Our Stories - IHOPKC Deception in the Leadership - With Jed Hartley - Episode 190 Branham Podcast
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Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:
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This episode focuses on a discussion between John Collins and Jed Hartley, exploring the deeper connections between various fringe religious movements, particularly the International House of Prayer Kansas City (IHOP-KC) and the broader New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Jed Hartley, a former IHOP-KC member, shares his personal insights into the problematic histories behind the leadership of these movements. The conversation reveals patterns of abuse, manipulation, and exploitation that have shaped the operations of these religious groups, often stemming from the same roots as the Latter Rain movement. Both speakers highlight how these leaders repackage old heresies, like the Latter Rain, under new names to manipulate followers while concealing the darker aspects of their pasts.
John Collins and Jed Hartley analyze how the figures within these movements, including prominent leaders like Bob Jones, Mike Bickle, and others, operate under the guise of prophetic authority. They describe how these figures have often engaged in fraudulent activities, using vague prophecies, selective testimonies, and outright deceit to exploit their followers. They also dive into how this system enables these leaders to protect each other from accountability, perpetuating an ongoing cycle of abuse and deception. The discussion illustrates the broader impact on followers, many of whom are left disillusioned as they grapple with the false promises and manipulative practices within these communities.
00:00 Introduction
05:07 The Origins of IHOP-KC and Connections to the Latter Rain
10:27 Manipulation Through Prophecy and Testimonies
15:46 Bob Jones and Prophetic Manipulations
21:00 Jed's Father's Role in the Prophetic Community
29:03 The Broader Network of Prophetic Leaders
36:02 Paul Cain's Influence and Tactics
42:07 Gaslighting in the Leadership and Community
48:04 The Consequences of Ignoring Accountability
52:21 The Repackaging of the Latter Rain Movement
56:31 Conclusion and Encouragement to Ex-Community Members
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Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts:
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Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:
Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962
Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K
This episode focuses on a discussion between John Collins and Jed Hartley, exploring the deeper connections between various fringe religious movements, particularly the International House of Prayer Kansas City (IHOP-KC) and the broader New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Jed Hartley, a former IHOP-KC member, shares his personal insights into the problematic histories behind the leadership of these movements. The conversation reveals patterns of abuse, manipulation, and exploitation that have shaped the operations of these religious groups, often stemming from the same roots as the Latter Rain movement. Both speakers highlight how these leaders repackage old heresies, like the Latter Rain, under new names to manipulate followers while concealing the darker aspects of their pasts.
John Collins and Jed Hartley analyze how the figures within these movements, including prominent leaders like Bob Jones, Mike Bickle, and others, operate under the guise of prophetic authority. They describe how these figures have often engaged in fraudulent activities, using vague prophecies, selective testimonies, and outright deceit to exploit their followers. They also dive into how this system enables these leaders to protect each other from accountability, perpetuating an ongoing cycle of abuse and deception. The discussion illustrates the broader impact on followers, many of whom are left disillusioned as they grapple with the false promises and manipulative practices within these communities.
00:00 Introduction
05:07 The Origins of IHOP-KC and Connections to the Latter Rain
10:27 Manipulation Through Prophecy and Testimonies
15:46 Bob Jones and Prophetic Manipulations
21:00 Jed's Father's Role in the Prophetic Community
29:03 The Broader Network of Prophetic Leaders
36:02 Paul Cain's Influence and Tactics
42:07 Gaslighting in the Leadership and Community
48:04 The Consequences of Ignoring Accountability
52:21 The Repackaging of the Latter Rain Movement
56:31 Conclusion and Encouragement to Ex-Community Members
______________________
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