax.
27:56That was absolutely devastating, because I thought it was over with.
28:03Nicholas called me, he was very frantic.
28:05He said that the attacks had resumed.
28:11In April 2011, paranormal investigator Rick Atrestein begins a 48-hour investigation,
28:19hoping to gather evidence to justify a formal Catholic exorcism.
28:23In order to get the Catholic Church involved, it takes a great deal of evidence and a great deal of documentation.
28:29Stephanie.
28:30What?
28:31There's something I need to ask you.
28:34What?
28:36Maybe you shouldn't use the sealing ritual while we're here.
28:43You want to use me as bait?
28:48If you're not comfortable with it, I'm certainly not going to try to convince you.
28:53No.
28:56No.
28:58Let's do this.
28:59I was pretty much willing to do whatever I had to do to get some kind of evidence.
29:09Rick and a member of his investigation team will stay up all night monitoring camera feeds.
29:15On night one, there's disappointment as nothing happens.
29:19They return to their posts for night two.
29:29She's having a tough time again, sleeping.
29:32Yeah, she is.
29:50Hey.
29:52Oh, my God.
30:03In Manassas, Virginia, Stephanie Winter is being tortured and tormented by a demonic entity.
30:10It may have been unleashed through a spell cast by a spurned former friend who became obsessed with her.
30:20Paranormal investigator Rick Etchristine believes an exorcism by the Catholic Church may be necessary.
30:26But first, he needs to capture proof of the evil presence.
30:44Hey.
30:46Oh, my God.
30:49Yeah, I've got it.
30:50I've got it.
30:57Are you okay?
30:58The wound to her arm was so severe that in the kitchen itself, where she was standing, there was a pool of blood.
31:03There was also some minor blood spatter on the wall adjacent to where she was standing,
31:09which indicates to me that there was some force applied to that particular scratch.
31:13But the evidence is not strong enough to take to the Catholic Church.
31:18The video evidence was significant but not conclusive as far as I'm concerned because she was in and out of the kitchen.
31:26If I want to take a skeptical stance, she could have done it in another room, come in and pretended that she got scratched.
31:34I was kind of mad about that. I was like, man, all right.
31:41The investigation continues.
31:48A few hours later.
32:01Did you see that?
32:02I see it. I've got it.
32:05She needs me.
32:06Go, go, go.
32:08Oh.
32:14I actually saw the welts form in three scratches, linear scratches side by side, and I saw them start to bleed.
32:22At that point in time, I knew that she did not scratch herself, that they were fresh.
32:29We got it.
32:32We got it.
32:34That piece of evidence was more significant than the original scratching because of the time period that she was under constant surveillance.
32:45We felt so good. It was like, thank God, Rick finally saw this. He saw it with his eyes and he's got it on camera.
32:55I knew that I had something of a negative nature.
33:04Rick contacts David Considine, a lay religious demonologist in Connecticut, whose work is officially sanctioned by the Catholic Church.
33:14Any time that we're having outward manifestations where we're getting scratching and or someone's being punched or something of that nature, it's always reason for concern.
33:23We do have exorcists that work with us. What we had planned was for a mass to be initiated in her name.
33:32He suspected that she might be under demonic oppression.
33:36Demonic oppression is when a person starts to come under control of the entity. It's just a step away from becoming fully possessed.
33:46If that were in fact the case, she should show some type of adverse effect from this, even at that distance.
33:52This was not revealed to Stephanie, nor was it revealed to Nicholas.
33:56The day of the mass arrives.
34:02As a priest in Chicago prepares, 700 miles away in Manassas, Virginia, Rick arrives at Stephanie's.
34:20Hey, I didn't expect to see you today.
34:23I know, I left my notebook in here. Do you mind if I come in a minute?
34:26No, no, of course not. Come on in.
34:27The priest begins the mass for Stephanie.
34:35Did your friend review the evidence at all?
34:38Yes, he did. He's reviewing it right now.
34:40Perpetua mentis et corporis sanitate gaudere.
34:45Gloriosa leata Mariae.
34:52As we forgive those who trespass against us, for the blood of Christ.
34:59Sit down here. Lean back.
35:02Depart, Satan.
35:04I felt fine one second, and then it felt like somebody set a bomb off in my head.
35:09The God of Peace will soon crush Satan on your feet.
35:20For more than two years, Stephanie Winter has been tormented by a negative entity at her home in Manassas, Virginia.
35:28A haunting that may owe its origins to a dark spell unleashed by a former friend in revenge for Stephanie rejecting his attempts to win her heart.
35:38In the spring of 2011, a priest 700 miles away performs a mass in her name, hoping the demon will make its presence known.
35:49I did not reveal this information to Stephanie. She did not know anything about it.
35:53Gloriosa leata Mariae.
35:57Liberare tristitia.
36:01Poesumus Domini Deus.
36:06Liberare tristitia.
36:09Oh my God, I'm so dizzy.
36:11Per Christum Dominum Nostrum. Amen.
36:15She had a severe migraine headache.
36:18My head, I don't feel good.
36:19That was a diagnostic indicator that this was probably legitimate demonic oppression.
36:27Stephanie is in imminent danger of becoming fully possessed by this evil spirit.
36:34Rick contacts religious demonologist David Considine, who arranged the diagnostic mass with the priest in Chicago.
36:42No, no, she's sick. She needs our help.
36:46We felt that it was something that could be handled by the minor form of exorcism.
36:52There's not enough time for the church to sanction a full exorcism.
36:57Instead, paranormal investigator Rick Atrestein will try to drive out the demon.
37:04Rick was instructed to purge himself, to clean himself, as it were, on a spiritual level.
37:08It is intense, and I fear for Stephanie.
37:13I absolve you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
37:17So that way he could be stronger for Stephanie and for himself,
37:21and to lessen the possibility that he could come under possession.
37:27I knew the clash was imminent. I knew the clash was coming.
37:33Something was going to happen.
37:36Something was going to happen.
37:41Rick is finally ready to take on a demon.
37:50Are you okay? Are you ready for this?
37:54Yeah.
37:56There's power in God and His Word.
37:59I'm going to read the entire ritual.
38:01Whatever happens, I want you to keep reading along with me.
38:05Most Glorious Prince of the Heavenly Armies.
38:10Most Glorious Prince of the Heavenly Armies.
38:13Saint Michael the Archangel.
38:16Saint Michael the Archangel.
38:19Defend us in our battle.
38:21Defend us in our battle.
38:23Against principalities and powers.
38:26Against principalities and powers.
38:28Against the rulers of this world of darkness.
38:32Against the rulers of this world of darkness.
38:35Against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.
38:39Against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.
38:43From the snares of the devil, deliver us, O Lord.
38:47From the snares of the devil, deliver us, O Lord.
38:50From the snares of the devil, deliver us, O Lord.
38:53From the snares of the devil, deliver us, O Lord.
38:55From the snares of the devil, deliver us, O Lord.
38:58From the snares of the devil, deliver us, O Lord.
39:01God arises.
39:03God arises.
39:05His enemies are scattered.
39:07His enemies are scattered.
39:09As smoke is driven away.
39:11As smoke is driven away.
39:13So they are driven.
39:15So they are driven.
39:17As wax melts before the flame.
39:19As wax melts before the flame.
39:21So the wicked perish at the presence of God.
39:23So the wicked perish at the presence of God.
39:27Most precious heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
39:31Place your hands there.
39:33Most precious heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
39:35Most precious heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
39:38Most precious heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
39:49I think it's over.
39:51Yes, yes, I think it's over.
39:54I think it's over.
39:58For now, it appears that the house belongs only to the living.
40:04It's been about two years since anything's happened, thankfully.
40:08And slowly, Nicholas and I have gotten our lives back on track
40:13and are able to kind of loosen up and laugh.
40:16It's funny how much you miss laughing
40:18when you don't do it for a couple of years.
40:24I've been able to see things that give me confirmation
40:31that there is demons or a devil and that there's a God.
40:37The couple continues to wonder what caused the haunting
40:41and if it is gone for good.
40:43Did Stephanie's lovestruck former friend cast a spell and conjure a demon?
40:49Rick did bring that up to me, that Peter could have done that.
40:53He could very well have brought this thing to me.
40:57More than anything,
40:59Stephanie wonders about the ghost of a boy that appeared to her.
41:03I don't know if it was this demon that was in my house
41:08trying to gain my trust
41:11or if it was the actual little boy asking for help,
41:15but I've never seen him again.
41:19I'm still on edge because I don't know if it's completely gone
41:23or if it's just dormant again.